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Jason McIntyre
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Buzz Knight
Hi, I'm Buzz Knight, the host of the Taking a Walk podcast, and join me for an upcoming episode with Zach McFarlane, the creator of Family Guy, talking about his new Frank Sinatra music project.
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Seth MacFarlane
Anyone who loves music would salivate over something like this. The biggest question for us was, what's in these boxes? Really, the most thrilling part was hiring an orchestra and just playing what was in these boxes.
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Buzz Knight
Listen to Taking a walk on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Katie Couric
Hey everyone, it's me, Katie Couric. Did you know that I recently joined Substack? Very exciting. It's where I'll be sharing my unfiltered conversations with the people everyone's talking about. I'll also tell you what I'm reading, what I'm watching, what's making me crazy, and what's giving me hope. If you like deep dives, hot takes, and real talk, you're in the right place. Search Katie Couric on Substack and hit subscribe. I'll be there, reporting live, most likely in my pajamas. See you there.
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Steve Wysh
Tune in to all the Smoke podcast where Matt and Stack sit down with former first lady Michelle Obama.
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Angela Rai
Folks find it hard to hate up close. And when you get to know people and you're sitting in their kitchen tables and they're talking like we're talking, you know, you hear our story, how we grew up, how Barack grew up, and you get a chance for people to Unpack and get beyond race all the.
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Steve Wysh
Smoke featuring Michelle Obama. To hear this podcast and more, open your free iHeartRadio app, search all the smoke and listen now.
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Covino and Rich
Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR.
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Jason McIntyre
This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back. It's Wednesday in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you are, however, you may be listening. I think I got that right. I don't know. I've never tried that. It just came to me. It's me, Jason McIntyre, filling in for Colin Cowherd. He is breathlessly texting me updates about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey and I'm relaying them to Rachel Nichols, who I'm joined by again today. Rachel? No, Collins. Not actually texting.
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Rachel Nichols
I'm not sure this is quite.
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Jason McIntyre
This is his last hurrah in. Maybe he's on the golf course, I don't know. But Rachel, listen, we've been hit with breaking news every day, so keep it locked.
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Angela Rai
I know.
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Jason McIntyre
Who knows what's coming down? Now, we did get a little tease about some not great news, which we'll get to shortly. Kansas City Chiefs fans tune in. But I'm going to start the show, obviously with the big news in sports. Travis Kelce, Taylor Swift, engaged. Now, I know sports fans are already sick of it. Their wives, their girlfriends, their side pieces, whatever. Talking about Jason. Wait a minute. What kind of wedding dress is Taylor Swift gonna wear? Do they get a DJ or do they do a band? Do they do an international wedding? And there's all this updates on all the celebrity websites and also sports websites talking about this union. And folks, I'm going to take it in a different direction because we do sports here on the show. And I'm going to say, how does this impact the actual football product of the Kansas City Chiefs? And it keeps coming back to one thing that's fairly obvious, that this has to be the last dance for the triumvirate of Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce. Right? I mean, you guys remember a few years ago, Baker Mayfield led the NFL in commercials and on the field, the product was not great. Well, what are we doing with Travis Kelsey? I mean, he's talked about Retirement. He's among the league leaders in commercials. He's a full blown celebrity now. Okay? He's engaged to the most famous woman on the planet. And now they're going to be planning a wedding. By the way, side note, Travis Kelce's dad gave a random interview to a Cleveland TV station. I, I don't know, there's some kind of connection there. And he said, oh, yeah, basically they got engaged two weeks ago. Which then makes you wonder about that whole podcast appearance. I don't know. Listen, there's just so much happening here. But guess what's not happening? Football. And I mentioned the last dance because Jordan Pippen and Phil Jackson, they knew that that was it. It's over. On some level, guys, Patrick Mahomes has to know this is it. I mean, Travis Kelsey turns 36 in October. He's going into the final year of his contract. He's openly talked about retirement. I mean, he's laying the groundwork for a post football career. I mean, he's podcasting. He's in Happy Gilmore too. By the way, just a quick review. I didn't think the movie was great. It was, it was okay. But I did think Travis Kelce was kind of good. I thought Bad Bunny was good. I didn't even know it was Bad Bunny. But like, Travis Kelsey wasn't terrible. And you know, he's doing a lot of commercials. I have a feeling he's going to have a pretty lucrative post football career. But that's post football. We still have a season to go. And again, I don't think they're a Super bowl team. I had them third in my super bowl tier yesterday. Shocker. Chiefs fans did not like that. But when you kind of drill down and start thinking like, man, maybe this is coming to an end every couple years, Andy Reid, who, by the way, is 67 years old, he's talking about retirement. So, you know, if Kelsey and Reed walked away after this, it would not shock me. I think the dynasty is over. They had their shot in the Super Bowl. They got smashed. Folks, the Rasheed Rice news that's emerging right now. You know, Adam Schefter reporting. Looks like it's going to be the first six games of the season. That's putting even more pressure on Travis Kelce, who, oh, by the way, is coming off a career low in receiving yards, touchdowns. Like, things are not looking great, especially if Rasheed Rice is cooked for the first six games. So I'm say, I know it's a saying, you know, don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened. That's how I'm feeling about this Chief's run. As you see Mahomes running around celebrating, they had a great run. It's over. And Travis Kelsey, you know, he can have a great swan song. I'm sure he's going to play better here. Listen, don't. When you run a mile and you're older, you know you want to come out of the gate hot. No, I'm competing. Whoa, you're running out of gas quickly. Kelsey's going to have to step up here early in the season. If Rasheed Rice is indeed suspended for six games, I don't think this is going to go as great as everybody's predicting. I know they have Mahomes and they have Reed and they have Kelsey, but for how much longer? This is probably it. Now I'm going to shift my focus to a team I actually love, and that's the San Francisco 49ers. Another team that I had yesterday that was mildly controversial in my super bowl tiers. I had them in the first tier. That was met with a lot of scorn and derision on the Internet, but that's what people do online. And the focus here is going to be a certain seventh round quarterback by the name of Brock Purdy. So our friend Albert Brear was at 49ers camp recently and he spoke to Shanahan, Salah, lynch and Purdy. And Brock Purdy had a really interesting quote that jumped out and all the aggregators went wild. Here's the quote from Brock Purdy. I felt this pressure last season on myself to be a superman type guy, go out and make plays off schedule. And I did look. And yes, his rushing numbers were up last season. A lot of that was running for his life. Because when your star running backs out and your receiving room's depleted, you know, you gotta try to make plays. Now I, I do need some context here because Brock Purdy last year was playing for a contract. He was making like $800,000 on that seventh round, dead last pick in the draft, rookie deal. And he was looking to get elevated to be a 40 or 50 million dollars a year guy. Now more context needed. So this Niners team last year, we should have seen the drop off coming. Okay? They had a five year run where they went to two Super Bowls and two conference championships. Purdy got hurt against the Eagles. The other one they lost. And the one year Jimmy Garoppolo got injured and they missed the playoffs, but I totaled it. 12 playoff games in a five year span. So it's no surprise that half the defense was hurt last year and you see guys dropping like flies. 12 playoff games is almost another entire season. Remember the Golden State warriors kept going to the finals and then really broke down rapidly. That was the Niners last year. But I've got a couple things about Brock Purdy that I'm going to hit you with now that are going to be a surprise. So the narrative was that, you know, he wasn't good last year and he was trying to be Superman, he was playing for a contract. And hey, as Colin likes to say, the weather was bad and Brock Purdy crumbled. Well, you know, I do not like the blind taste test when it comes to quarterbacks. I feel like it's cheap and people kind of cherry pick stats. But I this morning just looking at stats for Brock Purdy last year to go with these quotes and then I looked at the leaderboard, I'm like, wait a, Brock Purdy was not that bad last year. So folks, here is the first of two. I'm going to compare Brock Purdy to another quarterback in the NFL last year. So you see his passing yards. Purdy. Plus about 100 touchdown interceptions. Purdy, more touchdowns, more interceptions, yards per attempt. He was not a checkdown artist. 8.5. Much better than this other quarterback and better in passer rating. Let's see who the other quarterback is. Oh, oh, Matthew Stafford. The much beloved Matthew Stafford. I like Stafford. I'm a Stafford guy. But Stafford wasn't great last year. So if Stafford wasn't great, how was Brock Purdy? Awful. Okay, that's, that's number one. Now the staff came up with a second one. I don't know who this guy is. Was. I knew the other one was Stafford. So here are the numbers. Stafford again. More passing, yards, more touchdowns, even interceptions. Way better in yards per attempt and better in passer rating. Let's see who the quarterback was compared to Brock purdy last year. C.J. stroud. Oh, wait a minute. Brock Purdy in his down year was better than Stroud statistically and better than Stafford. What? So Brock Purdy wasn't bad? Okay, their staff is telling me right now we have one more blind resume. Again, this wasn't run by me, so I have no idea who this guy is. Touchdowns even, yards per attempt, edge to Purdy. Completion percentage, dead even. All right, let's see who this quarterback is. Brock Purdy versus Oh my no. Is that Justin Herbert? So, so again we can bag on Brock Purdy all we want the numbers facts say he was better than Justin Herbert, Matt Stafford and C.J. stroud last year. That's a bit of a boom. My kid likes to do truth bomb, you know, with the head exploding emoji. That's what I'm seeing there for Brock Purdy. So we have Greg Cosell last week, now I was on vacation. Cal Herd brought in Greg Cosell to take shots at Purdy. I don't know if he took shots. Here we go.
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Buzz Knight
In terms of being what we call a post snap operator, in other words, when he takes the snap, he has such an intuitive feel for what he sees and therefore he's really, really good timing and anticipation thrower. It's just innate to him. He sees it really quickly. So Purdy is a high level post snap operator. He's a really, really good player. Purdy is a really good quarterback. He's just not a dynamic athlete who's necessarily going to make those kind of special plays on his own. But as a pocket quarterback, he's pretty high level.
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Jason McIntyre
Cosell dropping a little truth bomb there on my guy, Brock Purdy. So I do want to say I try to help you guys out, okay? Try to help you be a little smarter on the gambling front. The fantasy, the takes, and sometimes you don't want it or you want to just argue with me. Folks, just a few facts here. The 49ers this season are favored in 15 of 17 games. 15%. They're going to be awesome. And the only two times are dogs. They're short road dogs against. I think it's the Rams and Bucks back to back. Okay, so they're going to be good. I don't care that you think, oh, the defense is washed. All these new guys, they're going to be really good. Yeah, there it is. They're at the Rams and Bucks back to back in weeks five and six. They are slight dogs. That schedule is cupcake city. Go find me the elite quarterbacks outside of Stafford on that list and take your time because there aren't any folks. The Niners are going to be really freaking good last year. Now I'm going to be honest, if I asked you, the audience, give me the best offense and defensive coaching combos in the league heading into this season and I'll give you one right out of the gate. Andy Reid and Spagnolo, they can be number one. Okay, who's second best in the league? If you want to say Sean Payton and Vance Joseph, I'm not going to fight you. Okay, I'll give you that. But I'll tell you right now, Kyle Shanahan and Robert Sala has to be top three, top four at worst. Okay, I know you're going to bag on Salah. Oh, it was a disaster with the jets, actually, guys, Robert Sala, in two and a half seasons with the jets, the defense, first in points per drive, first in EPA per play, second, third in defensive success rate. It wasn't Salah's fault as a defensive coordinator running the Jets. D it, it wasn't on him. Aaron Rodgers stunk and he got hurt and the jets are a full blown disaster, top down every year. But it wasn't Salah's fault. I'm just telling you, the Niners are going to be really good. You can get on board early and do the victory lap with me come November when they're looking at a number one seed. Or you could just continue to have your opinion off. Brock Purdy's a seventh round pick. He's garbage. You know who you sound like? The guy who was bagging on Tom Brady early in his career. Oh, he's a game manager, J. Mac. He's not that good. Drew Bledsoe was the man. And you kept saying that about Brady until you just couldn't say it anymore and he became the greatest quarterback in NFL history. Like, stop being wedded to your take. Open your eyes. Brock Pie last year, better than Stafford, numbers wise, better than Herbert, better than C.J. stroud, 49ers favorite in 15 of 17 games. I'm telling you right now, get on board. You don't want to be left behind. Now, Rachel, I know that's a big plea to the audience. Hey, you can rock with me or you can just like argue with me, but I feel irrationally good. You're laughing. What?
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Rachel Nichols
I'm laughing. I think you're right, first of all. And I'm laughing because for people out there who don't buy what you're saying you said, oh, it's a cupcake schedule. It's the easiest schedule. It's 32. It's number 32. It is the easiest schedule in the NFL this season. My concern, and we talked about it earlier in the week, is just the injuries. I mean, that wide receiver room has been decimated and Christian McCaffrey is still healthy. That's good. He's made it through preseason healthy. But, you know, we've talked about it, that he is, I don't want to say fragile, because no one who plays that position is fragile, frankly. But someone who has had an injury history right so you just kind of worry if some of those tools at Brock Purdy's disposal are going to be available. Right?
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Jason McIntyre
He's my we need Brandon Aiyuk back. That would be nice if he could get healthy.
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Rachel Nichols
It's not going to be immediate, right. So he's still recovering from the knee injuries. So, you know, it's one of those things where health and luck, as always, have to help these guys out a little bit. But if it's even normal health and luck, which they have not experienced so far in the preseason, but hopefully once the season gets going, if they can just return to a normal amount of injuries, then I'm with you all the way. I think this will surprise some people. We talked about the NFC West. You know, I am not as bullish on the Rams being, you know, I just Stafford, I don't know if he's going to make it through the whole season. So I think that we talk about the 49ers.
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Jason McIntyre
All right, love agreement to start the show. All right, Coming up next, stat emerged yesterday on Rachel's Commanders. That is going to surprise. I was stunned by this. Is it going to hold them back from the Super Bowl? That's next here on the Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Steve Covino and I'm Rich Davis and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio and of course, the iHeartRadio. Applause.
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Covino and Rich
Why should you listen to Covino and Rich?
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Jason McIntyre
We talk about everything, life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved, too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most important interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth.
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Covino and Rich
Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and.
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Jason McIntyre
The iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Kobe. No Rich, wherever you get your podcast. And of course on social media That's.
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Buzz Knight
Hi, I'm Buzz Knight, the host of the Taking a Walk podcast, and join me for an upcoming episode with Seth MacFarlane, the creator of Family Guy, talking about his new Frank Sinatra music project.
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Seth MacFarlane
Anyone who loves music would salivate over something like this. The biggest question for us was, what's in these boxes? There were a few unplayed gems that we had been alerted to by Charlie Pinion of Sinatra Enterprises. So we knew that certain songs like Shadow of your Smile, which actually is not on this record, it'll be on the next one.
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Buzz Knight
Seth McFarland Don Rickles went up to.
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Seth MacFarlane
Frank Sinatra and he said, listen, I'm going to be having dinner with this lovely woman and I, you know, would you come over and say hi? And just so you know, because I feel like if she sees that I know you, it's going to make me look really cool and, you know, I might have a good night. During the middle of dinner, Frank walks over and says, don, hi, how are you? And Don goes, frank, please, I'm in the middle of dinner.
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Buzz Knight
Seth MacFarlane on the taking a Walk podcast. Listen to Taking a walk on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jason McIntyre
Who cares about truth when the lies more entertaining.
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Angela Rai
Hey, everybody, I'm Angela Rai, co host of Native Lamp Pot with Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillum. Through the lens of politics and culture, we talk with you every week. And to make sense of this madness, I've been telling Angela, I don't even know how to fight back right now. So what I'm focused on is just looking out for ourselves. That's the truth.
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Jason McIntyre
We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country.
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Angela Rai
Rest is certainly a form of self care, but if you are watching your full neighbors starve, not be able to pay bills, your rest is selfish. But the thing is, Angela, this is not the mess we created. So I do understand black folks feeling like, you know what, y' all got it.
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Jason McIntyre
We're like family, but we disagree all the time. And we love when our listeners chime in.
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Angela Rai
What would happen if we built our own little Wakandan communities in the rural South?
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Seth MacFarlane
Tiffany, do not run to no rural South. I don't know what you're on.
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Angela Rai
What our audience is asking is, okay, fine, you want me to stop resting? What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take action.
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Jason McIntyre
Listen to Native Land Pod on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Angela Rai
Welcome home, y', all.
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Jason McIntyre
Back here on the herd. Got Steve Wych of NFL Network coming up in about 20 minutes. He's really locked in now. I know he knows the Falcons well. They had a big injury this week. Not great for my Falcons futures. But let's go to a team that someone actually cares about, and that's the Washington Commanders. What a story they were last year, right? You had the Daniel Snyder having to give up, owner loses ownership. You get the new group coming in, new front office, new quarterback, new coach, new everything. And it clicked on a level that, I mean, I can't recall seeing that rapid of a turnaround. Shout out to Dan Quinn, great job. But a stat came out yesterday about Washington kind of blew me away. The Washington Commanders now have the oldest roster in the NFL and oh, by the way, it is the oldest roster in the NFL in the last 20 years. People actually track this stuff. I get it. When you are rebooting with a new owner, new front office, new coach, new rookie quarterback, you need some veterans. So last year they brought in some veterans. You know, Zach Ertz, linebacker Bobby Wagner, who was ridiculous last year, he graded out as the third best middle linebacker in the league. Okay, he's, he's like 34, 35. And, and that's, I don't mean to make be like an ageist, but let's be real. Once you hit 30 in the NFL, outside of quarterback, you're getting old. And they brought in Austin Eckler, running back, who's on the older side this year. They bring in Von Miller, Laramie Tunsil, like they're an older team. Debo Samuel's kind of older. So they've got all these veterans. But then you start to look at the history of the oldest teams in the league and it's not pretty at all. And you start to wonder, okay, so last year they got a little lucky 8 and 4 and 1 score games. It wasn't Kansas City Chiefs 11 and oh, but 8 and 4 is really, really good. And oh, by the way, they beat the Bears on a fluke. Hail Mary, they survived the Saints on a two point conversion deal. Remember, Jaden Daniels was incredible in that game. Jaden Daniels was pretty incredible all season. Okay? This stat is arguably like a top five stat from last season in the entire NFL. So fourth down, if you can go 50, 60% on fourth down, that's amazing, right? You get every other fourth down you go for. You get that. That would be incredible. The Washington Commanders were 20 of 23 on fourth down last season. 87%. That is unsustainable. I don't know if that'll ever be matched. When you look at the amount of attempts they had, 20 or 23, I would kill for that as my free throw percentage in my men's basketball league. Washington did that on fourth down, the highest leverage down. Defensive coordinators are emptying the kitchen sink on the blitz. A lot of pressure. 20, 23 is ridiculous. Can Jaden Daniels do that again? Probably not. And then you start to wonder like, is this old roster, like, they got through last season? What happens if there's an injury to Bobby Wagner? What happens if they're a Von Miller? Can't really be a factor. Zachary gets banged up, these guys are getting older and you start to look up it on the schedule and you're like, oh, this is a very tough schedule. This is arguably a top five schedule in the league. You get the layup against the Giants early. It is a divisional matchup. Could be tricky, right with the Giants front seven. Maybe they surprise the hell out of you. But I mean, Packers, I think the Falcons are going to be good. You get the Chargers. I mean Minnesota Vikings are going to be good. We know the Broncos are hella good. Detroit Lions, like that is a difficult schedule. And you start to wonder, all right, I know they were one in four against playoff teams last year, but who cares, Jay, they and by the way, that one win was week 18 against Kenny or whatever. I don't know if it was week 18. It was late in the season when Jalen Hurts got hurt and Kenny Pickett had to like fill in. Like, guys, what are we doing here? Now they did beat Detroit and Tampa in the playoffs. Awesome. But a lot of things are lining up to make it look like Washington could have could have a very difficult season ahead. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.
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Covino and Rich
Is here and you can now get almost anything you need for your sunny days delivered with Uber Eats. Now, what do we mean by almost? Well, you can't get a well groomed lawn delivered, but you can get chicken parm delivered. A day at the lake? That's a no. A Philly cheesesteak? That's a yes. A nice tan. Sorry. A box fan. Happily, yes. What about a day of sunshine? Not happening. How about a box of fine wines? Yeah, that's happening. Delivery's on its way. Okay, how about some clear skies? Nope. Well, how about some french fries? Yeah. So how about a freshly cut lawn? Can't help you there. But a barbecued prawn? Order it and it's on its way. Even throw in some paper towels. Clean up after the feast. So while you can't get fun in the sun delivered, don't worry, because you can get pork buns delivered. Uber Eats can definitely get you that. Get almost, almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now. Alcohol in select markets. Product availability may vary by region. See app for details.
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Buzz Knight
Hi, I'm Buzz Knight, the host of the Taking a Walk podcast. And join me for an upcoming episode with Seth MacFarlane, the creator of Family Guy, talking about his new Frank Sinatra music project.
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Seth MacFarlane
Anyone who loves music would salivate over something like this. The. The biggest question for us was, what's in these boxes? There were a few unplayed gems that we had been alerted to by Charlie Pinon of Sinatra Enterprises. So we knew that certain songs like shadow of your smile, which actually is not on this record, it'll be on the next one. Seth McFarland, Don Rickles, weapons, Frank Sinatra. And he said, listen, I'm gonna be having dinner with this lovely woman tonight. You know, would you come over and say hi? And just so you know. Cause I feel like if she sees that I know you, it's gonna make me look really cool. And, you know, I might have a good night. During the middle of dinner, Frank walks over and says, don, hi, how are you? And Don goes, frank, please, I'm in the middle of dinner.
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Buzz Knight
Seth MacFarlane on the taking a Walk podcast. Listen to Taking a walk on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jason McIntyre
Who cares about truth when the lie is more entertaining?
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Angela Rai
Hey, everybody, I'm Angela Rai, co host of Native Lamp Hot with Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillum. Through the lens of politics and culture, we talk with you every week to make sense of this madness. I've been telling Angela I don't even know how to fight back right now. So What I'm focused on is just looking out for ourselves. That's the truth.
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Jason McIntyre
We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country.
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Angela Rai
Rest is certainly a form of self care, but if you are watching your full neighbors starve, not be able to pay bills, your rest is selfish. But the thing is, Angela, this is not the mess we created. So I do understand black folks feeling like, you know what, y' all got it.
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Jason McIntyre
We're like family, but we disagree all the time. And we love when our listeners chime.
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Angela Rai
In what would happen if we built our own little Wakandan community communities in the rural South.
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Seth MacFarlane
Tiffany, do not run to no rural South. I don't know what you're on.
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Angela Rai
What our audience is asking is. Okay, fine, you want me to stop resting? What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take action.
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Jason McIntyre
Listen to Native Land Pod on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome home. Welcome home. Back here on the herd, let's bring in Steve Wysh, NFL Reporter, NFL Network. He's been there since 2008. Steve, thanks for joining us on this day with more breaking news involving the Chiefs. This is actual on field product as opposed to the Kelsey Swift engagement, but obviously the Rasheed Rice news just broke. I'm curious, a your reaction and B, you know, what do you think the impact will be on Kansas City's offense?
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Steve Wysh
Yeah, my colleague Tom Pelissero broke that. And what's interesting, remember he had a date set for late September. Right. So that would allow him to play, find out his fate, all of this stuff. By now he's getting this out of the way. So he suspended for six weeks. According to Tom, he'll be able to come back in week seven and then they can get rolling. So that allows the Chiefs on the field to kind of set their rotation and everything from now it allows Rice not to go back and forth like we've seen some players go back and forth in the past. Are they going to play again with Zeke Elliott? Are they not going to play? So that just clears a hurdle of the unknown. So we'll see how Rasheed Rice, who's a valuable part of what they do, how he figures in when he comes back midseason. But again, for the Chiefs, football wise, it just allows him. Let's establish this. This is out of the way now. All sides can function, kind of knowing what is there.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah, it's weird. Rice, it's. He hasn't played enough for us to know if he's great. But in that one season he kind of popped. He looked like he had top 10 receiver potential. Right. With the speed and the strength. Yeah.
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Steve Wysh
I mean, and he helps out what they like to do in that offense. Right. Remember, he does the up the seam stuff. He kind of helps Kelsey clear things out in that middle of the field. Plus you could tell Mahomes really likes him. I mean, they've got a chemistry there. I think they're both Dallas area guys, Texas guys, and they train a lot in the off season together. So that chemistry helps. And so not having him, they knew it was a possibility. They didn't have him. Most of last year they worked around it. So now they'll work around it again, find a way. And when he comes back, it could be kind of a cherry on top type of thing.
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Jason McIntyre
Now, last year the receiver room was, you know, not great, certainly bottom half of the league. Now you're looking at Hollywood Brown, Xavier Worthy, Juju says Schuster. I don't. Does this put more pressure on Travis Kelsey who, oh, by the way is 35 and almost 36?
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Steve Wysh
No. I mean, look, the Chiefs do what they do. Last year the issue wasn't so much the receiving corp, but it was the offensive line. I mean, they just didn't play well. They had issues at left tackle. Then they moved Tuney out from guard to tackle. Some uncertainty at that guard spot for a while. I think if that part is solidified, and we know they did some things to try to change that offensive line, including drafting someone in the first round. If that part solidified, the Chiefs are going to do what they do. I mean, as long as you got number 15, if they've got a dink and dunk, they'll do that. They're going to stretch the field here and there, they'll do that. So I don't think it's so much on Kelsey and that receiving crew as it is on the guys up front to let that offense function the way Andy Reid wants it to function.
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Jason McIntyre
So let's go to Kelsey real quick. Obviously, you know, he's a celebrity now. He was in a movie, he's podcasting. He's engaged to Taylor Swift. Also entering the final year of his contract. He's talked about retirement in the past. He's talked about all the surgeries he's had. We would. It's safe to assume this is his last ride. And I'm just curious, do you think, you know, andy Reid is 67. There's been speculation previously whether or not he hangs Them up. I mean, is there a world where this is really the final run for Reed Mahomes and Kelsey together?
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Steve Wysh
It could be. I don't envision it. I mean, knowing those, those guys as much as I do, I mean, maybe Travis steps away. I'll tell you this. He's got his body really together. I saw him some stuff this offseason. He looks different, he looks fresh. Maybe now that he's engaged, he's going to be super fresh. I don't know. But with Andy Reid, he seems someone to me. Like he just. I don't know what he would do without coaching. And I just think that's kind of something he hangs on to because he knows he impacts lives in a lot of ways besides just on the field and with his staff. And of course Patrick Mahomes is going to be there. So I don't envision it. That's not to say it couldn't happen. But right now, I don't see Andy Reid saying, you know what, this is one last rodeo. We're going out.
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Jason McIntyre
Let me pivot to Brock Purdy, if you don't mind. I am a Brock Purdy guy. I think he's undervalued significantly. He had a quote to Albert Brear saying he tried to do too much and be Superman last year. I mean, Steve, their whole team was banged up. He's playing for a contract. I, I think he can be Superman. I mean, we have a couple years worth of data on this guy. He's really good, is he not?
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Steve Wysh
I, I'm with you. I, I've been a Brock Purdy guy ever since he came in midstream as a third stringer against the Dolphins and put up numbers like he'd been playing all the time. The third stringers don't get reps. So the fact he played that way showed me he's got something to him. I could see him trying to overextend himself last year because there's a certain standard with the 49ers and with, you know, Trent Williams down, Debo Samuel down, Brandon, you know, not having a good year. Brandon, I. You down a lot of defenders down. This just wasn't the same team. So a lot of times guys are going to try to do more than what they're not necessarily capable of doing, but do more than what they should do to live up to the standard that's been set. I think this is a reset with some of the changes on that roster on both sides of the ball with a new receiving crew and with CMC back. The opportunity is there for Brock Purdy to do some big things. I think this is kind of a refresher for the 49ers. I don't know if they'll be dominant early, but we'll see if they gain some traction and get going as the season goes along. But I think Purdy is the least of their worries. I think he's kind of the North Pole that everybody can kind of look to, to guide them, to guide them through.
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Jason McIntyre
I like that. I don't want to be body language expert guy when it comes to Ben Johnson, but Steve, we keep seeing video of him at the podium looking unhappy. Now, maybe he's a serious guy. First head coaching job. He wants to look like a, you know, a tough guy who's really locked in, but it doesn't seem, and it's early, like things are going great with him and Caleb Williams. Rachel had a good point earlier that, like, he's not praising Caleb a ton and a lot of it is criticism. And I, I don't know, Caleb is a little fragile. We had the stuff from Seth Wickersham about how, hey, I didn't want to go to Chicago in the first place. What do you make of all this?
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Steve Wysh
Well, I didn't see Bill Belichick ever very happy. I know Andy Reid's a nice guy, but he's not the most jovial dude up there. So, you know, in terms of how guys appear at the press conference, I don't really know. You know, having been in these situations, it's like the meeting rooms and stuff. If a coach is like glazing you up or beating you down in front of the team in the meeting rooms and really humiliating you in front of your peers, that's where things really tend to ruffle feathers. Now some guys, you know, get bent out of shape by what said in the media. But I don't know Ben Johnson, I've been around him, but he's just an intense guy. There are intense coach you've been around Sean McVay. That dude never relaxes. Now he is kind of captain positive.
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Jason McIntyre
Yes.
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Steve Wysh
But, you know, there's just different coaches with different styles and I'm. Ben Johnson's got my benefit of the doubt until he doesn't. So we'll just, we'll see how this works out. I do think, you know, and I heard the quote that he said, it's going to take a minute for this entire offense to get going. They got a new offensive line, a lot of new pieces. It's going to take A minute. But once they get it going with Ben Johnson, with what he did in Detroit, defensive coordinators fear some of his scheming. We'll see if it translates now that he's in this new role.
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Jason McIntyre
I love to ask you guys in the media, you go to camps, you talk to people. I mean, we're just out here blathering. Is there a team that you see that's maybe undervalued with respect to what everybody else is saying? I want that team to be the Atlanta Falcons, a team, you know. Well, they got an injury on the line this week that's really bad. Is there a team that you've seen that you think, hey, man, nobody's really talking about X. I think they could pop.
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Steve Wysh
It's the team that's in Atlanta's conference and that's Tampa Bay, the team that's won the division. I don't think we talk about them enough roster wise. They are solid, pretty much through and through. But when we talk about teams with a culture, that's a team that's got a culture we don't talk about. There is a standard there now in Tampa Bay. When new players come there, they understand, defensively, you better be physical no matter what you do. Offensively, you better be precise and on time. And we talk about how, you know, first Dave Canales and Liam got the best out of Baker Mayfield. Maybe Baker is the kingmaker. Right. I think Tampa Bay is a team that we better start paying a lot more attention to just because they've got something institutionally now that's been in place for four or five years that we've neglected.
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Jason McIntyre
I didn't think about that. Maybe Baker's the guy, not all these coaches that they keep cycling through. The Baker story is fascinating. How he was kind of kicked to the curb in Cleveland. It was over. And then he was Rams and there was one other team. And now he's. Now he's like a full blown Pro Bowler, right?
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Steve Wysh
He's legit. And when you got Mike Evans and you draft a booka who all reviews out of him coming out of camp have been great. You know, with Godwin on the shelf to start the season, he's got an opportunity to keep doing some things. And look, he's. He's kind of started this thing. You see Geno Smith kind of following there can Sam Darnold following there in Seattle, where maybe it's more. You get the talented player in the right situation and then that talent can start to shine as it meshes with what they do. Mentally in the confidence factor.
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Jason McIntyre
Yeah, it's similar to Brock Purdy. Like, nobody, nobody viewed him as being a guy who could put up these numbers and take a team to the super bowl, put him in the Shanahan offense. Hey, that's fitting. Same with Lamar Jackson in Baltimore. Right. By the way, do you. Who do you have coming out of the afc, Steve?
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Steve Wysh
Well, I love Baltimore. I mean, that's. That's just a team and, you know, spending some time at the training camp. And I've probably been with the Ravens like, the whole time. You know, you've got the Chiefs, you've got the Bills, but the Ravens are just so complete. I think the fact that their defense has its footing. Remember last year, they started with a lot of question marks. The offensive line started the question marks. Those are solid right now. So I think they could continue to rock and roll with Lamar doing what he think about that. 41 touchdowns, four picks, and he wasn't the MVP.
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Jason McIntyre
Amazing. Steve Weiss, NFL Network. Great stuff, Steve. Keep up the good work. Love your. Love your work.
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Steve Wysh
Appreciate you guys.
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Buzz Knight
Hi, I'm Buzz Knight, the host of the Taking a Walk podcast. And join me for an upcoming episode with Seth McFarlane, the creator of Family Guy, talking about his new Frank Sinatra music project.
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Seth MacFarlane
Anyone who loves music would salivate over something like this. The biggest question from for us was, what's in these boxes? Really, the most thrilling part was hiring an orchestra and just playing what was in these boxes.
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Buzz Knight
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