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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Colin Cowherd Podcast - Bears Overperforming, Sam Darnold’s Turnaround, Favorite NFL Bets, World Series Is Must Watch TV
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Colin Cowherd
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Danny Parkins
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Colin Cowherd
The volume.
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Colin Cowherd
Sure.
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Danny Parkins
They got the coach and the quarterback. The defense stinks. We still don't like the owner. The front office, I doubt. I love the coach, the quarterback, super talented. There's a lot they're not doing right. But like a political party, the Bears now lead the NFL in big plays. That's good for me. And isn't it? They're a flawed team from ownership down, but they got the two things that appears right.
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Colin Cowherd
Absolutely. There's no question. I mean, the. The one I always say, because it's a fun turn of phrase is like, the Bengals were the bungles until they got Joe Burrow. You know, the Chiefs didn't win a single game with a quarterback they drafted since Todd Blacklidge. And then it was Patrick Mahomes, you know, so, like, it can change on a dime. And I find it to be amazing that the Bears are fourth and rushing, fourth in yards, sixth and scoring crazy back in an explosive plays. And everyone's like, is Caleb good? I'm like, and by the way, to be fair, to be fair, as someone who's watched every snap of every game closer than any team in the NFL, like they, they got some of those numbers got fat against Dallas and Cincinnati. Objectively true. And some of the explosive play stuff is running game based and they've been much better running out of the by Washington, New Orleans, Baltimore and then the game last week. But so it's not all because of Caleb. Caleb's not playing as well as Drake May. Caleb's not playing as well as Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes. But if you told me 25 games into his career on his third play caller and second head coach that they would have by the numbers, a top 10 offense and a winning record in year two, 100% of Bears fans would have signed up for it.
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Danny Parkins
That's what I always tell whenever my wife's getting a little concerned about our kids, I'm like, if I'd have told you 20 years ago when we met, none of them would be in jail. None would have a drug problem. We'd have a vacation home and a nice house and our kids would still call us. Would you have signed up for it? Yes. Then don't worry about tomorrow. It's all good. Think about this. So my take is every NFL offense has a hole. Let me give an example. I'm going to give you the best offenses in the NFL. Two weeks ago, what you thought. Green Bay today they have no offensive identity. These are the better offenses. The Rams, Puka's always hurt and Stafford has no mobility. Philadelphia depends on the game in the half. Denver, terrible offense for three quarters every single game. San Francisco battle line totally. Christian McCaffrey dependent. Indianapolis. Does anybody like Daniel Jones? I just named the good offenses in the NFL.
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Colin Cowherd
Right, Right.
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Danny Parkins
So the truth is we pay so much attention to offense, Danny. That and I'm guilty of this. We nitpick. The Bears big plays, run the ball, well coached. Take it.
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Colin Cowherd
I no doubt, no doubt. And, and, and I have, I came into the year with optimism but with zero percent like they're a contender or they're going to win the Super Bowl. So to me this season has been, it's been a little bit of like heart attack inducing. I might say some things during these Bear games that if like anyone other than like Nick Wright was next to me, I'd Be like that might get me canceled. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's a stressful watch, but I have no illusions that this is a great team. Like the, the defense is flawed, the quarterback is young. It's a new system that they've got. They've had serious left tackle questions. Their two best cornerbacks are hurt. We don't know if Jalen Johnson is coming back like this year. He'll come back eventually, obviously. Like, they're not going to win the Super Bowl. They probably won't make the playoffs, though they might. We'll see. Because weird things happen in the NFL. But again, like, do you have the coach and quarterback? I can work with that.
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Danny Parkins
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Because. Because they also, it's not just like the. They got a lot of talent. I hear you this all the time. Like, Odunze is talented, Loveland is talented. Their right tackle, Darnell Wright looks like a stud for each.
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Danny Parkins
DeAndre Swift is an excellent top 12 back.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, Manon guy who is. Has been great the last, you know, game and a half since Swift has been hurt. Looks, looks good. Like they, they have pieces, they have talent and they on the up and up. And Caleb, he gives them a ceiling that feels kind of limitless because of how crazy the physical talent is. Like if Ben Johnson can actually get him to be 90% of what his talent suggests that he should be, the Bears are going to be good for the next decade.
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Danny Parkins
Yeah, you know, I was, I said years ago, I was on this. I think one of my favorite things in sports is trying to find a trend before it gets discussed nationally. I love doing that. Sometimes I hit, sometimes I miss. I don't care. It's not about being right. It's about just kind of trying to see around a corner and go, I think this is a problem. So I started this about five years ago. I said the downside to building a league to protect the quarterbacks and being totally quarterback centric and I started this five years ago is if you don't have a quarterback, you're unwatchable. And right now, seven of the teams in the NFL, seven of 32, you're getting into, what is that, 21, 22% your math year than me. Jets, Saints, Browns, Titans, Raiders, Washington. Now that Jaden Daniels is hurt, Giants are no day at the beach. If they get beat this weekend by the Bears, seven of 32 teams, it's becoming the NBA where your bottom six to seven are not only bad, they're bad to watch. And I never. So I think my downside to the NFL because I do think it's by far and away the most embraceable, watchable, betable, viewable league is as the league becomes so quarterback dependent if you don't have one and even if you do and he's not protected by a good old line, you're in big trouble. There is a lot of bad football in that one o' clock window and we are increasingly seeing bad football in the Sunday night game and the Monday night game.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, well you never know when you're going to get a good slate and you never know when you're going to get a bad slate. Like everyone in the world was down on Caleb and they were playing Joe Flacco and it was the game of the week. Like like you, you met like the teams that you said that had the bad quarterbacks. Like one of them was Washington. And yeah, it's because Jaden Daniels is hurt, but no Washington fan is. Like we don't have our quarterback. Like we might have some questions because he's already had four injuries in his career but he was in the NFC championship game as a rookie. Like it's not like commanders fans can't have reason to like buy the jersey of their quarterback. I can tell you that Giants fans are buying the hype on Jackson Dart what the NFL does because it's A There are 32 teams and there are not 32. Patrick Mahomes is so, it's so quarterback dependent. Like there are not enough great ones for the job. That's true. But the NFL has done such an unbelievable job of selling hope and parody and worst to first and it's such an obsessed draft culture more than any other league combined by far, multiplied by a million, that like two days ago was what a top five day for a Jets fan in the last decade? Because you've just convinced yourself, okay, we've got five first round picks in the next two years. We'll find our quarterback. Now the odds say they'll find their next Zach Wilson, but like it is still an exciting thing for a Jets fan. So like on a week to week basis like sure is. Can you get a bad Monday night game? Hell, we're going to get the Cowboys in a primetime window at I think it's like five of the next seven weeks with Thanksgiving Sunday Night Football and they might end up being awful. We'll see. But in general I just think NFL fans are so conditioned to like believe in hype and believe in hope that I don't think anyone really tunes out their team.
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Danny Parkins
So I thought it was, I thought, one of the real interesting things, and this has been pretty well chronicled, that the best players in the NBA are now international. And international players, though gracious and gifted, more skilled than any we've ever had, often don't move them. The needle that, you know, a Jokic or a Wemby or an SGA maybe remarkable players, but I don't know. We like our domestic guys. We like our MJ's and our Kobe's and our and our LeBrons. We like personalities. Magic always smiled, Kareem didn't. Kareem was stoic. People didn't really like him. Magic was all smiles. People loved him. Bird was feisty and blue collar. Resonated. Dr. J was cool. Resonated. International guys don't. Yet in baseball, a world series got 27 million viewers in the United States with one city. Toronto's ratings don't count and the two best players were Japanese. And I thought about this. How do you reconcile that? So international players, I thought they didn't really move the needle. One American team was not one city only was involved in the ratings. NBA had two and baseball virtually doubled it or got a significantly higher number. Now, some would argue that Manfred speeding up the game has helped the sport. Clearly, I think on the margins 8 to 10%, not 40 to 50%, but it's made it much more consumable. You could argue the Dodgers are just the most interesting team since the Yankees with Jeter. I noticed that two years ago when the Dodgers went to Yankee Stadium for a series, the one TE Oscar Hernandez crushed. There were Dodger hats everywhere. It was unbelievable. How do you explain two best players are international, doesn't work in the NBA, works in baseball. Or are we looking at a warriors like dynasty that is just fascinating to everybody in the country.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I think there's a few things. Dodgers are a huge brand. Like, it doesn't surprise me that Dodgers hats in New York, like, they, they used to be here, you know, So I mean, seriously, like, it's, it's an old man's game. And the Brooklyn Dodgers, like that's a thing that's passed down. So I think that, that the Dodgers, you know, Yankees, Dodgers, Cubs, Red Sox, those are like the brands that seemingly everybody cares about that kind of transcend the sport. Then you add in Ohtani and this Babe Ruth thing, you add in that live sports are crushing. Right. Everything else is struggling. Yeah, like everything is struggling. Live sports are crushing. And it was, I do think there is something too, that was just awesome. Sports yeah, like that series was great. Like the, the 18 inning game crossed over, you know, like that. I think, I think that that really helped the series. It was like, wait, what happened? There was a game that went 18 innings and all of the highlights and like that, that was, that felt like a football level event, like a water cooler event that. I don't know if people have water coolers at their place of business anymore. But like, you know what I mean? Like it was the type, it was the type of thing that people. My wife could not care less about baseball. She, the next day was like, did you, what time did you come to bed? It came into her orbit, you know what I mean? And so I think that that game early in the series all of a sudden made people feel like, I can't miss anything else in this series because I missed that all time thing. And then game six was awesome. And so it set up for game seven to be this much must watch thing. So I think it was a, a perfect storm of events. And I mean, listen, last year was Yankee, Yankees, Dodgers, and this one beat it. Yes, that's a, that's a great story for baseball to be able to.
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Danny Parkins
No New York market, no other domestic market. I also think game six and seven were late inning, fantastic. They were just, I mean it's, I love the fact that Dave Roberts pulled every weird lever and they all worked, all of them.
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Colin Cowherd
It was man, baseball, the tension of baseball is so, listen, playoff hockey, the tension rises. Game 7 in any sport, NCAA tournament, single elimination, right? And when elimination's on the line, the tension is high. I used to say, like, I love sports so much that like I'll watch anything if it's the highest stakes. World Series of Darts, bowling, right? Like if it's the highest stakes and the best of the best. But it's, but it's baseball. It's America's pastime. And you're like this, you're going to give me great baseball in a game six and a game seven with a little David and Goliath feel. Not that the Blue Jays, like looked like underdogs in the series. They arguably outplayed the Dodgers, but just, it was like the big bad Dodgers, the dynasty. And then this team that was just mashing. It was, I couldn't look away. It was compelling sports theater. Like, I know they, they would never have it go up against the NFL, but like I would have chosen game seven of that World Series over an NFL game if confronted with the choice. And I'm a 10 times bigger NFL fan. Than I am baseball fan.
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Danny Parkins
Oh, no. I watched multiple playoff games in October over football games. And I'm a football guy. There's no question. And I, you know, and I've said this before is there are just certain things that are like. And I. College basketball, that opening weekend is magical. But it's really hard to get me in November, you know, or, you know, the Maui Invitational isn't moving me to a TV set. It's the same in baseball. Regular season, it's a bit tedious, but baseball's one of those things for about six weeks. It's fascinating. And I do think there's a, there's a chess component. I like architecture. You're very good with math and betting. There's like an architecture and a build and of the drama, you know, it's almost like the two minute drill in football happens in baseball for nine innings. You're getting these constant stakes on every batter.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I think my thing with baseball, Boog Shombi, great play by play guy. Buddy of mine does the, you know, does the World Series for ESPN radio, but is now locally for the Cubs. So I gotten to know him over the past few years. He said this thing and he likes to think about the game and rules and tinker with it. He's smart guy, thoughtful guy. He said, you know, if we created baseball tomorrow, we wouldn't make it 162 games. Like, it's just, it's an outdated.
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Danny Parkins
That's right.
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Colin Cowherd
And, and so what's the math of it is that 1 of 162 is statistically meaningless.
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Danny Parkins
Right.
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Colin Cowherd
But then when you take that sport and then you inject it into like game seven or best of five, it's like, oh my God. Now, now a baseball game feels like the nfc, like a divisional round game feels like the NFC championship game, you know. And so I think that juxtaposition of it goes from like meaningless to the most meaningful is why it's great. I want to ask you though, about the, your, what you said about the international guys in the NBA. What do you think will happen? Like say LeBron retires at the end of the year.
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Danny Parkins
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
And then you have Luca on the Lakers.
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Danny Parkins
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Because you have you, sga, Oklahoma City, Giannis, Milwaukee, Jokic, Denver. If you take international player, international superstar.
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Danny Parkins
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
With global brand.
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Danny Parkins
Right.
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Colin Cowherd
Do you think he will be less impactful than an American star on the Lakers? Or will the Lakers brand plus his brilliance kind of overrule, be an exception to your international question?
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Danny Parkins
It's a good question. I Think the Lakers brand with Luka will be fascinating. I think NBA may become a little bit more regional and local. And that was baseball's problem until the Yankees and the Dodgers and the Cubs. The Cubs, a national team, kind of brought everybody back into the tent. And then Rob Manfred quick, you know, making rule changes to speed the game up. More baserunners, defensive shift out. That brought more people back into the game. It's gone in stages, right? This dynasty just started two years ago. The rule changes, a lot of them started three and four years ago. So everything was percolating, percolating. Here come the Dodgers to dominate. Bang. The numbers gigantic. So the baseball right now, today, Danny, feels more national than it has in forever. The NBA has gone the other way. Without the dynasties. It's gone baseball's direction where it feels a little bit more local. Luka and the Lakers could make that feel more national. Or a Knicks championship. But it's interesting, Boston. And this is why I say that this is not a criticism of the NBA. It's gotten very local. And the example I would give is the Celtics championship. That's the second biggest brand. It got a terrible number. The Celtics did with MVP level. Jayson Tatum from Duke. So the biggest college brand, the second biggest NBA brand, got a crap number. So what's happened to me is NBA's gotten more local and regional with the dismantling of the dynasties. Baseball in three or four years has gotten more national. They've switched spots. And the ultimate payout for that is in the championship where the NBA numbers dip and the baseball numbers surge. Does that make sense?
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Colin Cowherd
I think it's a totally reasonable theory. I think that because you're judging it based on like NBA Finals ratings and World Series ratings.
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Danny Parkins
That's right.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. And listen, that, that, that the math right now on that is undeniable. I also think that like any sport that plays that many games, it's the buildup to it is going to be more local and regional. Because again, I'll just use like my team as the example. Like if I'm a diehard Cubs fan and the game now is, you know, 2 hours and 40 minutes used to be 3 hours and 15 minutes. Whatever. It's a large chunk of time. When I'm done watching the Cubs game, I'm not going to turn on Diamondbacks, Mariners, right? It's because one of 162 of that, I can't. Whereas football, because every game means so much and gambling and fantasy and it's like one day a week and all that Like I can feel like I watch the whole league. You can't do that in basketball. It's, I mean the games are all on but it's impossible if I want to be a Bulls fan and be a diehard NBA fan. I mean, you're just, it's, you don't have enough hours in the day to consume all of it unless you're like a single guy and you're 25 years old and you don't, you know what mean? Like, it's just, there's too, there's too, there's too much inventory to be a fan of everything all the time. And so I feel like a lot of us like play catch up when the playoffs come around because, oh, the games are bigger, they matter more. And that's when it is like, you know, Wemby Luca, last night I paid attention to, obviously I watched we talk about on the show today. But a random regular NBA game and football season like I'll, I'll talk, I'll talk to you in February.
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Danny Parkins
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I thought I was getting a better.
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Danny Parkins
Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people out.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, huge turnouts.
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Danny Parkins
People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.
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Katie Couric
His Fighting Oligarchy tour with AOC and other young progressives has become a movement. But is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so.
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Danny Parkins
Does that sound like a radical idea, Katie? Is that too far left for you?
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Katie Couric
Okay, okay, I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course the government shutdown. Not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party.
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Danny Parkins
To me, the failure of the Democratic.
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Colin Cowherd
Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the real issues.
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Katie Couric
Open your free iHeartRadio app search next question with Katie Couric and listen. Now.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Walley, a double board certified physician.
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Dr. Priyanka Walley and Hari Kondabolu
And I'm Hari Kondabolu, a comedian and someone who once googled do I have scurvy at 3am on health stuff, we're.
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Colin Cowherd
Talking about health in a different way.
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It's not only about what we can do to improve our health, but also.
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Colin Cowherd
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Like our episode where we look at.
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
Extremely. Or our in depth analysis of how incredible mangoes are.
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Danny Parkins
You don't know. You don't know.
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Colin Cowherd
It's going to be a fun ride. So tune in.
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Danny Parkins
Have you ever thought like I've said before I'd love to be a general manager, probably NFL over NBA.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Danny Parkins
But if you ever thought. And I don't. I'm not delusional or misguided in my understanding that I haven't put the time in it to be good, I think there's probably five or six things in my. I could have succeeded at had I given the time I gave to media. You know, I would never have been a concert pianist or a shortstop for the, you know, Orioles, but I could have done a lot of things. Transferable skills, stockbroker, teacher, you know, sportscaster, that kind of stuff. But occasionally there'll be something, and I feel like I've been saying something for years and everybody's disagreed with me in the NBA, and. And I'm right, and I'll throw it to you. I never bought into Joel Embiid, so I always had a belief that if you're hurt early, you're hurt often. I thought he was too socially engaged on social media. I thought he was a weird fit. Whenever I would watch the Sixers, even on the Olympic team, he'd have the ball too often in the perimeter, getting into the way of wing and guard play. And now the Sixers have basically abandoned Joel Embiid in exchange for letting Tyrese Maxey, who I said three years ago was going to be an absolute A. And then they get BJ Edgecombe from Baylor. It's a backcourt team, and they're fun to watch. They're wildly quick, very dynamic. And my take is this Embiid thing was fool's gold four to five years ago, and even smart Daryl Morey bought into it. And I think to myself, did everybody kind of know it was I onto something? So that just the Joel Embiid deterioration, and some of it's physical. I feel like I can't believe everybody else didn't see this.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, he did win mvp.
- [32:12]
Danny Parkins
Kind of a guilt trip. It was kind of a guilt.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, fine. Then he should have been second. Like, you know, like, so Joel and B. Like, so I was working in Kansas City, and Kansas City is a fascinating market because highest local ratings for a playoff team for baseball, I still think is the Royals in 2014. Like, they love sports. It's the only pro sport market. It's the only market in the country that's top 20 for college football, top five for college baseball. They're top five for World cup, they're top five for Olympics. Like, they just watch sports. It's all they do. And so we would Cover Kansas basketball because it was like the third pro team. It was like Chiefs, Royals, KU basketball. Lawrence was 40 minutes away from Kansas City. Big time sports, single, go to a college town, watch a basketball game, go out to the bars. Was great. So that Andrew Wiggins, Joel Embiid team I covered. And I remember seeing him at like practices and shoot arounds and I was like, this kid was so raw, but so crazy gift. I mean, he had been basically a volleyball player two years before and he just started picking up a basketball. So, like, where Joel Embiid got to MVP of the NBA from picking up a basketball for the first time when he was like 16 years old is a remarkable success story. Like it, you know, like, it's just, it's a crazy thing. He's a wildly talented dude. But I think your point on the injury is the thing that they all overlooked. Big guys, if they're hurt early, they stay hurt. Big guys are more likely to be like, I, I think that he was a big personality. A lot of guys are big personalities. Caleb is on social media. LeBron is on social media. Like, I don't think that was a part of it though. I could understand why it turned you off at the time, but I, I wish that, like, and this is stupid to say, but, like, injuries are just cruel because it, we don't. We. It robs us of what it could have been. It robs us of Derek Rose, it robbed us of Grant Hill, it robbed us of Brandon Roy. And I really do think it robbed us of Joel Embiid. Because when he was good, he was unbelievable.
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Danny Parkins
But the question, unbelievable. The question isn't his talent. It's fitting into the construct of a team. So when they put him on the Olympic team, it's like everybody worked except Embiid. And in the east, when LeBron left the east, it was awful. He could not win, generally speaking, a second playoff series. I always said this about John Wall. I don't doubt his talent. At one point he was the fastest player in the NBA. I don't think he played winning basketball, but I thought he played consumable basketball. Wasn't necessarily great for the. Remember when he got hurt one year left, they went on like a 10 game winning streak. It's like, right.
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Colin Cowherd
I saw him, I saw him in college and I was like, I've never seen anyone that fast with the ball on his hands.
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Danny Parkins
It was, it was like any other player. It was crazy. But I always said with Embiid is when I watched him, his teammates didn't like Playing with him like he, like some players, like Jordan may have pissed people off, but you could sense that his teammates loved when he dunked on people. I always thought Embiid and Tobias Harris or Paul George or a Simmons or a Harden didn't necessarily. They weren't happy when he scored. And I just. I guess my whole point on this is there are times, like, I know a lot of people that thought Sam Darnold was good and he would rebound from the jets mess. I didn't know if he'd be this good, but I said, he's a poor man's Andrew Luck. I got killed for that for seven, six years, got killed for it. And I kept saying, he is a poor man's Andrew Luck. Now he looks like Andrew Luck. He's not even poor.
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Colin Cowherd
That's a. That's you. Maybe you should be a general manager in football and basketball. Yeah, that. That one is like, listen to me now. Believe me, later on, All Star for Colin Cowherd.
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Danny Parkins
I should also mention that I thought Yao Ming would be a bust. And Juan Dixon out of Maryland, I thought would be a top 10 player ever.
- [36:19]
Colin Cowherd
So we, we all, we all have them. John Baldwin, the receiver out of pit. I was like. I mean, like, I was like Calvin Johnson and Julio Jones. Like, I don't know, like, which one is a better comp for this guy. Like, it was unbelievable. I think I maybe slightly overrated him beating Syracuse. Maybe just a smidge.
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Danny Parkins
It is. It is funny about personnel, though. I mean, Darnold's an amazing story. We were talking about this in the show today. I said, you see all the time where a great actor, Tom Hanks, takes a bad movie, the Terminal, and you're like, oh, Marlon Brando did that. You'd have, you know, on the Waterfront, and he had six bombs. You see great restaurants lose a chef. They go from Michelin star to just a really good restaurant. You never see terrible hot dog on a stick become Zagat rated. Like, that's not the way it works. There is no terrible to great for actors. You're either like, straight to video. Lindsay Lohan doesn't become Meryl Streep. It doesn't work that way. Except Sam Darnold. It's not that he was terrible. Then he became pretty good because Baker won a playoff game and in that year had a 96 passer rating. He was never terrible.
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Colin Cowherd
Right? I mean, Daniel Jones got a second contract. Daniel, Daniel Jones won a playoff game. Sam Darnold was terrible. But he also, like, what did he have 40 starts 30, 35, 38 starts. Like, it wasn't like that large of a body of work at 21.
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Danny Parkins
He was so think about that. He came into the league four years into the league. He was younger than guys that were getting drafted.
- [37:55]
Colin Cowherd
Right? Yeah. And that's, I mean, that's like, like, I think Trevor Lawrence and Michael Pennocks are the same age, like right now. Just like a weird, it's like a weird thing to deal with. And so, yeah, like, to me, the most interesting part of this is, I mean, obviously the Darnold story is incredible. And I think Seattle is the only team in the NFL right now top five in offense and top five in defense. Like, we have to treat them as real. I did not believe in that Vikings team last year. I'm just not going to. I do believe in the Seahawks team, but I want to know what teams are going to do. Like, are the Colts not going to give up on Anthony Richardson? Like, obviously, Daniel Jones is working. They just traded for Sauce Gardner. They're all in. They'll probably franchise tag Daniel Jones, I would imagine. But like, is the lesson that these teams are going to take from Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield and Daniel Jones being like, we can't give up on guys. Like, we don't have to play them, but we cannot give up on talent. Like, if we truly believe that there is a franchise quarterback in here, it would be, it would haunt me if I'm a Browns fan to see Baker Mayfield doing this or if I'm a Panther fan to see Baker Mayfield and Sam. And Sam Darnold doing this. I don't know how you, how you go to sleep. Go to sleep at night.
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Danny Parkins
Okay, so what, what do Baker and Sam have in common? Baker went to Cleveland and then Carolina poorly run teams. And then McVeigh said, I like him. Okay, okay, Sam, Jets, Carolina, then Kyle Shanahan's like, I like him. Is that it could be in venture capitalism, it can be on Wall street, it can be in sports. The smart take from the less skilled and the less smart is that the smartest people in the NFL, Daniel Jones goes from the shipwreck known as the New York Giants and Kevin o' Connell in season vulture circles all take him. And then from there Shane Steichen goes, they'll all take him. Is that there's a handful of super smart offensive guys and they look at all these bad smart people, figure out who can play and who can't. By the way, Kyle Shanahan looked at Mac Jones, shocker Belichick didn't get him. Jacksonville stumbled. Oh, what a shock. Shanahan's like, actually, he throws a really good ball. I think we'll take him. There's about eight guys in this league now, maybe 10, but eight. And they're really smart. They're with winning organizations. And this happens in every walk of life. They go to the bad organizations with worse GMs, bad scouts, lousy coaches, lousy coordinators, scouting directors that are suboptimal, and they just raid them. Almost all of these reclamation projects started with bad franchises and get picked up by the smartest GMs in the league.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, but the bad franchises don't believe that they're bad. Like, you know, they. It's delusional. Like, but I. So you're right. But Sean McVeigh can't sign everybody. Kyle Shanahan can't sign everybody. Like, at some. I. I just. I don't know what I. I think Anthony Richardson's a decent example. And listen, Shane Steichen might just be an awesome coach. Like, won eight games and nine games with Gardner Minshew and Anthony Richardson and has a shot at the one seed with Daniel Jones. Right. Like, Shane Steichen might just be the next name that we need to include with andy Reid and McVeigh and Shannon. Right. That is certainly on the board. But then my guess is two years from now, Anthony Richardson is still a cult. They'll just be like, why give up on him? Like, we'll. We'll just. We'll keep him. We'll keep developing. And we're going to. We drafted him fourth overall. He can run like Lamar Jackson, but he's built like Cam Newton. Like, he's got an arm like Herbert. Like, we're going to just see if we can develop in between the years and slow the game down for him. So it'll just be interesting to me to see if teams, instead of, like, cutting guys loose, be like, we'll just sit you for a little while. Like, we're not. We're not going to let the Baker Mayfield story happen to us because it's just a painful thing for an organization to go through to like, to see you. You drafted the right guy, so it's not. And then he's awesome elsewhere. So, like, the only. It's on you. It's just gotta be such a shameful feeling for those organizations.
- [42:17]
Danny Parkins
Do you have a bed of the weekend that you really like? I'll just throw it out there.
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Colin Cowherd
I do think I'll pull up my tab right now. Go Ahead.
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Danny Parkins
Yeah, I, I like Baltimore at Minnesota. First of all, Lamar Jackson is Wicked versus the NFC. Second, I don't really buy into the JJ McCarthy stuff after the first scripted drives. Third, Baltimore is one of those teams that literally pre Thanksgiving, several weeks before Thanksgiving is in an absolutely must win every game mode and you can't sell urgency to every locker room. Players know Baltimore players know they can't lose for a month. I like Baltimore minus the points on the road. A road favorite four is a number that I've always bet that means Vegas doesn't want to have a four point favorite. They like to be three or a seven. If they have to give somebody four to four and a half points it generally tells you that's the better team.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I think that Baltimore should roll in that game. I thought the, I thought the Vikings Lions game last week was weird. The, you know there's a blocked kick they kept, they did a good job keeping the Lions offense on the front, on the sideline. Lions were a huge favorite in that game. J.J. mcCarthy had like 150 yards but four touchdowns. I thought that was just like a very weird game. If you play that game 10 times, there's no way you get another one outcome like that. So I don't think the Vikings are great. And Lamar, when he starts and finishes the game, their third. Their, their top three in everything. They're top three in yards, they're top three in points, they're top three and exploit like Lamar. Lamar has been like the outlier is if he has a bad game. Like he was awesome basically every game last year and he was awesome basically every game the year before. So like look, the questions with Baltimore this year have been injuries. That is it. It has been their injuries and their defense is getting healthier and Lamar is healthy. And it was interesting. I was like what, what's Lamar going to look like with rust? Because he had been injured before but it was at the end of the year. We had never seen him be injured in season and then he like short armed like one throw on the first drive and by the second half he was just like manipulating the pocket and looking off the safety and rolling right on two. I was like, my God, like he, he was rusty for like 30 minutes. So I like the Baltimore pick. I like New England getting points against Tampa. But I'll tell you my favorite bet is a total. If I can, if I could sell you.
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Danny Parkins
I have a couple, I have a couple totals that I think are. Go ahead because I have a total.
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Colin Cowherd
I like all right under 50 and a half in Washington. Detroit. No Jaden Daniels for Washington. Multiple offensive line injuries in Detroit. Like, the explosiveness of what the Lions are trying to do just hasn't looked as consistent in a post Ben Johnson world. Like, it flashes and it has its moments. But if you're telling me that their best offensive linemen are hurt, questionable, not practicing, a couple guys might miss and they've been inconsistent. And I just. The Lions defense as actually like, they made it, they made it tough on Lamar for a stretch of time. Like, they've had moments where they've actually looked better with Hutchinson being healthy and they were not nearly as injured as last year. I like the under in that game quite a bit.
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Danny Parkins
Finally.
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Colin Cowherd
I also like that you bet totals now in your blazing five, by the way. Yeah, Nick and I don't do it on the show, but betting totals is a lot of fun. It's underrated. I like to make my total bets on Sunday night for the following week to see if I can like, get some, like, line value at close. Like, if that's going to be a high scoring game. It's going to be. It's like if I, if I, if I close better to the number on my totals, I'm like, I'm seeing the NFL clearly, but sometimes I miss it by four points and it's embarrassing.
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Danny Parkins
I've thought about doing props, but I thought this year I would add an over under every week. I like it just because the public's doing that and then I think next year and I also, I think it's a weird year. Like, I, my play was always bet good quarterbacks, getting points. I was always an underdog. Always an underdog guy.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, fade the public is like a pretty classic, like, first lesson of gambling. Once you start to take it seriously that unders, fade the public, all that sort of stuff.
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Danny Parkins
Yeah, I'm struggling to find under a single underdog this week. I thought Steelers with both tackles out for the Chargers and the Steelers, it will be a home Steeler crowd. It'll be a 65, 35 Steeler crowd.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, the Chargers are used to that, though.
- [47:08]
Danny Parkins
But yeah, and my take was, well, TJ Watt, Steeler pass rush. They don't have their tackles. One of the backup tackles is hurt. I'm like, I think I'll probably just take the points there. But I look, I mean, you start to talk about underdogs. I like Arizona getting six and a half at Seattle just because it's a division rivalry. Seattle look almost perfect against Washington and Then I think, well, Arizona played over their skis against Dallas. I don't. I mean I looked now I again Niners plus three and a half at home. It would help a lot if they could elicit any pressure on Stafford. They don't. So I mean I look Miami plus nine and a half off a great Buffalo performance actually look like the best dog on the board.
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Colin Cowherd
I so last year was like one of the all time great favorites years and I had a real like crisis of confidence because it was also the greatest year I ever had. Picking games. I was like am I just like a public school square like you went. But like I, but I really do feel like, like I would put three picks out on TV that were all favorites gambling Twitter would come at me, oh what a public. What a. What a square. And then they would cover and I was like last year was a real have and have not year. Like there were a lot of really bad teams and a few great teams and those.
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Danny Parkins
This is, this is what I've said the bottom now is not competitive.
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Colin Cowherd
Correct. And so I think that there is because you don't see too big of NFL spreads. But just like if you're telling me find you an underdog that you want me to sell you on. I know there's a mystique to Lambo at night but Philly is coming off of the buy. Yes. The game before their buy best. Their offensive lines looked all year Saquon had, you know, he looked like last year. He was fantastic. And their offensive line was dominant game before that was Jalen Hurts his best game of the year. Green Bay, there's something else and the, and the Tucker Craft injury I think is significant because he's like their intermediate guy. And Jordan, Jordan Love, listen he's only got three interceptions this year but he feels to me like he should have six or seven and he almost blew the end of that game where they got the last playoff with one second. And he like he just. I don't fully trust him. I don't. And his interceptions are bad. Like his interception against Cleveland lost in the game. Terrible. The interception against the Panthers where he threw it into triple coverage into the wind, indefensible. The play on fourth down where they're like well Dobbs stepped out of the back of the end zone. He still rolled all the way left through, all the way back across the field. The guy dropped it. That should have been 105 yard pick six the other way just happened to drop it. So I don't fully trust Jordan Love. The running game isn't working. Philly's coming off a buy. I do like Philly in that spot quite a bit.
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Danny Parkins
Every now and then I rinse it out and I need jammy rinse tonight and I needed more.
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Colin Cowherd
My kid wears a bed and the smell never leaves.
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Danny Parkins
I don't know what to do I'm.
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Colin Cowherd
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Danny Parkins
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Colin Cowherd
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Danny Parkins
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Katie Couric
On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress and he can still pack a rally with people a quarter of his age.
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Danny Parkins
Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people.
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Colin Cowherd
You know, huge turnouts.
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Danny Parkins
People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.
- [53:15]
Katie Couric
His Fighting Oligarchy tour with AOC and other young progressives has become a movement. But is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so.
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Danny Parkins
Does that sound like a radical idea, Katie? Is that too far left for you?
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Katie Couric
Okay, okay, I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living and of course the government shutdown, not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party.
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Danny Parkins
To me, the failure of the Democratic Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the real issues.
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Katie Couric
Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Next question with Katie Couric and listen. Now.
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Dr. Priyanka Walley and Hari Kondabolu
On the podcast Health Stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Walley, a double board certified physician.
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Dr. Priyanka Walley and Hari Kondabolu
And I'm Hari Kundabolu, a comedian and someone who once googled do I have scurvy at 3am on health stuff, we're.
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Colin Cowherd
Talking about health in a different way.
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Dr. Priyanka Walley and Hari Kondabolu
It's not only about what we can do to improve our health, but also.
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Colin Cowherd
What our health says about us and the way we're living.
- [54:21]
Dr. Priyanka Walley and Hari Kondabolu
Like our episode where we look at.
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Colin Cowherd
Diabetes in the United states. I mean, 50% of Americans are pre diabetic.
- [54:28]
Dr. Priyanka Walley and Hari Kondabolu
How preventable is type 2?
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Colin Cowherd
Extremely. Or our in depth analysis of how incredible mangoes are.
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Dr. Priyanka Walley and Hari Kondabolu
Oh, it's hard to explain to rest of the world that like your mangoes are fine because mangoes are incredible. But like you don't even know.
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Danny Parkins
You don't know. You don't know.
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Colin Cowherd
It's going to be a fun ride. So tune in.
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Dr. Priyanka Walley and Hari Kondabolu
Listen to Health stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Danny Parkins
Yeah, I think when teams struggle to find an identity, I worry about them. Like I've said that San Francisco is flawed and completely beat up, but offensively it is Christian McCaffrey 39 times. They know exactly what works, and they figure out ways to get on the ball. I have no idea what Green Bay's offense is. I know what the Rams like to do. They like to run. With Kyron Williams on play action, it's Pooker Devonte Adams. So I think Green Bay's a. You know, it's one of those things with Matt LaFleur is that. Oh, that's the cop. I was just telling a friend this today. Matt LaFleur reminds me of Lincoln Riley at USC. I know they're both smart. They actually, more than the public thinks, prefer running the ball. They get very prickly very quickly. They get very defensive very quickly. I know they're good play designers and play callers. I don't know if they build the best culture. I question a little bit their ability to get men to rise and follow them over the hill. But I know they're smart. I know they're good at their jobs. And I look at Lincoln Riley and I'm like, yeah, he's. He's a really good coach. I always feel like I want more. You know what I mean? And I feel like with Matt, I'm like, yeah, he's smart. He's a really good coach. But it doesn't feel like Andy Reid or Sean Payton or Harbaugh or Mike Vrabel. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, it feels like there's. There's. There's a. I don't know what it is. It's a testosterone. It's an anger. There's something visceral missing for me.
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Colin Cowherd
It sounds like you're putting him in, like, the Mike McDaniel category.
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Danny Parkins
No, no, he's better than that.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, good.
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Danny Parkins
He's more functional and more mainline than that. He's more Main Street.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, because, like, LaFleur's got a lot of pelts on the wall. Like. Like Aaron Rod. They drafted Jordan Love because they thought Aaron Rodgers was done. And then he got two more MVPs out of Aaron Rodgers. You know, they were in the NFC Championship game. They played that weird NFC Championship.
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Danny Parkins
That's the coaching part. I like. That part I like.
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Colin Cowherd
That's the biggest part, though.
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Danny Parkins
Okay.
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Colin Cowherd
That's the biggest part. Like, I. We all love Dan Campbell. Dan. We might. Mike Tomlin. They're great quotes. They're great leaders of men. To your thing earlier, you could have done five or six different things. Like, Dan Campbell probably could, like, lead a business and lead 40 employees to, like, hit their Earnings numbers or whatever the case may be Mike Tomlin. No doubt the same thing. But the guy who can execute the game plan Sunday night through Saturday to get you ready for that Sunday game at 1:00'.
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Danny Parkins
Clock.
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Colin Cowherd
Like, to me that is still the most valuable piece of it. And I know people will say no, you've got to just be a CEO type and a leader. I'll take the guy who's smarter than everybody else. And because like, to me that leaves me with the Sean McVeighs and the Kyle Shanahan's and you can have the Dan Campbell's and the Mike Tomlins and I guess I'll see you in the Super Bowl.
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Danny Parkins
Well, yeah, I don't think he's Mike McDaniel, but I don't think he's Sean Payton. He's clearly closer to Peyton than Mike McDaniel. But I do feel there's a gap between Andy Reid bumping Travis Kelce on the sideline and Sean Payton calling out Russell Wilson.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, Matt LaFleur, I think that that's true and I think that that's probably developed over time. And I don't know, like LaFleur is probably. Jordan Love is so good that I think Matt Lafleur, like, and I, I again I just said that I have some questions about Jordan Love. But Jordan Love is way better than he is supposed to be. Right? And I think that that is a large part due to Matt LaFleur. So if you can get the best out of late Aaron Rodgers and convince that old dog new tricks and you can have Jordan Love be a top 10, top 12 guy.
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Danny Parkins
Okay.
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Colin Cowherd
You're a good coach.
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Danny Parkins
Okay, so this is my Lincoln Riley thing. Jaden Mayava played at unlv. I was watching television on a Friday night once and Jaden Myava played for unlv. I think they played Boise State. And I'm like, God, that kid's talented, but he's a reckless mess. But God, he's good. And then he goes to usc and I'm like, yeah, he's still really, really reckless. I'm not. Because he didn't start the year as the starter. Miller Moss I think was there, transferred, then he got it this off season. I watched Jaden Mava, I'm like, is he a second round pick? So like Lafleur, his ability to, I mean what Lincoln Riley's done to Jaden Myov over two years is unbelievable. That he's, he's, he was just this wild UNLV quarterback. I didn't even understand what he saw in him. I'm like, wow, he doesn't even look big enough. Didn't have a big arm. So, like, LaFleur, Lincoln Riley. I think this is the thing. This is something I've talked to executives about in the NFL, and they're like, we tend to fall in love with play designers and play callers.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Danny Parkins
But you have to be careful, because really what they are is CEOs. And I think sometimes Lincoln and Matt, I don't feel like I get quite as much CEO as I want, but I get a tremendous play caller. And my wife always says this. She always says, you just give smart people the benefit of the doubt. There's more to life than smart. And I'm like, yeah, you're right, there is. But I do tend to err on the side of. That guy's really bright. I trust him. And I think with Lincoln and Matt, I'm always left arguing with myself. I mean, literally, when you're describing what he did with Jordan, Love, I'm like, that's what I saw with Jaden Miami. With Lincoln Riley, it's the same thing.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, yeah, listen. And I mean, Andy Reid in Philly, people hated him because he didn't run the ball enough. Now everybody passes first. And then in Kansas City, he's got. He's a dynasty because he's got Mahomes. And it's like, hey, you should be a little bit more aggressive on fourth down. And then. And then this year, he has been like. Like, Andy Reid is as aggressive. He's more aggressive on fourth down this year than any year of his career. He's in his mid-60s. Like, these guys keep getting better. They keep adding to something like Andy Reid's resume. We've talked about this a little bit before in terms of, like, does he have a shot at Belichick? And greatest of all time and all that stuff. But, like, if you look through his history, and it's like, Donovan McNabb, best season of his life is with Andy Reid. Alex Smith, best season of his life is with Andy Reid. Jeff Garcia, best season of his life. And Reid, Kevin Cobb, that season of his life. Andy Patrick Mahomes, Alex Smith. Don't remember if I mentioned him. Like, it's like six. Mike Vick. It's legitimately like, six or seven different NFL quarterbacks who have the best season of their career with that guy as their coach. Like that to me, okay, then you're awesome. And that's what Kyle Shanahan is building that resume. That's what McVeigh is building that resume. And while Leflore doesn't have the number of guys yet, he's just much young. Like, if you're two for two, and this is a small sample, I will fully admit this, man, that that guy won games last year with Malik Willis. Yeah, when Jordan Love got hurt and Malik Willis went in, they won. Now, Malik Willis did not look like Joe Montana, but they won football games. Like, I've seen Mike McDaniel's offense without Tua. It's literally unwatchable, you know, and so I, I just, I do hold Leflore in pretty high esteem. I'm not saying he's a top, but he's like, very comfortably in my top 10.
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Danny Parkins
I did think about this, I mentioned this on the air today, is that I always trust the American public and I don't trust political pundits, I don't trust sports pundits. I trust the American public when they have a good gauge on what's inauthentic, what's authentic. And when Zohan Mandami won in New York, the capitalism center of North America, he won for two reasons. One, the previous politicians weren't providing something they promised that always opens the door for the other side. And the second thing, he had a very energized, focused, kind of a little bit of a disruptor. If he was a business, he was a little bit of a disruptor. And there's a lot of young people who are unsatisfied with the rent and the cost of living. And like all of us are, whether you do well or not well. But my take was on this is that the media wants you to believe, and maybe the left can be a bit more anxiety filled and neurotic, that it's the Trumpism, it's never ending. How are we gonna find the candidates? And my take is the pendulum just swings back and forth. And Trump always had a high unfavorable rating. Most presidents do. His is higher than people who win. And that it was bound to be eventually. A good night for the blue. And I don't know if I agree with Zohan's policies most. I don't. It's more of a moderate. I don't. But my take is the political media engages in a lot of grievance and a lot of fear mongering. And the truth is, the public is what I trust. If they feel one side's too authoritarian, they get uncomfortable and they go even far enough left where Democrats are uncomfortable with the mayor of New York. So that's my opening take your thoughts.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I think, you know, it's been interesting to be in New York for this whole process. Now I'm in Westchester county, you know, I'm in suburban New York, but commute into the city five days a week and I'll just give you my kind of opening thoughts on it. I guess I'm, I'm really glad this election is over because those political ads were some of the nastiest I've ever seen. It was wild. It was, it was so. Because I listen, I probably, I'm definitely left of you. I have some skepticism of whether or not some of these policies are going to work or have any chance of actually being enacted. I think that the, I think local New York politics tends to get overstated and over covered nationally because it's the capital of the world and it's the capital of media. Right. All the media corporations are based out here. So I think that it takes on outsized importance. I think Mamdani was a very impressive politician. Like he, yes. You could not get him off message. Like, are you going to take a call from Trump if he wants to talk about affordability for New York? Where's the place to get a pastrami sandwich? Well, I know my favorite spot, but the best one is the one that's affordable for New Yorkers. Like, he just, like it was real, it was relentless. Like, it was just, I'm going to match the corporate tax rate in New Jersey. I'm going to tax millionaires another 2%. I'm going to freeze the rent. I'm going to give you free buses. I'm going to make New York affordable. Like those are the five things. And that's all he engaged with. But the, the, I know politics are nasty and I know media is meant to divide us, but Colin, there were literally multiple different ads that showed the Twin Towers exploding. And then just being like, Mandani is going to be okay with this or do you want him in charge of it? And it was just like over pronunciation of a Muslim name, showing the twin towers burning and trying to equate the two. Like, it was so nasty that I honestly stopped even caring about the policies. And I was just like, I want him to win. Like, I just, like I want him to win because it just got, it got. It was so beyond the pale, the people that were against him that I just thought it was so out of bounds and like frankly, uncomfortable watching. Like you'd watch football games here and then it would just be like Andrew Cuomo Ads with the twin towers and like 911 imagery. Basically, like saying some version of this guy wouldn't be equipped to handle it to. He was happy that it happened. Like, it was just so out of bounds that I'm like, just like really glad this election cycle is over because I thought it was particularly nasty.
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Danny Parkins
Yeah. And, and I, and I go back to my initial point is that I trust the public's decision. Everybody young tends to be idealistic. We all get a bit more moderate or conservative as we age, so it's not surprising that young New Yorkers went left. Listen, Bernie Sanders, I don't know if he classifies as a socialist. I don't think he does. He is a left of left Democrat, but he's one of the more popular people. I can argue had the Democrats not railroaded him, he would have been the candidate going up against Trump. I think, I think that, I think.
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Colin Cowherd
That'S kind of fact at this point. Yeah, I think the 2016 Bernie probably should have been the candidate, you know, and the establishment took him over. And listen, you know, we've talked about this on air and off a little bit. Like, the Democrats are trying to figure out who the inspiring people are and the people that have the clearest messaging.
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Danny Parkins
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Are within the Democratic Party are like the Bernie AOC wing of the party.
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Danny Parkins
Yep.
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Colin Cowherd
And is that the most electable thing? No. Is it the most general thing? No, but I, but it. At least they have a clear message.
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Danny Parkins
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
I know Bernie believes that it's embarrassing that health care isn't a universal right for everybody. Like, and he just. That's his message. That's his message. And you know what? That's a pretty popular stance with me. You know what I mean?
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Danny Parkins
So I, I tell my liberal good at messaging.
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Colin Cowherd
Like, the progressive wing of the Democratic Party is better at messaging what matters to them than the establishment wing of the Democratic Party.
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Danny Parkins
Danny Parkinson.
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Colin Cowherd
These, these hours fly by.
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Danny Parkins
Colin.
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Colin Cowherd
It's a highlight of my week.
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Danny Parkins
And mine too, buddy. Thanks, man.
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Colin Cowherd
The volume.
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Danny Parkins
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Katie Couric
On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders. We've talked many times over the years and today he even throws a few questions my way.
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Danny Parkins
Are you ready for another question?
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Colin Cowherd
Go ahead, hit me, Bernie.
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Katie Couric
We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living and of course the government shutdown. Listen to Next Question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast.