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Colin Cowherd
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Jason McIntyre
Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast.
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Colin Cowherd
Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon.
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Jason McIntyre
To 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific.
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Colin Cowherd
Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. Well, here we go. It is a Friday news breaking. It is great to be here. We are live and it is the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, always appreciate you stopping by. J. Mac, you know what? After some time off, you and I got back in the saddle and there there is actually been a lot going on this week and we got a little story that broke yesterday which is good for us and it's something we've been banging on. I've been banging on this show for about they hate me in Pittsburgh and once again they're not going to like what I'm going to say here. But good Friday to you. You ready to go?
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Let's rock and roll. Okay, so T.J. watt, after our show yesterday, who's a great player? He's an absolutely great player. There's no disputing that. Deserves the money. Happy for him. Three year deal, $123 million extension. So this goes back to great player, deserves the money. I don't question the player, I, I question the direction of the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's like I don't question the power and the brilliance and the influence of Meta. I question the direction of Metaverse. Are we also miserable with our lives? We're going to be wearing headsets around all day. It's not the technology, it's the application of the technology with Meta. And that's how I feel about Pittsburgh. It's not the talented J.J. watt, it's how they prioritize defense and frankly their defense isn't that good. It's four straight years it's been out of the top 10 in total defense. If you go to the talk playoffs because that's all that matters in this sport. January, if you go look at the last five playoff games for the Pittsburgh Steelers, they've given up 28, 31, 42, 48 and 45. They give up 40 points a game. So like they're spending all this money on the wrong side of the ball and they're not dominant. Well, they've gotten better on defense and they've gotten worse on offense because the league's changed. They are completely dysfunctional on offense. Last year this is hard to do with the talent they had. It was hard to do. They were 29th in the red zone. How they could play Najee Harris, Pickens, Russell Wilson, one of the best young centers in the league. They were 29th in the red zone. They were 27th best offensive line. It's almost impossible. So when I look at Pittsburgh, my take it's don't hate the player, hate the direction, hate what they prioritized. Why can't they watch the Rams and the Niners and the Lions and the Chiefs and the Eagles and the Bills. Keep your defense cheap and young. Pay one great defensive player. I'd be all for paying. JJ wat this if the rest of your cap was on offense and you had an elite quarterback and an elite left tackle and an elite running back. The Steelers need a more balanced football diet. The league went into protein and they're all carbs. And what is their answer? I keep hearing, well, they're all in. And their answer to their offensive woes, 40 year old Aaron Rodgers, who is like sort of committed in the off season. He's their Ozempic. He's going to solve everything. He's going to solve their unbalanced diet. So again, it's not T.J. watt. Look around at the winningest teams here. Detroit's on fire. Buffalo, Kansas City, Philadelphia, San Francisco Rams, they're keep, they're giving up defensive players and, and, and, and again I, I've Talked to multiple GMs on this. Pay for a TJ Watt, pay for a Chris Jones, pay eventually for a Jared Verse, pay for the Max Crosby. But then you got to just stay young and stay cheap at safety and corner and linebacker so you can pay a left tackle. Top of the market. Quarterback, top of the market. Center, top of the market. Two weapons, top of the market. But it's not the player. Eric Mangini talked about it this week. It's not that the player's not worth the money. I'm not sure if I would take the TJ Watt calls or not. Especially if I'm Pittsburgh and I'm Pittsburgh this season. It's not like they're loaded up offensively and that's going to be able to carry the day. When you look at T.J. watt, he had, he said a little over 30 sacks between the last two seasons.
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Rob Parker
Every single game you have to account for him.
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Colin Cowherd
Every single game he's the guy that offensively you go into the room and say, look, this, this player can ruin the game for us. It's not the player. It's the prioritization of the defensive side of the ball as the league is moved to offense, all the rules. It's not anti TJ Watt, he is worth the money. I think he leads the NFL in sacks last five years. So. And how does this play to the next story? The Dallas Cowboys next up is Micah Parsons. So the Cowboys tend to wait and wait and wait. So now Dallas is trapped. And so TJ Watt, if you go look at the last two years of TJ Watts production, he is better than Micah Parsons last two years of production. But it's kind of close. If I was Micah Parsons and I was Micah Parsons agent, I'd want 85%. I mean of, of T.J. watt. T.J. watts got 30 sacks, I got 26. He got 63 quarterback kids, I got 56. Mike has got more pressures. So again, he and his agent have an argument if, if T.J. watts getting 41 million, Mike has got to get 37, 37 and a half, 38. He's also four years younger. So to me, and I've said this before, there's only one or two players per roster that you know very early. Their stars. And it's usually like quarterback, left tackle, edge rusher, maybe a great weapon. Like, like, like. And then there's players like Josh Allen of Buffalo, Patrick Certain of Denver, Jalen Carter of Philadelphia. I would call them all pro plus players. Those are generational players. You pay them early. You pay Jalen Carter early. Rams are going to have this with Jared Verse, pay him a year early. You may have won a roster on that. Well, the Cowboys are going to pay Dak top of the market. CD Lamb top of the market. They already are. Now they're going to have Micah top of the market. And so do I think Micah Parsons is worth that? No, I don't. But Dallas is trapped because Jerry has too much influence on the draft. They haven't drafted particularly well. And the Cowboys roster is so top heavy and so ordinary that whereas Philadelphia can move off stars and the Rams can move off stars, Dallas can't. Rams could move off Jalen Ramsey in his prime. Aaron Donald can retire two years later. The defensive line's better. So when you draft like Kansas City or like a Baltimore or like a Philadelphia, you can move off players. You don't get trapped. I mean, Dallas almost can't afford not to. Can't afford Michael Parsons. I mean, that's where they're at. So it's. And this. And this is every business, including the one I work for, is that, you know, the better job you do at paying the right people the right money, you have more flexibility. And so like the Eagles, the Chiefs, the Rams, the Ravens have incredible flexibility. They move off great players regularly. The Chiefs move off Tyreek Hill. Snead. The corner Rams move off Jalen Ramsey. They can move off probably a year later than they wanted to. Cooper Kopp, Ernest Jones, the inside linebacker, was a great player. They can move off guys because they draft well. Dallas doesn't draft exceptionally well, and they get trapped. So the deeper the roster, the more flexibility the company has. And let me just throw this out there. Go look at the last five general managers to win Super Bowls. Do you think it's a coincidence Howie Roseman considered the best? Brett Veach argument, second best, less need Rams. Jason Light, who I've talked about for years, Bucks. You're looking right there at four of the top, probably six general managers in the sport. John Snyder or the Seahawks is way up there. So the better gm, the better the scouting department. The better you draft, the more flexibility you have to move off players. I do think there's about 30 guys in the league, tops that you just pay for. Miles Garrett, Max Crosby, seven quarterbacks, six left tackle, you just pay for them. I don't think Mike is one of those, but you get to a point now because they've drafted. So with such mediocrity that you have to overpay for Dak, CD Lamb and Micah, you're kind of trapped. Here's Micah this week on his contract talks.
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Rob Parker
I was going to get mine no.
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Colin Cowherd
Matter what, you know, I mean, like.
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Rob Parker
The markets change every year. Their salary cap went up like another 18% this year. They numbers got nothing to do with mine. And my numbers ain't nothing got to do with them. Like, I'm younger Henderson. I mean, Hutchinson's coming off an injury. Like, everyone's circumstances is completely different. Hutch is coming off his third year. Usually guys wait four years, so it just all depends why. I mean, he's up there with Miles.
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Colin Cowherd
So, you know, it's different. Everyone's circumstance is different. If T.J. watt gets 41, I'm the agent for Micah Parsons. I want 37 and a half. I want 38. And that gives the Cowboys three players at the top of the market. Not Great. But I kind of think they're trapped. All right, J. Mac football talk ready to roll.
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Unknown
Wait, it sounded like you think Micah Parsons will be okay with 38 when TJ Watt got 41. There's no world where Micah Parsons isn't demanding to be the highest paid. He's going to want all the money and I think Dallas is going to have to give it to him. Colin, they don't have a choice. They mess this up.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I mean you look at the highest paid non quarterbacks in the league, I don't have a lot of trouble. I mean again, take out the teams.
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Jason McIntyre
I don't.
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Colin Cowherd
T.J. watt leads the NFL in sacks last five years. Jamar Chase arguably first second best receiver. Miles Garrett is a generational all time talent. Max Crosby I think is unbelievable. Justin Jefferson's probably the best weapon in the league. I don't have a problem with these. I don'. In my opinion, Micah is not in T.J. watt, Jamar Chase, Miles Garrett, Max Crosby, Justin Jefferson's class and I think he's more of a splash player.
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Unknown
I think he, he probably is. But Colin, I'm just curious. Let's look at those six names. Let's tally up the playoff wins last year. TJ Watt 0. Jamar Chase did not make it. Garrett did not make it. Hunter, they got the win over the the Chargers. Max Crosby and the Raiders did not make the playoffs. And Justin Jefferson, you know, yeah. Did not work out great for them in the postseason. So I don't know if it translates and I know it sounds too cold world to just say I'm not doing that. But I keep going back to that Devin Booker deal in the NBA. Like I thought it was a horrible deal. I think this T.J. watt deal is horrible. It just doesn't make sense.
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Colin Cowherd
You're not. Well, I, I do think, I do think you can't have a league where you just play the quarter. You just pay a quarterback. Right. We all know you pay the top quarterback. I do think there are positions that are important for would never pay a corner. I mean if you look at the positions, it's linebacker, edge receiver, edge, edge, edge receiver. Those are the right positions to pay. I think there's six positions in the NFL. I, I'm going to pay. We all know this. First of all, coach doesn't work against my cap. I'll pay the co. I'll pay Jim Harbaugh whatever he wants. But I think quarterback, left tackle, one weapon, one to two players defensively in the box. So if I had Jaylen Carter and an edge rusher. I'd probably pay both in the secondary. I am a huge believer linebackers in secondary. You should draft a corner every year. I want them cheap. I want my safeties, my corners young. Because remember, defensive players, you know this, get hurt statistically more than offensive players. When players get hurt, you want them back on the field fast as possible. Well, who recuperates and recovers faster? Players under 27. Yeah. Not players 28 and older. I want my defense, which gets hurt a lot. Young, rotational, twitchy and recovering quickly from injury.
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Unknown
So my point on the wide receiver bubble. Colin, tell me the best wide receiver in the AFC Championship game last year between the Buffalo Bills and Kansas City Chiefs. It just wasn't one.
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Colin Cowherd
It's not a great one.
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Unknown
Eagles have two good ones, I'll give them that. Washington Terry McLaurin like you could pay your receivers, that's fine, but just know that they're not the guy that's going to get you over the top. You need a balance deep roster which is, as you said earlier, what the great GMs are doing. I think that's the smart way to build a team as opposed to just hey, let's make him the highest paid non quarterback.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, Huge UFC Weekend Dana White's going to be joining us at the top of next hour.
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Rob Parker
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
Dana White Top of next hour. A huge, huge fight this weekend in the ufc. Arguably one of the biggest of the year. It's going to be a great Saturday night for ufc. I can't wait. So all week long off vacay, I've been saying, don't listen to this LeBron James stuff. He's got a no trade clause. You're not going anywhere. At least not now. Breadcrumbs becomes headlines. It's all nonsense. Here's something though. I do believe, and I believe it strongly. Clutch sports or clutch points? There's an article today that says people around the NBA believe LeBron is going to announce he's retiring after the 2025 season. And, and that may not be a year away, that he may announce this is his last season. And I do buy that for two reasons, primarily. Number one, clearly the Lakers feel Luka is the future. LeBron knows it. Luka knows it. Everybody in the organization knows it. Even when AD was dominant and in his prime, it was still LeBron's team. In LA, it was still. LeBron was the playmaker, he was sort of the shoulders up leader of the team, guiding them in timeouts, player, coach. It was LeBron's team even when AD was dominant in the COVID year. And LeBron for 23 years has been the number one priority of every organization and almost always the best player. I would say the best player. And now he's not. This year he's not going to be the best player. Luka in shape will be the best player. LeBron also knows the new owners are not going to get backed into a corner and bully. These new owners moved off Cody Bellinger, Corey Seeger, Max Scherzer, Manny Machado. They could have had Manny Machado to a long deal. He goes to their rival, the Padres and is an all star. He's an incredible player. Let him walk. Zach Grinky, let him walk. They do this, they'll pay for Ohtani in his prime. They'll pay for Mookie Betts in his prime. Or Freddie Freeman in his prime. Okay? They're, they're, they're not, they're not, not like you're going to hang around and pay a fortune. Here's the other thing. The new CBA. LeBron's too expensive and too old for a guy that won't. And you can't build around the smart teams. Now the smart GMs are getting four and five years ahead on this thing. Nobody's paying the luxury tax anymore. And everything with LeBron operates in the near term. Nobody operates like that now that knows what they're doing. So LeBron's just the latest casualty of the new CBA. People aren't going to blow through the luxury tax like Joe Lacob did for years in the warriors dynasty. That is over. And it's not his play. He's a top 1012 guy on any night. His play is remarkable, but he is now hard to sign. He's an old expensive guy who doesn't want to give you. I mean, he's, he's, I mean, sure, he'd take a four or five year deal now. You shouldn't pay him that. So the best GMs are not going to want a part of what LeBron's become. You know, it's, it's like LeBron's a little bit like those tight fitting skinny jeans. They can still look good on people, but it's not the current fashion. Right? Little out of, little out of style, a little out of fashion. So it's not his play. But I can see LeBron looking at it thinking, if you've been the number one priority and had control for 23 years. Michael Jordan didn't have control for 23 years. They told him it's the last dance. Okay? LeBron's arguably the only player in NBA history. Control beginning to end. The minute he was drafted that point forward, he had a lot of control. And the minute he didn't get it in Miami or didn't feel like he was going to get it with Pat Riley, he took it back and went to Cleveland. And so now two things are happening. He's not going to be the best player this year because Luke is in shape and will probably average 30 a game. Still won't play defense, but will average 30 a game. And Luke is the priority. So LeBron's always been the best player on any given night and, and LeBron's always been the priority. He's not. Dan woke Woiky yesterday, talked about LeBron, the Lakers. In the future, the order of operations here would have to be a request from LeBron James. I don't believe the Lakers are going to come to LeBron James with a.
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Rob Parker
Trade and say, this is what we want.
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Colin Cowherd
Will you accept it?
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Rob Parker
Right.
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Colin Cowherd
I think it would have to be.
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Dana White
The other way around.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, I think the Lakers are very comfortable, you know, being in this stage of the LeBron James business, despite sort of the inherent uncomfortabilities of it.
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Rob Parker
Particularly the win now pressure that his.
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Colin Cowherd
Presence has put on the organization since really the day he signed for this.
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Dana White
Last chapter of his career.
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Colin Cowherd
I honestly believe they went and got deandre Ayton because deep down they know it's the last year LeBron's going to be a Laker and they wanted to give him a shot. Deandre Ayton's not a perfect fit. Pouty Moody won't defend, But Luca Reeves, Deandre Ayton, LeBron James, at least to the trading deadline, it feels big. It sounds interesting, it sounds offensively elite. And it will be. It's, it's, it's not going to be as good as Houston or Denver or Oklahoma City or I think Dallas potentially, but it'll be good. And I think the owners are saying, listen, let's keep it to ourselves. Let's give him one last great run his last year in la. Let's get, because he's still a great player, let's get everything out of it. And at the trade deadline, if it's not working and Ayton's moody and you know, and LeBron, you can see his age. I doubt it, but you can see his age, then we'll make a move. But for the time being, I do think it's on the table for LeBron before the end of next season to announce. Yeah, this is it. This is going to be it. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, our three we finally had Dana White. He's busy. He's in New Orleans. UFC 318. This is going to be a great card highlighted by one of those Classic fights. Remember when McGregor and Nate Diaz would meet two and three times, and you're like, Saturday, you knew what you were going to be doing. And I think we got Dustin Poirier, who's who. He's one of the all time most likable fighters, most interesting, most entertaining. Against Max Holloway, they're meeting for a third time. I don't want to waste Dana White's time. He's the CEO and the UFC president. He is joining us live from New Orleans, and we appreciate he's a busy guy. So what's interesting, in the history of ufc, the best fighters I've ever seen are Jon Jones, who was unbelievable in his prime, and I think Khabib, who made even Conor McGregor look completely outmatched. But Dustin Poirier, who fights Holloway tomorrow, is one of the more entertaining, likable, interesting guys. He's on that second tier of guys that when he fights, I have to watch. Did you envision him when you found him being this great, this captivating for this long? Dana.
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Dana White
Who? Max and Dustin. I mean, these guys have. Yeah, yeah. Well, you never know. You never know. Obviously, you know, when he first faced Connor, they were really early in their careers, and Conor won that fight. And you never know how a guy is going to bounce back from a loss. But if you look at Poirier's last 11 fights, I mean, it's all been straight killers, and seven of them are former world champions. So he's absolutely a very special fighter, as is Max Holloway, which is what makes this fight so intriguing.
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Colin Cowherd
In the history of the ufc, nobody's landed more strikes than Holloway. And Poirier will sit in the middle of the ring and throw blows. Is. You know what's interesting about your sport, and I was talking to a member of the staff. When Caitlin Clark came to the wnba, they weren't prepared for it. They weren't well run, they weren't well organized. She's overwhelmed them. The officiating's bad. You got you. And the fertittas ran a great sport. So when Conor McGregor arrived, you were prepared for it. But like Caitlin Clark, he was so damn popular so fast. And I want you to talk about that. You have not only been on the ground floor, but you had your Caitlin Clark. You had a superstar emerge that was literally the most viral human being in American sports. So as the WNBA is struggling with Caitlin, go back to the Conner days of what it's like to run a sport, and here comes a superstar, a Taylor Swift into your lap. Do you remember? Was it great. Did it create anxiety? Take us back to that time.
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Dana White
Yeah. No, I mean, the first time that I ever sat down and had dinner with Conor McGregor in Las Vegas, he flew out from Ireland. And I left the dinner and I called Lorenzo Fertitta and I said, let me tell you what, I don't know if this guy can fight or not, but if he could even throw a punch, he's going to be a huge superstar for us. And obviously, we leaned into that. And you're right, Listen, Caitlin Clark is a massive superstar. So all the stuff that I got going on right now, I actually had my assistant look to see when I have season tickets to the Aces. So I had them find out, you know, when she was coming to town, and I'm clearing my schedule so I can go to that game and watch her play live. I agree with what you're saying.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. So you are. Apparently. I just read this the other day, and this made news. Are going to have a card at the White House. So you've gone to an island, you travel around the country. Now you're going to have something at the White House, obviously. I mean, there's security and all these things. Were you shocked when that was offered to you, or did you know that was coming?
- [34:53]
Dana White
I did not know was coming. Yeah. But when he offered it up, I was like, oh, yeah, I'm all in on this. So we've already sent a logistics team out there that have walked the White House. There's calls going back and forth every day between Craig Borsari, my head of production, and the White House. And then we will have all these renderings done within the next 10 days. And we're going to fly out, sit down and walk them through it and see what he wants and what he doesn't want.
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Colin Cowherd
So you're also going getting involved in boxing with Canelo and Crawford. So you and I have talked about this. We both grew up boxing fans. I grew up with Muhammad Ali and Frazier. I grew up with Sugar Ray and Hearns and Hagler. You did, too, as a Boston guy. And then you're part of ufc. I've. I prefer ufc. I think it's more consistent. I think the quality, the women's division. But I still have a soft spot for a great boxing match. I saw Pacquiao fight six times. So as you go into boxing, why did you choose to do it?
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Dana White
You know, I've been talking about it for a long time. You know, I've had a lot of criticism of boxing over the years, and now here I am. It's time to put my money where my mouth is. And tickets go on sale today, actually, for Canelo Crawford Legion Stadium, September 13th. Tickets on sale today. You know, for me to be able to. My first boxing match that I'm going to promote, other than McGregor, Mayweather, is Canelo versus Crawford. You know, two of the greatest fighters of our era and a big, massive fight in a stadium in Las Vegas. I mean, this whole thing just sort of fell in my lap. I have other plans in 26 and what I'm going to do with boxing, but this fight here. Yeah, this just sort of happened. Shake Turkey. And I ended up doing this deal for me to promote this fight.
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Colin Cowherd
So, Max Holloway and Dustin Poirier tomorrow. One of the hard things for you, even a Nick Khan at the wwe, although UFC is different, obviously, is finding your next star. Now, in the NFL, you have a draft. You have seven rounds of draft, and they come to you. But in your world, where do you find. Give. Take me behind the scenes on this, Dana. Where do you find your next Dustin Poirier? Where do you find your stars? Are you flying around the globe to find. Do you have a team of people that do that?
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Dana White
Yeah, we do. I have matchmakers that are always looking for up and coming talent, but we're really coming from right now. We do a show called Dana White's Contender Series.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Dana White
Starts in August. And the best unsigned fighters in the world fight each other on this show to see who earns a contract. And it's. It's been unbelievable for creating talent. We've already had three world champions come off that show. So, yeah, that's. That's really where it is right now.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay. UFC 318, Holloway, Poirier, tomorrow. The Smoothie King center in New Orleans is great, by the way. It's great, great venue. It's going to be wild because Poirier is actually from there. Holloway's from Hawaii. Before I let you go forever, there was this stupid stigma about you can't have pro teams in Vegas. And, you know, it was ridiculous. I mean, it just abs. I mean, nobody monitors sports gambling like Vegas. They don't want games thrown. So now you've got hockey, ufc, you've got a baseball coming, you've got the Raiders. For people that haven't been to Vegas in a while, are you surprised how willing over the last five years, pro sports have been? I mean, you were the first in that. Really. You. You. Because boxing was all over the place, are you surprised that people have finally embraced Vegas over The last half decade?
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Dana White
Well, I think it was the gambling issue. I think that, you know, they were so stuck on the gambling issue, and once that got over, you could tell if, if you grew up in Vegas. When you think about the UNLV Runner Rebels, they were like the pro team when I was a kid, and they were so well supported and, you know, financially and people buying tickets and the list goes on and on. I knew that. Listen, if you're going to go to an away game for your team anytime during the year, which one are you going to pick? You're definitely going to Vegas. It's a no brainer. You go in there, you have an unbelievable weekend. Tons of hotels, the greatest restaurants in the world, the best shopping. There's always something to do and it's just a no. I mean, there are so many sports teams. There's going to be a ping pong league there pretty soon. Vegas is the sports capital of the world right now.
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Colin Cowherd
Dustin Poirier, before we go. When I. But a boxer gets older and do they say to you, hey, Dana, this is going to be my last fight, do you approach them sometimes and go, you know what, man? We care about your health. We care about you as a guy. When you get a Poirier who's still very good, how. Who makes the decision? Dana, is it. Do you ever lead that and say, hey, guy, I think you got about two fights left?
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Dana White
Well, Poirier and Holloway are ranked number.
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Unknown
Four and number five in the world.
- [40:04]
Dana White
In the nastiest division in the sport. So, you know, it's not like they're on this huge decline or anything like that. And, you know, Poirier was the one that said, I think I'm ready to retire. And he wanted to do it here, you know, in his home state. And think about this. Highest grossing event in arena history tonight, over seven or Saturday night, and over 17,000 in attendance. So still a huge superstar, still, you know, on top of his game and a legitimate badass fight for his last fight, you know, his retirement fight. So, no, there's not. I would never go to a guy like Poirier and say, hey, you should think about, you know, retiring. There have been guys, but it's usually guys that are on a skid and don't want to retire that. Those are usually the ones that I say, you know, you should probably hang it up.
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Colin Cowherd
So I'm buying it tomorrow. Max Holloway, Dustin Poirier, UFC 318. Danny, you're a busy guy. I always appreciate you stopping by and giving the herd 10 minutes.
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Colin Cowherd
So in the last month, the Midas Touch Network beat Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro all combined.
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Unknown
What happens when three brothers take on right wing media and start winning? I find out on the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric.
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Colin Cowherd
We just want people to live their.
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Dana White
Lives and be happy and be able.
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Colin Cowherd
To enjoy it without some, you know.
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Rob Parker
Lunatic screaming in their face every three seconds.
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Unknown
Listen to Next Question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
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Unknown
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Colin Cowherd
Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. This is an iHeart podcast.