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The Herd with Colin Cowherd – Best of the Week

Episode Date: June 6, 2026
Host: Colin Cowherd
Special Guests: Les Snead (Rams GM), Andy Reid (Chiefs Head Coach)

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Episode Overview

This episode of “The Herd” provides highlights from the week, focusing on top stories in the NBA playoffs, NFL trades, and key interviews with Les Snead and Andy Reid. Colin revisits his “Where Colin Was Right / Wrong” takes, analyzes blockbuster moves like the Rams acquiring Myles Garrett, ranks NBA Finals players, and offers insights into the evolving landscape of sports leadership and player development.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

NBA Playoffs: Where Colin Was Right/Wrong

Timestamps: [03:05] – [09:56]

• Spurs & Wemby Prediction

  • Colin reviews his prediction that the Spurs would reach the Finals with Victor Wembanyama as MVP, praising SGA’s full-court impact.
  • Quote: “I had Wemby as the most valuable player. I think he affects every part of your basketball team.” (03:46)

• NBA Anti-Tanking Measure Critique

  • Colin criticizes the NBA’s new anti-tanking rule, insisting load management is a larger, unresolved problem.
  • Quote: “I think load management’s been an issue for a decade and they won’t address it. That I don’t get.” (04:24)

• Parity in NBA Champions

  • Colin reflects on eight consecutive seasons with new NBA champions, suggesting elite team-building is harder but not necessarily bad for the league.
  • Quote: “I think this is the new NBA. Although I do think Wemby and the Spurs could break the current trajectory.” (05:12)

• Knicks & Celtics Analysis

  • Admits he underestimated the Knicks’ defensive roster and the effectiveness of recent staff tweaks.
  • Quote: “They have all worked. And in fairness they have a good roster... I was wrong on the Knicks.” (05:51)

• Thunder & Holmgren Evaluation

  • Shares skepticism about Chet Holmgren’s consistency and durability as a top-10 NBA player.
  • Quote: “If the Thunder made a big move to go after Giannis, would you be shocked if they moved off Chet Holmgren?” (06:32)

• Lakers’ Priorities

  • States Austin Reaves, not LeBron, is a Lakers’ greater priority for team continuity.
  • Quote: “He absolutely is more important now than LeBron. And I think he’s also a player more willing to take a team friendly deal.” (07:09)

• MLB: Bregman’s Struggles with the Cubs

  • Notes Bregman’s disappointing start and the Cubs' issues scoring in critical situations.
  • Quote: “I thought Bregman was going to be a difference maker. It so far has not worked.” (07:55)

• Shohei Ohtani vs. Babe Ruth

  • Calls Ohtani a greater, more versatile talent than Ruth.
  • Quote: “Ohtani right now appears to be the best pitcher in baseball... also the most dangerous power stick in baseball. Babe was never consistently that.” (08:19)

• College Football Playoff Expansion

  • Supports moving to a 24-team format, criticizing SEC holdouts.
  • Quote: “A 24 teamer allows more people under the tent for a longer period of time and only a handful of dissenters remain from one conference. The SEC.” (09:22)

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NFL: Rams, Browns & the Myles Garrett Trade

Timestamps: [13:47] – [19:59]

• Rams Acquire Myles Garrett

  • Colin breaks down the Rams’ acquisition, attributing the motivation to: keeping Garrett from rivals, targeting a home Super Bowl appearance (in LA), and maximizing competitive windows with Stafford and McVay.
  • Quote: “Part of this move to get Miles Garrett is to keep him away from Philadelphia… The Rams know there’s only a couple of teams that can even match up with them physically.” (13:47–15:02)
  • Vegas Odds Shift: “The Rams were plus 650 before the Garrett trade to win the Super Bowl. So they’re favored. I bet you it moves, man.” (17:54)

• Colin on NFL Roster-Building

  • Expresses his belief in paying big money for elite, rare defensive talents only, naming Garrett as prime example.
  • Quote: “Miles Garrett is one of a handful of players. I’d pay Max Crosby, I’d pay Miles Garrett, I would pay Anderson at Houston.” (18:40)

• Impact on the NFC

  • Notes the ripple effect on teams like the 49ers and Seahawks, stressing how the move alters conference balance.
  • Quote: “If I’m Kyle Shanahan, I just lock myself in my office and cry... after they acquired the best edge rusher since Lawrence Taylor.” (19:35)

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Interview: Les Snead, LA Rams GM

Timestamps: [23:28] – [31:24]

• Trade Process for Myles Garrett

  • Les Snead reveals the transaction’s timeline: initial “no” from Cleveland, insistence on including Jared Verse, persistent follow-up over several weeks.
  • Quotes:
    • “We kept knocking, we kept knocking, we kept knocking and... we were able to finally get something done over the course of about a five to six week process.” (24:18)
    • “Jared’s been a big part of who we are, who we’ve become... that was a no for us... But as it got closer to June 1st... we had to make that difficult choice.” (25:50)

• Ownership Involvement & LA Super Bowl Motivation

  • Snead acknowledges Stan Kroenke’s flexibility and ambition with major moves, noting the extra allure of a home Super Bowl.
  • Quote: “Having Stan, having his family as ownership, they’ve always allowed us to be flexible, be a little bit out of the box... having the Super Bowl in SoFi is a nice coincidence.” (27:03)

• Aaron Donald Retirement Rumors

  • Snead addresses speculation about Donald’s potential return, admitting the new move could tempt him.
  • Quote: “The excitement around the Miles Garrett trade... I’m thinking he’s tempted. He’s really tempted for the first time.” (29:11)

• Review of Ty Simpson Draft Pick

  • Snead defends the pick, mentioning Simpson’s early flashes even in complex offensive sets.
  • Quote: “You’ve seen some of those Ty Simpson moments, some of the passes that he made... for a rookie, because this is not an easy ecosystem.” (30:32)

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NBA Finals Players Rankings

Timestamps: [31:36] – [37:02]

• Colin’s Top 10 Finals Players
  • 1. Wemby: “Changes the calculus on the floor like nobody else... leads the league in corner threes.”
  • 2. Jalen Brunson: “NBA’s best plus 226 with him... the soul, the heartbeat.”
  • 3. OG Anunoby: “Long, physical... his dexterity, his length, his physicality will be huge.”
  • 4. Stefan Castle: “Leads all players in assists... hyper aggressive, physical.”
  • 5. Karl-Anthony Towns: “One of the great jump shooting bigs... pulling Wemby away from the iron.”
  • 6. Dylan Harper: “Unbelievable... youngest player 20 years old all time to have a 20/10 game in a conference final.”
  • 7. Mikal Bridges: “Three-and-D guy... logs a lot of minutes.”
  • 8. De’Aaron Fox: “Clutch player... maturity and ability.”
  • 9. Josh Hart: “Deflections, hustle plays... more of a defensive guy but hitting open shots.”
  • 10. Devin Vassell: “Can guard opponents’ best... trust them to take big shots in big moments.”

No direct quotes in this section, but summarization of opinions.

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Interview: Andy Reid, Kansas City Chiefs Head Coach

Timestamps: [37:11] – [45:56]

• On Staying Fresh After Decades of Coaching

  • Reid shares how working with young players reenergizes him.
  • Quote: “They all stay the same age, Colin. We get older. So they’re full energy. They bring out the best in you every day.” (38:14)

• On Travis Kelce’s Motivation

  • Explains Kelce’s motivation isn’t money or fame, but competitive spirit and wanting a different end to his career.
  • Quote: “He wants to play. That’s what he wants to do... and not end on what we did last year.” (39:10)

• On Mahomes’ Injury Recovery

  • Discusses Mahomes’ intense rehab, trusting medical advice, and managing his preseason workload.
  • Quote: “He’s been relentless with that… It’s crazy how much time he has spent on this thing... I can’t guarantee that he’s going to be playing on the first game.” (41:21)

• Mahomes’ Down-to-Earth Personality

  • Attributes Mahomes' steadiness to his upbringing and time spent around pro athletes (his father is ex-MLB).
  • Quote: “He grew up in a locker room… they raised him right and he handles it the right way.” (42:43)

• On Running Back Kenneth Walker

  • Expresses admiration for Walker’s style and their approach to managing his workload.
  • Quote: “He’s 100 miles an hour every play... he is a bruiser, man... he’s going to get a few carries, I'd say, during the season.” (45:10)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Colin on NFL's Big Moves:
  “If I was a GM… my dream job is to be a GM in the NFL. Pay big money, infrequently and almost always pay it for offensive players. And I've said… Miles Garrett is one of a handful of players. I'd pay.” (18:30)

• Snead on Difficult Decisions:
  “As it got closer to June 1st... we had to make that difficult choice, which was very, very difficult for us.” (25:50)

• Reid on Coaching Longevity:
  “I love doing what I’m doing. I mean, you’re one out of 32 guys in the whole world… and the more you appreciate that as you get older.” (38:14)

• Colin Describing Wemby:
  “He changes the calculus on the floor like nobody else.” (31:39)

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Final Thoughts

This “Best of the Week” episode is filled with high-level sports analysis, inside stories on recent NFL trades, and reflections on coaching, leadership, and player development. Colin’s forthright style, coupled with revealing interviews from sports decision-makers like Les Snead and Andy Reid, makes for an episode packed with context for the upcoming NBA Finals, NFL season, and the ever-shifting dynamic of modern professional sports.

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Transcript

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[Colin Cowherd]

I hate to say it, but I

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[Colin Cowherd]

It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people. If we got clear facts, maybe we can calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting.

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Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there.

[Colin Cowherd]

NBC News Reporting for America. Thanks for listening to the Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the [e-mail] or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party started.

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[Colin Cowherd]

Welcome in our number two. We're live. I'm in Chicago. It's the herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Ten days from today, the World cup starts. Alexi Lawless in five minutes. It's his birthday today, the hall of Famer. And I'm here to tell you yesterday against Senegal, that was real. Senegal is a top 20 world team. 3 to 2. Pulisica goal and assist felt real. All right, I'm back. It is Monday. It's our number two. Where Colin was right. Where Colin was wrong.

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Where Colin was right.

[Colin Cowherd]

Well, six weeks ago with Rachel Nichols, we laid out our playoff predictions. I had the spurs getting to the finals. I didn't know midway through that series against okc, but I had Wemby as the most valuable player. I didn't get SGA as the most valuable player. I think he affects every part of your basketball team. They have an incredible collection of lottery picks. And the truth is Chad Holmgren is a good player except everybody not named Wemby. So I was right

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where Colin was wrong.

[Colin Cowherd]

The NBA just passed a 321-anti- tanking measure and I don't like it. I think the much bigger issue is load management. I thought the NBA tanking this year was simply because it's a generationally gifted draft with nine or 10 day one starters. Next year's a horrible draft and I kind of think bad teams were trapped because it's harder to make trades. I don't think tanking is a systemic issue. I thought it was just an issue this year and it'll disappear next year. But Adam Silver feels it is a systemic problem. I think load management's been an issue for a decade and they won't address it. That I don't get. I'm wrong.

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Where Colin was right.

[Colin Cowherd]

NBA eight straight year. They'll have a new champion. Back in October, before the season, we looked it up. I said don't think OKC is going to win it. I think they're very good. I don't think they're great. I don't think we have great teams anymore. That's not necessarily a bad thing. The spurs could become that, but it's harder to make trades. It's harder to get elite players for very long on the same team. I thought Denver was going to be great. Two years later they were. They were good to very good. And so I think this is the new NBA. Although I do think Wemby and the spurs could break the current trajectory.

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Where Colin was wrong.

[Colin Cowherd]

I didn't think the Knicks were a Finals team. I picked the Celtics. I thought they had defensive flaws between Cat and Jalen Brunson and frankly I thought Boston was better. But excellent work by Mike Brown and the Knicks staff. They've made tweaks. They have all worked. And in fairness they have a good roster. They've got OG Josh Hart, Mitchell, Robinson, Bridges, all elite defenders. They've got an elite score in Cat and Brunson. They've got a little bit of everything. Multiple guys that can hit threes, multiple big strong wing defenders.

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I was wrong on the Knicks where Colin was right.

[Colin Cowherd]

I didn't have however, Chet Holmgren in my top 10 players in the conference finals players rankings because the truth is I think sometimes he gets bullied. He picks up his dribble. He's a little inconsistent offensively. I like him. But you can see it right now. If the, if the Thunder made a big move to go after Giannis, would you be shocked if they moved off Chet Holmgren again? Good player to very good player. But to me to be a top 10 player you've got to be more consistent. And I see holes in his game

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where Colin was right.

[Colin Cowherd]

Show. Oh, excuse me. Austin Reaves report today he will be a bigger priority for the Lakers than LeBron. Well, of course he will. I've said J.J. redick and Luka is the future of the organization. But you can't let Austin Reaves walk like Alex Caruso and get nothing. First of all, you already got him undrafted. He is totally over delivered. I think if he's your third, third best player you can win a title, not your second. But he absolutely is more important now than LeBron. And I think he's also a player more willing to take a team friendly deal than LeBron.

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Where Colin was wrong, Alex Bregman to

[Colin Cowherd]

the Cubs hasn't worked. He's got 18 RBIs. They just had a 10 game losing streak and got beat two out of three against the rival Cardinals. The Cubs lead baseball. Runners left in scoring position. I thought Bregman was going to be a difference maker. It so far has not worked.

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Where Colin was right.

[Colin Cowherd]

I said it years ago. Shohei Ohtani and Babe Ruth are not close. Stop. Ohtani right now appears to be the best pitcher in baseball. Six score hitless innings the other night. Right now his ERA is.82. When people compare Babe Ruth, oh boy, they get into their feels. This guy is simultaneously one year after 5050 the best pitcher in baseball and also the most dangerous power stick in baseball. Babe was never consistently that where Colin was right. Finally everybody except a few loud voices in the SEC is for a 24 team playoff. Big 12, ACC, Big 10, Notre Dame. Everybody's in. Fox, ESPN, everybody's in on the 2014 playoff. Just say it out loud. More teams in the hunt for the national championship. Into November you can have your little four teamers and your 12 teamers but by mid October 3/4 of the sport is eliminated. A 24 teamer allows more people under the tent for a longer period of time and only a handful of dissenters remain from one conference. The sec. Where Colin was wrong Where Colin was right on a Monday.

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[Colin Cowherd]

By the way, Miles Garrett Browns to the Rams the Rams give up a first round pick next year and Jared Verse. Interesting to think about. So the Rams really believe the only two teams in the NFC that can compete with them roster wise, Seattle and Philadelphia. And the Rams have had trouble blocking Jalen Carter in the interior of the Eagles defensive line. Part of this move to get Miles Garrett is to keep him away from Philadelphia because the Rams think they have the better quarterback. They got the better coach. The Rams think they have the better young defensive talent. But the Rams have struggled to block Philadelphia's Jalen Carter. Okay, they don't want to struggle to block Jalen Carter and Miles Garrett. Part of this move to me is we got to get him in LA before the Eagles do. Because the Rams know there's only a couple of teams that can even match up with him physically right now. Seattle, Philadelphia, I think, you know, I think Denver and Buffalo, that's the afc, maybe the Bears. The other thing to think about here

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the Super Bowls in LA next year. So, you know, Stan Kroenke loves this. The owner of the Rams, he wants his Rams in the Super Bowl. So you got to get this okayed by the owner, the GM. McVeigh's got power. This is one that goes all the way upstairs. The other thing to know about this. So when the Rams picked Ty Simpson, I defended it. My take is they're never going to have a pick that good again, not with Stafford and McVeigh. So you already got Trent McDuffie with your later first round pick. Get your quarterback. So the story this morning by Schefter is that the Rams first interest in Miles Garrett came in March before the draft. So think about this. It's March, the draft's coming up in a month. The Browns reworked Miles Garrett, his contract and changed the bonus structure. When you had to pay it, the Rams go, okay, now we're interested. Then the Rams again, Ty Simpson, all part of a bigger plan for the people that criticized it. Living in the moment. That's not the way the Rams operate. The Rams have been, you know, the other thing to think about is the Rams have young, one of their pass rushers and verse they drafted a kid, not this draft, a previous draft out of Michigan. And I was like, do you need another edge rusher? They're thinking two steps ahead. A lot of these organizations are, you know, a lot of guy teams in the NFL, they don't see a problem a year out. The Rams, even with their drafting, I always feel like they're drafting a year ahead of the draft. So the Ty Simpson move. Now they were talking about Miles Garrett according to Schefter in March. So they're looking at it, thinking, all right, what are we going to do with this pick? We got Young and verse. We can't. We can't pay them both. They're both good. They're not Miles Garrett. So I think keeping them out of Philly mattered. I think the super bowl being in LA mattered to Stan Kroenke. I think Matt Staffer's age. Let's just get one now. Matt's been dinged up in his career. Let's get one now. Let's not play this thing out. Let's go get it now. I think they all played A part here was Brown's gm, Andrew Barry, moments ago on the reported Miles Garrett to the Rams trade. Nothing is final at this point. We are in discussions of a potential transaction, including him. I'll have a lot more to say about it once it is final, if it does become final, and I'll discuss the details at that point. But, you know, we are in negotiations. We're, you know, we're hopeful that we close something here in the next, you know, several hours. But nothing's final right? Yet. Yeah, it is. So it's done. They'll figure out the fifth round picks later. It's done. It's like when you do any big deal, you agree to terms, some attorney works on the paperwork later, they got a deal. Wow. And I was just writing this down, the super bowl bubble teams. I mean, the Rams were already favored. I'm interested to see what Vegas does. Like, there are very few players the Rams could have brought in and it would have moved the odds. I think Myles Garrett is one of those. I've said before in the NFL, if I was a GM and if I didn't do this for a living, my dream job is to be a GM in the NFL. Pay big money, infrequently and almost always pay it for offensive players. And I've said, and J. Mac is my witness, Miles Garrett is one of a handful of players. I'd pay Max Crosby, I'd pay Miles Garrett. I would pay Anderson at Houston Will Anderson. I'd pay him. So The Rams were plus 650 before the Garrett trade to win the Super Bowl. So they're favored. I bet you it moves, man. Think about this. If you're the Niners, if I'm Kyle Shanahan, I just lock myself in my office and cry. I don't know if I could even go out for lunch today publicly. John lynch and Kyle Shanahan, right now.

[Andy Reid]

Stop it. Come on.

[Colin Cowherd]

I mean, if you're the Niners, if you're the Seahawks, John Snyder, well, he's got his ring, man. Harsh. I'm just saying, we like this Ram team before they acquired the best edge rusher since Lawrence Taylor.

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[Colin Cowherd]

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[Colin Cowherd]

Well, it's his 15th year being the GM of the Rams and in the last nine seasons, seven playoff appearances, including two Super bowl appearances. And after the Miles Garrett trade, they are overwhelming favorites to get back to at least the conference championship game. And many after the Garrett move. And we liked them pre Garrett move. It even feels more emboldened. And Les need is joining us live from his office in Los Angeles. I don't know if you're a GM or a part casting director. It's star after star after star. Let's start with Miles Garrett. Less When I read a story in March, they reworked his deal and that was about the time you guys kind of all sat down. Take me back to March. When the conversations on Miles started was

[Les Snead]

in March when they did rework his deal. It was not a major rework. It was the Browns pushing a bonus that he was owed in terms of when you pay that bonus from let's call it March till more, closer to the season. So whether that was a signal or not, I've never asked Andrew, hey, why they did that or didn't. But you know what? Maybe, maybe there's a possibility that we, you know, that Miles could be available. So we knocked on the door. I think I've said this many times over the last probably 24 hours. Miles is going to be on the Cleveland Browns, Mount Rushmore, whenever that is. And so it was a, it was an easy no for Cleveland, Andrew Cleveland. It was like, you know what, it's better for Miles to be a Cleveland Brown than an L, a Ram. But we kept knocking. We kept knocking, we kept knocking and, and we were able to finally get something done over the course of about a five to six week process.

[Colin Cowherd]

So listen, I know how much you guys like Jared Verse. I know how much time you put into drafting scouting. How hard was it? And I, and I imagine it was brutal. How hard was it to say, okay, we'll include Jared Verse in the deal?

[Les Snead]

Well, I think, Colin, we tried to get the deal done via just draft picks. That was, that's what we were trying to do. Then the draft comes and goes. Continue trying to do that. Late in the down, Cleveland mentioned it would take Jared Verse to get the deal done and that was a no for us.

[Colin Cowherd]

Right.

[Les Snead]

It was at that point. Wait a minute. Jared's been a big part of who we are, who we've become since we drafted him, since we started retooling that defense. Because that way he was just a piece of our puzzle that we weren't planning to. We were planning to have him for a long time. So, like a lot. Like initially when we called Cleveland, it was a no. Initially, when Cleveland asked for Jared Verse, it was a no. Over time, though, as it got closer to June 1st and it was going to be, hey, are we going to do this or not? Jared was, Jared was something they were definitely demanding and we had to make that difficult choice, which was very, very difficult for us.

[Fox Sports Radio Announcer]

Yeah.

[Colin Cowherd]

So Stan Kroenke, who I know a little bit, ultimately you have to go to stand on the biggest moves. And the super bowl is in la. And I said the other day, I said, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, it's in la. Stan's Baby Sofi Stadium. You know, if you're arguing back and forth, you know, it's a darn good place to end up in a Super bowl when it's your home stadium. When you, when you called Stan on this or if you did and said, hey, this is, this is a big move, did you guys talk to your owner?

[Fox Sports Radio Announcer]

It's definitely.

[Les Snead]

And I think that's, that's very important. Talk about Colin, because when you make a move like this and, and you got to remember this, this is, this occurred in June. We didn't knock on their door until free agencies over. So, you know, this was, this was an opportunity we decided to seize, but it wasn't something we planned for. And we had already gone through kind of a free agency plan when we traded for Trent and then we signed his co pilot as partner in Kansas City and free agency. So that's, you know, having Stan, having his family as ownership, they've always allowed, you know, allowed us to be flexible, be a little bit out of the box. They're the one that, they're the ones that, you know, provide us the ecosystem and give us a thumbs up to do this. So a major shout out to them. I can say this, having the super bowl and so far is a nice coincidence. We're probably all greedy. We probably show up and play a Super bowl anywhere. And I can say this too, Colin, this is, this is June 1st. Double entendre, not intended. We still got miles to go before that game. That's kind of how our ecosystem works. We're well aware that. Right. We were close last year. There's. That's evidence that.

[Colin Cowherd]

Right.

[Les Snead]

With Matthew Stafford, with our core.

[Colin Cowherd]

Right.

[Andy Reid]

We can.

[Les Snead]

We can contend, but I always go, evidence is the past, the future, still the future. We got to go earn that. We got to. We got to take that a day at a time. Just because we do something or make a major move like this on June 1st, it guarantees nothing in the future.

[Colin Cowherd]

So Sean McVeigh keeps very close to certain players. Andrew Whitworth has been unbelievably valuable to you guys. You bounce stuff off him with young offensive linemen. Andrew's just a great guy. I know that Sean and Aaron Donald have a very strong relationship. I saw that story come out yesterday, and you see a million stories, and I'm like, I don't know. He retired early. I could see it happening. I go to his Instagram page. He's not on the beach drinking cocktails. He's working out every day. I'm like, yeah, Calais Campbell's 39. He's still good. When you read. When you heard that story with Aaron Donald, come on, be honest. First. First thought was, here's what I do think.

[Les Snead]

I don't think Aaron's truly been tempted to come back since he's retired. I do think, right. The. Let's call it the excitement around the Miles Garrett trade. I'm thinking he's tempted. He's really tempted for the first time. Now, whether that temptation leads to. Leads to, you know, comes to fruition or not, time will tell. That's just how Aaron is. I think he. I think, hey, if Aaron were to come back, I'm like you. If Kalis can do it at 39, Aaron can do it at 35 in some form or fashion. And I know this about Aaron Donald. At his core, he wouldn't come back unless he thought, you know what? I could really, really, really help the Rams. That's just how he's wired. That's his. That's. That's. That's in his DNA.

[Colin Cowherd]

Yeah. Finally missing a workout.

[Les Snead]

He's never missed a workout, Colin.

[Colin Cowherd]

No, that.

[Les Snead]

That's.

[Colin Cowherd]

That guy. He is one on one. I mean, there's been four or five NFL defensive players in my life. Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, Miles Garrett, Aaron Donald. It's a pretty short list. They're just different. And that cat is just different. I gotta ask you. I gotta ask you about Ty Simpson here. Have you gotten a little look, little taste, a little. You got anything for me on Ty Simpson? Because I defended that move. I totally Understand it. Watched a ton of them in college. Have you seen it? What are you seeing?

[Fox Sports Radio Announcer]

We're early.

[Les Snead]

We're just getting on the field. Just doing 11 on 11. Remember, this is 1111 without pads. You can appreciate what Ty is going through in terms of coming in as a rookie and has to learn, right. An offense where Sean and his offense with Matthew at the helm. I mean, this isn't. This isn't a. I call it an undergraduate level outfit here. I mean, this is at the PhD level. So you can always see the rookies, you know, have to go through just to be able to ingest the offense, digest it and then process it on the field. But as we've gone into some 7 on 7, some 11 on 11, right, you've seen some of those Ty Simpson moments, some of the passes that he made. I call it the anticipation. So that's always really, really cool to see from a rookie because it's not. This is not an easy ecosystem for a rookie to come in. And let's call earn equity and trust.

[Colin Cowherd]

Les, it's great seeing you. As always, congrats on the moves. Cross your fingers on Aaron Darnold and say hi to Sean for me.

[Les Snead]

I will do that.

[Fox Sports Radio Announcer]

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[Colin Cowherd]

And so here we go. Here's my top 10 players in the NBA final. Number one. Okay, it's Wemby. He's got 35 more rebounds and 28 more block shots than any other player in the postseason. Spurs are 39. 6 since Feb. 1. When he just plays 15 minutes, he changes the calculus on the floor like nobody else. I don't think his offensive game is quite refined yet or consistent. But he also helps other players. This team leads the league in corner threes. That's because a Wemby, he's number one. Number two, Jalen Brunson. Listen, the NBA's best plus 226 with him on the court this postseason. He is the soul. He's the heartbeat. Is he a little bit of a defensive liability? So was Steph Curry. He hustles. And they also have players around him that can protect him. He's one of the best clutch players, high iq, eq, Villanova guy, just perfect. I mean, he went to New York, he took less money. He is your classic team. First guy, hard to dislike. I've got him at two, number three now. I like og. People think I like him too much. First of all, long, physical. They may match him up against Wemby, you know, he can have off games, but he's a body type. I talked to people in the NBA about this, like scouts, they're like his body type, his ability to do a little finesse but also be physical. He is so valuable. They're 27 and 5 when he gets 20 points. So they just don't lose much and they. And again San Antonio. His dexterity, his length, his physicality will be huge. Number four, Stefan Castle leads all players in assists this postseason. Plus he's second in points for the spurs now. I used to think he was a real streaky shooter. I don't think that is much. Now he is hyper aggressive. He was at UConn. He is now for the spurs on both ends of the floor, sometimes to a full fault offensively. But you know he's going to rebound, he's going to defend, he's going to be physical. He's just again the word dexterity. He just does so many things well. I've got him at 4. Carl Anthony Towns, one of the great jump shooting bigs of all time. He hopefully for the next can pull Wemby away from the iron again. Now he's an assist guy. The rigidity of Tibs. You know, you kind of knew what you had with Cat. Mike Brown and his staff in that Atlanta series. Said now and do a little point center here. Take the ball away from Brunson. Don't make us as Brunson centric. Brilliant. And they haven't lost since I have Cat at five. Number six would be Dylan Harper. Only non starter in my top 10. I think the kid's going to be amazing. I think he's unbelievable. I can't believe he's this good this early. Youngest player 20 years old all time to have a 2010 game in a conference final. I did a quick he can shoot. A lot of young players struggle with consistency shooting. Averaging 13 points a game. Shooting 52 and a half percent in the playoffs. Dylan Harper at six. Mikhail Bridges, who logs a lot of minutes, 19 a game and 63% shooting over this last nine games. I mean they gave up a lot to get him. I didn't think he had the greatest year. But again he's a wing defender at an elite level. Not a lot. I mean Mikhail Bridges is largely what the league's transitioned to over the last decade. You know, a three and D guy. So McHale's Bridges at number seven, De' Aaron Fox at eight. He's not totally healthy. He's been a clutch player of the year in the NBA. One Year he led the NBA in steals. He's a two time all star. I thought he was huge. In a couple of games against Oklahoma City he scored 15 points and all of them mattered. So again, on a very young team, his intelligence and maturity and ability. He's got a little bit of a brunson where he'll step up in big spots and take that shot. Won't always make it, but he'll take it. He's at 8. Josh Hart. Another guy that logs big minutes. Does a lot of little things. Deflections, hustle, plays. Nova guy. Smart, tough. For the record on this team he gets some open looks and he's been hitting them. So I always thought of him more of a defensive guy. But if you leave him open, he will burn you. Unless you're a Knicks fan and watch every night, you don't understand his value to the team. Logs a lot of minutes. Josh Hart at 9 and Devin of a cell at number 10. Another one of these great young players for the Spurs. He often guards the best opponent like he guarded ant in that series against Minnesota. Three pointers made again. Can they have. So it's almost weird how young the spurs are and all of their young players feel like you trust them to take a big shot in a big moment that is so counter to the NBA. I've watched where, you know, the playoffs, young guys shrink. So here's my top 10, five apiece. And I think that's all we have. I, I think we have an incredibly even finals. Mitchell Robinson. Latest word is going to play.

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[Colin Cowherd]

Andy Reid has never worn those 27 years coaching, 14 years in Kansas City. So what is your off season? Just sitting around writing up gadget plays and trying to. I Bet you're on YouTube right now looking to 1938 Rose Bowl. When's the last time you drew up a play?

[Andy Reid]

Yeah, Eric Banamy and I were doing it this morning. So it's, it's all good. We're right in the middle of these OTAs. So we just got off the field and they're always, they're always fun to do because you get to do those type of things. You get to put stuff in and it might be new, a new wrinkle here or there.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know, older players, a lot of times older players retire. Like Aaron Donald retired at 32. He was still great, but they don't like the process. They don't like camp. And I get it. Like, like, you know, you know, I've been doing this show a long time. You've been coaching a long time. How do you keep it fresh? Because you do get a new batch of draft picks every year. How do you keep it fresh for you?

[Andy Reid]

Yeah, listen, I love doing what I'm doing. I mean, you're one out of 32 guys in the whole world. And I think the older you get, the more you appreciate that, that you have the opportunity to sit here in the National Football League again, the highest level there is of football, and get to coach these guys that are phenomenal guys and, and they're, they all stay the same age, Colin. We get older, so, you know, so they're, they're full energy. They, they bring out the best in you every day. They challenge you and keep you as young as you can be at 68.

[Colin Cowherd]

Now you got a couple guys out there, they got real rich. Like Kelsey now, you know, he's rich and he, he, he could retire and you guys had some discussion at some point, you sat down and he, you know, he's obviously done well for himself. Why do you think he came back?

[Andy Reid]

Yeah, well, it's obviously not for the money. That's not, that's not what it's all about. He's done so well for himself that way. I'm proud of him for that. That's not an easy thing to do in this league. And not only as a player, but also having a profession that he can bank on once he gets done and arguably is marrying the most famous woman in the world, so. And a sweetheart at that. So he, he's sitting here and he wants to play. That's what he wants to do. And he didn't want to end on what we did last year. That's not where he wanted to finish his career. So he was all in right from the get go after the season ended. And, and I appreciate that with him, that how much he loves to play the game. There's one thing though, he's a great player. But the heart, man, is unbelievable. He just, this guy wants to play every snap, every practice snap, every game snap. Competitors all get out. So I appreciate that.

[Colin Cowherd]

So Mahomes got an acl. Most of these. I saw a story on Daniel Jones the other day. All these young athletes, the doctors are so good, the medical advances. I mean, Daniel Jones has taken snaps two days ago. And I'm like, I thought he was going to miss September. Where are we with Mahomes and do you check on Patrick every week or do you just kind of let the medical staff do it? And, I mean, how often do you check up on that?

[Andy Reid]

Yeah, listen, there's a balance there. I mean, I trust our medical staff, first of all. I trust Dr. Cooper did the surgery and we listened to him. I'm not going to go against what the experts say on that. Most of. Although I'm with Patrick every day he's practicing, and then we kind of gauge what we're putting them in on and what we're not and. And make sure that he gets work, but at the same time, he's not getting hit or somebody falling on him.

[Colin Cowherd]

Right.

[Andy Reid]

And that until it continues to heal and there's a. There's a time process there, whatever that time is, everybody does it different. Everybody's different on this thing. So different guys heal different at different rates.

[Les Snead]

And.

[Andy Reid]

And then the rehab part of it, he's been relentless with that, Colin. I mean, it's. It's crazy how much time he has spent on this thing. And, And. And so it's. He's doing it the right way. Can I guarantee that he's going to be playing on the first game? I can't guarantee that. Let's. Let's take it day by day and see what happens. And if he can go and he can get himself out of harm's way, that's. That's great. If he can't, then he's not going to play. And that's why we picked up Justin. So he's here, and we'll play him.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know, what's interesting is I think Patrick's such a unique kid, is that I remember Tom Brady didn't want to do any commercials. He didn't want to do any commercials for years. And everybody can, you know, Baker Mayfield's like, I'll do him first day. Mahomes is so globally relevant. The sport now is big in Europe. I was just over in Spain. You see NFL jerseys over there. It's everywhere. And that he's such a likable personality. He's in commercials. He's rich. He's done this. And yet there is something so regular and normal about Patrick. Like, he's just like a. He's a kid. He's like, it doesn't get affected by it. I don't. How do you explain that? Maybe I don't. Maybe it helps that he's in Kansas City. He's not in New York and la. I don't know. But he seems, like, so normal, considering he's arguably the best NFL player that's coming to the league in 20 years.

[Andy Reid]

Yeah. He grew up in a locker room. I mean, that's what I would attribute it to. His dad is a guy, but he was a great player in baseball. He brought, he made him hang around with him and in the locker room, and Mom's a good lady, so they, they raised him right and he handles it the right way. You know, it's a little bit like, you know, when you went to Spain, you know, McIntyre, you know, he took over and. Yeah. And I mean, you know, come on. Some people just have it, you know, I got tired of hearing all the bad things about the Chiefs, you know.

[Colin Cowherd]

I know. And by the way, McIntyre runs into at an event, Mahomes, and he comes the next day goes, I can't believe what a great guy he is. And I like, yeah, if Mahomes ripped you every day, you wouldn't be a nice guy. Mahomes is up there being, oh, J. Mac and a like, you know. Thank you.

[Andy Reid]

Nobody, no, McIntyre motivates me. I like that he would be a good coach. He motivates me. He motivates.

[Colin Cowherd]

Thank you, Mr. Reed. Thank you. Yeah, he motivates you. He frustrates me. So I'm glad one of us gets out of it. Andy, the only good thing about him

[Andy Reid]

right now is that he's in la. That's the only good thing that's right.

[Colin Cowherd]

You know, Andy, now, you know, you and I are closer. I'm in Chicago and I don't know if, you know, this and all that LA fru frou stuff. Chicago is an incredible food city. I eat steak twice a week now. I, I, how about that? Oh, my God. It's just these Midwest people, they eat the right way, they don't mess around.

[Les Snead]

Right.

[Andy Reid]

I was in Green Bay. I was in Green Bay for seven years and we used to go down to Chicago all the time. A great city. It's a great city.

[Colin Cowherd]

It is. All right. Finally, the, you're in this world. You got Kenneth Walker. Now, he is a bruiser. He is, I mean, at Michigan State, it's Seattle. He is yards after contact. So. And I said this the other day, you guys picked up a running back out of, actually a kid out of Nebraska, I think is a really interesting player, but, and I think he'll, he'll get in your rotation. But Kenneth Walker, how do you, he's a big carry guy, Andy. I mean, he, you can, you can rely on him for 240 carries a year. How do you monitor that because he'll run through people. He's not going to avoid contact. Are you a little worried about, hey, we need this guy regular season, postseason. He is a bruising head first runner. How do you use him?

[Andy Reid]

Yeah, listen, I love his attitude. You know, we're in the middle of these OTAs, even though we're in shorts and running around, but he's 100 miles an hour every play and every looks like he really loves the game. And he is a bruiser, man. He's on all muscle and he, he's going to get, you know, he'll get a few carries, I'd say during the season. So it'll be good for him to keep, keep growing as a football player. And that's what he wants to do. And you saw in the playoffs what he can do. Have you saw where he can. He can be a third, he can be a third down back, he can do goal line, sure. Yards, the whole works there.

[Colin Cowherd]

So Andy Reid, good way to end our show. Emmett Johnson's at running back out of Nebraska. Coach, as always, great to see you.

[Andy Reid]

All right. Appreciate you.

[Colin Cowherd]

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