Best of The Herd

Summary

The Herd with Colin Cowherd — Best of The Herd

Date: March 26, 2026
Host: Colin Cowherd
Guests: Dan Hurley (UConn coach), Dave Roberts (Dodgers manager)

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Episode Overview

This packed episode of "The Herd" focuses on the latest developments in baseball’s opening days, the NFL draft and quarterback strategies, the evolution of college basketball, and in-depth interviews with headline-making sports figures. Colin delivers his hallmark sharp takes on Yankees' new approach, deciphers NFL draft smoke screens, breaks down college basketball’s increasing talent pool, and previews marquee NCAA matchups with UConn’s Dan Hurley. Dodgers manager Dave Roberts joins to discuss the club’s pursuit of continued excellence.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Yankees Opening Day: Signs of a New Offensive Identity

[03:54 – 06:47]

• Colin’s Take: Yankees have historically been one of the most home-run reliant teams (50% of runs from HRs), heavily dependent on Aaron Judge.
  • “Yankees scored 50% of the runs on home runs, tops in baseball. They're unbalanced. Nobody relies on the home run and they're very Aaron Judge reliant.” — Colin Cowherd [04:29]
• Game Recap: In their season opener, despite Aaron Judge striking out four times and being the only Yankee not to reach base, the team produced 9 singles, with 8 different players getting hits, especially from the bottom of the order.
  • “Five through nine hitters hit .412. So it was what they don’t normally do.” — Colin Cowherd [05:59]
• Manager’s View: Aaron Boone praised the team’s approach against a tough pitcher:
  • “Logan Webb's one of the best and to put up a five spot there in the second with just a lot of really good at bats… we were able to do that against a really good one.” — Aaron Boone [06:27]

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2. Decoding NFL Draft Smoke Screens: Ty Simpson’s Pro Day

[06:47 – 13:42]

• Draft Landscape: Colin analyzes how teams conceal their intentions for quarterback prospects like Ty Simpson (Alabama). Only Bears GM Ryan Poles visibly attended Simpson’s pro day, which Colin interprets as a “smoke screen.”
  • “If you really like him, you don’t want to go to the pro day...that tells you it’s a smoke screen.” — Colin Cowherd [08:25, 09:19]
• Strategic Positioning: Predicts Simpson being picked mid-to-late first round (15–21), with Jets and Steelers as possible landing spots.
• Prospect Self-Pitch:
  • “I'm tough, I'm resilient, I love football and I want to make other people better...I lead it better than where I left it.” — Ty Simpson [09:45]
• Expert Analysis (Todd McShay):
  • “It's transferable. It's NFL stuff...everything's clockwork, the decision making, it's precise. I know he has the mind. I know he's got a dad who was a coach...” — Todd McShay [11:17]
• FR QB Risk: JMAC points out drafting QBs can end careers for GMs if they whiff, hence so much subterfuge and caution:
  • “If you whiff on the quarterback...good chance in a couple of years you’re gone.” — JMAC [12:23]
• Tank for 2027 QBs?: JMAC speculates teams may be angling to secure picks for the more talented QB class next year (“race to the bottom”). Colin pushes back, arguing tanking is harder in football due to roster realities.
  • "I don't think because of the physicality you can tank in football." — Colin Cowherd [14:10]

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3. Experimentation and Innovation in Sports Rules

[19:45 – 22:36]

• Baseball’s ABS (Automated Balls and Strikes) System: Colin lauds MLB for effectively experimenting with rule changes in the minor leagues before implementing at the top level.
  • “This game was slow pondering four years ago. It's cool, it's fun, it's watchable, it's quick.” — Colin Cowherd [20:16]
• NBA Comparison: Wishes the NBA would use college basketball as a testing ground for rule changes, noting current gameplay is too three-point centric and late-game situations drag too long.
• Fan Impact: Modern pace tweaks cater to fans’ limited attention spans.

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4. College Basketball & the Sweet 16 Preview: Interview with UConn Coach Dan Hurley

[26:16 – 37:59]

Talent Level & Team Identity

• Seeding Logic: UConn’s dominant season (31 wins) rendered them a controversial #2 seed, but Hurley asserts they stack up as a championship-level program.
  • “We feel like we're as dangerous as any team in the country...We had as good a non conference performance as anyone and then we went 19 and 3 in the Big East.” — Dan Hurley [27:49]
• Michigan State Matchup: Highlights physicality, calls it a “real manly contest,” and singles out Cohen Carr’s athleticism as a key threat.
  • "If you're not dialed in...he's gonna put you on a highlight reel." — Dan Hurley [29:38]
• Rise in NCAA Talent: Credits international recruitment and NIL changes for an influx of high-quality players who now stay in college longer.
  • “We're getting more of those high level international players...players are now staying longer.” — Dan Hurley [31:07]

Coaching Philosophies & Career Choices

• Why Stay in College: Hurley reflects on turning down NBA offers and values the organizational control available to college coaches.
  • “You really do control your own destiny as a college coach. And that's something I would never want to give up.” — Dan Hurley [32:51]
• Officiating & Tourney Mindset: Acknowledges he gets fewer technicals in March, as stakes and scrutiny increase, making him more relaxed during the postseason.
  • “You’re more relaxed this time of year...you don’t worry about picking the pieces up. If you go down, it’s over." — Dan Hurley [34:47, 35:30]
• Mutual Coaching Respect: Expresses deep respect for Tom Izzo, calling him a friend and mentor.

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5. Dodgers’ Season Outlook: Interview with Manager Dave Roberts

[38:11 – 46:27]

• Closer Stability: Addition of Edwin Diaz changes bullpen dynamics and creates confidence in late-game management.
  • “Now you get Edwin Diaz...you can work from the back end and have your guy at the back end and then fill in the gaps.” — Dave Roberts [39:07]
• Kyle Tucker’s Fit: Emphasizes Tucker’s low-key “hard hat” mentality, aligning well with star-studded but professional clubhouse culture.
  • “He just wants to play baseball. Just had a baby...he left money on the table to play for the Dodgers.” — Dave Roberts [40:30]
• Power vs. Small Ball: Colin challenges whether the Dodgers can manufacture runs amidst a power-heavy lineup. Roberts says this group is better suited than past teams for situational hitting.
  • “That was more of an indictment probably on teams we had a few years ago...now our guys know how to get on base.” — Dave Roberts [42:09]
• Ohtani’s Integration: Shohei Ohtani will start as a pitcher and DH; management will be flexible based on his health and communication.
  • “We’re not going to be holding...like he has to DH every time he pitches. We'll kind of manage that, see how he feels.” — Dave Roberts [43:42]
• Leadership Message: Roberts stresses focus (“get the blinders on”) and constant pursuit of the trophy, referencing the “greyhound” analogy.
  • “The lure is right there, that trophy, and we're chasing that trophy and it doesn't matter who's beside us, who's behind us, who's chasing us. Keep the focus on ourselves.” — Dave Roberts [44:43]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Colin on Yankees:
  “Balance is going to win you trophies, not winning home run titles.” [06:01]
• Ty Simpson’s Self-Assessment:
  “I'm tough, I'm resilient, I love football and I want to make other people better...If you draft me...I'm looking after the whole team.” [09:45]
• Dan Hurley on College Basketball Evolution:
  “You're going to develop better at college than you will in the G League...you're going to live better, travel better, stay in nicer hotels.” [31:07]
• Hurley on Coaching Control:
  “You really do control your own destiny as a college coach. That’s something I would never want to give up.” [32:51]
• Dave Roberts on New Closer Edwin Diaz:
  “Now you can work from the back end and have your guy at the back end and then sort of fill in the gaps there. So it's huge, man.” [39:07]
• Roberts on Leadership:
  “Even when you watch us...how we play the game, run the bases, play defense, it matters how we practice...get the blinders on, look forward...” [44:43]

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Important Timestamps for Segments

• Yankees Opening Day Analysis: 03:54 – 06:47
• Ty Simpson/NFL Draft Discussion: 06:47 – 15:22
• Baseball Rule Innovation Segment: 19:45 – 22:36
• Dan Hurley, UConn Interview: 26:16 – 37:59
• Dave Roberts, Dodgers Interview: 38:11 – 46:27

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Flow & Tone

Colin’s tone remains vibrant, candid, and laced with quick wit, blending detailed game analysis and business-of-sports insights with direct, personable interviews. The conversations with Hurley and Roberts are conversational, respectful, and introspective, offering listeners both tactical X’s and O’s and broader context on leadership and sports culture.

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For listeners and non-listeners alike, this episode is a lively and comprehensive journey through the week’s biggest sports stories, illustrated with inside access and top-tier interviews.

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Here we go. It is a Thursday. We're packed. Dan Hurley, UConn coach, Dodger manager Dave Roberts, Carlos Boozer, whose son's gonna be a top three or four pick in the NBA draft. Sweet 16 starts tomorrow. It's great to be here on a Thursday. Live in Chicago. It's the Herd. So Yankees have been unbalanced for years and they didn't really do any in the offseason. They added like a number four start and a lot of good teams were upgrading, elevating, acquiring, and the Yankees didn't. And if I would have told you last night, opening up on the road, Aaron Judge struck out four times. Only Yankee not to reach base. Logan Webb is pitching for the Giants. Led the National League in strikehouse. You just said oh. Yet they rolled on the road. Nine singles, eight different Yankees got hits. All except Aaron Judge. Balance. They attacked Logan Webb and no team is more home run dependent. Yankees scored 50% of the runs on home runs tops in baseball. They're unbalanced. Nobody relies on the home run and they're very Aaron Judge reliant. I mean, the Phillies have Bryce Harper and other stars. Dodgers have Ohtani and other stars. They add Kyle Tucker. The Padres have Machado and other stars. The Yankees are Aaron Judge, Reliant, and he didn't do anything last night. And they're an unbalanced offense and they didn't hit any home runs last night. So this is. I know it's one of 62. Judge had a really bad opener, but I mean, last night it was singles, it was good at bats, it was the bottom of the lineup. Five through nine hitters hit 4:12. So it was what they don't normally do. They got a bad night from Aaron Judge against a great pitcher. Logan Webb's an all star. They roughed him up in the second inning. Max Freed was home free. And this is, this is. I know it's one of 62, but this is not what the Yankees do. They don't always get good at bats, right? They don't. They don't move guys along. They're not great always. Situationally they got good starting pitching, but last night they got great pitching. Lot of singles, different guys, bottom of the order. That was a nice win. Balance is going to win you trophies, not winning home run titles. Here was Aaron Boone after.

[Aaron Boone]

Obviously Logan Webb's one of the best and to put up a five spot there in the second with just a lot of really good at bats. You know, I thought we, I thought we pressured him. Even in the first he went 1, 2, 3. But you know, every at B tough and it was a battle. And I thought all night, you know, we were able to do that against a really good one.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay, so yesterday at the end of the show, Ty Simpson, Bama quarterback, had a pro day. And JMAC said one GM is there Ryan Poles of the Bears. And I suggested it's a smoke screen because if you really like him, you don't want to go to the pro day. Well, I had two execs text me after our show yesterday and said we got it right. Is that you can get film from this without being there. Hey, the Rams have crushed the draft. They don't even go to the combine. So. Also, Ohio State had a pro day. A lot of people want to see the Buckeyes. They've got multiple first and second rounders. Also, the jets are going to do a private workout with Ty Simpson. But this is what I think is happening and why nobody showed up. I think it was absolutely intentional. I do think he's sort of the Jackson Dart, late first, early second sphere. But every year there's seven teams that need a quarterback. And remember next year's draft, it's Big game hunting. But you're going to have to give up multiple ones, multiple twos and threes to get an arch Manning to potentially get a star quarterback. So if you can get somebody of value who you see as a franchise quarterback, that's interesting. So let's look at the picks because I think he's going to go somewhere between 15 and 21. Even though I, I, you know, I didn't think Jackson Dart was a first rounder. He had a very good rookie season when he was out of the blue tent. So if you look at who is picking 16 to 21, 16 is the Jet second pick. They could take him. Panthers at 19, would they consider it? Steelers at 21, would they consider it? So what does this mean? It means, it means if you want to get this kid, you got to get to 15 and beat the Jets. And who is at 15? The Buccaneers who have Baker Mayfield. I presume they're not taking a quarterback. But Jason Light is a longtime general manager. You don't want to give the 15th GM Jason Light at 15. You don't want to give him leverage and know you're desperate. So this is a decoy move. This to me ensures I'll go the opposite. I think this ensures that Ty Simpson is going to in the middle to late first round. And I do, I do think he's a franchise quarterback. I do. But when nobody showed up except the one team you know is not drafting a quarterback, there's about five, six, seven teams aren't drafting a quarterback. Ryan Pole shows up, that tells you it's a smoke screen. Here was Ty Simpson after his pro day.

[Ty Simpson]

I'm tough, I'm resilient, I love football and I want to make other people better. You know, when I come in our program, I'm program trained with you. You know, I don't just make, you know, myself better and make other people better. So if you draft me and you want me to be your franchise quarterback, I'm not just coming in to look after myself. I'm looking after the whole team and making sure that I lead it better than where I left it.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right, he, he's his traits, he's not very big, he's not hyper athletic, but I do think he's got a good arm, he's athletic enough. I think he's a franchise quarterback. What's interesting about the Steelers is they draft the quarterback in the late first round. Rolled the dice on Kenny Pickett and it didn't work like at all. Ty Simpson's better than Kenny Pickett. I don't think he's as talented as Malik Willis who went in the Picket draft. I think Malik Willis is really, really special and I think Dolphin fans and the rest of us will see that very quickly. But Todd McShay was on yesterday. The great thing about Simpson is that Kalin DeBoer does a lot of NFL things with his offense. So it's not a really difficult evaluation. And as much as everybody says, well, quarterbacks are random, you never know where they come from. Most good ones come in the first round. Go look at history, most don't go look at Brady or Montana. Overwhelmingly, GM's evaluations gotten better and better and better. Ty Simpson that pro day, nobody shows up. I think he's a first round guy. Here is McShay on the offense at Alabama. That actually does him a favor.

[Todd McShay]

It's transferable. It's NFL stuff. You know Ryan Grubbs there and they're doing the pre snap motion, deciphering what the coverage is. He's on schedule. He's like everything's clockwork, the decision making, it's precise. I know he has the mind. I know he's got a dad who was a. Who's been a coach, a head coach in college football for 20 years. He grew up with a football in his hand. He's been around ball and you see it in his play.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. So JMAC is the reason I put that in the top of the show today, because we talked about it yesterday. It seems strange and there were headlines today. Whoa. What is going on? Total smoke screen. You can get video of it. GMs don't want you to know they're interested. So they have maybe a little leverage if they call Jason Light at 15 of the Bucks and want to move up. I think it's all gamesmanship and I. And I think that's fine. I think, yeah, we see games on the field. There's a lot of games being played off the field. And I'm putting on the screen for our TV audience 16 through 21. I think both the jets and the Steelers are live to get him.

[JMAC (NFL Analyst)]

That that's. It's not a fair take. I like it. I largely agree that yeah, you can see the film on and throwing. It's more about like if you're drafting a quarterback, Colin, that's how you get fired as a gm. If you whiff on the quarterback that you don't get fired if you miss on a linebacker or an edge rusher, at least not as likelihood of getting canned. You miss on A quarterback, especially in the first round early, there's a good chance in a couple of years you're gone.

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I think Joe Douglas was pretty good for the jets, but he missed on Zach Wilson. I mean, he drafted a lot of good players and he missed on him. Yeah, as.

[JMAC (NFL Analyst)]

As a result, you want as much information. I want to be around Ty Simpson, see what he's like. I personally believe, and I know this isn't going to be popular in NFL circles. We've seen other sports go so heavy. Analytics. NFL is kind of the last one to the game. Baseball and basketball are all analytics. You've bashed them and you're kind of right. You know, that's. It's home runs, it's threes, it's layups. I believe we're seeing a tanking going on in the NFL this season, Colin, where we know next year's quarterback class is loaded. And we do say this every year. Oh, it's always going to be, no, no, no, this is different, Colin. If Arch Manning were in this draft, he would go ahead of Mendoza. Talk to any draft analyst. Even though Arch wasn't great, his traits, the lineage, he would go ahead of Mendoza. I think teams, Jets, Dolphins, Cardinals, I don't even think they're interested in a quarterback. I think it's a race to the bottom for next year's quarterback.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, we, you know, you and I have discussed this, that the basketball and football cultures in America are divergent. They're totally different. And the football culture is better. Their, their minor league system is better than, you know, the NBA G League system. Although NBA is smartly now kind of leaning into college basketball. But I would say this, I said this two years ago, the last two years in the NFL. I have said it reminds me of the bottom of the NBA. It's really unwatchable by like Thanksgiving. It used to be there'd be two awful teams this year. Miami could be tanking. I'm not going to use tanking. Miami, Cleveland, Arizona. I think the Raiders will be interesting. So I'm not going to put them there, but there's a lot of junk at the bottom. I. Yeah, I don't think because of the physicality you can tank in football. I think you can play backups, but your rosters are what they are. And there's so many injuries that sometimes, you know, you got to play who's healthy.

[JMAC (NFL Analyst)]

Look at the Seattle model, Colin. Seattle built all the infrastructure. They rolled the dice with Geno Smith did not work then they went Sam Darnold and the infrastructure was loaded. Like you say, the best roster in the league and they win the Super Bowl. Why can't the Jets, Cardinals and Brown say, hey, we're not going to go for a quarterback. We're going to load up on defensive end, trenches, everything, and then we get our quarterback next year? I don't want to draft Ty Simpson in the first round. Why? He's not that great. I could sooner get a good player who's going to be a starter, round out my roster and then plug and play Arch Manning, Carr from Notre Dame or whoever pops next year like Cam Ward or Fernando Mendoza.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, good stuff. By the way, nobody wants to hear this, especially in Los Angeles, but I think there's three teams that can win the title and the Celtics, one of those teams. We'll talk about that next. Live in Chicago, it's the Herd.

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[Colin Cowherd]

of the advantages I think that pro leagues, if they use it, is that for instance, like in baseball, you have a minor league system use it and so you can the pitch clock. They experimented for years with a pitch clock in the minor leagues. The ABS system balls and strike system, which the pitcher, the catcher or the batter can initiate tap it on the head. That not the manager. It can be those three. And so San Francisco didn't use any of theirs last night. The first one was a Yankee challenge. That was first pitch like the fourth inning. And it's very quick. It's like the Hawkeye in tennis. It's very quick. They put it on the board, the fans can watch. And I got to give Rob Manfred credit. This game was slow pondering four years ago. It's cool, it's fun, it's watchable, it's quick. And I thought this was really good. It's really fast and the fans can watch the replay up on the board. And I I think it's another you got every team gets two challenges. If you go to extra innings, you get other challenges. And if you have a challenge and you get it right, you got to keep your challenge. I like it. San Francisco did not use theirs, but it's I I wish the NBA would do some tweaking. I mean, nobody wants to watch 83 point shots. Nobody wants to watch the last two and a half minutes of an NBA game take 30 minutes like tweak and Rob Manford got some heat. But every one of these tweaks has worked. And that AB says ABS system, balls and strike system. I thought it was very effective, very quick. The Giants did not use any of theirs and their manager talked about that.

[Rob Manfred]

I would have never predicted that we would have played the entire game and had not used two. And then on the other one, I only used the restroom one time tonight and it happened to be the time I was supposed to be doing a Netflix interview. I was a little more concerned with the score being 5 to nothing at the time than being at that spot. With all due respect. And so I was trying to make sure my belt was buckled and I came up with some. I didn't sound I sounded dumber than usual during that thing. So as I returned, that's when it had happened.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, I mean, you got to the modern attention span has limitations. Baseball figured it out. NBA has gotten very repetitious. I like the playoffs but I think all these moves are making they're just fast. They're quick. You can use the minor league system. I've always said this. The NBA should use college basketball basketball and be an ally and anything you can experiment with see if you can have a deal with college basketball. Baseball brilliantly uses their minor league system to experiment. They they they experimented in the minor leagues and it it came off without a hitch last night. It was great.

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[Colin Cowherd]

All right, welcome back. All right, it starts tonight. Let's look at the schedule tonight. The Sweet 16. There's a lot of good teams. They're all major conference teams now. So the first one up tonight is Purdue in Texas. I like Purdue. Purdue's a very interesting with Matt Painter is they don't. They don't do a lot of portal guys. They pay their own guys. They remind me a little bit of the Villanova way to do it. They recruit high school guys. I like Purdue tonight. I like Iowa to shock Nebraska a little bit. I don't know if it's shocking. Arizona may be the best team left. I like Arizona tonight I would take Calvin Sampson in Houston. I'm not sure. I watched Illinois play two or three times. Michigan kind of pushed them around, but Michigan pushed a lot of people around. So I'm not sure. All right, Tomorrow night it's UConn in Michigan State. That may be the best game of the weekend. It's Dan Hurley against Tom Izzo and Coach Hurley is now joining us live. All right, this is going to be. You know, it's funny. You know what's funny about this is that you started the year 22 and 1. Your only loss was close to Arizona. And Arizona, there's an argument it's the best team in the tournament. They're hell of a team and you get a two seed. I would argue you could be a one seed, but the sport is thicker, the sport is better. Do you feel you're more of a one seed or do you think to yourself, coach, you know, we're not quite as athletic. We don't have a Stefan Castle. How do you view your team as a great two or maybe should be a one?

[Dan Hurley]

I think it was close. I mean, it's great being on Colin and I loved your breakdown and we played a couple of those teams and I mean Illinois is excellent and you know, they have as good a chance as anyone to get to a final four. And we were able to beat those guys, you know, Florida, who, you know, I think was a lot of people's pick to, you know, to get back to the final Four, maybe go back to back. You know, we beat those guys in the non conference this year. So, you know, our high end wins, you know, the performance against St. John's at home, you know, we've showed an ability to, to be as good as anyone in the country. We haven't always come through in the championship moments, you know, but you know, the reality is we're 31 win team. We had as good a non conference performance as anyone in the country and then we went 19 and three in the Big east in 22 Big east games. So yeah, we feel like we're as dangerous as any team in the country. We know that Michigan State, that is going to be a war. It's a real manly contest. And you know, there's a reason why they're called Spartans. They're very physical. Yeah, it's going to be a battle.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. I mean, I watched the UCLA game and I really like UCLA's guard play. But when you got hot before the half, my take was the second half. It was UConn basketball. It was physical, it was tough. Michigan State's fascinating. They have one of my favorite players in the tournament, Cohen Carr. He is a relentless player. He just jumps through the television screen. And I want you to talk a little bit about him because I do think you and you in Michigan State, Carr makes it a very interesting matchup. It's going to be very physical. It's going to be hard to officiate. Does Cohen Carr jump off to you? I think it's going to be a hard game to officiate. Tell me about Cohen Carr. What do you see with him?

[Dan Hurley]

Well, we saw him and obviously it wasn't a regular season game, it didn't count. But we, you know, in the exhibition we, you know, we played these guys in October so we shared the court and unless you've seen his athleticism and physicality and the way he runs the court, how fast he gets down that left lane and when it's takeoff time, it's like, it's like, it's, watch out. So as a cutter on the baseline, the lobs, the offensive rebounds, the driving is left hand, the getting out transition, if you're not dialed into those things, he's gonna, he's gonna put you on a highlight reel and you know, those are, those are things that are controllable. And now he's made, he's made some threes the last couple games too.

[Colin Cowherd]

So you know, I love where college basketball's at. I said there was about a 20 year period where it just didn't have enough good players. And then I said a couple years ago, I'm watching your title team. And I said, okay, they can compete against Billy Donovan's Gators. You got four or five. You had NBA length, physicality, coaching. That was the precipice to me. That was the beginning of all the international guys are coming over all the nil's keeping guys. I feel like right now, Dan, the sports got so much damn talent. When I watch these games, they don't shoot quite like the NBA. But do you feel, do you notice that you've been there eight years over the last four years there's just more, there's more dudes, there's more, there's more pros. Do you feel it?

[Dan Hurley]

Yeah, you're 1,000%, you know, correct. We're getting more of those high level international players are coming over, those younger players that, that you know, aren't quite at the top division over there making the real money. It's more appealing to come play, play college basketball and then yeah, I mean you're getting players are now staying longer. Those guys that are fringe first round picks, those guys that non lottery Players that aren't guaranteed to go in the, go in the lottery or in the first 20 picks. Most of those guys, you know, are making the smartest, a smart decision of staying in college where basically they can now get the same amount of money. But you're also, you're going to get develop better at the, at college than you will in the G League. You're also going to live better. You're also going to live better, you're going to travel better, you're going to stay in nicer hotels.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah.

[Dan Hurley]

You're going to, you know, you're going to, you're going to be in the actual 40 million dollar practice facility as opposed to being in the practicing in community colleges in the G League.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. So you have 20, 23, UConn, five NBA guys. 2024, four NBA guys. Castle was on that team. Lakers made you an offer. You turn it down. The story is now that Izzo came and you talked to Tom Izzo. I One of the things I like about college basketball now, the old guys are crushing Calipari's Izzo, Patino, Rick Barnes. The NBA has gotten very young. Actually there's a bunch of young guys. But I said at the time, I said no, I think you're a college coach and that's not that you couldn't coach. I think Billy Donovan and you could both coach go either way. When you look back at it now, the decision to stay is it. Was there ever one second of regret?

[Dan Hurley]

Yeah, definitely. Well, I don't know about regret, but I mean second guessing. I don't think that there's, you know, many people that would honestly say that you don't second guess decisions that you make in your life. Huge decisions, you know, beyond just career decisions, but marital. I mean people make, you know, all types of second guessing on things that they've chosen. Especially when you, when you see how well the Lakers are playing right now or you know, you see the trade or you see the trade for Luca and, and you watch LeBron playing at the level he's playing at. You know, you definitely do at different times. But I just, I love the control you still have in college. You know, like the college coach and college football and college basketball coaches still has the control to really run the organization up to his standard and his of accountability. And I think that's so you really do control your own destiny as a college coach. And that's something I would never want to give up.

[Colin Cowherd]

So. Izzo barks I've been, I'm defending guys that use Volume as coaching this week, I've been saying guys, you know, obviously Bobby and I went over the line a few times, but you bark at officials more than you bark at players. You're probably tough one of those guys that's tough at practice. But you, you're really on the officials. When I wonder, because you have the highest winning percentage of any active coach. You've won almost 80% of your tournament games. That's insane. Do you, do you coach a little differently in the tournament? For instance, if I was an official, I would run you out of an arena in November. I'm not running you out now. Do you think you get a little more leeway in March? You can raise the volume a little to the striped shirts. You have a little more, little more leeway.

[Dan Hurley]

I actually flip it. I think I picked up a couple of technicals this year that I really didn't deserve because not a lot of attention is drawn to some of those regular season games on a Tuesday night. Some, you know, the 12th conference game of the year on a Tuesday at Providence or whatever the situation is. You know, I think there's more eyes on everybody this time of year. So if you hand out a weak technical foul, you're going to get called out on social media. You may not ref the next round of the tournament. So I think. And then I also feel for myself, I'm more relaxed this time of year. I think you work so hard to put yourself in position where you're in contention. Now you find yourself with a team that's in contention, you got, you're more relaxed this time of year. When you're coaching in December or January, you're really uptight, man. It's like if things start going bad in December, now you're looking at that staring down the barrel of man. I got two or three more months of hell with this group. If we get on a two game losing streak where you don't worry about picking the pieces up this time of year, if you go down, it's kill or be killed this time of year. If you go down, you don't have to worry about picking the pieces up with your team the next day. There are no pieces. It's over.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, that Marquette game was that you were uptight, end of that game. Yeah, I remember.

[Dan Hurley]

Yeah. Yeah, that, that was crushing. I mean, that was. I mean that was crushing. And I was literally breathing down the neck of, of my guy John, who's an excellent official, who, who ref me going back to Wagner College, I think, you know, John was when John was on my game where I really, really started to believe I could have a career as a college coach. I took my Wagner team. We won at Pitt. I think Pitt was ranked top 10 in the country. And it was second year of Wagner College and we went and won a road game at Pittsburgh and John was on that game. So anytime I see John out there, I actually feel really good. Just not, not, not that day in Milwaukee.

[Colin Cowherd]

That was your only bad loss of the season. You lost Arizona and St. John's those are good losses. You're fun. Creighton's good. All right, good luck. You're coaching against your mentor. You're just a little nervous going up against Izzo. Little tricks from Izzo. You're a little nervous.

[Dan Hurley]

I think you're. As you get closer to the game, I mean, the film doesn't lie. Like when you coach against the best coaches, you know, their teams are so hard to. Just when I first got here and Jay Wright was at Nova and you start watching his team and you just say they don't give you a lot. You know, they don't give you anything free. Like they just, they make you earn it. You have to, you know, you have to play, you have to win the street fight. And you also have to outplay him at basketball. So, you know, you just know that you're going to have to earn it. And yeah, Coach Izzo's, you know, he's a, he's a great friend and a great mentor, you know. But again, for both of us, tomorrow night, it's, it's kill or be killed.

[Colin Cowherd]

Good senior. Great senior. Good luck to you.

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[Colin Cowherd]

Welcome back. Dodgers open the season. Yankees 7 over the Giants last night got to Logan Webb early. Diamondbacks at the Dodgers. Dave Roberts, who pulled all the right levers, engaged game seven, one of the great baseball games. I'm old enough to remember the Carlton Fisk Fenway park against Cincinnati. It had, it was one of those games where the Cubs World Series win. Dave Roberts, 11th season as a Dodger manager, is now joining us. He just signed that new contract. So last year when we talked, there was constant drama with the bullpen. It was season long band aids and Bondo just trying to patchwork out. Then you go get Edwin Diaz. So it kind of changes not the culture, but the psychology. Take me to now. You go into the ballpark, you're already there for tonight's game, knowing you've got a closer. How does it change how you manage?

[Dave Roberts]

It does. You know, I think it's one of those things that, you know, with whether it's any type of leadership, CEO, business, managing a baseball team, you sort of go with what you have, assess it, and then you kind of try to make the most of it. Right. And I think that we really didn't have a defined closer last year and so we were trying to find spots for Tanner Scott, you know, different guys, and then there was injuries, there was performance, and you're just trying to figure out how to get 27 outs. But yeah, now you get Edwin Diaz, who, you know, left money on the table to come to Los Angeles, to come to the West Coast. And so now you can work from the back end and have your guy at the back end and then sort of fill in the gaps there. So it's huge, man. And, and he's a very business like guy calling. He just wants to do his job close to his family and then just wanted to be a Dodger. So huge get for us.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know, Kyle Tucker's interesting. In Chicago, he frustrated fans because he's kind of just comes to the ballpark in place. He's not, you know, he not a big personality. And you know, in Chicago, Wrigleyville, it's, it's like, you know, watching English Premier League Soccer. It's rowdy, it's wild, it's. Everybody's lubricated. I kind of think his personalities works in la. Let's talk about that on a star studded roster, how he fits your culture.

[Dave Roberts]

I think he fits seamless and I do think that you nailed it in the sense of his personality is just kind of put on the hard hat, go to work and then do it again the next day. And so he doesn't do the self promotion. He doesn't kind of do the crazy celebration antics. He just wants to play baseball. Just had a baby, so he's excited about that. And again, he left money on the table to play for the Dodgers. And then so when you're looking at Shohei, Freddie, Mookie, you know, Will Smith, Yamamoto, some other guys, we have Blake Snow. I just think that, you know, even for me, you're going to see him hitting second today and that's what he's going to be doing at the outset and looking out beyond and just get on base. We don't need you to slug, play good defense, run the bases, do you? And help us win baseball games. So I do think that this fit makes a lot of sense, you know,

[Colin Cowherd]

Dave, and it's certainly not a weakness, but it's something I thought about, knowing you were going to come on the show today is that, listen, he's another big stick. I mean, if, you know, if he hits 30 bombs for you, it wouldn't be. It wouldn't surprise me. But as you know, you can be as gifted as Freddie Freeman or Ohtani and struggle in the postseason because the pitching so good in the postseason. Do you worry about with this team that you have so much power, does it hurt your ability to manufacture runs without. You know, like I said last night, the Yankees had nine singles. I'm said they were. Aaron Judge was over five. I'm like, that's actually, in a weird way, encouraging. Do you worry that, man, we got a lot of big sticks. Can we still manufacture runs? Do you think about that?

[Dave Roberts]

You know what I do. And I think that that was more of an indictment probably on teams we had a few years ago in the sense of we just slug and we, we can't get hits. And it's interesting that, you know, the batting average is devalued, has been devalued over, let's say, the last 10 years. But when you get into the postseason, people want baserunners, they want to get hits. And how do you drive in a run when you're facing the best pitching? And I will say this is that our guys, to a man, know how to get on base. They control the strike zone and they know how to get hits. And so that's talking about getting a hit, you know, with two strikes, with guys in scoring position with two outs, facing good pitching, knowing how to hit the outfield grass. And so I don't worry about that with this ball club, and I'll tell you this right now is 1 through 9. It's a relentless lineup. And so that pitcher is going to be at 100 pitches in the fourth, fifth inning, and that's a grind. So I think that with our lineup, we should be able to get to starters and get to the pen early and see how it goes. So, yeah, I'm not too worried about, you know, just a slug because I do feel we can manufacture runs if we need to.

[Colin Cowherd]

With Ohtani, Shohei Ohtani, do you have a game plan going in or is it one of those. We're just going to communicate. We're going to see how he feels. You know, I mean, you've got essentially a player that does something nobody else does. How do you management manage it Opening day on. Do you have to be super communicative in this relationship?

[Dave Roberts]

Yeah, absolutely. So he's going to start the fifth game of the season and he's already up to 85 pitches. So I think it's for me as far as managing the game when he pitches, we're going to manage it. I'm going to manage it the way to help us win a game and obviously manage his stress in a particular game, the pitch count, all that stuff. And then as far as the hitting, you know, last year we started out with him with throwing one inning and then repeating that a couple of times to then build a two, then three. So it didn't really impact the DH role where now the jumping off point is five, six innings. So that's something we're going to monitor and see that we're not going to be holding, be beholden to like he has to DH every time he pitches. We'll kind of manage that, see how he feels. But yeah, there's constant communication going on. But man, what a player.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, what, what, what was your opening message in spring for this group of star studded Dodgers? What is the coming off back to back titles? Can you have a new message? What is the message?

[Dave Roberts]

Yeah, you know, some of the, some of it is like, you know, the old continuing to reinforce that our guys do a very good job of mining the little things. And I think it's just the whole idea of just winning a baseball game and you know, whether it's spring training, it's game seven of the World Series, it's opening day in 2026, we have a certain standard of excellence. And I think that even when you watch us, Colin, how we play the game, run the bases, play defense, it matters how we practice. I think the message as far as keep the blinders on, get the blinders on, look forward, I reference a greyhound. You know, when a greyhound's in a race, they're chasing the lure and they're not looking at who the competition is to the side. And I think that the lure is right there, that trophy and we're chasing that trophy and it doesn't matter who's beside us, who's behind us, who's chasing us. And I think it's just more of just keeping the focus on ourselves.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, you've got, you know, you've only got two trophies behind you when you just won your third as a manager. What, what, what? Where's the third?

[Dave Roberts]

Yeah, the third. See the trophies, they gotta, they gotta come back. So I'm trying to Move so you can see them. The third one is en route, so I got 20, 24, 25 is en route. Tomorrow we'll get our 25 World Series rings. So hopefully we do this again in 12, 14 months and then I'll have four behind me.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay, just, just cross your fingers on Amazon. You never know. They're usually on time. You just hope they, hope they deliver. It's great seeing you and I know you got a little golf in, but you're just a credit to the sport and you're a gentleman and I love you coming on the show and I appreciate it. Thanks, Dave.

[Dave Roberts]

I love what you do, man. Thanks for having me on.

[Colin Cowherd]

You bet. Dave Roberts already in the office. They're heavy favorites to 3 Pete. And listen, man, that Edwin Diaz in the close closing it for this team, that was a, we said it before, 26 saves last year. Think about that. You in a World Series. They went into the playoffs having blown 26 saves. So it was a, it was a Dodger fans. You know, it's so funny because when the bullpen struggles, the manager gets all the heat, you're not pulling the right levers. It's like you got to get people out. There's only so much a manager can do. Whether you want to maximize your performance or form healthier habits this year, knowing

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