Tom Brady (7:30)

After some games go maybe in a.

J. Mac (7:32)

Direction you think they're going to go, obviously that one went in a much different direction. It was good to get the win. That's important because we're in this, you know, we're at that time of the season into December here, where all these things matter. And, you know, we were able to do that.

Colin Cowherd (7:50)

Okay, so if you look at the playoff picture, the Broncos get a buy and then they get a host. Indianapolis, the closest AFC team to them in the playoff hunt. They'll be favored in that game and should be. Denver at 8 and 5, week off, perfect timing off a win, feeling good hosting an offense that can't throw the ball with any consistency. Indianapolis, I think Denver wins, goes nine and five and again, if you ask yourself, are they for real? Do they check the six boxes? They check all of them. Little young at quarterback, but 61 college starts. Makes you feel pretty good about that in the way Peyton lets Bo Nix run around in the end zone. Tells me all I need to know. He trusts him in big spots. Okay, so I said this yesterday. I think J. Mac brought this up. We were talking about, is the Bears a good job? Well, so Kevin Warren, the president. They could have hired Jim Harbaugh last year, but Jim Harbaugh didn't like Kevin Warren. Kevin Warren used to run the Big Ten. They don't like each other. And so that's not going to happen. And you, you know, so you just kind of retain Matt Eberflufs who, you know, came into the season on the hot seat. So hot he's gone. But yesterday Kevin Warren made a pitch that this is a really good job and he may be right.

J. Mac (9:22)

We're going to have plenty of salary cap space. We have a young talented roster. We have strong draft capital in the upcoming draft.

Colin Cowherd (9:33)

And we have a quarterback in Caleb.

J. Mac (9:34)

Williams who's shown he is very special. And in the right environment he can.

Colin Cowherd (9:39)

Become even more special than he already has shown.

J. Mac (9:43)

When you look at all of these elements as we sit here today, we.

Colin Cowherd (9:48)

Are in a unique situation.

J. Mac (9:51)

This will be the most coveted job in the National Football League this year.

Colin Cowherd (9:56)

Now at first I thought, give me a break. McCaskey's never had a 4,000 yard quarterback. And then I started thinking, well, there were questions, questions about the Chargers. But they had the quarterback right. There were, there were questions for years and years. The Spanos family, ah, they're cheap it chargering. I mean there was a lot of stuff about the Chargers. They moved to la, played in a small stadium. Is it right? And all of a sudden you're like, yeah, they got the coaching staff right, they had the quarterback. So I thought about the job opening. Chicago, the jets, the Saints, probably the Jaguars, the Cowboys. I tend to think the Giants in Cincinnati should retain their coaches. Not sure if they will, but I would. So if you're talking about what did Jim Harbaugh, what was he attracted to? It's quarterback. And the two best would be Chicago and Jacksonville. Now the Jaguars have the younger, richer ownership. That is something. And also the Jaguars play in a much easier division. Whoever gets that Bears job, good luck against Green Bay and Detroit that have stacked young, ascending rosters. And good luck with Minnesota. They may have the best coach in the division. But. But I was thinking about These two jobs in Chicago, if you win. And I think coaches have to have healthy egos. The great ones do. The Sean Payton, the Belichicks, the Vrabels, Andy Reid, you know, I mean, the best coaches, McVeigh, Shanahan. There's a confidence. You know, some will say arrogance, but I think it's a confidence. And here's the thing about Chicago. If you win in Chicago, you're a rock star. Chicago had Oprah and Michael Jordan and Ditka and Mayor Daly and Wrigley Field and Belushi and Farley. Jacksonville, hey, they're opening a Chipotle next Wednesday. I mean, even if you win there, I mean, Jacksonville's where mobsters go to hide. Chicago was the mob. Like it matters more. Chicago, historically, architecturally, politically, it's big. Chicago is big. Yeah, the division is going to be really tough. But I mean, Trevor Lawrence or Caleb Williams. Trevor Lawrence is on what, his fourth injury. Even when Jacksonville has been good, the whole country's like, can we get back to the Steelers and Patriots and Manning and Brady and winning games Like Chicago matters. It's dysfunctional. Their politics and their sports are dysfunctional. Their history is fascinating. I just think there's a rock star quality to it. And if you look at what the best coaches generally look at, and this is why the jets job is dicey. Not only do you not have a young ascending quarterback, you've got an old prickly one in Aaron Rodgers who's increasingly expensive. And Dallas, I like Dak, everybody likes Dak. But as the highest paid player, he's a BB plus quarterback. Coming off another injury, I think Chicago's the best job for a lot of reasons. And one of it, coaches have egos. And if you hit it in Chicago, you're big and that matters. There are certain franchises. The late John Madden used to tell our management all the time, certain games sound big. Green Bay against the Niners, who. Who knows who's quarterback? It sounds big. You know, Raven, Steelers, even when Kenny Pickett played, it sounds big. The Bears can't get quarterback, right? If the Bears are playing Green Bay tomorrow, they could be 08. You'd be like, oh, it's the packers and the Bears playing. And I think that stuff matters. And for that I do think. And Caleb Williams and Montez Sweatt, Jalen Johnson, Keenan Allen, Cole, Comet, DJ Moore. I think it is the best job. I've reconsidered. I mean, also, I get Caleb for three more years minimum on a rookie contract. That matters too. I've already paid Trevor Lawrence and he's expensive. It hasn't lived up to the contract. So I think the Bears is the best job. J. Mac. Yeah. I love when you have a good reconsider. Why? I slept on it, especially after I present the facts. You did. And I was a little dire and I, you know, it's just been such a mess there. And then I went home and I thought about it and I thought, boom. Check, check, check, check. I like their players. We both like their talent. We both like their tight end receivers. We thought a year ago we thought their tackles were good enough. Now they regress badly under a defensive coach. My guess is if you get the right coach, it's like Denver. By the way, two years ago before Sean Payton got there, we thought the Broncos O line was a good left tackle and nonsense. PFF has it number two. Well, that's Sean Payton. He got at the top 10 last year. Now he's got at the top two. Andy Reid, by the way, is constantly rebuilding the online in Kansas City. They always find a solution by the trading deadline or November. So I kind of think it's the best gig. So the New Orleans Saints job is open. You know that division is going to be winnable every year because nobody's good. But is there any talent on the Saints compared to the Bears? It's night and day. It's not even close. I think the, you know, I would rather have a different ownership group in Chicago, but I don't know. I mean. And also the Bears have again, they've got the 11th pick and if you look at their schedule, they'll probably end up with the eighth or ninth pick. And this draft is considered very top heavy. So that many people are saying there's only about 10 to 12 first round players this year. The Bears will get another one. I mean, again, Raiders job could be open. I mean, Pierce has got him. He's fight, they're fighting hard. He just, he seems clueless. Is that a good job compared to the Bears? Well, I get, I will. The Raiders is interesting. I get Brock Bowers, who is the best young tight end I've ever seen. He's a tight end. I get Max Crosby, an elite pass rusher and I get Colt Miller at left tackle. 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Hey, this is Levar Arrington here from up on Game. And listen, I want to talk to you about something very serious for a minute, all right? Something personal to me and right now something that should be personal to you as well. In our country, the hate is at an all time high and it's like we're going backward. The hate is winning. We can't allow that, all right? It's out of control. So many different people, so many different groups are facing too much hate. And it's enough. It's time for it to stop. We need to stop, regroup, change the momentum as a team. Because that's what we are. Everyone in this country is on the same team, so let's act like it. And when a team can't get it together, what do you do? You call a timeout. And that's what we need to do. Call a time out against hate. Let's think about what we say and do. And when we see hate, when we see someone doing or saying those things we know are wrong and hateful, we need to call it out. I'mma call it out. You need to do the same thing. Visit standuptoallhate.org to help and join me in calling for a timeout against hate by following at what's up with Hate or posting the blue square emoji.

J. Mac (20:57)

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Colin Cowherd (21:38)

Herd Hierarchy Time is now. Let's go the top 10 NFL teams according to college number 10. Well, Seattle's not going to win shootouts. They're.05 if they're asked to score, if they give up more than 25 points. And Gino Smith has been sacked 19 times in the last four games. He throws too many picks. But I like the coaching staff. I like their perimeter talent at wide receiver and corner, their pass rush better than it was in previous years. They're a top 10 team. I don't know if they can win a playoff game maybe, but I'll put Seattle at 10. Number nine. I like Denver. I think they have one of the best coaches, maybe the best coach after Andy reed in the NFL. They've won five of seven games. Their only losses to Baltimore and Kansas City. Bo Nicks 8 and 3 over his last 11 games does not make a lot of mistakes. Their offensive line quietly. Sean Payton, an offensive coach, has rebuilt it in two years. PFF has it at number two, Denver at nine. Number eight, Baltimore. Listen, their only team in the league averaging 400 yards. Mark Andrews, Lamar Jackson, Zay Flowers, Derrick Henry. There's a lot to like special teams. Bit of a liability now. Justin Tucker, it's called age mid-30s and the back end of the defense outside of Kyle Hamilton worries me. I'm gonna put him there. Scoring defense is bottom quarter of the league so that worries me. It's like having a bad bullpen. You can outplay people and lose games. I have Baltimore at eight. Number seven, Sammy Darnold. Eventually I was right. He's a baller. Leads the NFL with 46 completions of 20 plus yards. This is not a dink and dunk offense. They will throw the ball down the field. I think Kevin O'Connell is really a spectacular coach. They are seven and one in one score games. That's not just Darnold that is coaching Vikings at seven. Number six, Pittsburgh Steelers. I think their ceiling's a little bit low, but they're 50 against teams that are.500 or better. It's a classic Mike Tomlin recipe. His teams have always played well as underdogs or backed into a corner. Russell Wilson, say what you want. Passer rating in the fourth quarter of 120. He's good when it matters and to me that's a team that can win a playoff game or two. Number five, Green Bay. They're still a tad young. Are they a Super bowl team? Boy, does Jordan Love have a whip. Man, he's got some talent. They become a power run team now. They play at Detroit Thursday. I actually kind of like them in that spot. They're top five in total offense and rushing offense. They become more of a power running team now with Josh Jacobs and I'm here for it. I do feel they're still a year off. Green Bay at five, number four. Okay. My final four teams are the teams I think can win a Super Bowl. Kansas City. Listen, he's been sacked. Patrick Mahomes has five times in back to back games. I don't like the protection right now. At offensive tackle. They're getting Isaiah Pacheco back. That helps play action. They're 11 and one in one score games. Their point differential is the lowest ever for an 111 team. I don't love that, but I trust Andy Reid, Mahomes, Kelsey, Chris Jones and Spags. I have them at four. Number three. Detroit's getting banged up on the defensive end. That worries me. Third, toughest schedule remaining. Will they get knocked out of the perch and will Philadelphia to be a number one seed? They've led by 10 plus points in 10 of 11 games. So they usually play with a lead. Probably won't be like that in the playoffs. I think Thursday is fascinating. I have Detroit at three. Number two, Philadelphia. They figured out Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts. 20 touchdowns. One pick in his eight game winning streak. I don't want him throwing 30 times. I don't want Brady's and Mannings throwing 40 times. They've figured it out. By the way, this team's 90 when A.J. brown plays. I've never seen a great team led by a receiver, but they don't lose when he plays. I have Philadelphia at two. Number one, Buffalo. I think it's the best version of Buffalo. I like that they have James Cook, Dalton Kincaid. They've missed multiple good players during this stretch. I love Josh Allen and he's matured. He's not as reckless as he once was. I think they have their best offensive line, their best running game. You know, when they. When Josh first got there, all their best players felt like defensive guys. Now, I think many of their best players are offensive guys, and they're getting healthier on the defensive side. Let's put Buffalo at number one again. I generally, in my herd hierarchy, think about three to four teams can hoist a trophy. I don't think Green Bay can. Or Pittsburgh. They're darn close at five and six, respectively. And with that, Tom Brady, 23 years, seven rings, most super bowl wins, passing yards, touchdowns. You know it. Okay, so, you know, I'm. I'm. I'll get to Michigan, Ohio State because I. I won't be able to wipe the smile off. That was nuts. I want to start with this, the late hit on Trevor Lawrence. So I got mixed emotions. I want my quarterback to have some mobility, but I also think you leave the pocket, Tom, and you're a running back. Where are you on this hit?

Tom Brady (26:52)

That's a. That's a great question. I've watched, obviously, been a part of the NFL for a long time, and. And I remember there was an instance. There's. I'll start by saying there's mixed emotions that I have about it as well. I remember in 2001, I think we played at Buffalo, and I slid late, and Nate Clements was the corner for the Bills, and he came up out of the secondary and absolutely crushed me. My helmet went flying off, and I got back and I ran to the huddle and. And I had a lot of teammates that came up to me the next day and said, dude, these guys are coming. You got to get rid of that football, and if you're going to slide, you better get down. These guys are coming to get you. And it was a great kind of learning experience for me because I realized that when I'm out of that pocket, things were moving a lot faster for me and.

Colin Cowherd (27:37)

Right.

Tom Brady (27:38)

And the defense is trying to be very aggressive. And over time, the NFL has obviously done a lot of things to, you know, protect players and player health and safety. It's been on and on and on, and the only aspect that I think is very challenging and certainly for Trevor Lawrence, nobody wants to see anybody get hurt. But it is also the reality of a very physical sport that we play. Yeah, but the only way defensive players have to be aggressive, that's their nature. I was trying to be aggressive on offense. We tried to block aggressively, and at the same time, the defense tries to tackle aggressively. So I don't know. There's. There's an aspect to me that I think the Quarterbacks and the certainly the quarterbacks need to take better care of themselves. I've seen Josh Allen running a lot. I see Lamar Jackson running a lot. And it's a great skill set to have. A lot of times I wish I had that skill set. And at the same time, when you run, you put yourself, oh yeah, in a lot of danger. And when you do that, I don't think the onus of protecting an offensive quarterback who's running should be on a defensive player. I don't think that's really fair to the defense. So if you slide and it's, you know, everyone can argue, was it black and white or was it just a gray area? Do you slide late or is it unnecessary roughness or is it a late hit? You know, to me a late hit is very late. You know, there's quarterbacks that I see running and tiptoe on the sideline and they're not even out of bounds and they get hit as they're starting to step out of bounds and there's a penalty flag thrown. So the aspect again, for a play caller, there's more design runs for quarterbacks ever now than in the history of the NFL. So are we really trying to protect quarterbacks? Because if you are trying to do it through the rules, then why are the offensive coordinators not protecting their quarterbacks by keeping them in the pocket and not designing as many quarterback runs? So I think there's just, it's gone to a point where there's really, it's. Everyone will label a certain player as a dirty player. You know, I don't like that one bit. I, you know, maybe they fine or penalize a quarterback for sliding late, you know, and say, look, if we don't want these hits to take place, we've got to penalize the offense and the defense rather than just penalize the defensive player for every single play that happens when there's a hit on a quarterback.

Colin Cowherd (29:56)

So I'm, I said this last week, I said, you know, I'm, I was thinking about this. Go back to Lombardi. The dynasties in league history are Green Bay with Lombardi, Steelers, Patriots, Chiefs, Ravens have always been great. And then the Niners in Dallas. And as you know, growing up in the Bay, I joke that Mark Twain used to say that the coldest winter he ever spent was a summer in the bay. And Dallas gets ice storms. There's never been a warm weather dynasty. And I'm watching the Niners play the Bills. And Tom, the Bills look like when you're eight years old and it snows for the first time and you go with your friends in the backyard, they were having the time of their lives. And I think it matters. I think Buffalo now with James Cook tomorrow. Did you feel.

Tom Brady (30:43)

Yeah.

Colin Cowherd (30:43)

When you played Peyton SEC dome team, did you feel it was an advantage?

Tom Brady (30:50)

Absolutely. I felt like that was a great advantage that we always had, which is why those regular season games were, if they were in Foxboro, they were obviously advantage for us. But if it was early in the season, the weather wasn't that critical. I think you use the weather to your advantage. And I, even when I went to Tampa, I would say there was an advantage being a warm weather team playing against a team that was coming from the north of the northeast. So you use what you have to an advantage and that's because your body acclimates to it. I saw in that Niner Bill game there were a lot of 49er players that were slipping on the turf.

Colin Cowherd (31:21)

Yeah.

Tom Brady (31:22)

And not a lot of Bills players that were slipping on the turf. And the, the point is, is when you're in those environments, you know exactly what shoes to wear, you know how many layers that you have to put on in order to get the job done. So when you have those climates, that's what you try to play too. I knew for me, I knew how many hand warmers I needed in my, in my quarterback pouch per 10 degrees. For every 10 degrees that the weather dropped below 70, I'd put one heat pack. So if it was, you know, 40 degrees, it would be 60, 50, 40 degrees. I'd put three heat packs just to keep a consistent temperature for my hands. So those are all the things you learn over time through a lot of trial and error, through a lot of days in practice. And that's where you get a home field. So if you're Buffalo or the Chiefs and you play in this cold weather year round, you better believe you have an advantage playoff time. When a team that comes from a warmer climate comes and plays you at your home stadium.

Colin Cowherd (32:18)

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Hey, this is Levar Arrington here from up on Game and listen, I want to talk to you about something very serious for a minute, all right? Something personal to me and Right now, something that should be personal to you as well. In our country, the hate is at an all time high and it's like we're going backward. The hate is winning. We can't allow that. All right? It's out of control. So many different people, so many different groups are facing too much hate. And it's enough. It's time for it to stop. We need to stop, regroup, change the momentum as a team, because that's what we are. Everyone in this country is on the same team, so let's act like it. And when a team can't get it together, what do you do? You call a timeout. And that's what we need to do. Call a time out against hate. Let's think about what we say and do. And when we see hate, when we see someone doing or saying those things we know are wrong and hateful, we need to call it out. Imma call it out. You need to do the same thing. Visit standuptoallhate.org to help and join me in calling for a timeout against hate by following at what's up with Hate or posting the blue square emoji.

J. Mac (36:30)

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Colin Cowherd (37:09)

So I'm watching Bo Nicks last night. Now he had 61 college starts. That helps a lot. You did not have this as an advantage. You had a defensive coach, a defensive culture. Do your job. There was some rigidity to the culture you were in offensively until Moss arrived and you broke every record. But I watched Bo Nicks and you know what I took from it, Tom? Last night? My one takeaway, Sean Payton with a lead against Miles Garrett had this kid thrown from the end zone and I'm like, wow, that, that, that. There's no babysitting there. Like I. That's what you could do. You don't let rookie quarterback. That was my takeaway. Was okay, Sean, totally trust this kid. What was your takeaway? Watching him.

Tom Brady (37:55)

That's a great point. And it's the trust that a coach has in a player, you can. It manifests itself all the time. I can always tell when I watch a play caller try to manage a game from the sideline, he's trying to manage the risk. And when you have a quarterback where you feel like, you know what I know he's going to make good decisions, well, then you can actually go out there and you don't have to manage. It's hard to manage a quarterback because you're in the eye of the storm on every play. You touch the ball, 70 snaps. So when you have a quarterback that you're trusting who's making good decisions, well, then you want to give them more opportunities. So. And I see that with a lot of play callers as well. When they do trust them, let's spread. Let's be an empty. Let me give you five different options. Let me get it. Get you out there on the perimeter to make good throws. I'm going to have you manage end of game situations. That takes a great developmental coach. And I would say Sean Payton certainly is that. He's a phenomenal coach and a quarterback that wants to embrace that opportunity to learn a skill set of how to manage a game. Not just, hey, coach, what's the play? Tell me what to do, coach, tell me the play. But why are we calling that play? Why are we in this situation? Why don't we understand the why behind what we're doing? How do we beat man coverage? How do we beat zone coverage? Why are we calling this play in this situation? And then, okay, I understand why you're doing that. So if we don't get the look we want, I can manage the play as a quarterback and get to the next down while still making a positive play.

Colin Cowherd (39:22)

So Michigan has beaten Ohio State four straight times. And I do believe one time last year, Michigan just had far better players. They were stacked. But generally, I think Ohio State has an edge in personnel. It can be slight, but I do feel they, they feel more SEC than Big Ten the way they recruit. And. But the difference is definitely Michigan's had an identity with Harbaugh early, middle and late, and he just handed that identity to his new coach. Ohio State's talented, but I don't know what they are. And I think to myself, you've told me this and so has Edelman, that every Patriot team had a different identity. I feel like I've been watching Ohio State for five years. I'm like, yeah, they're talented. What are they? How do you. How did Belichick create It how do you create? Because there's a lot of, a lot of coaches can recruit in college. The great ones, you know, the Urbans and the Knicks, create the identity and recruit. How do you do it?

Tom Brady (40:23)

I think a lot of is you define the type of player that you want and you define the type of team you want to build and then you find players that have those skill sets physically and those values kind of mentally, emotionally. Michigan is a very tough, hard nosed team. They run the ball very well. You know, they haven't been great throwing the ball, but if I looked at Ohio State strengths, and he says they have a great 7 on 7 team. They got guys they can throw the ball to in the second half. They don't even target their best players. So to me, it's like I may as well have been out there playing receiver for Ohio State. I can't run, I couldn't catch, but it doesn't matter if you don't throw me the ball. Just like they didn't throw a lot of their best players the ball in the second half of that game. So whenever we got to big games, let's say the super bowl, you'd say there's 70 plays left in the game. In our season, the entire six months of work, seven months of work is going to come down to 70 plays. What do we want those 70 plays to look like? And then you reverse engineer it and you say, okay, we're going to want 40 passes and 30 runs. Well, what 40 passes do we want? We could design 150 of them if you want. Now there's 110 of those that won't get called. So why don't we just dial it down and dial it back to the only the specific ones where our best players are going to touch the ball doing the best things that they do and we're going to go out like that. If we lose, we lose. If we win, you know, great. But we're not going to lose doing things that we don't do well. And I think the coaches, Coach Belichick would always say coaches lose games and players win games.

Colin Cowherd (41:54)

Yeah.

Tom Brady (41:55)

And he didn't mean to say that coaches are not valuable. Coaches need to put their players in a position to win. They do instruct you. They give you, this is the plan. It's up to the coach to clearly identify a plan every week about how you're going to win the game. We would come in on a Wednesday morning and I thought the best thing that Coach Belichick did, and there was a lot of them was he would clearly define for offense, defense and special teams. This is how we're going to win the game this week. Don't worry about last week, don't worry about next week. This unique challenge that we have today, or excuse me, on a Sunday, we're going to deal with that based on these three or four areas on each sides of the ball and in the kicking game. And if we execute in these areas, we're going to give ourselves a great chance to win. It doesn't mean we're guaranteed to win. And there's times where we can mis evaluate what those things are. I'll never forget we played the Chiefs once and we doubled. I think Travis Kelce a bunch and not Tyree Kill. Maybe the one of the early times we played Tyree Kill and he went for like 180 or 200 something crazy. He came in the next day and he says, hey guys, we're never doing that again. We screwed that up. If we play these guys again, we know who we're going to double and it's going to be Tyreek Hill. So it's just you got to have some formula for what you're trying to accomplish. What's the bullseye that we need to hit and we need to get the coaches to deliver that to the players in all three phases of the game for them to go out there so that they have something to hit. And if they do that and you identify it clearly, I think you give your team a great chance to win.

Colin Cowherd (43:29)

So Nick Wright was on before me and he posed this question. So Kansas City is 111 and they're winning by paper thin margin. So of all your teams, the team that blew people out was the Randy Moss teams. There's no ring. Your 0304 team, you were winning close games. And so this Chiefs team is the closest to your team. I want you to take me back. People keep saying, well the Chiefs are lucky. And I'm like timeout. That block, field goal, that was coaching. Third down, efficiency. That is coaching. I don't want to hear luck. That's even Rubik's Cubes and Roulette. There's some strategy to it, right? Did you feel that 0304 team? Did you feel like, you know what? Close game, we're winning it. We're just better than everybody at it.

Tom Brady (44:19)

Definitely. I think that look there's. You're going to have a close games, you're going to blowouts. To win the close games is always the mark of a really good team to Win when you're not playing your best football is the mark of a very good team. I just think the Chiefs are so dangerous because if it's a one score game in the fourth quarter and Patrick has the ball, he just, he's incredible. He comes. Not that he comes alive because he comes alive all day long, but he's so dangerous because then he has four downs, you know, late in the game where you got to stop him for four downs, not three.

Colin Cowherd (44:51)

Yeah.

Tom Brady (44:51)

And that's a dangerous aspect for any defense you have to kind of pull away from and that they're hard. You know, it's a hard team to pull away from because they do such a good job defensively. So I think when they transition from really this great offensive team, and I would say when Patrick first started, they weren't as good on defense. Now they have a tremendous defense. They got. Spags is a phenomenal coach. He's got him playing well defensively. Patrick is going to manage the game so well, he's going to throw to the open guy when it's there. He's got Travis out there that is going to make the right decisions in the big moments like we've seen time and time again. So they have a group of players that, that organization does so many things the right way, they're going to be tough to beat in the playoffs. I don't care who they play, where they play. It's, it's, it's a lot like the teams that I played for at the Patriots. If you were going to beat us, man, you had to beat us. We weren't going to beat ourselves.

Colin Cowherd (45:42)

Hey, was Vrabel a good sport when you texted him after the Michigan win? Did he take it well? I bet he didn't. Did he?

Tom Brady (45:51)

I have very little comments on that because a lot of the times Braves will somehow figure out how to turn. Turn it on you. And then you're the, you know, you're the jerk that texted him. So sometimes I lay back on him, but he's a typical Ohio State guy, let me say that.

Colin Cowherd (46:06)

Yeah, they're all the same, Tom. Believe me, I've worked with them. The Michigan guys bring a different level of class. I'll just say that. There we go.

Tom Brady (46:14)

Yeah, Absolutely.

Colin Cowherd (46:16)

Yeah. Great seeing you, man.

Tom Brady (46:18)

Hey, Colin, great seeing you, buddy. Great being on your show. I appreciate it.

Colin Cowherd (46:21)

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