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Colin Cowherd
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Totally versatile. Always works. Listen. Baseball season's here. The perfect time to kick back with some Tito's. It's what I pour. You should too. Distilled and bottled by 5th Generation Inc. Austin, Texas. 40% alcohol by volume. Savor responsibly. Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. It is a Tuesday. Welcome in. There is a lot going on. We are live. It is the herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be watching or listening or downloading. Thanks for making us part of your day. You know, we're getting into injury reports now. J. Mac are very crucial for quarterbacks in perspective because people are going crazy on stuff. But I think we would both agree the two best rookie quarterbacks, because I remember John Elway, but I don't remember game by game, the two best rookie quarterbacks I've ever seen are Andrew Locke, who won 11 games with a bad roster. It didn't have a right coach, didn't have the right gm, didn't have the right O line, didn't have the right anything. And then Jaden Daniels last year, who you know ends up in the NFC championship. I mean those, those guys looked it just unbelievable. Bo Nix was good. Jaden Daniels, you know, there were times you're like he's the third, fourth best quarterback in the league. So sometimes we lack perspective. And yesterday Mike Sando, who will be joining us in a couple hours, he came out with his annual survey of 50 NFL executives. It's called quarterback tears. And it should be noted that Jaden Daniels, the rookie got 13 more Tier 1 votes than the rest of his division combined because Jalen Hurts got three and Dak got one. But it, but it is interesting. Here's where it's different from Andrew Luck. Jaden Daniels got some breaks. Number one, he didn't go to Chicago. They can't get quarterback right. Number two, he didn't get a coach on the hot seat. Number three, he didn't get the oldest and arguably strangest ownership group in the NFL, the McCaskeys. That stuff matters. Instead, he goes to Washington and his looney owner got flushed out the at the end of that last season. So he gets a new owner, new gm, new coach, new momentum, new culture with a very, very mature number one wide receiver. And he wasn't the number one pick. He was the number two pick. And we always spend more time talking about the number one pick. So I'm not saying he landed in Kansas City like with Andy Reed and Mahomes, but ask yourself this. And I love Jaden Daniels, but this is where Andrew Luck has him be. Think about the winningest quarterbacks in the last several years in the NFL. Mahomes, Lamar, Josh, Allen, Jaden Herz, Jordan, love. What do they have in common? None of them entered the league in chaos. Here's who did. Bryce Young, Caleb Williams, Justin Herbert, Trevor Lawrence. Not so shockingly. They've had bumpier roads and more turbulence. I mean, a great example is Bo nix. Half the GMs were not high on him. He gets Sean Payton, a good old line. He looks great. Caleb Williams. Everybody kind of thought he was special, bad everything. Coach, coordinators, O line. He looks completely lost. So don't undervalue even for somebody as good as as Jaden Daniels, don't undervalue how many breaks he got. I mean the owner, sharp, the general manager, Adam Peters, super sharp. Cliff Kingsbury may not be a head coach, excellent coordinator. The O line, PFF had it ranked number 10, a mature receiver at number one. And even if he wasn't mature, he's a number one receiver and a very workable schedule. Remember this? Jaden Daniels only one time last year beat a playoff team and that was against Philadelphia when Jalen Hurts got hurt and most of the game he faced Kenny Pickett. So if you look at the quarterbacks he beat, it was Daniel Jones twice, Kyler Murray, Deshaun Watson and the disaster in Cleveland. Andy Dalton, Caleb Williams, Will Levis, Jake Hayner, Michael Pennix, Trey Lance and Kenny Pickett. He played Lamar Baker and Jalen Hurts. He lost. He even lost to Russell Wilson. So two things can be true. I think he's just tremendous player, but the landing spot is really crucial. And what you think of Washington is what a mess. They weren't a mess. They had all new people. Remember before J. Mac and I argued about this, J. Mac said, how can you be good with all that change? And I said, when all the stuff you flushed out was awful and all the new stuff is good, I am for change. And I told you I thought he was going to look like Lamar Jackson. Not quite as nimble athletically, but much better in the pocket. And that's what happened. But do I think Jaden Daniels, if you put him in Carolina, would have been that I do not. Where you land really matters. So speaking of where you land. So here's more bad news for the Niners, specifically a wide receiver, Brandon Iuk, who is their best deep threat and their most talented wide receiver, is now reportedly going to be back in week six. So for the uninitiated, those not paying attention, not playing fantasy football, let me give you an update on the fairly important position for a quarterback, the wide receiver unit for the Niners. Debo. Jayden Daniels has him now. Debo's gone. Brandon Iuk can't play until Week 6. Juwan Jennings contract dispute, not happy and he's hurt. Ricky Pearsall, year two at 31 catches, he's fine. He's not a one, he's probably a 2ish. And DeMarcus Robinson, not a big volume guy. He may be suspended to start the season. So Basically, if Christian McCaffrey, let's say twists an ankle, the great Brock Purdy will have one of the weakest skill groups in the NFL. And remember last year he was one in six against playoff teams. But my take on this is well this is real life in the NFL. This is not, this is not Brock Purdy's first 21 games people were healthy, stacked roster, excellent defense, didn't have to win shootouts. He was very good in his first 21 starts but in his last 15 starts it looks like this current wide receiver group, he's 6 and 9, 20 touchdowns, 12 picks and a passer rating in the mid-90s. Why his teammates are older, they're brittle. They brought in Robert Sala to help the defense but Greenlaw Defunger are gone and outside of Bosa they don't have any real dominant players up front. So he's got to win more shootouts and he doesn't have as many great players when he came into the league his first year as rookie for all pros just on offense. This offense, if Christian McCaffrey twists an ankle is not good. It's George Kittle and cross your fingers because Ricky Pearsall is not a one. Juwan Jennings is not happy and hurt DeMarcus Robinson isn't the answer regardless of the question. Brandon Iuk week six at the earliest and Debo's gone and my take is in those last 15 starts. I looked up this this morning in eight games last season when they asked Brock Purdy, bro, you gotta throw it 30 plus times he was one in seven, so. But that's the real life. Brock Purdy's career reminds me a lot of Dez Bryant. Remember when Des came into the league 13 and 3 rookie season, best O line easily in the league. Zeke was arguably the best running back and DEZ Bryant was a bit of a headache but was a touchdown machine. And then by year two and three you needed Dak Prescott as the O line aged, Zeke aged, DEZ was gone, the coaching was okay. Then you're like we started all arguing on what Dak was worth and that's the stage I believe we're going to be at by mid to late October. Arguing About Brock Purdy. We overvalued Dak and Brock early. Then they struggled when deterioration, age, conflict. I mean, San Francisco once again been noisy in the off season. Green Bay quiet. So here's Kyle Shanahan acknowledging they have an issue at wide receiver. What do you do? This is a challenge. I mean there's a lot, there's possibilities later. None are guaranteed. But you know, and there's lots of things that tied to that. Who's available, how much are available for and the situation our team's in, salary cap wise and stuff. And what we can do. But yeah, we're looking into everything. We'll always try to do the best, but try not to just panic and do something to survive a tough situation at the expense of what would really hurt you later in this year and definitely next year, by the way. Over the next several years, Brock now makes more money. So you just can't go shopping, you know, at Walmart you're just not getting those Walmart prices right. So all this stuff matters. Jaden Daniels. My theme to start the show today, Jaden Daniels had way more support than you think because the Washington brand was so beat up. You're like, what a circus. No, it wasn't easy. Schedule backup quarterbacks, not as much pressure as a number two pick. Only beat one playoff team. We beat Burrow. Yeah, it was early. A lot of people beat Joe Burrow early. Right. So when he played Jalen and Baker and Lamar and all of a sudden you got to win shootouts and maybe a trail and the coaching staffs are better, it's a whole different ballgame. And Brock Purdy was overvalued early. He's probably a little undervalued now by the critics, myself being one of them. But this what he's dealing with at wide receiver, that's the real NFL. And for years I've said this about quarterbacks. One of the advantages Brock Purdy had at Iowa State, it got him ready and prepared him for the NFL, which is battle lines running for your life. Often have the second best coach or second best roster. That's why a lot of these Bama quarterbacks, they don't do great in the NFL. They never trail, they get great protection. The receivers are always wide open. That's not preparing you for the NFL. North Carolina State, Miami of Ohio, quarterback at those schools. California, that's Iowa State. That's preparing you for the NFL. So Nick Wright stops by in about 50 minutes. You see Tom Brady's talking about Bill Belichick. I, I am so fired up for Bill Belichick. I feel it's so much J. Mac like Dion @ Colorado. So Dion brings in a new energy and a bunch of transfers. Like it's a bad program that didn't have success recruiting. And so Carolina brings in a bunch of transfers, totally new energy. The Jordan Hudson story, it's got some youth. That's got Belichick, but Dion made his hay in the NFL as a player. Belichick made his hay in the NFL as a coach on Sundays. And. And they both open with tcu. Dion blew him out. Belichick's an underdog. So is that, is that tcu Carolina? Is that Labor Day weekend by CH it is. Oh, it's Monday. I know what I'm leading with on Tuesday show. Can't wait for it. All right, coming up next, the Cleveland Browns released a depth chart. Kind of wonky if you ask me. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the iHeartRadio Apple. Hi, this is Jay. I'm the producer of the Paulie and Tony Fusco Show. Usually in these promos, they ask you to listen to the show. I'm here to ask you, please don't listen to this show. The hosts are two absolute morons who have the dumbest takes on sports imaginable. Don't listen to this show so it can get canceled. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What the hell are you doing in our studio? Get him, Paulie. 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Nick Wright
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Colin Cowherd
American Public University is the number one provider of education to our military and veterans in this country. They offer something truly unique. Special rates and grants for the entire family, making education affordable not just for those who serve, but also for their loved ones. If you have a military or veteran family member and are looking for affordable, high quality education, Apu is the place for you. Visit Apu Apus Edu Military to learn more. That's Apu Apus Edumilitary. Imagine never buying gas again. EVs are as easy to charge as your phone and perfect for everyday life. Drive daily with confidence everywhere you go. Most Americans drive 40 miles a day. Most EVs are equipped with 200 to 400 miles of range. They've got fewer parts, fewer repairs and fewer headaches. With hundreds of new and used EV models available today, there's an EV to fit every lifestyle and every budget. I love my electric vehicle. It's easy. No more gas stations. The way forward is electric. Learn more@electric for all.org hey folks, this message brought to you by the one and only official Whiskey of the Herd with Colin Coward Green River Whiskey now here's a story that'll knock your socks off. Picture this. Founded way back in 1885, Green River Whiskey is OG Kentucky Cool, the 10th oldest distillery in the state. And get this, it was so valuable back in the day that 20 barrels of the good stuff were traded for shares in a gold mine. That's liquid gold. Literally. But like any great drama, tragedy struck in 1917 with a fire that almost wiped it off the map. Cue the hero music. It was rebuilt on the same hallowed grounds. Let me tell you, better than ever. So whether you're sipping their single barrel bourbon or a smooth straight rye, know you're raising a glass to history. Folks, here's to Green River Whiskey, where rich flavor meets richer stories. Hop on over to greenriverwhisky.com Discover a legend in a bottle today. Cheers to that. A product of Green River Distilling Company, Owensboro, Kentucky. Alcohol by volume varies by product. Green RiverWhisky.com Please drink responsibly. Nick Right top of the hour. So I just said I think Dion and Belichick, you'd think they're totally different going to college, very similar. They bring a new energy. Both made their hay in NFL football and they both opened with tcu. Belichick's an underdog. Dion beat TCU in the opener. I just went back and looked at it very closely. It was a shootout. But I, my question is there. I think I've always believed there are. I always had. Rex Ryan would have been a really good college coach. He's kind of a good looking guy with a huge personality. He would have been a great recruiter. I think Rex Ryan would have been a big. Now, now, I thought he was a little sloppy and light on the details as an NFL coach, but he did have a pretty good run. Let's be honest with the jets. He had a pretty good run and I know Rex a little bit. He's a big person. I always thought Jon Gruden would be an excellent college coach. He's got just enough BS in the recruiting trail. John could recruit Jimmy Johnson, Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh were great college coaches and pro coaches, right? But the reason is they can recruit their personalities and their, they're culture setters, they're tone setters. They're not as much, they're walk around guys more than just scheme guys. Kyle Shanahan, Annie Reed, Sean Payton, scheme guys, I don't think they'd like recruiting. I think they like sitting in a room and figuring out plays. And I don't think they'd be as successful in college. And I love Sean Payton, Andy Reid and Shanahan. Shanahan would have no interest with boosters, no interest with an athletic director. And I don't think Kyle would want to recruit much. So that's my question with Belichick, is that will his brilliance be muted? And I like Elon Musk needs as a genius, the freedom to be a genius. If you put Elon Musk in a rigid corporate setting, he would be the smartest guy at IBM and would go crazy. Jeff Bezos at Amazon, he didn't even make, he didn't make a profit for the first 20, 21 years. He needed the freedom to explore the late architect Frank Lloyd Wright. You don't want him building DMV buildings, right? Like sometimes the greater the intellect. They're mavericks, they're risk takers because they have so much confidence in their ability. And I think with Belichick, my question isn't if he's smart enough. He's a brilliant guy, but like, like how much in a 17 hour NCAA mandated work week, how much can you teach? And Tom Brady was on Joel Klatt's podcast and talked about that very thing.
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Jay Mac
What they're going to get is obviously the most prepared, the most hard working.
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Colin Cowherd
Coach that I'd ever been around.
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Jay Mac
If you go to that school you.
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Colin Cowherd
Will be prepared to play at the next level.
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Jay Mac
He's going to teach you the right fundamentals, the right techniques. He's going to have a high expectation for you and you're going to develop a lot. That's what I know. He is so smart with how he approaches defensive schemes and offensive schemes and how much can these young kids retain?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, and also just tactically, I mean there have been NFL coaches that go to college and there's always been this perception that a college guy can't go to the NFL. But Jim Harbaugh did and had great success and Jimmy Johnson didn't had success and Pete Carroll did and had success and, and it's usually because they could really recruit. They have a, I mean Pete Carroll's got a Jimmy John. I've been around Jimmy a lot. They've got an energy. Harbaugh when he, when he comes on my show for an interview, the last couple of them as a charger guy, huge energy. And, and I, and I think the guys that are more intellects, the wrong word but more like football academics like Andy Reid will not do joint practices. He won't let you even look at any of his stuff. He, he doesn't want any team at his practice. And Belichick is a brilliant, brilliant football coach. But man, I got six kids in my life at 19 years old. They make weird choices. They can frustrate you, especially as you age. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific Time.
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Nick Wright
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Colin Cowherd
American Public University is the number one provider of education to our military and veterans in this country. They offer something truly unique. Special rates and grants for the entire family, making education affordable not just for those who serve, but also for their loved ones. If you have a military or veteran family member and are looking for affordable, high quality education and APU is the place for you, visit APU APIs.edumilitary to learn more. That's APU. APUS. Edu Military. Imagine never buying gas again. EVs are as easy to charge as your phone and perfect for everyday life. Drive daily with confidence everywhere you go. Most Americans drive 40 miles a day. Most EVs are equipped with 200 to 400 miles of range. They've got fewer parts, fewer repairs, and fewer headaches. With hundreds of new and used EV models available today, there's an EV to fit every lifestyle and every budget. I love my electric vehicle. It's easy. No more gas stations. The way forward is electric. Learn more at Electric for All. Hey folks, this message brought to you by the one and only official Whiskey of the Herd with Colin Coward, Green River Whiskey. Now here's a story that'll knock your socks off. Picture this. Founded way back in 1885, Green River Whiskey is OG Kentucky Cool, the 10th oldest distillery in the state. And get this, it was so valuable back in the day that 20 barrels of the good stuff were traded for shares in a gold mine. That's liquid gold. Literally. But like any great drama, tragedy struck in 1917 with a fire that almost wiped it off the map. Cue the hero music. It was rebuilt on the same hallowed grounds. Let me tell you, better than ever. So whether you're sipping their single barrel bourbon or a smooth straight rye, know you're raising a glass to history. Folks, here's to Green River Whiskey, where rich flavor meets richer stories. Hop on over to greenriverwhisky.com, discover a legend in a bottle today. Cheers to that. A product of Green River Distilling Company, Owensboro, Kentucky. Alcohol by volume varies by product. Greenriverwhiskey.com, please drink responsibly. Here we go. It's hour two. It is a Tuesday. It's great to be here today. I've said this before. I've been very, very lucky. I've had really good management around me for my entire life. For about a year and a half, two years in Tampa, I did not. It was a circus. And that was the worst two years of my career. So I've always, and I probably took it for granted in Vegas or Portland. But but, but I, you know, at the espn, I had good radio bosses at Fox has been great. I heart. So I've been very, very fortunate. But when you get bad management, which I had for about two years in Tampa, where, and I've told the stories a couple times, there's a couple of them that are just absurd, you really notice and really appreciate good bosses. And so I had very good, I had very good teachers in high school. I had a couple great college professors. I've, I've been lucky. I've had a lot of good men, mentors, surrogate, like almost dads in my life, my coaches. So that, that's a big part of it. And it's funny. So Netflix has this new show called America's Team. And EMT Smith is saying, yeah, we've had a real drought in Dallas and he kind of lets Jerry Jones off the hook. Here's the bite.
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Jay Mac
Well, Jerry never caught a pass, okay?
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Colin Cowherd
He never ran a ball and he.
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Jay Mac
Damn sure didn't throw one.
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Colin Cowherd
Right. So at some point, players got to.
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Jay Mac
Take on ownership of what they've been trained and what they've been taught to do.
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Colin Cowherd
We had to do it. I said, we went back to back suppose.
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Jay Mac
And then we lost our leader and.
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Colin Cowherd
We was in disarray for a year. Okay? So I totally disagree. If I said to you, here's seven or eight teams that are just losing franchises. The jets, the Raiders, Cleveland, Carolina, Chicago and Washington with Dan Snyder, what do they all have in common? Do they all always have bad coaches? No, no, it's. It's shaky ownership. I mean, the Bengals, it's almost impossible in the NFL to have a top five quarterback and not make the playoffs. The Bengals did that last year. It wasn't on Zach Taylor. It's why I always support Zach Taylor. He's not Andy Reid, he's not Jim Harbaugh. I'm going to support him. They have the smallest scouting department. They may still in the NFL. So to me, it's, I mean, think about this. The Angels had Mike Trout and Shohei Ohtani and could not make the playoffs. Hmm. That's because the baseball franchise up i5 called the Dodgers is much, much better run. It's not all about money, research and development, scouting. It's just a better organization. So when Jerry Jones empowered two coaches, Bill Parcells early, Jimmie Johnson early, they won Super Bowls. I mean, think about this. In a passing league, the Bengals had a quarterback that led the league in passing, a receiver that led the league in receiving, an Ed Rusher that led the league in sacks and they missed the playoffs. It's impossible when 14 of 32 teams make the playoffs. So, you know, again, you could say Zach, Zach Taylor. Okay, go ahead. He got to a Super Bowl. He did something right. All right. With that, Nick Wright. First things first. Weekdays at 3 Eastern on FS1. So I'm in a weird space with Shador Sanders. So, you know, so it'd be very easy to be a troll and marginalize me. But I liked him coming out of college. Then I thought he was way too immature with legendary in the speeding tickets. Unserious really bothered me. And then I watched him Friday and I'm like, stop saying he's not athletic enough. He is more athletic than all but about 10 guys. No, he is fine. And so now I'm stuck. I did not like I'm really. I like the traits. But I said yesterday, if your traits aren't Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, then you better be good at the other stuff. The other 30, 35%. Years ago you said something very smart. You said the NBA, you don't have to be a great defensive player because offense is 70% of the league. You shouldn't be hardened and be atrocious. Same thing here. Traits are 70% of the league, but you have to do some film study. Like, it can't be like. So I am back and forth on Shador, but I loved how he played Friday and then he drove me crazy because he goes after a local radio guy and I'm like, see?
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Jay Mac
So I didn't. So here's the deal. I actually think you and I were in a similar spot on Shador and the Browns have given us an out. And then I'll get to the radio guy.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay?
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Jay Mac
So I think you and I both before the draft said there's a very real chance he's like, people were talking about Shador versus Cam Ward at one, and then it moved to will the Giants take him in the top five? And then it moved to should Pittsburgh trade up to 10 or 11 if he's there. And I think you and I were two of the few people that said he might be there for Pittsburgh if they don't move at all, if they just stay where they are in the 20s in round one that we thought as a prospect he was a late round one, round two player. And so we weren't as high on him as some. But I don't think any of us thought he was going to fall the way he did. So there's that part of it. Then I Don't think you or I loved him as a starting quarterback his rookie year in the NFL, but when he ends up on a team with the oldest quarterback in the league in Joe Flacco, with Kenny Pickett, who is not an NFL quarterback and in fact, when you have Mike Sando on in an hour, ask him about Kenny Pickett maybe being the first player in the history of his tears and to be in his own tier, tier 5 this year for Sando was just Kenny Pickett. It's the saddest thing I've ever seen. He has no friends, he has no roommates, he has nothing. He's out there all by himself. And then Dylan Gabriel, who, you know, looks eye to eye with Kyler Murray, literally. Then all of a sudden it's like, well, Shedeur might be a good option in this specific quarterback room because Flacco is not playing all 17, Pickett's not a starter. And you watch as much college football as anybody. Nobody watched Oregon last year and was like that kid, that's a franchise NFL quarterback. So you then add to it that I think Shedor played quite well under somewhat adverse circumstances in Week 1 of the preseason and you have the recipe for a fifth round pick starting the season as the backup quarterback for the quarterback most likely to be benched of anyone in the league. So that part of it, I don't think that's in, in conflict with your previous opinions. There's 28 teams in the league where Shador would not be in a quarterback battle. He's on one of the three or four where he is and where he might end up moving up enough to where he's the eventual starter. There's that now, the Tony Grossi thing. Colin, listen, I know it has been years since you had to go in locker rooms and it's been some time since I went in locker rooms. But we know that is not uncommon. The athlete going up to the loud mouthed radio guy and being like, hey, what I do to you? I remember 12 years ago, I don't know, I guess 15 years ago, being in the Chiefs locker room and Matt Castle saying to anyone who would listen in my vicinity, hey, does anybody like this guy? He sure seems to talk a lot of S to everyone, doesn't he? Like that's pretty common. And so, and I let me add one other thing about the end of that and this is just a reality of life. Never underestimate the power of charisma or a great smile like that. Tony Grossi Shador interaction reads not great. But when you watch it and Shador hits you with the 5000 watts smile and the laugh at the end, it seems like it's okay. So I had no problem with that. The walk in with the boombox and the staff, I maybe could have done without, but I also did just turn 40, so I'm becoming a curmudgeonly old man like you. But I thought he played well.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, he was fun to watch. So I said, almost everybody played this weekend. Mahomes, Burrow, Tua. Everybody but Tom Brady played this weekend and Caleb Williams didn't. And my take was standalone. Bears, Dolphins. Ben Johnson's like, you know, it's like when tech companies come out with a new product and they say, you know what, we're going to delay it. It's going to be revolutionary. But, you know, we just want to tighten it up. It means the engineering staff's a little behind. My take is Caleb is creating a little bit of drama where it's like, listen, do we want another nine days or seven days getting crushed? He's not quite there. We're asking him to do stuff under center and it was strategic in not playing him. Not that he got a bunch of good snaps against the Dolphins. What's your take on that?
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Jay Mac
I think you have gone swung the pendulum a little too far on the Caleb stuff, if I'm being honest. I think you have are a little too pessimistic at this point after. Admittedly, you and I were both probably a little too optimistic last year.
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Colin Cowherd
All right.
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Jay Mac
But I listen, I would, if I were running an NFL team, I would simply say, hey, what does Andy Reid do in preseason and training camp? Yeah, I'll do that. Because the Chiefs start every year off sharp and ready and he plays his guys and Mahomes is out there first preseason game and they have tough practices. But the second best in my opinion, coach in football Sean McVay does the opposite. So there clearly isn't just one way to go about it. I would be more critical of this if it weren't for the fact it also should be noted the entirety of the Bears starting offensive line sat, their starting running back, tight end and their top three wide receivers sat. So of course Caleb is going to sit now. He does need to play probably more snaps now in week two than it otherwise would have. And is this Ben Johnson protecting Caleb? Is this Ben Johnson protecting himself? Is this Ben Johnson simply saying, yeah, we're not exactly where I want us to be yet, but I think there's no harm in waiting an extra week I'll tell you this much like, everybody loves Drake May. Even though you can't find the stat, the number, the game where Drake May was better than Caleb last year. Drake May got five through five passes in week one. One of them was backwards over his head to the other team. Nobody cares. And so like, is it good or bad that Caleb didn't have that moment? I'm not sure, but I think I am. I do think it will be a little rocky early as this transition takes place, but I think by the by Thanksgiving, Colin, Caleb, I believe is going to look like the player that you and I both believed he would be.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, I hope so. So the quarterback Mike Sandoz on in an hour and it's. I love it. It's an annual survey. I said yesterday I, I woke up and I saw it. It was like, oh, it's like Christmas present in August. It's great. I love it. Did you have anything, anything in the tears because you do your own tears. Anything that jumped out to you as a revelation or. I thought Bonix was a little low. I thought Aaron was a little high at this point. I think if you asked GMs, who would you take today, Aaron or Bo Nix? They would take Bo Nix for a lot of reasons. One, he's just in his athletic prime, but it was, it didn't bother me. But was there anything here that, that jumped out to you?
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Jay Mac
Well, first of all, just because you, you opened the door there. I heard you tease in the previous segment that there's going to be an adjustment tomorrow. Is it?
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Colin Cowherd
Yes.
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Jay Mac
To your preseason predictions.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes.
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Jay Mac
And then you revealed that are Charger injury, Rashawn Slater. And so when I was like. And at first I was like, okay, good. Colin, who had every single defending division champion repeating except for the Chiefs, is now going to use the Rashawn Slater injury as a reason to elevate the Chiefs. Why do I have a terrible sinking feeling that somehow the Rashawn Slater injury is going to lead to Bo Nix and your beloved Sean Baten going from third to first in the AFC West?
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Colin Cowherd
It is.
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Jay Mac
Somehow Rashawn Slater gets hurt and the Broncos go to first place. I could. I saw that train storming down the tracks. I was like, that's what's happening here. All right. So sorry, spoiler alert. I haven't seen the list, but I know that's what's happening. I just know it all right now to the list. I thought the list was really good. Now I am higher on Stafford than most, but not the NFL GMs and front office people because I think he's the fifth best quarterback in football. Obviously the three or four people that had Josh Allen or Lamar as tier two are just out of their mind like that. That to me is not a viable opinion unless people are arguing Mahomes is in a tier by himself, which they should, but they're not. Then Allen and Lamar have to be there with Burrow in Tier one. Yeah, I know there was a lot of consternation about Jalen hurts. His ranking. I think, listen, I would have Jalen hurts ahead of Justin Herbert. I would rather have Jalen hurts than Jared Goff. But aside from that, like I don't have a problem with Jalen hurts being high tier 2. I also think it should be noted people are awful quiet these days. You know, we don't hear from so much anymore these days. Colin, the Brock Purdy truthers, they were chirping at you and me for quite a while and now he's hanging on for dear life in tier two. About to drop to tier three when this thing comes out next year and you don't hear from him as much anymore. I, I thought this quarterback tears was. I thought they were really well done as they typically are. I think Josh Allen's the second best quarterback in football. But you know, 47 people voted him tier one, 50 voted Joe Burrow. It's such a small margin. I don't really have a problem with it. I think this is a pretty fair reading of the league. I agreed with you. I think Aaron was a touch high. I also thought Kyler, I thought the top of tier three are two quarterbacks that I just don't really believe in and Kyler and Aaron, so I wouldn't have them quite as high. I think Gino's a little disrespected. And listen, I understand nobody's ready For Mac Jones 2.0 Bo Nix to take the league by storm. I'm very excited to see it.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. You know, by the way, the Brock Purdy thing, and this is going to really bother J. Mac, but I said when Dak as a fourth rounder came in and the Cowboys had Zeke, who was the best back in the league, the best offensive line, an offensive coach, the division was kind of wonky and they could spend money because they're paying Dak. Yeah, they were three. And then the more they relied on him. Well, if you go to Brock Purdy's first year as a full time starter, he had four Pro Bowlers on offense. Now their receiving core in this camp is a mess. And, and in his last 15 games as the team got old, brittle is losing defensive players, meaning they're in more shootouts. Do you know what Brock Purdy is in his last 15 games? He's 6 and 9 and they just paid him. So my take is what Brock Purdy is going through not only the last 15 games, but in this camp where all his receivers are gone or hurt is that's the real NFL. Not of Dax rookie year or Brock's first two years of course.
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Jay Mac
And by the way, listen, some of these, the Brock Purdy folks are not going to be reasoned with. And I've said this before, but I will say it again. This is a, essentially a six year long. How do you view football war that started with Jimmy Garoppolo? Jimmy Garoppolo won, but objectively was not that good. And some people were like, nope, he's a winner. He's got it. And there were those of us who were like, I actually think with that coaching and that talent and that scheme, you could throw almost anyone in there and they would be successful. And those folks were like, no, you can't. And by the way, how would you ever prove that? And then they put in literally the last player picked in the draft and added Christian McCaffrey. And instead of those folks being like, oh yeah, the talent, the scheme and the coaching, they're like, nope, that guy's a superstar. And then those of us were like, no, he has this amazing team around him. And they said, well, how do you know he wouldn't do it if he didn't have that team around him? And then last year he didn't have it around him. They won six games and they're like, no, Brock Purdy's still great. Like, he's fine. He's overachieved for his draft status. I'm happy for him and his family. He got paid. But anybody that watches the NFL and thinks he is a force multiplier or he is a substantially, you know, that he is unfairly ranked and the 14, 15, 16 range, there's just. They're not going to. They are not open to the evidence that keeps pouring in year after year or game after game.
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Colin Cowherd
I will give you credit though, the fact that you were able to sniff out.
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Jay Mac
I know it, of course I was shocked when I saw you didn't have the Broncos in the playoffs. I'm like, that's. Listen, I know, I know Uncle Colin really well. And one of the things I know is around this time of year, he loves he loves. He loves him some. Sean Payton loves him some. Ah. You know, how impressive is it really to go to seven straight conference title games and win three and go to three straight Super Bowls? Like, we see that all the time. And now, do I wish you had this type of energy for JP Lawsman and the bills circa 2009? Sure, I do. But listen, everybody, everybody can't be the 2024 Denver Broncos who went.07 against AFC playoff teams. But now they're a real threat because have you seen Cortland Sutton? I mean, it's the silliest thing I've ever heard, but I'm glad you're now gonna join the chorus on it. And I still. Please explain tomorrow how Rashawn Slater's injury moves the Broncos up two spots and the Chiefs stay where they're at. I don't see it, but I'm sure you will explain it.
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Colin Cowherd
I will. First things first, my buddy Nick Wright, as always, good seeing you. See you, Colin. Yeah, Two major moves tomorrow. I do. You know, it's. It's a couple years ago, nobody was playing. I can remember the year that Kenny Pickett came out. That was the only real August topic because Sean McVeigh decided when he broke into this league, I'm not playing starters. In the preseason, everybody criticized him. He went 8 no. To start the season. And so a lot of people scaled back. And the NFL realizes joint practice is probably better for health than games. Anywho, this year it's everything cyclical in sports. Everybody's shooting nothing but threes. Everybody wants this. And then Oklahoma City, you know, has a great two shooter and. And Chet Holmgren's doing twos and SGA is doing twos. And all of a sudden you look up and you're like, oh, they're the NBA champs by playing defense. So in the NFL now, like, everybody's playing in league, the premier preseason. So everything in sports, I mean, the political media overreacts to everything. In, in, in sports, we overreact to some stuff. But the truth is, in sports, everything comes around. Everything. Like three point shot, you got to take 73 point shots. And then you start watching the Celtics and you're like, the downside to shooting all those three point shots is you have bad nights shooting three point shots. You really don't. With mid range, those Michael Jordan's teams, mid range, you kind of got the same team every night. And you say, well, what about the Warriors? Well, they had kd, Clay and Steph, the three best three point shooters in the league. Arguably on the same team that was different. But I just look at the preseason this year and it's been fun. I'm watching starting quarterbacks, I'm watching starting players, and I don't want my quarterbacks to get hurt. I don't believe in preseason I would eliminate it. I don't think you need it. College football doesn't have it, but it's been a good watch. Hi, it's Colin. I've been around long enough to know quality when I see it. Or in this case, when I taste it. Tito's Handmade Vodka. Good stuff. No flash, no gimmick. Smooth, clean tasting, made the right way. Tito's made in Austin, Texas. Real attention to detail. I like to keep it simple. Tito's Soda one lime. Lot of ice. Refreshing, easy summer, winter, spring. Totally versatile. Always works. Listen, baseball season's here. The perfect time to kick back with some Tito's. It's what I pour. You should too. Distilled and bottled by 5th Generation Inc. Austin, Texas 40% alcohol by volume Savor responsibly this message brought to you by the official Whiskey of the Herd with Colin Coward Green River Whiskey Green River Whiskey is the 10th oldest distillery in Kentucky and was once the most expensive Whiskey purchased when 20 barrels were traded for shares in a gold mine. From single barrel bourbons to straight rye, Green River's the perfect combo of rich flavor and richer history. Visit greenriverwhiskey.com to discover a legend in a bottle. A product of Green River Distilling Company Owensboro, Kentucky. Alcohol by volume varies by product. Greenriverwhiskey.com, please drink responsibly. American Public University is the number one provider of education to our military and veterans in this country. They offer something truly unique special rates and grants for the entire family, making education affordable not just for those who serve, but also for their loved ones. If you have a military or veteran family member and are looking for affordable, high quality education, Apu is the place for you. Visit Apu Apus Edumilitary to learn more. That's Apu Apus Edu Military Imagine never buying gas again. EVs are as easy to charge as your phone and perfect for everyday life. Drive daily with confidence everywhere you go. Most Americans drive 40 miles a day. Most EVs are equipped with 200 to 400 miles of range. They've got fewer parts, fewer repairs and fewer headaches. With hundreds of new and used EV models available today, there's an EV to fit every lifestyle and every budget. I love my electric vehicle it's easy. No more gas stations. The way forward is electric. Learn more@electric for all.org this is an iHeart podcast.