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The Volum what is going on everybody? How are we doing? John Middlecoft three Out Podcast well, you're having a beautiful Friday and have a good weekend. Wanted to do a podcast. We got a lot going on. Shador Sanders screaming down the road getting a ticket. Everyone freaking out. Seem to relax a little bit. Rogers once said it R E L a X I will dive into that situation. Is the next commissioner of the NFL running the PGA Tour and the Lakers sell for $10 billion. So some some thoughts overall on just sports valuations and why I think we overcomplicate some things when it comes to winning and losing. Fugazi. Fugazi. Friday I watched a documentary on Netflix that just made me shake my head. So we'll dive into that. I was going to do a mailbag, but somehow your boy has like a wicked like head cold and I don't know, sinus infection or something. But my voice I don't think is really working. So I will save that for next week. I'll record. I'll do something on Sunday for Monday for sure. So no mail back today. It was kind of keep a shorter pod, but other than that, you guys know the drill. If you listen on Collins feed, make sure you subscribe to Three. Now we got a bunch of videos on YouTube, obviously the Schneider interview. So go check that out. But before we dive into football, you know I gotta tell you about my friends, my partners in the official ticketing app of this podcast, Game Time. Best in the business. Do you want to go to an event? I was actually with someone the other day that said his wife wanted to go see the Backstreet Boys at the Sphere and they're going this summer. I'm like, I didn't even know the Backstreet Boys the Sphere. But hell, I mean that probably be a decent time. They got some bangers. So if you want to go to any event, if you want football games this fall, obviously, comedy shows, concerts all summer long, baseball, I mean, there's nothing better. Summer day. Go to a baseball game, especially a major league baseball game. 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He spent more cash over the last, I think, four or five years than any team in the NFL. It's not like he lacks money. I think he's one of the richer guys in the league. But he's proven over and over that he gets in the way of progress. And anytime you're the boss, whether it's you're the dad in a home, whether you're the boss of a mom and pop shop, whether you're someone like Jimmy Haslam and you. You own an NFL team, you can do whatever you want. And at any moment, when the GM and the coach go, we just drafted Dylan Gabriel in the third round, he goes, I want you to draft him in the fifth round. So it's just. It's a bizarre place. It really is. So I don't think it's going to work because most things don't work in Cleveland when Jimmy Haslam has been in control. But when it comes to the situation of getting pulled over doing 100 miles an hour, I saw Coward go on like, I'm out, right? Judgment's a huge thing when it comes to quarterbacks. Coward, I'm going to see him next week. That his big deal was always, you know, the backward hat thing. And, you know, a lot of younger people always laughed at that. I was in Tahoe a month ago, and I was playing golf with this guy who owns a construction company. Really high level, impressive, successful guy. And when I told him that, you know, I work with Colin and do the volume and everything, the first thing that came up was the backwards hat thing and how he loved that take. And this was a guy probably 55 plus, and that's something that resonates with older people. Well, doing a hundred miles an hour when I was a kid, and I was born in 84, so I got my license late 90s, maybe 2000 or 99. If I would have got pulled over doing 100 miles an hour, my dad would have beat the shit out of me. That was the day and age when, you know, you could lay hands to children. I don't think that's quite allowed anymore, but I grew up on cars like most people my age and definitely older, that when you hit about 80 miles an hour, the entire car rattled, unless you had, like, Corvette or Ferrari or something. If you're driving a Ford Bronco, a Suburban, a van, you get to 80, you felt it. So when you told someone, when I was a kid, you were doing a hundred miles an hour, that would have been like telling someone you knew someone with a million dollars cash. It was like, damn, that's incredibly fast. And I told the story when I went to Reno and I rented that Tesla and I drove the thing around and I've been telling everyone since, I can't get over how fast the fucking car is that if I own that car and I had a 16 year old, there is no chance I would let him drive that car. He would kill himself. Because I know at 16, when I drove a Ford Explorer, that I would say, once you went above 70, the whole thing shook, rattled and rolled. And you're like, is this thing gonna blow up when I'm on the middle, when I'm in the middle of the freeway? And I think most people listening to this, if you're of a certain age, you couldn't dream of going 100 miles an hour in 90% of the cars. Now, basically any new car, I'm not even talking Tesla's, I'm talking Ford trucks. My mom has like an SUV Lexus that's probably four or five years old. I drove that thing to Tahoe a couple years ago and I remember going 90 miles an hour thinking, God, this is really smooth. You don't even realize how fast you are going. And that number resonates with older people, went a hundred miles an hour. Now speed isn't relative, right? 100 miles an hour in 2025 is the same speed as it was in 1940. The difference is the ability to get to those speeds in all these new cars. Like, I'm going to give him a little bit of benefit of the doubt now. If you want to be critical, I'd be a hypocrite. Like young people go out, stay up late at night, fun shit happens. Then. I mean, I would be a raging hypocrite if I like, why aren't you in bed at 12:30 at night? Like at 22, 23, 24 years old, I was up a lot of the time too, and I didn't have a lot of money. If you gave me a lot of money and a lot of free time, I didn't have a job, nothing to do for the summer. I would be out rocking and rolling too. But I think people being critical of the speed, it's easy to be because that number still resonates with a certain demo. I just think anyone with a newer car can relate. Like it's Pretty easy to hit that speed now and not realize it. How often when you get a new car or if you drive a new car because you're renting that car and you're with your wife, you're with your friend, they go, man, you need to slow down. And you look you like. I didn't even realize I was going that fast. So I think a lot of people are going to have takes like, this is crazy. This is a reflection. I think a lot of people in souped up cars. And listen, there is a line, you know, Henry Ruggs just gave a speech at some prison thing that he killed someone doing 150 miles an hour. And I'm pro, you know, people having their ability to do what they want, buy a car. I'm as pro gun as any young person in media, I'll promise you that. But there are certain things that you should be trained for. I'm a big believer in that. And there are certain cars that I'm sorry, a 25 year old, a 60 year old, I don't give a shit how old you are. You should have to take some training to get behind the wheel of that bad boy has too much power. If you're not Dale Earnhardt Jr. If you're not Lewis Hamilton, like, you shouldn't be able to drive this thing. But like he's driving a supercharged Ram truck. A lot of people have those trucks. They haul ass and a lot of cars now haul ass. And getting to 100 miles an hour is pretty easy to do. So when I see him say, like, I didn't even realize I was going that fast, I actually think it's pretty believable. I do that shit all the time now. Do I think this is a reflection of his decision making? I don't. Do I think he's going to be a good quarterback for the Browns? I don't because most people are not. It took Joe Flacco having a little short run. They ran Baker Mayfield out of town. Now he's top 10 quarterback after they drafted him number one overall. So I would just bet against the Brown situation. But I think everyone overblowing 100 miles an hour like that was way crazier when I was young. I don't think 100 miles an hour, given these cars that are on the road right now, I think you especially younger people, be surprised how often people go way faster than they even realize they're going. There was a moment that happened this week with the PGA Tour that I think has big implications to the NFL. I'D never heard of this guy. Now, I'm not super locked into who Roger Goodell's team is, right? Like, you could ask me, who are the coordinators for basically every team in the league. I couldn't get all the special teams coaches, but I get the OCs and DCs probably of 90% of the league. And hell, I could give a lot of, like, position, position coaches. When it came to, like, who are Roger Gazelle's top three henchmen? I have no clue. Well, it turns out Brian Rolapp was a very, very important guy for, for Roger Goodell in the NFL. And he was just hired to be the CEO of the PGA Tour and before it was called the commissioner, but for tax purposes, they had a change because of this live thing and a lot, a lot of different variables that I don't even understand. I honestly don't even care. But he's officially been named the CEO. And when you go to Brian Roll Apps LinkedIn page, do you know what you see? You see a very, very ambitious person. And do you know what ambitious people do? They try to climb that ladder. And when they feel stuck on that ladder, they will do anything in their power to get to that next rung. And Roger Goodell's 66 years old. And it came out, I think, over the course of the Tush push owners meetings that, like, some people internally are like, rogue. We need you to kind of have an answer to when you're going to retire. And kind of the pushback was like, I don't plan on going anywhere. Don't totally blame him making $65 million a year. He probably has a position that, I don't know. It's definitely like a top 10 CEO, commissioner, whatever. You know, that role. Someone that doesn't actually own the thing in American business. I mean, the guy's a member at Augusta National. I mean, it's kind of a big deal with his position. And I wonder if you're Brian Rolap and you want that job. And for the last, I think, decade plus, he has been in charge of the media business rights, and he was a key guy in negotiating the last television deal that obviously has given historic returns and he would have been the guy to negotiate this next television deal. And who knows, maybe he's back in the mix in 2029 when it's time to negotiate that deal. Because Brian Rolap knows this. If you want to get a girl to like, you bring another girl around. She'll show more interest, I promise. If you want A raise, have another company offer you a job and you'll find out how much the company you work with likes you and if they do, how much they're willing to pay for your services. So, Brian Rolap, by all accounts, and I've listened to some golf podcasts on this, A lot of people in the golf world in that kind of the main crew of the Tiger woods and the Jay Monahan's, I don't even count him. But you know, Arthur Blank and some of these other venture capitalists, they didn't even know if he was going to accept their job. So this was like a long full court press to try to land this individual to run the business operations for golf. And if he proves. Because listen, when I've been lucky enough to know a lot of these coaches and guys that are coordinators and then become head coaches and the one thing they'll say is like, I want to run my own operation. I want to show everyone that I can do it. It's why position coaches take coordinator jobs. Like, wait, you just left being the running back coach or wide receiver coach for Andy Reed to take the coordinator job for the worst team in the NFL. It's like, yeah, I want to be a coordinator. I want to show that I can call plays and if I do a good job, I will become a head coach. And every single time, for the most part, like Ben Johnson last year when he hung up on the Washington Commanders as they were flying, like, that's an outlier situation. Most guys jump at opportunities and they become a head coach immediately when that opportunity or coordinator presents itself. It's no different in the corporate world. And so when you see Brian Rollup take this job, he knows if he can fix golf's problems, not just unify them, but expand their business. And who's he rolling with and rubbing elbows with in that business? A lot of NFL people. Where are probably the majority of NFL owners associated with? They're probably members of country clubs and some of the country clubs they're members at host these events. So he's going to be around them in a different capacity, where he's in charge, where he's no longer walking into the, you know, four seasons in whatever city. It's a meeting behind Roger Goodell. He's not the boss. Tiger woods stands next to him when they're walking into the meeting. So I see this guy, if it goes well, he's going to be the next commissioner of the NFL because he's not a golf guy. He doesn't even Have a registered handicap. He just admitted the other day, I play less than 10 rounds a year. So he's not getting into this because he's some golf junkie. He's getting into this to prove like I'm ready for the bright lights. And here's the thing with the NFL, because I looked the last couple commissioners, you know, There were basically three over the last 70 years. Pete Roselle, Paul Tagliaboo and Roger Goodell. Hard to really put anything in context with Roselle. Back in the 60s, completely different. World radio and newspapers was much bigger than television. But when you go to Tagliabu in the late 80s, he was the lead lawyer for the NFL. And obviously when Roger Goodell was named the commissioner in whatever the mid 2000s, he was one of Tagliaboo's underlinks. They are not hiring from outside. Like when Starbucks needed a new CEO, they hired Chipotle's. That's not happening in the NFL. Too many bodies are buried everywhere and there's too much on the line. They're not going outside the family. This kind of like the mob. So Brian Rolap has been in this world for 20 years. He kind of, in a weird way, obviously the PGA Tour is a lot different than football, but a lot of similar people. The owners are involved, they're involved with country clubs and obviously big money people. So he's involved in media rights deals, gets to be the lead dog on those. And I would expect if all goes well, you're looking at the next commissioner of the NFL. Whenever Roger Goodell decides to hang him up, probably in his early 70s.
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The Lakers, they sold for $10 billion. They actually didn't because the guy that that owns the Dodgers, that is now the majority owner already own 25 28%. So he only he's not paying $10 billion, but he obviously is paying billions of dollars to own more to become the majority shareholder. And listen, I would say two franchises, you could argue three now with the Dodgers are truly like the elite NFL franchises and that would be the Lakers and the Yankees. And I think you could factor in the Dodgers now as well that they are the equivalent of the Dallas Cowboys, the Philadelphia Eagles, the New York giants, San Francisco 49ers, like they are their franchise. I mean, I think Vegas, if Mark Davis decided to sell at this point in time, when you factor in the stadium, when you factor in the area, would go for a lot despite their lack of success. But my point is the Lakers are somewhat of an outlier. I mean, look at the Boston Celtics historic franchise went for $6 billion, which again shitload of money. But the Lakers are worth, you know, 40% more and they are. So I think a lot of conversation in pro sports is like does your owner have enough money? And in baseball that really matters. I was with a buddy yesterday playing golf on Wednesday who scouts in Major League Baseball and it's safe to say that the team he works for doesn't spend as much as some of the big ducks. And it can be frustrating and there are limitations at times, even though his team has had success at different points in time. But it's he's not competing with the Dodgers and the Yankees and the Mets. Right? They're at a huge disadvantage where in football. The Bengals, if they chose to, they can give Burrow, they can give Jamar Chase they can give T. Higgins, and if they want, they give Trey Hendrickson $100 million. They have the money that they're just choosing not to. And we can argue till we're blue in the face whether that's correct or wrong or whatever, but it's not from the lack of cash, like the Oakland A's or the Tampa Bay Rays legitimately don't have the money to pay Shohei Ohtani. Like, they do not. They do not generate that type of revenue. They don't have that type cash reserves. They do not have. They do not have the capability to pay. Where in basketball, the Minnesota Timberwolves or the Phoenix Suns or, you name any team, can max out a guy for $250 million? Every single team. So this notion that the Lakers have been some big disadvantage because the Buss family was much more mom and pop, they just happened to have this glamorous asset. While there's some truth to that, I mean, they lowballed Tyron Lou once upon a time. It hasn't stopped them. They pay as. I think there's like three or four more teams over the last 10 years that have paid more in luxury tax. Like, they have the money. I heard Brian Winhorse say that someone leaked the league's financials to him. I kind of vaguely remember this, but he remembers looking and seeing that the Lakers in a week made more than the Grizzlies did in a year on their television deal. So obviously they get revenue platforms. But I think sometimes we overcomplicate sports because all I hear is, like, look at what the money has done to the Dodgers. Well, yeah, they hired Andrew Friedman, who's widely considered one of the great baseball executives, one of the we've ever seen. Like, how did the Cubs and the Red Sox resurrect their franchises? They hired Theo Epstein. I've seen it with the A's. They had a guy named Billy Beane. Hell, look at the Lakers. When did they become dominant? In the early 80s when they hired a guy named Pat Riley and his general manager was named Jerry West. And then when they got Kobe and Shaq, what did they do? They hired Phil Jackson. Management has always mattered. Now, if you want to argue that management, you know, in any of these sports, especially football and basketball, there is no salary cap. That's when you can separate yourself 100%. So I agree with that. But you are not winning in sports, whether your owner is flush with cash or whether he's not. If you do not have the right people running your teams. Jeffrey Lurie is really, really rich right now in Philadelphia. The Eagles have made a lot of money over the course of the Internet era, but especially the last 15 years. Why do you think they've been to three Super Bowls since 2017? Why do you think they've won two of them? They have an elite general manager many would consider one of the best GMs in the league. Look at the Seattle Seahawks. They just had on John Schneider, their owner who passed away now, and his daughters run it. Paul Allen was as rich as any. He was like Steve Ballmer of the NFL, flush with cash for a long time when he owned the team, they weren't that good. Well, when did they turn around the franchise? When? I don't know. They hired Pete Carroll and John Schneider. I've seen it forever with the Raiders. They could never get it right. And their owner always lacked the funds because a lot like the Buss family, they didn't have anything else. All they have is the team. And while the team does generate them money, they are not flush with cash like they would be with Stan Kroenke or, you know, the Glazer family. Like, they just don't have the same amount of disposable cash to throw around. There are different levels to this. But the Raiders have struggled. Not because Mark Davis has lacked cash, because they've hired poorly. I mean, they hired. The reason that John Spytak and Pete Carroll are there is because Tom Brady and the crew of big money people came in and Mark Davis allows them to have a huge influence. And before, like Antonio Pierce was their head coach last year, of course they sucked. You know, so I think sometimes we factor in money and obviously it matters. And having big great infrastructure and the best training tables and the best, you know, jets when you're flying around. I understand that. But the Oklahoma City Thunder are good because their general manager is elite. So if you want to dominate. And the Lakers wanted to dominate, and obviously the Buss family was over their head because once Dr. Buss died, their kids just aren't that good at their job. Right? Even if their heart's in the right place, even if they love the Lakers, they just don't really know what they're doing. Because knowing what you're doing, I mean, we just talked about Jimmy Haslam. Jimmy Haslam has unlimited money. And it's like he can't figure it out. David Tepper, Same thing, guys. Fucking stock trading genius. And his team is sucked constantly since he got the job. Why he can't figure out how to hire the right people. And when you do figure out how to hire the right people, usually your franchise doesn't mean you're going to dominate, doesn't mean you're going to become a rocket ship, but you're going to be way better than you were. And that's how you win in sports and that's how you up the value of a franchise. Because most franchises aren't. The Lakers, whether they're winning or they're losing. Now we can get into a whole different conspiracy theory on over the last six months, Lucas trade in the middle of the night, Dallas gets their back scratched and gets the number one pick. And then sale happens when no one saw coming. So who knows. But I think sometimes we talk so much money, money, money, money. Let's be real. Hire the right GM and coach and you'll win. Other than that, I do want to get out of here on this Fugazi Friday about I can't really relate to adrenaline junkies. I don't get. I never have like felt like I want to jump out of a plane and go skydiving. Never felt like I want to get into a cage and swim with great white sharks. There are just certain things that I just kind of stay away from. But I get it. Some people get their kind of rocks off doing stuff like that. Even helicopter skiing and just doing crazy stuff. Well, I was watching this documentary on Netflix called the Titanic and it's about that submarine that essentially exploded a couple years ago trying to look at the Titanic. Remember they couldn't find him forever. I get individuals who are a little crazy. Like the guy that ran this project, his name was like Stockton Rush and this guy was actually in it for the wrong reasons. He just, he was in it for selfish ego reasons. Like he wanted to be known as like a legendary human. Like he wanted to be known as like an Elon A Bezos. Like a guy that everyone had to respect and know and build like this billion dollar business. He actually didn't really just do it for the pure nature of going really deep underneath the sea in a, in a submarine that clearly should never have been that deep because it was destined to fail. If you check out the the documentary. But what I do not get is why these super rich people want to go on these excursions. Like my generation missed space. It is hard for me to relate to the guy. Even if everyone sells me that it's going to be really safe. Bezos, Elon, whoever get in that spaceship and go up to space. Like I don't even need to think about it. It's an immediate no, no interest. This the Titanic thing of these rich billionaire guys that a couple of them that got in there and obviously they all died. I don't get the need to do this stuff, especially with technology. Like, can't you just YouTube it? So just watching this thing and listen, I, I've always really respected. I love to swim in pools, really respect the ocean. You know, having gone to a school where a lot of surfers, because we are basically a Cal Poly, it was basically half Northern California, half Southern California. And one thing that binds that Southern California kind of guy is especially if you're from, you know, Newport down to San Diego, it's like a love of surfing. They like being in the water. And I just like. And when you surf, especially up at Cal Poly north, like toward the Bay Area, like, that's one of the great concentrations of great white sharks. And they are legitimately out there. It's like they don't even care. It's like, yeah, if we see one, we see one. I can't even. Like, my heart would be pounding. Obviously. Surfing is just challenging to begin with. It was like, why do you. I feel no need to go out there. Especially like Northern California, the water's fucking freezing. So it's like, water's freezing. These waves are pretty big and they're just 18 foot great white sharks under me. With seals swimming around that are essentially like, you know, they're filet mignon swimming around here. Count me out. I just don't quite understand these adrenaline junkies that need to do this stuff. I can't even begin to relate. And, you know, watching this special, I mean, it was kind of. It was kind of riveting just because how crazy this guy was. But, man, just sad deal. Welcome to Chasing Challenges brought to you by Microsoft. In the NFL, just like in the business world, overcoming obstacles is key to success. Microsoft empowers business decision makers with AI solutions, simplified cloud and data management, and trustworthy, responsible technology to turn challenges into opportunities. In this segment, we explore some of the biggest challenges being faced in the NFL and how they can be overcome. Whatever challenge you're facing, Microsoft empowers you with the expertise to say, bring it on. This week, we're discussing the challenge faced by all the NFL teams. 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Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Episode Title: 3 & Out - Why Shouder Sanders WON'T Work in Cleveland, NFL and PGA Tour Connection, Lakers Sell for $10 Billion
Release Date: June 20, 2025
Host: John Middlecoff
Produced By: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Timestamp: [02:14]
John Middlecoff opens the episode with a warm greeting, emphasizing the dynamic nature of the sports world. He outlines the primary topics for discussion:
Additionally, John touches on broader themes such as sports valuations, management efficacy, and the impact of ownership on team performance.
Timestamp: [02:14 - 09:45]
Discussion Points:
Key Insights:
Notable Quote:
“I do think he's going to be a good quarterback for the Browns? I don't because most people are not.” – John Middlecoff [04:30]
Analysis: John believes that despite Shouder Sanders' potential, the Cleveland Browns' ownership style under Haslam disrupts team cohesion and decision-making, making it an unsuitable environment for Sanders to thrive.
Timestamp: [09:45 - 18:05]
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Notable Quote:
“Brian Rolap knows this. If you want to get a girl to like, you bring another girl around. She'll show more interest, I promise.” – John Middlecoff [12:10]
Analysis: The appointment of Brian Rolapp signifies a strategic intertwining of the NFL and PGA Tour, potentially fostering collaborative growth and innovative media strategies. John's perspective underscores the significance of executive leadership in shaping the future of major sports leagues.
Timestamp: [18:05 - 39:19]
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Notable Quote:
“Hire the right GM and coach and you'll win. Other than that, I do want to get out of here on this Fugazi Friday...” – John Middlecoff [30:50]
Analysis: John emphasizes that financial investment alone doesn't guarantee success. Effective management and strategic decision-making are paramount. The Lakers' elevated valuation is a testament to their successful business and sports strategies, despite the complexities surrounding ownership.
Timestamp: [39:19 - 40:50]
Discussion Points:
Key Insights:
Notable Quote:
“I do not get the need to do this stuff, especially with technology. Like, can't you just YouTube it.” – John Middlecoff [37:00]
Analysis: This segment provides a personal touch to the episode, highlighting John's grounded perspective and his preference for safer, more controlled environments over high-risk activities. It serves as a contrast to the high-stakes discussions of sports management and franchise valuations.
Timestamp: [40:50 - End]
John wraps up the episode by reiterating the importance of strategic leadership in sports franchises and the interconnectedness of different sports leagues through key executive roles. He underscores that while financial prowess is crucial, it is the combination of effective management, strategic decision-making, and leadership that truly drives success and increases franchise valuations.
On Ownership Interference:
“Anytime you're the boss, whether it's you're the dad in a home... it's just a bizarre place.” – John Middlecoff [06:50]
On Modern Driving Speeds:
“I think most people listening to this, if you're of a certain age, you couldn't dream of going 100 miles an hour in 90% of the cars.” – John Middlecoff [07:30]
On Executive Ambition:
“Brian Rolap,... he's going to be the next commissioner of the NFL because he's not a golf guy.” – John Middlecoff [14:45]
In this episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, John Middlecoff provides an in-depth analysis of pivotal issues in the sports world, focusing on the interplay between management decisions, ownership influence, and franchise valuations. Through a blend of personal insights and industry observations, John elucidates the multifaceted nature of sports management and its profound impact on team success and financial growth.
For listeners interested in the nuanced dynamics of sports management and the business side of major sports leagues, this episode offers valuable perspectives and thought-provoking discussions.
Note: This summary excludes all advertisements, promotional segments, and non-content sections to focus solely on the substantive discussions of the podcast episode.