J. Mac (4:04)

A little melancholy Monday.

Colin Cowherd (4:06)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

J. Mac (4:07)

I mean, I will say four, four quarterbacks left in the NFL. Did you see what's similar among Jaden Daniels, Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes?

Colin Cowherd (4:15)

They're all mobile.

J. Mac (4:16)

All mobile quarterbacks. And we see one tonight in Riley Leonard. Let's see if he. Because Will Howard, he can run, but he's on mobile.

Colin Cowherd (4:22)

Yeah.

J. Mac (4:23)

Let's see if Riley Leonard could pull off some magic feeling the Irish tonight.

Colin Cowherd (4:26)

Well, luck of the Irish, I'm not, but I think they have better special teams. The better quarterback, I would say the better coach. And the defense is at least as good as Ohio State. But the Buckeyes offense is a different level. Yeah. And you get into these, you know, these three and a half four hour games, somebody's going to pop. It's just hard to suppress. Now Michigan did it because I think, you know, they got into Ohio State's head.

J. Mac (4:51)

How much of that was the Rivalry.

Colin Cowherd (4:52)

Though, Colin, I think it was a lot of rivalry, but I remember you're the big dog favorite. I watched the, I watched the Eagles yesterday almost lose to the Rams if not for Jalen Carter. So it's like. And I, I mean, I watched Washington hammer to Detroit. Sometimes going as a favorite, you get a little tight if you fall behind. Here we do. Monday, we call it Colin, right? Colin wrong. Plenty of both. Let's fire away. Where Colin was right and saying for weeks, the Bills, this is the real deal. I think they should be favored over Buffalo, Kansas City. They're not, but they've created balance. They're not as reliant on Josh Allen. The front office is excellent. I think McDermott's evolved as a head coach. They moved off a star receiver like Kansas City and they've become more complete. First team ever, 30 plus passing and rushing touchdowns. I like everything about Buffalo. Yeah, I wish their defense was as good as the Eagles and the Chiefs. It's not. But I think offensively you go to the last several Super Bowls, it's the offense making a play regardless of how good the opposing defense is. I like the Bills over Kansas City. Where Colin was wrong. Nick Sirianni, he's in his second NFC championship. I don't have to love his methods, but he's loud. Philly's loud. He's emotional. Philly's emotional. It's just different. It's been a rocky flight, but I will say this part of coaching is getting your guys and your star players to rise to the moment. And he does it. And I just think it works. He's 52 and 23. It's a hard city to coach in. Maybe Doug Peterson, who won a Super bowl, was too chill. Maybe Chip Kelly was a bit too emotionally remote. Whatever it is, he feels like a fan coaching the team. I'm wrong. It works. Where Colin was right. Well, my number one preseason prize team to make the playoffs was the Washington Commanders. Colin, there's too much change. Yeah, but when all the other people are bad and all the new people are good, who cares? I love the staff, the gm, the coordinator. One host in America had the courage to say, yeah, I think this 20 year tire fire is going to make the playoffs. It was me, a little boy with big dreams. And here's Washington in the NFC Championship. Good for them. Where Colin was wrong. Yeah, I'm a Jared Goff loyalist. That was ugly. Three picks, lost a fumble. It was just ugly. And got outplayed by a rookie, a great rookie. But when they Had Jameis Williams throwing it. That the wide receiver from Alabama when he was throwing a pass, that felt like almost a message, like, you know, on Jared Goff throwing a ball. Because when you do those, you know, reverses, those receivers, they want to throw the ball. They're not going to. They're not going to tuck it. They're going to throw the ball. So listen, Sean McVay moved off golf. I don't think they're going to be moving off on them now. But you couldn't watch that game as a pocket quarterback and wonder what's the off season going to be like. Second, third, fourth round on a pretty stacked roster. Think they'll roll the dice now? Riley Leonard. Don't be shocked where Collin was right. Kansas City's not lucky. I've been hearing this all year. They're circumstantially the best team in football. Best coach, best defensive coordinator, best quarterback. Yes, Mahomes can manipul late the officials, but what do you know? Travis Kelce. We say this all the time. It's like Gronk. You go to the NBA playoffs, the NFL playoffs, there's a red light that goes on for the great ones. And here's Travis Kelsey, 70% of the offense. So listen, eight straight games without a turnover. I mean, just say that out loud. In the NFL, the Chiefs have played eight straight games without a turnover. That to me, is not luck. Where Colin was right. I said, Mike McCarthy has the leverage. He should ask for the moon against Dallas. He'll have a market. And all of it's been true. He now, I believe, could be the favorite to get the Chicago Bears job. And here's the thing about Mike McCarthy. Since he arrived in Dallas, only the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen have a more productive offense. He won with Favre. An old, grumpy Favre. He won with Aaron. He went with Dak. He went with Cooper Rush. He won some games with Andy Dalton. I believed it was a regressing franchise and he is still a marketable coach. We were right on. Mike McCarthy who now is interviewing for other jobs where Colin was wrong. You know, I love Sam Darnold, but those last couple of games, 66 passer rating were not ideal. Yes, I had him receiving MVP votes in week 14 and 15, but it's how it ends. Jaden Daniels ends great. Sam Darnold did not. I think he is now what he's probably always been. Baker Mayfield, little reckless, darn good, works his butt off. Likable B plus guy making mid 30s a year where Colin was right folks, all your billionaires, or at least most of them could afford what the Dodgers are doing. Who landed Roki Sasaki, the next great young pitching star from Japan. You do realize the Dodgers deferring payments? Every franchise could do that. They also win trades. They have arguably the best minor league system. They stole Oscar Hernandez for nothing. This is an organization that is hyper aggressive. All these owners in baseball, even the A's in the Fisher family are billionaires. All of these organizations can defer payments. It's absolutely legal. I hear this all the time. What is wrong with baseball? When the Yankees were dominating the Hot Stove league it was celebrated. People don't like it because they think they're they're using some system that's not legal. Deferred payments are the future of baseball and the smartest team in the sport has figured it out first. Where Colin was right, Riley Leonard led his team to a natty despite the fact they have one five star athlete. I think this is the most underrated player in college football. I think he's going to go to an offensive Coach like a McVay, sit for two years, not play and you look up and he's getting reps on Sunday. I don't know, I just when I watch him, tough, athletic, got kind of a weird delivery but every time they ask him to make a big throw, he makes it. I think he has been my favorite dark horse player in college football for the entire year and here he is. Taking a team that doesn't have as many five star football recruits as Kentucky to the national championship Helps. He's got a great coach. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS1 and the iHeartRadio app.

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Yeah, being a football player with plaque psoriasis can be challenging. My skin get flaky and itchy, so my doctor told me about a pill, otla. It works from the inside out.

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Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you gonna find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I texted you and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest, it was a little pink.

Colin Cowherd (14:39)

There was something sentimental when you, when you send it. It was like, do I send the heart now?

Bobby Bones (14:45)

I don't like the color edition.

Colin Cowherd (14:47)

It's extremely pink.

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Colin Cowherd (14:55)

Yeah. I'm eternally grateful that I get a broadcast for a living and watch sports and take notes and have fun. But it's also been great that I get Tom Brady on a regular basis. He is joining us live now. So I gotta start with this, because everything I read on the Internet, Tom, is true. And it breaks my heart that we only got to work a year together. You're already leaving, so this really hard for me. I swear to God. The interweb has you. I don't know where you're going, but you're leaving. Would you address that, please?

Tom Brady (15:25)

It's hard for me, too. I thought it was a great run, you know, one solid year. So, you know, there's time for new things, and I figured, you know, this has been totally mastered at this point. Yeah, I don't know where it comes from. I know it always says sources close to Brady or whatever, but I've had the best time at Fox, and I loved every time going into the booth and working with such great people, starting with my partner Kevin, everyone in our crew, Z, Rus, Aaron, Tom, who, you know, everyone would probably know a little bit about. But behind the scenes, there's so many incredible people that bring the NFL to life. And to see kind of how it is from a different perspective. You know, I've had so many years, 23 years playing on the field. I've watched so many games from. From, you know, the sideline, sideline view, and now I'm sitting up there in the booth and seeing it from a different perspective, and I've. I've. I've loved kind of just the whole process and. And diving into all these different teams. It's been a lot of growth for me in one year, and I really can't see. Can't wait to see what it looks like in year two and way beyond that, too. So I got nine years left on my deal and maybe longer. You never know. Fox wants me, then I want to go. We'll just keep going because it's been really fun thus far.

Colin Cowherd (16:42)

I think sources close to Brady are your kids, and my guess is they're not leaking stuff to the Internet. Okay, so. So all right, let's get into the Raider stuff. So they need a coach again. There's a lot of talk about who the coach. They need a general manager. So you were a rookie broadcaster. You're now a rookie, part of an ownership group. Kind of give me what does this Entail.

Tom Brady (17:08)

It's a great point. You know, being a rookie, too, you got to almost go back to what your roots are as a rookie and remember that when you are a rookie, you're trying to learn as much as you can. And when I was a rookie as a quarterback, I really just kind of engulfed myself in the playbook and listened to a lot of the veterans and. And this is how you're going to go about it, Tom, is how you're going to be the best possible player you can be. And then you realize that many years later, 10 years later, I started to actually perform the way that I thought I was capable of performing. So I wish I could have played football my entire life, but that kind, you know, 23 years was long enough. I got tired of really taking the hits, and I wanted to spend, you know, as much time as I could with the kids. So really being involved with the Raiders gives me an opportunity to be involved with football for the rest of my life. And I really love teamwork. I always have. I love seeing other people succeed. I really hope other players get former players, get opportunities to. To be involved with teams. And. And right now, I've got. There's a great ownership group. There's other great people involved. I'm one voice. It's so collaborative. But I think this process of learning is. Is so important, so that's kind of where it's at.

Colin Cowherd (18:22)

So I want to ask you about Ben Johnson. So this is interesting to me. So everybody says, and I think I fall into this, hey, he got an offensive coach. And you think immediately, that's great, but you didn't. And, in fact, Belichick let you and Josh kind of go behind the curtain and. And he let you do your thing, which I love that. That's cool. Like, hey, you're into it. Josh, if you get an offensive coach, when you look.

Tom Brady (18:50)

Here's what I think when you look at these.

Colin Cowherd (18:52)

Okay, go ahead.

Tom Brady (18:52)

Sorry, Colin. It's like a second delay, but I. I think that it's. There's such a jigsaw puzzle when you look at a lot of different organizations and whether they're football organizations or basketball, baseball. I think it's a collective group of people, and you got to figure out that. That puzzle of what exactly fits if you do have a defensive head coach. You know, like Bill was. Bill was a great manager, and Bill did a great job coaching the coaches, and he had high expectations. I think he had background in offense, so he didn't necessarily probably throw all his ideas out there. But he did have a general understanding of how we should perform on offense, and he had expectations for that. Bill was, I thought, the one of the greatest special teams coaches ever in the history of the NFL and obviously the greatest defensive coordinator probably in the history of the NFL. So I think when you look at all the different roles that he played in the organization that I was successful in, he did more than just coach. He was a great kind of added beneficiary or added great benefit to the defensive staff. He was a great listening and his ability to listen to what we're doing offensively, he could provide insight to that. There was a lot of things he added to our, to our club. So this whole puzzle with the offense, coach, defensive coach, I just. It should be about great people doing great things, working collaboratively, being humble, learning every year in the same way that you said earlier to me, you're always trying to up your game every year. I feel like that's what I always try to do as a player, and I don't see that's any different in football or in business. Everybody should always be looking to improve and understanding where their weaknesses are, how to improve their weaknesses, and then continue to build on their strengths.

Colin Cowherd (20:34)

You watched a lot of Caleb Williams. If there was one thing that you want him to improve on that Ben Johnson can zero in on and you got a lot of snaps, is there one thing you'd say, hey, Caleb, this is the one thing I want you to work on?

Tom Brady (20:48)

I think it's always, you know, there's, there's. Well, I would say this for any player, and Caleb in particular, he's a young player. There's a lot of room for growth. Obviously it's really up to him to decide where he wants to spend his time and energy to become the player that he wants to be. And I believe that there's three parts that make up great players. The physical, the mental, the emotional. We all have deficiencies. None of our perfect players. Maybe the only perfect players I played against was Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, Jason Taylor. Those guys were perfect in my opinion, but they had so many things figured out. I, let's say was at one point was physically, probably not where I wanted to be. Mentally, emotionally, I was always very good. I had a great understanding of the tactics I could bring, a competitive desire to practice every single day to get the most out of my teammates. Where I needed to prove was physically, how do I become a better pocket passer, how do I improve the footwork in my pocket, how can I become more durable how can I be a little bit more stronger in the pocket? When those things caught up to what I was doing mentally and emotionally, I became the type of player that I wanted to be. Some guys are really blessed physically so they don't have to work on necessarily the mental emotional as much. So I think you always have to have an understanding if you want to reach your true potential. It's about maximizing all three of those things. I went and spoke to the Notre Dame football team before they were in the Orange, excuse me, before they won the Orange Bowl. I talked about those exact same things. I talk any player who comes up and talks to me, whether it's other quarterbacks on those teams, whether it's college teams, you know, they're always seeking my advice. And I tell them the same thing. You have to have a self awareness about who you are, where you want to go, and then work hard at the things where you're deficient in while still understanding what your strengths are and build on those. But this is a, this is a full time job to be an NFL player. This is. I woke up in the morning brushing my teeth in the morning, thinking about my throwing mechanics. If I just, just get my left shoulder looking in the mirror every day, that's, that's how I thought about it and I think that's why I was able to have such a productive career over a long period of time.

Colin Cowherd (22:57)

Jaden Daniels is obviously gifted. He moves well, he's accurate when you watch him from upstairs. What is the one thing that surprises you about Jaden Daniels as a rookie quarterback?

Tom Brady (23:11)

I think when you deal with most rookie quarterbacks, and I think what I saw in this Detroit game is when they most defensive coaches now, it's just like, let's put pressure on them, let's get to the middle of the pocket, let's send blitzers, he won't see him, he won't have a full understanding of protections or where his great one on one matchups are. Jaden looks, and I know this for a fact, he is a tremendous work ethic. Everybody speaks about his ability to work hard. He's in the playbook. You know, after he gets drafted in the off season, he's trying to understand what the coaches are going to ask him. And then you see how it's reflected in his rookie season, one of the great rookie seasons any quarterbacks ever had. And he's got a great connection with his players, he has the physical tools and he's a very humble kid, how that reflects. And when I watch him Play. He has tremendous poise in the pocket. He's calm under the chaos of being an NFL quarterback. They're blitzing him the other night, the Lions, where he's standing in the pocket waiting the very last second. A lot like a, you know, Patrick does in so many ways and then delivers the ball accurately to his receivers in stride and they make big plays. So that's, I think, a little bit about what's in store for him as he continues to develop in his future. His poise, confidence in himself. Some players need production to become confident. Some people become confident before they have any production. That's a great trait to have as an athlete. Before you walk on the field, you're confident. You don't need to complete your first five passes to become confident. And I think that's what I see in a young Jaden Daniels take out.

Colin Cowherd (24:55)

Gronk and the Patriots weren't known as personality plus. Belichick muted some of that or player or players self muted that knowing Bill didn't like him. It. And then there's the Philadelphia Eagles. It's ego. And now, now Barkley Saquon is very Patriot like Jalen hurts a little bit, but it's a big personality. The coach is barking at fans. How does it work in Philadelphia? Because it's the opposite of your dynasty.

Tom Brady (25:25)

Sure, I think they do things very uniquely, but Howie Roseman's done an incredible job assembling that team. I think he's a guy that lives and breathes football every single day. When you think about being tough, you think about the offensive line and running the football and the defensive line and their ability to stop the run. And you're right, they do have some personalities. But when I look at Jordan, my Lotta, when I look at Lane Johnson and Dickerson and Jurgens and Makai Becton coming in there, the strength of that team is their offensive line and Saquon and they're just tremendous. That dominating force they have up front is absolutely incredible. And the defensive line has done a tremendous job. Williams has done a great job. Jalen Carter's had a great second season. Sweat's done a great job. They lost Brandon Graham and Huff to injury and they're still producing at a very high level. So. So I think that physical toughness permeates the whole team. And you're right, I think naturally at the skill positions there always is a little more personality. And I referenced this in one of the games, the receivers certainly, and this has been even when I was a rookie with Terry Glenn, you know, God rest his soul. But he, he had a, you know, his own way of trying to get included. And if they're not getting passes all the time, whether that was Randy, who I love more than anyone in this world, they just, they want to feel included in what they're doing. If they're not getting balls and impact in the game, they want to let you know about it. And that's just part of it that comes with the territory. AJ Does a little bit of that. Devontae Smith is, is obviously a great teammate and a very unselfish player, but naturally some of those, I would say cornerback positions, receiver positions, they have their own way of looking at things and you just, you just deal with it.

Colin Cowherd (27:20)

Probably finally here, because we have about three minutes left. Mahomes getting a lot of heat. I've been defending the Patriots. I said a couple years ago when they, when they moved off Tyreek Hill, they became the Patriots. They wouldn't be the fireworks show. It was like you guys losing Moss. You're not going to score 50. You're going to have to be more efficient, you have to be smarter. You have to be even better situationally. Randy Moss or Tyreek Hill give you those free touchdowns over the top. And those two play drives, those are over. I think they manipulate, I think they leverage, I think they're smart. I don't think, you know, all this rig stuff's nonsense, but I will say Mahomes in that out of bounds stuff, where he stops, I don't love that. I think it's. I don't love that. What do you make of the late hits and the controversy the league is protecting Mahomes? What do you make of all of it?

Tom Brady (28:09)

Well, there's an aspect that I don't like about the. Some of these defensive rules. I think I've been pretty outspoken, not just on broadcast, but just in general over the last bunch of years. And before a quarterback's out of bounds, you know, you hit them and it's. The reality for me is offensive players need to protect themselves. And if they're running full speed and the defenders are coming up, the defenders, the intent is to create. The only way to turn the ball over is to create force.

Colin Cowherd (28:40)

Right.

Tom Brady (28:41)

You're not going to blow on the football and gonna, gonna, you know, knock its way out of a running back's hands or a quarterback. Since you got to go in there with force and knock it out. You're trying to create turnovers, you're trying to disrupt the pass, you're trying to dislodge the ball. The only way to do that is with force, and there needs to be an aggressiveness to doing that. When quarterbacks become running backs and they're out of the pocket, they should lose their protection. And we are, in essence, we're trying to say we're trying to protect the quarterbacks, but coaches are calling more quarterback runs than ever in the history of the game. So who's protecting the quarterback? We're trying to say the referee should do it. I believe if you're an offensive player and you can't protect yourself, or you're a defensive player and you can't protect yourself, if you're a D lineman and you're engaged in a block, no one can come and clip you, which is. That's a chop block. That's well known. Everyone agrees with that. If you're defending your own block, you know, they can. They got to get you on the ground somehow. If you're running with the ball, you should protect yourself. If you don't want to get hit, you can go down, you can run out of bounds, but you can't, in essence, have the defensive player come in at half speed and then you run over the defensive player because he's afraid of getting a penalty. And I think. I think it's a. Just a disservice to the game. It's something that I would hope that people would really address and say, not that anyone's trying to take advantage of the rules, but they've just gone to a point where it does impact the quality of the game. I was on my social media and I was watching Ronnie Lott and he. Who's the greatest safety? Ronnie Lot.

Colin Cowherd (30:18)

Why?

Tom Brady (30:19)

Because he brought a force to the game that if you were catching the ball over the middle, he was going to force incomplete passes. And if the quarterbacks made bad reads, you know, that's who. That's how the game got taught. Now there's no repercussions for quarterbacks making poor reads, making poor decisions out of the pocket. So I think overall, in my opinion, that needs to be seriously looked at.

Colin Cowherd (30:43)

All right. And like the professional broadcaster he is, he hands it to me for about 12 seconds left before we go to break. Tom Brady, nice to know you're going to be back at Fox. You know, you gotta be careful about the interweb, folks. Not everything, believe it or not, is true. And his sources, I swear to you, are as kids. And that's who everybody's sources should be, my friend. Good seeing you, Tom.

Tom Brady (31:03)

Bye, Colin. We'll Talk to you soon, man. Have a great week.

Colin Cowherd (31:06)

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Dallas Goddard (32:57)

Yeah, being a football player with plaque psoriasis can be challenging. My skin gets flaky and itchy, so my doctor told me about a pill, otesla. It works from the inside out.

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Dallas Goddard (33:31)

Talking to my doctor about a pill was a total game changer.

Colin Cowherd (33:33)

If you're struggling with plaque psoriasis, talk to your doctor about Otla. Visit otezla.com for more information or call 1-844-4-OTEZLA for prescribing info, info about cost and more hey, it's Bobby Bones.

Bobby Bones (33:50)

Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you gonna find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL. NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit everything. Because we got lots to say. I I texted you and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest, it was a little pink.

Colin Cowherd (34:32)

There was something sentimental. When you, like when you send it, it's like, do I send the heart?

Bobby Bones (34:38)

Now I don't like the color edition.

Colin Cowherd (34:40)

It's extremely pink.

Bobby Bones (34:41)

Listen to Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Consider this is a daily news podcast. And lately the news is about a big question. How much can one guy change?

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They want change.

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Colin Cowherd (35:08)

Promises made, promises kept.

Narrator/Voiceover (35:10)

We're going to keep our promises on consider this from NPR. Listen on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

Colin Cowherd (35:18)

So I do this before huge games every year or a huge series. I do the 10 best players, which gives me some sense of who's gonna win. So let's go Washington and Buffalo or Washington and Philadelphia On Fox, the 10 best players. And again, this is my opinion, but it's based On a lot of data and a lot of stats, who are the 10 best players in the Commanders Eagles game on Fox, the NFC championship? So I think the number one player is Saquon Barkley, who's on a short list of the greatest running backs I've ever seen. He is so good. This team is built around the O line and the running back, not the quarterback. Most rushing yards through the first two games in NFL playoff history. All class speed moves, power. Saquon Barkley. Number two, Jordan Meilott is the highest gritted offensive tackle in the NFL. Offensive tackles matter a lot more than interior lineman. Highest grid one sack allowed 464 pass blocking attempts this year for the Eagles. Number three is Jalen Carter. I think he's the best defensive tackle right now in the NFL. I know it's only year two highest graded defender at any position this playoff among these final four teams. Georgia Bulldog Jalen Carter, number four. I don't think it's hyper. I think Jaden Daniels is magic folks. I think we're looking at a kid. Highest passer rating by any of the four quarterbacks and that's with an average O line and one weapon. Tied for the most wins by a rookie quarterback in the season including the playoffs. His fourth quarter numbers don't even make sense. They don't even make sense. Number five, Zach Vaughn. Now he's a linebacker. Even though he's a finalist for defensive player of the year, he is a linebacker. He's unbelievable. A highest graded linebacker in the NFL this year. Former special teams guy but again linebacker has limitations. We've seen great teams move off really good linebackers because of the position. Number six, A.J. brown. They went 14:1 when A.J. brown, the wide receiver, the book reading wide receiver played for Philadelphia and they averaged 29 and a half points when he played. He is special. Number seven, Terry McLaurin. Maybe not the burner or or quite the impact but talk about consistent with all sorts of quarterbacks. Five straight years of a thousand yards, great hands open often and again this has been a franchise that can't find the quarterback until this year. Lane Johnson's number eight right tackle for the Philadelphia Eagles has not allowed a sack since Last Year Week 14. So he is considered the best right tackle. Tristan Wurfs and him Now Worfs has moved over to the left side but highest graded right tackle in the NFL this season and it feels like this has been his position. He and Tristan Wirfs for years. Number nine, Landon Dickerson. Who is the best guard and the highest graded guard in the playoffs according to PFF line for Philadelphia. It goes back to the Tyron Smith Smith, you know, Zach Martin Cowboy O line where it's like everybody's great and number 10. I'd give Bobby Wagner at Washington the edge here. Only player in the NFL. He's a tackle machine with 140 plus tackles and three plus fumble recoveries. Smart. Still got some movement. Tackle machine, tough physically. And there you go. I'm gonna do the Bills. Kansas City after Greg Cosell. So I want your reaction. First of all. Now there's a bunch of really good players at 11, 12, 13, 14. Philadelphia is so stacked I don't even know what to do with about three of their guys.

J. Mac (38:55)

I need you to flash it on the screen one more time.

Colin Cowherd (38:57)

Jalen Hurts did not make it. No, no.

J. Mac (39:01)

Jalen Hurts is not one of the 10 best players in the NFC championship.

Colin Cowherd (39:05)

I'll hurt. Jalen Hurts. No. You think that's outrageous? Who am I going to replace him?

J. Mac (39:11)

No comment. Jalen Hurts Colin.

Colin Cowherd (39:16)

That's how I see it. Oh my God. Seven to three Edge Philadelphia. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS1 and the iHeartRadio app you can count on T Mobile to help keep you connected from big cities to small towns on America's largest 5G network. Switch the T mobile, keep your phone and they'll pay it off up to 800 bucks per line via prepaid card. Learn more@t mobile.com Keep and switch up to four lines via virtual prepaid card. Allow 15 days qualifying unlock device credit service port in 90 plus days with device and eligible carrier and timely redemption required. Card has no cash access and expires in six months. Colin Coward here with pro tight end Dallas Goddard to share his journey with plaque psoriasis and how he tackles his symptoms with otesla.

Dallas Goddard (40:12)

Aprimolast yeah, being a football player with plaque psoriasis can be challenging. My skin gets flaky and itchy, so my doctor told me about a pill, otesla. It works from the inside out.

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OTESLA is a prescription medicine used to treat adult patients with plaque psoriasis for whom phototherapy or systemic therapy is appropriate. OTESLA can help you get clearer skin after just four months. Dallas is an OTESLA patient that has been compensated for his time. Don't use OTESL if you're allergic to it. Get medical help right away if you have trouble breathing or swallowing, swelling of the face, lips, tongue, throat or arms, severe diarrhea, nausea or vomiting, depression, suicidal thoughts or weight loss can happen. Tell your doctor if any of these occur and if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts.

Dallas Goddard (40:47)

Talking to my doctor about a pill was a total game changer.

Colin Cowherd (40:50)

If you're struggling with plaque psoriasis, talk to your doctor about Otesla. Visit Otesla.com for more information or call 1-844-4-OTEZLA for prescribing info, info about cost and more hey, it's Bobby Bones.

Bobby Bones (41:07)

Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else you can find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic innovation NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I I texted you and you text me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest, it was a little pink.

Colin Cowherd (41:49)

There was something sentimental. When you, like when you send it, you're like, do I send the heart now?

Bobby Bones (41:55)

I don't like the color edition.

Colin Cowherd (41:56)

It's extremely pink.

Bobby Bones (41:58)

Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Indicator is a podcast where daily economic news is about what matters to you. And we're guessing most days that's money.

Colin Cowherd (42:12)

Workers have been feeling the sting of.

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Inflation, so as a new administration promises action on the cost of living, taxes and home prices, the S&P 500 biggest post election day spike ever. Follow all the big changes and what they mean for you.

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Make America affordable again.

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Listen to the Indicator from NPR on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get podcasts.

Colin Cowherd (42:34)

By the way, I I started this segment giving you the 10 best players in the Washington Philadelphia game, seven to three. Philadelphia and I probably would have given them the 11 and 12 players as well. They're favored by six. They should be. Buffalo Kansas City to me is even more interesting and much less lopsided. So the number one player would be Patrick Mahomes. Nobody would dispute that 163 playoff record arguably outside of Brady, the best playoff quarterback of all time. So Patrick Mahomes again no argument that Josh Allen, Buffalo would be number two. It's a flip flop. I'll give it to Mahomes because he's been more successful. Successful. Now it gets tougher. Gets. Gets tough. Now quarterbacks are both great. They're one and two. Now what's the most important position after quarterback? Well, left tackle. Defensive tackle. Now I would put Chris Jones number three. He's going to be a Hall of Famer. When Aaron Donald retired. The most disruptive playoff interior lineman in football. He's the highest rated defender for the Chiefs all season long and they've had the best situational defense. Defense. Now number four is interesting. This could be a lot of players. Creed Humphrey's the best center in football and it's not necessarily close. Highest gritted player on the Chiefs this season. On the entire roster of a two time champ and favored to be a third time champ. He doesn't have the flexibility of Joe Tunney. But when Kelsey retired, Jason Kelsey retired. This is easily Oklahoma via Oklahoma Sooners the best center in the game. Number five. Five. It's Travis Kelsey. He is Gronk in the playoffs. He is wide open. He was 70% of their offense last week. And he is not necessarily a regular season phenom either was Gronk at the end. But I would put Travis Kelsey 5. I would go to Dion Dawkins left tackle. I think left tackle is the second most important position in football. And he has been a multiple time pro. Boulder four straight. Has not allowed a single second back since week nine against the best pass rushers in the AFC. I would put Trent McDuffie the highest graded corner in the NFL at number seven. Now you could argue he should be higher but it's hard for cornerbacks. I mean Sauce Gardner is great. What does it matter for wins? I. I think you can. You can move people around, you can jam them. You can get into situations when you. Where you can minimize the effectiveness. Ms. On a corner. Number eight, Gregory Russo @ Buffalo. Listen, he's. He's their elite pass rusher. He's on the field more generally than Von Miller. Highest graded defender for the Buffalo Bills this year. When he's healthy and playing they're very good. Number nine. A guy that's banged up from time to time but boy does he matter. Matt Milano is a playmaker when he plays their 5 and 18 tackles, a sack, four quarterback hits. He feels like kind of the. The. The soul of this defense in My opinion though, he has been banged up from time to time. I would put James Cook, the running back at number 10. 19 touchdowns in 18 games and he is also, you could argue he should be higher. He has really alleviated some pressure in the red zone. He can smell that end zone. So now it's five to five. But I think what's interesting when you look at the top 10 is the quality of great players. If you take out Josh Allen, Mahomes the best quarterback, Chris Jones the best defensive tackle, Humphrey the best center, Travis Kelsey the best big game, tight end, Trent McDuffie the best corner. And Buffalo's corners by the way are banged up in this game. They're supposed to play but they're banged up. So now this is five to five. But the elite players in key positions tend to be Kansas City. That's why they're probably favored by a point now half your reaction to this? You didn't like my first one. Your reaction to this?

J. Mac (46:25)

Well, the Jalen Hurts omission is just, I mean it's going to be a wedge in our friendship. As for this one, you know I don't totally disagree. It reminds me in the super bowl when you did Niners Chiefs. It was flip flop. The Niners had the top end talent, remember and they were slightly favorites in the super bowl. And I feel like the same situation here.

Narrator/Voiceover (46:44)

Yes.

J. Mac (46:45)

Chris Jones, highly rated by pff Creed Humphrey short.

Colin Cowherd (46:47)

Sure.

J. Mac (46:48)

I would quibble with Allen versus Mahomes. Allen's been better this year. That's undeniable. He's going to be the mvp. Should be the mvp. I think a lot of people will be upset with Milano because he was hurt and his grades have not been great this year.

Colin Cowherd (47:01)

I'm just talking, I'm, I'm talking the best players now in the AFC championship. If Milano is not playing I would take Kansas City.

J. Mac (47:08)

Well you know who I think he's that put in over Milano is Dalton Kid Kate, if you're just looking at best he is awesome. And by the way I just looked up who the inactives were and missed the earlier Chiefs Bills games. The Bills were without Keon Coleman.

Colin Cowherd (47:21)

Yes.

J. Mac (47:22)

Spencer Brown the right tackle and Dalton Kincaid.

Colin Cowherd (47:25)

Yes.

J. Mac (47:25)

And the offense still put 30 on the Chiefs.

Colin Cowherd (47:27)

No, I, I, I'm picking Buffalo in this in a high scoring game. I think both teams score.

J. Mac (47:32)

I'm curious who guards Kincaid on the Chiefs. Like who's going to defend him? He's a really tough matchup.

Colin Cowherd (47:37)

I had Toonie 11, Kincaid 12 and Tunis more flexible.

J. Mac (47:41)

He can move we'll see if Was he going to match up with Russo.

Colin Cowherd (47:45)

Von Miller it's exciting.

J. Mac (47:48)

Bills.

Colin Cowherd (47:48)

My wife doesn't follow sports and I'm like this is this biggest football game of the year and likely it will be the best game we see. It'll be better than the super bowl cuz I think the winner of this has a chance to roll in the Super Bowl.

J. Mac (48:00)

Possibly. Is Nick upset with you that you're picking the bills here?

Colin Cowherd (48:04)

I didn't ask for an okay. No.

J. Mac (48:06)

I thought you guys would text about it and he'd get on your case or something.

Colin Cowherd (48:08)

I I always know who he's picking. Picking. Well, obviously.

J. Mac (48:11)

But I he, he doesn't like it when you put the bills at the top. And do you think the chief should be up top all the time?

Colin Cowherd (48:16)

I am.

J. Mac (48:17)

That's your guy.

Colin Cowherd (48:17)

I am still his mentor at this point. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app you can count on T Mobile to help keep you connected from big cities to small towns on America's largest 5G network. Switch the T Mobile, keep your phone and they'll pay it off up to 800 bucks per line via prepaid card. Learn more@t mobile.com Keep and switch up to four lines via virtual prepaid card. Allow 15 days qualifying unlock device credit service port in 90 plus days with device and eligible carrier and timely redemption required. Card has no cash access and expires in six months. Colin Coward here with pro tight end Dallas Goddard to share his journey with plaque psoriasis and how he tackles his symptoms with otla.

Dallas Goddard (49:14)

Aprimolast yeah, being a football player with plaque psoriasis can be challenging. My skin gets flaky and itchy so my doctor told me about a pill, otesla. It works from the inside out.

Narrator/Voiceover (49:23)

OTESLA is a prescription medicine used to treat adult patients with plaque psoriasis for whom phototherapy or systemic therapy is appropriate. OTESLA can help you get clearer skin after just four months. Dallas is an OTESLA patient that has been compensated for his time. Don't use OTESL if you're allergic to it. Get medical help right away if you have trouble breathing or swallowing, swelling of the face, lips, tongue, throat or arms, severe diarrhea, nausea or vomiting, depression, suicidal thoughts or weight loss can happen. Tell your doctor if any of these occur and if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts.

Dallas Goddard (49:49)

Talking to my doctor about a pill was a total Game changer.

Colin Cowherd (49:52)

If you're struggling with plaque psoriasis, talk to your doctor about Otesla. Visit otla.com for more information or call 1-844-4-OTEZLA for prescribing info, info about cost, and more.

Bobby Bones (50:07)

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with a Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic innovation NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit everything. Because we got lots to say. I. I texted you and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but, like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest. It was a little pink.

Colin Cowherd (50:51)

There was something sentimental when you. Like when you send it, it was like, do I send the heart now?

Bobby Bones (50:57)

I don't like the color edition.

Colin Cowherd (50:58)

It's extremely pink.

Bobby Bones (51:00)

Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Narrator/Voiceover (51:06)

Consider this is a daily news podcast. And lately the news is about a big question. How much can one guy change?

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They want change.

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What will change look like for energy?

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Drill, baby.

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Drill schools.

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Take the Department of Education. Close it. Health care better and less expensive.

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Follow coverage of a changing country.

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Promises made, promises kept.

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We're gonna keep our promises on.

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Consider this from NPR. Listen on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

Colin Cowherd (51:36)

And here we go. That's a hot one. Let's blaze it up. Fire it up. It's Collins Blazin 5, sponsored by DraftKings Commanders and Eagles. I like Philadelphia -6 and the over 47 and a half. The Eagles have won 14 of 15 games, and they're virtually unbeatable when A.J. brown's in the lineup. They averaged an NFL best 193 rushing yards over the second best team in the league, right? That was number one in the league over the last 15 games. Okay. They have no giveaways in four straight games. So their rush offense, the last 15 games, yards per game percentage attempts a game. This is what they do. It's not a quarterback led team. It is a run game led team. The Commanders third straight road playoff game. They allowed in the win 12 big plays versus Detroit. No rookie's ever been to a Super bowl and their rush defense leaves a lot to be desired. 30th okay, so you're talking about a team that is road weary, that is outclassed physically. Their weakness is the Philadelphia strength. Is Jaden Daniels capable of performing maggot magic, a backdoor cover? Absolutely. But last week I wouldn't touch Detroit. Philadelphia. I said stay away. Don't bet it. It worries me because of Detroit's defense. Philadelphia's defense. Boy they hit on draft picks and that secondary. It's excellent. The Washington Commanders are missing their best linemen. An inter lineman against Jalen Carter. Potential nightmare Rams who had a rookie center struggled with this at the end of that game. I like Philadelphia to win 34 to 24. I think it could get a little ugly. I'll take the over as well comfortably. Bill said. Chiefs the wise guys like Kansas City, but I've been on the Bills for a month to win the Super Bowl. The winner of this game in my opinion, hoist the Lombardi Trophy. They have a winning record against the Chiefs and Shawn McDermott has been there. Did you know that in nine meetings they've won five. They lead the NFL in turnover differential. This team is different. Like Kansas City. They don't beat themselves. Fewest giveaways, eight in a single season in league history. 12 games this year without a turnover. Their defense also may not be elite. Right? You don't think it's elite. But they led the NFL with 35 takeaways because you're usually trailing and have to play catch up and are kind of predictable. Josh Allen in his playoff career, do not confuse him with Lamar Jackson. He has been excellent again. Nine games against Mahomes total. He's won five and Kansas City I think the gig is up. Even if you go to that Houston game, they only had 212 yards offense. They only averaged 4 yards of play. Very Travis Kelce dependent. I like the Bills receiving core better. I like their running back room better. I like their offensive line better. I think quarterback is a wash. Kansas City's got the better defense. Josh Allen has a way of making great defenses, reducing them to so. So I'm going to take the Bills to win a close game outright. You know it's going to be close. Drama filled 28, 27. I believe whoever wins this game wins the Super Bowl.

Bobby Bones (55:09)

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing With a Star. So where else you gonna find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything. Listen to Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

Tom Brady (55:40)

This week on the R and B Money podcast, Tank and Jay Valentine sit down with the one and only Snoop Dogg.

Bobby Bones (55:47)

I wanted to be here personally to.

Colin Cowherd (55:49)

Come give y'all y'all flowers and let y'all know y'all doing an amazing job.

Bobby Bones (55:52)

Yes, sir. I love the outlet.

Colin Cowherd (55:53)

I love how y'all treat the artists.

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That come on here.

Colin Cowherd (55:55)

I love how y'all speak to the realization of R B music and R B money.

Tom Brady (56:00)

Snoop Dogg on R B Money.

Colin Cowherd (56:02)

Listen to this episode on the iHeartRadio.

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App, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

Colin Cowherd (56:09)

Welcome to My Legacy.

Tom Brady (56:10)

I'm Martin Luther King III and together.

J. Mac (56:12)

With my wife, Andrea Waters King, and.

Colin Cowherd (56:14)

Our dear friends Mark and Craig Kilberg.

J. Mac (56:16)

We explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives.

Colin Cowherd (56:21)

Join us for heartfelt conversations with remarkable guests like David Oyeloh, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, and Billy Porter. Listen to My legacy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Tom Brady (56:35)

This is My Legacy.

Colin Cowherd (56:39)

I'm so sick of hearing men talk about women's basketball. This is Lexi Brown and Mariah Rose, and we've got a new podcast, Full Circle. Every Wednesday, we're catching you up on what's going on in women's basketball. We've got you with analysis, inside stories and a little bit of tea. Full circle is an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. Listen to Full circle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.