Matt Hasselbeck (12:56)

By the way, I forgot to ask.

Colin Cowherd (12:57)

Who'S quarterbacking the Pittsburgh Steelers next season? It's got to be Aaron Rogers, right? Really? And is Pickens on the roster in like, three weeks or do they trade him for a pick? I mean, again, Pickens gets frustrated in Pittsburgh. He's a huge talent. You put Pickens in Kansas City, it's like, oh, that, that would be interesting, you know, given what happened over the weekend with Xavier Worthy getting in trouble with the law. Maybe that's a great fit for Pickens. Yeah, worthy fans tend to think we're picking on their teams and it's like, it's just like you. There are some jobs, if you're watching or listening to my show, there are some bosses and jobs that are a great fit for your personality and then there are places that aren't right. Like, like. And so it's just the same thing with players. Everybody thinks this is about players this week and it's really about the organizations know what the hell they're doing or they just making Hail Mary's to solve previous decisions. 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I didn't think that make any sense. I thought they were trying to do him a solid within the organization to show everybody hey Sam's great. We're considering re signing him and I think in the end it never made a lot of sense where Colin was wrong. Apparently Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers are talking. This doesn't work for me as a fit at all. First of all Aaron's a California cool guy and the Steelers culture is defense. It's super conservative. They can't get their offensive line right. I don't like that for Aaron. I mean, I'm sure he respects Mike Tomlin, I get that. But this is not how like if Aaron went to the Vikings and followed, you know, the Favre trajectory, like that would make sense. Good left tackle, great receiver, good offensive coach, stability in the organization. I don't get Pittsburgh at all. I, I, I, I read this and I think that it's, that's a miss to me where Collin was right. Steph Curry now 11 and 1 when Jimmy Butler I'm going to give myself another right. I had said a month before the move, just sign him. Anytime Steph's had a legitimate one or a two around him, the team is a Western Conference finals or at least competitive for it. Steph now is shooting 42% on threes since Jimmy Butler arrived and to me it feels like Jimmy Butler has been a B12 shot in the hip for Steph Curry. Not like he just learned how to play. But when you're on a treadmill to a play in game for a superstar that's 37 years old. Nah, that's not it. This move is perfect top to bottom where Colin was wrong. I don't think this is a bad move at all. But Geno Smith getting another big contract in the NFL surprised me. He was 21st last couple of years in QBR, which isn't the be all end all. He, you know, he throws a lot of picks and Pete Carroll doesn't like those. But where I will say it makes sense. He's an adult, he's accurate, he gets a lot of yards and the Raiders have no stability at coach and quarterback. So Pete Carroll and Geno Smith, you know, it suddenly feels sort of like Seattle. You get your way into the playoffs, tough division maybe, but I it caught me off guard. Gino may get another three or four year big money deal where Colin was right. Pay your great players early. The Bills signed Josh Allen, but they've moved off Von Miller. I never got the Von Miller deal. In fact, since he arrived, their defense actually got worse. Three straight seasons he was injured a lot. I thought the Rams moved off him at the perfect time. He became sort of a pass rush specialist which for what they were paying him, it doesn't make a lot of sense. I just, my people around the league didn't think it was a good move. I didn't. And I mean they got some sacks out of it and he's a big play guy but for the money and the injuries, it never made sense where Colin was wrong. I thought when the Mavericks made the Luka AD deal, I said, you know what? You can bang on the Mavericks, but short term they'll probably be better. I like the roster. Yeah, but I'm wrong since the entire roster is hurt. P.J. washington, Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis, Daniel Gafford, Derek Lively. They are now lost five straight. They are a mess. Everything's bad. The karma, the injuries. Watch them a little this weekend. Yeah, I, I, I thought for a year to two years you would kind of look and go, did Dallas get the better part of this deal? No, not at all. Where Colin was right. I've said, when you get a gift in life, accept it. And I've been critical of the WNBA because they got Caitlin Clark, their Steph Curry and they're fighting it. They did it again this weekend where apparently top players want to go on strike. Angel, Reese, we should go on strike. The league's never made a profit. It's been subsidized by the NBA. This has been my knock on the wnba. It's a league that was growing and then Caitlin Clark was that once in a generation, Jet fuel, like a Michael Jordan, a Steph Curry, a LeBron. You just don't get those. When you get a gift like Tiger woods to the PGA Tour, you put your arm around it, you put him on tv. You understand that it's generational, a complete outlier. And what has the WNBA done? Complain about it. Strike. You go on strike when you have massive leverage. The league doesn't turn a profit. It's paid for by the NBA. This league just can't commissioner down, can't get it right. Can't get it right. And it's too bad because the quality of play today in the WNBA, much better than eight to 10 years ago. Much better. With that, Matt Hasselbeck, 18 years in the NFL, 10 of those with the Seahawks, joins us. You know, I said, Matt, that not all acquisitions are like star receiver. Do you fit? What's the quarterback like? I think Devonte Adams on the Matt Stafford timeline for a really smart offensive organization and kind of a one year deal works. You may disagree with DK Metcalf. Five year deal to an organization that doesn't have a quarterback, can't get the O line right, is kind of tone deaf offensively. That feels like a little bit of a Hail Mary to me. Like, okay, we'll solve our offensive problems. Here's another receiver that wants the ball. Do you like DK Metcalfe? The Steelers.

Matt Hasselbeck (23:38)

I kind of do, Colin, because I do think that it solves some of their problems in a roundabout way. You know, a lot of times in free agency or the draft, like beauty's in the, in the eye of the beholder. And Mike Tomlin sees something in DK DK Metcalf that he's like, that's what I need. That fits exactly the kind of guy I need. The competitor, the physicality, like all that kind of stuff. And they've missed on the quarterback. They haven't had high level quarterback play in a while and they've had a, you know, a struggle with running the football. I think that they believe that this will help them get rid of those problems. They will all of a sudden be very, very attractive to a quarterback who wants to come play there. And if you have the weapons that they have on the outside, plus the tight end, I think they're going to do a much better job of having the light box to run the ball. So very similar to what Arthur Smith had when he had Brown back when he was the offensive coordinator in, in Tennessee they had him and it sort of opened things up for Derrick Henry in the run game just a little bit more than it otherwise would have.

Colin Cowherd (24:40)

I thought time had played out Geno in Seattle, but I like it for the Raiders because they just need stability in a grown up and an adult. What did you make of Geno following Pete Carroll to the Raiders?

Matt Hasselbeck (24:51)

I was a little surprised that Seattle and Gino couldn't figure something out. You know, I think, I think they probably offered him something like Stafford money, old Stafford, and he wanted something maybe more like Dak money. And like that's just like the, the, you know, when it gets in these negotiating, sometimes feelings get hurt. And I think feelings got hurt maybe even last year when guys like Jordan Love were to get new deals and Tua and Trevor Lawrence and like, hey, when's my deal? When's my deal? But the Seahawks don't do deals with guys until they're in that last year of the, of the contract. And so then on the side here you got his, his guy, Pete Carroll coming to Las Vegas with a smile on his face, loving him up. You're the man. You're the man. I give you that same contract. And then after, after a little bit, I think he's probably as the player, it kind of gets in this mode, like, well, why don't I go somewhere that loves me even if the money's maybe not even the same or if it is the same. Yeah, and for that reason, I think you've seen a lot of change in Seattle.

Colin Cowherd (25:48)

So where are the Seahawks at? The now Seahawk fans may be freaking out. I think they looked around the room and thought, we just don't feel like Gino can get us to the next level. Seattle's got a much better culture roster right now, in my opinion, than the Raiders. What are the Seahawks doing right now? Where are they at?

Matt Hasselbeck (26:04)

I think they like everybody at a price. But listen, I just think this is Mike McDonald's team. You know, they got rid of Ryan Grubb, they got rid of DK Geno Smith. Tyler Lockett moves on. He's a cap casualty, which probably pained them. I know they love Tyler Lockett, but they're going from sort of like this pass, happy we can throw it. Throw the ball, vertical down the field to a Mike McDonald. Feels like a Harbaugh. Harbaugh type thing. We're going to have the top 10 defense. We're going to figure it out on offense in terms of, like, ball first. And if. Think if you look at the trends around the league and Mike McDonald, he's, you know, people think of him as this, like, young defensive version of a Sean McVay. He's looking at the trends. The best teams are the teams that can run the football, and that's sort of the identity. Great defense run the football. That's his vision for the program. Not necessarily four wides all the time. And, you know, how vertical can we be in the passing game? And I think you've seen a switch in that in terms of what they're doing in free agency, who they hired as their offensive coordinator. And I think it's kind of exciting to see what's next.

Colin Cowherd (27:09)

So the Niners, a story came out that the Niners, it leaked out, are going to be much more hard line on contracts, much more like the Rams. And I agree. I think they've been too permissive. You know, the saying I always use is ice cream for breakfast, dad. Like, okay, whatever, we'll give you the money. And I think the Rams have been better run that way. I think they have more leverage with Brock Purdy than anybody's acknowledging. What do you make of the Purdy Niner negotiations?

Matt Hasselbeck (27:35)

Yeah, I agree with you 100% in breakfast for dinner is a bad idea. Sorry, sorry. Dessert for breakfast is a bad idea, but breakfast for dinner is a great idea, in my opinion.

Colin Cowherd (27:45)

Yeah.

Matt Hasselbeck (27:46)

Yeah. Listen, I think Brock Purdy in the Niners will get something worked out. There's a lot of reasons Why I feel that way. First of all, I think he's a great player. I don't think he gets a lot of credit that he, that he deserves. But he's also a guy that's never been paid. And when you've never been paid, like, I think he's made like two point something in his career. By contrast, Kenny Pickett' made like 11 point something in his career. So like you have a guy that has never really been paid, quote unquote, as a quarterback, he's more likely to do a deal that's, I don't want to say hometown discount, but like, hey, let's just get a deal. I don't have as much leverage. But this is their guy. Like, this is the Niners guy. The Niners believe in him, but they also know that if he were to sort of test the market, they like him more than other people like him. And so like, so that's why, like you hear these other names out there, like, I really just think that they'll figure it out and it'll just be a deal that sort of, I think maybe you would say win, win, but you also might come out of it feeling like, well, Brock Purdy probably could have squeezed them for a little bit more, but he didn't. And ultimately, I think you've seen over the, you know, guys like Tom Brady and their career, it actually works out better for the team that way. When the money spread out just a little bit more.

Colin Cowherd (28:55)

Go to your last couple years in the league. I don't like Aaron to the Steelers, although DK Metcalf, in your opinion, probably makes it better. I think he could work in seatt battle if the number's right. I could think San Francisco at Brock Purdy said, I want 48 million. I could, I would have no problem go with Aaron Rodgers. Where do you, what do you think his mind is Older quarterback got his money, got his trophy. Where's Aaron at right now?

Matt Hasselbeck (29:19)

I would think he'd want to be on a great team, you know, and you want to be on a team that's relevant at the end, that has weapons that can protect me, but that also has weapons and a coaching staff that I like, that I trust and I'm almost intrigued to go play with them. I'm excited to go to work. You know, I think that the. I would, I would expect Sam Darnold in Seattle, but I think with Aaron, I would not discount the relationship and the history that GM John Schneider has with Aaron Rodgers. You know, back in the day in Green Bay, John Schneider and Aaron Rodgers, that would make sense. But, but after they make a strong run at someone like Sam Darnold, Pittsburgh, you know, I think sometimes later in a quarterback's career when they maybe have humbled themselves a little bit, they say, okay, you know what, I can go to that point guard role. I can. I think what he was supposed to be in New York with the jets, maybe that could work this time around with Mike Tomlin, with Arthur Smith, with these incredible wide receivers that they now have a great tight end and like maybe it's a run first offense and Aaron brings his intangibles and his leadership and his experience to the party. That's an interesting one. But I think that's also one that would, would be a plan B, I would think.

Colin Cowherd (30:31)

Okay, finally, I want to talk Chicago Bears for a second. So last year the entire talk was oh, wide receiver, wide receiver. This year they get a new coach from Detroit which not so coincidentally has a great O line. They go get guard, center guard. They went and just got the guard from the Atlanta Falcons. And my take is this is what a couple years ago Andy Reid did Tuni from the Patriots. This is what Sean McVay did, Dotson from the Steelers. I actually love, except for Ryan, polls. Basically the new coach is saying, yeah, you missed on all your interior lineman picks. I love what the Bears are doing, but I don't think it makes headlines. What say you?

Matt Hasselbeck (31:09)

Yeah, well, the number one thing I think in Chicago is that Ryan Poles and Ben Johnson are aligned. Philosophically, that's, that's number one. And I think philosophically you're seeing Ben Johnson come in with that Detroit Lions playbook and you know, like, basically we're going to build it inside out. We're going to set the foundation up front. And I've said many times, like if you have pass protection as a quarterback, you can take good quarterbacks and make them look great if you just have pass protection and then the opposite is true. And so like I just, I really think they have to figure out the sack situation in Chicago. I was pretty blunt with you all year. I thought a lot of those sacks didn't fall on the offensive line. But those things snowball and so I think they hit the reset button and they're going to go with veterans up front who are going to do their job and then they're going to probably coach the quarterback hard. And I think that's sort of like the vision and the game plan. But all you got to look to is the, in the division look at Detroit, how they built it, how they did it. That's what I think you're seeing out of Chicago right now.

Colin Cowherd (32:10)

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So he's six months younger than Joe Burrow, five months younger than Lamar Jackson, a year younger than Josh Allen, and you get him for 35, 36 million bucks. He got a Baker Mayfield contract. Sorry for butchering the math. He got a Baker Mayfield contract. I'm totally comfortable. You know, Gino wanted 10 million more than this. And I think Darnold's better than Geno. Maybe not by a lot, but he's better. And he's also in his prime. You know, Gino is a young. What is he, 33, 34. Sam is, is younger than many of the elite quarterbacks in the league. So I'm telling you, I, I, I think John Snyder is a really effective gm. He's like, we like Chino. We don't like the number. We like Darnold. We like the number. We've been saying this for six months. Sam coming back west sc, San Francisco. Now he's with the Seahawks. This is a good number for Sam. Same thing. They like DK Metcalf, but they got a pick and they didn't want to pay him. What? What? DK Metcalf. 31 million a year. So they got a quarterback for slightly more than DK Metcalf would have cost him. That's good GMing. I mean, DK was 31 million. This guy's 35, 36 million. And he touches the ball every offensive snap, and he's still in his prime and he doesn't cause any headaches. So, I mean, let's see. Yeah, basically Sam signed a deal that is basically A salary cap adjusted version of the contract Gino got in 2023. A very reasonable contract. So you're seeing really good GMing and very weird GMING today. Love what the Patriots are doing. Love this move by John Snyder. I like what they did in Tampa. I love what the Chicago Bears did, which is shocking to say that. So there's been some very good GMing. So, Colin, essentially, with 55 million guaranteed to Darnold, this is a two year deal. That's right. At 27 million. That's right. I know that everybody wants to see 110 mil. It's really 55 mil guaranteed for two years. That's what it is. Yeah. And at 27 million years, that's pretty good. That's a. That's. That's the Baker. I mean, that's going to be good, but they're going to be like a 500 team at best. Be very careful with. Go ahead, go ahead. Put them in Patriots territory if you want. Go for it. I have them battling the Niners for number two in the division. You can't win them all, Colin. Well, last year I almost did. You gotta be honest. All right. What a show. So much fun. Better go buy my Seahawk jersey. Okay. Live in Los Angeles, it's heard. This is Nikki Glazer from the Nikki Glaser podcast. On a more serious note, I'm still thinking about that commercial with Tom Brady and Snoop Dogg hating on each other. Because when you listen to the reasons for hating someone or something, you realize just how stupid they really are. There is too much hate in this country and it's gotta stop. So join us at iHeart in standing up to it. If you see hate, speak up, call it out and you can learn more by following up with Hannah. What's up, everyone?

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