Micah Parsons (12:06)

Game with Jerry is not the best. It's not fun, it's not recommended.

Danny Parkins (12:11)

But as for micro, he knows what.

Micah Parsons (12:13)

He brings to this table, honestly, for this team, for himself, and he should get what he deserve. And I'm not indulging in any other.

Chris Broussard (12:21)

Craziness that they got going, but I.

Danny Parkins (12:23)

Do want Micah to get paid soon and he will get paid soon. We all know how this ends. This is just noise. Last year Nick Bosa got paid and then Max Crosby got paid. And for a moment in time, oh my God, Miles Garrett was going to be traded from the Cleveland Browns. He wrote a nice letter and everything. And then Miles Garrett became the highest paid non quarterback in football. And he wants to be a Brown for life and for a while. I mean, I'm old enough to remember three weeks ago when TJ Watt was really unhappy with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh man, they were far apart. They weren't going to get it done. And then voila. It's amazing what $41 million per year to rush the quarterback and lose wild card weekend can do to a guy's mood. And all of a sudden, TJ Watt back with the Steelers. Thrilled. Micah Parsons will be a Dallas Cowboy. He will get another contract. He will top T.J. watts. 41 million per year. My guess is by a decent amount. Actually, just given the age difference, I don't think it's going to be 41.2 or 42 million. He'll probably try to get to 44, 45 million a year. 20, put some distance between him and the other pass Rushers. And I'm sure that's the sticking point in the negotiations right now. But I think we would be called a media literacy test here. I think we would all be served to actually pay attention to Jerry Jones. And I know it's a bold strategy. And CD Lamb and Dak Prescott have said they're trying to do different things, but I don't play quarterback for the Cowboys. Jerry Jones saw how this country was enamored with the Last Dance and he said, I gotta get me one of those. And he struck a deal with Netflix to produce a multi part story of the Cowboys. And it's coming soon and we'll see what America's appetite is for a long form documentary on America's team. It will not be as popular as the Last Dance because we're not in the middle of a pandemic. But they were popular in the 90s. The Bulls were popular in the 90s. I'm sure it will do quite well. But when the trailer came out, there was a little snippet from Jerry Jones that I actually was like, ah, there it is. Thank you. This is a soap opera 365 days a year. That is his business model. That is why they're not in the biggest market, but they're the most valuable franchise. They don't have the most wins or the most Super Bowls, but they're the most valuable, most talked about franchise. He believes, and frankly has been proven right, that the soap opera is what sells. He's the owner, but he's also the general manager. But they absolutely have a general manager. And Will McClay, like nobody believes that Jerry Jones is scouring Senior bowl tape, but he wants to call himself the general manager. No owner in the NFL calls into local radio every week. No other owner in the NFL does a post game press conference every week. They played it out with Dak Prescott. They played it out with CD Lam. They played it out with Micah Parsons. What does that do? Back in the day, we would say it filled column inches. Now it fills airtime because then Micah Parsons has a podcast and he weighs in. CD Lamb gets asked about it. That makes a news cycle story. The fans chant something at him. That's a news cycle story. And on and on and on. Jerry Jones is competitive. Jerry Jones wants to win. He just also wants to be the most talked about. You don't hear the Rooneys or the Maras or the McCaskeys or anyone else doing it the way that Jerry Jones does. But Jerry Jones's team is worth more money. So he probably looks at it like this might cost me a few million bucks. And that stinks for a Cowboys fan who wants to maximize the salary cap. But he's like the column inches and the airtime more than makes up for it because people are talking about the Dallas Cowboys. It's a soap opera 365 days a year. Those are his words. Not mine again. 31 teams and and a television producer, and it's been the highest rated TV show in the NFL for the last 30 years. Coming up next on the Herd, the guy who has the most to gain, I would say by far if he won a Super Bowl. He got philosophical over the weekend and I absolutely loved it. Danny Parkinson for Colin. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific.

Covino (17:28)

Hey, we're Covino and Rich, FOX Sports radio every day 5 to 7pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to.

Chris Broussard (17:36)

And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show. We never get to everything honestly, because this guy is over promising things we never have time for.

Danny Parkins (17:49)

Yeah, you blubber lips blaming me.

Covino (17:51)

Well, you know what? It's called Over Promise. You should be good at it because you've been over promising women for years.

Chris Broussard (17:55)

Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're going to be talking sports, of course, but. But we're also gonna talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time, it will continue on our after show called Over Promised.

Covino (18:09)

Well, if you don't get enough, Covino and Rich, make sure you check out Over Promised and also uncensored, by the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's gonna be the best after show podcast of all time.

Chris Broussard (18:19)

There you go. Over Promising. And remember, you could see it on YouTube, but definitely. Join us. Listen to Over Promise with Cavino and rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Danny Parkins (21:55)

Find about Colin Cowherd, who isn't here, who lets me sit in his seat. All right, well, speaking of coming at each other, I know you have a lot of practice going at Nick's list, but I feel like you really dislike my quarterback rankings. Brew, I feel I. Parsons peak par. We call it Parkins Peak on FtF. They asked me to do my top 10 here. I was like, I'll just bring it on over. It was an easy transfer. Here, I look at that and I see a perfect, indisputable top 10. You see something different.

Micah Parsons (22:27)

Yeah. Well, first of all, look, you got the number one, right.

Rich Davis (22:32)

I'll start positive.

Micah Parsons (22:33)

All right. You got the number one guy.

Colin Cowherd (22:34)

Right.

Micah Parsons (22:35)

And you can. I would put Lamar, too, but Josh Allen's fine. He's been better in the playoffs, so I'll give you that. But I have to put Lamar ahead of Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow. Some of his injuries, but hasn't been in the playoffs since 2022. He, I, I, and I love Burrow, but I've never seen a player ride so much off of one playoff victory over Patrick Mahomes. You know, he's riding off of that. So I would have to switch Lamar and Burrow. I have Burrow at 4. And, and then this is where it gets crazy. Is that the Justin Herbert that threw the four interceptions the last time we saw him in the playoff game?

Danny Parkins (23:13)

Two.

Micah Parsons (23:14)

Is that the one?

Danny Parkins (23:16)

Two of them were off this guy's hands. In fairness, two of them were off his guy's hands.

Chris Broussard (23:20)

Okay.

Danny Parkins (23:21)

Yeah.

Micah Parsons (23:21)

Okay. Still, when I look at Pro Football Reference, it still says four interceptions.

Danny Parkins (23:28)

It does.

Micah Parsons (23:29)

And so, so look, I am with you. And like, everybody loves Herbert's talent, I assume. And he was great early in his career his first few years. I assume you're saying, look, he's got a very good coach, even though he kind of took the ball out of his hands, he's going to start winning. He's going to be, you know, throw fewer picks and things like that with hardball. So you're projecting. And he does have top five talent. But right now, I can't put him there. I will put Jaden Daniels. You know, my, my MO. 5 to 12. ISH is fluid. But right now the Tide is pushing Jaden Daniels to number five. We'll see if he holds on. Jalen hurts. I got to have above Justin Herbert. Matthew Stafford, I think. Look, he's 37. We know now the end the back is bothering him. He's not going to practice this week. That's really been his problem since the super bowl win a few years ago. Injuries have lessened his impact, even kept him out of some games. So I think Stafford just might be. He feels like an old 37 and that's old enough as it is just by itself. So I think Stafford is probably on decline. I think you got Jared Goff a tad bit high, but you know the list. Main thing is Justin Herbert is too high. And I don't understand it for the life of me.

Danny Parkins (24:54)

Let's just say the trade was offered Herbert for Hertz. Who says no?

Covino (25:02)

Philly?

Danny Parkins (25:02)

No. They would not.

Micah Parsons (25:04)

Now, A.J. brown might not say no or Devontae Smith, but I think Philly says no. How you doing? The tush push with Justin Herbert.

Danny Parkins (25:14)

You're handing it to Saquon Barkley and you're throwing the ball to Devontae Smith and AJ Brown. We could get rid of the tush push.

Micah Parsons (25:23)

Look, Herbert, I love Herbert. Not as much as you.

Danny Parkins (25:27)

Thank you.

Micah Parsons (25:27)

But I do like Herbert. Two things can be true. All the talent in the world and it's tough, right? Physically tough, played through injury. But you have to be a bit taken aback and have to give pause because of the way he's played in these playoffs. He wasn't horrible in the first game when they let Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville come back. He didn't like, throw a bunch of picks, but he just didn't do anything in the second half. But he really hasn't been great in the biggest games in the playoffs, at least. So you do have to admit that.

Danny Parkins (26:01)

No. I mean, yeah. Oh, and two with a terrible collapse in one and four interceptions with the other. I cannot. I cannot argue that point there.

Micah Parsons (26:10)

Those two sentences you just said. And number fifth best quarterback in the world don't jibe.

Danny Parkins (26:17)

It's a team.

Micah Parsons (26:18)

They just don't. I'm sorry.

Danny Parkins (26:19)

It's a team game.

Micah Parsons (26:23)

That's right. It was Will Disley that threw those four interceptions. Not just. That's what Jim Harbaugh said. Right. The other team, the other players got to pick it up.

Danny Parkins (26:32)

They got to catch up. They got to catch up to get on. Just now you're seeing it. Me and Harbaugh is that next Level football thinking. I said earlier in the show, brewing 31 NFL teams and a television producer. I think Jerry Jones gave away the plot in the Netflix documentary when he said it's a soap opera 365 days a year. And when we are trying to be like, why would they handle CD Lamb this way? Why would they handle Micah Parsons this way? I feel like that four second clip in the trailer explained everything. What about you?

Micah Parsons (27:09)

You're right on the money. Look, you know, think of your favorite sports movies. I like loving basketball. Bull Durham. That's maybe before your time, but these are movies. They're sports movies, right? Yeah, but they're not really about sports. They're just in a sports setting. That's the Dallas Cowboys under Jerry Jones, at least since they won their last Super Bowl. They are a drama. They are. I've used that term to describe them. Soap opera. That's in a football setting. They're not really a football franchise. The New England Patriots, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Los Angeles Chargers, those are football franchises. The Dallas Cowboys are a soap opera, a drama. An entertainment factory like that just happens to be in a football setting. And what I would say to Jerry, because you, you put it out. I thought you spelled it out well in your last segment. That's what this thing is with Micah. He might pay Micah. He's going to make him the highest paid non quarterback ever. But he might go well above T.J. watts, $41 million per because he likes having that reputation. It will help him among other players. Right. On other teams and say, man, Jerry went way above, you know, making Micah the highest paid non qb. But I would say this to Jerry, making another dollar on the Cowboys is not going to change anything for him. But winning another super bowl would. And I really think the entertainment value, the value of the franchise, keeping the Cowboys on talk shows like this and ours and the other networks is most important to Jerry. But they already have a sky high value as the Cowboys. What would change his world would be winning another Super Bowl. And I don't think he sees it that way, unfortunately, because, you know, make. How much more money does he need and how much more valuable do they need to get? They're going to keep rising in value no matter what. So I just think he's approaching it the wrong way.

Danny Parkins (29:26)

Chris Broussard, First Things First. We'll be watching later. Thank you, sir.

Micah Parsons (29:31)

All right, man. Later.

Danny Parkins (29:32)

All right, talk to you soon. That's Chris Broussard from First Things first. Coming up. It's a shame I don't have a bet yet for the Heisman Trophy. I got a lot of futures bets already placed for football. I need a little bit more on my college football card. The Bear helps me fill that void. Plus, never too early to bet Texas and Ohio State. The Bear next I'm Danny Parkins. This the Hurt Be sure to catch.

Colin Cowherd (29:58)

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Danny Parkins (30:00)

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Rich Davis (34:07)

I mean, they've only seen a little flashes here and there of him. You haven't seen him in a full time basis. So I don't think that anybody's getting overly exciting. Obviously there's intrigue there because of the name and the athleticism and ability that you see. But let's wait until we see him, you know, as a full time starter and you know, then I think that we'll have a better idea. Obviously people have been taking notes. They have the body of work that he's shown even though it's limited. But I haven't talked to any scouts or anybody that's like overly excited about him this early.

Danny Parkins (34:43)

So a guy who people were overly excited about and I would say for good reason was Travis Hunter. And I think he's going to break the record for most snaps played in a season as a rookie. He if he just did what he did last year in college, in the pros, he would shatter it. And he did that in 13 games. The Jaguars seem to be like very committed to playing him both ways, but everyone on the outside is like, are they really going to play him both ways? How do you think this is going to go?

Rich Davis (35:09)

You know, it's going to be a real interesting experiment as we see them go out there because look, you've got to see what his effectiveness is going to be. Obviously in training camp and the practices he probably looks good. You know, he's got good conditioning. We've seen him play multiple seasons this way. But the NFL is just another level up, the physicality, the speed and everything. So I think there's going to be maybe a snap count that they have on him early on as they try to figure out what he can handle, how he's able to be effective as a wide receiver, as a defensive back. I talked to scouts who feel like he is an elite level defensive back and probably a pretty decent wide receiver. Did talk to one that thought he might be a better receiver with his ball skills than a cornerback. But he is really excited to see how they handle this and what his ability to handle the workload and play at a high level is going to be like.

Danny Parkins (36:06)

My theory on it is we are all former athletes, regular people like you and may media, we are behind in understanding the full impacts of sports science and how amazing the modern athletes are. The example I use was like back in the day, oh, running back hits 27, they're falling off a cliff. Now we've got Derek Henry at 30, approaching 2000 yard seasons like it's nothing, right? Athletes have just gotten better. We see in Green Bay, they're working out Bo Melton, trying to maybe turn him into a two way player because of some injuries that they had at corner. I feel like if Travis Hunter works, it could open the floodgates for these elite athletes and we could start seeing more guys try to do it. Or do you think I'm insane?

Rich Davis (36:49)

No, I don't think you're insane. I do think that everybody's going to be watching. I think there are kids in college and coaches in college who are going to be watching. And as you see more guys come out and more guys able to execute at an elite level, if there is a two way player, then sure there will be a ripple effect throughout the NFL and you're definitely right. Like the science behind all of this has changed. These guys have chips on their uniforms, in their pads that they can look and see how many miles per hour he's running in the first part of practice compared to the last part of practice in the first quarter of game as opposed to the fourth quarter of a game. So they're going to have all of the science. Even if he's saying, I feel good, they'll be able to tell if he's slowing down, if there's a drop off or anything like that. And so all of that science is going to go into the decision on how much of a workload they give him. And it's going to be fascinating.

Danny Parkins (37:42)

Mike Jones from the Athletic is our guest. So Trey Hendrickson reports to camp. Terry McLaurin reports to camp. They don't have new contracts yet. My theory is basically in a post levy on Bell World. It's an endangered species, like the true holdout of missing games. I know Chris Jones did it, I know Jonathan Taylor did it. But it's, it's way less now than back in the day because the money is just so insane. It's so hard for these guys to really turn it down. So I view off season contract consternation as just media filler like, oh, Trey Hendrickson's upset with his contract. Yeah, it's July, he's supposed to be, or it was May, he was supposed to be. And I think that these are inevitable that they are going to get done. What about you?

Rich Davis (38:24)

I do think they get done. It's unfortunate for the players that in the last CBA they negotiated and so the teams can find them $50,000 a day. And so that adds up. You hang out for three days and you're like, okay, that's $150 fine. And then it starts really getting a little painful and you decide to come back and we'll see more hold ins rather than hold outs. It's, you know. Yes. I think that eventually these two sides are talking in Cincinnati, the two sides are talking in Washington. They'll eventually get something done because obviously the pressure is there for these coaches to win. They need these marquee players and so these owners will drag their feet, drag their feet, but eventually everybody's going to come to the point and get it all done and all this would have been for nothing.

Danny Parkins (39:13)

What do you think about the reputation that Dallas is stacking up now about how they handle their star players contracts?

Rich Davis (39:20)

It's the Cowboy way. It's Jerry Jones and I think that he loves this because what does he love is the Cowboys being on the forefront of everybody's mind and talking about them Any press is good press for him. And so we've seen him do it again and again and again, drag his feet on paying a top level player, a guy who has proven himself to be very valuable, and then the last minute he finally winds up opening the checkbook, even though it cost him tens of thousands and, you know, millions of dollars more, rather than have taken care of the guy way earlier. And then every time somebody at the position signs a new contract, the price tag goes up. And so Micah Parsons is going to wind up surpassing TJ Watt as far as the highest paid pass rusher. It's just a matter of time.

Danny Parkins (40:11)

All right, let me devil's advocate that one though. Micah Parsons should make more money than T.J. watt. He's younger and Dak Prescott had a no tag clause and a no trade clause. So he wanted Jordan Love to sign first. He wanted to to sign for CD Lam, wanted to see what Justin Jefferson would do to set the market. Micah Parsons wants to wait for Miles Garrett and TJ Watt. Like when you have truly elite Tier one players at their position with leverage, the player probably wants to wait too for the Cowboys to get these deals done.

Rich Davis (40:50)

I'm sure there's part of them that would just like to get it out of the way, but at the same time, I think that's probably part of the reason why Michael Parsons like, hey, look, I'm coming to work. I owe this to my teammates. I want to be in the best position to be able to help us win. Because he knows, hey, eventually it's going to get done. And as like you said, more guys in my position get paid, my price tag keeps going up and Jerry's going to wind up doing what Jerry does and make me the highest paid player in the league at my position. And so, yes, it's probably annoying having it hanging over, but they know eventually it's all going to work out for them.

Danny Parkins (41:23)

Is there anything that could happen in Pittsburgh this year where we would even say that forget Hot Seat, that the seat was lukewarm for Mike Tomlin?

Rich Davis (41:34)

I think so. I think this has really the potential to be disastrously bad. You know, I mean, this Aaron Rodgers that we see right here is not the same guy that we're thinking of from Green Bay. We did see him look a little better down the stretch of the season with the jets last year. But if he and Arthur Smith don't gel just right, if the offense isn't clicking, what does Aaron Rodgers do when things aren't going well? He starts pointing fingers. He'll pull back the curtain on the ineffectiveness of the organization. People have said for a while that as great a leader as Mike Tomlin is, he has not evolved the practices of that organization and that coaching staff and the way they do things. And so if Aaron Rodgers, if things don't go well and there's finger pointing and things like that that he is known for as of late, then yeah, things will look bad and go poorly. And you know, that seat for Mike Tomlin could heat up because they basically just pushed all their chips into the middle this year. Very un Pittsburgh Steelers like off season. And if it doesn't plan out well, then, you know, then we could be asking questions.

Danny Parkins (42:45)

All right, I want to get your take on my guy, Justin Herbert. I the guy is the ultimate eye test quarterback. Four interceptions even though a couple were off his guy's hands and his interior offensive line was collapsing around him. Still bad playoff game. Oh and two in the playoffs. But I am just convinced from watching the guy play football that he's a star and he's going to do great things. Where do you come out on I test versus actual results for the team for Justin Herbert?

Rich Davis (43:13)

I agree with you that he is as talented as they come. His ceiling is very high. My question is everything around him. I do think that Harbaugh was good for him last year. I think another season with him would be good for him. The questions are just, okay, does he have enough as far as weapons around him? Do they really improve the line significantly enough? You know, they got Makai Becton, but you know, he was really good last year with Philadelphia, which is an offensive line factory and they work together so well. Is he going to be as effective in a new surroundings? You know, does Justin Herbert have the wide receivers to go to enough weapons? Because the thing is they're in this division with the Chiefs and until somebody proves they can knock off the Chiefs, you know, I will take them every time. So yes, he's super talented. He gives you everything you could ask for in a quarterback, but everything around him is the big question mark.

Danny Parkins (44:10)

The guy who has everything around him is Jalen Hurts. And Philly fans get mad at me because I say Jalen Hurts is a top 10 quarterback who benefits tremendously from having guys that are better at their jobs than he is at his. Around him he's clutch, he's a leader, he's smart. But for example, like Saquon Barkley is a better running back than Jalen Hurts as a quarterback.

Chris Broussard (44:33)

A.J.

Danny Parkins (44:33)

Brown is a better receiver than Hurts as A quarterback. Lane, Johnson, Jordan, my Lotta, Jalen, Carter, et cetera. I don't see that as a knock on Hertz. Anyone would benefit from being in that situation. And then you add, he's clutch, he's a gamer, he's a leader, he's smart. And that's what leads you to bludgeoning teams on the way to the Super Bowl. How do you evaluate Hertz individually amidst the super team that's around him?

Rich Davis (44:59)

I think he's super underrated. I mean, the dude just makes the plays that he has to make when you need them the most. He's got an accurate deep ball. He can extend plays. He's a strong, powerful runner. He's got good instincts. He doesn't force things. He just really basically is disciplined and says, okay, I'm going to take what the defense gives to me. He doesn't care what his stats look like if it means that they're winning. And he's got the best mindset that you could ask for in a quarterback. And so I don't get the, you know, the lack of love for him because he just proved this past year what he was able to do. And he just, you know, he kept doing it again and again. Yes, he's got a lot to work with. He's got a great offensive line, great weapons, you know, running back at receiver, great defense, but still he makes the big plays when they need them the most. And so I think that he is one of the top at his position.

Danny Parkins (45:56)

One of the top. So the top, like, behind the big four. You would put him right next, right behind Lamar Burrow, Allen Mahomes. Is he. He's. You said you put him right there.

Rich Davis (46:04)

I think he's got to be right there. Yeah. You know, after that, that those guys. I mean, he's got the super bowl ring, he's got the production. You know, he's.

Danny Parkins (46:13)

Again, he's got the club. Well, well, hey, he was 22nd in the league in pass attempts, and he had less than 20 passing touchdowns.

Rich Davis (46:23)

But that's not his fault that they have Saquon Barkley. I would hand it off to him, too, but when you ask him to put the ball in the air and to make the plays, he makes the plays. So, I mean, who's. Whose fault is that that he's not passing more? I mean, he could pass more, you know, A.J. brown.

Danny Parkins (46:40)

A.J.

Rich Davis (46:40)

Brown'S frustrated because they're not throwing more, but they just know that, hey, like you said, we've got an elite running back. We've Got an elite offensive line. We believe in balance, and it's working. So.

Danny Parkins (46:50)

So first four games of last year, they were 2 and 2 when he was throwing the ball 32, 33 times a game. And they're like, we're going to start running more. And again, he's really good. But they won all those playoff games without throwing more than 28 times in a game because they just bludgeon people and then play from a lead. It's. It's a. It's a super team. And it. He benefits from it. And I feel like that's an okay thing to say. He runs their system perfectly.

Rich Davis (47:13)

He does. And also, I really am waiting for the year that we can see him in a system, consecutive years, instead of changing offensive coordinators every single year, because then I think we'll really see him go to another level. Fortunately, their offensive coordinator this year has been there for a while, so hopefully he has a little more continuity. But again, the guy makes the plays when you need them. He gets the job done. I'm not complaining about him.

Danny Parkins (47:38)

Mike Jones covers the NFL for the Athletic. Thank you, sir.

Rich Davis (47:42)

All right. Have a good one. Thanks for having me.

Danny Parkins (47:44)

Absolutely. It was our pleasure. Thank you. That's. Mike Jones covers the NFL for the Athletic. Now, that's the craziest. Jalen hurts that of all of them going back to college, it's like nine offensive coordinators in nine years. That is ridiculous. And again, it's why I always lead with unbelievably smart, unbelievable leader. But coming up next, last year's quarterback class was historic. And frankly, I think there's one guy who probably should be looking around and be like, why am I not getting a little bit more love? Tell you who it is. Next, Danny Parkinson for Colin on the Hurt. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific, on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the iHeartRadio app.

Chris Broussard (48:27)

Yo, you ready?

Covino (48:28)

Friday with Kavino and Rich in for Colin on the Herd.

Chris Broussard (48:33)

I mean, am I ready?

Danny Parkins (48:36)

I stay ready.

Chris Broussard (48:37)

I've been ready since his first call, by the way. Friday, Friday, Friday. Is it too early for that?

Covino (48:45)

I've been ready since first call roll. What movie? I mean, I know.

Chris Broussard (48:50)

You know? Do you know?

Danny Parkins (48:54)

Can I just say it?

Covino (48:55)

Say it.

Chris Broussard (48:56)

Peewee's big adventure. That was Wayne Arnold who said that.

Covino (49:02)

Didn't he play a nun?

Chris Broussard (49:04)

Yeah. Jason Hervey's major line. So flashing it back already on a Friday pump for the weekend. Covino and Rich. We're on Monday through Friday, 5 to 7 on the east, 2 to 4 on the west. Just search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcasts. And we have our bonus show on fox Sports Radio's YouTube page. Over. Promised new episode. Dropped yesterday. But always a pleasure to be here. Now, every Friday on our show, we do something called Weekend Hobnobbin. So we'll do that before the end of the day. That's everything you need to watch in the world of sports and entertainment, so you know what's going on come Monday when everyone's hobnobbing at work. All right, so we'll keep you posted on that. Plus, we do something called Chipotle worker or WNBA player, and we give away prizes.

Danny Parkins (49:50)

Yeah.

Covino (49:51)

Is the woman a WNBA player or Chipotle worker? If everyone claims to know the WNBA so well, this should be easy.

Chris Broussard (49:58)

It's our way to familiarize our ourself with wnba. But at the same time, give props to Chipotle workers because they do a hell of a job.

Covino (50:07)

And who doesn't love a burrito bowl?

Chris Broussard (50:09)

Yeah, we gotta get you hyped for Naked Gun weekend and the first of the month.

Covino (50:14)

And by the way, there's a big story and a lot of chatter about. Actually quite the opposite. Cam Ward. Maybe not a lot of chatter. And is that a good thing? So we're going to get to a lot of NFL today, but before I get into what won the day yesterday, why do they hide the straws at Starbucks? Is that. Is that just out here in Los Angeles?

Chris Broussard (50:34)

The turtles? Yeah. They don't want people just taking them and dumping them into the ocean.

Covino (50:39)

I hate the whole. I feel like such an ass every time you guys got a straw. I just put them out.

Chris Broussard (50:44)

No. Yeah, they hide them behind the counter.

Covino (50:46)

Do you think if they put them out, then, like, people are gonna, like, abuse the straws?

Chris Broussard (50:50)

It's true. A lot of people wondering why you would even want a straw with your coffee.

Covino (50:54)

It's a nice coffee. What am I gonna.

Chris Broussard (50:56)

I don't. Everybody sips out of a little swirly straw, a little silly straw like you do. It's not very. It's not very manly.

Danny Parkins (51:03)

Rich also uses a straw for his.

Covino (51:05)

Alcohol at a bar.

Chris Broussard (51:06)

Yeah, so they do. They do keep them behind the counter, I think, honestly, just to conserve them and just so people don't waste them. For people like you who go to Chipotle, speaking of Chipotle, and steal all the forks and knives all the time, you have the right.

Covino (51:19)

They have good silverware. And with two burrito bowls, when two burrito bowls are $40. Then I'm stealing forks.

Chris Broussard (51:24)

That doesn't mean you should take three handfuls. So people probably take a ridiculous amount of straws. So just hand them out if and when you need them. So, anyway, I'm Steve Cavino. If you know the answer to that, let us know. The number is 8, 7, 7, 4, the herd. 8, 7, 7, 4,. That's 8, 7, 7, 484-3437. We love taking phone calls, so let's get involved. Let's stay interactive. And that's Rich Davis, who posed the question.

Covino (51:50)

And Rich, Yes.

Chris Broussard (51:52)

Before we talk about who won last night, I just want to say I hope you had. Well, not an Astros sort of night. Screw them. Hope you had a Trey Lance sort of night.

Covino (52:03)

Doesn't even matter.

Chris Broussard (52:04)

No, it does because you were dumping on him yesterday. Hope you had a trade. If we're going to talk about how he's such a bust when he goes 13 for 20, 120 yards, 2 tutties and they went 34. 7. Hope you had a Trey Lance store tonight might be the only. It might be the only time I.

Danny Parkins (52:21)

Say it all year.

Covino (52:22)

You know what? Fair point.

Chris Broussard (52:24)

So give him props.

Covino (52:25)

Props to Trey Lance and props to the people that hide straws. I honestly, I just. Is it feminine, not masculine, to sip out of a straw? Who knows? But know what I want to talk about to start the show today? In for the Herd, cnr, how baseball popping. Baseball is doing everything it should be doing.

Chris Broussard (52:45)

They're marketing their stars better. They got young kids interested again. There are a lot of young stars. That also helps. There's a lot of big, familiar names.

Covino (52:54)

Baseball'S doing, to quote Charlie sheen in the 2000s, winning, winning. Baseball should be winning on August 1st. Today we flipped the calendar and we should be talking about pennant races. We should be talking about how great baseball is right now. You know, over the last five to 10 years, I get it. Football still king. I love football. But we were a little obsessed with football to the point where it was August and we were talking about preseason antics and all this when we really should be talking about baseball. And that was baseball's fail. Now that baseball's back, it's very clear that this should be baseball time.

Chris Broussard (53:32)

There's so many reasons as to why, and we've been speculating that for a long time. But they made all the. Yeah, we always talked football because baseball was moving slow as the world was changing and moving faster. And you're scrolling on TikTok and you're so easily disinterested. Baseball was boring, but they made the right changes. They made the game quicker. That really did help. The fact that we had more than one superstar in Shohei Ohtani and Aaron Judge and Tatis and Harper and like, goes on and on and on. Now, can I tell you the fact that. The fact that we had the major market teams in the playoffs last year and it was exciting as hell. You heard it in our voices last year. The Mets, the Yankees, the Dodgers. Like, it made it that much more fun, and it set up for a really exciting season this year.

Covino (54:25)

Well, major markets, part of it. But it also proves that if you're a small market and play your cards right, you could win. The brewers have the best record in baseball.

Chris Broussard (54:36)

Yeah. When you got the Dodgers and the Yankees battling in the World Series, when you got some other cool teams in the mix in the playoffs, and it seems like there's a lot of teams still in it to win it, it makes things exciting. That's why we saw a lot of big moves. Even our guy Tim Kirkjean, who's been reporting on baseball for 150 years, said yesterday's trade deadline may have been the craziest, most exciting he's ever been a part of in his career.

Covino (55:02)

And then did he say, I'm Tim Kirchian.

Chris Broussard (55:04)

I'm Tim Kirchian, espn. So, yeah, everybody knows it. We were all on the edge of our seat, even on this show yesterday.

Covino (55:13)

Oh, my God.

Chris Broussard (55:13)

Well, who's going to get who? What moves are going to be made? Are your teams going to win this deadline? And it was exciting, man. And there wasn't really that many Giant names but, like, that were traded, but some important, impactful moves were made.

Covino (55:28)

Yeah, the moves for the teams that needed to make moves, we're going to see if they make sense. We're going to go over some of them.

Chris Broussard (55:35)

But are you saying baseball one yesterday?

Covino (55:37)

Baseball won the day. Baseball is popping. They outshine to me, your first preseason game. Look at it this way. There's Terry McLaurin news. There's, you know, Micah Parsons. Is cowboy activity going on? This story's in the NFL. But to me, the baseball trade deadline and the excitement with about what, 50, 60 games to go.

Chris Broussard (56:01)

Hey, speaking of Tim Kirkshen and ESPN, that's a bad time for them to lose their deal with the mlb.

Covino (56:07)

I don't know if that's official.

Chris Broussard (56:08)

Is that not official anymore? Well, it is popping again. And you got to invest now, buy now, because baseball's back. It's back In a big way. And Rich is absolutely right. If you go back a few years, we'd be talking football right now, without a doubt. Because people would be tired and bored of baseball. In fact, in radio, pull you behind the velvet rope, when you lead with baseball and you talk baseball, you lose most of the audience because it's sort of a boring old guy conversation. Not anymore. And that's what we lead with today. Baseball is back. Baseball's winning. Baseball won yesterday. It's August 1st and we're talking baseball. We're not ready and eager to turn the page. Are we excited about football? Of course. But are we still hanging on to see where this season goes?

Covino (56:54)

Absolutely.

Chris Broussard (56:55)

More than ever. More than we have in the past 10 plus years.

Covino (56:59)

I said it yesterday. September and October are going to be overstimulating if you're a baseball fan. And now, you know, on the heels of football coming back, you may very well be completely overstimulated with football. Starting pennant races, playoff baseball, the early part of the NFL season, the next few months are going to be pretty sweet. Know what I want to say that contributes to baseball popping and coming back?

Chris Broussard (57:27)

I think baseball cards have something to do with it, believe it or not, because these kids are going wild about it.

Covino (57:32)

So let's talk about all the little things adding up. Because sometimes it could be a relationship, it could be a job, it could be something where you're like, what do you love about it? It's like there's not one big thing, like multiple factors. Yesterday with the trade deadline, there wasn't one big star other than Suarez to the Mariners. There wasn't really like a top tier guy in my opinion. Back to the Astros, you might say a couple of the closers, Johan Duran to the Phillies. But I'm saying it wasn't like a year where like Piazza was on the.

Chris Broussard (58:05)

Move or Soto was on the move.

Covino (58:06)

Or, you know, like it wasn't one of those. No, I think we, we could add up all the little things and say all the little things together. Baseball cards. That's a really good one, Cavino. I really think embracing the celebrating instead of being all tight butt about it. Like when the Dodgers get a double and they do their silly little dance on second base. Yeah. Or when my Mets get a hit, they do that little rolling of the arms, hand up. Or all these teams, when they score a home run, they wear a funny helmet in the dugout, they take like a selfie, they do their little celebrations.

Chris Broussard (58:40)

To me, I got another one that.

Covino (58:42)

Is also a contributing factor about the.

Chris Broussard (58:45)

Hey, I know it's baseball and only 80 year old guys really love us and talk about us, but we're going to do something called City Connect. Jerseys and you know, maybe that'll help bring some excitement. People want to represent a little bit. I think that's great.

Covino (58:58)

Without a doubt.

Chris Broussard (58:59)

It's moving so fast. The Yankees changed their beard policy, their facial hair policy, so jerseys, these little things mattered. Merch. Yeah.

Covino (59:08)

Baseball cards, celebrations stood out to the weenies. Can I tell you something I saw and Colin loves to point out baseball's Poppins are on the same page with the guy we're filling in for, the legendary Colin Cowherd. I can't help but say when you go to a game, now I'm not a, I'm not a bird brain. Well, maybe a little, but I don't need to be completely entertained. But when I tell you the entrances for the closers, the walk up music, all the in stadium stuff is even at a, at another level. Like when Edwin Diaz comes in for the Mets and Timmy Trumpets is blaring. Citi Field now has a light show when Duran, who just got traded to.

Chris Broussard (59:50)

You know, maybe you got to thank the Savannah Bananas for that.

Covino (59:53)

I mean maybe seriously, add them to the list.

Chris Broussard (59:55)

They've stepped up the entertainment factor so much that I'm sure baseball said, hey, why are we shying away from family fun?

Covino (60:02)

But you remember like a year ago, who you remember a year ago, the guy that's now a Philly, Johan Duran. We talked about how his entrance for the Minnesota Twins was unbelievable. Like the stadium shuts down and those, the lights go crazy. Those type of things are, are right on the right track. So I think we nailed it here. Baseball's back and each team has stars.

Chris Broussard (60:28)

Again and big events like tomorrow, Bristol Motor Speedway. Dude, that's going to be sick.

Covino (60:35)

Did you see the overhead of what it looks like when you fit a baseball stadium on a racetrack? It looks insane.

Chris Broussard (60:41)

It's the first ever game in the state so that's extra excitement for all the kids out there.

Covino (60:49)

The Field of Dreams game.

Chris Broussard (60:51)

Feel the dreams.

Covino (60:52)

The Field of Dreams game. They do the international play once in a while now. So international stars.

Chris Broussard (60:58)

But you know what, Rich, I mentioned in passing, Savannah Bananas, I do believe that opened the door to, hey, baseball's fun and exciting for little kids and families and that could be a stepping stone to watching the big leaguers do their thing. And in related news, I don't know if you saw this yesterday, but sources say the Yankees traded Anthony Volpe to the Savannah Bananas in exchange for 10 foot 9 pitcher and DH Dakota stilts. Albatron, have you seen that?

Danny Parkins (61:28)

Yes.

Covino (61:29)

It's a good one for you guys.

Chris Broussard (61:30)

They got rid of Volpe. We got the guy on the stilts.

Covino (61:32)

I know it's gonna be. It's gonna be big time for you.

Chris Broussard (61:34)

I can't wait to see this, man. I wasn't sure if it was official, but I saw the meme, so it has to be real Cove.

Covino (61:40)

I don't want to discount the Savannah Bananas. Some love it, some roll their eyes at it. But I'm not saying it changed baseball. But you know what?

Chris Broussard (61:49)

You don't think it's a nice gateway.

Covino (61:50)

For a little kid if you don't think in stadium production crews. And there was. There's been marketing and PR boardroom meetings where it's like, hey, listen, walk with the Savannah Bananas are doing. We need to incorporate some of that stadiums. You know, they have the sausage race.

Chris Broussard (62:06)

We need fun Johnson fun.

Covino (62:07)

You know they have the sausage race in Millywalke.

Chris Broussard (62:10)

Yeah.

Covino (62:11)

Every stadium is now sort of doing their own version of stuff like that. I know they got the president's one in D.C. for the nationals, but every stadium now has some type of race. It's no longer just the fifth inning. Guess which hat the ball's under on the scoreboard.

Chris Broussard (62:27)

The great city subway race. By the way, I got one. I know you didn't think of. What Rich is doing is compiling a list to figure out why and how we've come so far with baseball in such a short period of time. Just two years ago, we would be talking about NFL, no doubt. No diggity.

Covino (62:44)

But you got to ask yourself, you and I are big baseball fans. We grew up playing and loving baseball. And then as we got older, football became king. And baseball was more of a. I wouldn't say niche sport, but more of something where like. Yeah, and I love baseball, but now baseball is popping star power. And I'm even more intrigued being that.

Chris Broussard (63:03)

I coach faster pace.

Covino (63:04)

I coach baseball now. And these kids are interested, interested.

Chris Broussard (63:08)

And again, I give baseball cards a lot of credit because they came back with the. All these special cards and all these cool unboxings you see on social media. You can thank Covid for that. Yeah, maybe. But here's one I know Rich isn't going to bring up, but that is when collectors. That is when a lot of card collectors came back. Oh, you know what, man, there's so many great cards and I'm a big fan. You remember how exciting that was just to get a great card when you were a kid. Imagine how they feel now with all the options, the food. Baseball parks have stepped up the food next level to the point where it's ridiculous. And every year they're releasing new menu items at the ballpark. When you're spending that much money to go, you want to have a good time. I think that also added to the fun. Don't we find ourselves talking about all the stadium items? How stupid is that?

Covino (63:58)

The only generic food I ever have at a ballpark is a Dodger Dog because you feel like you have to. But other than that, if I go.

Chris Broussard (64:06)

To a stadium, you got so many fun options.

Covino (64:09)

We just came back from Atlanta. They have barbecue restaurants within the stadium. They have Chick Fil A's in the stadium.

Chris Broussard (64:14)

All the stadiums are personalized to that city. Yeah, there's so many great fun and goofy options. It adds to the fun. You know, baseball lost its way. It became old and boring. It's a game, it's supposed to be fun and exciting and they're leaning more toward that.

Covino (64:28)

And you know, boss man hit us up and he said, did you guys, you, you named all that? And you didn't even mention pitch, clock, pace of play, length of game, you know, bad flips, 10th inning guy starts on second base and extra innings, they are moving the game along.

Chris Broussard (64:45)

Yeah, I like, I like it and hate it all at the same time. Because when your team has someone at second base automatically in extra innings, you're like, yes. And but when it's the other team, like, no, I hate this.

Covino (64:56)

And while we do love the added, while we do love the human element of sports, I'm telling you, the next big one is going to be those, as Danny said yesterday, the two ball strike challenges. And then if you get them right, you get the third one. Because I think even some of these umpire fights and the stare downs and all that, that's good. And the feuds, Danny, your Dodgers and Padres, the rivalry each other, that helps. Mets, Phillies.

Chris Broussard (65:28)

You know what I think helps too though? I think again, having the Yankees, Dodgers, Mets, those teams in it, yet still having big market teams competing, like Rich said, that helps. But I think it helps that even though your Dodgers won Danny G. Last year, they're not a hateable team. Shohei, Mookie, Betts, Freeman, they, these guys make that ridiculous team that you have of All Stars, not hateable. So it gets people tuned in. You want to beat the Dodgers, but you don't hate the superstars. There's so Many superstars that you could root for that aren't even on your team, that are likable, and Shohei's one of them. Well, I think that helps.

Covino (66:06)

I want to, I want to point out that right now, let's, let's, let's do the math.

Chris Broussard (66:11)

I'm a mathematician here, guys. We just came back from Atlanta. Even that derby we were at, the All Star Game, everything about it, the way it ended, in dramatic fashion. The swing off. Yeah, you know, the swing off was ridiculous. The bombs, these monster circus shots, these guys are hitting the exit velocity. When you see guys like o' Neil Cruz just teeing off, you're like, my God. You know, kids love that, man. So it's, it's back in a big way, guys. And the proof is today. That's why we bring it up. Yesterday was the trade deadline and a lot of moves were made. We'll speculate on that, but without a doubt, we'd normally be talking about the Chargers Lions game yesterday. Because you're so quick to move on.

Covino (66:55)

You're so right that. Danny. We've been here at Fox sports radio, what, four or five years now?

Danny Parkins (67:00)

Almost right about that feels like 10 working with you.

Covino (67:05)

We've been doing our show together for, like decades now. I promise you. What is it, 20, 25? Since 2010? I'd say every year until now if you told me. The preseason kicked off in the NFL and there were some, you know, stories about stars like McLaurin and Micah Parsons and Aaron Rodgers, and we were leading with baseball. This is the first, this is the only year baseball's that back in a big way. And right now, there's 50ish games left in baseball. 50ish? Most teams have about 53, 54 games left on the schedule. So with 54 games left.

Rich Davis (67:45)

Right now.

Covino (67:46)

The Mets and the Phillies are within a half a game of each other. The brewers have a one game lead on the Cubs. The Padres only trail the Dodgers by three. And they just added Mason Miller in the National League. You're looking at that. That's insane. You go to the American League if you think the Yankees are going to roll over. I hate to say it because Kavino's a Yanks guy.

Chris Broussard (68:10)

Oh, they beefed up their bullpen.

Covino (68:11)

If you think they're going to roll over and just give this division to the Blue Jays. They're three and a half games only.

Chris Broussard (68:17)

And Giancarlo Stanton's back, bro.

Covino (68:20)

The only division. Which is bunk. I apologize, Twins fans, because she sort of just sold everything yesterday. You just had a yard sale. That's the only division where the Tigers got it. And then the West. You don't think the Mariners, four games.

Chris Broussard (68:35)

They made the biggest offensive moves.

Covino (68:38)

So, yeah, there's people, there's people that say over the last 50 games, they think the Mariners might be the best team.

Chris Broussard (68:43)

Well, that's the other reason, too. You got other fans holding on longer than they've had in previous years. Way more teams have a chance deeper into the season now with the extra wild card and everything else. So, yeah, these are all the reasons. I mean, we went from the fun excitement to baseball cards to the food at the stadium, speeding up the game. That's. That's obvious, man. That definitely helped. People were against it, but they made the move, we reaped the benefits, and now we're talking about it now, dude, the next 50 games, it's going to be electric. And by the way, if you're not a fan of our show Monday through Friday, what's wrong with you? You should be. But Rich and I have a bet of who has has the best record, the Yankees or the mets. And it's $1,000 bet, which isn't going to make or break anybody. But you think I want to lose $1,000 to this guy? Until the Mets get.

Covino (69:37)

Until the Mets got cold. I was loving the bet more because the Mets are two games better than the Yanks. Now. Last week when it was like five.

Chris Broussard (69:44)

Games, but we raised the stakes. $100 for every extra game that they won by.

Covino (69:50)

Yeah.

Chris Broussard (69:51)

So, you know, every day on there include. And that's another thing, too, Rich. I think people put an action on games that also helps, you know, so many factors as to why baseball is just way more exciting in the past few years. And we.

Covino (70:06)

The proof is today, and this is no ad, but for real, I've been doing. We would do the reads for the DraftKings pick six. Every so often I'll throw ten bucks on like, oh, a Mookie home run with, you know, a Juan Soto, more than one and a half bases, and, oh, Mike Trout with a double. Like, I'll do those, you know, quick little bets. And I think there's so many layers as to why baseball's back. And I think we just named like 10 of them.

Chris Broussard (70:29)

I should point out that our afternoon drive show is 80% NFL. So for you guys to lead with baseball. It does point out that that baseball.

Danny Parkins (70:39)

Is thriving right now, but the real.

Chris Broussard (70:41)

Test is going to be when there are some real NFL games to compete.

Danny Parkins (70:45)

With because Rich, it's easy for you to brush over that hall of Fame game last night.

Chris Broussard (70:50)

Yeah.

Danny Parkins (70:51)

I'm guessing you didn't watch much of it. No, I watched. I watched a half. How much did you watch?

Covino (70:55)

I watched, like, 0.0, like, background. I watched. I watched highlights, and I was like. I looked at Trey Lance's box score, and that's it. But you know what? You're right, Danny. If it was Thursday night kickoff, that is by far what we're all watching. It just. It might be more of a reflection that baseball was struggling so much that a preseason football game over the last decade got our interest more. But not. Not right now.

Chris Broussard (71:20)

I think everything really started to shift when the postseason started to pop last year.

Covino (71:26)

It's the Wild Cards, man.

Chris Broussard (71:28)

I. Postseason was so electric last year. So many big moments. That's when it all started to come to fruition and come together. Of course, all the little changes were in place, but that playoff series, that postseason last year really set us up for all this excitement this year.

Covino (71:43)

That Padres, Dodgers, first round, the Mets making their ridiculous run. That. That Alonzo home run in the ninth inning.

Chris Broussard (71:51)

All those moments.

Covino (71:52)

Soto doing the little stare for the Yankees, then hitting a home run. Like everything about the postseason was fantastic.

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Rich Davis (74:30)

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