Julian Edelman (8:04)

As we turn the page, I think it's important to know that J. Kidd and I, we've had a vision in the culture that we want to create since we've been here. And the players that we're bringing in, we believe exemplify that. And you know, we think defense wins championships and we're bringing in one of the best two way players in the league.

Colin Cowherd (8:22)

It is a little shocking, but like.

Jason McIntyre (8:24)

In the sense we have to push forward. We can as a organization, as a.

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All right, there's three primary reasons the Lakers stole him. Number one, he's 25. He Dalton Connect is 24. This guy's barely in the league. He is just a new kid. He's 25 years old. He's already got 50 playoff games and he's so gifted offensively. He's never really been pushed because he's been so good playing in Europe forever. Number two is he finally lands with a legend in LeBron James. And I mean, let's be honest about this. LeBron is so dedicated that he has forced corky players before. Anthony Davis was soft and J.R. smith was squirrely and Kyrie Irving was high maintenance and he got him to work. And number three is the Lakers are aspirational franchise with statues everywhere in the building. And the bottom line here is I think we're going to get a more dedicated Luca. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Ah. And here we have travelers in their natural habitat enjoying guaranteed 4pm checkout at fine hotels and resorts booked through Amex Travel. And they don't even see what's coming at them. We're in.

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So and you remember you're block the best athlete some would say on the defense. Number six, Joe Tuney. He's the best pass blocking left guard in football. Again, when Kansas City went and spent that money in New England, right, and they went and bought him, everybody said whoa, that is a lot for a guard. Well, they move this guy due to injuries out to left tackle. He's elite at left tackle as well. And I do believe that Tuni and the ability to protect Mahomes. Mahomes only lost one game ugly in his life in the playoffs when he didn't get protection against Tom Brady in Tampa. I think number seven is A.J. brown. Again you sometimes forget how good Phillies wide receivers are because they're such a power run game. But he was top 10 in missed tackles. And I think his physicality is really important because I think Kansas City is the best tackling team in the league. That's just an eye test. I don't have data to back that up. 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Julian Edelman (23:04)

No, I don't remember the volume being an issue of that week because, you know, quite honestly, the Colts, the Colts defense, which wasn't that complicated, you know, that was, that was back in, at the time when they were very much like Tampa 2. And we're just going to allow our pass rushers, Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis to get after you, right? And man, we've got, we got good players in the secondary that are just going to keep it in front of them and we're just going to kind of manage the game because we know we have a high scoring offense, you know, on the other side. So I don't remember the volume being an issue necessarily as far as the volume of plays in the game plan. It was more so I think for us, like our success, we knew was number one, we need to steal a possession in this game, right. Which we did at the start of the, of the second half with that onside kick that we called called ambush. But it was, it was really more so, like, how do we create a rhythm, you know, with our offense against these guys and, and a level of patience because look, we were a big play offense too. We were used to, you know, kind of those, you know, big play shots down the field. And I think we just recognized, hey, these guys don't really give that to us. So we're going to have to run the ball effectively. We're going to hit him with the screen game to try to slow down the pass rush and then we're just going to be methodical with the passing game, which we were super efficient, the passing game. And oh, by the way, what that does is it also chews up the clock and it keeps one of the best players in the world off the field on the other side in Peyton Manning. So quite honestly, like, I see that very much like what Philadelphia's game plan should be against the Chiefs this week, which is run the ball, possess the ball, chew up the clock, wear down that defense and keep the best player in the world, Patrick Holmes, off the field on the other side.

Jason McIntyre (24:51)

You know, it's interesting because I would think a guy like you, and you mentioned Peyton Manning, both of you, very Cerebral. I would think short weeks would drive you crazy and you would love an extra day or a buy or super bowl because you could just fill your brain with more information. So to you, extra time, like, to you, was it a kid in a candy store? It's like, hey, I got more time to, like, exercise efficiency. How did you look at it?

Julian Edelman (25:19)

Well, sometimes too much time results in over analysis. Right, right. And then it's. And then it's paralysis by over analysis. Right? So, like, honestly, I. I felt like we had a great plan, which was, hey, two weeks prior to the Super Bowl. So the first week, honestly, was a lot of just good on, good competition with our team. Like, we really didn't get into a lot of the game planning for the Indianapolis Colts. Yes, we were watching film and yes, we were starting to have an idea of, you know, how we were going to attack them. But we did not install our game plan against the Colts in the week prior to the Super Bowl. We waited until we actually got to Miami, which is where we played it. And we. Because we wanted to. We wanted to have as normal a work week as possible.

Jason McIntyre (26:06)

Right?

Julian Edelman (26:07)

Like, that's the. That's the toughest thing about the super bowl is how do you make the Super Bowl a normal work week? You're in a foreign place practicing in a different facility that you have to bus to. You're in a hotel where there's all kinds of chaos going on. Like, how do you order the chaos? How do you create some normalcy in a routine? And so we did, like, good on, good competitive, man, weight room. That was like our first week, right? And then the minute we arrived in Miami, it was like, all right, here we go. Flip the switch. Game plan. Wednesday's base, Thursday's third down. Friday's red zone. Short yardage, goal line. Saturday, Hayes in the barn, man, quick walkthrough, jog through. Boom. We got it in our mind. Let's go win a football game.

Jason McIntyre (26:45)

You know, it's interesting. Brady and Hasselbeck both talked about this on the show, and this is what has always been fascinating, is that you guys watch so much film. And Hasselbeck talked about Holmgren adding something late in the week. Brady came on and said, we added. We placed that Seahawk team that had no weaknesses. We came up with three new plays the night before just because he goes, I didn't trust our red zone packages. Did Sean with you, Drew, say, listen, I found something on tape? Or did you say, you know, Sean, we got to clean something up. Anything Saturday night happen.

Julian Edelman (27:20)

Yeah, it would from time to time. And a lot of that was just, you know, Sean and my routine of I would always go back on Saturday morning, which was again our just kind of walk through day, you know, walk through the game plan the first 15 plays of the game, you know, kind of hit some red zone, third down thoughts. I would watch a couple games on Saturday morning more so just to kind of go back and just like feel the flow and the rhythm of a game and maybe how some other teams that attacked them. And again it was just, it was very relaxed, but it was. And, and, and in that moment you would just kind of be looking at it through a different lens at that point because you were kind of, you know, past what you thought was the game planning thing. But all of a sudden you would see something like just a little like, oh wow, I feel like, you know, this may be a good opportunity or off of this look may be a great opportunity to run a little stutter and go on that corner or a double movement on this linebacker with the running back or, you know, just something. And it, at that point though, it had to be like a game changing thing. Like we didn't need another play that was going to get us a 5 to 10 yard completion. We wanted to play that was like, oh no, this is a shot opportunity. This is a big play opportunity, a game winner opportunity. So yeah, we had a couple of those. In fact, we were playing Monday Night Football against The Miami Dolphins. 2013. Night before the game, we had this little H choice with Darren Sprols where he's just going to kind of run up five yards. He's got a three way go. But I'm like, man, this backer is just so aggressive like on film, time after time. And he's going to see that and he's just going to be sitting all over it. It's like, hey Sean, what if we just double move this guy like right off the bat, you know, and just like set the tone early? Sure enough, second play of the game, we run this, we put it in literally the night before and man, it works like a charm. 40 yard completion. And that's when you're kind of, that's when you're kind of looking to the sideline like, yeah, we got them.

Jason McIntyre (29:17)

You know, I read a survey, it must have been 15 years ago and they were talking about the most unique cities in the country and New Orleans was number one. They said the vibe, the food, the people, to be the Saints quarterback here for 15 years, it's not like Being a quarterback. Nothing against Seattle or Baltimore, but, I mean, what is it like? This is such a simple question, but in one of the most unique American cities, what is it like? What do you remember about being the Saints quarterback for 15 years? What, what, what sticks to you?

Julian Edelman (29:53)

Well, I think. I think the thing that sticks out most to me is that the, the community of New Orleans, they were more fans of New Orleans than they. They even were or they were first fans of New Orleans than they were fans of the Saints. Like, in other words, when you walked around town, it wasn't like, go Saints or thanks for what you do for the team. It was like, man, thanks for loving this city. So it just, it just gave you this feeling that, man, we were all in this whole effort together and like, people appreciated the fact that my wife Brittany and I lived right in the heart of the city, like right in uptown New Orleans, and that we'd be walking the dog in the park just like everybody else, but we'd be, you know, having gumbo down at, you know, the, the local spot, you know, just like everybody else. Right. Like, there was just this feeling of, man, they're just, they're just like us, you know, and they want to be just like us and they're just part of this community and part of this society. And like, that was what was so unique about, about this place.

Jason McIntyre (30:58)

Finally, where do I get one of those sweet crown royal jackets you're wearing? Can you get me one of those, Drew?

Julian Edelman (31:05)

You know what? I'm glad you asked, Colin.

Jason McIntyre (31:08)

Really, buddy?

Julian Edelman (31:09)

I got one here. I got one here, right? But man, look at this. Sat a satin starter jacket. We got NFL crown Royal. And this is incredible partnership with Crown Royal. They've been a huge benefactor to our foundation, helping us with all of our efforts here in New Orleans, helping to build affordable housing, job skills training, build healthcare facilities around, around the the state. And they're doing a ton of things here during super bowl week. Donating a lot of money to the foundation for Louisiana. They've got a pop up down in the quarter selling the jackets. All the proceeds going to the foundation. They got the Crown Royal rig in town. The people can go check out and pack bags for, for military to. To be able to send overseas. So Crown Roy is doing a ton of great stuff. They've been, what, four years the official whiskey of the NFL. So really appreciate their support of the foundation, supported New Orleans.

Jason McIntyre (31:58)

And I really appreciate that jacket, buddy. I really, you know, one for the team.

Julian Edelman (32:03)

It's a sharp, it's a Sharp jacket. It's got The Super Bowl 59 logo on the back. So have you looking clean.

Jason McIntyre (32:10)

All right, Drew, great seeing you as always, man. I really appreciate your insight there year, bud.

Julian Edelman (32:15)

Yeah, yeah. Love this year spending time with you. Thanks, Colin.

Jason McIntyre (32:18)

All right. Drew Brees, that's a great story that people came up to him and thanks for loving New Orleans and that really is. I remember reading the survey years ago and they said there's no city quite like it. And I had a friend who played in that division at Tampa for years and he said going to New Orleans, whether the Saints were good. And that was pre Drew Brees. He said it was always different. It was always a little louder. The crowd was a little more lubricated. If it was a late afternoon game, it was, it was a completely different environment. I went to an LSU game years ago when Nick Saban coached LSU and they played Oregon State and lightning like hit right next to the stadium and it was crazy weather and Oregon State almost beat Nick Saban. It was Jamarcus Russell, I think was LSU's quarterback. And I can remember, and I'm serious, I can remember smelling bourbon in the tailgate. I never experienced anything quite like an LSU tailgate. And it was a wild game. And young Nick Saban was at LSU and Oregon State for about a half. Almost pulled off the upset. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. FS1 and the iHeartRadio Apple. And a three time Super bowl champ and a one time MVP Julian Edelman, now joining us on the set, Fox NFL Sundays. I always think it's fascinating to talk to you in moments like this because this games I've had so many pros tell me there's regular season games, there's playoff games and then this is the flashlight flash ball game like is different. Go to your first series of every super bowl. Even for you. I mean we're even in the England practices were intense.

Colin Cowherd (34:01)

Yeah.

Jason McIntyre (34:02)

Is the first series different? Is there? I mean Michael Irvin said like in warm ups the first time, like couldn't feel his legs. Is it different?

Colin Cowherd (34:11)

It is very different. The lights are brighter and early in my career they still had the flashes. So I used to play on kickoff team and you remember, you see those epic shots of all the flashes from the first kickoff of the super bowl. And that first drive is, is one of those feel like we gotta get, we can't dip our toe, we gotta dive into the water type drives where anytime we had a Force block. I remember the first time going in and blocking Cam Chancellor on, like, the first play. I would always go in and try to light someone up to clear the cobwebs. Everyone's a little nervous. Everyone's thinking about stuff. It's the first play of the game. I remember I went in, lit up, tried to light up Cam Chancellor, and he felt like a rooted tree, and it was a big hit and it kind of stumbled me. But, like, after that, I was like, all right, my feet are wet. Yeah, I'm ready to go. And I do think for receivers getting the ball early, you know, after two week prep, you know, it's a four hour game. You've been through opening night, you've been through media night. There's been so many logistics you've had to cover from taking care of your friends, your family, all the distractions. Getting something early is like, all right, we're involved now. We can get going. So I, I agree. This, this, this game is different. Everyone's a little bit healthier because of the extra week off. Everyone's a lot more prepared because you have two weeks to prep for guys, and it's just a. It's a whole nother speed. There's no saving the gas. Like you save the gas a little bit here and there in the regular season because it's a long season here. When you have professional athletes that are big, fast and strong, playing relentless, it's a different game.

Jason McIntyre (35:55)

I asked Michael this about Jimmie Johnson. I'll ask you the same question with Belichick. You've often told me that Bill was so good on Saturday nights. Tom said this, just buttoning stuff up. What is the pregame speech for a Super Bowl?

Colin Cowherd (36:09)

The pregame speech for the super bowl, it changed every year, but the one that sticks out was 14. When we went 10 years without winning a Super Bowl. It was kind of like our generation of Patriots first go at it. And he went on this big speech of everyone's here for a reason. The Rob Ninkoviches that were long snappers, the Devin McCourties that weren't first round draft picks, me who was a quarterback, the Tom Brady who was getting old. Everyone was kind of like a misfit or an outcast at that time. They couldn't get over the hump. And he just reminded us like, we're all here for a reason and let's make that reason for a win. So, you know, it was, it was not nothing. Like, it wasn't like Al Pacino in any given Sunday. It was Subtle. And he would show clips and highlights of guys in college and guys that, you know, pivotal pieces of the team. The James Whites, the Shane Vereens, those guys. He would show everyone like, this is our reason why we're here. Just, you know, and it did get you fired up and you get all. Get all fiery and then you had to go to two hour walkthrough. But, you know, it was good. It was good.

Jason McIntyre (37:26)

Strangely, despite all the components, you guys are a slow first quarter super bowl team. Were the plays scripted or. And I always think Bill had such confidence in his culture and system that he wouldn't mind. It's like all in his prime. I'm going to feel this puppy out. I'm not going to unload the exotics. Why did you guys start so slowly?

Colin Cowherd (37:50)

I think it's, it's. It's a very hard game to get a rhythm in. There's longer commercials, there's more commercials. There's an anticipation by everyone because of the two weeks. I mean, and all. Everything that. How big they make this event. Like, you feel that in the first few drives. And then also I think he would always say it's a. You gotta wait for the game to declare. So, guys, there's gonna be a point in the. Either the first quarter, the second quarter where we're on our script and we're gonna have to adjust to the adjustments and the game is going to declare. I just remember him always saying that. And then. And yeah, we go in with a somewhat of a scripted, not a West Coast 25 play script, but we'd have like, certain plays that we knew we wanted to run here and there. And it was always kind of like, all right, we'll. We'll see how they're playing this play because we have a counter to this play. Okay, is the dn. Is he slooping on this thing? Is he coming out? How's he playing? How's this often? How's this coverage going? So it's a lot of feeling each other out, seeing what the game plan, what they've been working on, any wrinkles. And it's just one of those things where we driving the ball a couple times we threw, you know, we fumbled it or picked it just once again, a lot of nerves going into that first drive. Lack of rhythm because of all the lengthy timeouts and just guys just trying to feel what. What the game's going to be.

Jason McIntyre (39:16)

You. You hear a lot the critics of Chiefs fatigue and I think the ultimate compliment. I remember this with the Jordan rules and Shaq and Kobe and New England, it's like. Like. I always thought Deflategate was a joke. I just. To me, it was just nonsense. When you hear Chiefs fatigue and they're getting the calls, I do think that Buffalo game, I thought it was a first down. Didn't get it. I mean, the Tuck rule, it is what it is. There was 13 minutes left in that game with Buffalo. Make a play. But you've been in that world where you're kind of the villain. Was it inspiring? Did you care?

Colin Cowherd (39:54)

It was definitely inspiring. And if this is the. If this is the worst thing they get is that the refs call for them, like we went through a couple gates, you know, like that. That they'd get off easy. If this is. If this is the length of how much people are getting on them. But I think it's a. It's one of those things where everyone says stuff about you. It kind of. It's the biggest compliment where everyone has to come up with excuses instead of just beating you. So it's the ultimate compliment, I think.

Jason McIntyre (40:23)

I do think there's a real connectivity between you and the Patriots or you and the Chiefs. It's a star coach, star quarterback, often going into a Super bowl where people think the Seahawks or the Eagles have better players or the Niners, but you're both. You and the Chiefs are so great in situations circumstantially, situationally so strong. You won a lot of close games, and that's why it's so ironic that you lost to the Giants twice in close games. Did you feel it was an advantage having those games with Baltimore and Peyton Manning in Pittsburgh, like games that were in doubt with four minutes left? Does that play a part in a Super Bowl? Like, I've kind of been here, it.

Colin Cowherd (41:11)

Does play a part because it's a bit of experience. I remember when we were down, what, New Orleans, week four, two scores with a minute 30. We came back and won that game. Kimbrough, Tompkins on the sideline with time ending like that was on Week four. But that feeling that guys felt that you can come from behind when it's against all odds, that lasts the whole season, that's a bit of experience. So I do think that all these close games that the Chiefs have played in, that's just built to their. Their situational football. Like, whenever the game was close, we understood that our coach always talked about being a tough, mentally tough, physical team that performs under pressure in situations consistently, and that's what the Chiefs have done. If you look at A lot of their stats, they're not explosive by any means, but they're 10% higher than last year. On third down, they have like something 49, 10 play plus drives. And what's that? That's them evolving their team, knowing that they have a great defense and having these long drives and adjusting their team to winning the game. A lot of these teams, they get all infatuated with having the best running offense or the best passing offense or this, that the Chiefs just worry about getting one more point than the other team. That's where they're at in their career.

Jason McIntyre (42:35)

You know, Mahomes and Kelsey, there's a lot of times that I just think they look at each other. You clearly, especially like by the time you're getting to Atlanta and that super bowl, were there times that you did go off script where there was a Super bowl moment where Tom looked at you and it was one of those where maybe you tried it and it didn't work and you kind of just felt like, did. Does that happen in a game of this magnitude?

Colin Cowherd (42:59)

It does happen. Super Bowl 49, Seattle. It was a third down in that last drive before where we're going down to score. After I took that big hit, it was the next drive. There was a Haas Z juke, where I have a juke route in the middle of the route. And they did. They dropped a pee dropper. So there was eight guys in coverage, three Russian and the guy dropped out. And I brought my depth deeper and went around him and we ended up converting the third down. And me and Tom literally just talked about this play like it wasn't on there, but because of the time on task that we had with each other and the trust that we had with each other, like, he. He trusted my eyes in that situation and I trusted his throw in that situation.

Jason McIntyre (43:46)

I remember that play.

Colin Cowherd (43:47)

You know what I mean? So a lot of that happens through the reps and the preparation that you've had for years with guys. I mean, Travis and Patrick can finish each other's sentences because they've seen the same looks.

Drew Brees (44:01)

Football.

Colin Cowherd (44:01)

There's only six coverages. Okay, let's break it down. It's not. It's not rocket science. There's only so many things they can actually do and they've seen everything multiple times. So when they see a messed up look with a look, they can determine without even talking, hey, we know what we're doing. Because Thursday practice we hit this, remember, on the. And they don't even have to say anything. Non verbal comps.

Jason McIntyre (44:25)

What do you do on Friday before the Super Bowl? What's that? What's that practice?

Colin Cowherd (44:28)

Like Friday's fast Friday. So it's, it's a very mental fast practice. No balls on the ground, crossing the T's, dotting the I's, going over certain situations that may have gave you some trouble early that week in practice or the, the fall of the prior week of practice back at home. You go over all that, you tighten it up, you get a little lift in. It's very fast, it's very mental. And then like usually Friday night, this is like your last day to hang out and see your family. Then you're going Zero Dark Thirty, LeBron style after that. So you have your night where they probably some like welcome the families to the super bowl thing. You say hi to your family, you have a dinner potentially. And then after that tomorrow you have your picture day. And it's a big mental day walk through day. You're kind of getting your treatment in. You're trying to calm the storm before you know it's real calm. And like today is like your last day. This is your last day physically to go out and rep something. Now you could have a thousand different. Like in Seattle when we felt like we needed more man coverage plays in the red area, we had all the hay in the barn that weeks of practice or that two weeks of practice, we put in like three or four plays in the red area. Saturday night before the game, the X return where I scored and then the Danny touchdown where he had. It was the four crossers in the red area. We, we knew, we felt like we need. I don't know where we got it, but Josh and Tom, they said we need some more. I remember Tom saying, we need something else. What if they. I want a easier look. I don't want to have to process here, here, here in the red area. So we put those twos plays in and we repped it at night before. So like there's a lot of the crossing the T's.in the eyes, finishing the family right now, today, Friday, Saturday, it's zero dark thirty.

Jason McIntyre (46:15)

Did Bill give you. I mean, you guys had some, some of. You were young. You were young at one point. Did Bill give you a night on the town? Yeah, Tuesday, so you can go out.

Colin Cowherd (46:25)

And do whatever Monday night off Tuesday or. There was no, there was no curfew Monday, Tuesday, you had like a regular off day Tuesday where you're expected to kind of go in and get some treatment, watch some film, but it's not mandatory. But you're looked at differently if you don't do it, you know, so, yeah, guys would go out on a Monday. I remember going my first super bowl before I was really playing it that many times in Indy. Hanging with Cope and drinking a couple beers and just talking old war stories. That happened. We have. We had that. Yeah, we had fun. I know. I know. Everyone thinks we didn't have fun, you know. You know, it's real fun. Going to the damn parade the next day.

Jason McIntyre (47:03)

That's fun. Yeah, The. You know, it's. By the end with Tom, he was so iconic. I mean, Tom was so big.

Colin Cowherd (47:13)

Yeah.

Jason McIntyre (47:13)

I still. I was at the Atlanta Super Bowl. I don't know. To me, that is. I thought everything changed. I thought Tom, you know, there was all this ridiculous talk for years. Well, you know, the system. And then I thought, after the Atlanta super bowl, it's like we just watched the best player that's ever played football play. You, of course, had the catch. I thought everything felt different. You guys were a dynasty. It felt like Tom sort of went into the galaxy of, oh, he's above Montana. He's above Elway. Take me beyond the catch and the catch. What do you remember about. At the end of the. Because I went back, looked the highlights two nights ago. I mean, every play. Julian, in the last. Every play in the last half hour mattered.

Julian Edelman (47:59)

Yeah.

Jason McIntyre (48:00)

Was that the most intense environment ever?

Colin Cowherd (48:04)

You know, I don't think so. It was intense, but it wasn't the most because once again, like we were talking about earlier, we had that situation. We were down 10 points against Seattle in the fourth quarter before and had the biggest comeback from behind, Victory. Now, that experience helped us going forward to this one, but we did. I mean, you did feel that Tom hit a different stratosphere after we won that game because, you know, he overcame Bradshaw, Montana got to five. But I always tell the story like, before that year, we were training in la, and on the whiteboard, Tom had the. The address to the super bowl in Arizona. And I asked him, what's this? And, you know, he says, it's a Super Bowl. And I was like, man, I can't wait to get you past Joe. I want to get you past Joe. We got to catch Joe, because we were both San Francisco 49er fans. He looked at me and didn't miss a beat and said, I'm going for Jordan. I'm not going for Joe. You know? And then after that, when we won that game, I said, we're going for Jordan. It was fun.

Jason McIntyre (49:11)

It was he's got a podcast, games with names. Fox NFL kickoffs, Sundays in the fall on Fox. Three Super Bowls, one Super bowl mvp. And it's great seeing you, man. You've always been so good for us.

Colin Cowherd (49:25)

You guys are awesome. You guys, this is awesome. How fun is this?

Jason McIntyre (49:29)

Not bad.

Colin Cowherd (49:29)

New Orleans Cats.

Jason McIntyre (49:31)

Julian. Super bowl pregame coverage starts at 1pm Eastern. Quite a day on Fox. Take a break live in the Crescent City. Return after this. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, Weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific. We are ready for the gumbo of game time headlines with J. Mac. What would super bowl week be without closing out a segment? How long we've been doing this about?

Drew Brees (50:04)

I think this is year seven.

Jason McIntyre (50:05)

I think because you were doing this on the show before.

Drew Brees (50:09)

Yes.

Jason McIntyre (50:09)

You were in the chair.

Drew Brees (50:11)

Yeah.

Jason McIntyre (50:11)

So you were doing this for several years.

Drew Brees (50:13)

It was, it was crushing. It was just such a powerful segment that you're like, we got, we got it. We got to bring this on every.

Jason McIntyre (50:18)

Week, reshaping the industry much like Mahomes has done to the NFL.

Drew Brees (50:21)

Oh, please.

Jason McIntyre (50:22)

All right, tomorrow's headlines. Today, Super Bowl 59. What's going to be the headline?

Drew Brees (50:29)

All right, let's get the pick out of the way early. Colin, you know, I've been on the Eagles all season. I've been. I'm a Chiefs hater. The headline will be tush, shush, be quiet about the Chiefs 3. Pete, the Eagles. Colin, just like last year when I picked a better team. I'm going with a better team again now. It didn't quite work out last year. Niners did lead 10, nothing and then kind of collapsed a little bit. Special teams miss Q and they blow it in overtime. I don't see the Eagles doing that. And Colin, I have legit concerns about the Chiefs offense having success against this Eagles defense. I know you don't. And you look at some of these numbers from Mitchell, the rookie cornerback. I mean, hell, Terry McLaurin head to head. One catch in the NFC championship game to get the games against Puka. Puka had two catches. He can't. Mitchell is a lockdown guy. I think Patrick Mahomes is going to have to attack Darius Slay, who can make big plays. And I just, I don't see the Chiefs offense having a ton of success. I love this Eagles defense. I'm going 31 to 19. I know it's a double digit win. A little alt spread action if you're, if you're into it. I just think this is a really good Eagles team. I think the best offensive line in the league manhandles Chris Jones and company And I see that look on your face. Eagles beat the Chiefs no. 3 peak.

Jason McIntyre (51:42)

Colin, sounds like you're betting with your heart. Tomorrow's headlines today, who's going to be the MVP of Super Bowl 59?

Drew Brees (51:51)

All right, you know I love to fade narratives. The media is all over a certain player. Well, he's not that good. He's not a top five guy. The headline for MVP will be squat goals, quarterback puts bros on his back. Give me Jalen Hurts as the mvp. I know. Listen, Saquon's going to have a good game. I did bet some Saquon props, but I think Hertz is going to be the guy. And the narrative Colin around Hurts is weird. Yeah, he had one 300 yard game this season. Is he that good? He had two games over 250 yards. That's it. How good is he? But he's playing to the team's strengths. But this is where things I think will change. Spagnolo. He's going to cook up something to slow Saquon Barkley. Nobody's been able to do that this season. He's having an unbelievable year. I think Hertz can deliver. And I just look at that last super bowl against the Chiefs. Colin, he was unbelievable. You and I would agree. Best player on the field last super bowl was Jalen Hurts.

Jason McIntyre (52:40)

He was very good.

Drew Brees (52:40)

And I know he had to fumble, scoop and score, but last 13 games that he started and finished, 33 touchdowns, one turnover for Jalen Hurts. The guy is underrated, if that's possible. And I think he captures the MVP. I think you can get him at like +370 or something like that.

Jason McIntyre (52:55)

All right, so if you think it's 3119, tomorrow's headline today, what in the world is the headline for the Chiefs?

Drew Brees (53:05)

Yeah, listen, I know Kansas City Chiefs fans are all over the town. We see a lot of them in here in the background. It's going to be a tough one. The headline will be acid ref locked. Chief stomach churning. Listen, one of the big stories in the postseason has been the Kansas City Chiefs and the refs. Nobody likes that. We don't like talking about the ref. You hate it. Okay, I don't think the refs will be a huge story here. And if you look at the last two Super Bowls, Colin, Kansas City's offensive line has not been called for one holding, not one in the last two Super Bowls. But this will be. This is your weakest offensive line, I believe since that Tampa Super Bowl. And the Eagles defensive line, I believe, has a big edge. I do think Tooney's gonna have to probably move around. I don't think you can keep him a left tackle, maybe kick him back inside to double Carter and Davis. I do think we're gonna see some issues and maybe the Chiefs fans will be like, hey, where the referee? I thought we had him in the back pocket. Obviously, we're having some fun here. Go Eagles.

Jason McIntyre (54:03)

Okay, what will be the headline then for Andy Reid? Tomorrow's headlines today, if the Chiefs lose, what's going to be the headline for Andy Reid after the loss?

Drew Brees (54:15)

You know, Reid has come out and said, I'm coming back no matter what. You know, we kind of sort of believe him, right? Andy Reid. Why would he lie to us? The headline for Andy Reid, Williams be the Reed Hot Chili Peppers. And he keeps the band together. I don't think he's going anywhere. You and I agree. What is he, 66? Turning 67 here in March?

Jason McIntyre (54:34)

But he's youthful.

Drew Brees (54:35)

He's a youthful 66, if that's such a thing. And you see Belichick's doing his new thing in college football now. I don't see Reid doing that. He's. He's too good of a coach to just walk away.

Jason McIntyre (54:44)

Too creative to just sit on a rocking chair.

Drew Brees (54:46)

I mean, he's got Patrick Mahomes in his prime now. You know, there's some other players that could be moving on, but I think Reed sticks around and he's a great guy, great ambassador for the NFL. So Andy Reid will be sticking around.

Jason McIntyre (54:56)

Yeah, there are dialing up X's and O's for Mahomes. Beats crossword puzzles. Come on. Of course, if you're still having fun and being paid, well, keep doing what you're doing. All right. For a coach that. I don't get his methodology, but he wins. Tomorrow's headlines today, Nick Sirianni has to be held back on, often from his own fans. What's the headline?

Drew Brees (55:22)

He had a much maligned year. I don't know if any show beat up Sirianni the way we did, and he's had some missteps. However, the headline for Nick Sirianni will be Sorry, not Sirianni. Nick makes no apologies. And I think with a Super bowl win. Colin, we remember Andy Reid's amazing run in Philly. Andy Reid was known as the guy who could not win the big game. I looked this up. One in four in NFC championship games. Sirianni's back in the super bowl, like, come on, like disguise, maybe he's a good coach. His methodology doesn't line up with what we would do and operate. But Sirianni wins this and Colin I again, I go back to Andy Reid. Like he had great players. Donovan McNabb could not win a Super Bowl. Sirianni does it with Jalen Hurts, who is a second round pick. I think we got to start to give him his props and maybe back off the is he gonna get fired kind of deal.

Jason McIntyre (56:10)

Yeah, I mean, it's there. I've, I've found through the years you can be kind of polarized. You can be Bill Parcells confrontational. You can be a little bit more chill. Tony Dungy, you can be the offensive coach. Andy Reid, Sean Payton, Chuck Noel Belichick. Defensive coaches. I think one thing we, I've come to terms with through the years, I mean, Nick Foles won a Super bowl, so did Doug Peterson. There's a lot of different ways to win Super Bowls now, partly because of who he's dating. There's a lot of speculation around one Travis Kelce. So our final one, tomorrow's headlines. Today, what is the headline for in Super Bowl 59 for Travis Kelce?

Drew Brees (57:02)

You know, like I said earlier, Kelsey coming off his worst playoff game, I think he had two catches, wasn't a factor in the offense. And it didn't matter, they still took down the Bills. The headline for Travis Kelce will be we are never ever retiring ever. I don't see Travis Kelce going anywhere. I mean, I think he leads the league in commercials or he's up there, he's just making money. He's dating Taylor Swift. He's got a great life. And I don't want to criticize his regular season, but he kind of slept walk through it. He was not amazing. Putting up like massive.

Jason McIntyre (57:31)

Well, they didn't even play well against Houston.

Drew Brees (57:33)

He did not. Well, you should be good.

Jason McIntyre (57:35)

He was good.

Drew Brees (57:36)

He was not just amazing all season, but again, like they're now playing for Super Bowls. You heard Edelman say, hey man, I don't want to catch Montana, I want to catch Jordan. I think Travis Kelce just thinks Super Bowls. We're going to the playoffs every year. Why would I retire? And I just don't see it happening. You keep Reed, you keep Kelsey, you keep Mahomes. They got Chris Jones locked in. And then you just basically cycle through everyone else, right? You got the offensive line, the Chiefs, you know, I note some guys here at our network are very happy about it. Chiefs are built to not go anywhere for the next five years. I don't see it.

Jason McIntyre (58:06)

Well, I, you know, I, I do think so. I like Kansas City. Close. High scoring. Michael Irvin said. Low scoring. You like Philadelphia in kind of a Route 12.

Drew Brees (58:17)

A route. I mean, you could get a late touchdown to pull away and boy, they get that late touchdown. What are we wearing Monday on the show Eagles green, huh?

Jason McIntyre (58:23)

Yeah, I, I could. The only way I see Kansas City getting handled is Philadelphia is not as effective coming from behind.

Drew Brees (58:40)

Yeah.

Jason McIntyre (58:41)

So I. And remember earlier this year when Philadelphia really struggled in the first quarter, big time. It was bizarre. They couldn't score the first quarter. They've gotten over that. They're able to find their rhythm more quickly if Philadelphia scores first and makes a hold. And that's, that's where I think you get into a situation where if I have the better roster and a lead and I've kind of seized control of the tempo, I think Philadelphia, I wonder, like I will say the one thing where I would worry if I'm Philadelphia is Jalen Carter ready to go? He's been sick all week.

Drew Brees (59:18)

He has.

Jason McIntyre (59:19)

And he's an absolute disruptor. If you, if Jalen Carter's not ready to go. And the other thing that scares me about Philadelphia, really good rookie corners. Like this is a. I mean, you talk, you talk to veteran players who have been to Super Bowls and they'll tell you it's different. Like there are. You get, you get nervous in warm ups.

Drew Brees (59:38)

My home's coming after him.

Jason McIntyre (59:39)

You're talking about Mitchell played at Toledo. Guys will play at Toledo all of a sudden. Yeah, it's the biggest game in America in the last 12 months. It is a big spotlight. Do you bite on a route? Are you trying to make a play? Are you apprehensive? So I can see Andy Reid thinking, I got rookie corners. I'm going to make him think. Yeah, I'm going to slow him down. I'm going to. And here's the thing with Andy and I go back to this. Andy Reid with extra time to prepare, is 33. 7 decent. I can't remember a loss.

Drew Brees (60:10)

Not bad.

Jason McIntyre (60:10)

That is an insane. That is a Nick Saban in his prime in the SEC number.

Drew Brees (60:14)

So let me go back to the last meeting they had in the Super Bowl. The Eagles were not this good of a team back then. I think we would agree. Yeah, the Chiefs were better than they are now. Right. They had snee.

Jason McIntyre (60:24)

They weren't as good. They weren't as good defensively.

Drew Brees (60:27)

I mean, they had sneed but they.

Jason McIntyre (60:28)

Were really young, that defense. Remember the audio clip that came out where you had Chiefs players saying, we won a Super Bowl. We didn't even know the scheme. I think this is a much more mature, sophisticated defensive roster that not only knows the scheme is arguably the best situational defense in the entire league. Been a great week in New Orleans. Super Bowl 59. Thanks so much. See you next week. All right, let's talk about Amazon Prime. It's not just one thing. It's a collection of services that help you get the most out of whatever you're into. Whether it's a hobby, sport or getting things done fast. Prime's got you covered. Like my hobby for all things sports. You can order sports supplies, listen to content like this, podcast on Amazon music or watch content. You can do it all with Prime. Everybody loves the fast free same day shipping, especially as we kick off the year. But what about all the content you can listen to on Amazon music music to podcast fast shipping? What is not to love about this membership I'm in? Prime fuels your passions, makes everything easier. So whatever you're into, it's on Prime. Visit Amazon.com primenow with Amex Platinum you can really be in the Now Access.

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