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Look for the JLAB Blue Box at retailers everywhere or visit jlab.com thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports radio at noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It is a Tuesday. What a week we had last week. Not slowing down. Live in Los Angeles, it's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, thanks for making us part of your day. We are packed today. Zach Ertz, Nick Wright, Michael Irvin stopped by J. Mac I'm gonna tell you, we all know Andy Reid's the best coach in the league, but what Sean McVay did last night? Wow, that was a flex. I hope you followed me on the Rams. Felt really good about this. I did follow you on the Rams, my friend. You talked me into it. Dinner is on me. So let's start today's show, the Easy show to do the Easy One. I'm not into Easy. Is Sam Donald stinks. No he doesn't. He's closer to Baker Mayfield than Patrick Mahomes. He doesn't stink. You don't do what he did this year and stink. If you look at the stats last night, first downs. Oh, Rams had fewer than Minnesota passing first downs. Minnesota third down efficiency. Vikings way better. Total plays, rushing penalties. Vikings only had 2. Rams had actually 10. Time of possession Vikings. Vikings. Vikings. Vikings. Vikings. What I watched was a coaching clinic. Brian Flores, who's really good, got worked. The Rams first drive was seven plays 70 yards touchdown. As Greg Cosell noted, the Rams D line was going to be a problem for the Vikings o line. Kevin O'Connell going forward at midfield. Minute 30 left in the first half. I thought felt desperate. This game was over at half. It was 24 3. You could argue it was over midway through the second quarter. All on coaching, the Rams put on a clinic. Brian Flores is great. First play of the game, 25 yards. They're already in field goal position. Napuka Nakua. The common theme this weekend is young quarterbacks that fell behind lost. You know, Justin Herbert lost and Sam Darnold lost and Jordan Love lost. And the only one that won was Jaden Daniels and he needed a doink. What I watched last night, McVay proving once again. Since Sean McVay arrived in Los Angeles, only the Kansas City Chiefs have more playoff wins. And he did it with a run team with Todd Gurley, a run scheme. And then he did it with Cooper Kopp and now he's doing it with an older Matt Stafford and Puka Nkua. And he's actually doing it with defense, this Rams defense. The rookies. The Rams have lead the NFL in rookie sacks, rookie fumble recoveries, rookie pressures. The Rams do not miss on defensive draft picks. They've missed on a couple offensive draft picks. But I'm take Andy Reid out. If you're talking leadership, game management, play design, culture, building, it is almost unfair what the Rams have in Sean McVay. I mean, Phil Jackson's an all time coach, but Phil Jackson was very clear. I coach superstars. You guys do the rebuilds. McVay can do rebuilds, he can do young stars, he can build the defense, he can go run first, he can go past happy, it doesn't matter. You give him an offseason, he'll rebuild the team, he'll rebuild the scheme. Remember a couple years ago he went to Seattle for the opener and a rebuild year. Pete Carroll didn't know what he was watching. I mean, they literally came in with a completely different schemed run game. And I'm looking at some of these Rams defensive stats. Since Week 15, including the playoffs, the Rams lead the entire NFL in sacks. And I don't know if they can beat Philadelphia, but they match up with Philadelphia and they are a different team than the one that played Philadelphia earlier this year. I said this for the last three weeks. This young defense, about every three weeks you look up and they're noticeably better. And I mean, the starters have only played four games the last four games. The starters defensively have played for the Rams. They've allowed under 10 points in all four games. So there's only a handful of quarterbacks that can beat the Rams. And Sam Darnold with this offensive Line is not one of them. But we love to bury losers. I mean, that's what media does, right? You're a loser, we bury you. I didn't think this game was about the Vikings. I thought it was about a staff in Brian Flores and Kevin oconnell that we felt all year was an elite staff. Four drives into that game, three drives into that game, it was a coaching mismatch. The Vikings could not protect Darnold, who's always held the ball too long. For the record, so did Big Ben, and so does Joe Burrow. So did Andrew Luck. Some guys like to hold it a second longer because they're big play guys. They like to throw the ball down the field, not dink and dunk it. But Sam didn't have a great night. But Josh Allen could win that game with that protection. Lamar Jackson Mahomes could win that game. Sam Darnold's not going to. But I said this weekend, we love to bury the losers. I didn't blame the packers for losing. I said yesterday on the show, they're not as good as Philadelphia. They're too young. Green Bay wasn't going to win that game in Philadelphia. It was the one game I said going to the weekend. My favorite bet was take Philadelphia. They don't even have to play well, and they didn't. And they can win. To me, this game was about Sean McVeigh. I mean, think about this. Kyle Shanahan is considered a very good coach. And I think that eight years, four times under.500, and he is very reliant. And Shanahan's good. He is really reliant on Christian McCaffrey. McVeigh's reliant on nobody. Oh, Jared Goff not got rid of him. Matt Stafford, don't go run heavy. He's proven he can win and prove it. He can get to a Super Bowl. So he's not reliant on any one thing. You give Sean McVay an off season or an extra week like Andy Reid, and it feels like a coaching mismatch against a Viking staff that I think is one of the best staffs in the league. The gap in preparation, the gap in game planning in the first two to three drives of that game was insane. Again, Barry Darnold. Darnold's closer to Bakerfield. Baker Mayfield, okay, he had a great year. They're going to move on. They're going to go to J.J. mcCarthy. That's the NFL. If you have a bad couple of weeks at the end of the year, coaches get fired. Quarterbacks get demoted. People hit the free agent market. That's always been the NFL. You only have so many games. There's scarcity. It's not the NBA or hockey or baseball. You can have bad Julys and you're going to be okay. If you're hitting in August, September and October, that's not the NFL. You have a couple of bad weeks, people move off you. But I. McVeigh was symphonic last night. And there was a game earlier this year. Remember this game? J. Mac, when they played the Buffalo Bills? And I came on the following day and I said, I think that was the perfectly coach played game. The best coach played game ball by any team all year was the Rams beating Buffalo. They were as flawless as you can be against a great team that first half. Nobody, including the Chiefs, would have beaten the Rams in the first half last night. I don't know how you coach better or play better or considering what's going on in Southern California, how you're more focused. Here's Sean McVeigh. After thought we had a great rush plan and I thought ultimately it's always about the players bringing it to life and having a real understanding of what we were trying to get done. What was the intent? They have really played excellent football as of late. They're peaking at the right time. They're not showing any of that youth that you would think, you know, as you play your 18th game in the, you know, in this season. But I'm proud of them. They came through in a big way and they were instrumental in, in us being able to advance. Yeah. Game was over by the four series. Let's talk Sam Darnold. And I know what you're all saying, Colin, you love Sam Darnold. I do. But I kept saying all year, when's the shoe gonna drop? I know Sam's reckless. I watched him in college, I watched him in the pros. But he was having like an MVP level season. And it happens. We've seen quarterbacks like this, Ken O'Brien, Rich Gannon, whatever it is. Guys have unbelievable, remarkable seasons, but the truth always comes out. Sam Darnold actually had a very Dak Prescott like season. Won a lot of games. Everybody likes him, players rally around him, coaches love coaching him. Wins a lot of games, and then he faces elite competition and it doesn't look the same. So Sam Darnold was.04 against the Rams and the Lions, and he was.11. 0 against everybody else. And the good news for Sam Darnold is most everybody in the league is everybody Else, there is one Sean McVay and Stafford, there is one Detroit line, offensive line. So Sam Darnold, like Dak Prescott, you put up a 88 mile an hour fastball, he's going to hit it out of the park. He's got, he's got trouble hitting Kershaw in his prime's curveball. He's not going to beat the great teams unless he's got really good protection. A perfect game plan. So 90% of the league isn't this Rams team or the Lions or the Bills or Patrick Mahome. The key is, then don't pay him like Josh Allen. Tampa got it right. They paid Baker the contract that Sam should now get. The Cowboys screwed it up. They paid Dak the contract because I think that Dak Baker and Sam is kind of the same guy. Productive players like him, you can build a little bit around them, but they're reckless, a little bit sloppy. They're not going to elevate the team as much as the team is going to protect them, but they can make plays. But the key is Tampa. And the next team that pays Darnold can't pay him like Mahomes. And that's what the Cowboys did. They got a Baker and a Darnold, and they paid him like Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. So they're going to go now with JJ McCarthy and they're going to give the young kid a shot. And Sam is absolutely going to have a market. I don't know where he's going to go, but Baker Mayfield had a market. Hell, Gino Smith had a market. Old Tom Brady and Kirk Cousins had a market. But. But Sam's season, let's not take away from it. It was remarkable. It was a great season. It was a fun season. This team was picked to finish fourth. And I don't put it all on Sam last night. Young quarterbacks, Jordan Love, Sam Darnold, Justin Herbert, still pretty young, that fell behind or had, could not get protect Texans. I mean, the Chargers couldn't protect Justin Herbert. The Vikings couldn't protect Sam Darnold. Baker Mayfield should have won that game, but you know, Jaden Daniels is remarkable. This is what happens in the playoff. Jordan Love got behind, got a little reckless trying to make plays. There is no tomorrow. So Sam's going to be fine. He deserves a Baker Mayfield contract. You can kind of build around him, but it's. Let's not confuse it for what it is. And here's Kevin O'Connell after what he was able to do this year, when not Very many people thought he would be able to lead a team to 14 wins. Very rare for a quarterback in their first year. And I think Sam will be the first one to tell you, could he have played better tonight?
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Michael Irvin
I'm sure he would tell you that he could have.
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Colin Cowherd
Could I have coached better?
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Michael Irvin
I promise you I could have.
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Colin Cowherd
Could our team have rallied around, you know, a play here or there to try to keep that thing competitive? For sure. And I, you know, I said Sam Darnold, he was.04 against the Rams and the Lions, but he was actually like 14, 0 against everybody else. Sam was perfect except against the great teams. And you know, who beats the great teams? Not many quarterbacks. Four, maybe in the league. I mean, as good as Stafford and McVeigh are, they're going to go to Philadelphia, be an underdog, probably not play as perfectly as they did last night. Philadelphia played poorly, so everybody now is doubting them. Yet they played poorly and beat a good Packer team. So Philadelphia now goes, stays home, cold weather, Rams play a perfect game. It is hard to beat great in this league. And Sam faced great last night. A great pass rush, a great young defense, a great coach, great efficiency by Matt Stafford. Sam's not going to beat that with that O line. All right, J. Mack, Cowboys may have a coach and it's. And it's from the college ranks. Stop it. You can't even say it with a straight face. But in all seriousness, for Darnold, everybody going on to pile on him last night on social media, I thought it was a little excessive. All of a sudden he was an MVP candidate for what, 15 weeks and now he's a total bum who's not going to get paid by anybody. He's still going to have a market in the off season. Oh, of course. It's like people just don't understand football or front offices. Kirk Cousins, who's not nearly as dynamic as Sam, doesn't have Sam's arm, doesn't have. Sam's playmaking was older and coming off a surgery, had a market. In fact, even his cousins this year looked washed. I think you and I have said this. He still has a market. Aaron Rodgers is not close to what he was six years ago. His season was a disaster. Aaron Rodgers has a market. The key is front offices have to pay the right number. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers got it right with Baker. It doesn't limit what they can do. The Cowboys didn't. They paid Dak and Dak and Baker. I think Baker's more talented than Dak. They're very close. I mean, Baker's more reckless, but a little bit more talented. Dak is less reckless, but he's got a lower ceiling. But one got paid like Mahomes and one got paid like a B to B plus quarterback. So Donald's in that B2B plus stuff. If he gets some support, you can't pay him like an A. Now, we thought for a big chunk of the season, like week 10 through week 16, we're like, you got to pay. But this is how the NFL works because of the scarcity of games and because there's one game a week and in the playoffs, they're standalone games, there's a lot of pressure from owners and executives. You got to hit it in the big games. Now, I will say I believe in Brock Purdy a lot. I like him. You know that. I'm team Brock Purdy. Colin, if he holds firm, I want 60 million. I'm not. I would take Sam Darnold at 30 million over Brock Purdy. I'm sorry. I would. And 49ers fans, you tell them that and they're like, you're out of your mind. Brock Purdy. I. I don't think they grasp like double the. He's not double the player Sam Darnold is. He's not. Yeah. You have to remember, you can overpay a right tackle, you can overpay a linebacker, but when you're overpaying a quarterback and he is gobbling up 21% of your salary cap, there are certain things in life that you can't make a mistake on there dayto day. All of us make mistakes. I make 15 a day. But there are certain things, like the safety of your children that you can't make a mistake on. And like in the NFL, not perfectly analogous, but you can make mistakes on a slot corner. And overpaying him, it's not going to destroy your salary cap. You cannot make a mistake at quarterback. It's just there's too much money involved. It's too big of a cap percentage. And I'll remind people, Sam Darnold won 14 games with the Vikings and Kevin O'Connell, you don't think he can duplicate that or come close to it with calcium? No, I mean, I mean, I will say this. Sam Darnold to the Raiders. If the Raiders got an offensive coach, Ben Johnson, I think he would be very, very interesting. But, you know, it's like with Shane Steichen maybe. Does that do anything for you if Anthony Richardson's not their guy and, oh, I'll just tell you right now. I'll tell you right now. Sam Darnold to the Colts is the play. Vikings don't want to face Sam again and and roll the dice on he's better than McCarthy. Get Sam to the AFC where you don't have to play him. J.J. mcCarthy may be better. I would rather Sam not prove me wrong. So if you can always get a guy, Belichick will give up Garoppolo. Let's just send him over to San Francisco. 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They're like a really good student who got a D in their last couple of test scores. Doesn't make him a bad student. Top 10 scoring offense, top five defense. They got out coach last night and they're not as good as Detroit. And frankly the Rams young defense is a sight to behold. But I have the Vikings at nine. Number eight, the inconsistent Houston Texans. Now they're only two and five against playoff teams and they're going to go to Kansas City. It's going to be cold and they're going to probably get smoked. They're nine and oh when holding opponents to 20 points or fewer in Kansas City is getting better on offense, so that's not going to happen. I think they're still a year away. I think Denver's a year away. I think Green Bay is a year away. I do think C.J. stroud's a different quarterback on the road than at home. We told you that going into the Chargers game. CJ Stroud, cold weather on the road. Their season will end. Number seven Commanders. No punts or turnovers against the Bucks. I don't know if I like the team or I'm in love with Jaden Daniels. I mean, the kids just. Honest to God, there's about 60% Mahomes, 60% Lamar Jackson. I. It's the best rookie I've ever seen next to Andrew Locke. Six game winning streak. Each of their last five games have been decided on the last play from scrimmage. You can't do that forever. That's just too emotional, too wild. They, I think they'll lose, but they deserve a ton of respect. How would you like to be Washington for the next 10 years with Jaden Daniels and Cap Space? Sign me up now. Number six. Number six is. The Rams played a perfect game in the first half last night, but they were not good on third down. And their offense can be really sluggish in the first half. Listen, they're really good. Not great, but they're 15 and 5 when they have Stafford and Puka and cup and Kyron Williams. Kyron Williams got dinged up last night. Cross your fingers. And they're 7 and 1 when they score 21 plus. Their offense gets stuck, though. And it happens kind of regularly where their offense gets stuck. But if you give McVeigh or Andy Reid extra time. Good night. And I thought this, this defense is no joke. In the first four weeks of the year, they had eight sacks. They had eight sacks last night. This defense is. Jared Verse is unblockable. This kid right here jumping into the end zone. So the Rams are a young defense that about every three weeks you look up and they're noticeably better. I have the Rams at number six. Number five, Philadelphia. I don't know if. I don't think they can win the super bowl. Yes, they're 13 in one over the last 14 games. They were 2 for 11 on third down. Jalen Hurts went nearly two full quarters without a completion. And I don't love the head coach. I do think they'll beat the Rams because the Rams played perfect and now go outdoors to cold weather. And Philadelphia played poorly and still won. They have the best roster in the NFL. But I mean, Saquon Barkley is the leader of this team. It's not the quarterback, it's not the coach. This is the one team to me like you can like Derek Henry, but I get Lamar and John Harbaugh. Saquon Barkley leads this team. That's the guy in the O line that I trust. Number four. Listen, the Ravens are good boy. They are really dependent on Derrick Henry and Lamar and that would concern me. Three drives of 85 plus yards. You know what I feel about Lamar Jackson. Listen, they're one in five against the Chiefs and they beat everybody else. So I don't think this team would beat Kansas City if they had to play him an arrowhead. I just don't think they would because I think Kansas City is better defensively and I think Baltimore is getting better on the defensive side. They held opponents under 20 points in five straight games. So that's what good coaching staffs do and good general managers do. Baltimore had a flaw and they're now better at the flaw. Kansas City wasn't very good on offense early and now Kansas City is better on offense. That's what good organizations do. So they've cleaned up the mess on defense. I have them there at what do I have the Ravens at 4. Number 3 Detroit Lions, second best roster in football off a by hosting the Commanders. They struggle against mobile quarterbacks, which is not a good thing to struggle against in 2025 in the NFL 6 and 2 against playoff teams. Dan Campbell has a culture of relentlessness. Guys play hurt. Jared Goff for all you Jared Goff critics, this should be a calling was really right for the next 10 years. Jared Goff on third and fourth down this year. 18 touchdowns, no picks best O line in football. Number two, number one. Number two, number two Kansas City. Listen, worst point differential in the history of the league for a team that's as good as them. I know they had a buy and I know they'll be good and I know they'll beat the brakes off of Houston and they are. They are getting stronger late with their musical chairs on the offensive line in Hollywood Brown and they are 72 against current playoff teams and 21 2. But aesthetics matter and data matters. And my number one team in the league, number one is Buffalo. There's never been a team in pro football that had 30 passing touchdowns and over 30 rushing touchdowns. Not only do they win at home, all but one home game was a blowout seven win by 20 points. I think this offense is incredible. Left tackle right now the best remaining in the playoffs. Quarterback most talented remaining in the playoffs. James Cook. Top five running back, two good tight ends, three capable receivers. They are not as good as Kansas City defensively, there is no question. And maybe they don't match up with Baltimore defensively, but I this team right now is so good offensively. Left tackle, quarterback, weapons run game. I have him number one by an inch. I think this is the year. I think this is the best version of Buffalo. Hey, these are tough decisions, folks. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis. And together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved, too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. 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Michael Irvin
They want change.
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Colin Cowherd
What will change look like for energy? Drill baby Drill schools. Take the Department of Education.
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Michael Irvin
Close it.
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Colin Cowherd
Health care better and less expensive. Follow coverage of a changing country. Promises made, promises kept. We're going to keep our promises on the NPR Politics podcast. Listen on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I texted you and you text me back. Now I don't know if you have the update, but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the, the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest, it was a little pink. There was something sentimental when you, like when, when you send it, it's like, do I send the heart now? I don't like the color edition. It's extremely pink. Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you guys get your podcasts. And with that, one of our favorite guests, the Playmaker Michael Irvin, the very well connected Michael Irvin is joining us. So we've got things to talk about. Last night as we're getting ready for the game. Jerry makes sure Deion and the Cowboys makes the Wire, makes the news. So let's talk about that. You have a relationship with Deion Sanders. He has been very loyal. It's been brief, but he loves Colorado. The cowboy hat. He feels the part. You told me a month and a half ago he would listen. Listen to Jerry Jones.
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Michael Irvin
Yes.
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Colin Cowherd
Is he now listening more to Jerry Jones?
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Michael Irvin
Well, you guys now know that he has. He and Jerry has had conversations, which I am so happy now to put that out in the ether. And you guys finding that out. Yes, they. They are having conversations. When I talked to Dion last night and this morning when I was talking to him, he was real, real telling me real carefully, now listen, it's all we can talk about. It's all we can talk about is that. Yeah, it's all I can say is that they are talking. I love when he tells me things like that. Really be careful because I think that means things are moving in a way that we can't just openly talk like we used to openly talk. I can't get out here, run my mouth like I need to. I want to. You know what I'm. I, I don't want to mess anything up, so I make sure I leave it right there. He said that's all we could talk about right now. That they are. They have had conversations. And that is manna from heaven when he tells me that now. Manna from heaven, he had said a.
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Colin Cowherd
Couple years ago when asked about the NFL. He said, I'd have a hard time paying a guy money, and he doesn't care because I care. College kids, I know, you know, we'll cut them on a scholarship. You get stuck with NFL guys. Well, that hasn't changed.
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Michael Irvin
No, no. But. But what you do know, though, is we talk about and we talk about Dion's great ways with young men. These are young men in the NFL. You know, we in college, we consider them to be kids, but these are still young men going through a lot of issues, dealing with a lot of issues. And this is where Deion separates from all of the X's and O's coaches, because he is a true mentor. He's a true mentor. That's coaching. And the other coaches are coaching. And they're forced to mentor. They're forced to mentor. So when we talk about coaching, his. The job is to bring the best out of the player. These guys are making a lot of money. Travis Hunter, he brought the best out of Travis Hunter. And Travis Hunter had all kinds of opportunity to make money. He didn't think about those. Those things. He thought about bringing the best up out of him. He didn't take all the nil money. He followed Dion when Dion went Jackson and he went to. Then he went to Colorado, and now he's living his best life. That's what Dion will do for all the NFL players too. Let's help you get to your best life. And it's not just about making money. It's about making the right decisions. It's about taking care of your family. It's about you and everything that you're doing. That's what he's great at. And that'll bring the best football out of you.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Deion's had a remarkable American life from. From fastest college player to best cornerback of all time, to broadcaster. A lot of spirituality in there. Then to coaching. Small, bigger coaching. If he could end up Dallas Cowboys. It really is an amazing American life.
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Michael Irvin
Now, I will say you say all of that, Colin. But. But. And it is an amazing life. But it has been met with great wins against him. W I N D wind. I mean, you know, people, it's not okay. He's a hell of an athlete. But everywhere this man goes now, everywhere this man go, when he went to Jackson, oh, it won't work out there. Oh, no, he turned that around. He went to Colorado. Oh, boy. You'll see when you get to big time. Football is different, but he turned that around. And here we come again with the same doubt with Dion. Well, what could he do in Dallas? I tell people everywhere this man has set his foot in the sand. He leaves a footprint of greatness. So Dallas needs to get on board with that, and I hope they do. I gotta. I can't say much about that, by the way.
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Colin Cowherd
You have a relationship. You and Aikman have a relationship with Jerry.
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Michael Irvin
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
That is different than a lot of people. And did. Can I ask Jerry, who now does acting? He's pretty good on Landman. Yes, he's pretty good showman. Do you. Has Jerry called you recently just to chat about this?
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Michael Irvin
I talked with Jerry when we were. We had fight and we were somewhere else. So. Yeah, I was at his house. We had an event at his place.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay. So.
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Michael Irvin
Yeah, we talked in the last couple weeks. Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay. All right. I. Look, let's talk about the future of Dallas.
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Michael Irvin
Back up. Let's back up too.
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Colin Cowherd
All right.
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Michael Irvin
And I heard Detroit comments. And you know I love Troy. I love Troy to death. And it's to life. I better say the life because Deanna called me on that.
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Colin Cowherd
Is it. Is it a coveted job?
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Michael Irvin
That's what I want to talk about.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't know if it is. Philadelphia's roster, Jaden Daniels, 90 million cap space. I don't know if it's a coveted job. I'm not saying it's Colorado State.
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Michael Irvin
Stop, y'all. We gotta stop. We gotta stop. We gotta stop. We gotta stop.
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Colin Cowherd
Prove it to me.
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Michael Irvin
What? Easily, easily. How many? How many coaches out here coaching what, A couple hundred thousand? Cocoa. Coaching all over college, high school. 100,000 coaches.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, no, no, no. 50,000 max.
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Michael Irvin
Head coaches. I'm talking everything. Okay? Even 50,000, there are only 32 jobs in the national football. 32. Each one of those jobs going to pay you above north to somewhere, six, seven million dollars a year. How. How do I fix this ra Face to face? Something like what I say, like what he said. I love him. But how do you fix the radio on your face to sing a song like it's not a coveted job. It's the Dallas Cowboys. There are only 32 of them in this whole wide world, and you talking about 50,000 max. We talking about United States. That coaches all over the world that probably wants to come and coach if they knew how to coach National Football League. Let's stop saying stuff like this. Let's stop saying. This is what you call hyperbole. It's superfluous words that you just throwing out here to sound like something, but it's not true. It has no truth to it. This is a covenant job. All 32 of them are coveted jobs in this country and mostly probably in this world. So that right there is not right to even say that. All right? Now, the Cowboys is as covenant as any other team in the National Football League.
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Colin Cowherd
Now, I know Jerry's your friend. I know he's your friend. So what I'm going to say right.
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Michael Irvin
Now, George, my friend too. You my a lot of friends. But I can't lie. I'm telling the truth.
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Colin Cowherd
I would say this. Jerry is. That's why he's so good on Landman. He's a performer. He. He loves the media. There are those in the NFL that say, well, you had Jimmy and Parcells and basically you ran them off. I think what Troy was saying is, oh, it's a job. But it does sort of feel like you got to answer a lot of questions about Jerry's Recent radio report. Doesn't that get in the way a little?
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Michael Irvin
No, no, not if you're doing your job. I don't care what Jerry says. I'm winning football games. I'm doing my job. You can do what they say, whatever you want. Who cares? I'm doing my job. And we. This is what I'm saying, guys. We, we. The owner talks. My issue is, is that, is that why we so hard on Jerry? Because he talks and does radio interviews? What's the separation between Jerry and the Rooneys? What's the separation? I keep bringing this up and nobody tells me anything. I'm almost getting afraid to bring it up now because the Rooneys must have something on everybody. I don't know what's going on, but the Rooneys run all of the organization in Pittsburgh and they haven't given Mike Tumblin what he wants. But we want to run Mike Tumblin out. But when it comes to the Cowboys, it's all Jerry's fault. Any failure or any not seed succeeding is all Jerry's fault. Everywhere else. It's just a coach. In Pittsburgh, it's just a coach. Nobody's put anything on the Rooneys in Pittsburgh and they haven't found a quarterback in a hundred years.
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Colin Cowherd
But Jerry's different. He is a different owner. He does radio hits. He talks after the game. He's right. He's a. How many owners would go on Landman and look like an actor?
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Michael Irvin
But does that mean because Jerry's doing an interview that is not a covenant job? Can we take it that, that far? Can we say that? Does that mean because Jerry's doing interview that he hasn't done a good job when he gave you 12 and 5 talent every year over the last three years? So, so come on. I don't mind. You're not liking them. I don't mind.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't know.
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Michael Irvin
I, I understand all that. A lot of people don't know him, but a lot of people don't like them. But, but. And that's why this stuff perpetuates itself so much. I'm just saying, man, let's look at the reality and measure the reality and stop having these crazy conversations about this is not a coveted job.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay?
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Michael Irvin
Yes, it is.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm gonna throw something. I'm interested in your answer for this. So, years ago I went to a therapist. I. I don't do it a lot, but I went to a therapist.
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Michael Irvin
Best thing in the world.
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Colin Cowherd
And so my wife and I were arguing about something and the therapist said to Me. He goes, you have a different brain than your wife. She's an artist. You're more accountant. And we don't argue anymore.
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Michael Irvin
Pretty good.
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Colin Cowherd
She sees colors, you see shapes. So when you criticize her for this, she sees the world differently than you. And then. And so I share this with my wife, and she said, yeah, I'm smarter than you. Get over it. The point being, it did change the way I view arguments.
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Michael Irvin
Right.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm always thinking, I see the world in squares and circles. She sees it in shades of lavender. So A.J.
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Michael Irvin
Brown, you got to come to her and say, okay. When you say something, say, okay. How did you. How did you receive.
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Colin Cowherd
That's right.
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Michael Irvin
How did you receive it?
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Colin Cowherd
So an A.J. brown, right, is reading a book on the sidelines.
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Michael Irvin
I was. I was happy.
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Colin Cowherd
That made you happy?
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Michael Irvin
Oh, yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay. See, our. My brain works differently. Well, how. What did you see?
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Michael Irvin
Because AJ Is me. Me and AJ we are alike. I had to learn when I left football. Of course, I had some mistakes and missteps in football. So I said to myself, you're not catching any more touchdowns. Let's figure out why we have some of the situations we have. You know, I gotta figure this out. And I was reading and trying to study and learn more about me. I ran up on this book. It's a great book called Edison Gene the gift of the ADHD child. And in this book, they're talking about what A.J. brown. What A.J. brown was doing here. What he's doing is trying to calm what you call his reptilian brain. Anytime anyone in the third trimester of a mother's pregnancy, if she's stressed in any way, cortisol is released to the brain of the baby, telling the baby to prepare for a flight or fight environment. Because that's what his mom did.
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Colin Cowherd
You guys heard that before?
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Michael Irvin
Yeah, his mom is there, so. So his reptilian brain kind of get a little stuck. He's more apt to fight than reason. Like me. I'm more apt to fight you. You confront me than reason with you. And it serves me great on the football field. But when I'm driving down the street and somebody says, put on, I have to figure out how to say, you know, the book will tell you. The book will tell you, knowing that you're like, this is 75% of just is how. So you see.
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Colin Cowherd
You see yourself in A.J. brown?
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Michael Irvin
Oh, absolutely. Oh, absolutely. That's why when everybody said, what is he doing? I said, the man is totally focused. This is totally focused. I'm focused on my Energy being good energy for the team. And I'm going to focus on me. And I know I can't let this situation take over me. I understand it because he and I are the same dude. I understand what he was doing right there. And I think all of us, a lot of receivers need to learn it and even do this right here, what he's doing, because it really is brilliant. They got through the game, and he was out there joking when Saquon didn't go all the way and run, you know what I mean? So he put him back in the right frame of mind even though he only got one pass. I don't know if the book could have helped me with one pass in a playoff game, but it helped him. And that's good.
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Colin Cowherd
That's good.
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Michael Irvin
I don't know. I would have been saying, you know.
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Colin Cowherd
It'S funny about that. I'll share something with the audience. I had lunch with Rich Eisen a couple months ago, and we. We were talking.
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Michael Irvin
That's my man, too.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. And I said we had great affection for you. And we said, you know, and you've had some missteps in life. Haven't we all? Yours have been more public.
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Michael Irvin
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
And. And our take was you're a curious person. You're great. You have great empathy. And. And we both shared kind of the same stories that we had such great feelings for you because you acknowledged stuff. You admit stuff. You're imperfect, but you're. You're. You. You always. You always come back to Michael at your heart. And I think what you're saying now, you're addressing this with A.J. brown. I love that you're saying, guys, this is me, and everybody learns differently. Right. Everything lands differently. That's the.
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Michael Irvin
There.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm not. I don't want to bore the audience.
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Michael Irvin
But you can't take. You can't take that side of me without realizing this. This side of me. And. And I'm working on this side of me.
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Colin Cowherd
That's right.
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Michael Irvin
Let me get this book out and work through me. You see what I mean? But. And that's just the difference.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay. I'm watching the Rams last night, and there are times you had one with Jimmy Johnson. Very few players get an all time great coach. You had Jimmy Johnson, and I'm watching McVeigh last night.
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Michael Irvin
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
He's got Shanahan's brain. He's got Jimmie Johnson's understanding of personnel. He's got Andy Reid's play design. He's got Dan Campbell's ability to give you big Alpha Energy. I didn't see a game. I saw a little bit of a coaching mismatch last night. How is McVay viewed around the league?
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Michael Irvin
And I'm with you on this. I think Mava is an incredible coach. An incredible coach. Even a year they won that Super Bowl. To have that kind of talent on that team and not have any kind of situations from that team was incredible. That means he managed all of those personalities. Yeah, there's a lot of personalities.
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Colin Cowherd
And now he's got the crisis, the tragedy in Southern California around his facility, and he.
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Michael Irvin
And he puts it right in and use it. He uses it. He doesn't run away from it. He says to guys, hey, let's give our people back home something.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Michael Irvin
To get away from the mess they're dealing with. Let's make some greatness out of that great mess, you know, and let's get. Let's try to ride this. Every team this time of the year tries to find that hook.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes.
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Michael Irvin
That hooks them in. Like, that's why we always call it what man is also against the world. Ain't nobody saying nothing. What do you mean? They just start saying that you guys are undefeated right now. Who's against you? But we always come up with these mantras. You're looking for a hook, you're looking for the hook. And this disaster has given the Rams one. And they played like it was a hook. Like, we're going to give these people some relief from what the deal, what they've been dealing with. And they. Boy, they. They laid it out on the Vikings last night with them nine sacks. I mean, they played well.
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Colin Cowherd
So when you were a cowboy, the coach and the quarterback were the centerpiece of the team. And then you and Emmett were viewed as the. The weaponry. But it was a very quarterback, strong coach and quarterback personality. Philadelphia is interesting. I don't trust the coach. I think the center of the team is Saquan Barkley. I think the center of the team is the O line. And I don't know if you can win a Super bowl in 20, 25. And that's not a knock on Jalen hurts. I like him, but he's not Lamar Mahomes. Statistically, he's not golf. He's not Josh Allen. I don't think he's Stafford from the pocket. What do you make of a Philadelphia team where the coach is yelling at fans where the quarterback is kind of inconsistent? Can you win a Super bowl with that?
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Michael Irvin
I. I love that analogy that you just laid out and how you tracked it, you know, when you talk about the, the solidness of this team, I think Jalen Hurts is a great leader, a great leader. But Saquon has brought something different.
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Colin Cowherd
It's totally different.
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Michael Irvin
And, and let me tell you, and I was just talking about Jalen, I mean, A.J. brown on the sideline, reading the book, and then him and devontae Smith, man, why don't you keep running with. Go, go, go with the ball. I would have said keep running. Go down on the one yard line if you're going to go down the line.
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Colin Cowherd
I love that play.
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Michael Irvin
Right? Why you love. You know why you love it? Let me tell you why you love it. Let me tell you why I think you love it. Because it just said to all of Philadelphia, hey, I'm totally not selfish. I. Any other running back would have gone and got the rest of those yards before he sat down because that's part of the great season you've had. You had a 2,000 yard rushing season, you're gonna have 100 and something. Do you know all of that?
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Colin Cowherd
Do you know how cognitively quick you have to be as a running back? The last guy in football you can hit from any angle. That Saquon Barkley, who didn't play the last week and could have set the record, right? So you could have that animosity, you break free to seal it. And he is so in the moment that he said, no, it's about us, not me.
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Michael Irvin
I got to talk about the ability.
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Colin Cowherd
In the moment to go, I'm gonna sit down right here. I was just like, oh, that dude's. That dude's going a thousand miles an hour right now.
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Michael Irvin
Let me tell you how I saw it. I said, oh, wow. Two things of that. Boy, that's great because I saw Devonte and, and, and A.J. brown. What are you doing? Keep going, keep going, keep going. So he's showing them something here. Showing them, hey, man, it ain't even about them numbers. It's about us getting the championship. And I love that part of it. I did not like the interview afterwards when he said, oh, well, you know, there are things that could have happened. I could have pulled the hamstrings. And I said, oh, God, I don't hear why. Because, because I want, that's why I wanted him to get the record last week at the end of the week, end of the season, because I wanted him to exercise that demon in his career. What's been the demon in his career? It's been injuries. And, and if you go past and say, I'm gonna get this record. I'm not going to let that demon make me afraid to go and get the record. I believe that demon also made him afraid to continue running. That's why he fell down. Now, he was going to fall down on the one, but let's go get those other 60 yards. He has to deal with that. But the lesson he gave AJ Brown and devontae Smith, that was a great lesson, but he has to deal with that in his own mind. I'm so good at this, people. That's what I do because it's real. These guys, I've dealt with it. I had to study it because I had to calm my black butt down. I was crazy. You just gotta study these things. Don't just study what you do. Go learn why you did it. Don't just hear what people say. Understand how they think. That's how you win in life.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, When's the last time Dion and you text each other? Could you give us the time on that?
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Michael Irvin
This morning.
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Colin Cowherd
This morning?
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Michael Irvin
This morning. Yeah, of course.
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Colin Cowherd
And that's for the audience that just tuned in. He said to you what?
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Michael Irvin
Well, I can only tell you so much that you can't be telling the world everything is what he said to me. That's why I'm trying to thin this line right here. But, but, but they are. But they are talking. And to me, that's heaven. I'm in. I'm. I'm enjoy. Because I talked about this yesterday with, with, with Keyshawn and Joy, of course, Paul on speaking. They were talking about, well, what's the plan with Jerry? Jerry was going in, trying to make it work with Mike McArthur, but they couldn't agree on the years. I said, oh, that's great. And so now before Jerry let you guys win and talk like he didn't have a plan, he'll go out. This will make him go. Go and do something differently and more drastic because he. I've heard him said many times, I've always come out on top when forced to do something or make a hard decision. It always worked out and this time will be the same thing. I really do believe that. So all the Mike McCarthy fallout and Jerry wanted him and didn't get him or push this billionaire to go do something that he probably wouldn't have normally done, like a hire a Deion Sanders or like that. So I, I'm. I'm excited to see what plays out. I'm gonna try to keep these, these big old lips. I got clothes like Dion ass. But It's a hard task. He understood it. He understood. He knows it's hard because. Because I'm excited, too. So I got to control myself.
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Colin Cowherd
Michael Irvin, the playmaker is always my friend.
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Michael Irvin
And I love you, too, buddy. You're my man.
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Colin Cowherd
Great seeing you.
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Michael Irvin
I'm so happy right now, y'all, because we're gonna have a good offseason. It gives us hope again.
- [57:05]
Colin Cowherd
Hope.
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Michael Irvin
When I say I'm happy. I'm not happy about any man getting fired, but just happy about new direction and what's happening and what's going to happen.
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Colin Cowherd
All right.
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Michael Irvin
We're about to be in prime time. I mean, football games. Y'all know what I mean? Let me leave that alone.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm in la. It's the herd.
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Michael Irvin
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Colin Cowherd
Lately on the NPR Politics podcast, we're talking about a big question. How much can one guy change?
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Michael Irvin
They want change.
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Colin Cowherd
What will change look like for energy? Drill baby Drill schools.
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Michael Irvin
Take the Department of Education. Close it.
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Colin Cowherd
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