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Learn more@electric for all.org thanks for listening to the Heard podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports radio at noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now let's get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Ah, Matt Hasselbeck spent the weekend combining with Fernando Mendoza. Ty Simpson Got thoughts on all of it? I hope you like Fernando Mendoza as much as I do because I think the kid's really special. I really like him. Well, we do every Monday. Colin was right. Colin was wrong. Let's not waste any time and let's get right to it on a Monday where Colin was right. Well, Byron Scott and I agree. He said last week on an LA radio show it should be LeBron's last season with the Lakers. Listen, the plus minus with LeBron and Luka when they're on the floor is awful. LeBron is now the second slowest player in the NBA, which would be fine if he was surrounded by a young, athletic defensive squad. But he can't assist to hide LeBron's fatal flaw which is conditioning and bad defense. So now Byron Scott, a popular former Laker, has moved to our side where Collin was wrong. I think the Knicks have a low ceiling, but they're fun to watch. Well, the spurs were on an 11 game winning streak and the Knicks dominated them yesterday. Watched every dribble and jump shot. Listen, they forced Wemby into seven turnovers, Wemby 1 for 7 on threes. The Knicks had a very spirited at home defensive effort and I never worry about the Knicks scoring. Brunson and Cat and OG and Bridges, Josh Hart. They got guys who can fill it up. They got a lot of pieces. Their movement yesterday was great on offense, but it was their defensive effort against Wemby and others that stood out where Collin was right. The Vikings are now interested in Anthony Richardson and tua. This shows a clear sign publicly that they've got concerns about J.J. mcCarthy. Now they'll frame it as hey, we just want a spirited competition but they're already 45 million over the cap and they don't want to pay for another player. So, I mean, they, they built this team like the Broncos did of the Bears did with their young quarterback to load up on the roster and they can't because they're going to have to go semi big game hunting. And reportedly three different quarterbacks, including Anthony Richardson are on their radar. Where Colin was wrong, there's a report here the Chiefs are the betting favorites to sign Tyreek Hill. And I don't get it. Been there and done that. Secondly is he's got injury concerns and maturity off field issues and doesn't that kind of sum up what the Chiefs are already dealing with with Rasheed Rice? So I certainly don't think he's a great mentor for young receivers now. He's a home run hitter, but the way people are defending Tyreek Hill, I just don't think that's a primary need. I think it's more running back o line and edge rusher. But the betting market says Tyreek's a chief and I don't really get it. Where Collin was right, well, I felt vindicated. Finally, despite the fact I do think he's an all time great offensive talent, the public and the media is acknowledging, oh, Luka Doncic isn't a perfect player. There's some video out of Luka and JJ Redick this weekend having a confrontation. He doesn't work with LeBron. The constant berating and arguing with officials. Is he committed to the body? There's arguments there and he doesn't necessarily match up well, according to net ratings with LeBron James. All I'm saying is Dallas got on the phone for a reason. Just like Anthony Davis, James Harden. When great players get bounced around and traded, there's usually some reason for it. Where Collin was wrong, I always defended Kyler Murray and the Cardinals desperate for a star quarterback. Reportedly now they're moving on. Listen, I loved how elusive he was. I thought he was a more elusive version than Russell Wilson in his prime. I think he's super athlete. I think he throws a beautiful ball. But you know, there are commitment issues, there are health issues, and the truth is, seven years in, they made the playoffs once in a very good division. True. But I was always a bigger Kyler Murray fan than I think the marketplace. So I'll take an L on that one. Where Colin was right. Steph Curry gonna miss five more games. One of the mantras on this show. Fall in love with your kids. Fall in like with your superstars. Listen, man, I love Steph. This roster is brutal, small, old, fast, Break points, bottom four points in the paint, bottom four. Hey, they shoot three as well. Yeah, most of the league does now as well. And I love Steph Curry. I just like to see him play for a winner. But it feels like they have been trapped for the last three years and they've gone from mediocre to unwatchable. Where Colin was right. I keep telling J. Mac, Malik Willis is going to have a market. There's just, there's six teams that need a quarterback. He's young, 26, he's athletic, and he's accurate. Well, according to a story today, Jeremy Fowler, ESPN says he's not going to get 30 million, but the Jets, Cardinals and Miami Dolphins are going to be options for Malik Willis, who I acknowledge I like him much more than the marketplace. Robert Mays last week agreed with me. There's something here with Willis. If you're a quarterback at Ed team and you're telling me that you're not looking at Malik Willis, you're a liar. And think about how many quarterback needy teams there are and how few avenues there are to those guys. This year, Baker Mayfield signed a one year, full year, $4 million deal to be the Bucks starting quarterback. 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Colin Cowherd
AT&T business Wireless connecting changes everything. Well, we're getting ready for March Madness. St. John's has split with UConn. They came back from 12 down to beat Georgetown last night. They're 24 and 6 and they're a legendary coach. 38 years coaching basketball. Rick Matino is now joining us live. And last night, this is very fun because, you know, we were talking about this a second ago. You know, they want to expand the tournament. And I'm like, it used to be 64. It started on Thursday. I could fill out my bracket. It was easy. And then they've got the first four and it screws me up a little bit. And I don't know about these teams. I like the certain sanctity of like, listen, I'm for inclusion, But I think 64 is a big fat number and 68's a big number. What is your general take on expanding it even further?
Rick Pitino
Well, I guess it would come down to what's the reason for expansion? Is it to make sure a. If a St. Louis is undefeated and people are somehow thinking of not putting them in the tournament if they get knocked out of their bracket? I think that's absurd. You know, any team that goes undefeated, I don't care what level you're at, you deserve an NCAA bid. You got to go on the road in front of a hostile crowd and every single night. And whoever. Maybe Miami of Ohio is another example. Miami of Ohio I think is undefeated. They without question deserve a bit if they go undefeated.
Colin Cowherd
Right? So I think last time I had you on, we talked about this. I think NIL is great for college basketball. And I told Adam Silver when he was on this show, stop demonizing college basketball. The coaching's better, the swag, the nutrition. They get paid now. And the other thing is they have to play in environments that you don't get in the G League. I mean, you're playing in Madison Square Garden, you're playing it in Kansas. These are NBA level intensity. And I'll tell you, last year's draft was great. I mean, it's a. I didn't know Con Canepa was that good. I knew Cooper flag was good. This draft is supposed to be legendary. Are you noticing in the last two or three years what the NIL has done, especially teams like you at the top? Rick, I turned on Michigan, Illinois Friday Michigan is stacked. It looks like the top 10 to 15 teams of which you're part of them are noticeably deeper than five years ago.
Mark Few
Right.
Colin Cowherd
That feels like that.
Rick Pitino
First, the Florida influence with the NBA as well as college. So if you're a great. I coached in ICOs, in the Euroleague. And if you're a basketball player aspiring to go to the Euroleague because the NBA is not right in your reach as a foreign player.
Colin Cowherd
Right.
Rick Pitino
You rather go to college. It pays almost twice more than the euroleague. Unless you are the first or second best player on a euroleague team. The rest of the roster, you could go to college and get paid a lot more money. So college basketball has elevated to a level of great play. Right now you look at Duke, you look at Arizona, you look at Michigan, those are three basketball teams that I look at that can win a national championship because of their incredible talent. Then you have the Connecticuts, the Illinois and people like that that are very, very deep, very well coached, and they could win a national championship. So it's a lot of fun. I've never seen college basketball in the last two years this strong. I've been coaching 50 some odd years. But it would have to go back to the Kareem days, the Walton days, where everybody stayed in school.
Colin Cowherd
You know, I remember though, Bill Walton was arguably the best college basketball player of all time. Went to Portland, won a title with the Blazers and Jack Ramsey, the, you know, European players, the Tony KU coach era. Everybody always said they're soft, they're skilled, but they're soft. Well, now you got. They're not. Jokic is bullying people, Lucas screaming at the officials. Giannis is a physical player. What do you think led because. And now you're facing European players regularly. What do you think led to? You know, and I think some of it was fair, more finesse. European players, they're now very physical. What changed over there?
Rick Pitino
Well, I like European basketball players because they pass, they cut, they really understand how to play ball movement's great. I watched a game and I'm not going to say the team the other night, it's the first time I said, I can't watch this anymore. It was a West coast team in the pros and it was just back to man in back the man and take a fade away jump shot, get beat in transition. And I said, I can't watch any more of this. There was no ball movement, no player movement whatsoever. And in the Europeans, they used to ball movement, player movement.
Mark Few
Yeah.
Rick Pitino
Go to the high post as a center, find the backdoor cutter Set screens, pop out, the ability to shoot the three. For the foreign players on my team, I have a player from Austria, Sweden, Nigeria, Ghana, Portugal, Greece. So it's. The foreign influence is. Is here to stay, but it makes the game so much better because they really understand how to play. Now, most of them defensively can't guard me, but on offense they're great.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, well, they have to play against older men. I mean, to be honest with you. So it's now. Now Steve Kerr has lamented the AAU and, you know, we've had some, you know, domestic players, Ja, Morant, Zion, who were gifted but haven't kind of panned out. Although this year's draft, it looks like the domestic players are crushing. Is there. You know, when Kerr bangs on AAU basketball, I mean, just look at your roster. It's full of European and global players. How is the domestic product to you right now?
Rick Pitino
Well, the easiest thing to do is blame the AAU system. And I'm not one of those people that do that. I would rather blame parents than I would aau. I think parents today are way too involved in their children's careers as far as growing up. The parents need to just sit in the stands, enjoy the game and let the kids develop and develop a love for the game. Twenty years ago, I never dealt with parents. I'm very lucky. I've got parents that are disciplinarians. They get after their kids. But the ones that aren't hurt much more than aau, they want to. Okay, let's go to a different school next year because you can make 300,000 more. No, let's grind it out where you're at and play for Tom Izzo and play for this person and play for this guy because he's going to make you a terrific basketball player with discipline and character.
Colin Cowherd
You know, Rick, it's pretty amazing. You've got players from several continents and I'm sure with some there can be semi language barriers. And yet if you watch St. John's play, defense is all about communication and effort. And your teams play defense. How do. It's kind of fascinating to me. How do you. With some. Sometimes language barriers and, you know, you got older players, younger players. This guy's from Ghana. This guy can be from Chicago. How do you make it? How do you tie the string and make it work?
Rick Pitino
Yeah, one weak link kills your defense. I have a young man, Leftis. He's Greek. I can't say his last name, but I call him Lefty. And I said Lefty. He'll say, look, do me a favor. Communicate defensively. That's the key to our defense. Tell them to down it. Tell them to switch it. Tell them, bring them my way so we can switch it. I said, just talk and communicate defensively. I don't care if you do it in Greek. Open your mouth up and talk defensively. And that's the biggest problem I have with the European basketball players. They don't verbally communicate as much.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. So we're a couple of weeks away from March Madness. The old cliche is it's guard play. And, and you know, it's. I mean, years ago I went back and I looked at the numbers. You don't necessarily have to be playing great going into the tournament. It's a little bit of a myth. We've seen teams that cool off. I remember that Florida Gator, Billy Donovan team, the one back to backs. They lost a game late. If I recall, they flew through the tournament. Fuzzy memory. But if I recall, that's what happened. You tell me last night you almost lose. You come back to Georgetown. Should I look if a guy is filling out a bracket to you, Guard plays essential. What is something in the tournament that guys like me don't discuss but you're always at sneaky important.
Rick Pitino
Well, the first thing you have to look at is free throw percentage. It's always going to come down to making your free throws at the end of a game. And God play is the second most important thing. When you look at, say, Florida right now, Florida right now is a team middle of the season because of all the new players in the backcourt, they weren't playing great. Now they are. And you have to look at Florida as one of the favorites to repeat as national champions because their front court is so good and now their backcourt has come on. So when you look at Florida, Arizona, Michigan and Duke and teams of that caliber, you see they have great God play and they can make their free throws. If you have a team that doesn't make free throws and they can't win six games, can't. Because it's going to come down to free throws in about 40, 50% of the games.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. You know, a lot of guys, Roy Williams, coach K. Jay Wright, they're like, yeah, I'm done. I did it. And you're like, no, I'm. I'm going to go to St. John's I'm going to go play at Madison. I think you've had like 10 or 11 games at the MSG. You have great energy still. You're smiling, you're happy. Do you think some of your ability to remain viable is the fact that you're not a. You don't. You have an interesting balance. I don't see a lot of rigidity, but I do see you're demanding. You're demanding without rigidity. And I think it's part of your personality. I mean, it's. Why have you lasted this long and why do you still have great energy?
Rick Pitino
Well, I think I took two years off of coaching, I didn't think I was going to get back in the game and wound up going upon a tiny coast in Greece and had a blast doing that. I think being adaptable is key. I'm coaching 50 years now. I met with one of my players, Joe San Simone the other day and I said, listen, Joe, I may be 73, but I act like I'm 43. I've heard every story from every player. There's nothing you can tell me that I haven't heard. I said, so if you got a problem, if you want to get something off your chest, tell me. I'm going to act like a 43 year old for you. So, you know, I think I can adjust to just about anything. Because you have to adjust today. You, you see it all the time in the game. I've seen the game change from Bobby Knight total motion to a triangle offense that we saw Phil Jackson in the NBA. Look at. Everybody would copy the triangle offense. Now it's big men stepping away from the basket and shooting threes, playing five out of. So it's all changed. But you have to change with the times because it's all different. No different than the NFL. The way the NFL game is played, it used to be running back off tackle, Jim Brown running off tackle and taking people with him. And now it's wideouts more than anything else. So all the sports change. The coaches that don't want to change get out. And I wasn't ready to get out because I took two years off and my golf wasn't very good. Some of the things going to the racetrack, I was losing too much money. So I like to keep the money in my pocket and coach basketball.
Colin Cowherd
Were you betting the ponies in Greece, by the way?
Rick Pitino
No, no, this was in Miami. I was going once or twice a week to Gulf Stream and giving my deposit to them to keep the economy moving.
Colin Cowherd
Beautiful part of Florida, by the way. Rick, as always, an absolute pleasure. Great stuff. Good luck to St. John's Thanks, Colin,
Rick Pitino
good speaking with you.
Colin Cowherd
All right. Always entertaining. I mean, he's just got great energy. It's like you can see why he can recruit. He's got great energy and I love. He's got players from Ghana overseas, he's got players from here. That's fun. J Mac Gotta hit your free throws, cross the T's, dot the I's and hit your free throw. Glean any information for your tournament. Yeah, I'm going to fade his gambling ponies picks and become extremely wealthy.
Rick Pitino
I will say your point about the energy.
Colin Cowherd
I wanted to look up his age. 73 years old. That's impressive. You know a lot of our elected officials they get late 70s and it's
Mark Few
like oh boy here we go.
Colin Cowherd
This guy at 73, he's still got it now St. John's not a bad team this year. No, it's not bad at all. They split with Yukon. Indeed. There you go. We got a lot of stuff. Oh I got a top of next hour. Not messing around. Very excited for this, my mock draft. I fired up. I'm going to throw you a curveball at the number two pick and it makes a lot of sense. Don't scoff the number two pick. Don't believe what you're reading on these mock drafts. I'll tell you what the jets are going to do and what they should do that's coming up one more herd. The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. This is not a traditional mock draft. I do this every year. I do one where, you know, I try to guess what teams do but my take is I don't know. Nobody does outside of the number one pick this year. Everybody knows that. So I am going to draft based on what I would do as general manager and I think it will look mostly like the first 15 picks. I'm going to go 15 picks. So let's start with the number one pick. That's the easiest one. The Raiders need a quarterback. Fernando Mendoza is easily the best quarterback prospect. Is he Matt Ryan plus Heisman winner 16 and oh to non traditional power, big arm moves. Well, humble gratitude and you get that rookie quarterback contract for the next four to five years. So that's the easy one. He goes number one. My second pick is a little different than everybody else's mock. I think the jets draft David Bailey the best. Pure edge. He'll walk into the Jets. On one side you'll have Will McDonald on the other it's David Bale. I hear about Arvl Reese. Arvell Reese projects as an edge rusher. I don't trust the jets to get that right. This guy is a plug play guy. He will be starting the first week. David Bailey from Texas Tech. He went to Stanford. Then he was on the market. Texas Tech got out the wallet. He is an immediate play. Day one edge rusher Number three Arizona. I think Arizona should call on Fernando Mendoza but their O line is a wreck. They have a new offensive coach. What do offensive coaches like Ben Johnson do? Solve the offensive line. Francis Mauinoa from Miami. He can play interior or tackle. They may use him at both. The Cardinals had the 26 ranked offensive line. He is solid in run and pass blocking. An offensive coach. They've got receivers and backs and tight ends. They have got to get that O line solved. Whether Jacoby Brissette or rumored Jimmy Garoppolo as the quarterback. Number four Arvell Reese. Now again many have him at two to the Jets. I don't trust the Jets. I do trust Robert Sala to use him in maybe a little bit of a hybrid. Fred Warner Nick Bosa role I trust. I think he's just too talented to fall. And again he's 64244 Titans only had one player with more than five sacks last year. So I think he's just too talented for Robert Sala to pass on. They've got their quarterback and they've got other needs but I think they go get the Ohio State edge. Number five Giants. This is a good pick for them. They need secondary help. Caleb Downs best safety in the draft. I mean can you know he's pretty good in coverage. You can bring him as you see here on on blitzes like Nick Almond Worry who went to the Seahawks second round out of South Carolina. He is a true tremendous player. John Harbaugh is going to love him. You can play him probably special teams in defense. Day one ranked giants were a an atrocious team last year. 31st against the run. This kid didn't even have to perform at the combine. He is that good. Giants who I have projected as winning their division get the number one back end defensive player in the draft. Caleb Downs. Another Buckeye number six Cleveland Browns Carnell Tate played at Ohio State. Their receiving cores a mess. Shador Sanders probably get and Shadore Sanders capable of throwing the ball down the field. But Jerry Judy is inconsistent. Drop issues, maturity issues. Carnell Tate kind of feels like a can't miss guy to me. I mean I don't think there's many can't miss guys in the draft. I can't believe. If not for Cleveland, somebody else. A lot of Buckeyes at the top. I think he walks in. Jerry Judy one side, Carnell Tate on the other. They had an atrocious, I mean their leading receiver last year was a rookie tight end from Bowling Green, Carnell Tate to the Browns. Number seven. Best corner in the draft is out of lsu. Mansoor Delane. I think the commanders who have many issues, they were a really bad team. Was Washington against the pass. He Excelsior outside the numbers in man coverage. I mean LSU has always been a cornerback in a wide receiver factory. Great instincts, excellent length, Best corner in the draft for a team Washington that needs it. He goes at seven. Number eight. Tighter. Schuck was surprisingly good for the Saints. Rookie quarterback, second round pick. I think they get Jeremiah Love. He's the Jameer Gibbs of this draft. A home run hitter. I mean Alvin camara is now 30 and rushed for under 500 yards. And they were not a good run team. They were near the bottom 28th in the NFL against the run. So Love is a again like David Bailey at number two. He's a plug and play guy. Put him in run game with a second year quarterback. They couldn't run last year. Alvin Kamara's aging. He goes to The Saints at 8. Number 9. The Chiefs who made that Trent McDuffie trade with the Rams today, they have two first rounders. I think the Chiefs go and get Spencer Fano out of Utah. Right tackle. So they've got their left tackle. They don't have a right tackle. He was, I mean Utah has arguably two of the best tackles in the whole draft. They were 25th in rushing, 28th in pressure. So they've got a, they've got a lot of needs right now in Kansas City, but I think number one is protecting Patrick Mahomes and getting that running game going. So if Love falls to them, I could see them taking Love from Notre Dame. If not, they'll go with a right tackle from Utah, number 10, Cincinnati. My guess is they'll take a Buckeye Sonny Styles, who had an unbelievable combine. Trey Hendrickson's out the door. He's. He can play. I mean Sonny Styles is one of those guys. He was a combine monster. You know, on any other team he would have been the best player easily. But on Ohio state he's the third or fourth best player. You know, 6, 5, 2, 45, runs a 4, 4, you know, typical Buckeye elite five star level talent. So I think he stays in State. Number 11, dolphins, Reuben Bain, I think drops to Miami. I think they'll have some pressure to go get a a guy with short arms historically, but he's just a baller, he's a playmaker. And the Hurricane fan base is going to absolutely love this. Miami doesn't get pressure on the quarterback. They were 25th in the NFL last year in getting pressure on the quarterback. And you know, I don't know how good Ruben Bane is with the arm issue, but I know every time I watched Miami play he was unblockable, a relentless player, kind of a Max Crosby engine, kind of a game changer up front. So I think Miami grabs him at number 12 and I think this will be one of the early steals in the draft. The Dallas Cowboys will get Keldrick Falk from Auburn. A great character guy. Just got me was like all SEC freshman team. He's been good for years at Auburn, very good against the run. Character guy in the building. And I think they're sensitive to that and Dallas because I think, you know, Dak Prescott high character guy has always been somebody that Jerry Jones liked. Micah Parsons viewed as a little into Micah. This kid is great. They need an edge rusher, he can defend the run in the pass. He's a grinder, he's a character guy. I think he goes to the Cowboys and they get themselves a little bit of a first round steal. Number 13, La Rams. I think they go Makai Lemon now they've got needs at tackle, but Lemon can solve two issues. Devonte Adams is 33, so he's the heir apparent to Devonte Adams. This kid is unbelievable. If he gets his hand on it, he catches it. You know, there, there's a lot of these recruits that don't pan out. He has been sensational and over delivered for the Trojans and I think between Devonte Adams age, they also want to clean up their punt returning. He's got impeccable hands, almost 100 yards per game for the Trojans. Number 14. I think the Ravens, they're going to have to pay Lamar Jackson, they get to find some guys on that offense that don't cost much. Kenyon Sadiq from Oregon who just had the fastest 40 time ever for a tight end, he's a little undersized, but remember Isaiah likely the Ravens tight end is a free agent. Mark Andrews is getting older and they were top three in the NFL in 12 personnel. They like to use multiple tight ends. You know, the Rams do, the Ravens do. So I think the Oregon tight end who's undersized but a little bit of a bully. He's hard to hard match up for corners and safeties. He goes to The Ravens and number 15, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They've got several needs edge rusher among them Texas A and M. Cassius Howell first team all American at Texas A and M. It is a good edge rusher draft he is a need of which they have you know they have a need at corner linebacker edge they got to rebuild that defense. So There is my first 15 draft. 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Subject to change details@lowes.com terms same day delivery valid in select zip codes subject to driver availability details@lowes.com samedaydelivery we had rick Pitino on yesterday and he was great. And by Gonzaga standards, even though they've won, I think 22 at 23, they're 28 and three. They're kind of under the radar for Gonzaga standards. And Mark Few, who has a pretty high standard himself, two time national coach of the year. You know, I had Patino on yesterday. He's a pretty good coach. I'm not sure you heard of him. He's a pretty good coach. And I asked him, I said, you know, a lot of these guys get older and they get out of this business and I'm like, you're still firing away. And he's like, listen, you got to adapt. He goes, I've got guys from Ghana and Europe. He's got five continents and you still have amazing energy. And I think knowing you a little bit, I think one of the things you're good is adaptability. So. And Pitino kind of laughed at it. He was like, I got so many European players. Give me if I said to you over the last three years, Mark, you've had to make, you've had to adapt with something with the nil and transfer, what is the one thing you've had to totally adapt to?
Mark Few
Well, first of all, great job kissing up to the bosses and name dropping in the last 45 seconds. Mission accomplished. Well, awesome question. Hard to maybe say. The one thing I would say kind of the, you know, as, you know, following us all these years, we redshirt guys and we have them in our program 3, 4, 5.
Colin Cowherd
Yep.
Mark Few
Years. And that was the standard. Right? And now kind of looking around, I got a bunch of one year Guys that are either freshmen or transfers and maybe a two year guy here and there. But yeah, just the general continuity in college basketball and that can be, you know, also due to guys leaving early for the NBA and all that. But that's been the hardest thing I think is just always fighting for your culture even. Even though, like you're looking around and like you got to explain it to these guys.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Mark Few
You know, and they haven't experienced it yet.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. You know, your front court scoring is big this year. Not as much in the back court. And when I think of Gonzaga, I kind of always think of balance from the bench on. But it feels like to me a lot of your scoring this year is front court instead of back court. Does that, you know, everybody talks about guard play in the tournament. Does that concern you at all?
Mark Few
Yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah, it does. And our, our backcourt play has been, you know, spectacular at times and then not so spectacular at times. And so it does. But you know, I think back to your point about adaptability. I think, you know, over the years we've been front court dominated, we've been back court dominated. We've been great balance dominated. If you think of that 21 team and you know, this year we got a fantastic interior player in Graham Ek. We had two of them with Braden Huff and Graham Ike. I think that's probably Colin been the biggest story to us this year. We've never faced the level of adversity via injuries that we have this year. I mean, Braden Huff's a national caliber award guy and for him to be out this long and then we, we've lost Jaylen Worley and we even lost Ek for a while.
Colin Cowherd
Yep.
Mark Few
So it's been really strange.
Colin Cowherd
Patino was saying yesterday with the NIL bringing kids from Europe over that he doesn't remember college basketball being this deep and strong. I watched Michigan last Friday play Illinois. It's like an NBA. They're huge. So you got, you guys played them and got kind of rolled. I mean, I, I don't sure how you prepare for them. What did you make of Michigan, the odds on favorite?
Mark Few
Well, they were terrific the night we played them. The one thing they did that night that I think is they're just their slightest little hiccup in their, you know, team. And it's not really even a hiccup, but they shot the ball extremely well. They shot the COVID off it against us and Dusty even said so afterwards. But their size, you're so right, is, I mean, it's NBA level size quite frankly, with the bodies and everything. They're playing, you know, Luxembourg at the three, you know, and he's probably six, nine, two, 50 or something, and great size around the rim. Great plan. Move the ball really well. They were spectacular in transition back then. And again, you know, in that game, you're three games in three days. You don't really have a whole lot of time to prepare for them. The teams in their league have started to kind of game plan for them a little bit.
Rick Pitino
Bit.
Mark Few
And they're good. Tommy. My old assistant Tommy Lloyd's having a great year at Arizona. They're very, very good. There's some really, really nice teams out there. When we get totally healthy, I think we can compete with any of them, you know. But in the meantime, I give this group a lot of credit. Man, we've just been hanging in there, winning games, even though we've been down some pretty key personnel.
Colin Cowherd
By the way, I was thinking about you the other day because Krzyzewski put you in. Bayheim, you know, you guys were the Olympic coaches. You guys have always, you know, you and Bayheim are close, and Boeheim got a lot of crap. But I'll say this for Bayheim, he leaves Syracuse. Well, what happened to Syracuse? There are. And I asked you once about John Calipari, and you're like, you guys, he's a great coach. It's funny that people get certain labels in coaching. And now all you college guys, I think college feels a little more pro with all the international stuff. Has it changed you as a coach? Dealing? Sometimes there's language barriers a lot of the European guys aren't used to. They're not as good defensively. Patino said, some of these guys couldn't guard me. Has it changed you as a coach?
Mark Few
No. I mean, I think I hate to just, you know, as, you know, just throw out stereotypes and generalize. You know, Sabonis was a fierce, fierce, tough as they come. You know, Ranowski was, you know, made as big impact on the defensive end as anybody. Might even been defensive player player of the year. And that year he should have been. So, you know, it's individual to individual. I would say, having done and have all the great experiences with USA Basketball, this high turnover rate to what you said, the adaptability. Boy, you sure learn from those guys. You know, how to adapt with just, you know, their rosters are always changing at the NBA level, and guys are out and load managing and. And doing all this. That's really helped, I think, and just maybe, maybe a little more patience. And maybe understanding that, hey, you know, we're not going to click, like maybe our 21 team did or our 19 team or whatever. But you know, there's some things we do really, really well that are a little different maybe than some of those teams. We're a really, really good defensive team this year. It's a little bit underrated.
Colin Cowherd
We the nil. Has it made some players harder to coach?
Mark Few
You know, I was really leery of that and watching it really closely and I. In my experience. No, you know, I mean, it's just. Now listen, man, it is a royal pain in the rear here when we hit the off season like you wouldn't believe because literally we have no rules. I mean, you could sign with me tomorrow and then, you know, sign with somebody else a week from now. And. And so there's. We literally have no rules right now. I think that's the hardest thing, this roster building. But you know what, Once, like practice, once you get into your mode, you have your team in the fall and you start practicing. I haven't noticed any difference along those lines. You know, there is Colin, though. This. There is the difference of, you know, I mean, you just, you're not maybe quite as hard on guys as used to be back in the past, challenging them and stuff.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Because they can bail. But you know, you, I mean, you don't recruit. I mean, you don't recruit a lot of high maintenance guys. I mean. Yeah, you don't, you don't have. That's not really your. I mean, if you go to Gonzaga, you got to leave your ego at the door. I mean, I, you know. Right.
Mark Few
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, and listen, I now to go into shameless self promotion or something here, but we had, we have this wonderful documentary that just was done on Gonzaga basketball and they premiered it the other night and I watched it and it brought home so many of these points of what our program's all about, you know, and one of it was that was, you know, we don't deal with high maintenance and you know, you're here to, you know, there's a culture here and there's a family atmosphere here. There's a work ethic here that's just innate and everybody just kind of buys into it and, and it was great to have our current guys sit through that thing and watch it. So many of them, you know, you think they know it, but they don't. And I don't want to bore you, but the best story I got out of that, we have a transfer Ty on Grant Foster. And I said, ty, what was the biggest thing you took out of that? And he's like, coach, man, I couldn't believe Adam Morrison was at the thing last night, you know, And I was like, ty, you know, he's our radio guy and is at half our meals on the road and walking around here, and he's around the gym. He's like. I didn't even recognize him. He remembered him with long hair and a mustache, and he had no idea. I don't know. So sometimes it's good to be just reminded of what this place has been all about, what it stands for and why we've kind of had the run we've had.
Colin Cowherd
I don't even know how old you are. You're in great shape, and you're like. You work out and you bike everywhere. How long are you going to do this?
Mark Few
Oh, man, as long as it's. It's still, you know, something. I'd say something that you enjoy and how can you not enjoy, you know, being around athletics like you. You know, like, you, too. You know, we're around. You get to talk about it. You're around it all the time. You know, I. I would say when. As long when I quit feeling like maybe I'm having as big impact on them and, And. And not, you know, helping them grow as much as. As you can. I'd say that would be.
Colin Cowherd
That.
Mark Few
That's going to be the big kind of flexion point for me.
Colin Cowherd
Who's the best player you play this year in the sport? Single best player you faced?
Mark Few
Oh, man, Luxembourg was terrific against us. He hit the first jump shot right in front of me and. And was just. Physically, I thought he was. He was the best. We haven't, you know, teed it up against any of these freshmen. They're having some great years, but, you know, there's some veterans out there that are having some great years that I think are getting a little overlooked with all this freshman hype.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Hey, do you. I'm not into this tournament expansion. I don't like it. I don't even like the first four. Nonsense. Start on Thursday. 64 teams. I'm good. Don't confuse my small brain. I don't want it. What do you make of. What do you make of expansion?
Mark Few
I'm with you on it. I don't think it needs to be watered down anymore, and I don't want to dilute the regular season. I want this last month where people are really sweating it and scratching to get into this thing and make it Something that's really, really prestigious to get into. To have your name called on Selection Sunday. That's still a big thing to me. To see Gonzaga pop up there on, on Selection Sunday. And I think, you know, adding more is just going to water it down.
Colin Cowherd
His winning percentage is 83%. That's pretty good. Oh, you see, Kevin Durant said he plans to play in the Olympics in Los Angeles. You know KD pretty well. What was he like to coach?
Mark Few
Awesome. Just awesome. Awesome guy. Just a wonderful player and just a great teammate. He was so great as a teammate and the synergy between him and Anthony Edwards was just priceless. Anthony Edwards, you know, grew up idolizing KD and they were kind of on the floor together a lot with one of our groups and it was fun to watch even Aunt kind of defer to him a little bit and get such great joy when he saw KD hit a jumper and just, you know, Steph's threes and, you know, Lou Alcindor Skyhook. Kevin Durant's pull up, man has to go down as one of the most legendary, you know, iconic shots in all of basketball history. I think it's as about as automatic as you can get.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I said if you take out centers and you had an all time one on one tournament, I would take KD to even beat MJ because I don't think MJ could stop him and I don't think, I don't think LeBron could shoot with him. I think KD individually is as good an offensive player. I'm not talking about, you know, I don't want Shaq in my one on one tournament or Kareem. But if you took all the other players, I've never seen a guy score. Maybe you have because you coach pros and it looks so easy. You can give him the ball in the last second and a half of the shot clock. He gets an effortless jumper.
Mark Few
He can get it off on anybody anytime he wants. You know, you can get that shot off no matter what defense you're in. But, but let's pause for a, let's not discount, you know, LeBron. And one on one, he's still got that heart, he's still got that brain, he's still got that toughness. I wouldn't count him out on any sport where you're keeping score.
Colin Cowherd
Mark Few, Gonzaga coach, as always, you know, it's okay to suck up to your bosses once in a while. You're a powerful coach. You don't have to suck up to your ad I'm still just trying to get by here and get a check. All right. We're in different worlds.
Mark Few
Yeah, right. Killing it in the ratings thing. Demanding a move to Chicago. Like I say, you're doing okay for yourself. Congratulations, dude. Hey, I'm going to the state tournament today in Washington. You remember those days.
Colin Cowherd
Where is it? At St. Mary's UPS, Tacoma Dome.
Mark Few
Tacoma Dome. So, yeah, I figured you'd remember those days back in the old stomping grounds.
Colin Cowherd
Oh, yeah. Boy, I'd get on a heater. You couldn't stop me, that's for sure. A little crossover pull up couldn't stop me.
Mark Few
Kd, like, all right.
Colin Cowherd
That's right. Good seeing you, Mark.
Mark Few
Yeah, you, too, Colin.
Colin Cowherd
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Episode Date: March 7, 2026
Theme: Insightful commentary on the week’s biggest sports stories, in-depth college basketball discussion with Rick Pitino & Mark Few, and a mock NFL Draft.
This “Best of the Week” episode of The Herd features Colin Cowherd’s candid opinions on the latest in the NBA and NFL, focusing on both trending stories and long-standing debates in the sports world. The highlights include Colin's famed "Where Colin Was Right, Where Colin Was Wrong," candid interviews with elite college basketball coaches Rick Pitino (St. John’s) and Mark Few (Gonzaga), and a detailed look at his 2026 NFL mock draft. The episode is rich in industry insight, offering balanced analysis on changing trends in both professional and college sports.
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Colin maintains his signature blend of strong opinion, humor, and willingness to self-correct (“I’ll take an L on that one” – about Kyler Murray). The show is dynamic and conversational, blending analysis with personal anecdotes and banter—especially evident in coach interviews and in his interplay with producers and guests.
This “Best of the Week” showcases The Herd’s blend of hard-hitting sports commentary, candid expert interviews, and playful insider banter. The episode is especially insightful for listeners interested in the ongoing transformation of college basketball, the dynamics of coaching in the modern era, and serious NFL Draft conversation. Both Rick Pitino and Mark Few provide masterclass perspectives on adaptability, culture, and the internationalization of the college game, rounding out a show that’s as entertaining as it is informative.