Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd – "Best of The Herd"
Release Date: June 20, 2025
Host/Authors: iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
1. NBA Finals: Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Indiana Pacers
Timestamp: [00:32]
The episode opens with a deep dive into the ongoing NBA Finals between the Oklahoma City Thunder (OKC) and the Indiana Pacers. Jason McIntyre expresses surprise and disappointment over OKC's recent blowout loss at home, despite their impressive regular-season record of 29-1 against Eastern teams and a record NBA point differential of +12.9 points per game.
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OKC's Performance: While OKC boasts a strong defense and young energy, their inexperience shows in high-pressure situations. McIntyre highlights variability in player performances, citing "Jalen Williams, 40 points in Game 5, minus 40 in Game 6" ([01:25]). He criticizes the young team for lacking consistency and resilience on the road.
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Indiana's Strength: The Pacers, under coach Rick Carlisle, demonstrate strategic depth and experienced leadership. McIntyre notes, "Indiana, they have the better coach... Pascal Siakam is going to deliver" ([10:20]).
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Young vs. Experienced Teams: The contrast between OKC's youth and Indiana's experience is emphasized. Jalen Rose remarks, "We don't really care. We're not locked in... I didn't see that killer instinct" ([09:19]).
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Game Seven Predictions: McIntyre predicts a strong defensive performance from OKC, leveraging their home advantage and depth, while acknowledging Indiana's coaching and Pascal Siakam’s pivotal role ([17:58]).
Notable Quotes:
- Jason McIntyre: "OKC will get these leads and they play more aggressively with a lead... But age, youth gives you a huge variance" ([01:18]).
- Jalen Rose: "The better team Sunday will win" ([04:37]).
- Rick Carlisle (Indiana Pacers Coach): "This is what it's all about... Opportunity to play in a game like this is a great honor and a great privilege" ([18:43]).
2. Baseball Rivalry: Dodgers vs. Padres
Timestamp: [04:51]
The discussion shifts to the heated rivalry between the Los Angeles Dodgers and the San Diego Padres, highlighting last night's intense game that featured altercations and high emotions in the ninth inning.
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Incident Overview: A rookie Dodgers pitcher hit Fernando Tatis Jr. on the wrist, leading to dramatic confrontations. McIntyre describes Tatis's reaction: "dramatically crumples to the ground when he got hit on the wrist" ([05:00]).
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Managerial Confrontations: Both teams' managers, Dave Roberts (Dodgers) and Mike Shildt (Padres), exited the dugouts, resulting in heated exchanges. Roberts is quoted saying, "That's what sports fans want. They want you to care" ([08:16]).
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Historical Context: McIntyre reflects nostalgically on past baseball personalities and the current return to "authentic, intense, old school" rivalries ([06:00]).
Notable Quotes:
- Dave Roberts: "I'm taking starters out of the game... That's why I felt, you know, I took that personal" ([07:49]).
- Jason McIntyre: "This is what sports fans want. They want you to care. They want passion, they want heat, they want intensity" ([08:16]).
3. Emerging Talent: Cooper Flag in the NBA Draft
Timestamp: [15:45]
A significant portion of the episode is devoted to the rising star Cooper Flag, whose performances have captured the attention of the NBA community.
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Performance Analysis: Cooper Flag is praised for his versatile skill set, outperforming expectations with superior defense, aggression, and comprehensive stats compared to contemporaries like Jason Tatum ([25:16]).
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Comparative Insights: McIntyre likens Flag’s potential to "the best domestic basketball product since Anthony Davis" and predicts a stellar career trajectory, potentially surpassing all-star benchmarks ([16:00]).
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Future Projections: Both hosts express high expectations for Flag, with McIntyre stating, "this draft is going to have a bust... but Cooper Flag is not it" ([25:31]).
Notable Quotes:
- Jason McIntyre: "I am very comfortable saying he's going to be a better player than Jason Tatum eventually and it won't take long" ([25:57]).
- Jalen Rose: "Dominant in college basketball. Dominant. He's gonna be. I'm all in on Cooper Flag. I think he's going to be spectacular" ([25:25]).
4. Lakers Ownership Transition
Timestamp: [34:18]
The podcast addresses the recent sale of the Los Angeles Lakers to Mark Walter's ownership group, discussing the implications for the franchise’s future.
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Ownership Impact: Colin Cowherd draws parallels between Mark Walter's successful management of the Dodgers and the potential positive changes for the Lakers, highlighting increased financial investment and strategic growth ([35:12]).
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Franchise Evolution: The new ownership is expected to elevate the Lakers' status, leveraging their brand and financial resources to enhance team performance and competitiveness ([36:45]).
Notable Quotes:
- Jason McIntyre: "Imagine the Lakers with the Walter, with the prestige of the franchise now being willing to spend money as much if not more than anyone else in the league" ([35:12]).
- Colin Cowherd: "They go to four World Series, one two made the playoffs every year he's been there. So now imagine the Lakers with the Walter" ([35:12]).
5. Kevin Durant’s Free Agency Speculations
Timestamp: [34:42]
The hosts delve into the complexities surrounding Kevin Durant’s free agency, exploring potential destinations and factors influencing team interest.
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Possible Destinations: Houston Rockets and Minnesota Timberwolves are highlighted as likely suitors due to their needs and Durant’s fit with these franchises ([37:48]).
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Market Challenges: Durant's perceived lack of prioritization on winning and recent injury concerns have impacted his desirability, making teams hesitant to commit to long-term, high-value contracts ([38:00]).
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Comparative Analysis: Colin contrasts Durant’s situation with past stars, noting that unlike the Brooklyn Nets’ issues with health and chemistry, Durant’s free agency remains a focal point for team strategies ([37:48]).
Notable Quotes:
- Jason McIntyre: "He’s not asking for a max contract. He’s not going to get a five-year deal. I think his messaging sometimes is that he doesn't prioritize winning. He prioritizes having fun and hooping" ([37:48]).
- Colin Cowherd: "Imagine the Lakers with the Walter... it is a very difficult place to play... So the Lakers brand is underachieved for about 10 years and now I think that will change" ([35:12]).
6. Predictions for Game Seven and Final Thoughts
Timestamp: [27:11]
As the episode nears its conclusion, the hosts offer predictions for the decisive Game Seven of the NBA Finals and reflect on the evolving landscape of sports.
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Game Seven Dynamics: McIntyre predicts that both teams will be fatigued, emphasizing the physical and mental toll of the series. He reiterates his confidence in OKC’s defensive prowess and Indiana’s strategic depth ([27:58]).
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Unlikelihood of Current Teams Being "All-Time Greats": Both hosts agree that despite OKC’s achievements, the team lacks the historical legacy and superstar presence traditionally associated with championship dynasties ([29:53]).
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Overall Sports Landscape: McIntyre appreciates the diversity of topics and the resurgence of passionate rivalries, celebrating the current week's dynamic sports events ([14:10]).
Notable Quotes:
- Jason McIntyre: "These two teams... they're another very good team with a chance to win a championship. They're not great" ([10:42]).
- Colin Cowherd: "This team would be in that group [of non-star-laden championship teams]. But even Detroit in '04... this team really... They don't have one guy that you can pencil in for 25 a night" ([29:53]).
Conclusion
The "Best of The Herd" episode provides an insightful analysis of the NBA Finals, a heated MLB rivalry, emerging basketball talents, significant changes in NBA franchise ownership, and the complexities of star player free agency. Jason McIntyre and Jalen Rose offer a balanced perspective, blending statistical analysis with passionate opinions, making the episode a comprehensive resource for sports enthusiasts.
Notable Quotes Recap:
- Jason McIntyre: "OKC will play very good defense. Doesn't mean they'll win but, But their defense won't look anything like last night" ([17:58]).
- Jalen Rose: "We suck tonight. We have to learn the lessons. And we have one game for everything" ([04:37]).
- Rick Carlisle: "Opportunity to play in a game like this is a great honor and a great privilege" ([19:02]).
