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Colin Cowherd
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LaVar Arrington
Aprimolast yeah, being a football player with plaque psoriasis can be challenging. My skin gets flaky and itchy, so my doctor told me about a pill otla. It works from the inside out.
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Jonas Knox
Otis is a prescription medicine used to treat adult patients with plaque psoriasis for whom phototherapy or systemic therapy is appropriate. Otezla can help you get clearer skin after just four months. Dallas is an OTESLA patient that has been compensated for his time. Don't use OTESLA if you're allergic to it. Get medical help right away if you have trouble breathing or swallowing, swelling of the face, lips, tongue, throat or arms, severe diarrhea, nausea or vomiting, depression, suicidal thoughts or weight loss can happen. Tell your doctor if any of these occur and if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts.
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LaVar Arrington
Talking to my doctor about a pill was a total game changer.
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Colin Cowherd
If you're struggling with plaque psoriasis. Talk to your doctor about Otzla. Visit otezla.com for more information or call 1-844-4-OTE for prescribing info, info about cost and more. Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast.
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Jonas Knox
It's the Herd, fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Colin. You can find us as always on the iHeartRadio app. You can listen to us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country on this Monday in which people have opened up the law offices of Bitch and Moan to discuss what the f that was that the NBA rolled out during All Star Weekend.
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LaVar Arrington
They was, they was tweaking, I mean tweaking NBA All Star Weekend weekend.
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Jonas Knox
It's just, you know, people not real, not real thrilled with the, the current format or whatever this, this format was this past weekend. Yet a dunk contest featuring a guy who's played, you know, 14 seconds in the NBA win it again. You had whatever this rinky dink circus tent pop up event that was supposed to be the All Star game show back up. And people are not happy about it and are not thrilled with the content and the view that they got var over the All Star weekend.
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LaVar Arrington
I mean I was thrilled cause I didn't have an experience. Cause I didn't view it. Yeah.
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Jonas Knox
If you want me to break down who had the best dunk of the night on Saturday?
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LaVar Arrington
I watched it. I watched the highlights of it all. But to watch all of it, you know why it doesn't have that type of mass appeal? Because let me tell you something, them dunks were crazy good. They're crazy good dunks, man. And that used to be the highlight of somewhat of a, of an NBA season. That was what you wanted. You waited for. You were excited. Who's going to be in the dunk contest? Who's doing it this year? And you would learn, like you said, somebody who doesn't even play very many minutes. You would learn about new people and they would become celebrities. I'll never forget when Kenny Skywalker won the dunk contest doing like, like aerodynamic, like acrobatic, like, you know, like a ballet. He was doing ballet in the air when he was dunking like Kenny Skywalker Wasn't like a dope basketball player for the Knicks. But we found out we learned about who he was because of the way he was dunking. Like it just built a lot of. It built a lot of brands. And in the NBA back in the day, like in the late, you know, mid-80s, early 90s, you know 90s, like it was All Star weekend was a thing. And I think, I think the NBA is suffering from the same exact thing that the NFL is suffering from as it applies to their All Star weekend. Which is what is the relevance of, of these weekends. What can you do to make these weekends more relevant than what they are? And I don't. I think it's because of technology and all of these different things that's going on. Fast paced technology. I think it's very, it is a riddle that the NFL or the NBA has yet to figure out.
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Jonas Knox
So the way they laid it out was it's four different teams. You had rising stars, you had just like whatever the TNT crew had their teams and to break down the different categories and they would all meet up and then they would go into the final just Team Shaq, Kenny, Chuck Candice part like all that stuff, it was just a fiasco. Like there's just, there's too much going on. It was not all that entertaining. It wasn't funny. Like they tried their hardest to try and add comedy to it. It wasn't funny. And so Draymond Green who is, you know, slowly becoming better and better and better and his media career after he's done play it' blossoming after his career is over, he's going to be, you know, sitting with, you know, the, the great medium, the great former players to ever do it post career when it comes to the media. He spoke last night on TNT and gave a brutally honest critique of this new format.
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LaVar Arrington
You work all year to be an all Star and you get to play up to 40 and then you're done. This is so unfair to Victor Wembayama who just took this game really seriously. Shea Gilgames Alexander who just took this game really seriously. When you talk about chasing after the points, Melo Kobe and all these guys who've had great scoring nights, they don't get the opportunity to do that with this game. Also we can watch some rising stars. We about to watch the Olympic team. Now we get the treat of watching the Olympic team play against the U19 team. Come on, what are we doing? Scale of 1 to 10, your thoughts of the format? 10 being the best. Yes. A zero sucks. Well, at least he's honest. And that's, and that's a fair, honest assessment.
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Jonas Knox
You know what I think the real problem is with the NBA. I think the problem is the timing of it all. That. Why would you have. Because, listen, you mentioned the NFL. All Star games minus Major League Baseball are awful.
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LaVar Arrington
They're awful.
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Jonas Knox
Like the Pro bowl looks like an airing of double dare from 20 years ago. It's like you're waiting for some guy to slide down a chocolate slide and pull a flag out of a nose. It's awful. They've, they've thought they were doing to try and protect players in the Pro Bowl. It's terrible. It's not so much that the All Star Game sucks. It's the timing of it all. The NFL season just ended. There are people that are looking for things to watch and the NBA throws out this instead of, hey, why don't we maybe do the All Star Game? I don't know, like, do it the same weekend of the Pro Bowl. Do it earlier. Like, let's, let's, let's move it up earlier so that, that way when the NFL season is, we're putting on primetime marquee matchups. You want to throw Celtics thunder on because they're two of the best teams in the league, that's fine. You want to throw the Lakers with Luka on. But do that and present your product timing wise in a better. Imagine if you're an NBA fan and you're like, all right, I'm going to give this NFL a try and the first thing you see is the Pro Bowl. You'll be looking around go, what the f is this? If you're the NBA. I don't know why they refuse to counter program. I don't know why they refuse to acknowledge you're not even the second most popular sport anymore. You're third behind college football. Why don't you, like, adjust your timing? We've talked about, you know, start the season on Christmas Day and move it back so you're not competing with the NFL during. And college football in the World Series and major, all the other stuff that goes on in the fall, move your season back. In this case, this feels like an easy fix. Just have your All Star Game sooner, whatever you want to roll out. But the first weekend out of the gate with no football, this is the product. You present it like, it doesn't make any sense to me because it's an awful watch. And now all the conversation is about, man, the league is broken. It needs to do this. It needs to do that instead of, we could be talking about great games, great matchups, like, like make it a marquee moment to where NFL season's over, we'll take it from here. And instead they rolled out crap.
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LaVar Arrington
Say the saddest part of the commentary, outside of it being true, is, is that the, the dunks were phenomenal. They weren't just good, they were phenomenal. And nobody cared. You know who cared? The people who are probably upset right now that I said nobody cared. And that's like the, the, the niche portion of basketball fanatics. You have some basketball purists who love to judge anybody who doesn't, which you have that in every sport, but those are the people who care. What I don't understand is, again, how do you allow for such a disconnect to take place on something that has been such a major part of our American culture to slip into non relevance? I just don't get it. Like the three point contest, people like watching it. That's something that people will watch it. It was something that it mattered. But make no mistake about it, you enjoyed the game because you knew in the second half they were all going to play and they were going to play hard and they were going to want to win the game and the dunk contest, like that's what it was. And I just, I, I asked myself, when, when I, when we were coming into the topic, I asked myself, is this just a symptom of me? Like old heads are always the ones that say, oh, it was so much better when it, when I was coming up. It was, it was so different. Da, da da. These days, you guys, you young, young bucks don't know anything about, you know what, what it's all about this. That is so different now. Am I, am I take, like I gotta take a step back and say, am I coming at it from the wrong lens, from the wrong perspective? And I looked, I looked at social media because social media can now give you an idea of how you're feeling and what the algorithms are. And because if it's something, that's something, it's going to be there, it's going to pop up, it's going like you're making fun of Jello. You're making fun, you're making fun of his song. That's one of the highlights of the whole deal is making fun of Jello being the main, that's your main performer. What's there to make fun of one, one song. Like it's not even like the dude got an album out. Like the dude has one song that they may go viral. And he not even really a real performer. He love swear. Like I'm sitting there, I'm like, you did not need all this gimmicky stuff. And. And it made me take a step back and say to myself, are we now looking at an NBA? That is a personality less NBA. That's what it may. My ultimate. My ultimate thought and my conclusion was, do we have an NBA now? Like, do you know the personality of Victor Wembanyama? Do you know his personality?
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Jonas Knox
Yeah, well, he reads books before games, which.
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LaVar Arrington
That's a no. Do you know his personality?
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Jonas Knox
You know.
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LaVar Arrington
You know why we like Anthony Ant man so much? Because it's the first time we get a pulse of somebody having a freaking personality that. You know why we like Draymond Green? Because we get a pulse of what a person. Do you know who Draymond Green is? Do you know how he is?
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Jonas Knox
Sure.
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LaVar Arrington
Exactly, exactly. Steph. Steph Curry. Relatively obscure. You know, he could shoot the ball. You know, he's a good dude, does things in the community. You know, his wife. But do we really know his personality? You have those type of personalities from back in the day, but it's like they're like not. They're not the A list group of celebrities. That's. You knew who Michael Jordan was. In fact, Michael Jordan told all of us to come fly with him. And every one of us thought we could fly. And that's why we still be wearing this. I got. I don't have no Jordans on today, but I had some on yesterday. Oh, man, I had some on yesterday. And I'd be damned if I don't have Jordans on more often than.
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Jonas Knox
Got some eyes on.
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LaVar Arrington
Right. Bottom line, new ballots. We knew who Dominique Wilkins was. We were all trying to be the human highlight film. We all were. You knew who Spud Web was. He was the more quiet one. He was like that quiet one. But you had so many personalities. Charles Barkley telling you to f off. I'm not your. Your role model. I'm not your role model. I'm not your role model. I think what has happened with the NBA more specifically, which you shouldn't lose because they don't wear helmets. You don't have to battle people not knowing who you are and what you look like. You're six foot, whatever, looking like an avatar. You gotta have. There has to be more. More established personalities. Like throwing guns up in the club, throwing ones strippers. Like, you can't have John Morant, who is one of Your biggest names and dopest players. That's how, that's how we know you. That's how we know you. Like that's Jason Williams back in the day. And he's like the degenerate of all the superstars. But even then you knew who Jason Williams was, personality wise. Because it was a point to make sure that the personalities were getting consumed by the consumer. You're selling the game. We know who LeBron James is. We know his personality. We know who he is. We. He drives it because his personality and us knowing him, us going on this NBA journey with LeBron makes sense. How many players in today's NBA can we say that about? When? You could say that about each team. Each team, if you were a Pistons fan, it was Vinnie the Microwave, it was Isaiah Thomas, it was Joe Dumars, it was Rick Mahorn. And you knew they were. Because they had, they all had Bill Lambert, they all had their, their personalities that you love that made them the bad boys. If it was the New York Knicks, from Oakley to Mason to Ewing to Starks to, to Mark Jackson, you knew who these people were by market. And their personalities drove the game and they mattered. From the Celtics to, you name it, the, the Rockets, they all had their different personalities. The Portland Trailblazers, the Indiana Pacers, sitting there choking that Reggie, Reggie Miller, we got to know Reggie Miller. He's sitting there choking himself out to Spike Lee. There were so many great moments that built a relationship between the players, the teams and the fans.
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Jonas Knox
It's unrecognizable.
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LaVar Arrington
You don't have comparison to that. I mean, am I off on this, do we? There's. That's a disconnect. That's a disconnect. Like what's, what is the connection to the player? What is the connection to the players, as in, in general? And what's the connection to the team? Where has that gone? Because I think in a way largely in part because of fantasy football and all this stuff going on with gambling. I think it's decentralized football as well. I think that's a large part of the problem that we have in football at this point now as well, is that decentralizing of what the fan could really focus in on. And that connection to the player and that connection to the team, I think it's been, I think it's been removed.
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Jonas Knox
Well, I mean, the good news is the All Star weekend's over.
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LaVar Arrington
So there you go.
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Jonas Knox
At least there's that.
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LaVar Arrington
Hopefully this is the last time we gotta talk about it.
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Jonas Knox
Like at least. At least there's that. So. So if you are not a fan of the All Star weekend, congratulations. It's Monday, it's over. So zero sucks where you Draymond. It is the Herd here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox sitting in for Collins. So we are going to have some Herdline news coming up later on this hour with Greg Tuohy, starring Greg Tuohy. We'll be doing that throughout the course of the show as well, too, as we take you all the way up until 3pm Eastern Time, noon Pacific here. Coming up next, though, we've got some more details as to why one move was made in the NFL and it is really getting juicy. Somebody really trying to get their side of the story out there. You'll hear those. That's next.
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LaVar Arrington
Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.
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Jonas Knox
Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis. And together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app.
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LaVar Arrington
Why should you listen to Covino and Rich?
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Jonas Knox
We talk about everything, life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking.
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LaVar Arrington
About the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture, stories that, well, other shows don't seem.
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Jonas Knox
To have the time to discuss.
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LaVar Arrington
And the fact that we've been friends.
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Jonas Knox
For the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right?
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LaVar Arrington
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Jonas Knox
We like to get you involved, too.
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LaVar Arrington
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Jonas Knox
I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and.
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LaVar Arrington
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Jonas Knox
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
With pro tight end Dallas Goddard to share his journey with plaque psoriasis and how he tackles his symptoms with otesla.
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LaVar Arrington
Aprimolast yeah, being a football player with plaque psoriasis can be challenging. My skin gets flaky and itchy, so my doctor told me about a pill o Tesla. It works from the inside.
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Jonas Knox
OTLA is a prescription medicine used to treat adult patients with plaque psoriasis for whom phototherapy or systemic therapy is appropriate. Otezla can help you get clearer skin after just four months. Dallas is an OTLA patient that has been compensated for his time. Don't use OTLA if you're allergic to it. Get medical help right away if you have trouble breathing or swallowing, swelling of the face, lips, tongue, throat or arms, severe diarrhea, nausea or vomiting, depression, suicidal thoughts or weight loss can happen. Tell your doctor if any of these occur and if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts.
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LaVar Arrington
Talking to my doctor about a pill was a total game changer.
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Colin Cowherd
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Jonas Knox
It's the Herd, FOX Sports Radio LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for calling. Coming up here in about 20 minutes from now in the Herdline News, we are going to talk about what the future of the NFL could look like, and it's involving somebody who might have had a little too much to drink. So we Will get into that for you again. Lee Dillat, a little over 20 minutes from now. No, no Lee, no Brady.
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LaVar Arrington
Oh, just you and I. Yeah, man.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah. Just grinding.
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LaVar Arrington
Just you and me.
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Jonas Knox
Greg Tuohy. Chris. Perfect's here. Yeah. Yeah.
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LaVar Arrington
Ratatouille. Yeah, yeah.
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Jonas Knox
On a holiday. Just grinding away here.
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LaVar Arrington
That's a good guy to grind it.
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Jonas Knox
All right, so here we go. This is. God, this is so much fun. Aaron Rodgers and the jets are no longer together. All right? They broke up. All right? We're going to treat this like it's, you know, a celebrity breakup. So they're no longer together. Who? Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. Yeah. Believe it or not.
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LaVar Arrington
Now, were they ever together now, or did they track.
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Jonas Knox
There's some fun developments on this. Albert Breer, our buddy who comes on with us every week on 2 Pros and a cup of Joe, he said the following in his MMQB column. Quote, the reality was that the jets desire to move on was about them and not Rogers and timelines that don't match up. New York was looking at a deliberate reimagination of its football operation, which was going to be tough to marry up with a quarterback playing for this year alone. There was no ultimatum on discussing Aaron's outside media appearances, but there was a discussion about it. So that from Albert Breer, who just kind of said, listen, this whole thought that the Athletic came out with that he can't do the Pat McAfee show and they were trying to set some.
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LaVar Arrington
Rules and all that, that was propaganda. Yeah.
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Jonas Knox
Not exactly the. Exactly how it played out, but this is why this is hilarious.
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LaVar Arrington
Okay, Talk about it.
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Jonas Knox
Steve Helling and Ryan Dunleavy of New York Post reported that Rogers, quote, pleaded with the jets to keep him and that in the final conversation with the team's new regime, he, quote, aggressively urged the franchise to give him another year or even two. In the end, he reportedly accepted the decision. Quote, like a man going to the gallows.
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LaVar Arrington
What a bunch of.
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Jonas Knox
What a bunch of crap.
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LaVar Arrington
Write a novel. Get out of sports reporting. Write a novel.
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Jonas Knox
It's just so gallows. It's so bad. But. But what it does do is illustrate the point that Aaron Rodgers was right the entire time because he told everybody, there's too many leaks in the organization. There's too much of this stuff going on. He's been out the door for 20 minutes and already you've got three different reports about what happened and what transpired, none of which have come from him.
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LaVar Arrington
All from the jets that you know of.
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Jonas Knox
You think he he's to portray himself as walking to the gallows with the New York Post.
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LaVar Arrington
No like. But. But the idea of putting something out there to make him more of a sympathetic figure could be a form of subterfuge for him.
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Jonas Knox
That organization is a diaper fire, and it's not.
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LaVar Arrington
I mean, that's what I think. That's what it also ultimately comes down to is whether some of it was Rogers or not. You're still looking at an organization that. That runs it in a toxic manner. And I always reference back. I lived in it, I worked in it. And I understand what that type of environment does to the players, to the people that work in the building, from the people who clean up the locker rooms to who takes care of the field, to the receptionist at the front, to the media department, to the scouting department, to the sales department, advertising, you name it. Toxic is toxic. And it becomes a part of the entire culture of what you have going on, operationally speaking. And without knowing very much about the New York jets and having been through their doors, I can just tell you the things that you see, the things that you hear that come from that organization internally totally illustrates what dysfunction and what toxic looks like. It's like the epitome of what it would be like. If you say, here's the definition of what toxic or what dysfunctional looks like. It would have the New York jets as an example. And listen, I'm sorry if you're a New York jets fan and that offends you, but the reality of it is, is that you guys ultimately become a part of that dysfunction, too. You ultimately become a product of the culture as well as fans because you are living these moments that get leaked out and get. And get pushed out by. By the New York media. And the New York media has always had what I would say, a fun time with taking the stories and the leaks and the information that they get and putting it in their periodicals or reporting on it. I mean, Mike.
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Jonas Knox
Francesa.
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LaVar Arrington
Francesa. I mean, he can talk 20 hours, hours about what's going on just in New York sports if he wanted to. I've been in the. I've been in the studio and have had an opportunity to listen to him and, and how he's able to talk about New York sports and. And what's going on. It is a part of the culture. And if you don't have a solid, sound way of how you handle your business internally with your sports organization, it will ultimately become what you are. And that's what you see. Hell, that's what you're seeing with the New York Giants right now. And I would have never thought that you would say that. From my time there, it seemed like it was a very well organized, very well structured group by the mayor and the Tisch family. It seemed like they did just an amazing job. But it even seems like they have now fallen victim to the same exact toxic, not operating at a high level, dysfunctional organization. It's the New York teams period right now in football.
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Jonas Knox
So like for the Jimmy Butler, Miami Heat situation, that, that was toxic towards the end because, I mean, you know, these reports about he left, you know, left him on the tarmac, he wasn't showing up. He didn't get a lot, like just went out of there. But when it was over, yeah, he said, I got nothing but respect for the organization. And it was done. We were gone like that. Like it was over. He went his way. That's fine. Hey, listen, didn't work out. Have fun at Golden State. You know, we're going to do our thing all as well. Like, the jets just can't let it go like this. It's over. You're moving on. Like you've, you've made the decision, you've gotten out there that you want to move on from Aaron Rodgers, that the timelines don't add up, all is well, yet every day a new detail comes out. Why? For what?
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LaVar Arrington
Because it's New York. Because I'm telling you, it's. Because it's New York.
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Jonas Knox
Trade for Justin Tucker. Okay. Like, if you want content, I make a move.
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LaVar Arrington
They got enough of them. Massage parlors. Yeah, they do. By the way, red open side. I look for, I was told just look for the red open sign for massages. And that's the place.
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Jonas Knox
And they, and they probably keep better secrets. Like, I'm just like, you know, like if you're looking for, if that's what you want it to be like. And it feels different than we talk about the Cowboys and Jerry Jones and, you know, he's all, you know, loves the drama and loves to be, you know, have the team out there, but it feels different because like with Jerry Jones, like, you know, like what, you know, this is about a business. The jets, it's just about drama. Like we just got to get our story out. Like, we gotta, we gotta get this out and that. And so when the discussion becomes, hey, what's gonna happen next for both, where does Rogers end up? You know, like the different teams that are out there that are being rumored to be interested in him.
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LaVar Arrington
I Mean that becomes the story, right? Well, that should be what becomes the story.
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Jonas Knox
And the reason that becomes the story is because there's not a person walking the face of the earth. I don't care if you're Fireman Ed. I don't care if you're some mechanic in Brooklyn. I don't care who you are. That's a diehard jets fan. There's not a Jets fan walking the planet who has any confidence that this organization is going to be able to figure it out A, at quarterback and B, roster wise to get back to the playoffs or get back to some sort of relevancy. It's not happening. Like nobody should feel any confidence in it. And especially after. Well, we got rid of the old regime. We got rid of our, our GM and our head coach and our quarterback. We got a brand new coach, brand new gm. We are back. You just got rid of your quarterback. And instead of hearing about what the plan is for them of winning. Yes.
- [31:36]
LaVar Arrington
You want keep throwing dirt on. On a dead her. It's over a dead Boss Hog.
- [31:41]
Jonas Knox
It's done. Like the coffin, it's in the ground. They're shoveling dirt on it.
- [31:47]
LaVar Arrington
Well, your coffins in your bed.
- [31:49]
Jonas Knox
And, and they're. And they're trying to open it, pry it back open and get one last lick in. Like the body's cold and they want to get one more insult in. Oh yeah. You pos like, like. No, just close the lid. Throw some dirt on it. Throw some rope. Yes.
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LaVar Arrington
And they won't. They.
- [32:05]
Jonas Knox
They've got. There's got to run to the media. Got to get these stories out and.
- [32:09]
LaVar Arrington
And, and it's like it's somebody who drives like a super fast car, super loud car, and they like making it rev up and like, like get into everybody's like day and interrupt it while they're having a peaceful meal or whatever it may be. Yeah, it's the same type, right. You're insecure about something. Them dudes and them cars that be revving our home. They got something wrong with them, by the way. If there's something that is insignificant.
- [32:36]
Jonas Knox
If I did that with my truck, if I tried that with my truck.
- [32:38]
LaVar Arrington
Your car would die.
- [32:39]
Jonas Knox
It would vanish.
- [32:40]
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, it would literally disappear and you would evaporate with it.
- [32:43]
Jonas Knox
Like I would just be sitting there holding a steering wheel first off, your.
- [32:46]
LaVar Arrington
Your truck would not be capable of making that type of sound anyway, so. But I almost feel like that's a reverse. You're hiding something. Like there's a reverse something wrong with you, it's like you're not getting a brand new hundred thousand, two hundred thousand dollar car that says, hey, he pay attention to me. You got the, the, the five thousand dollar truck that, that says, hey, load up your, your tools. We're gonna go, you know, mow some lawns.
- [33:15]
Jonas Knox
Look at the back seat.
- [33:16]
LaVar Arrington
We're gonna go handle some plumbing or.
- [33:18]
Jonas Knox
You know, look at the back seat. It's, it's the outfits for a mariachi band like to.
- [33:24]
LaVar Arrington
The instruments are there. I'm just saying like. But you got equally. You probably have something that you're compensating for as well by under. Underwhelming yourself with the vehicle that you drive. It's the same thing with this New York jets organization. Same thing probably with the ownership is, is that there is a tremendous amount of trying to overcompensate for an in adequacy of something and maybe it's winning, maybe, maybe it's relevance in the sports sphere. I don't know what it is, but they are overcompensating and it's like play to hits. You know how Q hits you with play Jonas. Play to hits. Let's talk about Dallas or Da da da. Whatever it may. I think that this is one of those things where they won't get to leverage Aaron Rod. You know how they get to leverage him again is if Aaron Rodgers went somewhere and did really poorly. I don't think they would try to leverage him if he went somewhere and did really well. I think Aaron Rodgers would leverage it if he went somewhere and did really well. But that's the only way you get to use Aaron Rodgers again to generate some type of roi. Because you've gotten zero in reality of an ROI from bringing in Aaron Rodgers to your organization. They're trying to get their return on investment so they're going to keep playing the hits. It's, it's fresh into the, into the off season. You did do all of those things with all these new people. So basically paint a picture of how effed up it was so that now you can sit there and say, hey, look at what we did. We are doing things better. We are being a better organization. You know, I mean like get, we're getting Aaron Rodgers up out of here. You know, he's not going to get any more coaches fired. Da da da. Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, you're toxic. You did this like get rid of them. Like, okay, there you go.
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Jonas Knox
Listen, Aaron, we're really, really concern, concerned about, you know, if you did come back, what would it look like these weekly media appearances you're doing with the Pat McAfee Show. That's our big concern. While we go to the media multiple times over to let them know that we're telling you not to go to the media or else you. It's like, dude, what are you doing?
- [35:25]
LaVar Arrington
It's okay as long as we're doing it.
- [35:27]
Jonas Knox
Yeah.
- [35:27]
LaVar Arrington
It's just not okay when you do it.
- [35:28]
Jonas Knox
Like, you know, it would be like. Like a drug addict standing outside a fast food place going, hey, man, get your life together.
- [35:36]
LaVar Arrington
Dang.
- [35:37]
Jonas Knox
Excuse you. You've got it. You've got a spoon with a lighter and it's noon. I'm having a milkshake and fries.
- [35:46]
LaVar Arrington
Both will kill you. Yeah.
- [35:48]
Jonas Knox
Yes.
- [35:49]
LaVar Arrington
That's why I use PhD weight loss.
- [35:51]
Jonas Knox
That's right.
- [35:52]
LaVar Arrington
What up, PhD? Both will kill you, though. I'm just telling you.
- [35:55]
Jonas Knox
The damn jets, you. I'll say this.
- [35:57]
LaVar Arrington
I drank a strawberry milkshake yesterday from In N Out, by the way, did you hit the spot?
- [36:03]
Jonas Knox
Damn.
- [36:04]
LaVar Arrington
Yeah. It was better than watching the NBA All Star. And it's also better than talking about Aaron Rodgers getting asked on by the jets because we already know they. They did equal. If you ask me, they did equally to put S on one another from Aaron Rodgers and how he's handled things to the way the jets have handled things, it ain't as good as that. Strawberry milkshake, by the way.
- [36:29]
Jonas Knox
By the way, if I had a strawberry milkshake, I'd have to throw away my shoes in a half.
- [36:33]
LaVar Arrington
Oh, yeah. Like, are you lactose intolerant?
- [36:37]
Jonas Knox
I'm something.
- [36:38]
LaVar Arrington
Something. I am. I am. And I. And I was in Penn's music, her dance recital yesterday. And. And I just got to tell you, if they had those, those like those things they have at. At Disney where it monitors you or it has the heat and they can see the gases coming from you.
- [36:59]
Jonas Knox
Really? Really.
- [37:00]
LaVar Arrington
You know, I'm talking about. That's a real thing that they can kick you out of the.
- [37:05]
Jonas Knox
Or arrest you if you're passing gas.
- [37:07]
LaVar Arrington
Yeah. They ban you from the. The park if you're passing gas.
- [37:10]
Jonas Knox
Don't come to a radio studio.
- [37:11]
LaVar Arrington
Oh, well, you shouldn't have been there. And nowhere near me yesterday. Nowhere near your boy yesterday. Every time somebody dance, I like do one of them, like movements. Like I dance with them. Like, it's just like. Like a little duck come out. Like, you know, and it was strawberry milkshake because I'm lactose intolerant. But I really enjoyed it.
- [37:32]
Jonas Knox
Lavar, you're a trumpet player, I try.
- [37:35]
LaVar Arrington
To make sure it was really loud. It was great acoustics in there, so you couldn't really hear me.
- [37:40]
Jonas Knox
I mean, it was good though, you know, it's not a representation of the, of the product. It's just, you know, no lactose intolerant. Didn't. Didn't. Well, I mean the, the jets are success intolerant, so there's that.
- [37:55]
LaVar Arrington
It is what happens when they have success. What's their allergic reaction?
- [37:58]
Jonas Knox
It is the Herd here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Colin. Coming up next in the Herdline news though, we are going to tell you what the future could look like in the NFL. And these are comments from somebody who might have had a little bit too much to drink. We'll get into that for you here on fsr.
- [38:14]
LaVar Arrington
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- [39:10]
Jonas Knox
Last week was our first playoff game and my plaque psoriasis was so itchy under all my gear, sometimes just thinking about scratching could take me out of the moment. And then my doctor told me I could get clearer skin with a pill called otla.
- [39:25]
LaVar Arrington
Otezla Aprimolast is a prescription medicine used to treat adult patients with plaque psoriasis for whom phototherapy or systemic therapy is appropriate. Otzla can help you get clearer skin.
- [39:34]
Jonas Knox
After just four months. Okay, ready for the next game? Talking to my doctor about a pill was a total game changer.
- [39:41]
LaVar Arrington
Don't use OTZLA if you're allergic to it.
- [39:43]
Jonas Knox
Get medical help right away if you have trouble breathing or swallowing, swelling of.
- [39:46]
LaVar Arrington
The face, lips, tongue, throat or arms.
- [39:49]
Jonas Knox
Severe diarrhea, nausea or vomiting, depression, suicidal.
- [39:52]
LaVar Arrington
Thoughts or weight loss can happen.
- [39:54]
Jonas Knox
Tell your doctor if any of these occur.
- [39:55]
LaVar Arrington
And if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts.
- [40:02]
Jonas Knox
Live in a moment.
- [40:03]
LaVar Arrington
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- [40:10]
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- [41:08]
Jonas Knox
It's the herd. Fox Sports Radio LaVar, Erin Harrington, Jonas Knox with you here in for Collin on this Monday. Now normally we do this show alongside Brady Quinn and you can hear us normally Monday through Friday, 6:00am Eastern Time, 3:00 Pacific. So this is considerably later than what we're used to getting up for.
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LaVar Arrington
Oh, it feels so good.
- [41:31]
Jonas Knox
Yeah.
- [41:32]
LaVar Arrington
I gotta admit, it feels nice being awake while I'm doing the show.
- [41:37]
Jonas Knox
Let me tell you something. That whole, that whole five to six hours of consecutive sleep, sleep really underrated.
- [41:43]
LaVar Arrington
Really totally underrated. I tell you what, I woke up like, what the hell? It was like 4, 30, 4, 45.
- [41:54]
Jonas Knox
What are these cars doing on the road?
- [41:56]
LaVar Arrington
Wait a second. I get to go back to sleep?
- [41:59]
Jonas Knox
That is the.
- [42:00]
LaVar Arrington
Let me do that.
- [42:00]
Jonas Knox
That is the one thing that when we were in New Orleans for the super bowl, like the one, the common question you get from everybody is how do you guys do do it? Oh, you mean get up at 1am Monday every day? I just.
- [42:12]
LaVar Arrington
Every day.
- [42:13]
Jonas Knox
You know, you just do it.
- [42:14]
LaVar Arrington
Then we chose to do a weekend show too. That's what's crazy. Like, all right, it's not enough. You gotta do one more show and knock down six days a week.
- [42:22]
Jonas Knox
You do a weekend show.
- [42:23]
LaVar Arrington
A dope weekend show. I had this loser dude that comes on right immediately. Did you like that? Perfect. How I hit him with that. We had loser in the topic with Cam Newton. We go into it and it immediately transitioned. Translated into using that as a transition to Jonas Knox.
- [42:41]
Jonas Knox
That's messed up. Listen, as your, as your technical producer for both your shows on the weekends, I'm not gonna get into the middle of the fight between mom and daddy.
- [42:48]
LaVar Arrington
That's fair. That's fair. As long as I'm dad and he's.
- [42:51]
Jonas Knox
Mom, all I do is promote that. Whatever that show is.
- [42:56]
LaVar Arrington
See, there you go. Look at your hate.
- [42:57]
Jonas Knox
Look at your hate.
- [42:59]
LaVar Arrington
I promote your show at least three times during the course of my show. At least. Perfect. Truth or not? Truth or not? I don't know.
- [43:07]
Jonas Knox
I think the over unders. Two a half.
- [43:09]
LaVar Arrington
Two and a half.
- [43:09]
Jonas Knox
Taking the under.
- [43:10]
LaVar Arrington
Okay, two and a half. I'll settle on two and a half. At least two times.
- [43:14]
Jonas Knox
My favorite part is that people can't. Don't understand the dynamic. So they go, God, they hate each other.
- [43:20]
LaVar Arrington
Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh, Johnson. They don't like each other.
- [43:26]
Jonas Knox
If you think that's really should have been there Thursday night, New Orleans.
- [43:29]
LaVar Arrington
Oh, well, that was all love. That was all love.
- [43:34]
Jonas Knox
Oh, man, that was. That was. That was too much love.
- [43:38]
LaVar Arrington
Now pause.
- [43:39]
Jonas Knox
We. We did talk earlier in the show. We were discussing, you know, the dysfunctional New York Jets. Well, the dysfunctional NBA all star weekend. The dysfunctional New York jets. They've still got a drive stories out there on Aaron Rodgers. And then, you know, there's Saquon Barkley, Penn State.
- [43:58]
LaVar Arrington
We are big time player.
- [44:00]
Jonas Knox
Another member of the stick city class.
- [44:02]
LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
- [44:04]
Jonas Knox
Number 11, Micah Parsons. Yeah. He's seen the Philadelphia Eagles now win a Super Bowl. He's seen Harrisburg. Yeah.
- [44:11]
LaVar Arrington
The Washington from that side of the state.
- [44:13]
Jonas Knox
The Washington Commanders also in the division. They were in the one game title game, the Giants.
- [44:23]
LaVar Arrington
Why even address them right now?
- [44:24]
Jonas Knox
But Parsons spoke about the Eagles winning the super bowl and said the following quote, yeah, that makes me hurt, man. Over the past couple years, we kind of got our wins and losses against them and battled with them. Obviously talent is here, but we've got to just finish and go be aggressive the same way they did. You know, I don't want to sit back and just watch other people build and build and build and we stay the same. So we definitely need some call to action. That from Micah Parsons, member of the Dallas Cowboys.
- [44:53]
LaVar Arrington
What do you say that was wrong?
- [44:54]
Jonas Knox
Nothing.
- [44:56]
LaVar Arrington
The problem is like, like I saw Stephen A. And other people, like kind of chiming in on it. Like, what did he say that's wrong? Nobody, no one out here should take any exception to what he just said. What. What he said in his. His quote. What did he say that's wrong?
- [45:12]
Jonas Knox
Dak Prescott made the same comments, and.
- [45:14]
LaVar Arrington
It was even more like, at least Micah said, look, we can beat these teams. Like, it's. It's. We're competitive. Dak. The way I heard Dak, and. And how he said it's like, he's disappointed that they weren't in the Super Bowl. Challenging to win the Super bowl, like, that's delusional. Like, one is to me, comes from a more. A more grounded space. Like, we got to get better. Like, we're a team that has to get better and not let everybody else get better and get away from us and get ahead of us. Whereas I felt Jack was saying, like, look, we. We beat them. We should have won. And I'm terribly disappointed that we weren't. I mean, maybe I read it wrong, but I just felt like he was like, I'm terrible. Or was that Jerry Jones that said he was terrible?
- [46:01]
Jonas Knox
Well, Jerry Jones was disappointed. And, you know, I felt for sure we were going to lose the super bowl. And then. But the problem is, like, you can't keep track of what each of these guys is saying, because it all is going to result in the same thing, which is they're never going to win a Super Bowl.
- [46:15]
LaVar Arrington
Dang.
- [46:16]
Jonas Knox
Like, if Micah Parsons wants to win a Super bowl, he's got to get the hell out of Dallas. And I say this is somebody who's been bullish about the Cowboys. I mean, there's some reports out there I might have had him in the super bowl this past year. I'm not here to confirm nor deny any of that stuff, but Micah Parsons is probably looking around going. The way we operate and do things is a lot different than the best teams in the league. And we're not close. Like, yeah, you're in the same division, but I got news for you. Bears were in the same division as Alliance. So what? Like, the jets were in the same division as the Patriots for years. Like, just because you're in the same division and maybe there's some familiarity and you play them tight doesn't mean that you're close to being the same team. Because there's, like, you know, this little thing called 15 to 16 other games you have to play.
- [47:09]
LaVar Arrington
Is that what it.
- [47:10]
Jonas Knox
So, like, I mean, I know that. Listen, you've beaten them a couple of times, and you Played them competitively. Dallas wasn't close this year. Dak Prescott went down with an injury, and this was their quote, unquote, all in year.
- [47:23]
LaVar Arrington
That's what he said.
- [47:24]
Jonas Knox
I just.
- [47:25]
LaVar Arrington
That's what he said. It. Hey, do you find yourself curious as to what the call to action is that he's. He's referring to? What is the call to action? What do you do? What would be the most efficient, most intentional, most effective call to action? What do you think Michael Parsons was thinking? What do you think people who are thinking? A call to action. What would the call. What should that call to action be?
- [47:58]
Jonas Knox
If you were going to do something drastic, it would be at the quarterback position, but they can't because they already paid him. So you are stuck with. With. And you do. And look, Dak Prescott has had good years, but I just don't. It feels like the Cowboys window closed.
- [48:21]
LaVar Arrington
Come on, keep trying. You got. You got to keep reaching. Come on. And you want to stop on that one?
- [48:26]
Jonas Knox
Well, no, it.
- [48:27]
LaVar Arrington
You're going to leave it at personnel, on the field. Didn't he. Didn't. Didn't he bring up Philadelphia?
- [48:34]
Jonas Knox
Yeah.
- [48:34]
LaVar Arrington
And say Philadelphia, who's been getting all the love from Philadelphia? Think about it. Who's been getting the love for them winning the championship?
- [48:43]
Jonas Knox
Saquon.
- [48:44]
LaVar Arrington
No, you're on the field.
- [48:48]
Jonas Knox
Oh, Howie Roseman. All right. Of course.
- [48:50]
LaVar Arrington
Now think about that.
- [48:51]
Jonas Knox
Yeah.
- [48:52]
LaVar Arrington
The GM is getting all. Everybody in. Their mama is singing the praises of the gm. I just wondering because I don't want to put Micah in no compromising situations. Because, listen, I don't talk to Micah about what he's got going on professionally or. Or anything like that. So this is not. No inside bit or anything like that. We strictly family talk about family things. But I'm just wondering, is the call to action since we can't replace the owner, you can't replace your call to action. Can't say we got to replace the owner. The owner has got to stop doing all of the meddling that he's doing. When do you think the second singular biggest move that would be a call to action? Action. Especially if you're the best player on the team saying it and you still haven't done your contract yet. So I'm telling you there needs to be a call to action, and that could be gently or lightly positioned to say, if you want me to redo my contract, you want me to do a contract that's going to keep me here, there needs to be some changes made that make us better. He made A specific statement and comment to getting better. Like, they're out here getting better. What are we. We doing? What are we doing? To me, you can't say, oh, well, it's the quarterback position. You can't say, oh, it's this position. You got to say that. It's the people that are making the decisions on the personnel of this team that have to do better.
- [50:21]
Jonas Knox
Yeah.
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LaVar Arrington
That's the only way you can make. That's the only way you can make what he said a valid. A valid point of. Of emphasis, right?
- [50:29]
Jonas Knox
Yeah.
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LaVar Arrington
Okay.
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Jonas Knox
He wants a. He wants a call to action. The problem is he wants. Well, he wants impossible call to action because Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones and Steven Jones run the show there. They're not going anywhere. It's their team.
- [50:46]
LaVar Arrington
Well, whether they do it or not, a drastic call to action means you got to make a decision that you wouldn't normally want to make in order to get different results.
- [50:59]
Jonas Knox
Okay.
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LaVar Arrington
The. The. The definition of insanity is doing something repeatedly getting the same results but expecting different. That's insane. They haven't made a move with one. With. With their GM situation. Like, you don't have to get rid of.
- [51:15]
Jonas Knox
Okay.
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LaVar Arrington
You don't have to get rid of Steve.
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Jonas Knox
The Cowboys have tried twice to bring in somebody and give them some say in how you build your roster. One of them was Jimmy Johnson. That didn't end well. The other. The other was Bill Parcells, who even said, you got to let me stop. Yeah, they want you to cook the dinner. You at least ought to let me. Let me go get the grill groceries. Like, they've tried it. It does. So Micah. Micah Parsons in a spot where he. Everything he's saying is correct, everything Dak is saying is correct, everything the fan base is saying is correct. And you can do nothing about it until you're not on that team anymore or not a fan of that team anymore. That's. It just is what it is.
- [51:57]
LaVar Arrington
That's crazy.
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Jonas Knox
And if you're Dallas not a shot in hell. You're. You're going to let Michael Parsons walk like they will him. It will go down to the last minute like it always does, and he's going to get a huge deal from them and stay there for.
- [52:10]
LaVar Arrington
At least look at it like this. I'm Micah Parsons. I made it a point of emphasis to say we need to be getting better and there needs to be a call to action. So if there's no real motion that way, then no one can be upset at this man saying, I want the. The most top dollar that my position or a defender in the National Football League can command.
- [52:37]
Jonas Knox
Agreed.
- [52:37]
LaVar Arrington
You're going to have to pay me the most of anyone because I am sacrificing my career. Because the call to action is bringing somebody in here who can build our team the right way. That's. That's the call to action. And if you're not going to do that, then the fans of Dallas should not be upset with me. If I'm going to have to take a deal and be on this team that's going to continue to, to. To have malfunctions as the season goes on, you're going. You're going to compensate me for that. You're going to compensate me for that. I've proven to you I'm a historical player. I'm, I'm. I'm a generational player. And the call to action is not being met with the type of ferocity and intensity of making this a real winner. If you're saying this year was our all in year and you're our owner and you're the. The employer of, of me, you pay my checks and you're saying this is our all in year. I got all the information I need to have in terms of what decision I need to make. I need to put myself first. I need to put myself first because Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, you guys are putting yourselves first.
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Jonas Knox
Do you. Do you think Micah, and obviously not that you've talked to him, but do you think part of him? And I wonder if players think like this, they look around the situation and go to your point, all right, if we're never going to compete for a Super Bowl, I'm going to get paid. You have to, like, I'll just take the most money I can possibly get. I'll have a great career here. We'll be somewhat competitive. I'm going to get really famous. I'm going to go to the hall of Fame. I'm just never going to win a Super bowl here.
- [54:15]
LaVar Arrington
And you got to accept it. And what's crazy is, is if you either accept that or you force your way out, you force your way out, then you go somewhere different, you see what you got, or you put your best years. You put your best years down with a team that isn't going to compete for a Super Bowl.
- [54:35]
Jonas Knox
Because I wonder if that's where Miles Garrett's at, where he's like, man, like, I'm over it. Yeah. Like, I got two choices.
- [54:42]
LaVar Arrington
Trade me.
- [54:42]
Jonas Knox
Yeah. And by the way, one of the teams that's looked at as the potential landing spot for Miles Garrett is Washington. So if. If you're Micah Parsons and that happens, you're looking around your division.
- [54:55]
LaVar Arrington
He wants to go to Dallas.
- [54:58]
Jonas Knox
I don't know.
- [54:59]
LaVar Arrington
Imagine if you were to get. Though, that would. That would be the best sense. What. Where. And. And Miller on your edges. If you. If you pulled that off. Jeez, talk about all in.
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Jonas Knox
Bring.
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LaVar Arrington
Bring Miles Garrett. Bring Miles Garrett in the goddang Dallas. That's a start. You want to say you're all in. That's the start. Pay Michael Parsons. Bring in Miles Garrett. That's a start.
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Jonas Knox
I was gonna say. I was gonna say Arrington, Bruce Smith.
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LaVar Arrington
We got that record. I mean, we. We forever in that record book. I was only there for about 10 of them, but, but. But the one that mattered, that last one that broke it, I was there. I was there. I was on the field. I was on his side. I was helping him out.
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Jonas Knox
That's right.
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LaVar Arrington
I gave the pick that got him sprung free, and he got that record. We got that record. Record, y'all. We made history that day.
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Jonas Knox
I want to see if I do a quick Google search of.
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LaVar Arrington
Oh, you see me all on him. I'm draped all on him. Bruce Smith breaks sack record. You see there's a picture of lavar Arrington hugging, jumping on Bruce Smith's back. Yeah. If I just look his old ass back. Bruce Smith breaks record. I guarantee you, you see me on his back. Look, there it is right there. There it is right there. I hadn't got to him yet. I was close. I hadn't got there.
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Jonas Knox
You just turn around to the camera.
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LaVar Arrington
Going, hey, we did it. We did. We. We broke history. I'm telling. I'm. Bruce. We broke history, baby. We made history.
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Colin Cowherd
That's right.
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Jonas Knox
That's why I always tell people, between Lavar and I, we've been to three Pro Bowls. Like, that's.
- [56:31]
LaVar Arrington
That's right.
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Jonas Knox
That's how it works.
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LaVar Arrington
Hey, man, that was probably going to be the most significant achievement in my entire pro career. I. I leaned all the way into that. I ain't let him go. He was trying to get away. He was. NFL films, everything. They gonna play this thing forever. I knew this was my moment. Bruce broke the record.
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Jonas Knox
Oh, man. It is the Herd here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Colin. Coming up next here, though, on the Herd, we are going to tell you how somebody did something for the first time in their illustrious career, and, boy, it did not sit well with many people. We'll get into that for you here on fsr.
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LaVar Arrington
Black History Month is here and we're excited to kick off season. If I didn't know, maybe you didn't either. This season we're shining a spotlight on revolutionary women who redefined excellence. Give Grace wisher her flowers Next time you see the American flag, you just remember a 16 year old black woman helped to make it happen. Listen to I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. From the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or simply wherever you get your podcast. Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This past season on my podcast, here's the thing, I spoke with more actors, musicians, policymakers and so many other fascinating people like writer and actor Dan Aykroyd. I love writing more than anything. You're left alone, you know, you do three hours in the morning, you write three hours in the afternoon.
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Jonas Knox
Go pick up a kid from school.
- [58:11]
LaVar Arrington
And write at night and after nine.
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Jonas Knox
Hours you come out with seven pages.
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LaVar Arrington
And then you're moving on. And actor and comedian Jack McBrayer.
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Jonas Knox
The most important aspect is the collaboration with people that I like, I trust are talented. That has been the most amazing gift to me about this crazy business that we've chosen. Meeting these people who have such diverse talents and you're able to create something together.
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LaVar Arrington
Listen to here's the thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey you guys, I'm Katherine Leg. I'm a racing driver who's literally driven everything with four wheels across the planet and I've got a new podcast. It's called Throttle Therapy. This season I'm competing in some of the world's most notorious racing events. Tune into my new podcast, Throttle Therapy with Katherine Legge, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the I Heart iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jonas Knox
Presented by Capital One, founding partner of.
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LaVar Arrington
Iheart Women's Sports, I'm Maura Aarons Mealy.
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Jonas Knox
Host of the Anxious Achiever on the Show Business leaders and experts unpack the intersection of mental well being, neurodiversity, leadership and career.
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LaVar Arrington
We offer tools and strategies to enjoy better mental health and find the best.
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Jonas Knox
Ways to work for you. Listen to the Anxious achiever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.