Best of The Herd

Summary

The Herd with Colin Cowherd – Best of The Herd (April 4, 2025)

Hosted by Steve Covino and Rich Davis, sponsored by iHeartPodcasts and The Volume

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1. Introduction and Opening Banter

[03:19] Steve Covino:
Steve kicks off the episode with a light-hearted discussion about his week’s pizza consumption, sharing humorous anecdotes about overeating and the challenges of maintaining healthy eating habits.

[03:26] Rich Davis:
Rich playfully teases Steve about his pizza intake, setting a relaxed and friendly tone for the show.

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2. NBA Showdown: Lakers vs. Warriors

The hosts delve into the recent NBA game between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Golden State Warriors, analyzing key performances and team dynamics.

[04:41] Rich Davis:
Rich highlights Juan Soto's debut at Citi Field, expressing surprise that "Juan Soto's first game at Citi Field is a Met barf."

[05:07] Steve Covino:
Steve shares his personal feelings about Soto’s move, stating, “I won’t forgive him for chasing the bag and leaving the Yankees with unfinished business,” indicating a mix of disappointment and frustration.

[06:35] Steve Covino:
Steve praises Jimmy Butler’s performance, noting, “Jimmy Butler, who seems to get better in high-pressure situations. He has personal unfinished business and a chip on his shoulder.”

[07:09] Rich Davis:
Rich observes, “Every Lakers fan I know felt the same way,” referring to Draymond Green’s defensive plays and his intense demeanor, adding, “His face is so punchable, I imagine.”

[10:46] Rich Davis:
Rich summarizes the Western Conference race, stating, “The three seed through the eight seed are within two and a half games of each other. That’s insane.”

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3. Playoff Prospects and Team Momentum

The conversation shifts to playoff implications, team momentum, and potential finalists.

[11:35] Steve Covino:
Steve emphasizes the importance of playoff momentum: “In every sport, it’s that team that enters the playoffs hot. The Golden State Warriors just look like they were in the zone, dominating the whole game until the very end.”

[12:00] Rich Davis:
Rich discusses LeBron James’ performance, “LeBron had a nice steal at the end of the game, and Golden State wasted that moment.”

[14:00] Rich Davis:
Rich draws parallels across sports, commenting, “In the NFL, if you’re 10 and 7, it doesn’t matter if you’re the wild card in baseball that has 88 wins.”

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4. Hypothetical Scenarios: NBA Finals Predictions

The hosts present hypothetical scenarios to predict which teams might reach the NBA Finals.

[15:05] Colin Cowherd:
Colin poses three options:

1. OKC Thunder reaching the Finals with a young team.
2. Golden State Warriors, bolstered by Jimmy Butler’s addition.
3. The Lakers, with a healthy LeBron and Luka Doncic.

[16:10] Rich Davis:
Rich expresses skepticism about smaller market teams, stating, “I’m the type of guy that’s way more excited about Happy Gilmore 2 than some Academy award-winning film.”

[17:10] Rich Davis:
Rich explains the allure of marquee teams: “We just think that it’s going to be one of them [Warriors or Lakers]. But not only are the Thunder a good team, they’re historically great by almost every statistical measure.”

[20:17] Ryan Music:
Ryan opts for the OKC Thunder, balancing his loyalty as a lifelong LA supporter with the statistical prowess of the Thunder: “They’re the best team in the league all season.”

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5. Coaching Decisions in Youth Sports

A segment on coaching ethics and decisions in youth sports, particularly focusing on lineup choices based on player attendance and performance.

[33:05] Steve Covino:
Steve shares his philosophy: “I wouldn’t take out the kid just because his parents suck. I never take him out.”

[34:09] Steve Covino:
Steve emphasizes teaching fundamentals: “Your goal isn't necessarily to win because there's a little. Do it while you can because next year I think you're playing to win.”

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6. Tribute to Val Kilmer: Favorite Films

In honor of Val Kilmer’s passing, the hosts and guests discuss their favorite Kilmer movies.

[34:31] Rich Davis:
Rich lists “Tombstone” as his top pick, appreciating its classic status: “Tombstone will be my go-to this weekend.”

[35:12] Colin Cowherd:
Colin reminisces about Kilmer’s versatility, suggesting older films like “Willow” to showcase his range.

[37:09] Rich Davis:
Rich and Steve debate their preferences, with Steve expressing a strong preference for the original “Top Gun” despite not being a big fan initially.

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7. Interactive Segment: "Quote Me" Game

Listeners participate in an interactive "Quote Me" game, identifying who made specific quotes related to sports commentary.

[42:04] Rich Davis:
Rich reads a listener’s submission: “Andy Reid should step down as head coach. This is not a one-game loss question.”

[45:05] Steve Covino:
Steve identifies Cole Covino’s quote about Nikola Jokic: “I’m going up against the best of the best of the best bigs.”

[46:50] Rich Davis:
Rich and Steve correctly attribute criticisms of Zion Williamson to Ben Maller, highlighting heated sports debates.

[48:34] Ryan Music:
Ryan participates by correctly identifying Dan Patrick’s quote about social media gestures.

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8. Listener Engagement and Bets

The hosts engage with listeners through bets and interactive discussions.

[30:21] Rich Davis:
Rich and Steve discuss a personal bet: “Whoever has the best team record between the Yankees and Mets wins a thousand dollars, plus additional stakes based on game performance.”

[50:37] Colin Cowherd:
Colin facilitates the bet, adding stakes tied to future performances: “When the Dodgers repeat, you both give me a thousand.”

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9. Closing Remarks and Upcoming Content

The episode concludes with announcements about upcoming shows, new podcast seasons, and reminders for listeners to engage.

[38:53] Danny G:
Danny promotes “The Middle with Jeremy Hobson,” emphasizing balanced national conversations.

[40:53] Wendy:
Wendy shares a poignant reflection from the podcast “Bone Valley,” highlighting personal stories and tragedies.

[43:45] Ryan Music:
Ryan encourages listener participation, maintaining the interactive spirit of the show.

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Notable Quotes

• Steve Covino [05:07]:
  “I won’t forgive him for chasing the bag and leaving the Yankees with unfinished business.”

• Rich Davis [11:35]:
  “The three seed through the eight seed are within two and a half games of each other. That’s insane.”

• Tom [45:30]:
  “The New Orleans Pelicans thought they were going to be making a bust of Zion Williamson for the pro bouncy ball hall of Fame. Instead, he's a different kind of bust, the kind you don't want to have.”

• Ryan Music [47:34]:
  “Listen to new episodes of bone Valley Season 2, starting April 9 on the iHeartRadio app.”

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Conclusion

In this episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, hosts Steve Covino and Rich Davis navigate through passionate sports debates, personal anecdotes, and interactive listener segments. From dissecting NBA playoff potentials to honoring cinematic legends like Val Kilmer, the show offers a blend of insightful analysis and engaging entertainment. The dynamic interplay between the hosts, coupled with listener participation, ensures a comprehensive and enjoyable listening experience for sports enthusiasts and casual fans alike.

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[Colin Cowherd]

This is the best of the herd with Colin Cowher on Fox sports radio.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, lucky you, because I'm feeling good today.

[Steve Covino]

I mean, it's Friday and we're in for Colin on the Herd. I feel great, minus all the pizza I have this week. Aside from that, I feel fantastic.

[Rich Davis]

Covino, you look like you had a lot of pizza.

[Steve Covino]

Rich. I did. I'm still bloated. It's like the first day. Here's what happened. I bought a lot of pizza. So it lasted me like through the whole week. So I had like pizza every day this week.

[Rich Davis]

That's why I always tell people if they come over my place, take food with you, get this out of my house.

[Steve Covino]

I just like, what am I gonna do it? I can't throw it away. Guess I'll have to eat it. Pizza again. Anyway, I'm glad the weekend's here. Happy to be here. I'm Steve Cavino. That is Rich Davis. We got music in the house. What up, music?

[Rich Davis]

What's up, Brian?

[Steve Covino]

We got Danny G. We got choco cheeks, sexy Ryan over there and spotty hanging out. Thank you guys for hanging with us. Fox sports radio nation. We try to get you involved at 8-7-7, 4, the herd. 8, 7:7, 4, the herd. Everything at Covino and Rich. Now, if you're new to our show, we're on Monday through Friday, 2 to 4 out here on the west, 5 to 7 on the east. We have a bonus podcast called over promised on Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page. But always a pleasure to be here and I hope you had a Golden state warriors sort of Thursday night.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, it was a great game. We're going about the NBA. We're going to talk about the NFL, the Draft is a couple of weeks away. But before we get to all that, I got to say today's a very special day back on the East Coast. Juan Soto's first game at Citi Field is a Met barf.

[Steve Covino]

Really? Whatever. I can't root at all for that guy.

[Rich Davis]

It's wild how Covino feels personally hurt that Juan Soto left the Yankees.

[Steve Covino]

I don't hate the guy. But hold that note, because later on in the show, if we have time, because it's action packed, we got to talk some stocks, players, stocks. In fact, we got to talk some NFL. We got to talk about players and entertainers and people you'll never forgive. And Juan Soto's one of those guys for me. Doesn't mean I hate the guy. Doesn't mean I wish him harm.

[Rich Davis]

To never forgive him.

[Steve Covino]

Hold on. Doesn't mean.

[Rich Davis]

Did he hurt you? Did he break your heart?

[Steve Covino]

See, here's the thing. Like, people think I'm gonna lose sleep over it. And every night I'm kicking and screaming like, want soda? Why, That's. That's not it at all. But I won't forgive him for chasing the bag and leaving the Yankees with unfinished business. So we'll explain. We'll talk about later. People that you'll never forgive.

[Rich Davis]

All right, well, let's start where everyone left off last night. You were watching some NBA, I'm guessing, Lakers, Warriors. Whether you tuned in for the whole game or just the fourth quarter, you got the vibe of that game. And let me throw the stat out to start the conversation. And then I know Danny G, our super producers, got some hypotheticals and some thoughts, but everyone's focusing on Luka. Luka Luca since he joined the Lakers. You know, since Anthony Davis went to the Dallas Mavericks and got hurt. I'm not saying it's under the radar, but Jimmy Butler immersing himself in Golden State 19 and 2 when him and Steph are playing together, 20 and 4 since that trade, Golden State, they got.

[Steve Covino]

Some buzz, they got momentum and gaining momentum. Jimmy Butler, who seems to get better in high pressure situations. Right. He still has a lot to prove. He has personal unfinished business. He has a chip on his shoulder from everything that went down this year, and he's known as playoff Jimmy. So you have to figure once playoffs hit, he's only going to step up even more. The Golden State warriors get more dangerous, and Draymond Green still playing good defense, so they look pretty solid. Man, Steph making Luka look bad yesterday.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, every Lakers fan I know felt the same way. Because when I saw Draymond Green after a couple of great defensive plays in the fourth, when he does a little growl like, ah, he gets all pumped up his face.

[Steve Covino]

And again, he's trying to show, too, that he's still the guy and he still has it.

[Rich Davis]

His face is so punchable, I imagine.

[Steve Covino]

To Lakers fans, dude, first of all.

[Colin Cowherd]

That dude needs to shave his hair, shave his head.

[Steve Covino]

No. Play for Mr. Gray.

[Colin Cowherd]

And color that beard. If you're gonna rock a beard. It looks like Old man Winters.

[Steve Covino]

I know. I agree with you. I mean, I don't know why that's a thing. I don't know why. Especially in the NBA, which is a young man's game, you want to show your age and wisdom. I don't get that.

[Rich Davis]

The whole wisdom thing. An amazing advantage when it comes to hair color. For all the black dudes in the NBA, you could dye your hair black. If you're a white dude with a shade of brown. You dye your hair the wrong color, you look like Robert goulet in the 80s. In the 80s or 90s, a black dude could just comb it in the beard.

[Steve Covino]

When comb it in with dudes in their 20s, you're lucky.

[Colin Cowherd]

You are lucky. You could. You could color your hair literally until the day you die.

[Rich Davis]

Camino, you always say you have that advantage, being that you're a Mexican dude. You say you. You just used.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, but I use the one with the Mexican guy on the COVID of the box. Just for vatos. Just for vatos.

[Colin Cowherd]

That's not a real thing.

[Steve Covino]

It is a real thing.

[Rich Davis]

Should be.

[Steve Covino]

I buy it at Vallarta. No, but seriously, I just don't get that because it just makes him look older, which makes it more surprising, like, oh, Draymond, still got it.

[Rich Davis]

You know what he's playing. He's playing young, though.

[Steve Covino]

He is. He's playing big. And they looked good. Now, we got to make it clear. We're out here in Los Angeles and Danny G, Our producer, is a big time Lakers guy. I lean Lakers Eileen and root for the Lakers. Been out in LA for 15 years. I never really had an NBA team that I embraced. Of course, I grew up watching the Knicks and the Nets, but. Oh, let's be real.

[Rich Davis]

Let's be real. Kavino lived in Jersey, was a Nets fan, and then a girlfriend of his left him for a guy on the Nets. Yeah, that'll make you not like a team anymore.

[Steve Covino]

That was. That was kind of tough. So being out here, I mean, imagine.

[Rich Davis]

Imagine you're dating a girl that leaves you for A guy on the team you root for, you might not like that team as much.

[Steve Covino]

Whatever. Hearing me on the herd right now, she probably regrets it.

[Rich Davis]

What would you do if your girl left you and you found out she was sleeping with Aaron Judge?

[Steve Covino]

I'd be tough. Yeah. I'd have nightmares about that for sure. Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, God.

[Steve Covino]

Seven mastodon. That's hard to.

[Rich Davis]

My God.

[Steve Covino]

It's hard to imagine. I feel real inferior. That would be.

[Colin Cowherd]

That would be like, if your current girl left you for another radio star right now.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

But guess what?

[Colin Cowherd]

Like Mad Dog Russo, he doesn't use.

[Steve Covino]

A torque torpedo bat, so he might.

[Rich Davis]

Have a torpedo bat. Is that a torpedo bat in your. In your baseball pants?

[Steve Covino]

But why would you say that? Yeah, it would. It would affect my rooting interest, at least throughout his career.

[Rich Davis]

But since you've been out here, you. You said that the Lakers are a fun watch.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. So I want to make it clear that that's the perspective we're coming from. Like, we're not Lakers haters. We're not necessarily fans either. But I'm rooting, like, come on, come on, Lakers, let's go. I want to see Luca the LA Lucas do their thing. And I'm saying that because I'm watching, thinking the whole time, sorry, Danny G. Sorry, Lakers fans. I'm like, the Golden State warriors look like the better team right now. And I know it's just one game, and I don't want to be prisoner of the moment like we always say, but the Golden State warriors just look like they were in the zone, dominating the whole game until the very end. The Lakers stepped up a little bit, and I think they're only going to get better from here.

[Rich Davis]

Well, unless you're a team that dominates from start to finish, you end up being a team in the NFL that, you know, wins 14 games plus and just dominate a baseball team that wins a hundo. Plus music and I were talking while we were walking to get coffee before the show, and we were saying how in every sport, it's that team that enters the playoffs hot. It doesn't matter if they're 10 and 7 in the NFL. Doesn't matter if they're the wild card in baseball that has 88 wins. That is the dangerous team. I. I don't care if the Golden State warriors have won 10 less games in some of their NBA, you know, championship seasons. Golden State, right now, you heard the stats when Steph and Jimmy Butler play together 19 and 2. That team is scary.

[Steve Covino]

Scary. And that was an away game for them. That was in la, that matters. I'm like, this is the statement game. That's why we were all tuned in. It was a TNT game. We're watching statement game. Let's see what the Lakers got. Let's see where they stand. And I'm thinking, man, I thought the Lakers. That was the feeling. I thought the Lakers are better than this. Danny G, what's the assessment as far as, like, was it an off night for Luca?

[Rich Davis]

Seemed, I mean, for six from three.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah, definitely an off night shooting for Luca. But then you saw what he was able to do to contribute to the team with those slick passes. And he was the one that helped lead the charge to get him to 105 to 100, where it looked like they might make a comeback. Austin Reeves hitting those threes in clutch time. But overall, the Lakers defense was off just to start the week against the.

[Steve Covino]

Rockets till the very end.

[Colin Cowherd]

The second seed Rockets lost to the Lakers to start the week. Lakers were shooting better in that game. Their defense was on point last night. They did not lock down on defense until towards the end of the game.

[Steve Covino]

You also got to capitalize on big moments. LeBron had a nice steal the end of the game, and Golden State warriors got it back. Wasted moment. That could have been their chance. And again, that's what big teams do. They capitalize on those moments. However, LeBron James again, 33 points, that's a positive. You had Austin Reeves playing big, hitting shots at the end with 31 points. There were positives and they were battling. But to me, the Golden State warriors look like they had more momentum, more fire, more juice. And again, as the season gets late and we hit the playoffs, Jimmy Butler steps up even more. They're looking a little more, a little more scary to me.

[Rich Davis]

Well, the Western Conference, I think it's safe to say, is tighter than a pair of skinny jeans in the 2010s.

[Steve Covino]

You mean tighter than your skinny jeans in the 2010s.

[Rich Davis]

What were you wearing?

[Steve Covino]

This dude was wearing ballerina pants.

[Rich Davis]

What are you wearing? Carpenter jeans. One of the Carpenters, Rich Davis pants.

[Steve Covino]

Were so tight they had like stirrups on the bottom. You know what I mean? Like, he had to put his feet through them. So he was wearing ballerina pants.

[Rich Davis]

If you look at the Western Conference right now, the three seed through the eight seed are within two and a half games of each other. That's insane. I mean, you could say once again, and it doesn't matter, but I'm sure some teams want that home court advantage. Some teams don't want to have to play in a play in game. So again, the Nuggets, Lakers, Golden State, Memphis, Minnesota and the Clippers all within two and a half games of each other.

[Steve Covino]

Tight.

[Rich Davis]

That's it. It's going to come down to the final week and you know, you start thinking about matchups and that could be, that could be a big determining factor.

[Steve Covino]

And health is a huge factor here too. And that's the other conversation today. You know, people were watching that game, watching it closely. Does one game tell the whole story? No, you'd have to play out a whole series. Right. And I would imagine, and that's why we're so excited to talk about it. You can imagine that it would be a battle if it was a full on series back and forth. But the talk today is would the Lakers have been better with a healthy ad? And I would say no. Luke is still the guy. You make that move every day of the week. He just had an off game and it's as simple as that. You just don't want to have off games when the world is watching and when it matters. Because that was a statement game. And you're given the Golden State warriors extra confidence and you're adding to the momentum they already have.

[Rich Davis]

All right, now, Danny G. Before the show, you said, all right, well, when you guys wrap your little recap, I got some NBA hypotheticals. What you got?

[Colin Cowherd]

All right, so Western Conference options for you guys, choose one, go to Covino, you, Rich and Ryan. Music.

[Rich Davis]

Okay.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right. One, two or three. We'll start with you, Covino. All right, one. The OKC Thunder, who may win 70 games this season, power their way to the NBA Finals despite the fact that they are a young team whose average age is just under 26. Second option, the Golden State warriors, who of course added Jimmy playoffs at the right time, knock down endless threes with Stephen Co. Still have a top defender in Draymond and they fight their way to the NBA Finals. Or three. The Lakers, who now have a mostly healthy LeBron and Luca, put it all together run and gun with Austin Reeves nailing threes and JJ Redick has them locked down their defense all the way to the NBA Finals. Which one of those three is most likely?

[Steve Covino]

I'll be prisoner of the moment right now and say with playoff. Jimmy, like we're not seeing the best of this guy is going to be the Golden State warriors for me. Oklahoma City Thunder too young, too inexperienced for that moment. I think they're hot right now.

[Rich Davis]

Come playoffs, going to be different games, better than anyone else.

[Steve Covino]

Like you said, Danny, they're going to end up with 70 wins, 64 and 12.

[Rich Davis]

They're 15 games better than I got three.

[Steve Covino]

I'm going with the Golden State Warriors. Based on what I saw yesterday and based on the potential.

[Colin Cowherd]

Something ironic, Covino? The last team or the only team to be that young and win the NBA Finals. The 201415 Warriors. So the team you just picked.

[Steve Covino]

Wow.

[Colin Cowherd]

All right, let's go with you, Rich. Thunder warriors or Lakers?

[Rich Davis]

Let me let it be known that I'm the type of guy that's way more excited about Happy Gilmore 2 than some Academy award winning film. I like entertainment. I'm not the guy that cares about.

[Steve Covino]

Like how about that Naked Gun trailer, man?

[Rich Davis]

See like I'm excited about the Naked Gun trailer.

[Steve Covino]

Debuted yesterday. Looks great.

[Rich Davis]

Yo, big sexy run. You just like huffed Liam Neeson. Yeah, playing Frank Drubbin Jr. No, that's a Will Ferrell role. Not for Liam Neeson. Dave, have you seen the trailer?

[Ryan Music]

Yeah, unfortunately.

[Rich Davis]

I think he could do it.

[Steve Covino]

He's gonna find you and kill you. Well, he has a personal opinion about black people.

[Rich Davis]

So maybe, who knows.

[Colin Cowherd]

It's a special set of comedy.

[Rich Davis]

So we shall see. Again, I'm the type of guy that I just. I love entertainment. Don't show me this Academy award winning movie.

[Steve Covino]

Boring.

[Rich Davis]

And I feel that way about Oklahoma City because I'm the guy. Call me, call me basic Rich.

[Steve Covino]

I do all the time.

[Rich Davis]

Actually, I'm a basic rich because I way rather see Golden State or the Lakers. I think.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, I'm with you. I think even more entertainment value. Yes.

[Rich Davis]

It's not just me, the NBA, the league, ratings, networks, everyone wants this to come down to. Golden State, the Lakers, even the Joker. That's even more exciting.

[Colin Cowherd]

I think if sounds like you're racist against small markets.

[Rich Davis]

Listen, I am. If Oklahoma City goes all the way, it may be the lowest rated NBA finals of all time.

[Steve Covino]

I think I hate agreeing with Rich. I think he's absolutely right.

[Rich Davis]

I think. You know, again, call me.

[Colin Cowherd]

Have you watched SGA and Homegrown and those guys play this year? I don't think you guys have watched any Thunder games.

[Rich Davis]

I. You know what, I will say I've not watched enough of them. But I just know what sparks my interest. Call me Basic Covino.

[Colin Cowherd]

Your boy Caruso is on the Thunder.

[Steve Covino]

No, I watch him. I saw, you know, I saw him the other night. Looking good.

[Rich Davis]

People are saying that SGA has like, dare I say this, like Jordan esque vibes. Like there's Moments where he has similarities. But to me, Lakers, like, just. Just purely for the entertainment. Like, yo, could LeBron win one more? Luca couldn't get the job done in Dallas last year. Do they have the gas? And you know, J.J. redick wasn't ready to be a coach, right? And now all of a sudden, oh, he's just LeBron's podcast partner and a blowhard on ESPN. Now the guy could be coaching a team to the NBA Finals. I think the Lakers is a great story. And Golden State, I think OKC is 15 games better than anyone else yet I don't care.

[Steve Covino]

And it's amazing we're still talking about those two teams, you know, after all these years.

[Rich Davis]

You know what it's like based on the guess there's only so many more runs, right? Like, remember when we were watching the NFL and you're like, how many more times are we going to get Brady Manning this? There's only so many times we could get these two guys, Steph and LeBron. And now add in Jimmy Butler and Luca. This is, you know, aging superstars, but.

[Steve Covino]

How many more times Storyline more exciting.

[Rich Davis]

I almost feel like you can get SGA for the next decade.

[Steve Covino]

You added a good cast of character, so still has our interest when it comes to the gas. You have to give the Lakers credit last night because they actually stepped up toward the end of the game and scored more than the Golden State warriors in the fourth quarter. You know, I thought they were going to trail off. They actually had a chance. They actually came back. So that's surprising. Like, they still have the gas. LeBron still the guy. And again, he still had a big steal that could have put the Lakers right there in it. So again, if you missed it, they lost. Golden State warriors win. 123. 116 music.

[Colin Cowherd]

Out of those three options music, which one's most likely to happen?

[Ryan Music]

So my heart and my head pulled me in two different directions here. As a lifelong LA guy, I'm obviously wanting the Lakers to make the run, but I am going to be the one to say that it's going to be the Oklahoma City Thunder.

[Steve Covino]

Okay, that's your head speaking. There's.

[Ryan Music]

There's so much doubt because we haven't seen it. And we have so much built in equity into seeing LeBron and Steph do it in the past. We just think that it's a given that inevitably it's going to be one of them. But not only are the Thunder a good team, they're like, historically great by almost every statistical measure. It just makes you look back on it at the end of the season or a couple years from now where.

[Rich Davis]

We'Re going to go.

[Ryan Music]

Man, it seems weird that we even doubted the fact that the Thunder were not going to be the team coming out of the west when they very clearly were the best team in the league all season.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, you know, it's again, I'll make the analogy that, you know, I.

[Steve Covino]

The bright lights do matter though in sports. Young players, young fighters, young anybody.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. But in some cases, I think we all are a little basic where it's like, well, unless you're a die hard OKC fan, I think the average person will be like, yeah, it would be probably be more fun to watch Steph Curry, you know, knocking down threes one last time or LeBron, you know, it's. It's sort of like when people hate on people that like mainstream music or mainstream movies and like, oh, I know this indie band. I don't really care about your indie band. That's how I feel about like small market basketball teams. Like, yeah, you go, go to the, you know, small club and watch your band. I'll go to Sofi and watch, you know, here's, here's another Taylor Swift.

[Ryan Music]

Here's another comp for you. So golf, right? Masters coming up in a week. Going into every tournament. Now, obviously he had a super lame April Fools joke about trying to make a comeback, but we know Tiger woods isn't playing. But just in a big picture sense, every year at the Masters, we all want Tiger woods perfect to be there on Sunday to win.

[Steve Covino]

You still believe?

[Ryan Music]

Yeah, that's where we want it to be. But in our heads we're going to be like, of course it's going to be Scottie Scheffler.

[Rich Davis]

He's so much better.

[Ryan Music]

Right here and now that at the end of the tournament you're like, man, why did I think that Tiger was going to make another run? I clearly should have gone with someone like Scottie Scheffler, who's much better right now.

[Rich Davis]

Dude, you're so right. Great analogy. Hey, listen, your thoughts eight, seven, seven the herd, if you want to chime in. Or at Covino and Rich as we fill in for our buddy, the great Colin Cowherd. We're talking about forgiveness in sports also. Then don't look at your 401k or portfolio today.

[Steve Covino]

No, I wasn't going to. Trust me.

[Rich Davis]

So being that the market's in the pooper, we're gonna talk about players that were got on the cheap.

[Steve Covino]

What's worse looking at the market or looking at like your ex with her new guy. Hey, I got photos of your ex with her new guy. You wanna see him?

[Rich Davis]

I may rather look at my portfolio, but we're gonna talk about players that are on contracts that you feel are great buys because a lot of people say now might be the time to buy. We'll get to all that next right here. Fox Sports Radio Be sure to catch.

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[Danny G]

We live in a divided country.

[Rich Davis]

I am a lifelong Republican with all.

[Danny G]

Kinds of different people.

[Steve Covino]

You know, I'm a mother, I'm a grandmother.

[Danny G]

That's why we started the Middle with Jeremy Hobson. It's about bringing voices not from the extremes, but from the vast middle into the national conversation.

[Steve Covino]

Anna, I'm calling from Las Vegas.

[Danny G]

Each week we bring together an all star panel. Mark Cuban, so great to have you on the Middle.

[Rich Davis]

Thanks for having me.

[Danny G]

Jeremy, Neil Degrasse Tyson, welcome to the Middle.

[Colin Cowherd]

Thanks for having me.

[Danny G]

And hear from ordinary Americans from all over the country on the most important issues.

[Steve Covino]

Hi, my name is Venkat. I'm calling you from Atlanta, Georgia.

[Danny G]

And when you subscribe to the Middle, you also get an episode each week called One Thing Trump did that focuses on just one item from the avalanche of news.

[Wendy]

We should be examining what our government spends its money on and are these.

[Rich Davis]

Jobs necessary and what are we doing here? But that doesn't seem to be what.

[Colin Cowherd]

We'Re doing in this situation.

[Danny G]

Listen to the middle with Jeremy Hobson on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rich Davis]

Good day. I said good day.

[Steve Covino]

Gonna make it a good day. Great day with Covino and Rich. The CNR show in for Colin on the Herd giving away prizes next hour. And again you're invited to our party. Live broadcast party, June 20th through the 22nd in Vegas. So just book your flights details to come. But we're going to be out there celebrating and we're happy to be here on the Herd. I'm Steve Covino. That is rich. We got Danny G producing on the phones. 877 for the herd. That's 877-484-3437. We got big sexy Ryan. We got Ryan music. We have spot on the videos at Covino and Rich I.

[Rich Davis]

Before we get to the hardline news.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

And forgiveness and the NBA and the NFL. I got three rando questions for you. You cool with that?

[Steve Covino]

I guess.

[Rich Davis]

And they're all over the place because ADD it is at its finest with me.

[Steve Covino]

Can I say one last thing though?

[Colin Cowherd]

Sure.

[Steve Covino]

When it comes to Spy Tech and his son making the decisions for The Raiders.

[Rich Davis]

Yes.

[Steve Covino]

10 year old nose picking son. I was having an epiphany. I was in the hallway thinking and I was like, you know what, it sounds ridiculous, but it's not that ridiculous because we all do that sort of thing on a lower and lesser level. Like how many people listening bought a car because their kid liked it or got an apartment or bought a house because their kid was like, yeah, this is the one. It's great. I really like it. And at the end of the day, it helped you make the decision, but you had the final decision. So with Spy Tech, yeah, his kid is pointing him in a direction with Ashton Jackson, but he's still making the final decision. So it sounds silly, but it's not that silly.

[Rich Davis]

It doesn't sound that silly because when my wife and I were looking for a house, this is a true story. Our kids were very little and when we walked in the house we looked at the kids to be like, yo, like, yeah. Are they vibing?

[Steve Covino]

And they're like, yeah, we love it. And like, well, they love it. If you're kind of.

[Rich Davis]

You made the decision. If your kids eyes light up, that's, that's the story right there. That's your answer.

[Steve Covino]

It's the same thing on a much bigger level with the Raiders. But he's a superstar player. You're probably going to get Superstar results again. 5, 9, 2 15. Ashton Genty of Boise State. Now that was my thought. You have rando questions. Three rando questions and then we're going to talk forgiveness.

[Rich Davis]

All right. The Yankees are currently what, four and two?

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

Mets are currently what, three and three. So right now you have a one game lead over me. Meaning I'm a Mets fan. Camino's a Yankees fan. In the beginning of the season, we made a bet. Thousand dollars. Whose ever team had a better record? Do you want to up the ante at all?

[Steve Covino]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Rich Davis]

Meaning I don't want. I'm not going to say like another couple thousand.

[Steve Covino]

I made this bet before Garrett Cole went down.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, it's an. Excuse me. I'm giving. You have a one game lead right now. Five games into the season, I'm sor.

[Steve Covino]

Six games in, I'm still confident in the Yankees.

[Rich Davis]

So if I were to say yeah, thousand dollar bet.

[Steve Covino]

Okay.

[Rich Davis]

And then an additional hundred for each game that they're better. So if the Mets are. If The Mets are five games better and they win, that's 15.

[Steve Covino]

I know you're looking for the radio effect of like, let's go.

[Rich Davis]

No, I'm looking for you to back down. You're saying the Yankees are so great.

[Steve Covino]

I'm not backing down. But what I do want is like, let me think about it for a minute. Like you're not going to get to.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

All right, well, hold on.

[Rich Davis]

Music. During the break, how much was Kavino talking? Fact about how great the Yankees are and Soto made a mistake in the Mets tank.

[Steve Covino]

That's true.

[Ryan Music]

There was, yeah. Some very heated discussions about the superiority of the Yankees over the Mets.

[Rich Davis]

Take the last. Take the last sip of your cold brew. Go ahead, let's hear it. Last sip of your cold brew. 100 bucks for each additional game.

[Steve Covino]

I got to think about it. You're not going to get the handshake right now.

[Colin Cowherd]

Okay, how about this? When the Dodgers repeat, you both give me a thousand.

[Rich Davis]

You know what, Danny? That's easy money for you. That's, that's the goal is The Dodgers win 120 games and much like every other team in every other major sport, the best record. This is a fun fact. Music. I'm sure Colin has pointed this out. The Bruins, the Patriots, the Mariners. And who'd I miss? Oh, the Warriors. Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

All four best records. Those teams all went on to lose in the playoffs, so best records doesn't.

[Steve Covino]

Mean best team always. I'm hoping that the best record.

[Rich Davis]

I'm hoping The Dodgers go 120 and then losing the NLDS. Anyway, that's question one. So Kavino backs down.

[Steve Covino]

No, no, no, no. But hold on, let me get this right before we move on, not to drag it out, you said let's up the ante. Do you want to make it $2,000 and. Or just another hundred dollars for every game?

[Rich Davis]

Thousand dollar bet. And then a hundred dollars for each game. That's. So if the Yankees have an eight game better record than the Mets, that's 1800.

[Steve Covino]

Okay, so. All right, let me think about it.

[Rich Davis]

Okay, question number two. If you coach kids sports like I do, I'm coaching My daughter's 8U softball and my son's pony ball T ball.

[Steve Covino]

Are you really coaching now? I heard your daughter's pulling all the strings here. I heard your daughter made the lineup.

[Rich Davis]

She made the lineup. No, here's the question. Is this because. Remember when you were a kid playing sports? Because we all did.

[Steve Covino]

Your daughter said to draft a little Becky McMillan.

[Rich Davis]

So when you were a kid, was there any better time than playing sports? Right. Not. Not. Nothing else compares to Pop Warner football, pal Basketball, Little League, Ponyball. Is it fair as a coach for me to bat kids later in the lineup that show up late because it's on their parents? But if I'm saying, all right, kids show up a half hour, an hour before the game for warmups. If, you know, little Johnny's good, but he's showing up right before the game and his dad's all klutzy like, oh, sorry, he's here. And I'm like, yeah, I put him at the bottom of the lineup. Do you make your lineup based on the kids that are there or if the kids parents are flaky, like the kid misses practices, but they're good.

[Steve Covino]

I wouldn't take out the kid just because his parents suck. I never take him out.

[Rich Davis]

But I'm saying if I'm making the lineup and it's 15 minutes before game time, and you know, little Becky Johnson's not there because her mom's like flustered and I'm making the lineup. She might if she's our. One of our best players. Do I say, you're here 10 minutes before the game, you're batting last.

[Steve Covino]

I'd make the adjust. Well, at this stage of the game, your. Your goal isn't necessarily to win because there's a little. So.

[Rich Davis]

But just to teach lessons maybe, I.

[Steve Covino]

Don'T know, teach a lesson. And yeah, I would say that's you're teaching Fundamentals, you're teaching lessons. That's really the stage you're at right now. So do it while you can because next year I think you're playing to win. Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

And the last question. We lost Val Kilmer this week. If you were to recommend. Let's go around the Room Music. Big Sexy Ryan, Danny G. Spotty, even. Chime in if you want. If you were to recommend one Val Kilmer movie for everyone to watch this weekend to honor the late, great actor, 65, passed away. What's your go to Val Kilmer movie Music Man?

[Ryan Music]

I'm torn between two, but I'm gonna give us both.

[Rich Davis]

Give us both. What are you.

[Ryan Music]

The first one that came to mind was Tombstone, but he is also very, very close. I'll go with Tombstone if I got to choose one.

[Steve Covino]

It's wild how everybody has a favorite. That's what we've learned and noticed as we honor him this week. Everyone has a different go to. When you say Tombstone, I think of pizza and the movie. So, yeah, that sounds like a good plan for the weekend because I haven't had enough pizza this week.

[Rich Davis]

I know.

[Steve Covino]

Now Tombstone is the one I would like to see because it's been a minute and it's the most classic. Even though there's so many great options. Like I've seen Doors. I always say he's more Jim Morrison than Jim Morrison in that movie, but I've seen it so many times. Tombstone will be my go to this weekend.

[Rich Davis]

Danny G. Big Sexy Ryan. What you guys got?

[Colin Cowherd]

I'll go first here since Tombstone was already taken. How about one from the late 80s? Burn this VHS tape out. It was in our collection. Willow, think of Val Kilmer as an action star in that movie.

[Rich Davis]

Sexy Rhyme Two, actually.

[Steve Covino]

Top secret and real genius.

[Rich Davis]

Good one. These are good ones. I'm going to go way recent just because the guy to the. To the right of me that thinks his Yankees are going to win 100 games this year. Steve Cavino has never seen Top Gun.

[Steve Covino]

Maverick and that's true. Yes. And I'm sticking to it. Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

And on our show yesterday afternoon into the evening, Rich, you were pestering him to do that, which is a mistake.

[Steve Covino]

Well, yeah.

[Rich Davis]

Camino's the type of guy that if you tell him to do something, he won't do it.

[Steve Covino]

I don't know if it's like a trait that I inherited from my dad or like a Mexican thing. My mom's Mexican. Because they often say that the more you pressure Canelo Alvarez to do something. Not comparing myself to the great Canelo. But I am. The more you pressure him to fight like a David Benavidez, the more he's.

[Rich Davis]

Like, now I won't. Now I won't do it. You tell me to do it, I won't do it. I don't need to do anything. I'm Canelo.

[Steve Covino]

The more people pressure me to do things, the less I'm inclined to want your hard headed. I have to feel like it's my own choice. And the more he pushes this movie on me, the more I'm like, no, because I wasn't.

[Rich Davis]

Here's the thing, it's not a big.

[Steve Covino]

I'm gonna watch Tombstone and the White Lotus finale.

[Rich Davis]

It's not, it's not a big role for Val Kilmer. But I was telling him powerful. I was telling him that I wasn't even a big Top Gun fan as a kid. I want to put Top Gun as one of my favorite 80s movies.

[Steve Covino]

Watched the original recently. I used to. I watched it when I was a kid. I used to play the video game for Nintendo, Top Gun. I watched it recently. I was never that need for Speed kid. I did not like the original. I hated it in fact. So like for me, the sequels and.

[Colin Cowherd]

Action is actually a better.

[Rich Davis]

Agreed.

[Colin Cowherd]

Wouldn't you agree?

[Rich Davis]

I told dude, we're talking the same language. Back to the Future Goonies, Indiana Jones, Karate Kid, we all love the same things. Top Gun was not in my top list. But the second one, you got a nice big tv, the Sonos surround sound.

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[Steve Covino]

Well, if there was any weekend in honor, it's this weekend.

[Colin Cowherd]

Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.

[Steve Covino]

Hey, it's Steve Covino and I'm Rich Davis and together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio.

[Rich Davis]

You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio.

[Steve Covino]

Applause why should you listen to Covino and Rich?

[Rich Davis]

We talk about everything. Life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world.

[Steve Covino]

We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture. Stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss.

[Rich Davis]

And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right?

[Steve Covino]

So check us out. We like to get you involved too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say.

[Rich Davis]

I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth.

[Steve Covino]

Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific.

[Rich Davis]

And if you miss any of the live show, just search Kobe no enrich, wherever you get your podcast. And of course, on social media, that's Covino and Rich.

[Danny G]

We live in a divided country.

[Rich Davis]

I am a lifelong Republican with all.

[Danny G]

Kinds of different people.

[Steve Covino]

You know, I'm a mother, I'm a grandmother.

[Danny G]

That's why we started the Middle with Jeremy Hobson. It's about bringing voices not from the extremes, but from the vast middle into the national conversation.

[Steve Covino]

Anna, I'm calling from Las Vegas.

[Danny G]

Each week we bring together an all star panel. Mark Cuban, so great to have you on the Middle.

[Rich Davis]

Thanks for having me.

[Danny G]

Jeremy, Neil Degrasse Tyson, welcome to the Middle.

[Colin Cowherd]

Thanks for having me.

[Danny G]

And hear from ordinary Americans from all over the country on the most important, important issues.

[Steve Covino]

Hi, my name is Venkat. I'm calling you from Atlanta, Georgia.

[Danny G]

And when you subscribe to the Middle, you also get an episode each week called One Thing Trump did that focuses on just one item from the avalanche of news.

[Wendy]

We should be examining what our government spends its money on and are these.

[Rich Davis]

Jobs necessary and what are we doing here? But that doesn't seem to be what we're doing in this situation.

[Danny G]

Listen to the Middle with Jeremy Hobson on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Spot]

Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley season one.

[Colin Cowherd]

I just knew him as a kid.

[Spot]

Long, silent voices from his past came.

[Rich Davis]

Forward and he was just staring at me.

[Spot]

And they had secrets of their own to share.

[Rich Davis]

Gilbert King.

[Wendy]

I'm the son of Jeremy Lindsay Scott.

[Spot]

I was no longer just telling the story. I was part of it.

[Wendy]

Every time I hear about my dad.

[Steve Covino]

Is, oh, he's a killer.

[Wendy]

He's just straight evil.

[Spot]

I was becoming the bridge between a killer and the son he'd never known.

[Wendy]

If the cops and everything would have done their job properly, my dad would have been in jail. I would have never existed.

[Spot]

I never expected to find myself in this place. Now I need to tell you how I got here.

[Wendy]

At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.

[Spot]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Steve Covino]

I'm not gonna watch Top Gun. And the more you pressure me, the less likely I'm gonna do it. Maverick. That is Maverick.

[Rich Davis]

You must be a delight to date.

[Steve Covino]

Thanks.

[Rich Davis]

Your girlfriend, luckiest woman on earth, I think.

[Steve Covino]

So Covino and Rich, Fox Sports Radio CNR show in for Colin on the Herd. Thank you guys for hanging out with us. Thanks for all your feedback. Again, wrapping up who you won't forgive. Len from Idaho said O.J. has to be the number answer. Number one answer on the board. People you'll never forgive.

[Rich Davis]

Well, if you saw the Naked Gun trailer, they allude to that because they Leslie Nielsen, the late, great Leslie Nielsen. His son, Frank Drubbin Jr. That's who Liam Neeson plays.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

And they go to Ed, Ed's son. His partner is played by Stingray from Cobra Kai.

[Steve Covino]

What's his name? Paul Walter Hauser. Paul Walter Hauser, who's also playing Chris Farley in the biopic. So that dude's everywhere.

[Rich Davis]

And then they go to OJ and there's a young black guy and he looks at the camera like, nah, like, I don't want to claim to be O.J. norberg.

[Steve Covino]

So nobody's.

[Rich Davis]

It looks great, man. So O.J. is a great answer. Thank you, Len.

[Steve Covino]

Thank you, everybody. Hit us up at Covinoenrich now. Later this hour, weekend hobnobbing what you need to watch in the world of sports and entertainment. We do it every Friday, but right now we're giving away prizes. It's game time. Let's go.

[Colin Cowherd]

Sports, media and athletes are quoted a lot.

[Steve Covino]

Stars attract other stars.

[Colin Cowherd]

Here comes the hot take quote.

[Rich Davis]

Andy Reid should step down as head coach. This is not a one game. We asked him because they lost in this game.

[Colin Cowherd]

You guess, the talking head.

[Rich Davis]

You can quote me on that.

[Colin Cowherd]

Quote me. All right. Happy Friday. Here we go. Game time. You need to tell me which blabbermouth said it. Let's meet the contestants. The man who was once suspended for making a torpedo bat in wood shop, Steve Covino.

[Rich Davis]

Ahead of the trend. Ahead of the trend.

[Colin Cowherd]

To his left, the broadcaster who proudly stated that he does not waste time on games where his team is being blown out. Rich Davis, waste of money.

[Rich Davis]

They're down by more than a grand slam. If the team can't come back with a grand slam and it's past the seventh inning, I'm checking out.

[Colin Cowherd]

And the man who is the goat of goat yoga. Spotty boy, let's do this.

[Rich Davis]

You know, just because you like yoga doesn't mean you need to wear yoga pants. You know that, right?

[Colin Cowherd]

And then over there, the herd butt for it. This guy once spent two full days mounting one flat screen. Ryan. Music.

[Steve Covino]

Is that true?

[Ryan Music]

Oh, how many centuries. Yeah, it was two days.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, my God.

[Rich Davis]

Music this is a complete reflection of our show. You told me that story last time we hung out. He just doesn't listen.

[Steve Covino]

I didn't know it was two days.

[Rich Davis]

He just doesn't listen.

[Ryan Music]

How many days does it take Aino to remember my name?

[Rich Davis]

I don't know.

[Colin Cowherd]

We're gonna. We're gonna go to the studio lines right now to see who is in the running for a stainless steel swiggy. Let's go to Florida. Ocala, Florida. What up, Tom?

[Rich Davis]

Tommy.

[Steve Covino]

Hey, guys, how are you? Hey, Tommy.

[Colin Cowherd]

And Tom told me off the air that he's a huge Gators and Falcons fan.

[Rich Davis]

Well, good luck to your Gators this weekend. Final four action, brother.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. You nervous?

[Steve Covino]

Always nervous.

[Colin Cowherd]

Because, you know, I'm a lovable loser, so I'm always nervous when my teams play.

[Steve Covino]

Remember, I did give up a 28.

[Colin Cowherd]

3 lead in the Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

That's terrible. Yeah. Falcons and here.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. Final Four tomorrow. Can't wait. Rules for quote me here. The first contestant with two correct answers is the champ. If there's a tie of two overtime quotes ready to go, your name is your buzzer, but you do have to wait until all three possible answers are read. If there's two wrong answers in a row, we move on to the next quote. Are you ready?

[Steve Covino]

Let's go.

[Colin Cowherd]

Here we go. Here's the first quote. This is one thing I think people will hold against Jokic. Because, you know, when we start talking about the best of the best, we got to knit. Nitpick. Jokic didn't have to go up against Alonzo Mourning, David Robinson, Hakeem Olajuwon, Patrick Ewing, Dikembe Mutombo, Tim Duncan. Night in, night out, I'm going up against the best of the best of the best bigs. Who said it? Quote me.

[Steve Covino]

Who?

[Colin Cowherd]

Me. A, Chris Broussard, B, Kelvin Washington or C, Rob Parker?

[Steve Covino]

Tom.

[Colin Cowherd]

Tom.

[Steve Covino]

Kelvin Washington.

[Rich Davis]

Yes.

[Colin Cowherd]

Tom. On the board immediately. And here's what that sounded like on Fox Sports Radio.

[Steve Covino]

This is one thing people I think will hold against Jokic. Because, you know, when we start talking about the best of the best, we got a nitpick. Jokic didn't have to go up against Alonzo Mourning, David Robinson, Hakeem Olajuwon, Patrick Ewing, Dikembe Mutombo, all of the Tim Duncan, night in, night out. I'm going up against the best of the best of the best bigs. You know, since there was so much back and forth about him and Shaq this week. I thought it was a Shaq quote.

[Rich Davis]

I. I thought it was not going to be Kelvin because it sounded like something like an old head would say. I thought it was Rob Parker talking about back in the day.

[Colin Cowherd]

Nicely done by Tom.

[Steve Covino]

Had to go against the other big man.

[Colin Cowherd]

We go to round two. Here's the quote. The New Orleans Pelicans thought they were going to be making a bust of Zion Williamson for the pro bouncy ball hall of Fame. Instead, he's a different kind of bust, the kind you don't want to have. And by any measurement, Zion Williamson is an absolute failure. Quote me.

[Steve Covino]

Who?

[Colin Cowherd]

Me? Was that A, Ben Maller, B, Colin Cowherd, or C, Jason Smith?

[Steve Covino]

Oh, man, Tom, Tom, Tom.

[Colin Cowherd]

Trying to go for the sweep here.

[Steve Covino]

It sounds like something Ben Maller would say.

[Rich Davis]

Dude, just like that, Tom sweeps the board.

[Colin Cowherd]

This is what Ben Maller sounded like when he was bloviating.

[Rich Davis]

The New Orleans Pelicans thought they were going to be making a bust of Zion Williamson for the pro bounceable hall of Fame. Instead, he's a different kind of a bust, the kind that you don't want to have. And by any measurement, Zion Williamson is an absolute failure.

[Steve Covino]

Wow.

[Rich Davis]

Damn. Hey, Tom.

[Colin Cowherd]

Wings. So Tom already gets a swiggy. For fun, let's do the third one.

[Rich Davis]

Danny T's like, I put the work in. And by the way, I always love the promos from Ben Maller. Who is the overnight guy? It says Ben Maller. He's the big dog with the big bite. Do you think he loves that or laughs at that?

[Steve Covino]

Ben. Ma does. Ben. Matt.

[Rich Davis]

What if I said Cole Camino? He's the big dog with the big.

[Steve Covino]

I love it.

[Colin Cowherd]

Now, Tom. Whoops. You guys, on the third one, I'll throw in. I'll throw in some koozies in his prize.

[Steve Covino]

All right, all right.

[Colin Cowherd]

Some C and R Kuzis. Here we go, the third quote. Like, at some point you go, you're 25, you know, not 19, 20, 21. Not that that's an excuse for you to show a gun on social media, but you're 25 you5've got so much ahead of you. I know it's just a gesture, but I mean, really, like, isn't there another way to get back at Buddy Heels? Like scoring dunking. Quote me. Who me? Was that A, Doug Gottlieb, B, Dan Patrick, Or C, Kendrick Perkins?

[Ryan Music]

Music.

[Colin Cowherd]

Oh, music.

[Rich Davis]

Music in on that.

[Ryan Music]

Couldn't let Tom just put us all to shame like that. Come on. I at least gotta put up a fight.

[Steve Covino]

Let's do it.

[Ryan Music]

Let's go. B, Dan Patrick.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yes.

[Rich Davis]

Boom.

[Colin Cowherd]

At least we can say our hosts didn't get swept down by the way. This is what DP sounded like doing that.

[Steve Covino]

Like at some point you go, you're 25. You know, you're not 19, 20, 21.

[Rich Davis]

Not that that's an excuse for you.

[Steve Covino]

To be able to show a gun on social media, but you're 25. You've got so much ahead of you. And I know it's just a gesture.

[Rich Davis]

But I mean, really, isn't there another.

[Steve Covino]

Way to get back at Buddy Healed? Like scoring dunking.

[Colin Cowherd]

There we go. And congratulations, Tom. We'll be mailing out a shiny CNR stainless steel swiggy to you there in Florida.

[Rich Davis]

Listen to too much sports talk radio. I was gonna say. You better be listening to us in the afternoon, brother.

[Steve Covino]

Thank you, man.

[Rich Davis]

Good luck to you, Florida this weekend. Hope you guys pull that out.

[Steve Covino]

Appreciate that.

[Rich Davis]

What do you think, by the way, about that? Are you. I'm pretty sure Colin has a take of all the number one seeds. That's how it should be. Other people are like, just lack some excitement. No Cinderella this year, no big upsets. But do we. Is it better when the teams that are there deserve to be there?

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. There's a reason we're talking about baseball the way we're talking about it. Because the Yankees and the Dodgers played in the World Series last year. You need the big teams to step up like that.

[Rich Davis]

Have you thought more about our bet? You're taking it?

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, I'll take it.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, okay. Shake on it, brother.

[Steve Covino]

Right here. I'm confident that the Yankees are going to have a better record anyway. Okay, Shake. It's called karma because Soto's a bum.

[Rich Davis]

That's right.

[Steve Covino]

Perfect. Let's go. So the bet is. And we're saying it on the herd.

[Colin Cowherd]

Mark, tape. Mark, tape.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. Quote us. It's $1,000. Whoever has the best record. Rich is rooting for his Mets. I'm rooting for my Yankees. Thousand dollars handshake, gentleman's bet. Boom. But $100 for every win. Every other win on top of that.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. So let's say The Mets win 96 games and the Yankees win 90. That's 600. In addition to the thousand Fair enough. So when The jets are 98 wins and the Yankees have 88 wins, that's an extra thousand.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. All right.

[Colin Cowherd]

So when the Dodgers repeat, you'll Both pay me $3,000.

[Steve Covino]

Hey, you know what? It's likely to happen. They haven't lost the game yet. But I gotta take that bet. I gotta do it here on the Herd. Gotta put your money where your mouth is. So let's go and let's go, Yankees. Let's do it.

[Danny G]

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[Spot]

Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley Season one.

[Wendy]

Every time I hear about my dad.

[Steve Covino]

Is, oh, he's a killer.

[Wendy]

He's just straight evil.

[Spot]

I was becoming the bridge between Jeremy Scott and the son he'd never known.

[Wendy]

At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.

[Spot]

Listen to new episodes of bone Valley Season 2, starting April 9 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.