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Colin Cowherd
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Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or Fsr this is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. Oh, here we go. It is a Friday. It is great to have you in. J. Mac and I ready to roll on a Friday. J. Mac tonight, of course, Game four, pivotal game for the NBA Finals. I am falling in love with this Indiana Pacer team. We'll have Rick Bucher on next hour to talk some of that. You know, J. Mac, it is the summer of love in the NFL because we had the col combine and then we had the draft and nobody has a bad draft. Everybody gets an A or a B, right? Nobody's got a bad draft. And then we got OTAs. Oh, these guys are amazing. And I want to talk about that. It's the summer of love. I saw this story this morning. Aaron Rodgers blares the headline and Mike Tomlin form a unique super bowl partnership. Okie dokie. I saw another story. Bo Nix is playing fast. Here's another one. One of his teammates in Minnesota says J.J. mcCarthy, who has never played an official NFL regular season game, reminds him of another quarterback. He understands that we have to build a family here and that, you know, you can't have unique results without unique relationships that we believe in. And then, man, he's got some confidence. And he reminds me of like Josh Allen when I was with him in Buffalo, coming into his own and understanding the power that he has to lead this organization. And he's doing a fantastic job doing that. J.J. mcCarthy reminds him of Josh Allen. Okay, that's a little hot for me. Here's what's really going to happen this regular season, and all of us know it, is that this league is now, because of rule changes, a 70, 30 quarterback coach league. As great as Andy Reid is, he only started hoisting trophies when he got Patrick Mahomes. Now, it may be a 65, 35 league quarterback coach, it may be a a 75, 25, but it's about a 70, 30 swing. So if you have a star quarterback and he has at least a B coach, he's going to make the playoffs. If you have a really good quarterback with an A coach, he's probably going to make the playoffs. So these are not my playoff predictions, but this is what I believe makes the playoffs generally. Either a star quarterback with a B coach or better or an A coach with a really, really good quarterback that is often young and getting better. The first group, in my opinion, the five best quarterbacks in the NFL are Patrick Mahomes, Matt Stafford, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow. I know you don't love Zach Taylor, but he got to a Super Bowl. He's had a lot of big wins for a young coach. I think he's bright. I don't always love his clock management, but I didn't like Andy Reeds before. He had a great quarterback. I'm going to go. They'll make the playoffs. The next group, Jaden Daniels, Justin Herbert, C.J. stroud, Hertz and Goff. I know, I know Nick Ceriani don't love him, but if you win a Super Bowl, I gotta make you a B coach. The team buys into them and then the third group, and it's mostly a group where I love the coach. Jordan Love and Matt LaFleur, Bo Nixon, Sean Payton, Brock Purdy and Kyle Shanahan and Drake May and Vrabel. This group. I generally like the quarterback. I like the coach more than the quarterback, but the quarterback's good enough. These are not my playoff predictions, but mine are pretty darn close to this. And my get now I don't have Darnold or Baker or Gino and they're really close. Or Caleb. Those guys were next in line. You know who's not? Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin. Because Aaron's not close to his prime and Mike doesn't make quarterbacks better. And as much as we talk about the revelation of J.J. mcCarthy or, or, or, or the special relationship in Pittsburgh, this is an incredibly predictable league. And in the AFC with a higher end quarterbacks, it's even easier. Last couple years it's been a really easy conference to predict division winners. Again. I had Darnold close and I actually have Darnold in the playoffs. Gino's close. I think he is. Darnold, I got, I got Caleb close. Love his coach. But by and large, all this summer of love, we all kind of know what it's going to look like by the first week of February. All right, so maybe the biggest story of the week has been the Knicks firing Tibs. That was a couple weeks ago. But it's interesting. Yesterday I'm hearing some of the Knicks players like Jalen Brunson saying, hey, this guy deserves love. Well, of course he does, but when you fire somebody. My wife used to work in HR and I remember when I first met her 20 years ago and she said something. She had worked in the hiring business. She said overwhelmingly, people fire themselves. They know it's coming. Well, I don't think Tibbs knew it was coming and I don't think he fired himself. And here's Why I keep hearing this, you know, the Knicks weren't creative enough offensively. The Knicks. The Knicks made some moves and didn't get better. So last year at this time, one calendar year from today, they had Dante DiVincenzo. They not only had him, he was their number one three point shooter. They had Julius Randall, who was their number two playmaker behind Brunson, number two in scoring, number two in assists. They also had Isaiah Hartenstein, their starting center, big time energy guy. So any team that loses their best three point shooter in a three point shooting league, their number two playmaker and a high energy starting center, you would think, whoo, boy, that's going to be rough. The Knicks were actually better in the regular season, went further in the playoffs, and were actually slightly better offensively in net ratings 7 to 5. It's like the Knicks fired their trainer because they only lost 12 pounds and they wanted to lose 15. Yeah, maybe your diet's not good enough. That's why the Tibbs thing has always been about personnel. I like Mikhail Bridges, but he's not consistent offensively. I like Cat, he's bad defensively, certainly not as good as Hartenstein. So my take on this whole thing is generally, and I think my wife was right, people do fire themselves, right? They're inconsistent, they're not reliable, they're toxic, they're just not very good. But Kibbs actually won more games regular season, one more games in the playoffs and was slightly better offensively, losing his number two playmaker, his best three point shooter. And I would argue Hartenstein is a more complete center than Robinson, who's all defense or Cat, who's all offense. And Paul Pierce talked about this yesterday.
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Chris Peterson
When you look at the likes of Indiana, when you look at Boston and teams of that nature in the Eastern Conference, these guys had depth. And that's something that the Knicks were front heavy. So I think he maxed out the roster. So I don't think a coach coming in the roster is what the roster is. The coach. It's not the coach. You're going to have to get more pieces for this team to get over the hump. I don't care who you bring in, you can bring in Red R back, you can bring in Phil Jackson. This team maxed out.
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Colin Cowherd
And what's interesting is of all the teams that Kevin Durant is rumored to be going to, there's four that are getting mentioned. The Knicks are one of those teams, meaning even New York Knick fans, New York Knick media and NBA insiders believe they could really use another catch and shoot guy. So you're acknowledging the personnel isn't quite right. And beyond all of this is the fact that you and I are watching the Indiana Pacers. They've got more good players. Miles Turner is a better rim defender than Robinson and a better center, better offensively. Pascal Sayakam, to me, I would rather have him on the floor than Cat Halliburton, to me, is a more complete guard than Jalen Brunson. And they've got a couple of other players who shoot threes more consistently, it feels like to me, than Mikhail Bridges. Indiana's got better players now. You could say, well, they got a better coach. Well, he's been fired twice, too. So when I look at Indiana and I look at the Knicks and the Knicks gave. I mean, the Knicks gave the Pacers more trouble than Cleveland did, more trouble than Milwaukee did in about the same level of trouble Oklahoma City is. So if you start watching, I mean, remember that ball that bounced high into the air and went in for the Pacers? Some felt that was the difference in the series for a while. So the tips thing is, it's not just that the Knicks didn't have the next coach in waiting, is you're acknowledging it's a personnel issue. That's why you want to kd. They got better in the regular season, better in the playoffs and a slightly better net rating. I don't know. That feels like a job promotion, not a pink slip. All right, jma, we got a lot of things going on today. You know, tonight's game. What's the number? In fact, I think it's OKC is a big favorite tonight, right? Yeah. OKC minus six now it's dipped to five and a half in some spots. Obviously. I'm shocked that the market didn't move yesterday when I said I'm on the Pacers in game four. But, you know, whatever. I'm surprised you haven't picked the game yet. I don't feel I'm not going to bet against Indiana here. We both loved Indiana in game three. Just think about what could happen tonight in American sports. Everybody, you know, the people that cover this league in the locker rooms day in, day out. If you would have pulled the coaches and the GMs, nobody would have picked Indiana to win the championship. They were not favored against first rounder Milwaukee. Now we, I think we both love them over Milwaukee. We thought it was a great matchup for them. I didn't like him over Cleveland. You did New York, Indiana. I kind of liked Indiana. But it was slight and I liked Oklahoma City. Think about all the knowledge in the NBA, the media, the coaches, the GMs. If you'd have polled all of them including the players, remember Halliburton was voted most overrated player. Nobody would have picked the Pacers to win the championship. And if they win tonight they will be up 3:1. And I think that the numbers are something like 88%, 92% winning if they win that game, which by the way they have been the much better fourth quarter team. Oklahoma City is clearly younger and not as good on the road and Halliburton right now is once again like he did against Milwaukee, Cleveland and New York controlling the pace of the series. OKC by the way, 08 against the spread on the road have not covered one road game in the postseason yet. For some reason everybody's obsessed with their season long net rating. Everybody's got OKC tonight. Colin I don't see it. Give me the Pacers. Once again teams are 37 and 1 in the finals when leading 3 to 1. If Indiana wins tonight folks, what a revelation that nobody in the league, no gm, I mean outside of Indiana's group, nobody would have picked them, which I guess this is the NBA. Adam Silver wanted I know the ratings aren't great. I find it interesting. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.
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Campaign Representative
Nearly 90% of kids who vape say flavors are why they do it. A lot of the flavors that I've heard are like peach, mango, watermelon. It makes it seem like more childlike and innocent. Oh, I tried this once. It won't be that much of a problem. But then eventually it becomes a problem. It's time to restrict the scent of flavored tobacco products in Oregon and protect our kids from nicotine addiction. Urge lawmakers to Pass Senate Bill 702A take action@ flavorshookoregonkids.org paid for by the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids Action Fund.
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
At the end of the season, there's only one team that can call themselves NBA champs. Only one player that can call themselves the number one pick in the NFL draft. Well, there's only one electric SUV worthy of the title. The Ultimate. The all electric BMW ix. What I love about the IX is that it delivers legendary BMW performance while its sleek design exudes innovative style from the inside out. Not to mention how much space and utility it provides. Over 75 cubic feet of cargo space, the IX is completely changing the game with an all electric suv. The greatest legends of sports never compromise any part of the game. So why would you settle for anything less from your suv? After all, there's only one ultimate the BMW ix. Everything you love about the ultimate driving machine. Electrified all right, you guys know I'm into the Shadour Sanders story. Ota's many camps. So Mary Kay Cabot's a really good award winning reporter in Cleveland through the years. Probably last 10, 15 years. If she says something or has insights I tend to kind of lean on that. It's a very loud media market, so there's a lot of talk radio is big there and sports radio. But I trust Mary Kate Cabot. Not that I don't trust others, but I know her. So she made an observation yesterday on the quarterback duel that the coaching staff. Kevin Stefanski, again, a guy I really respect. I think he's super bright. I really like him that he is giving Dylan Gabriel and Kenny Pickett more of the offense. That's why their completion percentage is down and that Shadour Sanders is getting more layups. He. He's. He. They're not putting in quite the install with him. And her belief, it's an observation which is, you know, it's an opinion with information, is that basically the staff thinks Dylan Gabriel and Kenny Pickett are closer to starting in terms of readiness. Shador Sanders is number four. Now, what was kind of fascinating to me, not since Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel, if we had a rookie quarterback that people were this divided on now, I didn't like Tebow. I didn't think he had the release or the arm. I think I was right. I didn't like Manziel. I didn't think he had maturity. I was absolutely right. I think in both instances, Shador is mature enough. He's not disruptive, and I think his arm and his release are fine. But it is interesting to watch, you know, to watch the opinions on this. People are absolutely taking sides. So now, if you're not a Shador fan, there are two things that. That help your argument. Number one, Brian Dabel had an interview with Shador, and I think Brian's really sharp. I don't blame the Giants problems on Brian Dable. He may not be able to fix the issues, but I don't think he's the leader of. The issues are the primary reason they went up to the whiteboard and Shedeur did not handle it well. That would concern me. The second thing is Mary Kay Cabot's report is the coaches are giving him the easiest route because he's fourth in readiness. Well, he had a lot of college starts. What are you waiting for? So I think that's fair. But there's always been this. You hear this all the time from business leaders that say, trust your gut. My dad was an optometrist. I trust my eyes, and my eyes tell me that Kenny Pickett's not a starting quarterback in the NFL. And Dylan Gabriel's too small and doesn't have the arm to be A starting quarterback. My eyes tell me that Joe Flacco right now is the best quarterback and Chador Sanders is number two. And so that's what my eyes tell me. And I watched Dylan Gabriel in college and I thought, that's a hell of a college quarterback at Oklahoma and Oregon. I never thought of him as a franchise quarterback in the NFL. I didn't think he could. I thought he was too small. So my eyes tell me Shador is bigger at least has as good an arm, has escapability, and is just a more natural athlete. Here's Kevin Stefanski on Shador's progress so far. I sit right behind him. Joe is to my left, to Shador's left. And to see those two bounce ideas.
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Chris Peterson
Off each other is hilarious.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, Joe will say a few.
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Chris Peterson
Things and, and I'll be like, joe Shador wasn't born. He wasn't born then.
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Colin Cowherd
So it's just, he's got great energy, great kid working his tail off and he's playing really well too. All right, there you go. So I'm just telling you what I saw. And I, and I've said this about Jackson Dart. When I watch a guy in college and I've done this forever, sometimes I turn the sound down. I just want to watch him. Just a visual watch. That's it, just visual. I don't want to hear announcers, I don't want any bias. Let me watch a guy. Do they look and feel like a starting quarterback in the NFL? Shador Sanders did to me. Daniel Jones did not to me. Zach Wilson did not to me. You know, I, Marcus Mariota was a very, very good college quarterback. I never quite thought that was going to work, but with Shadur, I just. My eyes tell me it's going to work. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. Hey, we're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day, 5 to 7pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to. And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show. We never get to everything honestly, because this guy is over promising things we never have time for. Yeah, you blubber lips, blaming me. Well, you know what it's about all called Over Promise. You should be good at it because you've been over promising women for years. Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're gonna be talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time, it will continue on our after show called Over Promised. Well, if you don't get enough Covino and Rich, make sure you check out Over Promised and also uncensored, by the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's gonna be the best after show podcast of all time. There you go, overpromising. And remember, you could see it on YouTube, but definitely. Join us Listen to Over Promised with Covino and rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Campaign Representative
Nearly 90% of kids who vape say flavors are why they do it. A lot of the flavors I've heard are like peach, mango, watermelon. It makes it seem like more childlike and innocent. Oh, I tried this once. It won't be that much of a problem. But then eventually it becomes a problem. It's time to restrict the sale of flavored tobacco products in Oregon and protect our kids from nicotine addiction. Urge lawmakers to Pass Senate Bill 702A. Take action at flavors hookoregon kids.org paid for by the Campaign for Tobacco Free.
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Colin Cowherd
Kids Action Fund Summer is here and you can now get almost anything you need for your sunny days delivered with Uber Eats. Now, what do we mean by almost? Well, you can't get a well groomed lawn delivered, but you can get chicken parm delivered. A day at the lake? That's a no. A Philly cheesesteak? That's a yes. A nice tan? Sorry. A box fan? Happily, yes. What about a day of sunshine? Not happening. How about a box of fine wines? Yeah, that's happening. Delivery's on its way. Okay, how about some clear skies? Nope. Well, how about some French fries? Yeah. So how about a freshly cut lawn? Can't help you there. But a barbecued prawn? Order it and it's on its way. Even throw in some paper towels. Clean up after the feast. So while you can't get fun in the sun delivered, don't worry because you can get pork buns delivered. Uber Eats can definitely get you that. Get almost almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now. Alcohol in select markets. Product availability may vary by region. See app for details.
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Colin Cowherd
There's only one team that can call themselves NBA champs. Only one player that can call themselves the number one pick in the NFL draft. Well, there's only one electric SUV worthy of the title. The ultimate. The all electric BMW ix. What I love about the IX is that it delivers legendary BMW performance while its sleek design exudes innovative style from the inside out. Not to mention how much space and utility it provides. Over 75 cubic feet of cargo space. The IX is completely changing the game with an all electric suv. The greatest legends of sports never compromise any part of the game, so why would you settle for anything less from your suv? After all, there's only one ultimate the BMW ix. Everything you love about the ultimate driving machine electrified with that. Chris Peterson is joining us live. Fox Sports College Football analyst. You know it's funny about this stuff. I was talking about Caleb earlier and I was a big fan of Caleb and I went to dinner last night with the Bears president and I said, I said he was magical for the first year at USC and the first six games of the second. And I said then that Notre Dame game happened, he got sacked six times and I think Lincoln Riley and Caleb lost trust in the O line and he, he got into really bad habits. And I thought last year in Chicago the coaching staff didn't correct those habits. From what you've seen of Caleb, the stuff we like about him, Chris is pretty obvious. Are there things you've looked at and that if you coached him you would be like hey, I got to clean this up with Caleb Williams.
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Chris Peterson
I haven't studied him Colin, as much as you have. But I'll say this, one of the harder guys for me to ever coach in my career has been scrambling quarterbacks that are really athletic and and their legs are as much of A weapon as their arm is, because there's such a fine line between when you should take off and when you should hang in there. And it's one of those things like, no, no, no, no. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And so. And then you lose trust in your O line. Well, you know what's going to happen. So, you know, this guy is a phenomenal talent, But I think at the NFL level, one of those superpowers that these guys have to have is their pocket presence. There needs to be an instinct in there. They need to be trained in there. And really, to be one of the elite guys, they have to be elite in the pocket. I mean, if you just go back to the Tom Brady who, you know, can't run at all, Couldn't run at all. I mean, that guy was so phenomenal in the pocket. I mean, that was his superpower, in my opinion.
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Colin Cowherd
So Shedeur's not a runner. You've seen plenty of him. He's right. He's. He's more like Kirk to me. He's got his comp. Could be Kirk Cousins. Maybe a little more movement. Is there something. Give me what you liked about him and something you saw as an analyst and thought that that's a little. That's concerning.
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Chris Peterson
Yeah, well, I did like him a lot. I saw flashes where you saw the arm talent, the anticipation, I mean, the accuracy. So all those things you did see, I mean, at Colorado, there was a. I put together a highlight one time and watched it, and I was like, oh, man, this guy's got something. But then going back to our conversation, we just had the weakness that I thought he had was pocket presence. Like, Shador, to me, is athletic, but he's not very fast, certainly by NFL standards. So he is going to have to, like, minimize what we're seeing on tape right here and learn to get really good in that pocket. And if he does and gets comfortable there, which is a big F, I think he can be really good.
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Colin Cowherd
So this next question. I got a lot of pushback, apparently, on this. Thank God. I don't read my phone or email, but I got a lot of pushback. I said, listen, college football has pivoted to the playoff, and the responsibility of Ryan Day is to get to that playoff. And so it's like college basketball, Tom Izzo's job at Michigan State, get to March. I don't care. You can lose to your rival. You'll keep your job. If you get into the sweet 16 in March, those checks keep getting cashed. And so I look at Lincoln Riley. And I say to myself, he doesn't get to play Oregon State anymore. Or Washington State or Cal or Arizona. Now it's Ohio State. It's going to be on the docket. And Michigan and Penn State, the travel is worse, the weather's worse. And also the two teams, the three teams that followed him to the Big Ten are Oregon, Washington and his rival. So I can see Lincoln and USC going, guys, we'll play Notre Dame occasionally early in the season. We don't want to have an annual November game. And I defend blowing up that rivalry. Urban Meyer doesn't like it. But from a coaching standpoint, how does it land for you? Potentially not making that a regular game.
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Chris Peterson
I get 100% where the Trojans are coming from. Now, do I like that for the greater good of football? Absolutely not. No one does that. Loves college football. That's one of the most historic rivalries in all of college football. So it's like, wait, what? What are you doing? But I get it because you said it. It is about getting to the college football playoffs. And, you know, I actually like the selection committee. I kind of like that subjectivity. But one thing that I do think has been a little bit skewed with them is strength of schedule. They always talk about that. But when it push comes to shove in my mind, when I look about who they put in, they lean very heavily on the wins and losses, maybe more so than the strength of schedule. You know, I look at the March Madness like you were talking about, and, you know, they have all these metrics, and no one seems to debate those on strength of schedule and RPI and all those type of things. And I think if college football brought that a little bit more into the game with the committee, I think he could make for a good formula.
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Colin Cowherd
So listen, most college football coaches, yourself, potentially included, are they love tradition of it. And there's a lot of movement. There's the playoff, there's the nil. There's the transfer portal. Now, the thing that bothers me more than everything is the transfer portal, because my take is, I don't mind if you transfer. I don't like you transferring three times. First of all, I actually don't think it's good for the kid. I think you have to fight through bad situations in life. And if it was up to me, I would say you get a transfer. But you can't transfer more than once over 18 months. That'll give you about two. In college, you don't get a transfer every year. And you could say, well, Coaches leave. They don't leave every 18 months. That's not the way it works. And coaches, by the way, are bosses. Players are employees. My bosses at Fox get things that I don't get. That's the name of the game. But if I said to you, what needs more tweaking going forward, the transfer portal or the nil, what scares you a little bit? What worries you more?
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Chris Peterson
Colin, if I'm hearing you right, are you trying to lobby to be the commissioner of college football? Because I think we'd take you. I think we would. I mean, here's the thing about what's going on, and I think most fans understand this. There's a lot of good information out there. There's a lot of logic, some of the things you're talking about. The problem is everything's getting sued right now, and the lawsuits are not over yet, even though the House settlements coming down. And it gives us a little more structure, but who knows how that's going to last. But there's no question, you know, the nil. I think every. Most people in the game, the coaches, the players, the administrators, they get the nil. I think everybody's on board with that. There's no question. It's the transfer portal and the tampering and, you know, a guy going to five schools in five years and all, and it's. You're right, it's not better for the kids in the long run. There's just no real structure to it. And I'll tell you, me being not on the sidelines, my whole heart and soul's into the greater good of college football. And it's just like, I worry. I talk to so many fans like you do that are getting so fed up with the college game. You know, it's like, I've heard so many people, like, I'm out. I'm not renewing my tickets. I'm done with college football. And it's because of. For a lot of these longtime fans, they have a hard time wrapping their mind around paying the players. That ship has sailed. I think they can get over that. Yeah, but what they don't want to do is pay these players and then have them leave every year. You don't even know who the players are. I think you're feeling that even more so in college basketball. To me, college basketball problems are always a couple years in front of football, the extremeness of it. And you're seeing that in college. You know, I used to be the biggest college basketball fan, and I can't even follow college Basketball, So I know that's coming in college football, unless we put some, some guardrails on this thing. So I hope it gets worked out sooner than later.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. And I also think if you, the transfer portal is one of those things, it's like in life, oh, I make more money, I'm happier where mo more problems. And I look at the transfer portal and you say, oh, I'm going to go buy, I can go buy a starting corner. Brian Kelly, Lincoln Riley, Deion Sanders. A lot of these programs that brought in heavy transfers, their chemistry is no good. So I still like Debo Samuel, Dabo Sweeney, this year is going to have a great team. He doesn't believe in the portal in the nil. So I still believe you have to build through high schools. Okay, I want to, I want to go to this article which is Sean McVeigh and if you haven't read it, folks, it's just great. And basically Sean was going through a personal crisis a couple years ago and you reached out to him and said, hey, I know what you're going through. Sean McVeigh is one of those people that I remember the first time I saw him at the podium, I was like, how old is he? He should be a president. With your conversations with Sean McVay, have you ever met a coach maybe at that age especially what to you is the secret sauce to him? Because I think there's an argument even with Andy Reid, he is the best coach in America right now. He, you can argue college or pro, he may be the best coach in the world. What jumped out to you as a veteran coach with him?
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Chris Peterson
Colin, I think you're exactly right. I think this might be the best coach in the world. I mean, the. And I'll tell you why the guy is truly a football savant. I can't tell you the type of mind he has, how he remembers things, plays, you know, we've been talking for a couple of years, things that I said to him, you know, years back that he'll bring up. And I'm thinking I said that he doesn't forget anything. So this guy truly knows offense, defense inside and out. He could be a world class defensive coordinator. So he truly is the best in terms of X's and O's, as good as anyone that I've certainly encountered. But to me, what makes him so special is, you know, before he's what, 38, he won a Super bowl, been to another one and has the humility to say, yeah, this isn't working so well. You know, all Those things that we've been after our whole life isn't feeling exactly how it should feel. And for him at that point to say, I need to figure some things out and then make the changes, it is phenomenal. Like, this guy's an inspiration to me and he should. And I can't wait till more coaches get to hear him talk. Because first of all, most coaches that are in the hot seat in their current positions aren't going to talk about being miserable and how hard this is. They're just not, they're not going to go there. Sean will. He's that secure. He has that type of humility and it's just awesome. And then for him to go and work to change his own game, it's just really like nothing I've ever seen. And so he's an inspiration across, you know, in terms of the total package of like. Because it's that thing, like, you know, when you talk about change and you know, it's that cartoon, you ask, hey, who thinks we need to change? And everybody raises their hand. And then the next question is, okay, who wants to change? Nobody's gonna raise their hand, right? I mean, the hardest thing we have to do in life is probably change ourselves. And this guy is full on embrace that. And so for a guy that's accomplished as much as he has, as smart as he is, to have the humility, the self awareness to go, I need to change some of these things to help myself. And this pro, it has been, it's an inspiration. I can't wait for more people to really figure out and listen to Sean talk.
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Colin Cowherd
Chris Peterson, one of my absolute favorites. 14 years as a head coach, Boise State for eight, Washington for six. Coach of the Year, year two time Bear Bryant award winner. We love having him at Fox. As always, coach and I appreciate you on a, I imagine a drizzly day in Seattle. Once again joining our show.
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Chris Peterson
I appreciate you calling. It's great to talk to you. And how many days do we actually have? You know, college football is kind of a train wreck outside of the Saturdays, but on Saturdays, let's go.
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Colin Cowherd
Absolutely. It's a little messy, a little chaotic. Chris Peterson, Great stuff. Fox Sports.
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