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Good Morning. Happy Saturday. It's 5:20 in the morning. Your favorite sports show brought to you by Boost Mobile. We are here to recap game four that took place yesterday in the Bridge Man. The Thunder got a W yesterday against the Pacers, 111 to 104. It was a hell of a ball game yesterday Man, a lot of people thought that the Pacers were gonna close this game out. That is not the case, man. OKC got them one yesterday in the bridge, man. Good game yesterday. I know y' all was tapped in, man. What y' all feelings about out the game so far?
Host 5
No, I like. I like the game. It was a good game.
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Okay.
Host 5
This game's really been good games to me. I just feel like I really thought y' all was gonna win. I ain't gonna lie, bro. Just got spooky at the end, man.
Host 2
We did not close out, man. T, how you feeling about the game so far, man? Before we get into a deep dive.
Host 1
It was a good game. I thought the Packer was gonna take it. They was playing well throughout the whole game. I don't know. The fourth quarter just kind of got a little. It was a lot of fouls. Denise Smith did a lot of fouling. Benedict Mather, some fouling at the end of the game, but it was like they cleaned up them fouls. That should have been a game they should have won most definitely.
Host 2
Listen, man, as a Patriots fan, I've seen a lot of complaints yesterday about the officiating. I think the officiating yesterday both ways was not the best. When I seen Scott Foster was pulling up to the bridge, I see see the play already maneuver trying to make his goal 7. I was not a fan of that. But that is no excuse why the Pacers lost that game yesterday. Like you said in the fourth quarter, we did not play well at all. What's on the first half though? It was good both ways. Both teams are going back and forth. We got good contributions from both benches this time. We talked about it. That bench wins the games. Alex Caruso hooped out yesterday, had a smooth 20 piece. Obad Dyer was balling yesterday for the Patriots. He was really showing up for us yesterday. And a game where especially for the Pacers in we did not get a lot of contributions on offense yesterday. I know Miles Turner was battling an illness, but he has looked like they shell of himself offensively. Especially what we saw in that Knicks series. For sure, you look at Aaron Nesmith, not been the best series for him. He was 2 for 9 yesterday. A lot of people were calling for Ben Matheran yesterday. It didn't get a lot of minutes and we'll talk about his minutes. He did play. But yeah, I think the rotations yesterday was definitely a downfall to the Pacers loss yesterday. Tyrese had a solid game. I would say great game. The turnovers from him yesterday was Crazy. Usually he is. Zero turnovers. He had five yesterday. You're not gonna win too many games. Your point guard got five turnovers, man.
Host 5
Yeah, you. I don't know why I hate that being. I mean, being. I hate the Miles don't have a sub, man. He needed a breather yesterday. He seemed like he was tired out there.
Host 2
Yeah, he was bad at illness.
Host 5
Illness. But I just feel like he just. I don't know. He didn't have a chance to sit down and catch his breath. Because I like being. I'm like, damn. He wasn't aggressive, but I'm like, are they telling him not to shoot? Like, what is. What's going on? Cause y' all needed another scoring option.
Host 2
Yeah, I mean, we got that dub last game because of Benedict Matheran. He played phenomenal last game. Only got 13 minutes. And again, the minutes he did play yesterday wasn't the best, but I feel like early in the rotation we definitely could have got him in the game more again. Aaron D. Smith plays hard, defense, fought hard, got not rebound. So it definitely was showing his presence on the court. But offensively he did not give us much. And we needed contributions yesterday. Bad from offensive end.
Host 1
Yeah, it's like guys like Andrew Nehar, guys who have really good moments. That's what I was saying about the Pacers. They don't have a consistent score. You know what I mean? Somebody's going to always get 20 points. Like Benedict Mather, he had that great game, but we don't expect that from him all the time. For sure, he probably capable of doing stuff like that, but I don't think he has the opportunity to do that. And that's the only thing that scared me about this Pacer team. Even though they're a really good team, you can't depend on somebody to get 20 points every night.
Host 2
Yeah, because even the person we got 20 from yesterday, Pascal, Mr. 20 tonight, he did not have a great shooting game yesterday. He started off hottest in the first quarter, but he fizzled off, man. He was six or 15 yesterday. And majority of that six of May field goals came in the first quarter. Tyrese was aggressive late in the game, which was cool. One thing I had a real problem with, Tyrese was out too long in the second half. I get it. I know we stick to our rotations. Cool. TJ McConnell did decent yesterday, but we needed Tyrese in the game. There was like a six or seven point minute swing where he wasn't in the game. And that seven point lead we had going to the fourth was Gone like that. And OKC turned up in that situation. Man, our rotations weren't the best last night, but credit to okc, they played good basketball yesterday in the second half they were really pressuring the ball. Say what you want to about fouls, that's a scapegoat. Everybody got to play with officials both ways. I don't think we lacked too many foul calls yesterday. Even though it was Scott Foster. I think the SGA push off on NE Smith could have been offensive foul. Cool. But you still got to win a basketball game. You had a lead, you had everything you needed to win this game.
Host 5
I was letting Jaylen Williams get his shit off yesterday.
Host 1
Yeah, his game travel. He played well both these games on the road.
Host 2
Yeah, he's real comfortable in the bridge, bro. 26 last game, 27 last night, 8 for 18. And again he didn't miss at the free throw line. Neither did SGA. I think in the first half he had two free throws. He ended the game with 10. So that means he got eight free throws in the second half. And if you look at the Pacers yesterday, miss free throws, unforgivable. You are in the NBA Finals. Regardless of what's happening, how you feel about the physicality, you have got to hit at the charity stripe. And there's a possession, man, that we just legitimately missed three or four free throws. It was just like Pascal smoke some. Then Obi missed two when we got the flagrant. It's like you have to capitalize on those moments. OKC only hit three threes yesterday, man.
Host 1
They played, they shot terrible from the three point line, horrible. But Benedict came in and missed some. Some tough free throws.
Host 2
Oh man, when Ben came in the game, man, that. That's why I said it sucks. It had that representation for him. He came in and missed the free throws that we needed. On top of that, those two dead ball fouls was got them extra possessions. Cause they gave us turnover that we had a chance to capitalize and we just didn't do it yesterday. The game was within reach and we did not execute yesterday.
Host 1
Me and Mike was sitting here and I'm like, the Patriots gonna win. It's too close. These are the kind of games they win. And when they got that foul when he was out of bounds and they get the ball, a free throw on the ball back. I was like, oh shit. Over now.
Host 5
I just don't like that y' all play with his minutes like that. He can't to me like. And I don't know, but I feel like, you can't get in the groove.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 5
Like, if you just really don't know, like, your role on this team, like, any given night.
Host 1
Cause even when he killed, he only played 20 minutes.
Host 5
He only played a couple minutes. So, like, bro said, you can't really depend on him to go crazy because he ain't been able to go crazy, like, out here because it ain't. It ain't been comfortable for him.
Host 2
Most definitely. And not to make excuses, because they're professionals, this is what they're called to do. But if you don't play a whole half and you got to come in here, free throws in the clutch moment. That's a lot to ask.
Host 1
Nah, that's very much so, a lot to ask. I'm just surprised because he's the third leading scorer on their team, and it's like, why he don't play?
Host 5
Nobody ever has an answer for that. Like, that is insane to me, bro. And I feel like. Ain't like he coming in there, like, destroying the game. Like, y' all need his offensive. You know what I mean? If Pascal and Tyrese ain't giving it to you, that's your. Put your guy in, man. Let him rock.
Host 2
Outside of Pascal, he is the only Pacer who can confidently get his own bucket. ISO. Yeah, that's a legitimately outside of him. Nobody else can get an ISO bucket, even with Tyrese last night.
Host 5
I think Ben can.
Host 2
No, that's what I'm saying. He is outside of pass out. He's the only other person you can get a ball to and get a bucket by himself. Everybody else, you have got to create, create, create. And I think that second half, like you said, a lot of people weren't making shots, A lot of people weren't aggressive. So when Tyrese is coming off that corner, yeah, he got a couple of nice layups, but it wasn't no space to get no passes off. And we know he is a pass first player. It got wicked yesterday.
Host 1
Chad Hungram did a good job when he switched on Tyrese at the end, making him go left. And Tyrese was trying to get back to that right to the point he couldn't, and he had to shoot an air ball. Set back three. I'm like, that's good defense by Chet. And like, a play before, Shay was guarding, and he hit Shay with the right hand, got right to the basket, laid it in. And I'm like, man, y' all gotta make that adjustment on Tyrese. When you get in an isolation situation with him, you gotta send him Left, even though he capable of doing his step back three or whatever it is. But if you let him get to that right hand, man.
Host 2
Yo, the vibes.
Host 1
Yeah. And Che did a good job down the stretch when he switched on him, not letting him get right.
Host 5
My boy Chad was crashing that glass too, last night too.
Host 2
Most definitely. Very aggressive second chance points, especially in the first half. We seem to be playing very well. They stayed in the game because of second chance points. Also. I got to show some love to SGA35 yesterday. He pretty much outscored Pascal and Tyrese. So when one superstar is outscoring your two people, you need to win. It's a recipe for disaster as well for him, man.
Host 5
Yeah. Cause they didn't get nothing from Hardenstein last night. N. Damn. They're just in the way a lot of the time.
Host 2
Yeah, but you look at the. I mean, you look at the stats yesterday for Chet. I mean, you getting 14 to 15 in the finals game. You. You playing ball.
Host 1
You playing ball.
Host 2
And we are not a good rebounding team at all. So definitely impose his will yesterday. Like we asked for Miles yesterday, offensively, he's been struggling, but you know, that defensive energy, it wasn't there yesterday.
Host 1
That put back dunk that check got was a big play.
Host 2
Yeah, big play.
Host 1
Cause I was like, if he, they would have missed it. I mean, obviously they missed that shot. But if he ain't get that put back dunk, that game was over.
Host 2
I'm rolling with that. Yeah, I feel like he possession for sure.
Host 1
Cause some of the shots, even sga, the shot he hit down the stretch, that three was like a last second. He capable of making that shot. But they had a good defense. Possession like most definitely. And he hit a tough three. And then that shot he hit over Nemhard, the step back where he almost falling, tripping or whatever. Them just tough makes right there.
Host 2
That's a tough make. Another possession too. Even though fans was upset about it. Maybe a little push there. That dribble hand off from Miles to Tyrese and Lou Dort blitz and got that.
Host 4
That.
Host 2
Yeah, man, that. That sparked. That sparked energy in that team. All they need is one play. They struck in the water with blood, man. They are definitely going to get to that Basketball on defensive end, man. Man, shout out to the Thunder. They endure. They did what they supposed to do and they got a win on the road, man. Hell of a game. All right, we'll hop in the super chat for a second before we talk anymore. Humber Web said Miles Hunter is selling what's going on? He nervous. They said my boy has been sick. It's been evident he hasn't been playing like the miles we're used to seeing. But it is NBA finals. It don't matter. He got to catch it up for sure. Arian Duchy in the super chat says Jeff, who would you rather have as you got your team, Caruso or TJ Nash? Shout out to LD Williams.
Host 1
Caruso.
Host 2
Yeah, Caruso. Shout out to TJ Nash.
Host 5
But crazy yesterday.
Host 2
Come on, man, we talked about that bench not showing up. He showed up yesterday. 20 piece. No, you can't even pass the ball to the opposite side of court with him, bro. That's a couple of Tyrese's turn up. Like, why y' all keep playing with him, bro?
Host 1
Yeah, he had a huge steal on Pascal. Pascal drove it and he spun. He came and jumped up and knocked the pass. Now, like, he makes some unbelievable plays. And when he's scoring, that's a bonus, man. What?
Host 5
That is a crazy bonus to get a dub, too.
Host 1
Yeah, he earning his money for sure.
Host 2
Yeah, most definitely, man. Like you said, he's outscoring stars on the other side that ain't supposed to be accounted for. And he blitzing shout out to Garuso, man. Playing good basketball for sure.
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Host 2
Demetri the Super Chat said low versus being a good ass matchup. What y' all think?
Host 5
No, it's not. Shout out to low.
Host 2
Shout out to low.
Host 5
Going to six. Six.
Host 2
Oh yeah, it's Christmas. It is Christmas. Load on. No smoke at all in that situation. Von Murphy the Super Chat said SGA had a highlight of push offs. Miles Turner the bed as One of the leaders of the team. Love the pod. Yeah, sga. I mean, listen, bro, that's his game. He's a strong person. You gotta play basketball the best way. It gets him, bro. He's one of the best in the league. All the counters. He's just strong, bro.
Host 5
That's true.
Host 2
Yeah, I can't be mad. Ain't no pushing off these grown men playing physical basketball. You can only do what you can do. And they played good defense for the most part. I mean, yeah, he had 35, but Andrew Newport played good defense. If somebody like that, you're not gonna stop for sure.
Host 5
18, 7. Just not gonna cut it for Tyrese in this series, bro. That's a cool game for somebody else, but for him. But that's his 25.
Host 1
That's his norm, though. That's what he averaged. 18 and 11.
Host 5
But they need him to. To damn near be 25, bro.
Host 2
You know what? In this game, I'm not gonna put too much on him, because in the fourth quarter, he did show up like he's supposed to. He hit, did hit. Tommy Buckets got five turnovers is what I had a problem with, cuz a couple of those should be assist. But those turnovers were definitely terrible plays, for sure. But nobody else in the offensive end showed up yesterday for our team. And that's really what my problem is. At least hit a couple of shots to keep going. Everybody can't have a bad game. Like you said, we are a team, team, team. So that means everybody has to be solid. If you having that many people slack off, you are definitely going to lose. Against a team like okc. Yeah, most definitely. But before we get more to the breakdown, man, listen, man, we know Father's Day is tomorrow. I know y' all last minute, y' all ain't got no gifts. Look no further. Tap in with Ridge, man. Ridge.com Club520. Use that promo code. Give him this wonderful wallet here. You know the vibes with the Ridge, man. One thing I like about this, outside of it being able to hold 12 cars, it's got the air tag spot here. So a lot of us be losing our wallets. We'll be moving around. You can tap in, man. You got to have that money. Yeah. You ain't trying to get hacked, man. So shout out to Riz. Tap in. Get your father a nice gift, man. It is tomorrow for your last day, people. And listen, man, the RFID technology, it stop you from getting wiped down. You know what I'm saying? The scam is going Crazy. You got to go. Make sure you protect your money, man. You got yours on deck behind. I know you be moving around, man.
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Shout out to rich man. We appreciate y' all in the super chat again. Pastor Lucas said last two and three minutes had me sick. Yeah, man, that sucks. I ain't gonna hold you for as good as he played the game before last. It looked like he had a complete meltdown at the end, man. And that is more ammunition for Rick not to play him. But we need him to win this series, man. His offensive contributions is the reason why we even got to the final versus Knicks. You gotta let my boy cook, man. It's a sad moment. But as a whole, we let we lost that meltdown. Can't just blame him. Nobody played the best yesterday. So shout out to Ben Mather for sure. See Mitch said best pot out man love from Delaware. See Mitch Appreciate you, man. Shout out to Delaware for sure. Ain't that where Dante DiVincizo from?
Host 1
Yeah, okay. They call him the Michael Jordan of Delaware.
Host 2
Respect.
Host 5
Wow.
Host 2
Shout out to Delaware, man. Love local said in the super chat, y' all think it's crazy to say that Sean Livingston is one of the greatest mid range shoes of all time?
Host 5
No.
Host 2
Jeff and Mooc, how was it to guard him?
Host 1
It was like guarding a post player. He played after his injury, you know, he couldn't move like he once did. He became a post player, shoot mid range shots. I mean he's like 6, 7, so that ain't really foreign like for him to post up. But yeah, he had an unbelievable turnaround jumper though.
Host 5
Yeah. Big reason why they won that championship also.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
Gonna say most definitely. Especially that first one, bro. Yeah. Mid range is elite shot to Sean Livingston, man. One of the best from the Midwest for sure. All right, man. Game four, it's over. With game five. Going back to okc.ty series, we got the momentum, so. Okay. You feeling. You feel a hob with your thunder right now?
Host 5
Oh, yeah. OkC by 20 for this. This game five.
Host 2
Built to ass.
Host 5
Yeah.
Host 2
Yeah. I. I've always expected that we would probably lose game five. I think the biggest problem that I have is that, you know what I'm saying, you had to win yesterday. You had to win yesterday. That's a win you gotta have because.
Host 5
I gave him too much cushion. But I do think it'll go seven. I wanted to go seven, man.
Host 1
I thought it was a must win for Indiana last night. I'm a little nervous. I want the Pacers to win. I mean, for the city. I don't care who win, honestly. But the city has been cool. Last night was a cool vibe downtown.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 5
Yeah.
Host 1
That was a must win for the Pacers. It's going to be tough to be OKC. Game 5.
Host 5
That's the most important game. To y' all.
Host 2
Yeah, to me. Yes. Because now you have to go win another game at okc.
Host 1
It don't matter. Yeah, you gotta win another game.
Host 2
You have to go win another game okc. You do? Yeah.
Host 1
I don't.
Host 2
That's tough. Like, I ain't counting us out, but to go win game five, that's going to be a tough task. Now, Scott Foster better not be there. I know that damn much.
Host 1
Nah, you can't do back to back.
Host 2
Game or Zach Zarbon. Don't send Zach either. Shout out my dog, but sit this out. We don't need none of that energy, man. Give us a better officiating crew.
Host 5
Man, I'm scared of Tyrese, bro. In the game seven in there.
Host 1
Yeah. I'm just.
Host 2
And okc.
Host 1
They got it.
Host 5
The wings, bro.
Host 2
The wings is my boy is the.
Host 5
Angels is flying high above him, bro.
Host 2
Last time we see him in game seven, you know what happened? You know what I'm saying? Walk them down.
Host 5
That's what I'm saying.
Host 1
That'll be fire if it goes seven and the Pacers win.
Host 5
But you don't see it.
Host 1
I ain't gonna lie. It's gonna be tough to beat them twice.
Host 5
Yeah.
Host 2
Yesterday was a game. Like you said, how game one felt for them. That's how game four felt for us. Like, oh, we should have had that. Yeah, we should have closed that game out, and we didn't play the best and neither day. But you got to go get a win like that. OKC is not finna hit three threes.
Host 1
Game 5, not at home game.
Host 2
Sliders about to be up, bro. You about to get Isaiah Joe with three threes. You about to get Caruso with three threes.
Host 5
Wigs don't get some love.
Host 2
Come on. Aaron Wiggins about to go in and get 18 again.
Host 5
I mean, if it goes seven, I'm. I'm scared of that nigga right there.
Host 1
But I think. I think it's gonna go seven. I think OKC win this game. I think parcels come home and win.
Host 2
Okay?
Host 1
And then the game seven, you never know what can happen, right?
Host 5
Yeah.
Host 1
So I think they got a closer in Tyrese, but they got a closer in sga. Yeah, but it's just tough to win.
Host 5
On the road benches. Game seven, man.
Host 1
Tough to win on the road. I would imagine it wouldn't be that much bench play in game seven. You gotta ride with your horses, bro.
Host 2
This is a legacy game. No, I'm not putting my hands on top of the.
Host 5
Y' all not subbing?
Host 2
No, bro. You gonna get a little bit of a breather game.
Host 5
Get in.
Host 2
It's for all the marbles, bro. This is a legacy game.
Host 1
I can't see Tyrese sitting out like he did game four that long.
Host 2
I was even surprised, OKC coach, when they took SG out in the fourth, you know what I'm saying? He got that fourth foul. I was just like.
Host 1
He took him out for like 38 seconds.
Host 2
And did I seen him walk up and go back to the. He went. Sat back down. He was like, now I'm going back in this game. I was like, oh, yeah. They really about to give us this game. You going to give us two minutes less of sga? Nah, he did the right call. Yeah. And ain't none of that. We get to a game seven, no subs.
Host 5
No subs. Going to be hard. Sh y. Going to have him out there sweating and breathing hard.
Host 2
I don't give a damn game.
Host 1
It's one game left.
Host 2
It's the last game of the season. It's for all the fucking marbles, bro. You cannot, Bro. Get your little Gatorade break, bro. You got half time for a reason. Lock in, bro.
Host 5
All right, so who is y' all starting five for both teams at the end of the game, the last three minutes of the game, who was your five? The game is close.
Host 2
The game is close.
Host 5
One Point, it could be either team up.
Host 2
Well right now for the Pacers, depending upon how Miles Turner's playing. Obviously, he deserves to be in that moment, but if he's having a struggling offensive game, you, damn it, kind of go Obi. Because Obi's been rebounding just as well as typically Miles does in that situation, and he's giving us a little bit more of a spark as far as put backs and rolls and stuff like that. But I'm gonna trust my starters, bro, in that moment. They've got you here this far. They've proven they can play in the moment. I'm gonna give them that chance to win a game.
Host 5
So if Ben is having a great offensive game, do we sit him with, you know, at the end of the.
Host 2
Game, if Ben is cooking like he did last game before, he has to be on the court, okay? Has to be on the court now. If he's having a regular game and you want to go to starters, I ain't mad at it. But if he's killing, you gotta watch a high hand, bro. We've seen some unsung heroes, you know what I'm saying, show up in games we didn't expect them to. But I think the starters aren't there.
Host 5
Right.
Host 2
If I'm okay, see, I'm rocking with my 5 2.
Host 1
I play my starters.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Maybe Caruso.
Host 5
I would say Hardenstein down.
Host 1
Yeah, I probably play Caruso down the stretch, though.
Host 2
Okay.
Host 5
I just wanted to ask y' all that.
Host 2
And he's got the experience. He's been in the moment. Obviously, he gonna contribute. Come on, man. Seven for nine. He was hooping yesterday at 20 piece.
Host 5
Yeah. That hurt, y' all.
Host 2
Yeah. I mean, everything.
Host 5
Yeah, the turnover. The game was even sloppy in the beginning of the game. But him having that dub and playing defense like you do, bro, that. That was a. That was nailing the coffin to me, man.
Host 2
He helped force a lot of them turnovers, man. Him and Lil Dork, no matter what they got scoring, they gonna cause havoc for sure. But a good man, good game. Excuse me, Todd. Series going back to okc. It will be a tough one on the road. OKC is going to definitely play very, very hard. I expect the Pace to show up, but this has been a good series so far, man, so we are excited. Hopefully go seven. I would love for it to go six for Pacers, but, you know, game seven, ain't nobody mad at that at all. One more time for Boost Mobile, man. You know the vibes. 99.99. Tap in. Get you a brand new iPhone, 1548 megapixels, Dynamic Camera Man. Just in time for Father's Day tap in. We appreciate y' all. We'll be back Monday morning. 5:20 in the morning.
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Summary of Podcast Episode 520: "In The Morning - Jeff Teague REACTS to Thunder COMEBACK WIN vs. Pacers in Game 4 of NBA FINALS, tied 2-2"
Podcast: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
Release Date: June 14, 2025
Duration: Approximately 26 minutes
In Episode 520 of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd," the hosts provide an in-depth analysis of Game 4 of the NBA Finals between the Oklahoma City Thunder and the Indiana Pacers. The game ended with a thrilling comeback victory for the Thunder, tying the series at 2-2. The discussion spans player performances, strategic decisions, and pivotal moments that influenced the outcome.
The episode kicks off with Host 2 recapping the game's final score: Thunder 111, Pacers 104. The hosts express surprise and excitement over the Thunder's ability to overturn expectations and secure the win against the Pacers, who were favored to close out the series.
Host 2 [02:08]: "We are here to recap Game 4 that took place yesterday in the Bridge Man. The Thunder got a win yesterday against the Pacers, 111 to 104. It was a hell of a ball game yesterday, man."
Host 5 [02:36]: "No, I like the game. It was a good game."
The conversation delves into individual performances, highlighting key players from both teams and their impact on the game.
Host 1 [03:11]: "It was a good game. I thought the Pacers were gonna take it. They were playing well throughout the whole game. Denise Smith did a lot of fouling."
Host 2 [03:39]: "We got good contributions from both benches this time. Alex Caruso hooped out yesterday, had a smooth 20 piece. Obadiah Dyer was balling yesterday for the Pacers, really showing up for us yesterday."
The hosts discuss the Pacers' offensive struggles, noting Miles Turner's illness and Aaron Nesmith's underperformance.
A significant portion of the discussion focuses on the strategic decisions made by both teams, particularly the Pacers' rotations and offensive strategies.
Host 2 [06:48]: "We did not close out, man. Our rotations weren't the best last night, but credit to OKC, they played good basketball in the second half. They were really pressuring the ball."
Host 2 [07:32]: "Pascal did not have a great shooting game yesterday. He started off hot in the first quarter but fizzled off."
The hosts emphasize the importance of bench strength and consistent offensive contributions, critiquing the Pacers' inability to rely on key players consistently.
Defensive strategies and critical plays that swung the momentum are analyzed in detail.
Host 1 [10:16]: "Chad Hungram did a good job switching on Tyrese at the end, making him go left. That's good defense by Chad."
Host 2 [11:15]: "He [Chet] played ball. We are not a good rebounding team at all. But he imposed his will yesterday."
Key defensive plays, including forced turnovers and crucial blocks, are highlighted as pivotal in securing the Thunder's victory.
The hosts engage with listeners' comments, addressing questions and reactions from the audience.
Super Chat by Humber Web [12:23]: "Miles Turner is struggling because he's been sick."
Super Chat by Arian Duchy [12:38]: "Jeff, who would you rather have on your team, Caruso or TJ Nash?"
The responses reflect support for players like Alex Caruso and critique rotation decisions impacting the team's performance.
(Note: Some Super Chat interactions related to advertisements and promotions were skipped to focus on content.)
Looking ahead, the hosts discuss the implications of the series being tied and what to expect in the upcoming Game 5.
Host 2 [23:18]: "OKC by 20 for this Game 5."
Host 5 [23:28]: "OKC is going to play very, very hard. I expect the Pace to show up, but this has been a good series so far."
The conversation anticipates a challenging Game 5 in Oklahoma City, emphasizing the need for strategic adjustments and consistent performances from key players.
Host 2 [04:31]: "You had a lead, you had everything you needed to win this game."
Host 1 [10:16]: "Chad Hungram did a good job switching on Tyrese at the end, making him go left."
Host 2 [07:32]: "Pascal did not have a great shooting game yesterday. He started off hot in the first quarter but fizzled off."
The episode concludes with final thoughts on the Thunder's comeback victory and the challenges that lie ahead in the series. The hosts express optimism for the Thunder's resilience while acknowledging the Pacers' potential to bounce back in the next game.
Host 2 [26:31]: "This is a legacy game. No, I'm not putting my hands on top of the."
Host 5 [26:54]: "The game is close. One point, it could be either team up."
The hosts sign off with anticipation for Game 5, emphasizing the importance of maintaining defensive pressure and strategic play to secure a series lead.
This summary captures the essence of Episode 520, highlighting the key discussions, player analyses, strategic evaluations, and listener interactions that provide a comprehensive overview of the podcast's content for those who haven't tuned in.