Greg Cosell (13:01)

Yeah.

Colin Cowherd (13:01)

And so it's like it's not just about quarterback. How did you get your quarterback? It's risk.

Tom Brady (13:07)

Yeah.

Greg Cosell (13:07)

And this is a copycat league. So I think we saw the Falcons try that with Kirk Cousins failed spectacularly. Let's quickly move on. The way the Eagles did from whence?

Colin Cowherd (13:15)

That's right.

Greg Cosell (13:15)

The Falcons have said, kirk Cousins, it's over. We got Pennocks now. I think you got to make quick decisions, decisions. And not like, hey, maybe next year we got a shot. Which is what the Dallas Cowboys seem to be doing.

Colin Cowherd (13:25)

Think about this. Think about all the talent the Philadelphia Eagles have. It is a stacked roster. They're paying receivers, multiple offensive linemen, quarterback, running back, an old corner slay, a safety, and linebackers. Big money. And they could afford Saquon Barkley. The Cowboys are paying CD Lamb and Dak, and they're like, we don't have $8 million for Derrick Henry. So you do. You just have to be aggressive.

Greg Cosell (13:51)

Yeah.

Colin Cowherd (13:52)

And so when the Cowboys plight emerges.

Greg Cosell (13:55)

No sympathy, by the way, the Eagles, it's amazing. They keep drafting Georgia football players on defense. And amazingly, they've got a great defense. The secret sauce to the Eagles draft Georgia football players.

Colin Cowherd (14:06)

Jalen Carter, everybody. Because there was, you know, there was the incident with his car. And so everybody was hands off Jalen Carter and aggressively. They said, yeah, he's still the best football player out there. And maybe the next Aaron Donald. That was a big risk.

Greg Cosell (14:22)

Nolan Smith coming off the edge. Oh, he's too light. He can't.

Colin Cowherd (14:25)

He looks like a beast.

Greg Cosell (14:26)

And Zach Bond, who was on special teams with the New Orleans Saints.

Colin Cowherd (14:30)

Yeah.

Greg Cosell (14:31)

They see him as an undervalued asset. First team, all Pro, like Eagles, just doing things right.

Colin Cowherd (14:35)

Yeah. And by the way, that doesn't mean all big risks are smart. Cleveland, Deshaun Watson, you should never ever give out a guaranteed contract. Brady didn't get a guaranteed contract. Mahomes doesn't get one. Lamar doesn't get one. You're not giving Deshaun Watson. That's just a poorly run franchise. It's not a poorly coached franchise or a poorly GM franchise. It's a poorly owned franchise. So all risks don't work. But when Philadelphia does does whiff, they just move off it. Yeah, they just. Okay, it didn't work. I mean, look at coordinators. They get to a Super bowl, coordinators get head jobs. Two new coordinators come in one year in. I mean, by Thanksgiving, they're like, yeah, this doesn't work. We're going to get new guys. Don't get paralyzed by it. You can take swings. The problem is when you're Cincinnati and you take no swings. And now you have a team that, with arguably the best quarterback in the league this year, can't make the playoffs. And 40% of the league makes the playoffs.

Greg Cosell (15:32)

And I'm sure you see all the people crunching the numbers. Can they afford to keep T. Higgins now giving all the money to Burrow, Higgins and Chase? Can you get to the playoffs? I. I don't know. It's gonna be tough to keep T. Higgins.

Colin Cowherd (15:44)

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Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I texted you and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest, it was a little pink.

Colin Cowherd (19:18)

There was something sentimental when you, when you send it. It was like, do I send the heart?

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Katie Couric (19:34)

Hey, everyone, it's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the home stretch, and I'm exhausted, but turns out the end is near. Right in time for a new season of my podcast. Next question. This podcast is for people like me who need a little perspective and insight. I'm bringing in some foks friends of Katie's to help me out, like Ezra Klein, Van Jones, Jen Psaki, Asted Herndon. But we're also going to have some fun, even though these days fun and politics seems like an oxymoron. But we'll do that thanks to some of my friends like Samantha bee, Roy Wood Jr. And Charlemagne the God. We're going to take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Power to the podcast for the people. So whether you're obsessed with the news or just trying to Figure out what's going on. This season of Next Question is for you. Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Colin Cowherd (20:40)

So suddenly, and it's weird how it works when a team gets really, really good. A dynasty, beginning, middle, or end suddenly. Everybody that can't beat them always blames the officials. Gotta have something, right? Can't blame your team. So Travis Kelsey, on a podcast with his brother Jason, admitted, and this stems mostly from the calls that's perceived. They go Kansas City's way. They are the villain in the NFL. I love it.

Tom Brady (21:12)

At one point in time, you know, it wasn't that.

Colin Cowherd (21:16)

Yeah, you were the center.

Tom Brady (21:18)

You. You guys were the darling of the NFL. Yeah, I was the.

Colin Cowherd (21:20)

Do you feel bad for him, guys?

Tom Brady (21:21)

And you're now the heel. I'm just.

Colin Cowherd (21:25)

I'm enjoying doing this with the guys.

Tom Brady (21:27)

Together, the guys that we have in there, because it's. It's like it just makes us even.

Colin Cowherd (21:31)

More of a family. So let's take a walk down memory lane of all these dynasties, beginning, middle, and end. Let's go to the Patriots dynasty. How did it begin? Oh, the Tuck rule. A highly controversial play. They went on to win that game.

Justin Pennik (21:50)

Hmm.

Colin Cowherd (21:51)

Wasn't the last play of the game, but it helped them win. Controversial call. How about the greatest team ever in the NBA? The NBA called the Jordan rules. They changed the rules to help Michael. Right. No more tackling the Jordan rules. There's a term for it. How about the Lakers dynasty? Shaq and Kobe. It's almost as if in that Game 6, people forget that in Game 7, the Kings couldn't hit the broadside of a boat. But in Game 6, those Lakers got some dubious calls, favorable calls. That's the only reason they won the series. They actually played a game seven. And how about Derek Jeter and the Yankees? Game one, alcs, Baltimore. Remember that? Jeffrey Mayer. The league wants them to win. Here's the funny thing. All these sports, all these great players, like the leagues, all of them are in cahoots. You know, the truth is, your team gets breaks, too. But after you get the Tuck rule, you miss the kick or have to punt because you don't have Tom Brady. Or after you get that favorable call like Sacramento didn't in game six. Sacramento was awful in game seven and the Lakers weren't. Your batter strikes out, even after the umpire, you know it's rigged. Gives your team that man at second base. He was out on the tag. But the Yankees had somebody who drove him home. And Brady got a first down and the kicker made the kick in a snowstorm. And the Lakers were the better team in game seven. Everybody in life gets breaks. Smarter people focus, people ascending, people more driven people more aspirational. People more prepared. People take advantage of the breaks. Do you really believe in Buffalo? That spot with 13 minutes left decided the game. Did you watch the first series where Josh Allen almost threw two picks, punted, gave it to Kansas City, marched down the field and scored at home, taking a 7 nothing lead? In a playoff game, when you're also getting the second half, kickoff means you'll win it 65% of the time. But go ahead, blame the refs. There were 13 minutes left in that game. Go to Jeters, Yankees. The Jordan rules, the Sacramento Laker. Game six, the Tuck rule. Your team gets the same breaks. They can't cap it off, right? Like even our parents, if they pass away and they have a will, they give executor of the will to the one kid. They trust, the one adult. Doesn't mean they love them more, but they trust them more. They're more organized, less frivolous, more focused. And that's the reality of all these dynasties. Yes, they have been given breaks on calls. I remember when Brady beat Kansas City in Arrowhead. There was a call in that game. D. Ford, remember that? I think he was offsides by a centimeter. They got the call, but what did they do with the advantage of the call? Everybody's getting breaks in life. Everybody's getting calls. The dynasties have better players, better coaches, better manage, more focus, more aspirational. They do something with the break. 13 minutes to go. You're blaming a spot. Did you watch your last drive? Did you watch Kansas City when they had to get a first down to kill the clock or expand the clock and end the game? And they had the special play to Samaj P. Ryan. How come you didn't have that play? How come you didn't have that kind of play? Because Kansas City did. So. I hear this all the time. Greg Cosell, top of the hour. There's always an excuse for it. I heard it with the Yankees, the Patriots, the Chiefs, Shaq and Kobe. People always forget that Sacramento series. They forget there was another game. Apparently people just didn't pay attention to the or in Buffalo. Kansas City. There's 13 minutes left. Each team's getting the ball at least once, probably twice. There's 13 minutes left after the call. Make something of it. You forget if you're really. I owe it. This is my rule. Whenever fans in the NBA blame the refs for losing a game, I always ask the same question. How many turnovers did you have and how many free throws did you miss? And if it adds up to 20, I'm like, you gave the ball away 20 times and you missed and you had free throw 20 times. 20 potential. So think about in the NBA with a three point shot, a turnover could be a minus three. If you have 10 turnovers, that could be 30 points potentially. Right? Like if you're hitting threes, if you're hot, it wouldn't be because nobody go 10 for 10. But like a turnover in the NBA is potentially giving up three points. So it's. That's why I don't watch games with fans. The officials are out to get us now. They're not really. They're not really. Kansas City's just better in these big moments and Philadelphia's got a better roster. By the way, I was looking at dynasties this morning and I went back the last 30 years. J. Mac, just guess the number. Don't put it on the screen. Just pros, not College Sports. Last 30 years, how many dynasties have we had? Baseball, football, professional basketball.

Greg Cosell (27:10)

And can you define dynasty one more time for me?

Colin Cowherd (27:12)

You know it when you hear it. That's like the Supreme Court said about adult content. You know it when you see it.

Greg Cosell (27:20)

I'll go four.

Colin Cowherd (27:22)

Almost double that. Eight.

Greg Cosell (27:24)

Well, now let me hear them, because there may be.

Colin Cowherd (27:26)

Well, no, no, I'll do it. Top of the hour. But it's interesting. Your initial thought is there haven't been that many. And my take on dynasties is we're having more and more. I'm not even counting College, Tennessee Women's, UConn Women's. I'm not counting Alabama football. I'm not even counting Georgia football. I'm not even counting that. Yeah, I'm not counting Serena Williams, Federer, team sports. Right. Tiger? I'm not counting that. In virtually every sport. Not name hockey. Okay. All right. Now, they had the Montreal Canadiens back in the late 60s, I think, 70s. Every sport's filled with dynasties because people aren't even. This idea. The leagues are trying. It's like sports is largely outside of baseball. Socialism.

Greg Cosell (28:09)

They want socialism.

Colin Cowherd (28:10)

That's right. Like baseball's not. And you have a huge gap. Right. And like Pittsburgh can't compete with the Dodgers. We know that they could be more competitive if their owners spent well. Dodgers are going to drive more game day revenue. We all know that. So take baseball out. But the leagues are trying to even this stuff out. It doesn't matter if it's women's tennis. It doesn't matter if it's college football, women's college basketball. There's dynasties and everything because people aren't even. You cannot legislate even. You can legislate fair. You can have rules that are fair. You can't legislate even. Everything's a dynasty. Look at tech. There's five companies in the world that run everything. You know, Meta Nvidia, you know Google. There's like five companies that run basically the Dow Jones. I mean, if you, if you look at our country, five companies the last decade have basically run it. Our stock market, it's five to six companies. There is no parity.

Greg Cosell (29:03)

I do. Can I quibble with a word? You said the Chicago Bulls are the best dynasty in NBA history. Well, mate, that's just, I'm sorry, it's, it's the warriors with KD and Steph. Most dominant postseason run ever. They wiped the floor with Everybody. Nearly went 16 and 0 if not for a historic Cavs performance.

Colin Cowherd (29:20)

It was the best skinny jeans team of all time.

Greg Cosell (29:24)

I mean, Charles Barkley over there in disguise.

Colin Cowherd (29:26)

You take Draymond Green out, it was a finesse team. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.

Justin Pennik (29:35)

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Bobby Bones (31:08)

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I. I texted you and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it and the, the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest, it was a little pink.

Colin Cowherd (31:52)

There was something sentimental when you, like when you send it, it's like, do I send the heart?

Bobby Bones (31:58)

Now I don't like the color edition.

Colin Cowherd (31:59)

It's extremely pink.

Bobby Bones (32:01)

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Katie Couric (32:08)

Hey, everyone, it's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the home stretch, and I'm exhausted, but turns out the end is near. Right in time for a new season of my podcast. Next question. This podcast is for people like me who need a little perspective and insight. I'm bringing in some foks friends of Katie's to help me out, like Ezra Klein, Van Jones, Jen Psaki, Asted Herndon. But we're also going to have some fun, even though these days fun and politics seems like an oxymoron. But we'll do that thanks to some of my friends like Samantha bee, Roy Wood Jr. And Charlamagne tha God. We're gonna take some viewer questions as well. I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Power to the podcast for the people. So whether you're obsessed with the news or just trying to figure out what's going on, this season of Next Question is for you. Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Colin Cowherd (33:13)

2025 is bound to be a fascinating year. It's gonna be filled with money challenges and opportunities. I'm Joel.

Tom Brady (33:20)

Ooh.

Colin Cowherd (33:21)

And I am Matt. And we're the hosts of how to Money. We wanna be with you every step of the way in your financial journey this year, offering the information and insights you need to thrive financially.

Tom Brady (33:31)

Yeah.

Colin Cowherd (33:32)

Whether you find yourself up to your eyeballs in student loan debt or you've got a sky high credit card balance because you went a little overboard with the holiday spending, or maybe you're looking to optimize your retirement accounts so you can retire early. Well, how to Money will help you to change your relationship with money so you can stress less and grow your net worth. That's right. How to Money comes out three times a week, Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. For money advice without the judgment and jargon, listen to how to Money on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's go to Tom Brady, 23 seasons, seven time Super bowl champion. So you're one of the only, I mean, literally, you're one of the only people on the planet who knows what it's like to be the face of a franchise going to another Super Bowl. The pressure's on to me. The pressure's on Kansas City. It's always on the favorite. How did you zone out for two weeks? Now you have your install day pretty quick. Did you hide? Did you. I mean, everybody's talking. You can't go outside. Did you, did you like that? Or are you like, could we just play this Sunday? Did you like the extra time?

Tom Brady (34:41)

I like the extra time a lot because it gave me extra time to do all the prep that I needed to do. And I loved kind of the studying. I loved the minutiae of the game plan. One of my best kind of memories from the Super Bowl 2014, we're playing the Legion of Boom. And it's Friday night before the Super Bowl. We've of course, had like 11 or 12 days to prepare. And I come back from dinner and it's probably like 9 o'clock and I wasn't feeling great about the red area package we had. And I went in and Josh McDaniels is in the staff room. And I said, hey, we got to go through the red area. I said, it's just too hard down there. They play too much zone. And if I look to the left, Earl moves to the left. I look to the right, Earl moves to the right. I was like, we need a few easy plays where I can just stick the ball in there on a play action pass, get everyone, the linebackers to step up and let me just rip something to the back of the end zone. So we install three plays on Friday night. After two weeks of preparation, all the practice is done. And one of the touchdowns is to JoJo Lafel, the first one in the game, and the second one is to Danny Amendola, later in that game. And we hadn't practiced them at all for 11 days. And it was just. I like to use every minute of prep going up into those games because they're the hardest ones to win. And it's so great to get here. And both the Eagles and the Chiefs have had incredible seasons to get to this point, but it all goes for nothing if you don't win this game. And that's what makes the drama so spectacular.

Colin Cowherd (36:15)

The two or three. I mean, I've got so many memories of you in Super Bowls, but I do remember this. You guys were like a big heavyweight champ. You would feel out the first round, the first quarters, and maybe this was Belichick or you, but in the first quarters, you weren't terribly dynamic. You really did let the game come to you. Was that. I was wondered, was that by design? Was this you saying, let's. Let's not unveil much here? Or was it just nerves? Or was it like, that was Belichick's ideology? But you didn't. Historically, you didn't have robust first quarters.

Tom Brady (36:49)

Yeah, they. It was not intentional. Let me say that. We weren't trying to go out there and suck in the first quarter, but most of the time we did. There's. There's. There's definitely a little nerves. There's. You know, I think both teams are feeling each other out, and we never really got behind too much. Atlanta, one that was kind of got away with the. Got away from us there in the first half, but I think for the most part, we were just. We didn't execute the plan exactly the way we wanted. And you're going up against a team that's got a lot of good players and they got a lot of juice and energies a lot in the stadium. It does take a little bit of time to settle into that game. It's. It's an interesting game to play in. It's, it's unique because, you know, most all games you start at 1:00 on a Sunday. On regular season, it's done at four. This is a six o'clock start, Eastern time. It finishes at 10pm It's a four hour game, you know, 33% longer than normal. I often thought of the super bowl as two games. There's a first half game and a second half game.

Colin Cowherd (37:52)

Yeah.

Tom Brady (37:53)

And it was really important for us as players not to go out there in pregame warm up and lose all your energy because it was so built up from these couple weeks of prep that you had. And you waste all your energy in pregame warmup knowing that you still had, you know, a four hour game ahead of you. And I think that's why a lot of the defenses really die in the second half. It's just such a long day.

Colin Cowherd (38:14)

Sure.

Tom Brady (38:14)

There's so much emotional energy that gets kind of put out and then it's really who can survive the fourth quarter of the game?

Colin Cowherd (38:22)

Yeah, the, you know, you've watched so much of these teams you had this will be your fifth Eagles game and their offensive line, to me, and I think Jalen's great, but the offensive line's insane. You had good offensive lines. I don't know if you had four hall of Fame offensive linemen. Have they gotten better? Do you feel like every time you watch the Eagles it was a different version or do you kind of know what you're going to get when you call their games?

Tom Brady (38:53)

I think they've been, you know, I don't. Sirianni is, has done a great job with the adversity this year and dealing with the adversity and you know, I see him hot tempered at times. I really like that attitude that he's got. There's a lot of consistency you see that week to week and I think there has been a lot of consistency over the course of the season from this team. When I think they're really unstoppable is when Jalen Hurts is playing in rhythm in the past game because I look at that defense, the secondary has been consistent. They've been great all year. Fangio scheme, Zach Bond's been as consistent as anybody. That D line, Jalen Carter, Sweat, Jordan Davis, Milton Williams, those guys are consistent. So the entire defense is consistent. The running game's been there all year. That's consistent. A.J. brown getting open man coverage of Devontae Smith, that's consistent. Goddard getting open. That's consistent. The line blocking well, that's consistent. When they can string a consistent rhythmic passing game together, I think they're pretty unstoppable.

Colin Cowherd (39:54)

Yeah. You know, there was a moment last night and I've talked about this. I think Drew Brees and you were really good at this. And I think Mahomes is. And this is not a knock on anybody, but it's. So much of what you did as a quarterback was to avoid mayhem. It wasn't always the over the top plays. It was. You just got him out of trouble. I always say this about the great presidents. It's not always their policy. It's being ahead of a potential problem. That's what a good CEO does. And on that blitz. Yeah, always when Spags brings the corner blitz, listen, it's. I mean, nobody saw it coming. Would you. I don't want to compare you anything. But is that hard to identify or is that a quarterback's responsibility? Because corner blitzes, Tom, they may happen once every two weeks. It's rare. So I saw that play and I thought, Josh has kind of got to see that. Or am I being a sports guy who doesn't. Just doesn't get it?

Tom Brady (40:52)

Okay, so it's a great question. And this spoke. This speaks to a lot of things you and I have talked about over this last year. And unless a quarterback has total operational control of what he's doing, it's going to be very hard against the Spagnulo defense because Spags is going to put so much pressure on the protections and on the offensive line and on the quarterback to sort things out after the snap because some things look a bit unconventional. They're all on the right and they come to the left. They're all on the left and they come from the right. And everyone's spinning the defense at the snap of the ball. And it gets very difficult for the quarterback if you're not anticipating where the problems might be. And you may get lucky every once in a while to make a play work. But I just remember the Super Bowl, I played against Spags when I was at the Bucs late in the career. And I felt like I had studied so much film for two weeks, there was really no blitz he could use that I wasn't going to be prepared for.

Colin Cowherd (41:51)

Yeah.

Tom Brady (41:52)

And when something looked a little funky, based on my film study, had an answer for it. And I had tried to have answers to his pressures, but that took a veteran quarterback who had a great understanding of the protections, who could apply a lot of different tools to get it protected. And then I was Able to go out there and play with a lot of confidence. But again, this is, you know, blitzing in the NFL now has been very effective. I don't think many quarterbacks have understandings of protections. I don't think we're allowing them to develop and that now they're kind of learning on the fly. And it's a, it's a rough place to learn out there on the playing field against a team that has as many talented players as the Chiefs.

Colin Cowherd (42:32)

Yeah. You know, it's funny, I think this, the story of this game is Reed and Mahomes and Spags against the green wall of talent. And Philadelphia is a little like that Seahawk team you faced. I remember that because I'm from the Pacific Northwest and everybody thought I was a Patriot homer and a Brady homer. My entire time. I've always been like, Brady Homer guy, which is not, not a bad guy to be a homer for. And I said, I gotta be honest, I don't know if they can beat Seattle. Like, I don't think when you go and Mahomes is going to face a Philadelphia team, Tom, they may have nine hall of Famers. I mean, Jalen Carter looks like. And that Seahawk team was insane. Go back, go back to that game. Do you. Did you ever privately say to yourself, I don't know if we have the dudes for that. I mean, they are. Did you ever. You wouldn't say it publicly, but what was your mindset like Mahomes this week when he watches film and goes, they don't have a hole, they don't have a weakness. How did you think about Seattle?

Tom Brady (43:29)

Yeah, well, that's a good, that's a great example. That defense was stacked from the pass rush to the backers, to the secondary, to the scheme. And not only that, offensively they had, you know, Marshawn, a young Russell playing great, dynamic guys in the pass game. And they were, they. It took all of us to, to win. And I think when you. And when I look at this game, if you're going to beat the Chiefs, it has to be the ultimate complimentary game because you could score to take the lead with 45 seconds left in the game and give the ball back, back to Patrick in that offense. And the whole world believes that Patrick, including himself and including the defense, he's going against that he's going to drive right down the field and score and take the lead again. So it's like how Buffalo beat him in the regular season. Buffalo was aggressive even though they were up two points. Yeah, to, you know, take the ball and go for it on that, whatever, fourth and two. And Josh made a great play and scrambled in for the touchdown. But it was almost like you got to get up two scores in the end of the game to feel like there's any relief because Patrick has an amazing ability to perform his best in the biggest moments. And there's a lot of fear that's in the other opponents late in the game. And that's a good feeling to have if you're the opposing quarterback.

Colin Cowherd (44:55)

Oh, I know. And you, you Tiger. I always said this, Mahomes, you Tiger. When you could hear the gallery cheering and Tiger was in a different foursome and you knew he just hit a great shot. It got completely in your head. As you knew he just, he just, he just hit a birdie. And I think there's part of that, is that you do get so. I mean, you faced Mahomes in a Super bowl, if I recall, it was a pretty good game for you. Did you go into that game thinking, guys, we got to score blank? I mean, you got in everybody's else. You spent a career getting in everybody else's head. Were you aware of Mahomes and was there discussion that week on fellas, we can't even give him 13 seconds here, that kind of thing.

Tom Brady (45:36)

So, yeah, and we played them in 2018 in the AFC Championship game. They were a high flying offense, Tyreek. And we played a great kind of first half of football in Kansas City. And they come storming back like in the second half and take the lead. It was almost like it evaporated.

Colin Cowherd (45:56)

Yep.

Tom Brady (45:57)

Now that was a very different offense than they have now. When we beat them in the, in the Super Bowl a few years ago, three years ago now, we played a great complimentary game. We played really well on offense, defense played the best game they had played all season. You know, they were struggling in pass protection. I thought our defensive line's ability to get after him and all the blitz schemes that Coach Bowles came up with were really exceptional. But to me, it took a great team effort and that's the only way you're going to beat a great Chiefs team. Now the Eagles have the team to do it. I mean, that's why I'm so excited about calling this game, because it's, to me, the two teams that have been consistently great all season long that are in this game, which is exactly how it should be. And the outcome of this game is going to be determined by a few plays. And no one knows which plays they're going to. Those are going to be. That's why you got to be on it from the moment that you walk into the stadium. This is a, this is a great matchup for a lot of reasons. There's a lot of stars, there's champions, there's coaches, there's tremendous scheme, and then there's tremendous players that have played well under pressure. And it all kind of culminates in this great performance, you know, played out in front of the whole world and all these players that get to be involved in it. This is a highlight of their life, and it's going to be a highlight of my life being there to call the game.

Colin Cowherd (47:24)

I gotta, I want to talk about this because when you and Belichick were in the middle of your dynasty, he hard coaches you, he calls you out. He's rough. That's part of the culture. But since you've gone your separate ways. Oh, he's like a soft serve vanilla ice cream. He's a cream puff now. All he does is a teddy bear. And he said yesterday, he's like, you know what? Just call the Lombardi Trophy, the Brady Trophy. I remember a piece of video when he gave you the game ball, it was near your end in New England. And we made fun of it on the air. I said, that was so hard for Bill. I said, he was so uncomfortable. But I kind of got it, Tom. I understood it. It was the culture. It's the reality. It's like sometimes you have to be a tough parent when you're a dad. Right. And it pains you is when you look at Belichick and you now, is there a warmth now that maybe wasn't possible when you're in the middle of a dynasty?

Tom Brady (48:21)

Well, there's an intensity to our jobs, naturally, that, I mean, look, we always had a great relationship. We still do. And I know there was a lot of things later in my career that people would say or to try to create division. I think there was always a great respect for each other. And I was never. I always saw him as someone that I was trying to please out there as my coach. And I wanted to be the best I could be for the team. And he was always trying to deliver for our team in the role that he was in. And were there times where we didn't see everything eye to eye? Yeah, but I mean, that's 20 years of a relationship. And I said this, I think, in one of the documentaries. Like, I'm not characterizing our relationship based on, you know, a few moments that weren't perfect for either of us. I mean, we had as great of a relationship as you could have over a long period of time with tremendous amount of success. And there's no coach I would have rather played for than him. He taught me so much. And you're right. I think the role of that coach is very much like a parent. You know, if you're not performing well and your grades are below standard, you. You got to tell your kids that. And if they're. If they're putting forth the effort, you got to tell them that, too. And you got to teach them, and you got to develop them, and you got to be there. And there's a sophistication to being a parent, and a good parent at that, expecting that. A lot of these young kids today, they don't know what the right ways to do things are. And you know what? Sometimes to have a little bit of fear in people is a good thing.

Colin Cowherd (49:57)

Yeah.

Tom Brady (49:57)

People should have to wake up and go, oh, God, I got it. I got to do a good job today or else. And I think that's very motivating. I think we're in a culture now where everyone's. Hopefully it can be a little more balanced that, you know, to be rewarded for bad behavior, to be rewarded for being selfish, to be rewarded for thinking about yourself as an individual in a team sport. Like, I loved playing against those guys. I never wanted to play with those guys. You work too hard for too long to think about yourself in situations in team sports. And I think the culture that I was a part of in New England embraced the team first attitude. And what are the rewards of that? Well, championships were won. But more importantly than that, I have relationships with my teammates that go way far above and beyond what they ever were on the football field. I look at the best experiences I've had in my life, and they're with these men and women and probably way more men in a football locker room. But the coaches that contributed to my life taught me in a very significant way that allowed me to be the best I could be. And that's what team sports are about. That's what shared experience is about. That's what relationships are about. That's what ultimately the meaning of life is about. And we form that bond under an intense intensity about what we were trying to do, and we got to do something we love to do, which was play football. So I have looked back on those moments as the best moments in my life outside of being a parent, as the things that have shaped me into who I am today. And if I do anything in football and I'm going to be involved in football for a long time, it's going to be to give back in the same way. And there's no, you know, I am who I am at this point. I'm going to do things a similar way. I always want to contribute to other people's goals and to help them achieve what they want to accomplish.

Colin Cowherd (52:02)

Yeah. So Tom's going to be with me next Friday in New Orleans, a city that it's hard to go to bed.

Tom Brady (52:09)

Let's go.

Colin Cowherd (52:09)

It's hard to go to bed early in New Orleans. I'll somehow make it. You don't have the responsibility, Tom. You can have, you know, you can go out and have a couple extra oysters in New Orleans now. Good. First time you can ever.

Tom Brady (52:19)

Hey, no, no Aaron. Yeah. No Aaron. Donald trying to hunt me down. This preparation is way easier. No lesion a boom I was getting for. I could be looking at where the best beignets in New Orleans are. What a hurricane is. Be down on Bourbon street with you. But it'd be quite a different super bowl prep this time around than the last time.

Colin Cowherd (52:37)

Love seeing you again, my man. We'll see you next Friday, Tom.

Tom Brady (52:40)

Thanks, Colin. Good to see you, man.

Colin Cowherd (52:42)

All right. Tom Brady.

Tom Brady (52:44)

Yeah.

Colin Cowherd (52:44)

I mean, what a breather. Like, I know it's his first super bowl as a broadcaster, but good Lord, going into games and how fascinating was his first answer? How fascinating was that? That in their, that super bowl against the Seahawks on Friday night, they put in three plays and what did he say? Two got touchdowns. I mean, literally, two weeks of prep on Friday before the game, he's like, I don't, I don't feel great in the red zone. I don't. They, they put in, they put in three plates and two got touchdowns. I mean, that is that. And by the way, that's what Kansas City feels like. Not Buffalo. Buffalo's like, yeah, we do the quarterback sneak the way we do it. Kansas City feels like they're staying up the night before and they're like, here's what we're going to do on fourth down to seal the win. And that's the difference in these big games.

Greg Cosell (53:26)

I have faith that Nick Sirianni can be doing something similar that two days before the game.

Tom Brady (53:31)

Right.

Greg Cosell (53:31)

Don't you?

Colin Cowherd (53:32)

I'm not going to get into ad homine attacks, but no, I, I, I think this is why I like Kansas City. I think it's going to be a situational football game and I'm not. I tried last weekend to outthink the room and, you know, you were right there. I mean, Bill.

Greg Cosell (53:47)

Bill's had the lead in the, in the second half and we're driving to go up by eight or nine before the unlucky.

Colin Cowherd (53:54)

Fourth down, 13 minutes to go in that game. Yeah, Bitterness doesn't solve anything. Who's bitter? Who's bitter? No, it's, it's just. What?

Greg Cosell (54:04)

Fairness and equality.

Colin Cowherd (54:05)

Fairness. Yeah, because the league is. It's so tilted toward the Midwest. You know, that's what the, that's what the owners said. You know what? We've had enough big city stuff. Let's make New York terrible and send Harbaugh to la. That's a good story. And have a Midwest small market team dominate the sport.

Greg Cosell (54:21)

Let's have the Midwest make the Midwest great again. You like that?

Colin Cowherd (54:25)

What are you, Robert Kennedy? Permission to hit. Permission. Wow. The world's changing. Right in front of my eyes. Peter Schrager stops by. You've got your tomorrow's headlines today. It's, you know, it's, it's. It never gets old to me watching Brady. He became my favorite football player of all time. And I never take it for granted that Tom Brady stops by for 15 minutes and I love it every time. Little nerves every time. Gotta make sure he's a good storyteller, that guy. He is pretty good at listening to him.

Greg Cosell (54:57)

He's just riveting stuff.

Tom Brady (54:58)

Yeah.

Colin Cowherd (54:58)

Great stuff.

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