4th and South - Jarvis & Lenny Talk Odell Beckham Jr., Flag Football, First Million & JSN Deal | 4th & South

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Episode: 4th and South – Jarvis & Lenny Talk Odell Beckham Jr., Flag Football, First Million & JSN Deal
Date: March 25, 2026

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Overview

In this episode of "4th and South," Jarvis Landry and Leonard Fournette—both NFL standouts and LSU legends—invite listeners into an energetic, candid conversation about football, money, mentorship, and legacy. The duo covers recent flag football showdowns, offers advice to incoming NFL draftees, breaks down team loyalty and financial lessons, and reminisces about LSU receiver greatness, including Odell Beckham Jr.'s lasting legacy.

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Key Discussion Points

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1. Early Environment, Motivation, and Escaping Tough Upbringings

[04:01 - 14:34]

• Both speakers credit supportive parents and local mentors for keeping them on track despite rough neighborhoods.
  • Fournette: "Everyone in my neighborhood was drug dealers this and that. But they made sure I stayed on the right path." (04:01)
  • Landry: “There’s only so much protection our parents can give us... people at those ages had enough recognition... to see the gift in us and shelter us from some of the things that could have ruined our lives.” (04:06)
• Landry details growing up in a trailer, emphasizing the humbling but motivating beginnings that shaped his drive.
  • “We had a little double-wide trailer in Comedy, Louisiana... if you had a double wide... you were good.” (11:38)
  • “The mentality was different right... we have to make it.” (70:33)

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2. First NFL Money: Spending, Lessons, and Advice to Draftees

[08:21 – 14:34, 21:43 – 25:20]

• Both Landry and Fournette break down what they did with their first big checks:
  • Fournette bought a Maybach and a house for his parents: “My very first purchase for myself, I brought myself a Maybach 2017... I bought my parents a house.” (09:03)
  • Landry paid off his mother’s trailer and gave her a new car.
• Both emphasize the importance of managing finances—learning to say "no" and building a trustworthy team.
  • “No is the biggest thing. And... you don’t owe nobody nothing right? Besides... your parents.” – Fournette (21:43)
  • Landry stresses learning about your own money and not blindly trusting advisors: “The more you know about your finances, the better it’ll be, man.” (23:56)
• Cautionary tales about relatives and acquaintances coming out of the woodwork once money arrives:
  • "The game don’t change, just the players in it... Them women are out there on the prowl, hunting. They hunting, right.” – Fournette (22:33)

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3. Football Talk: Flag Football, Olympics, and Skill Gaps

[27:17 – 34:32]

• Review of the recent flag football game between NFL stars and Team USA:
  • Landry was surprised at the skill of the flag football specialists: “I thought the skill gap would be bigger and more in favor of the NFL guys... I was wrong.” (27:39)
  • “They should at least have a chance to put their name in a hat to compete in the 2028 Olympics.” – Landry (28:56)
• Discussion on rule adjustments and how NFL guys might fare with more practice:
  • “If you give guys in the NFL enough time to study... they’ll beat the dog shit out Team USA.” – Fournette (29:24)
• Playful back-and-forth about whether flag footballers could translate to tackle football, highlighting the unique skill sets each arena requires.

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4. Odell Beckham Jr.'s Legendary Status and LSU Receiver Legacy

[30:28 – 34:32, 53:43 – 61:39]

• OBJ's highlight-reel flag football catch brings back memories:
  • “Same hand, I believe. Off that credit he did in the game, he needs to get picked up.” – Fournette (30:37)
  • Landry: “He’s still playing above the rim in the red zone... if there’s any team that could use that type of support...” (30:55)
• Comparing OBJ and Jarvis Landry’s LSU careers, the significance of their one-handed catch highlight tapes, and how mutual accountability pushed both to greatness.
  • “We did everything together… we held each other accountable.” (59:02)
  • “We literally would go outside... throw the ball over each other's shoulder. Catch it with two hand. Catch it with one hand.” – Landry (61:39)
• Fournette claims, “In my mind I thought you were ten times better than OBJ.” (54:05)

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5. March Madness Bets and Fun Pro Day/Combine Stories

[35:02 – 47:32]

• Fournette gives his March Madness picks—Texas and Arkansas with a possible Cinderella story, and Iowa State because “they have the best three pointer in the world.” (40:28 - 40:31)
• Jarvis Landry’s hilarious and revealing combine story, faking a hamstring pull after a slow 40 time:
  • “He said it was a 4.7…He said, ‘listen, don't run another 40. Grab your hamstring, tell them you can't run, and just try to do the drills.’” (43:54)
  • Michael Irvin: “LSU receivers…they’re out here tough, hamstring hurt. Then he's still catching balls out here with one hand.” (44:28)

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6. NFL Moments, Transition from LSU, and Breaking Down Team Needs

[47:32 – 52:00]

• Discussion on adjusting from SEC speed to the NFL: “I thought the game would be much faster when I got to the NFL... I’m like, this shit is, like, slower than the SEC.” – Landry (47:03)
• Both discuss the significance of football IQ, referencing playing against Luke Kuechly and alongside Tom Brady.
  • “Luke Keuchly... knew every play.” – Fournette (48:35)
  • “Brady knew every coverage... Even when they tried to disguise it in a crazy way.” (49:24)
• Thoughts on new quarterbacks, Shador Sanders, Ty Simpson, and whether drafting competition is wise: “For competition... see how he competes against a guy like that.” – Fournette (51:32)

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7. Receiver Value: The JSN Deal and Modern Offenses

[63:38 – 66:54]

• Applauding JSN’s (Jaxon Smith-Njigba) contract and usage in Seattle; comparing to Landry’s own versatile role.
  • “His versatility is something I love to see.” – Landry (63:48)
  • “It made the game so much simpler. Right? And I can only imagine, you know, as a quarterback, you have all these pieces where you can throw the ball to…” – Fournette (65:55)
• Emphasizing that the best players still have to touch the ball when it matters most.

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8. LSU vs. OSU: Debate Over 'WRU', State Pride, and Talent Pipelines

[66:57 – 71:17]

• Spirited debate on which college and which state produces the best football talent:
  • “OU or LSU? It's LSU all day.” – Landry (67:04)
  • “The top four receivers in the NFL is from Louisiana. Ceedee Lamb, Ja' Marr Chase, Justin Jefferson…” – Landry (71:00)
  • Why Louisiana’s grit, despite being small, forges resilient, successful pros.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “No is the biggest thing... You don’t owe nobody nothing right? Besides... your parents.” – Leonard Fournette (21:43)
• “We did everything together. It was like a real, ‘I’m my brother’s keeper’ type of relationship.” – Jarvis Landry, on OBJ (59:02)
• “I thought the skill gap would be bigger and more in favor of the NFL guys... I was wrong.” – Landry, on flag football (27:39)
• “My first year, I went to the AFC championship, had a little bit of that playoff money at the back end, too.” – Fournette, discussing his rookie NFL year (10:58)
• “Three years. That’s how long it took to say no.” – Fournette, on financial boundaries (23:32)
• “You are always an option... if [the DB's] back is turned, it's open!” – Landry, on passing philosophy (53:16)
• “But the best players got to touch the ball like... first and second down, I'm handing that ball to Leonard Fournette." – Landry (65:47)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [04:01] – Staying on the right path amid neighborhood adversity
• [08:46] – What Fournette and Landry did with their first NFL millions
• [21:43] – Advice to future NFL draftees: Saying "no" and handling the money
• [27:17] – Flag football exhibition: Skills gap, surprises, and Olympic talk
• [30:28] – Odell Beckham Jr.’s legacy, his flag catch, and veteran value
• [35:02] – March Madness picks, “Lenny’s Locks”
• [43:25] – Jarvis Landry’s infamous combine 40-yard dash story
• [47:32] – Transitioning from SEC to NFL speed & IQ
• [53:43] – LSU duo’s chemistry and influence on wide receiver culture
• [63:38] – Celebrating JSN’s new deal and the evolution of receiver roles
• [66:57] – LSU vs. Ohio State WRU debate and state football pride
• [68:45] – Louisiana vs. Florida: Which state produces more football talent

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Wrap-Up

“4th and South” with Jarvis and Lenny blends nostalgia, humor, and hard-earned wisdom. The duo’s chemistry is evident as they needle each other, celebrate each other's journeys, and share unfiltered advice with the next generation. Whether reminiscing about legendary one-handed catches, offering cautionary tales about newfound wealth, or talking shop about football’s evolving landscape, this episode is a treasure trove for athletes and fans alike.

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Everyone in my neighborhood was drug dealers this and that. But they made sure I stayed on the right path.

[Jarvis Landry]

Though we oftentimes try to figure out a way to block it out, right? There's only so much protection our parents can give us, right? I'm thankful that, like, people at those ages had enough recognition at that age, had enough recognition, right? To see the gift in us and shelter us from some of the things that could have ruined our lives. I am sitting with super bowl champion, league leading running back in receptions in 2021. Damn near led the team in receptions.

[Leonard Fournette]

That was close.

[Jarvis Landry]

In 2021, first round draft pick, Leonard Booger. 4 net.

[Leonard Fournette]

Oh, man, this man's a cloud.

[Jarvis Landry]

Listen, man, this is 4th and South. It's amazing to see you. Beautiful, you guys beautiful faces again. We appreciate all of the love, all of the comments, all of the just, you know, banter going back and forth. We really do appreciate it. And like no other, you know, like any other time, we want to invite y' all into our space again. And we're going to start this thing off with something very nice and simple. Something easy, something light. Leonard, keep five. Cut five. Okay, Christian. McCaffrey.

[Leonard Fournette]

Keep.

[Jarvis Landry]

Okay. Saquon Barkley.

[Leonard Fournette]

Keep.

[Jarvis Landry]

Mm. Devon Hn. I don't know. You talking how you was talking. Are you?

[Leonard Fournette]

Okay, so looking at similarities.

[Jarvis Landry]

Okay, cut. Okay, cut, cut, cut.

[Leonard Fournette]

I'm gonna cut.

[Jarvis Landry]

Okay. Derrick Henry.

[Leonard Fournette]

Keep.

[Jarvis Landry]

Okay, okay. Jamar Gibbs. It's getting tough. Yeah. You don't know who coming.

[Leonard Fournette]

I kept four already.

[Jarvis Landry]

You kept three. Three and you don't know who coming. Pause.

[Leonard Fournette]

Okay, okay. This shit is hard.

[Jarvis Landry]

Jamar Gibbs.

[Leonard Fournette]

Jamar Gibbs.

[Jarvis Landry]

Keep or cut?

[Leonard Fournette]

I'mma cut. Ooh, I'm a cut.

[Jarvis Landry]

Bijan Robertson.

[Leonard Fournette]

Hey, easy.

[Jarvis Landry]

Okay, okay. Kenneth Walker.

[Leonard Fournette]

Superboy mvp.

[Jarvis Landry]

It's up to you. You got one more keep left.

[Leonard Fournette]

You know, since he doing it for the bald head fellas, I gotta keep him.

[Jarvis Landry]

Okay, you keeping. You keeping it. So you keeping Derrick Hemi. Jameer Gibbs. Bijan Robinson. Christian McCaffrey.

[Leonard Fournette]

Didn't I cut Jameer.

[Jarvis Landry]

You cut Jameer.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah, I think I kept Christian. I kept Saquon.

[Jarvis Landry]

Kenneth.

[Leonard Fournette]

I kept Kenneth.

[Jarvis Landry]

Derrick Henry.

[Leonard Fournette]

Derrick Henry. Oh, yeah.

[Jarvis Landry]

Okay, what about. How do you feel about Jonathan Taylor making that list if you have to do it all over again?

[Leonard Fournette]

Are these running backs from.

[Jarvis Landry]

No, it's just from now. From now. Guys that's leading the game.

[Leonard Fournette]

Oh, from now.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

Okay. Okay.

[Jarvis Landry]

Bonus round. Bonus round.

[Leonard Fournette]

So I could pick. Start all over.

[Jarvis Landry]

Bonus round. Bonus round.

[Leonard Fournette]

Okay. Okay.

[Jarvis Landry]

So Adrian Peterson or Barry Sanders?

[Leonard Fournette]

Ooh.

[Jarvis Landry]

Now look at me. I mean,

[Leonard Fournette]

you can't compare the two, though. Different running styles.

[Jarvis Landry]

You know, it's up to you, coach.

[Leonard Fournette]

So am I a coach or a GM right now?

[Jarvis Landry]

Both.

[Leonard Fournette]

Okay. I gotta go. Barry.

[Jarvis Landry]

Barry Sanders.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah.

[Jarvis Landry]

I like that pick. I think you picked it, right? There would be, you know, AP is AP without. And I'm sure AP would say this. I don't think there would be an AP without Barry Sanders.

[Leonard Fournette]

You know, two different running styles. But I. I feel. I feel where you coming from.

[Jarvis Landry]

But Barry Sanders was like, yeah, yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

He is the ultimate weapon to have back then.

[Jarvis Landry]

100%. 100%. 100%. Speaking of that. Right. We. We're about to. A lot of kids are about to embark on a journey that's very special. Right? And we talking about the NFL draft. That's right. We talking about the NFL draft. We want to know. I want to know. I'm personally curious. What did you do with your signing bonus? Your first million? What did you do when you. When that. When that money hit your account?

[Leonard Fournette]

Let me go back in time. This is a while ago.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah. I brought first round money. Different.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah.

[Jarvis Landry]

So break it. We want to know. Break it down like so.

[Leonard Fournette]

Like my signage bonus and everything.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah. I want to hear. Okay, so name signing bonus. Where you from? Okay.

[Leonard Fournette]

Leonard Fernet.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

Got drafted by Jacksonville Jaguars. Signing bonus was 20. 20 something million dollars. I'm not gonna give the, you know, the whole thing, but my very first purchase for myself, I brought myself a Maybach 2017. Maybach.

[Jarvis Landry]

Probably one of the first ones.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah, probably. I think I was in New Orleans. I bought my parents a house.

[Jarvis Landry]

Much respect to that.

[Leonard Fournette]

Had to. Had to take care of moms and pals. I brought them. They both got. I brought them both cars. Had to put up after my first time, really writing a will, too. Had to ride a wheel. Yeah, that shit was different. It was scary. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't really feeling it, but, you know, I had to make some wise decisions for the longevity of our family and my, you know, my kids, to make sure they were straight.

[Jarvis Landry]

That's dope.

[Leonard Fournette]

And I mean, that's pretty much it.

[Jarvis Landry]

And so how much you would say

[Leonard Fournette]

that I spent my first year.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah. Net total out of the 20. Maybach was like 700.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah, I had 600.

[Jarvis Landry]

Let me not lie.

[Leonard Fournette]

I brought chains and watches. So I probably. The Maybach wasn't 700. Maybach was like $2 and some change.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. 250.

[Leonard Fournette]

Like 245. Probably about 250. Around that range. I say I probably spent, bro.

[Jarvis Landry]

To be real.

[Leonard Fournette]

600,000.

[Jarvis Landry]

No way.

[Leonard Fournette]

700,000.

[Jarvis Landry]

There's no way you buy a house or Maybach and you only spend $200,000.

[Leonard Fournette]

Listen, that's me being modest, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, the housing. Walking at 17 wasn't that high. Let's be real. Yeah, let's be real. Especially so if I'm. Put a number on it to, like, probably like, 1.2.

[Jarvis Landry]

Okay, 1.2.

[Leonard Fournette]

That's me, like, enjoying myself, having money, you know, first time around on private jets and just enjoying myself, enjoying my. My hard work. You know what I'm saying?

[Jarvis Landry]

Right.

[Leonard Fournette]

First year, went to the AFC championship, too. But, you know, I had a little bit of that playoff money at the

[Jarvis Landry]

back end, too, so. Put it back in. Yeah, you put it back in. You got the Maybach back. I love it. I love it. I mean, again, like, you know, I can't tell you what I did. I did very. Probably the same similar thing with my little first M, you know, got my mom a crib. We was living in a trailer, so I just paid the trailer off. I ain't really give her a crib. I just paid the trailer off. Can you.

[Leonard Fournette]

Can you talk about that, though? No, like, you going, you know, from a. I mean, I've never lived in a trailer though, but going from a trailer to living like a.

[Jarvis Landry]

That shit was dope.

[Leonard Fournette]

A nice home.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah, no, it was dope. The trailer was nice, you know, like it was dope. We had a little double wide trailer in Comedy, Louisiana, and it was dope. I feel like where I'm from, like, if you had a double wide trailer, like, you were good, like, you know. So, yeah, I grew up there and Right on the Mississippi River. No stores, no stoplights, you know, nearest town, Lutcher, you know, Downsonville. So we had to commute to most places and, you know, just to come into my town, had to get, you know, had to get gas before you came into town because there was no gas stations. Right. But, you know, so I was a second round draft pick, so I ain't had that first round money, right. So I was able to pay my mom bills off, pay our car off. I think I got my mama a car, actually. I got my mama a car and I paid her note off on our trailer and then I brought myself a car, got myself a apartment, and yeah, it was work time. I really had.

[Leonard Fournette]

No, I didn't know that you stayed in the trailer, but I think from outside looking in, that's motivational purposes.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah, bro, look, it was again, man, I had. I had the best my mom could do. Yeah, you know, like, it was just one of them. One of them things where, you know, we. I ain't even noticed that, you know, we were living different than anybody else because, you know, that was just the situation in the community that I grew up in, you know. And, you know, now looking back at it, I don't think our kids, right, get a chance to ever really experience it or see it that way. And I thank God for that. But, you know, at the same time, you know, as humbling as it was, you know, I think I can only say that from being in the position that we. I'm in now, you know.

[Leonard Fournette]

Made you who you were.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah, made me who made me. Exactly. So. So, yeah, man, I paid a crib off and. And got to work, dog. Like, literally I was in Miami maybe like a week later, I got drafted to Miami. I was in Miami maybe a week later. Ready to grind. Ready to grind. Put all. Put the rest of the money in the bank. I ain't really do much with it.

[Leonard Fournette]

Would you Say, besides, you know, your mother, you know, being there for you, did you live while you live in a trailer? Did that add more motivation for you to go out there and work your ass off?

[Jarvis Landry]

Man, I was already motivated. I ain't gonna lie, dog. Like, again, you know, I. My mama did the best she could, you know, and. But I had dreams to never. I had dreams, like, beyond the places, the place that I lived, the place that I grew up. You know, I always had, like, these pictures on my wall that were, like, California, you know, Michigan, Arizona, Las Vegas. All these different places. Never knowing how I'm gonna get there.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah.

[Jarvis Landry]

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[Jarvis Landry]

no, I'm going somewhere and you know the work ethic just was one of those things where I understood at a young age that sports, especially football, your way out. It was gonna be the vehicle. It was gonna be the, it was gonna be the vehicle. I was gonna we leaving with something and bro. And then you know, so you know that I just started getting into sports, playing sports, you know, a lot of people in the neighborhood, you know, I remember being in situations in the neighborhood and I'm sure you could attest to this too being a situation in the neighborhood where you hanging out with the kids that you go to school with, grow up with and you Working out, they smoking weed for sure. You know, they drinking, selling drugs. You know, I remember being in like circles in my neighborhood where, you know, everybody's smoking the blunt and it get to me. And they'd be like, nah, bro, you going to the league, like, watch out.

[Leonard Fournette]

Nah, for sure.

[Jarvis Landry]

And they pass it around you. You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, man, no, I want to try. But at the same time, it was like, man, I thank God for like those moments, right? Because you know, again, who knows where I would be if I did hit the block, you know, somebody didn't have the awareness to see me as a young kid running the levee, you know,

[Leonard Fournette]

putting that pain, bro.

[Jarvis Landry]

Putting it in. Every time you saw me, every time you saw me in the street, like, I had a football or a basketball or some type of ball in my hand, running the street, throwing it to myself. People thought I was probably crazy, like low key, like just. Cause I was, I always had a ball in my hand.

[Leonard Fournette]

There's like a quote that people say you owe you. You are who you hang around with, right? And I believe it to a certain point, right? Like everyone in. In my neighborhood was drug dealers, this and that. But they made sure I stayed on the right path, though. Yeah, right? If we go into a party, man, you know, your ass ain't going. That party, man, might shoot it up. They might. You know, you might have certain things going on. So if you have them type of people in your life, right, that. That might save you from certain, I

[Jarvis Landry]

don't know, unforeseen things.

[Leonard Fournette]

Unforeseen things in your life. Listen to them, right? Because who knows? Jarvis wouldn't be Jarvis without them telling you. Nah, you can't. You can't have this. You can't ride in the car with us to this party, you know, Find your way. We gonna make sure you find a way, but find a way. Some people that we know, that's living right. You know what I'm saying? So when you say that, brother, it just hit home for me. Cause I grew up in that, bro.

[Julian Edelman]

Yeah.

[Jarvis Landry]

And it's tough. And I'm sure it was like a lot different from you, right? You grew up in a bigger city. You know, I grew up in a small little pond. Yeah. I grew up in a small community, right, like you grew up in a big city, right? So, like, your exposure to a lot of things probably happened, like even at a younger age, right? Your exposure, you know, probably was to a bunch of different stuff, right? You know what? I'm saying, and like, obviously I know situation with your pops and stuff like that, right? Like, you know, those are things that as athletes, you know, we oftentimes try to figure out a way to block it out, to channel it. Right. There's only so much protection our parents could give us. Right. You know what I mean? And you know, I'm thankful that like people at those ages had enough, at that age had enough recognition, right. To see the gift in us and shelter us from some of the things that could have ruined our lives, ruined our careers 100% before they even got started.

[Leonard Fournette]

100%. And you know, not to switch the subject, but we talking about when we got drafted, we have a couple of young guys in college who's about to get drafted, who's about to see some real money, some life changing money. Not for themselves, but for their family too. I know my biggest advice would them to be the first thing to learn is no, no, listen. It's the hardest thing to tell people that you love. But for you to be financially straight in the long run, no is the biggest thing. And I say that because you don't owe nobody nothing, right? Besides if you want to your parents who took care of you damn near your whole life, but the fake ass cousins coming out the blue or I'm your cousin off your mama's side, I'm

[Jarvis Landry]

your third cousin from your Auntie Titi.

[Leonard Fournette]

Now, I ain't been around as much, but you know I'm here. That's a sign, right? They want something from you. Right. And when I say that, understand this, the game, the game don't change, just the players in it. Yep. Them women are out there on the prowl, hunting. They hunting, right.

[Jarvis Landry]

They know who getting drafted.

[Leonard Fournette]

This is the game that's been going on since before we've been here and before the players of the Himalayas been here. They will google you, hunt you down and find out what's in your bank account.

[Jarvis Landry]

They know that. Signing bonies, huh?

[Leonard Fournette]

Well, they know it. So just like you mentioned, we've been training our life all for the field and football. They have been training themselves to get put in positions to meet you. That's wild. That's a fact though.

[Jarvis Landry]

That's wild. Question for you, how long did it take you to say no? Like how long did it take you in your financial journey or just like in your career to be able to be like, no?

[Leonard Fournette]

I think three years.

[Jarvis Landry]

Three years.

[Leonard Fournette]

Three years.

[Jarvis Landry]

And then when you said no, did that person leave your house?

[Leonard Fournette]

Oh, definitely, like, oh, you a bitch. You this and you that. You know, there's so many stories you hear when they're talking behind your back, right? You're like, damn, I said no one time. And if I get on my ass, you not gonna be able to help me 100%. So I have to save myself before I start drowning and y' all can't help me.

[Jarvis Landry]

I agree. I agree. I think I had similar experiences as well. I think I had a lot of barriers in place, and now I have a better team in place, right? I would say to young guys out there, look, that's gonna get drafted and walk into life changing money, right? Generational wealth, man, get you a great financial team. I made a few dumb decisions with my financial team. I'm just not paying attention. I'm focused on football and letting other people handle my finances. The more you know about your finances, the better it'll be, man. And I think it also, like, helps you in the long run understand how your money can work for you. It helps you understand how to be able to take care of your family, right? Like to be able to put your mom on a payroll, to be able to put your sister on a payroll, your brother on the payroll, right? And all within budget. So I think it's just really having a good team in place, man, and good checks and balances. No money. If no money coming in, no money should be going out.

[Leonard Fournette]

Nah, definitely. You gotta understand this when I say the no part, right? The people who's gonna ask you for that money, they're not waking up 5:30 in the morning with you running sprints.

[Jarvis Landry]

Oh, no.

[Leonard Fournette]

You know what I'm saying?

[Jarvis Landry]

Like, but. But they made you that. They. Boy, you don't remember? I made you that little.

[Leonard Fournette]

They make you feel bad. They do. You know what I'm saying?

[Jarvis Landry]

I'm telling all the young guys worth 300,000. That's crazy.

[Leonard Fournette]

That shit. Bullshit. Don't fall for that. That's clickbait.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

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[Jarvis Landry]

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[Leonard Fournette]

USC versus the NFL stars.

[Jarvis Landry]

Them boys thought it was going to

[Leonard Fournette]

be easy for sure. First of all, Darrell Doucet, my guy from New Orleans, major, major congratulations to you. I know the work he's put in over the years to put flag on the map.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

And man, they put on a real show out there, man.

[Jarvis Landry]

They did. You know what it was, bro? It was like I thought the skill gap would be bigger and more in favor of the NFL guys. I didn't think, you know, some of these guys would be as talented. Obviously, it's a new sport. So for the NFL guys trying to pull a flag, most of these guys are offensive players, influences, you know what I mean? But you definitely saw the athletic ability of all of the flag football guys that like, attended the game. Like it was crazy seeing it.

[Leonard Fournette]

Do you believe they had enough time to adjust their game to that or to, I say, to get used to the rules?

[Jarvis Landry]

The NFL guys? Yes, man. Again, as much as I think it's about the rules, right. I think it's also about, you know, speed out there getting double moved,

[Leonard Fournette]

you

[Jarvis Landry]

know, Logan Paul trying to, you know, you know what I mean? I just feel like, you know, they wasn't covering double moves, triple moves. You got Offensive guys like D Hop, you know, oh, all these guys covering people, that's like running routes, you know, like, that's where I thought. Honestly, I thought the skill gap would show itself, and it didn't. I think those guys, like, proved that they should at least have a chance to put their hat. Their name in a hat to compete in the 2028 Olympics.

[Leonard Fournette]

Do you believe if the NFL guys had the proper time to adjust their game, understand the rules? Cause like, if you seen when those guys from Team USA was getting the ball, bro, they was damn near to their knees.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

You know?

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

So it's like they might have the upper hand in that, but if you give guys, I feel like in the NFL enough time to study and to work on that.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah, they'll beat.

[Leonard Fournette]

They'll beat the dog shot out team. Team usa.

[Jarvis Landry]

Hey, look, there's only one way to find out. We got to run it back next year, man.

[Leonard Fournette]

Let's run it back. And how about this, Mike? Let the guys in Team USA put it on the pads and.

[Jarvis Landry]

Hell, no.

[Leonard Fournette]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yes.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah, because I know who tackling Saquon. Well, listen, listen, though. I say that because I know majority of those guys have football aspirations or make it to the lead or whatever the case may be. Right? Listen to me. Yeah, let's give him a chance.

[Jarvis Landry]

I don't think it would be fair. I think then the skill gap that we were expecting, we're actually gonna see no one is no one again, man. These guys are professional athletes in their own way.

[Leonard Fournette]

Their own way. Yeah.

[Jarvis Landry]

Right. But at the same time, putting on shoulder pads and helmets at that size, all of these boys out there, like, 160, it's okay.

[Leonard Fournette]

155, it's okay. They try to embarrass our guys.

[Jarvis Landry]

Nah. You want that lick back?

[Leonard Fournette]

Yes.

[Jarvis Landry]

That's crazy. But that's that New Orleans for you.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yes, we need our lick back, but can we talk about OBJ Catch fire. Can we talk about that Fire.

[Jarvis Landry]

Same hand, I believe.

[Leonard Fournette]

Same hand, I believe off that credit he did in the game, he needs to get picked up.

[Jarvis Landry]

He should get picked up regardless.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yes, regardless. But, you know, I think that kind of added more fuel to him joining the team. He still has it. He's running, he's catching. You know, if there was.

[Jarvis Landry]

If there is any doubt about, you know, the ability, which. That should never be in question. Right. You know, even at 33 years old, he's still playing above the rim in the red zone. Right. Even if it's a team that could use that type of support, right?

[Leonard Fournette]

That's true.

[Jarvis Landry]

Coming in the red zone, third down, do your thing. We saw him. Obviously, a great example of that is when he first joined the Rams, right? You know, they put him in position on third down. They put the ball in his hands. He made plays. You also talking about if he doesn't go down, he's the MVP of the Super Bowl.

[Leonard Fournette]

For sure he is.

[Jarvis Landry]

You know what I mean? Like, we're not talking about just another guy. You know what I mean? So having him out there, I think it was good. But then also getting the world to see that, you know, he's still obj. He's still them three letters, man, that boy.

[Leonard Fournette]

Man, I was so excited. And especially seeing this is why I feel like we have the best school in the world. Three LSU Tigers out there representing us. We had Joe.

[Jarvis Landry]

I ain't like how they would treat my dog Joe Burrow out there. I ain't gonna lie. My man hit the ground too many times.

[Leonard Fournette]

That's true.

[Jarvis Landry]

Too many times.

[Leonard Fournette]

And he's worth a lot of money. So, you know, I was. I held my breath for a couple of scrambles, you know what I'm saying? But I think we need to have that, too. We need that mic. When you see this, we should have a former college seven on seven.

[Jarvis Landry]

You gonna be a part of it? What's up?

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah, we gonna be a part of it.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah. For sure, man. Now, in your position, I don't know who's gonna start.

[Jarvis Landry]

I just want to play defense. I just want to make the team, coach, pass the water out, whatever it

[Leonard Fournette]

is, you know, I'm good for it. I love seeing that.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

Former Tigers out there competing, having fun. Let's not forget that. And just showing the world, you know, their personalities bigger than you. Seen old Happy's back dancing, doing this thing. You know what I'm saying? So it was very exciting just to see those guys at LSU doing it.

[Jarvis Landry]

I think for me, the thing I want to see. And I don't know enough about flag, so y' all don't come for me, but. But my thing is, like, do you have to play both sides, or could we call in, like, our supporting cast and we get some DBs out there? You know what I mean? Like, I feel like that's a different game, right, If. If we actually have some of our league leading, you know, DBs in there, like, passer tan.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah.

[Jarvis Landry]

You know, some of these guys that's on the field guarding these flag guys opposed to receivers. Like I ain't never seen no damn double move like I'm running double moves like. You know what I'm saying? So of course, you know, you get me a time or two, you know. So I feel like that also is an aspect that this was more of a friendly challenge. But it's also tough to be a professional athlete and play in any game at any level and treat it like a friendly exhibition, you know. No boys out there really competing.

[Leonard Fournette]

Nah, for sure. And I believe in my flag football experience. Cause I was playing last year, I played corner too.

[Jarvis Landry]

Hey boy, you better go sit down.

[Leonard Fournette]

Listen, listen. We play zone though. Cause there's a lot of mesh routes, crossing routes. So instead of you playing man and have to cover the whole way, he come across the field. I got your man, right? My man goes your way. You got him, man.

[Jarvis Landry]

Look, on this team you'll be rushing the quarterback. That's about it.

[Leonard Fournette]

Why you, huh?

[Jarvis Landry]

Why you ain't about to be covering nobody?

[Leonard Fournette]

Why?

[Jarvis Landry]

First of all, you think you fast. But you ain't fast enough to be running with no receivers out here.

[Leonard Fournette]

Why you. Fuck nah. CC people. When people underestimate your skills, you have

[Jarvis Landry]

to prove them wrong.

[Leonard Fournette]

And he's one of the guys right now I'm gonna have to prove wrong.

[Jarvis Landry]

I want to see it. I want to see it, man. Listen. Stay off my quarterback. That's rule number one. Stay off my quarterback. But shout out to the flag football guys. Man, you guys held it down. Thought it was a remarkable event. Roger Goodell was there as well. So you know, 2028. It should be very special. No matter who's who's showing up for Team usa. It's going to be a lot of great candidates. So it is March Madness time.

[Leonard Fournette]

I'm excited.

[Jarvis Landry]

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[Leonard Fournette]

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[Jarvis Landry]

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[Jarvis Landry]

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[Jarvis Landry]

We need to know, man, who you got? It's that time of the year. Time to win some money.

[Leonard Fournette]

You ready?

[Jarvis Landry]

I'm ready. Texas. Purdue. Who you got?

[Leonard Fournette]

Texas.

[Jarvis Landry]

Texas.

[Leonard Fournette]

I'm going with Texas because SEC school, right?

[Jarvis Landry]

Uh huh.

[Leonard Fournette]

LSU is a what?

[Jarvis Landry]

SEC school.

[Leonard Fournette]

I have to rule with the dogs.

[Jarvis Landry]

Man, I love that. I love that pick. Next. Next. Next we have Arkansas versus number one seed Arizona.

[Leonard Fournette]

Well, as you know, March Madness is the Cinderella stories.

[Jarvis Landry]

We have an upset.

[Leonard Fournette]

It's a lot of things that go on in March Madness and I believe it's going to be an upset. Arkansas, let's go. We have Mr. Acuff Jr. Top two pick in my eyes who was playing out of his mind.

[Jarvis Landry]

Oh yeah, he liked that. He's like that for sure. He's like that. Next we got number six, Tennessee versus Iowa State. The Cyclones.

[Leonard Fournette]

Iowa State. They have the best three pointer in the world.

[Jarvis Landry]

Three point. Really?

[Leonard Fournette]

Yes.

[Jarvis Landry]

Okay.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yes.

[Jarvis Landry]

I love to hear it. Well, you know, put 10,000 wins you over 191,000.

[Leonard Fournette]

God damn.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah, it's a lot. It's some money out there to be made. Trust me. I might.

[Leonard Fournette]

Listen, I know you like. You like my betting. Is that a good betting?

[Jarvis Landry]

I could just be a guru. Can I be the betting guru? Am I right?

[Leonard Fournette]

Betting guru? Yes. Yes.

[Jarvis Landry]

Let me see.

[Leonard Fournette]

Is that something Lenny should pick? 10,000 to win. What?

[Jarvis Landry]

191,000.

[Leonard Fournette]

Can I take that bet right now?

[Jarvis Landry]

I think so.

[Leonard Fournette]

Three Laker. Take it.

[Jarvis Landry]

Take it. Why not?

[Leonard Fournette]

That's good. So listen, my 10,000 will be ready. It's ready right now.

[Jarvis Landry]

But.

[Leonard Fournette]

It's ready right now. But I'm putting that in.

[Jarvis Landry]

Put it in.

[Leonard Fournette]

191.

[Jarvis Landry]

Don't forget the 1000 what can we buy with that?

[Leonard Fournette]

Small purchases, though, with the 191.

[Jarvis Landry]

I don't know. I don't know. You know, I know somebody, you know, that could use a little bit, and then you got it. I mean, I love a little. Just a little bit. Half of that. I mean, I am the goofy.

[Leonard Fournette]

But listen, if you guys out there decide to go with my bet, we need half of that

[Jarvis Landry]

fourth and south bank account. I send you a routing number, the wire information, all that lean, these locks,

[Leonard Fournette]

LSU's per day today, right? Man, how was your per day?

[Jarvis Landry]

Mine?

[Leonard Fournette]

I had to come in a little slimmer, you know, show them that I can catch the ball. You know, that's what. I'm 89, you know, 79 catches came from. I lined up out running routes as a wide receiver and as a running back and. Do you have any fun pro day stories?

[Jarvis Landry]

I don't. Listen, my fun pro day story, a funny pro day story, actually happened at the combine.

[Leonard Fournette]

Okay.

[Jarvis Landry]

I remember training for the combine, getting ready for the combine. Next thing you know, I'm there. Obviously, you know, the combine is a grueling process. They waking you up early, you go to sleep late, Then they want you to perform. You know, it's a whole. It's a whole song and dance. But I remember getting ready to run to 40, and I felt loose, felt good. I felt light. You know, I just had. I think I did, like, 13 reps on 225. You know, I'm feeling.

[Leonard Fournette]

You did 13?

[Jarvis Landry]

I think I did like, 13.

[Leonard Fournette]

Okay.

[Jarvis Landry]

Don't get on me, bro. I didn't do 13.

[Leonard Fournette]

Wide receiver.

[Jarvis Landry]

I understand, but, yeah, you know, wide receiver. So I'm like, all right, perfect. Like, you know, so I'm getting ready, but again, I'm thinking about running routes the whole time because I know that's my specialty. But I line up to run the 40. My man's sitting right next to me in a chair. He's like, hey, you can't move your hand until you know this. And I'm like, man, I got it. But now I'm getting nervous.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah.

[Jarvis Landry]

So I run the 40. And mind you, I think I'm flying. I. I thought I was flying, bro. Man, I called my agent. I say, man, what was it that she had to be like a four, four. Four, five at least, man? He said, hey, Juice, pretend like you pulled your hamstring. So I'm like, what? He was like, it was a four seven.

[Leonard Fournette]

He was like, seven, man.

[Jarvis Landry]

He said it was a four seven. I was like, no way. He was like, listen, don't run another 40. I'm telling you right now, don't run another 40. Grab your hamstring, tell them you can't run, and then just try to do the drills. So I get up there next. I had to, like, still, like, do the whole thing. Like, I was about to run, and then I had to say, like, you know, I'm not running my next rep. And then we get in this field position stuff, and I gotta, like, fake like, I pull my hamstrings. So I'm, like, running, like, limping, running.

[Leonard Fournette]

Oscar for this, bruh.

[Jarvis Landry]

Limping, running. Michael Irvin even came up to me. Michael Irvin was like, I love your toughness. Like, man, it's these LSU receivers. They're out here tough, hamstring hurt. Then he's still catching balls out here with one hand, man. And it broke my heart because I'm like, only if this man knew that, like, I'm faking this shit. And plus, I feel like this is the part that I could get the chance to show people, like, bro, I could really run routes. And, like, my speed running routes is different than running the 40. I was nervous. I got, like, some type of complex. I know it for sure. Like, when I get to taking tests, I get nervous for some reason. It's like, I have no idea why I'm nervous, but I just get nervous. So then I come back home to Baton Rouge, the train, and I got a fake. Like, I pulled my hamstring. So I'm doing hamstring recovery stuff.

[Leonard Fournette]

Getting stronger, though, bro.

[Jarvis Landry]

But I'm not getting better at the 40 because I ain't practicing it. So I go through this whole. I think it's like two weeks or three weeks period before your pro day happened, after the combine. So I'm like, man, look, we gotta start running. So as we got closer, like a week and a half, two weeks out, I was like, oh, man, I'm feeling better. My hamstring feeling better. So I started running. True story, man. Ask Mac, man. Mac, he know this story as well. So I'm like, oh, I'm feeling better. Then I go to pro day, run a 4, 5. And. Yeah, and I got a chance to run routes and, you know, do my thing. And Miami took a chance on me. I'm grateful for Miami for that, but.

[Leonard Fournette]

So after you ran, you felt better, though, right?

[Jarvis Landry]

No, after I ran, I was like, well, not. I looked up at the clock and it said 4, 5. I was like, oh, yeah, I don't need to run Again, I'm not running again. I'm just running routes from now, from here on out.

[Leonard Fournette]

4, 5 flat or 451.

[Jarvis Landry]

I. 4 is 4, 5. I don't count the other number. As long as they say 4, 5, whatever. The first two numbers. The. The first, the number before the decimal, and the number after. That's it. That's the only part I see.

[Leonard Fournette]

Who knew you could have. You could have won an Oscar, Bro.

[Jarvis Landry]

Bro. That is still hard to watch, like, as is this. I'm in disbelief that that was a part of, like, my combo stuff.

[Leonard Fournette]

That's crazy. But so now it makes sense, like, on a. You're football fast, though.

[Jarvis Landry]

Oh, yeah. Like, and I got faster when I got to the league. Shiftier and faster.

[Leonard Fournette]

Wait, so you feel like you got faster when you got the lead?

[Jarvis Landry]

100%. You better ax.

[Leonard Fournette]

I mean, I watched you, so I don't have to ask no one, man. I watched my guy when he was punt returning and.

[Jarvis Landry]

But it's also like this. It's also like, when playing in sec, like, you think that, like, I thought the game would be much faster when I got to the NFL. I thought, I'm thinking, like, oh, bro, everybody fast. Like, you know, it's a thing. And then I got to the NFL, I'm like, this shit is, like, slower than the sec, you know what I mean? And in sec, I was doing my thing, so I'm just kind of like, okay, this is it. And I felt like I was. Yeah, I was feeling. Yeah, I felt like I was faster.

[Leonard Fournette]

So I made that comment, right? My first year in Jacksonville, and it's like, oh, he thinks he. I'm like, nah, just. That's my honest opinion. It's like, it's the same.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah. It's. Again, not all players has translated from being an SEC player to going and being a good pro, right? But I think when you play in the sec, you're facing the speed of NFL athletes every week. And in a Big Ten or whatever, you could kind of get away with, you know, playing those teams where they only got one guy in sec. There's dogs at every position. Every position that run fast, jump high, hit hard. Like, so it was going to the NFL, it was like, okay, this is what I'm expecting.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah.

[Jarvis Landry]

And then first day of practice, I'm like, this it.

[Leonard Fournette]

So speaking of NFL, right? And I know I've. I've never had my welcome to NFL moment, right? Nobody never hit me. But my biggest one was playing as Luke Keakley.

[Jarvis Landry]

Really?

[Leonard Fournette]

Why he Knew every play.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah, he was smart. I've heard that, too.

[Leonard Fournette]

Like, say we had a. We got to run power. Like, it's coming right here. It's coming right here. So you know me. I gotta look. I'm looking at the sideline. Like, I'm looking this way and this way. Like, man, look, he trippin'.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

But the whole time, the ball coming up. So for me, that was more of, like, I had the. All right. You playing against a guy like that at a high level, who is smart as hell, who understands the playbook, who understands angles and everything. That was pretty much my only welcome to the NFL moment. Just understanding, like, it don't matter, you know, how fast you are. It don't matter how talented you are. If guys like that work at their craft and really study the game, bro, the sky's the limit. That's why when people always ask me, you know, how was Brady, how I was playing? I'm like, well, Brady knew every coverage.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yep.

[Leonard Fournette]

Even. Even when they tried to disguise it in a crazy way. Like, they probably got to play on YouTube. When he's hiking the ball under the center, we faking a fake 35. He's yelling to me, oh, Lenny's cover two. As the. As the play is going.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah. So it's like, back turn to the defense.

[Leonard Fournette]

Back turn to the defense. Oh, it's covered, too. Next thing you know, I set it down, he threw me the ball. It was really covered, too. Damn. So I see that. Right. You got these young quarterbacks coming in the game. You know, one of my favorites. We always speak on Shador.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yep.

[Leonard Fournette]

You know, and I know they had the other young quarterback from Alabama they might wanted to draft, Ty Simpson.

[Jarvis Landry]

I've heard some talks about that. Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

Would you rather them draft a vet

[Jarvis Landry]

or take in a vet or draft a young guy? Yeah, man. I don't know. I think Shador has the talent. I think he, you know, we'll see how the Todd Monkey relationship and things go. But I think he's a baller. I think he can really get his guys involved in the game. They got a good backfield. It's really just more of putting the pieces together in a way that they play to his strengths.

[Leonard Fournette]

Right.

[Jarvis Landry]

And I don't know if they did that enough last year. And he didn't play a lot of games. Well, he played a decent amount of games. Right. But, you know, he wasn't taking a lot of reps to the one with the ones until toward the end of the season. So this would be A good indication of like, you know, this year would be a good indication if hopefully he can make that leap.

[Leonard Fournette]

Right.

[Jarvis Landry]

Todd Monken was with me and Odell and Baker and all the guys in Cleveland for a year, year and a half before he went to uga. Then he went to. Went to Lamar. Lamar ends up winning mvp, Right. Running the football, throwing the football. So it'll be interesting to see how that relationship works because, you know, Shador has the gifts. I think he's a talented, talented quarterback. So we'll see. I don't think they take. Take another quarterback. I don't think they can afford to.

[Leonard Fournette]

Do you like Tydo? I mean, I've seen Ty play, you know, in the regular season at Alabama. He has. He has the potential.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah, right.

[Leonard Fournette]

I think the only reason they'll draft him is for competition.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

To get Shadur rolling and see how does he compete against a guy like that? I just.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah, but isn't Ty Simpson a first round draft pick? He's gonna be a first round draft pick quarterback, right?

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah, I think he is.

[Jarvis Landry]

I don't think they could afford to waste a pick. I think they need. I think they need receivers. I mean, I've seen. I see an O line, hall, you know, you know, a lot of guys leaving that. That team on the O line standpoint.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah.

[Jarvis Landry]

You know, I think the biggest thing, if we want to see Shador, or any quarterback for that matter, that's that step back there, have any type of success like they need to. They need to protect them, you know, and give some more weapons around them. I don't know exactly who the receivers are. I know Jerry Judy being one of them. Yeah, right. But they had a tight end that came along as well. He played some good football for him. So it'll be interesting. Ty Simpson, I think he's a great player as well. He got all the physical features. You know, I saw through Blaine Gabbard, your guy on ig, you know, did like a little study on him and shown a couple of throws that he made, and I was like, whoa. Like, you know, he's making NFL throws in college. Guys are not open. He's throwing them open. You know, DB back turns those windows. Yeah, man, Listen, listen. I remember coming to when Adam Henry came to lsu and Adam Henry was like talking to us as well as Cam Cameron. Cam Cameron was also a Baltimore guy who was with that super bowl team. He was now offensive coordinator at lsu. And their big emphasis at the time, Zach Midtenberger was our quarterback. Their big emphasis was like, if the DB back is turned, it's open.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah.

[Jarvis Landry]

You know, like, don't wait till a guy is running away from guys. Whatever it is, if his back is turned, it's open, you know. And that helped us be more of a successful offense and make a lot more plays from the receiver, quarterback standpoint, I think it elevated everybody game. It helped the quarterback get better with anticipation and trust and it helped us, it helped us understand that like, bro, you are always an option, you know, like the ball could come at his back turn, the ball could come. You know what I mean?

[Leonard Fournette]

So, you know, fun take on that. Right? You know, and you know, OBJ's our guy. But in my mind when I was watching y' all play in college, I think y' all had like the first trio or I mean.

[Jarvis Landry]

Duo.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah, duo with a thousand yards.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yep.

[Leonard Fournette]

Also, Jeremy had a thousand yards.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yep.

[Leonard Fournette]

Your quarterback.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yep. Manberger, he threw for like 3,000.

[Leonard Fournette]

3,000 yards, right?

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

In my mind I thought you were ten times better than obj.

[Jarvis Landry]

Man, that's crazy. You say that. I appreciate you saying. I appreciate you saying that.

[Leonard Fournette]

I say that because, you know, like, OBJ made some crazy catches.

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[Leonard Fournette]

the shit you were making. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But the shit you were making, though. Yeah, the diving over the head, was that, Was that against Arkansas?

[Jarvis Landry]

That was against Arkansas.

[Leonard Fournette]

Nah, like, that was crazy.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

No, but a lot of people think that, thought that at that time, though.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

Like, yeah, Jarvis is the. Yeah, the one.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

You know what I'm saying? So I remember watching you guys, the one hand highlight tapes y' all had, you know?

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

And I know y' all practice. Y' all practice y' all ass off every day with the jugs after practice, right? How did you guys make each other better, bro?

[Jarvis Landry]

We just like, it was like an unspoken, you know, like, thing that we had between us. And as much as like we competed, you know, we never really. And I talk about this all the time. We never, like, was like, oh, like, I ain't gonna tell him this thing. Oh, if I'm about to go work out, I ain't gonna tell him that I'm trying to work out because I'm trying to get ahead of him.

[Leonard Fournette]

I did everything together.

[Jarvis Landry]

We did everything together. And it was like a real like, I'm my brother's keeper type of relationship, right? And it allowed us to grow as players, as men. Right. We still had our own walks and journey in college. And he'll be the first to tell you that we had our own journeys in college. But one thing about it, and two things for sure, like, as much as we both were great players, we held each other accountable. Like, bro, you drop a pass, I need the push ups, even if we throwing outside of the WCA. Like, bro, nah, nah, you owe me 20, bro. We can't go inside. We ain't going to get no pluckers. You know, the pluckers on campus, man, we ain't gonna get no pluckers, bro, you owe me no push ups, dog. Like, you know, and, and that was, and that was a big reason, man, that pushed us to a lot of our goals, right? And as far as what you're speaking on as well is like on the field, bro, we was, we was two. We presented two different challenges to defenses, right? Yeah, he was speed. You know, if you get, if he get that ball in space, it's done, it's over. You know, I was more of a third down making the.

[Leonard Fournette]

Making one of the toughest fucking catches ever.

[Jarvis Landry]

Red zone. Like, that was, that was, that was like, that was one of the things I did. I honestly, I would tell you, I prided myself on like being the guy like on third down. Like, throw that shit to me.

[Leonard Fournette]

Like, we had the fab five. The fab y' all was the fab two.

[Jarvis Landry]

I'm be real. Like, yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

And you know, I was getting recruited at that time, but just watching y' all even compete against, you know, TM7 and them, bro, like, you still making those?

[Jarvis Landry]

I'm like, yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

And people don't know. Y' all hands. You were like, what size? 3x4x in gloves 3x3?

[Jarvis Landry]

4x.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah, bro.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah, no, it's helpful. It was helpful. Look, we. We got a whole seven minute highlight table of just one hand catches like through college. Seven minutes long.

[Leonard Fournette]

Put that up somewhere right here, bruh.

[Jarvis Landry]

I remember, I remember as we were getting drafted and some of the combine stories is like, jim Harbaugh. Not Jim Harbaugh. Yeah, Jim Harbaugh. Like, why don't you catch the ball with two hands ever? And I'm like, I do catch the ball with two hands. He was like, well, why did I watch a seven minute highlight tape of you and Odell catching the ball with one hand? So I asked Adam Henry about it and I was like, bro, where this tape at? And I think it's on YouTube now or somewhere now of like, just us in practice engages.

[Leonard Fournette]

You know how crazy that is, though?

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah, bro, we practiced. That's not normal, bro. We train, bro. Going into our sophomore year, we both looked at each other and we was like, man, look, there should not be a catch on the field that we can't make. So we literally would go outside of wca, bro, where we lived, where the players lived, bruh. And we would literally just throw the ball over each other's shoulder. Catch it with two hand. Catch it with one hand. Like the catch that he made in the Giants, man. I saw that in 2013, 2012. Ben saw this, right? So as shocking as it was to the world, I was just like, yeah, that's him. Like, yeah, like, you know, finally. You know what I mean? And on the biggest stage, right? So even the catch that he made this past weekend with the flag football thing, nice. It's like, bro, that's easy for him. Like, it look hard to people, but like, for him, that's really easy because he trains hard, you know? But yeah, man, LSU and that time of going against those guys, I'm sure the same. Same way for you, right? You went. Went against my guy. That, that came that Devin White came to see. He went to Tampa as well. Now he's with the Oakland Raiders.

[Leonard Fournette]

A funny story with Devin White. Right? You know, the young guys always practice, you know, and lift, you know, freshmen first lift in the afternoon.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

At what, 2:30 or some shit like that.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

I'm like, I was telling coach Tommy Moffet and coach Matt at the time, like, bro, he gonna be something special. I said, I don't know what it is about him, man. Little dog, but he's country. His country ass is strong. Like, his country ass is strong. So we made him start working out with the older guys. And, you know, the next thing I know, when I left him, I get drafted. He was the next guy up.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

So I've always had the right guys around me that I can groom to make sure they become who they become. Right. And Devin noticed like, bro, he was hard working. He's still hard working. Right. And I think his payday is going to come right.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yep.

[Leonard Fournette]

Because he deserves it.

[Jarvis Landry]

He do.

[Leonard Fournette]

And we. Speaking of payday.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

No, our guy. Jsn.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah. Yeah. That bag, you know, receiver talk. I love it. You know, again, like he's well deserving.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yes.

[Jarvis Landry]

He's what? He again, don't come for me, but he. I like how the Seattle Seahawks use him because it reminds me a lot of me in the Dolphins playing the Adam Gates offense where I could be in the backfield, I could be the third receiver inside, I could be outside. Like, his versatility is something that I love to see. And they using it to his advantage. Right. And they helping the offense, clearly. Right. So, man, I'm happy that he got paid, bro. You know, and it helps run game.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah, it does.

[Jarvis Landry]

You know, having a guy like that, you fake a handoff too. A jet sweep too. Now we running outside zone and Leonard Fournette.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah.

[Jarvis Landry]

Kenny Walker back there, like, for sure. Some, you know, there's some space, there's gonna be some lanes. Bro, can you talk about like playing with guys like that?

[Leonard Fournette]

Right.

[Jarvis Landry]

I know your offense in Jacksonville wasn't so much like that, but in Tampa you guys did a lot of multiple, multiple, multiple things with Scotty would be your jet sweep guy, stuff like that.

[Leonard Fournette]

Mike Evans was our jet sweep guy at one point.

[Jarvis Landry]

Oh my God.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yes, yes.

[Jarvis Landry]

Six, five of this, man.

[Leonard Fournette]

That's crazy running to he getting it.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

But for me it just created another dynamic for the whole offense. Right. That was a pretty much stack ass offense and we really could have ran anything we wanted. I'm just telling you the truth, whether Mike on the Jeff Sweet and I'm lead blocking for him around the end to block the nickel or the cornerback or the inside guy was the will. It really. It really didn't matter. And when you have weapons like that that can open up each and every part of the passing game to run a game, it made it. It made the game so much simpler. Right? And I can only imagine, you know, as a quarterback, you have all these pieces where you can throw the ball to. It's a field day, man. It's a field day. And it's all about just putting it together and ego checking, you know, it's only one ball. Yeah. So.

[Jarvis Landry]

But the best players got to touch the ball like. Like at some point, either in training camp or at some point throughout the season, you know, you got your go to guys still. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, we got a lot of good players, but like on. On first and second down, I'm. I'm handing that ball to Leonard Fournette and not, you know, Geno. Who's the guy?

[Leonard Fournette]

Bernard.

[Jarvis Landry]

Gino Bernard.

[Leonard Fournette]

Gio.

[Jarvis Landry]

Bernard.

[Tyler Redick]

Gio.

[Jarvis Landry]

Bernard. Great player for sure. And they say no shade to Gio.

[Leonard Fournette]

Be third down, specialist.

[Jarvis Landry]

G O G. Bro. He's a savage beast. Right? Well, first. Second down, and he's a value to the team.

[Leonard Fournette]

Right?

[Jarvis Landry]

But first, second down, like, Leonard's my guy, right? Third down, Geo come in. He's running my choice routes. If I don't have a guy that could do it right to get him the ball. Right. So I just feel like with JSN and what we seeing right now in. In the landscape of receivers, right? Obviously you have your Justin Jeffersons of the world, Ja' Marr Chase still guys that could do it. All right. But I think JSN is a. It is rightfully deserving of becoming the highest paid receiver on the market because he can do it all.

[Leonard Fournette]

I understand. So I want to ask you this.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

Going off the history of our colleges at your position, you don't.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah, I do not.

[Leonard Fournette]

I want to hear from you because there's a lot of debate going on.

[Jarvis Landry]

Do not, bro. There's no listening OU or lsu. It's LSU all day. It's LSU all day. And all y' all in the chat. Look, I've been in Ohio. I lived in Ohio. Right. But these guys at lsu, you ask them guys at OSU who they was looking at in high school and in college, who they.

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Who.

[Jarvis Landry]

What highlight tapes they was looking at. They gonna say Odell Beckham, Jarvis Landry. Yeah. I'm just letting you know. Before the wave actually started. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Leonard Fournette]

Y' all was the wave.

[Jarvis Landry]

I'm just saying. Julio Jones. Yeah, I know that ain't. You know, I know they ain't lsu, but, like, you know, at the. For a long time, SEC was driving receivers, and most of these kids that we see now who are flourishing in the NFL, they ain't gonna tell me. They ain't gonna tell me that they wasn't watching all of these SEC receivers do their thing growing up at watching their highlight tapes. So that's why I say lsu.

[Leonard Fournette]

I love that. Right.

[Jarvis Landry]

Receiver, you my last.

[Leonard Fournette]

My last question before we end. 4th and south football takes right. You know, we're from Louisiana, and, you know, they have a lot of guys out of Miami.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

And it's been a conversation that's been going on for years. You know, who's the better state? Florida's bigger.

[Jarvis Landry]

Three times, two times bigger.

[Leonard Fournette]

Three times, two times bigger. But I will always hold my own weight and say Louisiana.

[Jarvis Landry]

I agree. Why? Why do you feel? I want to see if your take on this and my take on this is the same.

[Leonard Fournette]

I think environmental wise, it's the same. You know, we all, you know, we got the Pompano projects. Well, that's where Lamar's from. We got all the projects and all this from. Yeah, but I just think, you know, being from. It's smaller, like, it's so much harder to make. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, the grit we have, and we just different. Like, we built different.

[Jarvis Landry]

100%, you know what I'm saying?

[Leonard Fournette]

I've played with a lot of Florida cats that came to lsu. Who didn't last? I'm just being real. Who didn't last? You could put any kid from Louisiana around any part of the world. We gonna last.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

I don't know why, but I think that's just who we are. That's what's in us.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

I mean, what's your take on that, man?

[Jarvis Landry]

I feel the same. I feel the same. I think. I think I. Again, I play with a lot of Florida guys.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah.

[Jarvis Landry]

My thing with Florida guys is what I see, I think they. They are, like, burnt out way too fast. Like. And what I mean by that, they have their, you know, college and NFL experience when they're in high school. Right. Where, like, I feel like by the time they get to the NFL, like, some of them don't love it as much. And I'm not Speaking for all Florida guys, I play with a ton of Florida guys that, you know, that's with it.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yeah.

[Jarvis Landry]

You know what I'm saying? On any given Sunday, Saturday still probably strap up the cleats right now and get down, like. But what one thing I noticed about like, LA guys is like, not just was it about being like, raised different. It was just like it was something in us.

[Leonard Fournette]

You got to make it.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah, man. I don't give a fuck.

[Leonard Fournette]

I don't give a fuck what's going on.

[Jarvis Landry]

It just felt different.

[Leonard Fournette]

We have to make it.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah, it felt different. The mentality was different. Right. And I'm sure Florida guys going to feel the same way. And I respect it. I think it's two. Two states that I think could damn near dominates. I think dominates the NFL football. Right. From skill position at least. Most of the guys are Florida, Louisiana, Texas and California.

[Leonard Fournette]

Like, I mean, even you speak on Texas. Ceedee Lamb is from Louisiana.

[Jarvis Landry]

Oh, yeah.

[Leonard Fournette]

He just got misplaced because of the hurricane.

[Jarvis Landry]

You know what? Now that you say that the top four receivers in the NFL is from Louisiana. CD Lamb, Ja' Marr Chase, Justin Jefferson.

[Leonard Fournette]

Yes.

[Jarvis Landry]

Crazy.

[Leonard Fournette]

It's real out here.

[Jarvis Landry]

I'm just saying. We just saying, cousin, but nah, man.

[Leonard Fournette]

Bordon south, man.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yeah, man.

[Leonard Fournette]

Fun show today, man. Appreciate. Appreciate you. Today's my nephew's birthday, so gotta go enjoy the day with him.

[Jarvis Landry]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[Leonard Fournette]

You know, so.

[Jarvis Landry]

Hey, happy birthday, J. Man. Love you, boy. I'll see you in a minute.

[Leonard Fournette]

We'll end it like that for this. Out, baby. We out.

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