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This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Sports Radio.
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Here we go on a Tuesday. I don't know if we can duplicate yesterday's massive NFL trades. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be listening, watching whatever the platform is, thanks for making us part of your day. So yesterday, halfway through the show, almost to the minute, Miles Garrett, Browns Rams and Rams are now the first team that's ever had a reigning MVP on a team with the defensive mvp. So they're overwhelming super bowl favorites. And I've said this through the years, sports should be fun. I mean, it's a business, but I'm involved in a business. It's fun. It should be fun to come to work, right? I mean, in a funny business like comedy, take it seriously. In a serious business, you gotta have a sense of humor. Lighten it up. And Yesterday and the NFL's number one in this country for a lot of reasons, I think we've become an event culture and, you know, one game a week as we're more distracted on our phones, all the platforms, you know, football's kind of built for us now. But they also do a lot of really smart things. Like, for instance, they stay away from politics. I know the media loves when politics and sports are conjoined. The the public doesn't. Most people go to games for escapism. They'll get their politics somewhere else. NFL's pretty good at staying out of that space. They constantly tweak their rules. They're never rigid or worried about 1950 or 60. The catch, the pat, the kickoff. They're always tweaking stuff. The rules committee. But more than anything, the NFL doesn't get in the way of fun. Yesterday was fun. It was easy to play along. Hey, Miles Garrett to the Rams and Jared Verse and three really good picks to the Browns. The NBA. I mean, between the second apron, the first apron, Google first apron, NBA and see what comes up. The more you read about it, the less I understand about it. The Larry Bird exceptions Pick swaps. Now they've got an anti tanking 3, 2, 1. Try to figure it out. It's confusing, it's hard to follow. This is sports. Mid level exceptions, four teams trades pick swaps. Yesterday was, hey, did you hear about the big trade? Great player, Browns goes to a great team, Rams, and then really good young player, Rams and a bunch of picks go to the Browns and everybody can play along. We're not talking about the Larry Bird exception or pick swaps. I mean they've even got like anti tanking stuff now. It's so much. And because. And you see this in states like California when you have a lot of bureaucracy and regulations, it's tough on business. It's tough to get houses built, tough to get those solar panels put in. Well, it's the same thing in the NBA. They've got so many restrictions and so much bureaucracy that it's made trades very rare in the NBA. It feels like when I was a kid or I was younger, there was massive NBA trades. I mean, we're talking about Giannis. We'll probably talk about the Giannis deal till next trading deadline. It'll never happen. You just don't see a lot of trade. There's so much bureaucracy, so many swaps and picks and the salaries have to match. You're getting in the way of fun. The NFL big trades easy to digest and they make it so easy that general managers in the NFL, I mean the Rams, the Browns redid a deal on Miles Garrett's contract and the Rams in March were like, all right, let's go. They decided in March. It even affected their draft picks. So sports should be fun. The NBA has got so much bureaucracy and so many regulations and salaries have to match that nobody makes trades. Fans love trades. I mean, yesterday was one of the great 90 minutes at the end of a program we've ever had because everybody can play along. Great player goes to great team. Good young player goes to rebuilding team. And here's some picks. And I didn't have to worry about swaps and salaries, matching and cap sheet regulations and anti tanking bureaucracy, which I can't figure out. Go ahead. You. I'm not a chef. I don't know what this apron stuff means. I went online, I read it. It's still confusing. Here's former Ram O lineman Rob Havenstein on the Miles Garrett to the Rams move.
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As good as Jared has been for the Rams over these last past two years, you know, you get to upgrade at that position. Obviously you spend a lot to do it but this kind of goes into, you know, the Rams. It's, it's such an interesting offseason, Aaron, because it's, you know, you go first round and you go draft a quarterback that, you know, you just have Rennie, NFL MVP Matthew Stafford, and then all of a sudden you make a splash play like this. And you know, my initial thought was, you know, hey, we're, the Rams are trying to win now and they're trying to win in the future and they're just trying to win.
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Yep, it's a very good organization. Now the other move that happened right after we talked about this for months and months, everybody, a couple years ago I had said on this show they should trade A.J. brown in Philadelphia. I'm not sure he fits the scheme. Jalen Hurts can't get the ball to him. He's obviously frustrated. They've got plenty of good players around him. AJ Brown deserves a great pocket quarterback. Well, he got one yesterday. He got traded to New England in the worst kept secret in the NFL. And Drake May is by far and away the best pocket quarterback and the best quarterback talent A.J. brown's ever had. So there's a lot of different angles to this. First of all, Philadelphia is going to be fine. They couldn't get the ball to him anyway. Jalen Hurts is struggled for years to get the ball to him. They have Saquon Barkley, they've got better than average tight ends. They already rebuilt their wide receiving core. Makai Lemon is going to be a big productive player for them. Devonte Smith Wicks out of Green Bay. Philadelphia is going to be fine. The roster's absolutely fantastic. So this is a trade I would have made years ago. I thought it was distracting last year. I also think, what does this do for the Patriots? Well, he changes the way everybody is going to be facing New England because when you bring in a star pitcher or a star wide receiver, you go back to Randy Moss and the Patriots. It helps the tight ends. You can't cheat, it helps the run game. So AJ Brown is going to fundamentally change the offense for New England. And I. And I think what's amazing about A.J. brown, since he entered the league, he is top four in yards and receiving touchdowns, which is unbelievable because in Tennessee they had Derrick Henry and they were the number two run percentage team in the NFL. And then he goes to Philadelphia with Saquan Barkley and they're the number two rush team in the NFL. So he has been insanely productive into run heavy offenses with what I would consider to be pretty Average pocket quarterbacks Jaylen Herz and Ryan Tanahill. So now he is the perfect icing to the New England cake. The O line there is not as good as Philadelphia, but Drake may can see over it. I think he's going to be super productive. And Vrabel loved him in Tennessee. I remember when he got moved out of Tennessee, Vrabel went to the podium and, and, and literally was beside himself. Like they didn't have an answer. And by the way, Vrabel knew he was in trouble because Tennessee, for whatever reason always feels like they're a receiver or a tight end. Shy AJ Brown left their offense. Bravel Titans never felt the same. So here's AJ Now, a Patriot on his reunion with Mike.
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I mess up in practice, he's like, get out. Yeah, like I'm like just one time,
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like, like, no, but he was just pushing me just to, to just focus
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family became his family, his family became my family.
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That's what we always say. That's all you gotta do. I mean, it's, it's interesting. A.J. brown and it's. Sports can be cruel. Like, you go, you come out of college, you work really hard, you're totally committed and you go to the worst teams. And so, you know, got. When guys like Kevin Durant, you know, are in Oklahoma City and decide I'm going to go somewhere else. Now, I don't have to agree with all of Kevin Durant's moves, but I get it. He didn't have a choice. First it was Seattle, then they moved to Oklahoma City and then he didn't get the ball enough. And then I get when players move, AJ Brown is one of those pro athletes and eventually it almost always works out that, you know, if you're great. Matt Stafford, eventually he got to the Rams, he got a great coach. It almost always works out. And A.J. brown is one of those guys where he's played on two teams, Philadelphia and Tennessee, that are heavy run teams, it would be like Steph Curry and the warriors constantly pounding the ball to the paint and not letting Steph shoot. So AJ Brown, I think could have a major spike in production and you may not get drafted to the team you want, you may not end up on your second team to the trade you want. But usually in pro sports, great players at some point. Randy Moss eventually got Brady, and now A.J. brown eventually gets Drake May and a coach that loves him and a team that needs him. So, you know, you guys out there that play fantasy football, I think, you know, I talked about this yesterday. Miles Garrett now goes to the Rams. Miles Garrett was insanely productive on a team Cleveland that trails in the fourth quarter. So teams are running and trying to kill the clock. Short passes kill the clock. Miles Garrett doesn't have a lot of opportunities in the last eight minutes of games in Cleveland. He now goes to the rams, which were second in the league last year in creating third and sevens. So Miles Garrett is going to get 75 more sack opportunities or around there over the course of a season because the Rams lead games in the fourth quarter and teams are playing catch up. And it's the same thing when, when you look at New England right now, New England, he is the perfect player. He finally gets the coach, the coordinator. I mean, if you're A.J. brown, this is a birthday present. This, this is the greatest Christmas present of all time. Jmac, we have a couple of things that are fascinating today. I, I, I don't want to give one away because right before the show I teased you on it and I sent some stuff over. Yeah, there is a story with LeBron. You better take it seriously, folks. It's fascinating and I think it's got legs. It might, it might have legs. I know you're hot on it.
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brown move. So on a day where the Rams basically solidify their place as the super bowl favorites, for sure, Eagles are a top four team in the NFC and they lose AJ Brown and get nothing in the immediate in return. It's, it's a little bit of a tough morning I think right now for Philadelphia Eagles fans. I don't, I don't think so. I think they've already, I mean, they went and got Wicks and Lemon, Devonte Smith. I think they, they're not a pass. They couldn't get him the ball anyway. I mean, it's, we see this all the time in sports where there's a really talented player, but he's a bad scheme fit. He just doesn't work for the team. And then you see him go elsewhere and you're like, oh, yeah, he's a better fit here. By the way, Saquon Barkley in New York was a very good player, but they had a battle line. They often trailed in the second half of games. So the Giants had to throw to play catch up. So Saquon Barkley was a bad fit in New York. Philadelphia leads games because they have a better team in the second half. So they depend on Saquon Barkley to kill the clock. Better offensive line. So like Saquon Barkley is a great example. We knew he was good in New York. Then he goes to Philadelphia and you're like, holy hell, A.J. brown, we know he's great. Watch his numbers with Drake may explode. Watch that. And also if you look at the afc, he's in a division with Josh Allen. You're going to get in, you're going to get into some track meets in that you're not going to be able to stop Josh Allen. What do you have to do? You have to throw the ball. So I think it just, it happens a lot. You see it a lot in the NFL where there's a really good player, but he's just in the wrong spot and he's very good, but what he really is is great in a bad scheme fit. So they quantum. New York is a prime example. So the Eagles got to two Super Bowls with A.J. brown. Will they get to another one in the next three years? Well, who knows? I mean a lot of it's health. I don't know if Jalen Hurts. Remember, Jalen Hurts is going into year four of a five year deal. They got him a new offensive coordinator, they got A.J. brown out of the building and there was some drama. Jalen Hurts after this season may not be there. He won't be if he's a one and done playoff quarterback like last year because Philadelphia moved off Doug Peterson, who won a trophy. Carson Wentz was in the MVP. Philadelphia moves off successful people. Chip Kelly went 10 and 6, 10 and 6 had a winning record and they got rid of him. So I mean, I don't know if Jalen Hurts will be around after this season. I think there's real questions coming up next. Draymond Green says, I'm not impressed with the Knicks. The question is, is he wrong? Next, the Herd.
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Listen to Saigon on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome in hour two. It's the herd yesterday. Yeah, I was talking about this to start the show today where the NFL makes it much easier to trade. And I think fans love trades. I know I do. I was freaking out yesterday. You know, the NFL's got red zone, the NBA's got red tape. You know, aprons and, you know, pick swaps and salaries have to match. Here we are, Nick. Spurs about to play and the NFL steals their universe because trading's easy. And I, I've always thought the NBA, and I've said this for years, gets too worked up on tanking. The teams that want to do it, do it. You know, it's like getting worked up over speeding people speed. Like, like speeding tickets can't be the be all, end all of law enforcement. Obviously, you don't want somebody driving 90 through a school zone, but get over it. People speed. People are not going to stay in the within the speed limit. And unless they're in a neighborhood or by a school district, it can't be that big of a priority. If a team's tanking, they're doing it because they want to get better. I like bad teams wanting to get better. So I, I just loved all the trades. And we've had it used to be the NBA felt like the trade league. Now it's the NFL. So I just here to me are the top 10 moves so far in the off season. I'm not even including Trey Hendrickson to the Ravens or Malik Willis to the Dolphins and I think those are tremendous moves. So number 10 is Kenneth Walker. Now Walker is really good and had an unbelievable playoff run and he is an area of need for the Chiefs, but he only averaged 60 yards a game in the regular season and wasn't always their red zone back. And he is a physical back that gets dinged up. So again the postseason, Kenneth Walker knew his contract situation. He played banged up and he was tremendous in the Super Bowl. But there's some injury stuff to be concerned about. I still like the move a lot for Kansas City. Number nine would be Mike Evans to the Niners. Again. Why is he this low? Injuries are an issue. I do think he's a grown up and adds stability to a receiving core that's been high maintenance between IUK and debo. You know, you got Kittle coming off an injury. Christian McCaffrey, another massive workload. I like Mike Evans a lot. He's a Hall of Fame player. But again, like Kenneth Walker, there is a, there is an injury reality that we have to, you know, wrap our brains around. Number eight. I think Kyler Murray to the Vikings is going to work. I don't think it's going to be 14 wins like Sam Darnold, but I could see it being 10. I think they have an elite coaching staff. I've told you, I think Brian Flores, best defensive coordinator in football. I love Kevin o' Connell and I, I think they have good players. Left tackle, wide receiver, running back. I think they, I think they're really well run. I do now they have a new gm but. And I also think sometimes people in life need a fresh start. I can't wait to watch this. Number seven. Don't tell me Cleveland's terrible. Don't tell me Cleveland was a big loser yesterday. Cleveland has drafted so well the last several years. Jared versus the Browns. You get a cost controlled pass rusher. A cost controlled elite pass rusher. Those don't exist very much in the NFL. Now you got Mason Graham, Spencer Fanow, KC Concepcion, Harold Fannin, Quinshon Judkins, Jared Verse, Carson Schlesinger. Cleveland's got young talent everywhere. I love this move for Cleveland. Number six, DJ Moore to the Buffalo Bills. Listen, it basically it allows the rest of Buffalo's pass catchers to play complimentary roles. Coleman, Shakir, Dawson, Knox Kincaid. And that's what they are. They're. They're number two outlets. And so it's like getting an ace pitcher. Everybody moves down in the rotation. D.J. moore, smart, veteran, durable, tough. I think Chicago's going to miss him more than people think. Again, I'm not putting him in in in the Jamar Chase class, but he's a pro who plays through pain. He's durable. He doesn't miss starts and I think the Bears are going to miss him a little bit. A number five, Trent McDuffie. A physical corner. He's going to create fumbles. He's going to get sacks. He's just a great player who's very okay tackling and mixing it up. A physical corner. He also like Walker to the Chiefs. He's in his prime and he addresses a massive need. They were bad at corner last year, so he was worth the first round pick. Number number four, I would say Jalen Waddle to the Broncos. Everybody always talks about his, his, you know, durability concerns. He's missed seven games in five years. I don't worry about it. And he gives them a number one receiver now. I think Cortland Sutton is underrated, but we have to be honest about what the NFL has become. It's become more of a wide receiver league. I used to call him icing on the cake. It does matter. I mean, JSN is a big reason the Seahawks got to the super bowl and Pukinaku and Devonte Adams are a big reason the Rams were in the NFC championship. So I think Jaden Jalen Waddle is going to be a big deal, especially with Sean Payton's play design. I think he's going to be excellent. Number three, A.J. brown to the Patriots. This guy has been hyper productive with Ryan Tannehill and Jalen Hurts. When Tennessee was the number two rush percentage offense in the league and Philadelphia with Saquon is the number two rush offense. So he's basically played in run centric offenses with quarterbacks. We don't love throwing the ball down the field. And now he gets Drake. May fantasy football guys draft AJ Brown. Number two most underrated pick in the off season. Tyler Linderbaum to the Raiders. I have told all my GM friends, why don't you guys value centers? They set the protection. I mean there's three centers in this league that are amazing. You know, Creed Humphrey, obviously Kansas City, Linder Baumgart. For a rookie quarterback, they had the worst rated O line or near the bottom in the league. I think he is a massive get for the Raiders. Stabilizes that interior. O line. Number one. Five straight seasons with 14 sacks. Miles Garrett. I've been talking about this since the trade yesterday. What's really interesting is Cleveland was a bad team that rarely led in the fourth quarter. So think about how productive Garrett was with very few sack opportunities under seven minutes left. Teams that played the Browns were running the clock out. Three step drop. Get it out. Secure reception. Now the rams probably lead 13 of their 17 regular season games in the fourth, and the Rams were second in the NFL in creating third and sevens. So the sack opportunities are going to go through the roof for Miles Garrett. When you like I always say with Max Crosby. How the hell does Max Crosby get that many sacks? The Raiders are getting blown out fourth quarter. Teams are running the clock out. He doesn't even have opportunities to get sacked.
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What's up fam? It's Isaiah Thomas and I'm CJ Toledano and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luka and Austin Reed and finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before and he knows without Luka and Austin Reaves, I gotta manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I Think Joker's gonna be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed, he has to guard Julius Randle, and then he has to give us everything he gives us on a night to night basis on offense. And when it's friend stop by like Quinton Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing, that man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers while he got the ball. Like you go through a training camp with that. Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Oh, yeah. Get your ass up and down the court and you gonna get the ball. So listen to point game on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Saigon, the story of my family and of the country that shaped us.
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The United States will not stand by and allow any power, however great, take over another country.
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From iHeart podcasts, Saigon, please allow me to introduce Joseph Sherman.
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Listen to Saigon on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Randy Moss and Edelman did overlap. Randy was there first. I said Edelman was. Randy was there first. And then for a year and a half, Edelman joined the Randy Moss Patriots. And let's, let's bring Julian on because I'm, I'm not saying A.J. brown is Randy Moss, but I will say this, that A.J. brown with the run centric Titans and the run centric Eagles has been crazy top four productive. So I think he's going to pop in New England. But let me ask you about that, because you were there with Randy Moss. When you have a star number one receiver in the receiver room, during practice, during media scrums, like how does it change the temperature of the room? You were, you were young, you weren't established yet, but you were watching. You're an observer, you're self aware. How did it change the temperature
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you know, when I was a young football player, and you step in a receiver room with Randy Moss, generational receiver, you also have Wes Welker, who was an elite player at that time, but with. With Randy specifically, everyone just straightens up. Like when you're a young football player, you sit in that meeting. Randy didn't have to say anything, but you almost didn't want to let him down because you saw how his practice was, you saw the examples that he was given. And anytime that you had an example as a young football player, if the coaches put you on coaching take, you'd like, look over at Randy because you wanted his approval because he's that big of aura in that room. So, you know, A.J. i think this is going to be an awesome addition for them. By no means am I calling him Randy. I think they're different types of players. But when you get a guy like AJ Brown, instantly everyone's job becomes easier in that room.
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Yeah. And you, you know, Tom Brady's a friend of yours. It. Do you feel sometimes if you're a receiver, when you have a star player, obviously the quarterback, I mean, Tom loved throwing to Randy is. Can you feel sometimes. Do other players, tight ends, receivers, get lost when you have a superstar receiver in the room?
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I think I was always on teams that were mentally tough enough to do what was best for the team. As long as we were winning and we had an opportunity to win, and the guy you're bringing in the room gives you an opportunity to win. Every single week, guys swallow their pride. At least where I was, you know, that was. That was a testament to all, you know, the upper division, bringing in guys that wanted to win. So I think you can get lost in the sauce, but if you're getting lost in the sauce and you're playing in a second super bowl in three years or two years, I think you'll be all right.
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So I saw the Miles Garrett move yesterday, and I always felt in New England, they didn't do this, and I wish they would have. Maybe they did, but they. They never. I never felt like they said, okay, Tom's getting older. Let's stack the roster for Tom. Kind of. Bill did what Bill did, and it was always team first. The Rams are like, listen, Matt's older. We're getting McDuffie, we're getting Garrett, we're getting Devonte Adams last year. We're building everything. It's almost like the warriors with Curry. We're building everything around Matt's timeline. They love verse. We're going to let him go three draft picks. I like when you get an older quarterback going for it, it can backfire, but I don't feel like that was ever the New England way. Were you okay with giving up three picks and a great young player in Jared Verse for an older player in Miles Garrett?
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Well, I think this is pretty standard protocol for less need and what he does. And it only works for one specific reason. When you go out and get the big free agents like they did six, seven years ago with Matthew Stafford after going to a Super bowl, it only works if you draft guys and they work out on your team. The Kyron Williams in the fifth round, the Pukinaku in the fourth round, the. The hitting on your Jared Verse in the first round. Who builds capital, builds value enough for you to go out and get a guy like Miles Garrett. You have to hit in the draft for this whole thing to work. I mean, we can look at other teams and say, well, they bring in guys and it doesn't really work out. It's because they're not building through the draft as well. So seeing Les need go out and buy these guys at the right positions that they feel that they need to go out and win a Super bowl, it's almost like deja vu to me.
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You know, you look at the high end players on, on the Rams, Stafford's going to be a Hall of Famer. Miles going to be a Hall of Famer. Puka, Devonte Adams, you just start, look, McDuffie has a chance to be a Hall of Fame player. What is practice like? Go to the most talented Patriots team you were ever on when you've got guys, a half a dozen guys that are hall of Famers. Is practice more fun? Is it more competitive? Is it more intense? Because they brought in to a great team, they brought in two defensive players who may be in Canton. What does it make practice like?
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You know, if I was on the offense with LA Rams, which I assure you, they're all on their text groups right now saying, we're going to win the Super Bowl. It brings a confidence in the building when you bring in guys like that. For us, it was DARRELL Revis in 14. You know, we go to the AFC championship in 13. Aqib gets hurt, we lose, we were kind of banged up. And then we bring in Revis the very next year. He not only brought a confidence to us because of the player, he's shown that he was in the league, but every day in practice I got to go against him.
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It made me a better player every
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Day in practice, that left tackle, that right tackle for the Rams is going to have to go against Miles Garrett. That secondary is going to. Or that the receivers are going to have to go against that secondary with McDuffie. It's going to sharpen this iron on iron type mentality, which we always used to say. The practices are always so good because we practice so hard. When you have great players on both sides of the ball, it just creates a confidence. It makes work so fun. I mean, I remember when we brought in Antonio Brown for those three weeks or two weeks, I don't think a ball hit the ground literally in practice for four or five days. We had elite practices. Philip Dorsett had to raise his game because Antonio came in and it put a fire up under everyone's bum. You know, Flash Gordon was making plays. Everyone was playing to a whole nother level because Antonio came in and there's only so many balls and you know he's going to get his. So everyone's got to bring their A game to try to get the ball in practice. So I think when you get these type of superstar players, it ignites teams because it's just like, you look at the team, you. You look at each other, and you're like, there's no excuse. We. We have an opportunity to literally go out, win every single game. We strap them up this year.
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So. Yeah, and the other thing is Miles Garrett in Cleveland, the Browns trailed in the fourth quarter, whereas the Rams.
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Every week.
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Yeah, where the Rams lead in the fourth quarter. So he's going to have far more opportunities to come off the edge, screaming off the edge.
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Mario Rivera right there. Maybe the closer. He's gonna be the closer.
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So when Tom Brady retired, I don't think he knew it going into the season. When you retired, I don't think you knew it necessarily going into the season. Aaron Rodgers has already said, this is it. This is my last year. And I thought he played pretty well last year. But it is interesting to think about that. Like. Like it's one thing to go into a season and then week 13, you're like, man, I'm not recovering from this high ankle sprain. Like, this is it. I'm slower. I'm watching the film. Do you worry a little bit that Aaron has already made his mind up, this is it, that you don't sit in the pocket as long. You're not going to take that shot. You'll practice hard, you'll be a good teammate. But it does, you know, you don't want to break stuff Heading out the door in, you know, 20 weeks. That's the only downside to Aaron already making his mind up, because I do think it gives clarity to the Steelers. They know, okay, we get one great year with Aaron. But do you worry a little bit that if you're talking about it, you're thinking about it, it affects your play?
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For the majority, yes. For Aaron, no. I mean, for all we know, he could have went to the mountainside, did the Ayahuasca thing and had a vision where he's going to have a full send year where he's going to leave everything on the field. And it wouldn't surprise you. Last year he played significantly better than the year before off the Achilles with the Jets. I think he's going into another this year with more weapons, a better offensive line, a little more continuity, and it's essentially like having a coach on the field that's going to get you in the right play every single time. And when you got guys that don't want to get hit, like when we. When Brady was getting, you know, the later parts of his career, you know, they played so much football. I remember there was a specific game in the AFC Championship, we couldn't block Von Miller, so Tom got rid of the ball before Von Miller ever got to him. And he slid the protection to him every single time, or he ran the ball away from him every single time. And he wasn't gonna. And these veteran quarterbacks, he got maybe three or four opportunities and he knew he was gonna get that. The veteran quarterback has the discipline to sit there and potentially lose the game. Doing that kind of stuff, nickeling and diming you and making the other team beat you. So, like with Aaron, nothing surprises me. I think he's. He's in his own little category. I've become, you know, when. When guys get this old, it's almost like I become more of a fan of them now because they're doing things that are, you know, that are so hard. And Aaron, he still can throw it. So I'm excited to watch him. And this is going to be fun. And I don't even necessarily think this is his last year. For all we know, he could probably come back and play next year. We don't know. That's the unpredictable, unpredictable thing about Aaron Rodgers.
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Finally, I would start Mendoza, Fernando Mendoza, Week 1, for two reasons. He played a lot of college football. He's a completely dedicated kid. They open with Miami, probably the worst roster in the league. At home. It's a winnable game, and I love the idea that Tyler Linderbaum, a smart, veteran center, going to call the protection, he's going to be, you know, that's a great, great first thing they did in Chicago. Ben Johnson went and got Drew Dahlman from Atlanta. I'm getting Caleb Williams, a respected, smart veteran center, call the protections. Take it away from the kid. I would start him early. Do you think having been in a locker room with a lot of guys, including yourself, who walk into this league, do you think it's just too much to ask a kid, Fernando Mendoza, kid you're starting? It is a lot to ask, but I think Linder Baum, it's the Dolphins, he played a lot of college football. I. I'm not that worried about it. Would you be?
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I wouldn't start him right away. And that's because you have Kirk Cousins, a guy that's played in Clint Kubiak system, that knows how to operate in that system. And there's so much value to a young football player sitting there watching a quarterback talk with an offensive coach in the meeting on how to watch film, how he asks questions. There's so much value in that. I mean, I specifically remember Jimmy G. He comes in when TB was, you know, on his vacation, that for the first four in that post, whatever gate that we had, and he came in and it ran smoothly because he got to sit and watch Tom every day. How he Talked to Josh McDaniels, how Tom talked to, you know, the receivers, how he asked the question, why did this look not work? There's so much value to that. And it gets into. That's one another thing with the expectation of the first overall pick. You know, you throw them out in the fire and you have a very capable quarterback and Kirk Cousins behind you. That's there. And then maybe he gets his welcome to the NFL moment. Week one, week two, there's going to be one of those moments you can't pull them and then bring Kurt. Kurt back in. It may ruin the confidence. You don't know. I mean, we all see Fernando and how he handles the media and the maturity is. I mean, you want this guy to do well. We're all falling for this guy to do well. But, you know, I think with. With who they got over there, you know, tv and if he's given any kind of influence, we all heard how he likes quarterbacks to learn under someone, let them go out and do their thing, let them learn from someone. And I think that's how I would, I would go about it as well, by the way.
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I Just saw this came over Mike Reese. He said, A.J. brown chose number one. He's going to wear number one instead of number 11. He wanted to respect Julian Edelman even though he had Edelman's blessing. And it brings him back to his roots. Did you know he was gonna do that?
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I didn't. I gave him the blessing. But that's pretty dang cool. We've had a cool relationship because, you know, it's been pretty, it's been pretty publicized that he's a, he was a Patriots fan growing up and he hit me up one day and I sent him a jersey. He asked for a jersey and he's. It was pretty cool. I mean, you got a superstar football player in the league right now that, you know he's still a football fan. And you know, with that, with that attitude, it already shows you that he's buying into the system, he's buying into the Patriot way. He's got Bravel over there. He's excited. I mean, seriously, everyone's talking about, oh, look at his off the field antics with the other team to this. Which was very similar to how Stefan Diggs was. Diggs was when he came to the Patriots. He's got a motivation, he's got an alpha coach that's gonna, you know, know how to coach him. He's got Josh McDaniels. I'm so excited for this. People are sleeping on Josh McDaniels first year with like receivers. Randy Moss had 23 touchdowns. Brandon Marshall had like 118 catches. First year receivers with Josh McDaniels. Look out.
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Yeah, you and I agree, look out. I think he's going to be 100 catch guy and a 12 touchdown guy. I really do. I think he's going to be an unbelievable player and his versatility, I mean
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you could put him in a whole lot of areas because the Patriots, you know, they can get in that 13 personnel and your one receiver out there is A.J. brown. You can manipulate the coverage, you can put teams in certain coverages and he's a smart enough football player where we've seen him play in the slot. You've seen him play at the X. Josh can have a great plan for him. It's going to be fun to watch and hopefully everyone can stay healthy.
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See you. Jules, good seeing you as always, buddy.
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Good to see you guys.
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Yeah, I think he's going to be. They had some video there of him at practice. He is just going to, you know, it. Also it's funny because like Philadelphia is a hard place to play. Like the sports talk radio is loud, the fans are crazy. You got Dom, the security guard, you got Sirianni. Half the fans love him, half don't. I mean it's just, it's. Philadelphia is a loud city. New England, the Patriots, for all their success and I mean Boston's a big media market, but they kind of hide in the New England region. Like it's just, you know, the media is. Because they've been so successful, it's pretty supportive. You've got a great coach who's proven. Yeah, I mean for all of the success is. It's kind of a business environment. The fans are, they're not. I mean again, they love their team. But I always think Philadelphia is a whole different animal than like a New England. Even New York I. New England's, you know, ownership, front office coach. Now you got an adult playing quarterback. I think A.J. brown, I don't, I don't see any issues. I think it's off and running week one. I think he's going to be a Pro Bowler, first team All Pro. I really do. I think he's going to be unbelievable in Chicago. It's the herd. Wasabi is purpose built to free your business from skyrocketing storage costs and fees from the big guys. Wasabi is the go to provider for professional and collegiate sports teams around the world. Check out Wasabi's AI enabled intelligent media storage. Wasabi Air to the industry's only cloud storage service with triple protection against cybercriminals. Wasabi driving innovation in data storage for up to 80% less than the other guys. Try for free@wasabi.com or Wasabi Hot Cloud Storage, proud partner of the Volume Podcast Network. Here's the truth. You could literally be adored by everyone and then come home and still get completely ignored by your own cat. It's classic cat behavior. But new Shiba Premium Puree is a
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