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Jobs being filled in the NFL Questions in Buffalo do they have the right coach? Live in Los Angeles on a Tuesday, it's the Herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be listening, thanks for making us part of your day. Greg Olson stops by today. Kyle Van Noy, Nick Wright in one hour from now. J. Mac it's interesting. Now that they've stopped blaming the officials, Buffalo fans are now going closer inspection. Maybe Mahomes is great and our coach isn't, but I want to start with all the coaches that have been hired because I do think there are things that we learn year after year about coaching hires. Oh yeah, everything. So Pete Carroll yesterday introduced as the Raider coach. We'll get to that in a second. Here's what we know about head coaching hires. First of all, number one, I've made this mistake. Don't judge the opening press conference too harshly. Some of these young guys get to the podium without a game plan. They're nervous. Number two is organizations need different things. The Bears need creativity. The Jags have to solve Trevor Lawrence. The Raiders need an adult. The Cowboys need a lot of things. It feels like Jerry Jones just wanted a puppet. And the third thing is hiring good coordinators as your head coach is much like the NFL draft. I had dinner with an NFL GM last night and he said the draft ends up being once you get past the first round, it's a 5050 proposition. And that's why I thought Pete Carroll, Mike vrabel and Mike McCarthy were arguably the best hires. So if this morning I had to hand out a report card to all the teams, now the Saints interviewed kellen Moore, Mike McCarthy. I don't know what they're going to do, but here's the grades I would hand out to the team. So far I think most teams have done pretty well. So Chicago with Ben Johnson, I'll give it an A because he's never been a coach so I can't give him an A to an A. Plus stays in the division. This is an old school defensive minded culture and they went out and hired the young, most creative offensive guy from the same division. I think this is who they wanted. I think it's who Caleb Williams wanted. Reportedly Caleb Williams went to his driveway and screamed. When they hire him, I'll give him an A minus the Cowboys Brian Schottenheimer feels absolutely uninspiring. It's a D Friday. Late news dump is embarrassing again. The last time he was a hot coordinator was 12, 13, 14 years ago. You know, again I think the Cowboys got caught flat footed and this is what it looks like. I would say Liam Cohen for the Jaguars B again did wonders with Baker Mayfield, but Baker Mayfield also is pretty talented. Made Will Levis a little better. You know, again, not a great opening press conference. What's his vision? Listen, we know he's a smart offensive guy so it's the right side of the ball. But so is Shane Steichen in Indy and that hasn't worked great so far. I'll give it a B. Aaron Glenn jets hire another defensive coordinator don't love the staff I'm seeing put together so far. It may work. The players like him, but the players loved Antonio Pierce as an interim and a head coach for the Raiders. So what does that mean? I don't trust this organization upstairs. Aaron Glenn is fine. You know, we'll see. I think it's an actually a good roster. He's kind of tap dancing, walking on eggshells around the Aaron Rodgers thing. I can't give it better than a C. I think Mike Vrabel's an A. This to me was the best coach available on the market. He's got a winning record. He's a culture changer. Familiarity with the team. Most of these coordinators are a 5050 prop, but the guys that change cultures, the Harbaughs, the Vrabels, the Pete Carrolls, those, those guys don't really fail. They may not win a trophy, but they don't fail. I thought this was a solid A higher and I think the Raiders would Pete Carroll. A lot of people dogged him for his age. I do not worry about Pete Carroll's age And vitality. I think he looks fantastic for his age. I don't know. It just to me, they need an adult in the room. His last two years in Seattle, they had a winning record in the division with Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay. Like they were still winning football games. So here was Pete yesterday at his opening presser.

Andy Reid (18:01)

It all starts with competition. Either competing or you're not. There's one thing that I want them to understand and start the message right now. If you want to be on a great team, you need to be a great teammate.

Colin Cowherd (18:14)

So there you go. There are my grades. Vrabel, Pete Carroll, A's, Ben Johnson and A minus. I think if I was the Saints, I would go Mike McCarthy, but he sort of disappeared off the radar. Kellen Moore is interviewing for that job. We'll see how it goes. Kellen Moore feels like a B, B minus. Higher. Okay, so listen, whenever you lose to the Chiefs, it's always the ref's fault. And fan is short for fanatic. And now it's Tuesday and suddenly the articles are being more reasonable and acknowledging. Yeah, our coaches sort of got worked on big plays. So one of the articles this morning points to three different things that cost him. I agree with all three. Number one. So this is the fourth time Sean McDermott had to go to the podium and answer for losing to the Chiefs. Okay, fourth time. And each time we've got these, like, situational questions about the offense. So number one, why didn't they use James Cook in the final drive? Totally agree. Said it six times yesterday, three and a half minutes left, had a monster game. Mistake. The second thing the article says, the reliance on quarterback sneaks. I beat that puppy yesterday for three hours. Didn't like it. Hasselbeck didn't like it. Drew Brees didn't like it. Nobody liked it. But number three is an interesting one. The Bills, the article said, did not help themselves by chasing points early and trying two point conversions when they trailed 2116. That's driven me crazy for years. And I always say this. Save your special for the right moment. And the reason this one I'm going to highlight the third one. Stop chasing points. You don't go into a game with nine magical plays. Even Andy Reid will admit you got a couple. And Andy's much more creative than Joe Brady or Sean McDermott. But the play that closed the game for Kansas City was that snake route to Samaj P. Ryan. Only time he touched the ball the whole game. This was the one time. And Andy's been Doing this for years. He has been the better poker player. And great poker players know when to bluff and go all in. And whereas the Bills telegraphed their early plays and gave their two point conversion plays away, that handful of special play. Why are you showing them first half? Why are you going second quarter save, you know the game's going to be close. What are you doing? The second thing is the Bears telegraphed their quarterback sneak. Apparently they had one play in the playbook and they were going to go to one side every time in the playbook. So you were. This is the nuance of great coaching. You telegraphed your two point conversion stuff early. You showed them this is the stuff we think works against you instead of holding it like a great poker player. And both Andy Reid and Spags saved their most unique calls. Spags corner blitz and Andy, the P. Ryan route. And Drew Brees talked about that play specifically in Andy Reid yesterday. The Chiefs do that better than anybody.

Drew Brees (21:16)

In every, in every one of those situations.

Colin Cowherd (21:19)

You can tell it's so well thought out.

Drew Brees (21:20)

I mean it's, it's the Andy Reid special.

Colin Cowherd (21:22)

Like we're going to get some kind of a man's own read. Like look what the play that sealed the game at the end when they threw it to P. Ryan in the flat. They motioned two guys over, got him, reset. You see that? It's man to man. And then you run those guys across to set a natural pick on the backer and you sneak the back out.

Andy Reid (21:37)

We used to call it snake because.

Colin Cowherd (21:39)

It'S impossible to cover for that guy. And so he just deals it to P. Ron, he goes and gets 15 yards.

Drew Brees (21:44)

They win the game.

Colin Cowherd (21:47)

Touch the ball one time, they could have used that any point. They trailed at points, there was crisis moments in the game and he just kept that in his back pocket to the end. By the way, I don't think, I don't consider Doug Peterson an all time elite coach, but he knew when to call the Philly special. Doug's an offensive coach, Andy Reid's an offensive coach. I'm not anti defensive coach. I think Vrabel and Pete Carroll, I gave them my two A's. I am not anti defensive coach. But if you're trying to beat Mahomes and you have Josh Allen in your prime, you have got to be a better poker player. You have got to know when to bluff, got to know when to hold them, got to know when to fold them. And I think Andy Reid and Spags, you blame the refs once all the drama comes down and the emotion comes down now. Now we're being grownups. Now we're having the grown up conversation. Now we're not blaming zebras. Now we're looking in a mirror. Nobody solves any problems. Pointing. Never been a problem solved. Pointing. It's called the mirror. You look into it. Spags, Andy Reid, y'all sat at a table on Sunday. Those were the two best poker players. J. Mac, I know it's painful. I know this is a very painful segment for you. This gets people worked up. You got me all fired up over here. First segment, I'm like, do I go after him for the Aaron Glenn see after he was hyping Aaron Glenn last week, or do I just say, goodness, great, you're nitpicking, McDermott. You know, what is it? Tuesday morning quarterback now? Hey, he messed up here in the line. Just, just reacting to what I thought was a very strong article pointing out the three deficiencies in these moments. Remember, you get into a big fight, you get it. This is not, this is not the World Series. It's not seven games. You get into a big UFC fight, a boxing match, March Madness, NFL playoffs, everything counts because you don't get another chance. These are sudden death games and in sudden death poker hands, this isn't a weekend tournament. It's the final poker hand. I would say that's a pessimistic view. An optimistic view would be, damn, they fell behind 2110 in Arrowhead Storm back to take the lead and then they got jobbed on the Kincaid first down and then Allen fourth down. Like, I mean for them to come back and go 4 for 6 on fourth down, the touchdown pass to tie it with what, like six minutes left? Like I thought they played incredible. It was just three high leverage moments did not go. They did fumble it four times. They recovered all of them magically fumble. Luck, baby. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. You can count on T mobile to help keep you connected from big cities to small towns on America's largest 5G network. Switch the T mobile keep your phone and they'll pay it off up to 800 bucks per line via prepaid card. 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So I compared Mahomes to MJ and we all watched MJ play and he was always great. And then you'd get into these big game sevens or game sixes and it was like, I'm not even sure Michael was listening to Phil Jackson. He just went up and Mahomes averaged four rushes a game. And then this week he's got 11. So did you coach that? Did you call that or was that Mahomes just doing, hey, this Sudden death. I got to make stuff happen because he does this Andy, in games where he just. He's the Hulk, he just expands. Did you think he'd run 11 times?

Andy Reid (29:53)

I wasn't thinking 11 times, Colin. I mean, he. But we did have a couple of things in for him so he could. He could get out there and move. He enjoys doing that during the playoffs and later in the season. So not recommended early.

Colin Cowherd (30:10)

So when you do a really good job of saving your special play for the perfect moment. Now, I was thinking, I was talking to a friend the other night, it was an executive in the league, and I said, I'd love to go back and look at Andy's first three or four years as a coach. Did you. When you were young, when you had that special. That big, special play, have you developed into a great poker player? Have you always been that patient? Or is that something as a coach that developed, or. Or did you sneak it in in the second quarter, your second year coaching, because you knew you had something that was going to work? Has that developed, or was that always part of you?

Andy Reid (30:51)

Well, I had a great teacher, Mike Holmgren, so he always said, you know, keep one more bullet in that gun there so that you're ready to go and you've got it down the stretch. These games are so close, so you want to make sure you. You're able to save something. I probably wasn't as patient, though, when I was younger, but I was taught that at a young age.

Colin Cowherd (31:12)

Yeah, you guys played better against Buffalo. I thought your first drive, urgency, efficiency, you attacked. I don't know if you save your best for it, but it does feel like Buffalo brings out the best in you. When you look over that film, do you feel that?

Andy Reid (31:29)

Yeah, I would say that it's a. It's turned into a unique rivalry. I think Sean McDermott does a heck of a job up there, and that team's well coached. And so our players know that. They know they're going to get. They're going against good football team, they got good talent, and they're going to execute. They don't make a whole lot of mistakes. And so you've got to be on your A game and that, you know, we're all in this for the competition. And these players are so stinking competitive. They. I think they thrive on that.

Drew Brees (31:58)

Yeah, yeah.

Colin Cowherd (31:59)

So we all know that high school and college coaches, part of their job is to develop players, but it's also part of your job. But sometimes in the media and fans think, well, he's a Pro player. He doesn't need development. I think it's fascinating to watch Xavier Worthy. So I watched him in college and I said, when you picked him, I said, I think he's a gadget guy. I'm not sure if he's a 12 catch guy or 12 target guy. You have developed him over the season into a volume guy. Can you take me through the process of that and is he what you envisioned?

Andy Reid (32:29)

Yeah, probably that and a little bit more. I was lucky to have desean Jackson. So he and Deshaun are the same body type. And sometimes you put the little guys in a certain category, but they listen. He, he, he's done everything we've asked him to do, plus a little bit more. And that's kind of where you got to go with it. Colin, Some guys aren't willing to do the things that we've asked him to do. I think Hollywood has been a good example to him. Hollywood is not the biggest guy either, but he wants to do everything. And so he comes up through that room and has a good example there and, and has really just stepped up and gone. But you can be a great coach and, and teacher, but if the player's not willing to do the things and you know it's not going to work. So he's, he's so willing to do everything.

Colin Cowherd (33:21)

You're the best tackling team in the NFL. My buddy John Middelkoff, former scout for the Eagles, you may know John, and John always says this team tackles better than any team I can ever remember. Is that a Spags thing? Is it a, is it a reality that you still have physical practices? Not all teams that are talented tackle like you do. Where does that come from?

Andy Reid (33:41)

Yeah, I actually hired middle class and anything he says, good. The homer deal. But he, yeah, Spags is a great job. We work on it year round. So it's, he doesn't miss a beat with that. He has guys out there, they're either tackling those giant donut things or they're tackling each other. So it's, but it's, it's part of the game. I mean, you always hear that if you've played football, you've heard the coach say, this game's about blocking attack, right? So you've got it. And that's true. You got to be able to do both or you're not going to be very successful.

Colin Cowherd (34:20)

Some of your best players, Chris Jones and Travis Kelsey among them, are older players. Many, you know, Veech and you have built a really nice layering system. Excellent Young, middle age and a couple guys that are older. Let's take Travis. Kelsey, you're developing a. Noah Gray, you're developing. I had, I had theorized during the season, I said, I think they're trying to develop their receiving targets over the course of a season. They'll get the Travis. They know what they get from Travis. Do you coach Travis a little differently just because of his age, experience? You know, when the red lights on, he'll be good. Do you, do you look at him differently than other players on your team?

Andy Reid (35:00)

Yeah, I'd probably say yes, to be honest with you, because I've been around him for so much, so long, and we've had him my whole duration here and, and drafted him and so on. So I know, I kind of know where he's at physically, mentally. I know what he can do in games and, and, and so we try to utilize him. I also know what's around him, which helps him because for a while there we were banged up a little bit and guys were trying to learn and you know, he was being double teamed and that wasn't as good for him. But Travis would be a heck of a football coach. He's able to get up there and explain things and teach these young guys exactly what he sees and feels. Not that they all have that same talent, but they, he's a, he's got a good feel for the game.

Colin Cowherd (35:59)

Years ago, I asked Pete Carroll, I was sitting in his office at USC and I said, what are you proudest about, about your team? And he said, I never forget, get this. He said, you have to play nearly perfect to beat us. He goes, we play so hard. We play so hard. Now this is where I'm going to ask you not to be humble for 10 seconds. I'll never ask you this again. This is the only time if there was a room of great coaches and they were talking about Andy Reid and they said, here's Andy's best quality. With Andy's teams, what is the thing that you want to be remembered for beyond trophies, but that you're proud of and your team. And by the way, it may be players and you, but, but what matters to you beyond the winning in your legacy?

Andy Reid (36:40)

Yeah, I think teaching, I think that's an important thing. Being honest with the guys, trusting the guys. I think those are all, all things I think are important. I hope I'm, I'm doing that part of it. So I would tell you that those would probably be the things that, that I'd look for.

Colin Cowherd (37:01)

Yeah, people would call You a great teacher. So Michael Vick once told me, he said with Andy, Andy lets you be you, but he coaches around what you can do now. You've had Mahomes now for so many years. Are you coaching Patrick differently today in big games than you did like four to five years ago?

Andy Reid (37:21)

Yes, four to five years ago he didn't have the same feel he's got for the game now and wasn't as solid with all of his surroundings there and different options. So yeah, we do it different with them now. Have a lot of trust in him and what he, what he knows and what he can do at the line of scrimmage. And he's very accurate with that. So it's definitely different.

Colin Cowherd (37:51)

Has he ever talked to inner out of something on the sidelines when the cameras at CBS go on and you're now it'll be at Fox when we have the cameras on you. Has he ever talked to in or out of something late?

Andy Reid (38:03)

No, but he, he'll have an idea. But normally he just goes, just call it. You know, he just wants you to call, he wants you to call what's on your mind and, and you know he'll go run it. He doesn't get into all that. But I ask him like, what do you like here? I have no problem with that. Matt Nagy does a great job with that. So it's, we try to keep it as open as possible. And as you know, you're a quarterback, normally if the quarterback likes something, it's going to get done.

Colin Cowherd (38:34)

Yeah, the. I know you've looked at the tape of Philadelphia. It is a green wall of talent. They, they got dudes, Andy. It may be the only team you match up with all year and they have more Pro bowl kind of level players. What if when you pop that tape in all your years, what is the first thing that jumps out to you With Philadelphia?

Andy Reid (38:56)

Yeah, I tell you their skill position and their D line jumps out at you. They've got great skill. They've got a quarterback that can deal it. Their offensive line is strong. They've been banged. They were banged up a little bit, but they're strong. And then that D line and their speed on the second level, the linebacker level and the in the back end with the secondary shows up.

Colin Cowherd (39:26)

Yeah.

Andy Reid (39:27)

Do you know he's done a nice job there?

Colin Cowherd (39:29)

He has. Do you envision how games are going to go? Do you have a sense like Buffalo? If I said to you it's going to kind of look like this, like you came out attack dog. I Mean, your first drive look felt like it was kind of scripted a little bit, but I could tell you'd seen something in the coverage. You went right after it. Do you have a sense of what games look like before they happen or do they develop and sometimes you just sit back, watch it develop and call it as it goes.

Andy Reid (39:54)

Normally this time of the year, Colin, you have a pretty good idea what teams are doing. They have a pretty good idea of what you're doing. And it allows, really, it allows your guys to go out and play and play fast. And so I'm always telling the guys that every step you take in the playoffs, the games get a little faster. Well, that's why, you know, it's not just an effort thing. It's that you've mastered kind of all these different schemes that we've got in and, and you can play fast and it's, it goes that way, both sides and special teams.

Colin Cowherd (40:31)

Yeah. I did a story at essay this week and I said, I, I hope you don't retire. I mean, I cannot imagine retirement, even if you love golf, is nearly this fun. Do you ever take a breath and go, damn, this is fun. This is, this is a good time?

Andy Reid (40:50)

Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, I love doing what I'm doing. And so how many guys have an opportunity, 32 of us in the whole world and that have an opportunity to do this. And then I'm around these kids, so I'm getting older, losing my hair, no red hair left. And I go out there and I'm with a group of guys that are somewhere between 22 and 35 every day and they bring all this energy. So. And if you're limping, they're going to get out to you and make fun of you, you know, so I've got to try to stand up straight and, and go right and, and do my thing.

Colin Cowherd (41:27)

It is great to see you. You look great and I'm so. I know you gave us 10 minutes and you're busy as heck and I appreciate it, coach.

Andy Reid (41:34)

I appreciate you calling you the best man.

Colin Cowherd (41:37)

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Drew Brees (45:55)

I like the extra time a lot because it gave me extra time to do all the prep that I needed to do. And I loved kind of the, the studying. I loved the, the minutiae of the game plan. One of my best kind of memories from the Super Bowl 2014, we're playing the Legion of Boom. And it's Friday night before the Super Bowl. We've of course had like 11 or 12 days to prepare. And I come back from dinner and it's probably like 9 o'clock and I wasn't feeling great about the red area package we had. And I went in and Josh McDaniels is in the staff room. And I said, hey, we got to go through the red area. I said, it's just too hard down there. They play too much zone. And if I look to the left, Earl moves to the left. I look to the right, Earl moves to the right. I was like, we need a few easy plays where I can just stick the ball in there on a play action pass, get everyone, linebackers to step up and let me just rip something to the back of the end zone. So we install three plays on Friday night. After two weeks of preparation, all the Practice is done and one of the touchdowns is to Jojo Lafel, the first one of the game. And the second one is to Danny Amendola later in that game. And we hadn't practiced them at all for 11 days. And it was just, I like to use every minute of prep going up into those games because they're the hardest ones to win. And it's so great to get here. And both the Eagles and the Chiefs have had incredible seasons to get to this point, but it all goes for nothing if you don't win this game. And that's what makes the drama so spectacular.

Colin Cowherd (47:29)

The two or three. I mean, I've got so many memories of you in Super Bowls, but I do remember this. You guys were like a big heavyweight champ. You would feel out the first round, the first quarters, and maybe this was Belichick or you, but in the first quarters you weren't terribly dynamic. You really did let the game come to you. Was that, I always wondered, was that by design? Was this you saying let's, let's not unveil much here? Or was it just nerves? Or was it like that was Belichick's ideology. But you didn't, historically, you didn't have robust first quarters.

Drew Brees (48:02)

Yeah, they, it was not intentional. Let me say that we weren't trying to go out there and suck in the first quarter, but most of the time we did. There's, there's, there's definitely a little nerves. There's, you know, I think both teams are feeling each other out and we never really got behind too much. Atlanta, one that was kind of got away with the, got away from us there in the first half, but I think for the most part we were just, we didn't execute the plan exactly the way we wanted. And you're going up against a team that's got a lot of good players and they got a lot of juice and energies a lot in the stadium. It does take a little bit of time to settle into that game. It's, it's an interesting game to play in. It's, it's unique because, you know, most all games you start at 1:00 on a Sunday. On regular season, it's done at four. This is a six o'clock start, Eastern time. It finishes at 10pm It's a four hour game, you know, 33% longer than normal. I often thought of the super bowl as two games. There's a first half game and a second half game.

Colin Cowherd (49:06)

Yeah.

Drew Brees (49:06)

And it was really important for us as players not to go out there in pregame warmup and lose all your energy because it was so built up from these couple weeks of prep that you had. And you waste all your energy in pregame warmup knowing that you still had, you know, a four hour game ahead of you. And I think that's why a lot of the defenses really die in the second half. It's just such a long day.

Colin Cowherd (49:27)

Sure.

Drew Brees (49:28)

There's so much emotional energy that gets kind of put out and then it's really who can survive the fourth quarter of the game.

Colin Cowherd (49:36)

Yeah, the, you know, you've watched so much of these teams you had this will be your fifth Eagles game and their offensive line to me, and I think Jalen's great but the offensive line's insane. You had good offensive lines. I don't know if you had four hall of Fame offensive linemen. Have they gotten better? Do you feel like every time you watch the Eagles it was a different version or do you kind of know what you're going to get when you call their games?

Drew Brees (50:07)

I think they've been, you know, I don't. Sirianni is, has done a great job with the adversity this year and dealing with the adversity and you know, I see him hot tempered at times. I really like that attitude that he's got. There's a lot of consistency you see that week to week and I think there has been a lot of consistency over the course of the season from this team. When I think they're really unstoppable is when Jalen Hurts is playing in rhythm in the pass game because I look at that defense, the secondary has been consistent. They're been great all year. Fangio scheme, Zach Bond's been as consistent as anybody. That D line, Jalen Carter, Sweat, Jordan Davis, Milton Williams, those guys are consistent. So the entire defense is consistent. The running game's been there all year. That's consistent. A.J. brown getting open man coverage of Devontae Smith, that's consistent. Goddard getting open, that's consistent. The line blocking well, that's consistent. When they can string a consistent rhythmic passing game together, I think they're pretty unstoppable.

Colin Cowherd (51:07)

Yeah, you know, there was a moment last night and, and, and I've, I've talked about this. I think Drew Brees and you were really good at this and I think Mahomes is, and, and this is not a knock on anybody, but it's. So much of what you did as a quarterback was to avoid mayhem. It wasn't always the over the top place. It was, you Just got him out of trouble. I always say this about the great presidents. It's not always their policy. It's being ahead of a potential problem. That's what a good CEO does. And on that blitz. Yeah, always when Spags brings the corner blitz, listen, it's. I mean, nobody saw it coming. Would you. I don't want to compare you to anything, but is that hard to identify, or is that a quarterback's responsibility? Because corner blitzes, Tom, they may happen once every two weeks. It's rare. So I saw that play, and I thought, you know, Josh has kind of got to see that. Or am I being a sports guy who doesn't. Just doesn't get it?

Drew Brees (52:05)

Okay, so it's a great question. And this spoke. This speaks to a lot of things you and I have talked about over this last year. And unless a quarterback has total operational control of what he's doing, it's going to be very hard against the Spagnulo defense, because Spags is going to put so much pressure on the protections and on the offensive line and on the quarterback to sort things out after the snap, because some things look a bit unconventional. They're all on the right, and they come to the left. They're all on the left, and they come from the right. And everyone's spinning the defense at the snap of the ball. And it gets very difficult for the quarterback if you're not anticipating where the problems might be. And you may get lucky every once in a while to make a play work. But I just remember the Super Bowl. I played against Spags when I was at the Bucks late in the career, and I felt like I had studied so much film for two weeks, there was really no blitz he could use that I wasn't going to be prepared for.

Colin Cowherd (53:05)

Yeah.

Drew Brees (53:05)

And when something looked a little funky, based on my film study, I had an answer for it. And I had tried to have answers to his pressures, but that took. Took a veteran quarterback who had a great understanding of the protections, who could apply a lot of different tools to get it protected, and then I was able to go out there and play with a lot of confidence. But again, this is. You know, blitzing in the NFL now has been very effective. I don't think many quarterbacks have understandings of protections. I don't think we're allowing them to develop, and that now they're kind of learning on the fly. And it's a. It's a rough place to learn out there on the playing field against a team that has as many talented players as The Chiefs.

Colin Cowherd (53:45)

Yeah. You know, it's funny. I think this, the story of this game is Reed and Mahomes and Spags against the green wall of talent. And Philadelphia is a little like that Seahawk team you faced. I remember that because I'm from the Pacific Northwest and everybody thought I was a Patriot homer and a Brady Homer. My entire time, I've always been like Brady Homer guy, which is not a bad guy to be a homer for. And I said, I gotta be honest, I don't know if they can beat Seattle. Like, I don't think when you go and Mahomes is going to face a Philadelphia team, Tom, they may have nine hall of Famers. I mean, Jalen Carter looks like. And that Seahawk team was insane. Go back, go back to that game. Do you remember? Did you ever privately say to yourself, I don't know if we have the dudes for that. I mean, they are. Did you ever. You wouldn't say it publicly, but what was your mindset? Like Mahomes this week when he watches film and goes, they don't have a hole, they don't have a weakness. How did you think about Seattle?

Drew Brees (54:43)

Yeah, well, that's a good. That's a great example. That defense was stacked from the pass rush to the backers to the secondary, to the scheme. And not only that, offensively they had, you know, Marshawn, a young Russell, playing great, dynamic guys in the past game and they were. They. It took all of us to, to win. And I think when you. And when I look at this game, if you're going to beat the Chiefs, it has to be the ultimate complimentary game because you could score to take the lead with 45 seconds left in the game and give the ball back back to Patrick in that offense. And the whole world believes that Patrick, including himself and including the defense he's going against that he's going to drive right down the field and score and take the lead again. So it's like how Buffalo beat him in the regular season. Buffalo was aggressive even though they were up two points.

Colin Cowherd (55:42)

Yeah.

Drew Brees (55:43)

To, you know, take the ball and go for on that, whatever fourth and two and. And Josh made a great play and scrambled in for the touchdown. But it was almost like you got to get up two scores in the end of the game to feel like there's any relief because Patrick has an amazing ability to perform his best in the biggest moments. And there's a lot of fear that's in the other opponents late in the game and that's a good feeling to have if you're the opposing quarterback.

Colin Cowherd (56:09)

Oh, I know. And you, you Tiger. I always said this, Mahomes, you Tiger. When you could hear the gallery cheering and Tiger was in a different foursome and you knew he just hit a great shot. It got completely in your head, as you knew. Oh, he just, he just, he just hit a birdie. And I think there's part of that is that you do get so. I mean, you faced Mahomes in a Super bowl, if I recall, it was a pretty good game for you. Did you go into that game thinking, guys, we got to score blank? I mean, you got in everybody's else. You spent a career getting in everybody else's head. Were you aware of Mahomes and was there discussion that week on fellas, we can't even give him 13 seconds here, that kind of thing.

Drew Brees (56:50)

So, yeah, and we played them in 2018 in the AFC Championship game. They were a high flying offense, Tyreek. And we played a great kind of first half of football in Kansas City. And they come storming back like in the second half and take the lead. It was almost like it evaporated.

Colin Cowherd (57:10)

Yep.

Drew Brees (57:10)

Now that was a very different offense than they have now. When we beat them in the, in the Super Bowl a few years ago, three years ago now, we played a great complimentary game. We played really well on offense, defense played the best game they had played all season. You know, they were struggling in pass protection. I thought our defensive line's ability to get after him and all the blitz schemes that Coach Bowles came up with were really exceptional. But to me, it took a great team effort and that's the only way you're going to beat a great Chiefs team. Now the Eagles have the team to do it. I mean, that's why I'm so excited about calling this game, because it's to me, the two teams that have been consistently great all season long that are in this game, which is exactly how it should be. And the outcome of this game is going to be determined by a few plays and no one knows which plays they're going to. Those are going to be. That's why you got to be on it from the moment that you walk into the stadium. This is a, this is a great matchup for a lot of reasons. There's a lot of stars, there's champions, there's coaches, there's tremendous scheme and then there's tremendous players that have played well under pressure. And it all kind of culminates in this great performance, you know, played out in front of the whole world and all these players that get to be involved in it. This is a highlight of their life, and it's going to be a highlight of my life being there to call the game.

Colin Cowherd (58:37)

I gotta. I want to talk about this, because when you and Belichick were in the middle of your dynasty, he hard coaches you. He calls you out. He's rough. That's part of the culture. But since you've gone your separate ways. Oh, he's like a soft serve vanilla ice cream. He's a cream puff now. All he does is he's a teddy bear. And he said yesterday, he's like, you know what? Just call the Lombardi trophy the Brady trophy. I remember a piece of video when he gave you the game ball. It was near your end in New England, and we made fun of it on the air. I said, that was so hard for Bill. I said, he was so uncomfortable. But I kind of got it, Tom. I understood it. It was the culture. It's the reality. It's like sometimes you have to be a tough parent when you're a dad. Right. And it pains you is when you look at Belichick and you now. Is there a warmth now that maybe wasn't possible when you're in the middle of a dynasty?

Drew Brees (59:35)

Well, there's. There's an intensity to our jobs, naturally, that. I mean, look, we always had a great relationship. We still do. And I know there was a lot of things later in my career that people would say or to tr. To try to create division. I think there was always a great respect for each other and. And I was never. I always saw him as someone that I was trying to please out there as.

Colin Cowherd (60:00)

Yeah.

Drew Brees (60:01)

As my coach. And. And I wanted to be the best I could be for the team. And he was always trying to deliver for. For our team in the role that he was in. And were there times where we didn't see everything eye to eye? Yeah, but I mean, that's 20 years of a relationship. And I said this, I think, in one of the documentaries. Like, I'm not characterizing our relationship based on, you know, a few moments that weren't perfect for either of us. I mean, we had as great of a relationship as you could have over a long period of time with tremendous amount of success. And there's no coach I would have rather played for than him. He taught me so much. And you're right. I think the role of that coach is very much like a parent. You know, if you're not performing well and your grades are Below standard. You got to tell your kids that. And if they're. If they're putting forth the effort, you got to tell them that, too. And you got to teach them and you got to develop them, and you got to be there. And there's a sophistication to being a parent, and a good parent at that, expecting that. A lot of these young kids today, they don't know what the right ways to do things are. And you know what? Sometimes to have a little bit of fear in people is a good thing.

Colin Cowherd (61:11)

Yeah.

Drew Brees (61:11)

People should have to wake up and go, oh, God, I got it. I got to do a good job today or else. And I think that's very motivating. I think we're in a culture now where everyone's. Hopefully it can be a little more balanced that, you know, to be rewarded for bad behavior, to be rewarded for being selfish, to be rewarded for thinking about yourself as an individual in a team sport. Like, I loved playing against those guys. I never wanted to play with those guys. You work too hard for too long to think about yourself in situations in team sports. And. And I think the culture that I was a part of in New England embraced the team first attitude. And what are the rewards of that? Well, championships were won. But more importantly than that, I have relationships with my teammates that go way far above and beyond what they ever were on the football field. I look at the best experiences I've had in my life, and they're with these men and women and probably way more men in a football locker room. But the coaches that contributed to my life taught me in a very significant way that allowed me to be the best I could be. And that's what team sports are about. That's what shared experience is about. That's what relationships are about. That's what ultimately the meaning of life is about. And we form that bond under an intense. And the intensity about what we were trying to do, and we got to do something we love to do, which was play football.

Colin Cowherd (62:48)

Yeah.

Drew Brees (62:49)

So I have looked back on those moments as the best moments in my life outside of being a parent, as the things that have shaped me into who I am today. And if I do anything in football and I'm going to be involved in football for a long time, it's going to be to give back in the same way. And there's no. You know, I am who I am at this point. I'm going to do things a similar way. I always want to contribute to other people's goals and to help them achieve what they want to accomplish.

Colin Cowherd (63:16)

Yeah. So Tom's going to be with me next Friday in New Orleans, a city that it's hard to go to bed. It's hard to go to bed early in New Orleans. I'll somehow make it. You don't have the responsibility, Tom. You can have, you know, you can go out and have a couple extra oysters in New Orleans now. Good. First time you can ever.

Drew Brees (63:33)

Hey, no. No Aaron. Yeah, no Aaron. Donald trying to hunt me down. This preparation's way easier. No lesion of boom. I was getting. I could be looking at where the best beignets in New Orleans are. What a hurricane is be down on Bourbon street with you. But it'd be quite a different super bowl prep this time around than the last time.

Colin Cowherd (63:50)

I love seeing you again, my man. We'll see you next Friday, Tom.

Drew Brees (63:54)

Thanks, Colin. Good to see you, man.

Colin Cowherd (63:55)

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Drew Brees (64:37)

Psoriasis can be challenging.

Colin Cowherd (64:38)

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