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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Colin Cowherd Podcast - Bills BAD Loss, Caleb Has HORSEPOWER, Pats Are BACK, Seahawks Don’t Have A Weakness
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Colin Cowherd
C App for details, I turned off news altogether.
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John Middlekauff
I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of Anything. It's the rage. It feels like it's trying to divide people. We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little.
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Colin Cowherd
NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America the Volume.
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John Middlekauff
All right.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm a football fan for a long time, since the 70s. I don't watch football without something to eat and drink. Trust me, it's. It's a whole different ball game when you're eating right now. I got two things today from Uber Eats right now. When you buy one large extra most bestest pepperoni pizza from Little Caesars like this one, you get another one free. By the way, one of these has already been eaten by me and my wife 15 minutes ago. Yes, that's right. An extra extra most bestest pizza thrown in there. Extra cheese, extra pepperoni, all for the price of just one. And since Uber Eats is the official on demand food delivery partner of the NFL, you know, all the game day deals keep coming all season long. Wings and tacos and subs and pizzas, chips and dips, whatever. Whatever it is, Uber Eats delivers right to your door. So when your team puts up the extra point reward yourself with an extra pizza order. Little Caesars on Uber Eats today we did. Terms apply. See the app for details. Pizza, pizza. Extra extra. Something's going on here. Foreign, we're ready for an hour. Plus. John Middelkoff, former NFL scout, has his own podcast. Three and out. It is Sunday. There's a lot to talk about. Listen, let's. Let's start with a non competitive game. Rams 42, Niners 20. It's just amazing. The Rams are the least penalized team in the league. No penalties. This is one of those things. When I used to cover the Patriots, right when I was on the east coast, they went years and I was always like, nobody fumbles for New England. And I used to tell friends, I'm like, is it a stick em thing? People would feel it on the ball. No, they're well coached, the Rams. For the second year of the least penalized team, you go into a heated rivalry game. No penalties, no turnovers. My take is obviously the Niners are all banged up, but it is so efficient. You can see the coaching with the Rams. That's what I feel like.
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John Middlekauff
Yeah. I mean, the 49ers, their defense is a mash unit, but when you play a mass unit and you're a good team, you score in every drive. And that's essentially what the Rams did. And Stafford is A dominant player right now. I mean, he's a legitimate. I. He's probably had some years. I have to really dive in. But this feels like his highest level of play consistently week in, week out, especially when you factor in his age. Remember, McVeigh all off season said, listen, we value, like, because of our money situation, we are underpaying Matt Stafford and we know it. They approach this offseason with him much different than they did years ago with the golf situation. They were just transparent about it. They're like, we know we technically have to underpay him. We know he's better than what we're. He's making $40 million a year. I mean, Trevor Lawrence makes more than him. Right? Tua makes more than him. Purdy makes more than him. So he is. Puka's an incredible talent and Devonte and him have that. He has like a Rogers level rapport with him immediately.
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Colin Cowherd
Immediately. He had no training camp. I mean, give me a break.
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John Middlekauff
Yeah, yeah, I forgot about that because the back didn't work, so. That's right. They are. It feels like we're on a collision course right now. We're recording this obviously before the Monday night game. So we'll see the Eagles and the packers, but I would say the Rams in Seattle look like they're playing at a really high level. The 49ers offense actually is playing at a really high level. It's just defense. They're rolling out, me and you, and they got no chance to stop a good team.
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Colin Cowherd
I was going to say, if you looked at the box score and didn't look at the score and watch the game. Niners move the ball. I'll say this about Mac Jones. You know, Mac Jones is a big, sturdy kid. I think he throws a really nice ball. He's not super athletic, but like, I get, when I watch him, like, I get why he was a great high school, college and a pro Bowler. Like, Mac throws a real ball. He makes good decisions, tight spiral. You know, he moved out and threw a touchdown pass. You know, scrambling to a tight end.
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Colin Cowherd
I would have no problem as a bridge quarterback for a couple years going with Mac Jones. If I was an NFL GM or a coach. He. He's one of the better bridge guys in a lot to me in a. In a while.
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John Middlekauff
Yeah, I'd even argue he's probably better than that. You know, like, clearly you watch Sam Darnold. His physical traits are that of a guy that was drafted really high in any draft, quarterback inflation or back in the 90s. Mack doesn't have those physical attributes, but he's an NFL starting quarterback. But he's on a two year contract. Colin, did you see the clip with Brady when they asked him on the pregame show about, you know, Mac Jones? And he said, well, once upon a time, you know, you can't not go to Mac Jones the way he's playing. And I found myself in a situation a long time ago and I look at me now, I'm probably not here if I wasn't and I just went. I actually don't think it's that controversial to say Purdy's toe doesn't work. He can't even dress for games. So Mac Jones is the quarterback for the entire season. Like I don't expect Purdy to play and if he does, he'll immediately just re injure his toe. That's what happened last. That's the injury he has. He's got a unique injury. It's not one of those things that just heals. He's never going to be 100%. So if he's compromised, Mac Jones is keep playing. To me, Mac Jones plays the rest of the season. And you know, the crazy thing is, Colin, we're not that far away from the bears. And the 49ers play in about four or five weeks and that could potentially be for the seven seed. Now the Niners, they play the Cards, the Titans, the Browns. Remember we talked about the beginning of the season. The Patriots and the Niners, there's the Bear. Schedule gets a little more difficult. Packers a couple times, the Steelers, even the Vikings I think next week in Minnesota. So the Niners, but they all, they play each other. So if the Bears can just kind of hold serve, we could have a pseudo, you know, December playoff game for that seven seed, Niners, Bears, which would be pretty fun. And B, I'm also the Mac Jones thing. Let's say you could trade him this offseason. I think he's too valuable to the 49. He makes no money. He's on a two year, $7 million contract and Purdy is, let's face it, he ripped up his arm. Granted that was the last game of the season, but if that happens in October, he misses a season this year. I mean, what's he going to end up playing two or three games? Mac Jones value to the 49ers I'd argue is more valuable. Unless you're getting a first round pick, which you're probably not. I'm not giving them away. I'm just holding them for the next, this year, next year until Purdy proves that he can stay on the field.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh and, and the Niners will get calls on Matt Jones and they'll say.
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John Middlekauff
And Kyle, Kyle's been open about it. He wanted to take them. And then I think as the process went on he kind of went to the guy with in quotes more upside. But there's no way Kyle doesn't like him now. You know, right. Today he's just slink he didn't have incompletions. I mean hitting guys on the hip. And beside Kittle and McCaffrey there's a lot of Demarcus Robinsons and Kendrick Bourne. He's not throwing to Jerry Rice and John Taylor out there. Colin.
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Colin Cowherd
No, no, I mean I'm impressed with Mac Jones and the other thing we saw in the late window when rosters get depleted, which they do November on elite quarterbacks, golf, Stafford, look at the late window. Darnold blowout wins. When you have a B quarterback and Mac, I'm telling you, Max, if Max a backup, he's the best backup in the league. And to me he's a, he's a bridge or a franchise guy. And, and he struggled to compete today. So what you saw in the late window, this is something I've been on now for years, John. The bottom of the NFL by November looks like the bottom of the NBA. It's unwatchable because the league is so quarterback dependent when if you don't have a star quarterback because everybody's be. I mean the Rams are lucky. They don't get penalties, they don't get hurt. I mean nobody's hurt by and large. Everybody's banged up right now. Everybody's dinged up. The packers are dinged up, the Niners are dinged up. You know, it's just the way the league is. It really helps to have a horse quarterback and you saw it today. So you know, Rams in a blowout win 42, 26 as we went on the air and that game wasn't quite done. I want to, I want to, I want to talk about the Bears for a second. So Chicago beats New York 2420. And so it was Caleb Williams and Jackson Dart. And Jackson Dart outplayed him for the first three quarters. But there is something, I've said this about Caleb Williams multiple times, John. He doesn't get hurt and he doesn't throw interceptions. Jackson dart gets hurt a lot and he'll throw picks. Now Jackson, I thought he plays with a ton of confidence. He throws a nice Ball. Jackson played really, really well. He had a couple of touchdown runs. One was a 24 yard run, was a big run. Both those quarterbacks can really way above average movement, way above average. Now, again, Caleb had a great fourth quarter, but when I watch the game and you have to watch the whole game, there's becoming an issue with Jackson dart.
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Colin Cowherd
He's getting banged up a lot. This is my Brock Purdy thing. If you're a little smaller or you play with a lot of confidence. Baker Mayfield used to do that. First couple years, he played with more confidence than he should have. Somebody would pick him off, he'd square him up. It's like, bro, you're a quarterback, you're not, you're not a free safety. Would it worry you, the Jackson Dart concussion today, the constant blue tent visits and the injuries?
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John Middlekauff
I think it worries me with all these young quarterbacks. They all have a style. You know, I would say Caleb Williams style is the same thing. He's just built more like a, like a tank. They all scramble around and run around. I mean, Jaden Daniels nowhere to be found. Where'd he get hurt running? You know, I mean, this, this is the new age. We watch football every Saturday for four plus months and it's fantastic. But they're all moving around. So back in the day, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, one all those guys are huge. The quarterbacks now are smaller. I mean, they're definitely smaller, but they move around. To me, the Jackson Dart, they. The play that he got injured on, the one that he fumbled, it was like a quarterback power which had worked earlier in the game. So when you're calling those plays and the guy's name's not Cam Newton, you know, this is the NFL. You know, he got rocked by like three guys and I mean, there were a lot of plays. The strength of Caleb was on full display today. How many sacks did he break out of? I actually think there's an element that I, it's like I'm not, I'm going to sound critical, but he almost throws too hard. There were so many balls that were dropped by those guys throughout the game. It's probably, you know, you're there, right? How cold is it in Chicago? You probably can't feel your hands. Balls are pro. I bet some of those guys are going to wake up in the morning with sore hands and. But on the balls where Jackson dart was completing him, it was more rollout lobs. It's hard to complete the Brett Favre fars. Players used to talk about this in Green Bay, like, it is hard. Yeah. In December and November. And I just thought, like, it's not that Rome is a bad player, but you catch that. I would say Caleb Williams has right now as strong of an arm as anyone. In the end, he let a couple rip today where you're just like, that's Josh Allen, if not stronger. It was Jesus.
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Colin Cowherd
How about he, he rolled right.
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John Middlekauff
I was impressed. I, I, I've been hard on him. I, I thought I was impressed today with how he played in the, in the weather too.
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Colin Cowherd
He rolled right. He threw a ball to DJ Moore in the end zone, who, he caught it, but he was out of bounds. John, it was 40 yards, I swear to God. It was a line drive to left field. It was about as high as the shortstop. It was a freaking rope in a windy, cold environment. And DJ Moore to his credit, caught it, but it was out of bounds. His I, the word I always use with Caleb, and I'd never used it with any quarterback before, is just horsepower. He is a V8. I mean, it is. He is. And here's the other thing, the knock on him Caleb is, you know, he holds the ball too long. But I was thinking about this today. He doesn't throw picks. So in his mind is, yeah, I'm going to hold it longer than other guys because my escapability outside of Lamar Jackson is probably second best in the league. So first of all, I'm stronger than Lamar Jackson. So if I do get hit, I mean, he rolls. You can't.
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John Middlekauff
If you're, he breaks tackles like a younger Russell Wilson.
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Colin Cowherd
Or Big Ben where a defensive player gets on his shoulder and he just brushes him off. So I think a lot of him holding the ball is, I just trust that I'm going to escape. And you know, I watched it a couple of times today when he had that big run down the sideline. I'm like, if he was a running back, you wouldn't want to size him up. If you were a safety. I mean, he's a big dude.
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John Middlekauff
I remember we did this maybe like week two. And the one thing that jumped out to me, you know, because last year their games were just so, I mean they had what, like a 10 game losing streak? I mean, they didn't matter bad. You watch him this year, he is way more athletic than I think people thought coming out. Also, you know, when you're judging him against Arizona and Arizona State and Colorado, right. In college, you see him against these NFL guys, he's running faster than Them now, you know, I'm not saying he's Lamar Jackson in the open field, but he is way faster than I expected. I thought he kind of won them the game. Down the stretch today he made huge play after huge play four and obviously it flipped when dart gets hurt. And Russell Wilson, it was just, man, it's hard to come in in a game where it's freezing cold, but God, he looks terrible.
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Colin Cowherd
So Caleb's fourth game winning drive in six weeks. And my whole life I have watched the Bears lose games like they're winning. And this, by the way, it's different. Denver's winning, but the quarterback plays awful. The quarterback play with Chicago's wildly dynamic and what's interesting, Caleb's gotten better late in games. He may not be as good on the script that he was in the first four weeks. Like now he's doing stuff on his own and I mean right now, this season. In the fourth day he had 77 yards passing, a passing touchdown, 109 passer rating, 52 yards rushing and a rushing touchdown. Okay, and again that's not the script. That's the opposite of the script. Those were crucial drives to win the game with a ton of pressure. Yeah, I think.
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Colin Cowherd
Listen, winning games is like today I watched the Colts. Oh God, drove me crazy. They won the game. This is, that's why with analytics sometimes I'm like I'm going to get points. Sometimes not the touchdown I need to win the game. So we all keep our mortgage, right?
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John Middlekauff
Well, to me, the Bears game, if that had been a probably, it's probably a rarity in Chicago, but let's say it's a 75 degree November, early November game, you know, perfect weather, let's even say like 60. I'd be like, well, the Giants are terrible when it's freezing cold. That, that makes the game very difficult. I don't care who you're playing. I, I'm sure you saw some of that Wisconsin, you know, Washington game, Iowa, Oregon game. It is hard to play in those environments. No one can feel their hands. Hard to breathe. I, I have way more respect. Like I, I, I don't judge scores. You know, you're not going to hit many explosive plays in the passing game. What is all what you know, if you go back and I saw it firsthand because they played the Niners when LaFleur got there and they resurrected Rogers career, they were playing these home games in Green Bay. It's freezing cold. So your, your vaunted pass attack does not work as well. And you know, University of Washington has one of the best wide receivers in the league, one of the best quarterbacks in the country. They couldn't operate. They have a great offense. It doesn't function well. You know, Oregon has NFL players everywhere.
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Colin Cowherd
They couldn't function.
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John Middlekauff
So it's like I just go, hey, if you got to win a game, 13 to 10, I actually think. And it's an awesome. Listen, if you're a Bears fan, you apologize to nobody about winning games. After the last thing the Giants, this thing I defended probably three or four weeks ago, I'm like, listen, he went all in on this quarterback. He was right, right. I mean there is. If you just pull GMs right now, I think 32 of them would take Jackson Dart over Cam Ward today. Now their careers aren't written, but today Brian Dabel was right about the quarterback he liked. Problem is his team. I mean that's, I think I read today a stat that that's his fourth game in which he had a second half lead of 10 plus points. And obviously he's had now multiple double digit leads in the fourth quarter in which they implode. I mean today he kicked the field goal. They had 12 men on the field. But Russell's in the game, not Darth. He declines the penalty and takes the points instead of just getting the first. Because in. Listen, I thought like hey, you don't want to risk fumbling. You're up 20 to 10. How are the Bears going to score? But then it bit him in the ass. And there were reports, you know, local radio people have connections to ownership that said the ownership was close after the Denver Bronco game. And this feels, you know, you're up 20 to 10, you're cruising. Maybe they give him a little break because darts in the tent. But man, that's. It's hard to. It's hard to kind of fend off the arrows. Colin, when you keep having these devastating losses.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it's nothing's. These New York football teams. It's just, it's, it's just, it's a, it's a football swamp. Like think people just go to drown in these places.
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John Middlekauff
I think Justin Fields didn't have a hundred yards today total. And they won. Didn't total running and passing.
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Colin Cowherd
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Bernie Sanders
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Katie Couric
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Bernie Sanders
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Bernie Sanders
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Colin Cowherd
I may be too harsh here. Baltimore 27, Minnesota 19. This was one of my favorite picks of the weekend. Ravens third straight win. So I don't like to bang on young quarterbacks. J.J. mcCarthy, eight false starts at home. You're the home team, not a college team. You're a pro team. 13 total penalties. So I went and looked this up again on the opening drive. He's very good on opening drives. I'm not the first drive with, you know, Kevin O'. Connell. 3 of 4, 117 passer ratings. Vikings score a touchdown. I watched it. I'm like, what's slick? But I said as he did it, okay, I've seen this before. After the first drive, J.J. mcCarthy, 17 of 38, okay, he's under 50% and a 4 to 5 passer rating. So it's almost like a comedian. You either make me laugh or you don't. When I watch a franchise quarterback like you either pick up first downs, you have long drives, you make big touchdown throws, or you don't. You can't try to convince me something is true. If I go to watch a comedy show, you're either funny or you're not for 45 minutes. Bill Burr makes me laugh almost every joke. Like you can't convince me of stuff. And I watched JJ McCarthy and I didn't like him out of college. So I don't want to do confirmation bias. But after those scripted drives, I don't get it. I don't see it. He's not accurate. Everything's a fastball and they have good receivers and a better than average offensive line and a solid running back and a great offensive coach. I mean Overall, today's 20 of 42. I mean you can't win in this league like that.
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John Middlekauff
You know, Their biggest problem too is their star player Justin Jefferson, who they paying a ton of money, who is, I would say widely considered throughout the league a high level, high character. Guy quit on them today. There was an interception in which he threw. He just stopped. He didn't even chase. And to me, like wide receivers aren't your leaders. Right, they're your follow now. Luckily he's the best follower, but he knows. And then ironically, the Seattle game start, I didn't even, I wasn't even on it yet because it started at 2 o'. Clock. I look up, Darnold's first pass is like a 50 yard bomb. Hits JSN in the hands. And if I, if I'm Justin Jefferson, this is the Larry Fitzgerald thing. You are so dependent on whoever that guy is. And he's already had, he had a good Kirk Cousins last year. He had a guy throwing 35 touchdowns who's going to throw 40 again. And now he gets this, this kid's over his head. You know, this is a situation that, listen, it's not. His career is not written, you know, his second year in the, in his career. But 20, 30 years ago, this guy sitting for two or three years, this guy's never touching the field. And he's on the field on a team with a lot of good players, a great coaching staff. I mean their defense was playing their ass off as long as they could. But your quarterback, he threw two picks that even I think Moose Johnson was calling the game. He's like, I. On one, he's like, I don't even know what he's looking at there. Like you cannot throw that ball. The, the, the two DBs, Willie Mays catch just right in their hands. They both led, they both went to field goals. Now they ended up losing by eight. And I think they had another like a kickoff return. They fumbled that they, they scored immediately. So turnovers killed them. But two of them directly on JJ McCarthy that are just basically acting as punts. And I just think when you start losing high character guys on your team, I don't really blame Jefferson here. Like, I, I can't battle for this guy. You know, I don't think he's good enough. And we saw it. I keep bringing this up because I was around this team a lot. Is when you have a team that views themselves as like a bunch of pro bowlers that can compete and the 49ers, like their star players never bought in. It's not that they're not nice, they don't like the guy personally, but if you're not good enough, like this is a production based business, it's pretty black and white. You can either play or you can't. The Bears are a good example of like their standards not that high. Like if they get to eight or nine wins this year, that's a success. The vikings just won 14 and we're 60 minutes away from being the number one seed. So Justin Jefferson goes, I got this kid. We have to hold his hand. Who cannot. I mean, playing a real opponent at home, that was the other thing. We're playing a real opponent at home and a big underdog with this guy.
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Colin Cowherd
And John, operationally eight false starts at home, that's like a college quarterback playing at Georgia where you're overwhelmed, you can't hear, the whole thing is a mess. And you know, it's one of those things where players talk to your point earlier. They know what Darnold's doing. Darnold's been the number one ranked PFF quarterback for like a month. I mean, I watched him today. He has the weirdest turnovers, by the way. The ball ricocheted off his tight ends helmet for an interception. Darnold has the weirdest turnovers in the league. But it, it, there's. You can't, you can't. And you know, the thing about Baltimore is they was field goal, field goal, field goal. But one of the things about Baltimore is they just keep coming at you. That that team is just kind of at a relentless attack. I mean, God, remember a couple of weeks ago when they bears with Tyler Huntley the backup and you're like, jesus, this is an incredible effort. Baltimore's got a culture that's been built for years and they, even in that first half when Brian Flores is giving them trouble, they just can't quite move the chains. They just keep getting points and points and then all of a sudden you look up, they blow. You Know a couple of big plays and it's over. Yeah, I, I respect the Colts. They just moved off Anthony Richardson. I respect Kyle Shanahan. He just moved off Trey Lance. I think at the end of the year you let him play the rest of the season. Between the injuries and what I'm watching off the first scripted drive, it just doesn't work. You can't fool me.
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John Middlekauff
Like you said with the comedian analogy. Like it's not even. You just got to watch him. And as the game goes, he can make a good play. And then he makes two horrendous plays and the interceptions of just throwing YOLO balls. The Ravens are healthy now, relative. You know, beside the guys on injured reserve.
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Colin Cowherd
That's right.
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John Middlekauff
So who are his two interceptions to? Starks, first rounder from Georgia and Marlon Humphreys, one of the more versatile DBs in the league. So it's like you're playing those type guys. This is real. This is no longer. You're not getting Rutgers here on a. On a Saturday at 1 o'. Clock. This is Marlon Humphrey, Makai Starks, John Harbaugh, Lamar Jackson. They're fighting for their lives. Right. This is a team over the last couple years who has been. They would say we have. We just haven't figured out in the playoffs. But we have been the chief sequel, you know, 1 through 17 throughout the season. Right. But we just. We are better than you. And there's no way this essentially a rookie quarterback because it. And as the game went on. That's the one thing with football. Right. Anyone that gambles knows this. You can't get too excited after a quarter. Let the game play out. The cream usually rises the. You know, the more pressure comes on a quarterback. They keep bringing them different looks and I think the Vikings listen, we all make decisions. Some of them don't work. That's a pretty. That's a decision that's going to be hard to live with for a while. The Sam Darnold situation because it's one thing if like hey Seattle gave him $200 million, it would have ruined our whole. They gave him $55 million guaranteed. And like you said he. He's been one of if not the best. Like he is playing at a level that's no different than good Mahomes good Allen like he's an elite player that's. And now you got this guy because you drafted him really high. Who's. You're not going to make the playoffs this year. I mean they got a game I think this upcoming week or maybe they're on a, I'm pretty sure they play this upcoming week against the Bears. I mean, that's, you know, now the Bears are going to have a lot to play for because that week one kind of embarrassed them. They got some Momentum coming in. JJ's kind of @ a point, you've been talking about this. You kind of get till Thanksgiving your second year now. I think they would say he didn't get his first year, but like you, you think they're just going to roll it out again Year three. That's, that's just not the way the league works. It's a pet peeve of mine when people say, like, no one has any patience anymore. Well, yeah, the league in like 1987, the teams were worth like $100 million. They're now worth $7 billion. They're paying people $150 million. Yes, patience is shorter. Welcome to 2025.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, the other thing, John, is you shouldn't have as much patience because these quarterbacks come in with 10,000 throws. They have private coaches, the seven on seven camps. This is not the Eli Manning era. This is the Arch Manning era, where you're making $6 million in college private coaching. Sometimes you fly private jet. You can get places faster. So I, I've always said, Thanksgiving, second year, I'm going with my GM in the room and telling him it used to be, I want three full seasons. I'll give you three full seasons unless you're just absolutely out of your mind, overmatched. So I, I don't have a problem with. And you also say, well, he hasn't been healthy. That's kind of a you problem. Like, nothing against Brock Purdy, but you know who was always healthy, mostly was Brady and Big Ben and Brett Favre. And those guys are healthy because they're durable. You know, Caleb Williams doesn't get hurt. He's big and strong. That's one of the reasons, John, that traits matter. Size matters, thickness matters. I remember when Matt Ryan came out, I'm like, I like everything about him. And he looks like a four iron. Like he just now. Matt was one of those Goff, by the way. Never gets hurt, has a thin frame. Dude at Cal was rag dolled three years, never gets hurt. I'm sorry. J.J. mcCarthy struggled with injuries. And now for our next segment, whiskey business. Yes, whiskey business. Brought to you by Green River Whiskey, the official whiskey of the Colin Coward podcast. Okay, New England 28, Tampa 23. Tampa on a buy, took a seven nothing lead. And that was about the only Time you thought they were the better team. So, I mean, it's really interesting. I've been waiting for. For New England Trayvon Henderson to play more. I loved him at Ohio State. Well, today, a couple of big runs. They have running back injuries and Mike Vrabel wants. I think Vrabel's a little bit like Belichick in, which is just because you're a great rookie or a top pick, you have to earn your way. You have to earn time. And if you don't block, if you don't pass, block particularly well. A lot of these NFL coaches, John, they don't care where you're drafted as a running back. Like, they won't play until you can Bl Corum last year. They won't play it. So Travion Henderson, who I thought was a pretty good blocker out of Ohio State, he got some carries today. Holy shit. Boy, he is. He is. He pops. The other thing that I watched with New England, Williams, the young receiver, the complete burner. Remember. Remember him? Washington State.
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John Middlekauff
Yep.
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Colin Cowherd
He, he, he was a blur on tv. But you know what I noticed in this game? This just may be me, but it was almost like Drake May was in Baker's head. Like, Baker has a lot of confidence and Drake May is just making plays and he's making big throws. And they take a Lee and it's in Tampa and it's Baker's house. And Baker was like running more than he should run. He was, he was. Baker was doing a little too much to me, running around in the pocket, looking for the big play downfield. Now Tampa's a big play offense. But you, I mean, watching that game, watching Drake May, I kept asking myself, is New England the best team in the afc? Seriously, are they?
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John Middlekauff
Well, I mean. Well, they're in first place in their division, you know, with the Bills, who last week we thought could win the Super Bowl. And it turns out they just play up for Kansas City and then down to whoever else they're playing. I mean, they got Curb Stomp today. Today was a big swing in that, in that division. And like you said, I think the knock that people had on New England was they're just not going to have enough speed and skill guys on offense.
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Colin Cowherd
I did, I did, I, I.
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John Middlekauff
Same thing. And I just looked up when you were talking. Kyle Williams ran a 4, 40 with the combine. You know, Henderson ran a 4, 4, 3. It feels like when he's in the open field, he plays faster. So you got two young players who. What? I think Henderson had a 55 yard run today and a 70 yard run.
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Colin Cowherd
And Kyle Williams and he is, he is a big fast athlete. Joe Mixon.
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John Middlekauff
Like I, I do think Tampa has been a little house of cards, right. They have a bunch of injuries right now. They're just not quite the same thing, same team. Mike Evans is. There's an element to him of like the, the heartbeat of their offense. When he's in there, he just gives them a safety net. He's almost like what George Kittle is of the 49ers. Now he's gone. I mean, they're depending on young wide receivers. I just think Baker feels like I have to carry us. It almost feels like a throwback to a couple years ago. He's kind of had to do that all season. Right. I mean they started when they started four and oh, is all the comeback touchdown drives. I, I thought the bigger. If they could get Henderson going with Kyle Williams. What a stud Mike Vrabel is. I mean this guy's got a hardball touch, comes in there immediately. I understand their schedule's been easy, but when you watch him play, it's not like they're just easing into these victories like that was. We're in control. We have some young explosive players and we have turned this quarterback immediately into an MVP candidate.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, it felt like the Buffalo game, you're like, oh, New England's better than Buffalo. Like New England after Baker hit Mecca Abuca. You're like, oh, seven nothing. Tampa. From that point on, New England was the better football team. Control the game.
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John Middlekauff
I've known Sean for a long time and I like him. And I know a lot of people, I think, yourself included, just over the time, like, is this guy good enough for Josh Allen? Today was a moment where you're like, is this guy better than Mike Vrabel moving forward? And is this, in this situation, where is Sean McDermott? If they are a one and done team in the and all of a sudden Mike Vrabel's in the second round or somehow is in the third round playing the Chiefs or something. Is this going to end the Bills coaches tenure because of Mike Vrabel? He might be that powerful.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, I think about it like Kyle Williams, they haven't played him. I mean, that's been one of the things everybody, myself included, Kyle Williams is your fastest, most dynamic receiver. He got a ball down the sideline today. It looked like a track meet. It looked like the combine run. You're like, holy sh. He was gone and then gone. So the thing is, you're a Patriot fan is Williams and Trevion Henderson. They're just now playing regularly. So it's like, you know, and Vrabel, you know, Kyle Williams may not want to block. He's kind of a thin guy. He may not be a blocker. One of the Re. You hear this all the time. Like tight ends have to block, receivers don't, especially the fast ones and running backs, the gifted ones. So, you know, I, I bet you that some of this was Vrabel is.
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Colin Cowherd
You're. We're not putting you back there by Drake May. If you aren't picking, you know, you're not stopping people in the A gap like we're stop putting you on the field because his talent's so remarkable. He just pops when you give him the ball. And I just watched them today. I'm like, oh, wait a minute. We haven't seen the best of New England because these two players change the offense.
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John Middlekauff
I think defensive coaches tend to be like, you know, parents from the 50s or 60s, you know, kind of driving a hard line right there. You know, most offensive coaches, if this guy, if those two guys had been around Kevin O', Connell, Sean McVeigh, Kyle Shanahan, more than likely some of their deficiencies might have still got them some packages. Defensive guys do not care. They have a. And it's. It's always the tug and pull between offensive and defensive guys when they're on the same staff. You know, when one guy's a head coach, I think offensive coaches, and you've known some over the years, I'm sure, that have complained about their defensive head coach vice versa. I think the defensive head coach sometimes wants them to be a little more conservative. There's always kind of a little tug of war there. But I think when you have guys, you know what Mike Fragville does, you know, he does feel a little like he's got the old school hard ass, some Belichickian to him. But he also feels kind of like new and relevant the way the guys like him, the way he's hugging up guys, he's kind of got this perfect blend. He just feels pretty damn good. And, and this team was so bad, not just last year with Gerard Mail, for the last couple years of Belichick. I mean, this team wasn't like a one year train wreck. It felt like they had about what, like 36 months of being like the butt of the league, like from a joke standpoint. So what he has done from a culture standpoint, let alone on the Field. I mean, Drake May went from like, yeah, he's got some talent to holy shit, this guy a Pro Bowler.
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Colin Cowherd
Hey, by the way. And today Drake wasn't 75% completion. Todd Bowles is one of the smartest defensive guys in the league. He and Brian Flores dial up some of the nastiest blitzes. And Tampa was on a buy that was a hard spot for Drake May. That was a, that's. I, I took Tampa today. It's the one game I lost. I thought an alpha buy. Second year quarterback Todd Bowles, Vidavia. You won't be able to run. I'm like, oh, this is going to be a problem. This is a rough spot. And Drake didn't play his best game. I think he had a pick at one point and wrote it down. And not a great pick, but it's like, listen, Harbaugh, Sean Payton, Mike frable, just pay 18 million bucks and get the right coach. Don't Brian Schottenheimer me. Just, just go. You know, when these. Everybody wants to go with coordinators. And don't get me wrong, Ben Johnson or Shane Steichen were so respected throughout the league and had done so well as coordinator. I mean, we, we used to, on a regular basis every week talk about Ben Johnson when he was with the Lions. We're like, who is this guy? This offense is crazy. Shane Steichen, first year, had Herbert out of college. I mean, Tom Telesco is like, that may be the smartest offensive coach I've ever been around. So there are some coordinators that come in. I mean, we know what Steichen did with Philadelphia. He took over the play calling and Philadelphia went from meh to Super Bowl. But by and large, you know, there's only a few guarantees in the league. And one of them is you go get these successful coaches. I've said this with Mike McCarthy, and I don't think he's nearly as good as Peyton Harbaugh or Vrabel. Mike McCarthy would clean the jets up. They wouldn't be great, but he'd clean them up.
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John Middlekauff
They look like, I'd say Giants too, if they're going to fire Dabel.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I mean, McCarthy's a pro. He may be a number two starter. You know, he's not Yoshi, but he's gonna, you know, he's gonna give you seven innings. It's gonna be a professional operation. When you want to enjoy life's simpler pleasures, reach for Green river whiskey. Whether it's rye whiskey or single barrel bourbon, you're getting over a century of craftsmanship packed into every bottle. Hop on over to greenriverwhiskey.com and discover a legend in a bottle today.
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On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress and he can still pack a rally with people a quarter of his age.
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Bernie Sanders
Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people. You know, huge turnouts. People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.
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Katie Couric
His Fighting Oligarchy tour with AOC and other young progressives has become a movement. But is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so.
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Bernie Sanders
Does that sound like a radical idea, Katie? Is that too far left for you?
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Katie Couric
Okay, okay, I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living and of course the government shutdown, not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party.
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Bernie Sanders
To me, the failure of the Democratic Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the real issues.
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Katie Couric
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Dr. Priyanka Walley
Talking about health in a different way.
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Hari Kondabolu
It's not only about what we can do to improve our health, but also.
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Dr. Priyanka Walley
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Hari Kondabolu
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Dr. Priyanka Walley
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Hari Kondabolu
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Dr. Priyanka Walley
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Hari Kondabolu
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Colin Cowherd
You don't know, you don't know.
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Dr. Priyanka Walley
It's going to be a fun ride. So tune in.
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Hari Kondabolu
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Colin Cowherd
Miami 30 Buffalo 13 it was 60 nothing. Dolphins at half, an interesting number is Josh Allen had 3.53 seconds to throw. That's his highest since 2018. Nobody's open, so they didn't make a big move at the trade deadline. And I think everybody thought they should probably add a piece because Kansas City's defense, but they had 90 yards at half. They didn't have a, they didn't pick up a first down on third in the first half. And this is a Miami team we thought quit three weeks ago. We always talk about quarterbacks. You get until the second year, Thanksgiving, second year. I think we've just got to be brutally honest with Sean McDermott here. It's, it's not just Kansas City. There's just too many games where you're just like, I mean, Buffalo should never look like that ever. They should never look like that.
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John Middlekauff
I understand in college when you have two top 10 teams play each other and then the following week you're playing a two win team and you're tied at halftime, like these 19 year old guys. This is a team that's now for the last five years been one of the top, what, two or three teams in the entire league.
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Colin Cowherd
And they've got older players here. I mean, they've got a lot of 27, 28, 29 year olds.
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John Middlekauff
The coach has been there, I think since 2017. Josh has now been the starter for a long time. It's, it's not just on Sean. It's also, you know, the quarterback, you know, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, they take a lot of that responsibility as well. So, so today was embarrassing. I mean, it truly was. It was, it should have been 14 nothing. I think the kicker missed an extra point. It was 14 nothing or 13 nothing before you even blinked. Two had a couple. He threw a beautiful touchdown pass to Jalen Waddle.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes.
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John Middlekauff
And it was like, okay, 14 nothing or 13 nothing? Bill starts slow. I've seen them happen. And then ended up winning 35 to 20 or something. And they never got out of the malaise. And it started raining, it was probably humid and they just looked lifeless. Josh threw one of the worst interceptions I've ever seen him throw. I don't know if he's on the wrong page with the widers. He just threw it right to the, to the wide receiver or to the cornerback. They had an awful fumble early in the game when they were driving. They just looked lost. And that's the type game when your main rival, now who's back is winning and now has a lead, kind of a commanding lead because they Already beat you and their schedule so easy. So they're not going away. And you just look big picture. This is going to be the worst team of the variable era for the next couple of years. When you factor in how young it is.
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Colin Cowherd
Right.
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John Middlekauff
You just listed a couple guys that just started playing their left tackle. It's his rookie year. Their quarterback is a second year. This is the first year. The coaching staffs together so, like their arrows pointing up. And I think it kind of reflects that the Bills can really get up for the Chiefs. And for whatever reason, I remember hearing, like, Houston Rockets, maybe because Kenny Smith say, you know, the sad part is right when we got good, Jordan retired. They could never stop Akeem. And we always played the Bulls well. And if we ever saw them, we would have stopped that streak because they would have had no shot because they had no center. We were a team that. We played them really well. And some. In basketball, it happens a lot, right. Your matchup football kind of happens sometimes. But if you're good enough, whatever. For whatever reason, the Bills match up because their pass rush is good. They treat that game in the regular season like the Super Bowl.
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John Middlekauff
They just look like the best team in the league when they play the Chiefs.
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Colin Cowherd
Yep.
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John Middlekauff
Before and after then, they. They look much more pedestrian. Today, though, was. I. I don't know. I mean, I. I felt like it was one of the more embarrassing performances of The Allen, Sean McDermott, little air.
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Colin Cowherd
I think it may be the most. I thought maybe they lost a few years ago at home on the opener to the Steelers, and they were a favorite. And I was like, what in the hell is that? I thought that game against the Saints this year, it was competitive. I was like, what would bother me today is that Miami in the first half average six and a half yards of play. So in my take is it would be one thing if the offense sputtered. Your defensive coach, John, I've been on this forever. What do you do with your side of the ball? That wasn't just Josh Allen. Like, that defense had no energy. That defense, I mean, it just. They generated this incredible pass rush against Kansas City. And really, I mean, two is one of the easiest guys to rush in the league. And he had time to throw. They ran the ball.
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John Middlekauff
Do you think New England. Are you taking New England as we sit here today? Do you think New England's more likely to win the division?
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Colin Cowherd
New England's got the better coach. I think New England now with Williams and Trayvon Henderson, it's like, oh, I feel like New England now is on the up. Like they're an ascending team. I don't think Buffalo is. I mean we forget before that Kansas City game, I mean we'd seen them, Buffalo go to Atlanta and get worked. I mean they've had. That Saints game they won at home was troubling. Like they've had a lot of. Somebody told me this in the league at the beginning of the year. They said Buffalo doesn't have nearly the roster people give it credit for. They're like James Cook, Josh Allen Oliver, the defensive lineman who's hurt. Who's hurt. They're like, you know, Dawkins the left tackle. I was talking to an exec in the league and he's like, you know, he goes, the better rosters are the Rams and the Eagles and the Lions and the packers and Kansas City, like Ravens. He's like, buffalo's roster is not that good. Josh, left tackle, quarterback, running back, interior D lineman. That's where they went and got Bosa. I mean they've drafted a lot, a lot of draft capital on their defense. That's why they went and got Bosa who played well against, you know, Kansas City. But okay, Seattle 44, Arizona 22. It was 35 nothing. So, you know, it's just impossible to keep that up. And, and Darnold had a couple of just like funny, like bizarre turnovers. That ball bounces off a tight ends helmet. You know, I'm going to throw this to you. I got Pete Carroll and John Snyder, you know, this battled, they battled and there was a little tug of war on Pete's kid and John Snider and I'm not going to go into too many details, but Pete and John, John almost left for Detroit, remember that? Years ago because he wanted his final say. Well, since Pete's been out of the building, John Snyder's two drafts have been a plus. A plus. He is, he is now. And I think John, Jason Light, Howie Roseman. Howie's a deal maker. I'm not sure there's many guys better than John Snyder at just personnel, college personnel, drafting it. There's not a lot of guys better. Again, I think Jason Light in Tampa is really good. But that Seattle roster, I wrote this down. Young, fast, physical. You can turn the sound down, John. Against Washington and against Arizona, it looks like a college mismatch. They are so fast, they are so physical. Darnold's in total control of the offense. Play action, run game, deep game. I don't see the hole. I really don't see the hole with this Team they drafted that safety. That kid's a banger. The South Carolina safety. I don't see the weakness with the team.
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John Middlekauff
I think the point of difference they have. They obviously play the Rams this upcoming week which is an incredible game is their DBs are good and the Rams aren't. I think that's the difference because the offenses are both elite. Pass rushes are awesome. Coaching staff's high end. If you and me were the NFL like the in college how they have the college football committee and you rank them 1 through 12. I would rank Seattle after this week number one. They would be my number one team. And you just. If you just watch them without the sound on obviously today but over the last couple of weeks the. The. The team speed in which they had. I think the. The lob team with Pete was probably the most physical team I've ever seen live. I do think the fastest team I've ever seen live is the Peyton Manning Denver Broncos. Their defense every single guy could run fast. Defensive it was demarcus Ware, Von Miller, Wolf, Malik, Jackson, Trevathan. They had a keep Taliba. Their speed and physicality was just. I've never seen anything and I've saw him live a bunch of times. This team has some similarities to those two teams. Younger kind of taking the league by storm. Every guy. I mean like you said Emin worry he's like six. He is their potential Kyle Hamilton. But they already had some good DBs, right. They drafted the kid Witherspoon from Illinois. They already had Woolen. Obviously their. Their linebacker play is fast. Once they got Ernest Jones their. Their head coach. I mean we talk so much and rightfully so about these offensive coaches. He's got a chance to be pretty special. His demeanor.
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Colin Cowherd
He.
- [59:08]
John Middlekauff
He has a very modern demeanor. You know like when you watch Vrabel. Vrabel is not the throwback of like what I grew up on. Guys screaming he doesn't. He's not as.
- [59:19]
Colin Cowherd
Maybe he's a player's coach.
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John Middlekauff
Yeah. When the doors are shot I think he's on him in the meetings but on the sideline he's very common collected. I would say Mike McDonald. It almost feels like is he on a couple zannies or something like it show. But he. There's no he because he knows like he is. He is very calm and his team reflects that. And I would say this their personnel move of trading Geno and signing Sam is got a chance to be an all timer. I mean that's got a chance to be. Because they didn't Give Sam. I mean he's going to end up probably. I mean he's not going anywhere for a while. They gave him $100 million over three years. I mean it's relative to the other contracts. We've seen Colin around.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, it's 35 million guaranteed. So the salary, the cap hit is just nothing.
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John Middlekauff
JSN looks like Jerry Rice. I knew the guy was good, but this year he is. It's like Puka, by the way, right when. But this guy was. We knew more about JSN than Puka because he was Ohio State and first round pick. But you knew after a couple weeks Puka was a rookie. Like, is this real? And then it just never stopped, you know. Jsn, like is he really this good? And every single week it's like he's unstoppable.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, in J. JSN was like a five star recruit. First round. I think he was a first round.
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John Middlekauff
Receiver pick 20, I think.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. The only question was, is he a one? Everybody knew he was really good. Now you're like, yeah, he's just contested catches speed. Then they go get Rashid Shahid from New Orleans and you know, he now has the offensive coordinator that he had in New Orleans. Now he's in Seattle.
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John Middlekauff
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Again, this is a big play offense. What I like about Seattle, they can grind you down if they have a lead. They can run the football if they have a lead. They're a big play offense. They can play from behind. You know, I'm just, I'm writing this down throughout the course of the game. Jsn, first receiver to a thousand. It's not that weird with Seattle where they average six and a half to seven yards of play. Like it happens regularly. And there is something to be said of trusting your eyes. I think this is now even more than Mike McDonald. I think it's John Snyder's organization. And I've texted Snyder a couple times. He travels. I mean he's at every weekend. He is a. You gotta go to these games. Like they always say to sell a company you have to take a thousand meetings. John Snyder's on a plane every weekend. He, he doesn't scout off the TV or film. He wants to go to the games. And I mean they're just in it. When I watch them play, I'm like, when you're a big play offense and your quarterback has mobility so you can go down the field, the quarterback, you can move the pocket. I don't know, you can grind people with a lead. You know, it's like Detroit, if golf had mobility, and that's the whole, like, golf does it, but Detroit's a big play offense and can grind you down. Just think of Detroit's offense and then if Jared Goff could move, you'd be like, shit, what do you do? But we've seen Detroit do that for three years. I think Seattle, like, if you don't pay attention like we do, obviously, people that do this for a living, shit, man, they're. They're embarrassing teams. These. How often do you get a 35 nothing lead in the first half of a pro football game?
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John Middlekauff
And Arizona had been playing well. Even their record's not that great. They have been in every single game they played this year.
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Colin Cowherd
They control.
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John Middlekauff
A week ago, they. They easily could be, you know, coming into this game, they could have been 6 and 3. I would say the thing with John Schneider, when you think about. We talk about offensive coaches, you're like, if JJ can't play for Kevin o', Connell, that's a JJ issue, not a Kevin issue, right? If you can't play for Kyle Shanahan, that's a U issue. And that skill is why those guys are going to be paid at the top of the market for until they retire from the NFL. John Schneider, he was the guy that pounded the table for Pete against Pete Carroll, for Russell Wilson, and ultimately got him to relent and draft him. Obviously, that changed the course of their franchise when they pivoted off Russell. And remember, John wanted to do it earlier, tried to trade him to the Cleveland Browns so he could draft Josh Allen. That's who he was going to take. Then he trades for Geno or he gets Gino as the backup. And they were cool with, like, I think we can handle this for a little bit. And he was right. Gino was actually. And they got Drew Locke. Remember, they won a Monday Night Football game against the Eagles with Drew Lockdown, who is the worst of this whole group. And then he pivots to Sam Darnold. Like I would say as a quarterback evaluator, John Schneider is as good as it gets from a GM perspective. And if that's going to be the guy that you're going to invest most of your money into as a franchise, his skill, let alone his ability to build the team. It's. I mean, this is now like, how many different iterations of the team. The Lob team, remember, then they transitioned in the late 2010s, they were still good. You know, they weren't. They weren't going to Super Bowls, but they were Never. They didn't have four win seasons. They were winning nine to 11 games. And now, I mean, what do they look like to you? A 14 win team? I mean who's I if Devonte Adams, who kind of hurt his back at the end of the game. We'll have to monitor that throughout the week. I like, I think that's going to be a tough way. Tougher.
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Colin Cowherd
I take Seattle.
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John Middlekauff
I do too.
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Colin Cowherd
I would take it. I think the advantage of Darnold's mobility, I really think in these close games your ability to roll the pocket and make plays. I think it matters because both those defensive fronts, especially the Rams, get a pass rush. I'll take the mobile quarterback.
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John Middlekauff
One more thing. You know, in the NFL, not all these teams have huge home field advantages. One of the advantages, not having to get on a plane. So it's easier on guys body. Seattle, Arrowhead, Buffalo, there's a short list. So if they can get the number one seed or home field, it's a big advantage in Philly. That place is hard to play in. If Seattle can get home playoff games maybe because remember, everyone beat up Sam and he didn't play well those last two games. But they were both on the road in Detroit, which is obviously a hard place to play.
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Colin Cowherd
And then it was the biggest game. That was the biggest Lions game at home in probably 20 years.
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John Middlekauff
I would say I'm 40 years old in my lifetime. It didn't get any bigger and he played bad. And then remember the playoff game because they lose, they're supposed to come to the Rams have to play in Arizona because of the fires. If they get home playoff games, I'm going to like Sam Darnold's chances more because I think people are like, what's he going to do in the playoffs? Like, I don't know. I think, I think he'll be okay this time. If they're going to look like this.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, it's a long flight. It's right on the Puget Sound and that, that I grew up there. It's a wet, cold rain. It's windy, it's on the sound. It's tough. And Darnold by the way, has got a big arm and they run the ball. Darnold ball is going to split through the cold weather. Like if you come up there, you better be ready to throw it because that ball, it's windy and wet in the Pacific Northwest. I want to talk about this game. It was the first game today in overtime. Colts come back 31:24 over the Falcons. Two things jumped out to me one we'll get to later. Pennocks off target throws there must have been 8 to 10 like really off off target. I will say this though. The cultural line was not good. God. Atlanta had seven sacks. So Daniel Jones, but he looked like the old Daniel Jones. Like the fumble issues reverted and he just even when he got bumped out of bounds once he has a major fumble issue. But between. You got to give Chris Ballard credit because they were missing some people today. Jonathan Taylor right now is probably the best back in the league. Warren is a pro Bowler at tight end. He made a huge huge catch late in the fourth quarter. I almost thought they won despite Daniel Jones today. I really felt that.
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John Middlekauff
I totally agree. I thought I'm watching the game at the gym the second half because early I, I it was easier to get up because it starts at 7:30 when the clocks move back for me and Indy came out and just rolling and I was like ah, they're gonna, they're gonna blow him out. And then they started blitzing Daniel Jones. He started, I mean he had some bad. He had an awful fumble where he just gets, he had a kind of look like the Giants.
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Colin Cowherd
Horrible. He had three sacks in this game where he looked like a rookie. It's like Daniel, get rid of the ball.
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John Middlekauff
It felt like they played like 1996 football. Our running back and our tight end is going to carry us. We're not going to throw these bombs to Alec Pierce. We don't have any time to to protect. And Jonathan Taylor, I thought today officially like threw his hat in the ring like he's an MVP candidate. If this team's going to win 13 or 14 games like you're going to run for 2000. He single handedly carried him and Warren. I mean those, those two combination of those two guys I, I thought might have ended. If you tell me we wake up in the morning Raheem Morris has been fired. It was because of those two guys today in Germany. So I'm with you. It's that the Warren pick. God he is his ball skills for a guy that big. I mean Daniel Jones throws it up in his vicinity. Who, who can cover him. There's DBs and linebackers aren't 6 foot 5. You can't get up that they're like the one you're talking about. He is so over his arms. Yeah, he's probably, I mean how, how high do you think that ball is? 7ft in the air. When you talk about his arms extended and the Jonathan Taylor runs. What are you supposed to do. I mean he's, he's a dominant force. But that's a, that's a big win because it felt like they were falling apart. And then Atlanta, you know, takes and then you're like, God, they just traded a first round pick and sauce getting cooked. He dropped a pick. You're like, this is not going well. I thought they were going to lose this game and the headline's going to be you just traded two first round picks for a guy that everyone says can't catch, had a ball just go right through his body and then basically a two point conversion, he's falling on the ground. You know, it's like this guy.
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Colin Cowherd
If you can't cover Drake, Daniel, Daniel Jones does deserve credit. He had that last drive. He had a, he was pretty good late in the fourth quarter. That throw to Warren was a big time throwing a big time catch. So Daniel and maybe at a hand size thing. Daniel had a fumble problem in New York and it reared its head again today. So he's had a. In fact, let me look this up. His turnovers the last two weeks have been absolutely atrocious.
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John Middlekauff
I think he's going to be, he's going to be a guy in the first round. You know, let's say they're the 2 seed. They're going to. Depending on who they're playing in some of these playoff matches. I think a lot of people are going to bet against and this, the, the, the headline is going to be I do not trust Daniel Jones in this playoff game.
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Colin Cowherd
Seven giveaways in his last two games. So it's, it's, it's, it's a natural regression though. I don't want to overreact because he was virtually perfect. And now all of a sudden the Colts O line probably. I didn't check their O line health but probably missing a starter got worked a little today. Atlanta created great pressure. I mean the Colts O line struggled.
- [69:49]
John Middlekauff
Atlanta's defense in defense of them is actually not bad and their pressure this year has been pretty good. They drafted a couple guys in the first round. They have been feisty up front. Honestly, the offense you had mentioned, Penix, he has not looked good. You know, Bo Nix has taken a lot of shit and I'd say Penix looks as every bit as bad as him. His team's not as good but he is skipping ball and I'm a Pennix guy or was. So am I. I probably have to be out. It's just not going to work because a lot of people I know, in the league, Colin, were not Penix people?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, no, I. And it's funny because I listen. Third game this season for Penix, under 180 passing yards. Third game in a row, under 60% completion. Remember, he's 25 years old, so he should be. He's had a lot of snaps between Indiana and Washington. He's had a lot of snaps. I mean, it feels like to me, he also had, you know, he had 45 starts in college. I thought he was more naturally accurate. Like, I just thought he was one of Those guys like C.J. stroud, Justin Herbert. He just throws strikes. You know, he's just a pitcher that throws strikes and he misses a lot. And I mean, Jon Wild left. He must have skipped four balls today. So it's not because he doesn't have the weapons. I mean, he's got two really good receivers. He got a star back. I think their offensive line's okay. He gets decent protection. Again, it's eye test. I don't love what I see now, again, he did not play last year, so I do feel like some. Is he hurrying stuff? And I do think he, he, he feels like he's hurrying stuff. But you, you know, it's. There's some wild pitches here pretty regularly.
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John Middlekauff
Well, remember, he didn't get what he, what was he sacked like six times his senior year at Washington, the year that they went to the national championship. Remember, he didn't get touched. His offensive line won the whatever the more award is. And you get hit a lot more in the NFL. And I feel like once he gets hit, it kind of throws him off. But 12 of 28 in an NFL game against a defense he wasn't playing. The Denver Broncos today. One thing about Indianapolis, I wouldn't exactly call them the 85 Bears on defense.
- [71:57]
Colin Cowherd
Well, like you said, they had Sauce Gardner, but there's a reason they went and got him like their defensive secondary, John was all beat up. They were missing two starters.
- [72:06]
John Middlekauff
So I think the Penix thing, ultimately, what is going to get Raheem Morris and everyone in Atlanta fired. And it would get most people fired when you lose in the NFL because you've whiffed on the quarterback. They paid Kirk Cousins $90 million for two years.
- [72:20]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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John Middlekauff
You know that he has an under.500 record and I think his touchdown to interception ratio is essentially one to one and got benched year one and they're paying him almost $30 million to be the backup. Mac Jones is making, I think $3 million this year. Kirk Cousins is making 27.5. Cousins started one game and they got destroyed. That's a problem. And then the reason you paid him and then a month later you draft this guy. You're like, we love this guy. And you're watching these other court, even JJ McCarthy who I don't really like, I see more like his physical attributes. I'm watching Pennix, I'm like, where is this arm? He had Ryan Grubb. Listen, Ryan Grubb in Seattle, in the pros. He'd never coached in the pros. It did not go well. I watched Ryan Grubb in college. I mean he had Ty Simpson yesterday slinging that thing against lsu. I go, Ryan Grubb's a big time coach and I watch him with Zach Robinson coaching. Sometimes in the NFL you're going to get some. Not every guy is Bill Walsh and you. Penix feels like they got no clue what's going on. He's playing bad, feels like he's lost his confidence and like you said, he's not an upside guy. He was. This was my issue with them signing Cousins. If you love Penix at the combine or whatever, he is a ready made plug and play player. He's not. Let's, let's. Aaron Rodgers had to fix the ball placement. Penix was just, he looked, he plays like he's played probably since junior high. He just. The problem is it's not translate. I knew so many scouts that because I've just again I'm a west coast guy, root for him. They were a fun team to watch. This guy's really grown. I think he's going to be a good NFL player. Most people that went through there, obviously the injuries but they said when you watch him live, when you go to practice his physical attributes, you know he threw a beautiful deep ball in college and they threw a lot of bombs because they had obviously great wide receiver talent.
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Colin Cowherd
Polk.
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John Middlekauff
Yeah, yeah. You know Rome and McMillan that plays for. I mean they have three NFL wide receivers and one Rome when it's not freezing cold, pretty damn good. And you watch him in the pros like you said Mooney Pitts is actually pretty good. Now obviously Drake London is a high end one Bijan can catch the ball. 12 completions against the Colts. It's just that's, that's bad. Today I thought was like this is. This thing needs to be nuked again.
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Bernie Sanders
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Katie Couric
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Bernie Sanders
Does that sound like a radical idea? Is that too far left for you?
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Katie Couric
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Bernie Sanders
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Colin Cowherd
I want to talk a college topic. Speaking of panics, I want to pivot to this Kaylin DeBoer. So I had said when he took over for Nick Saban, because I think Ohio State's the best team in the country. I think Bama's second, Indiana's third. I don't buy A&M. A&M's beaten a lot of teams that have fired their coaches, like Arkansas, Florida, Auburn, like that. They're kind of, they're kind of facing a lot of these wobbly teams. So I think Ohio State's the best team. Bama second. So Kaylin DeBoer goes 67, three at Sioux Falls, okay, 25 and three at Washington Fresno State, briefly. Then he goes 17 and five at Bama so far. And one of his losses was to Ohio State in the playoff. Nobody was beating them. Go ask Tennessee. And he lost the game at Oklahoma. Night game. They played like, got into a big hole, whatever. But Bama does not have a lot of nil money. And even though he replaced Saban, he did have to change the culture. And you know this, John. You can replace a good coach. It doesn't matter. You're still bringing in what you. You may run a different, completely different offense. The head coach probably took his defensive coordinator or offensive coordinator. You have to build a staff. Doesn't matter if you're replacing Saban. It's hard, you know, guys are leaving, you're bringing in new people. You don't know. You don't, you don't know half your roster. You haven't watched film. When you get that job on your roster, you don't know what you have. I like Ty Simpson, 6, 2, 2, 10. Not a big physical presence, not super mobile, good arm, not. Not special. He may get drafted number one, two or three. And I think Ty Simpson's okay. I don't see the wow trait, but he's, he was a Good high school player. I mean, he didn't do it first three years at Alabama, he was 29 of 55, no touchdowns. He didn't blow people away, I think. And you look at Bama's schedule, I think maybe the panics thing is his coach is a fricking rock star.
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John Middlekauff
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
I think a lot of it is not just Grub. I think it's Caitlin DeBoer because I watched Ty Simpson and everybody's in love with him. And I'm like, I don't get what's. Well, I don't get the great thing.
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John Middlekauff
I think they're a powerful duo because last year something was off with. With Bama. In fairness, they had a quarterback that I would say Jalen Milroe doesn't Exactly scream Kaylin DeBoer, you know, and, you know, so he gets a re more of a pocket passer. Even last night that DC for LSU is actually pretty good. Blake Baker, he's been awesome for them. As they start hitting Ty Simpson, you look like he's not handling this very well. He's getting crushed. Ryan Grub and is. When him and Kaylin DeBoer are together, they are borderline unstoppable. I mean, who's. I would say the only guy that's beat him in recent memory is like, you know, the Florida State thing. Give him a little bit of a pass starting.
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Colin Cowherd
They went to Georgia and beat Kirby in Athens for sure.
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John Middlekauff
And if they played Florida State, host him. If they played Florida State today, they'd beat him by 50. So it's like that was one of those. That's probably the most, you know, bad game. Looking back in five years, how the hell did that happen? But I do think that Kalin, when he's had Ryan. Ryan Grubb with him, that offense is an unstoppable because last year I think their quarterback coach who kind of went back down, who's also been with the crew, you know, it's just sometimes it's difficult. This guy has been calling plays. But Kaylin last night, what he's done with Ty Simpson, I mean, Ryan Williams was supposed to be like, they're Justin Jefferson. He's not even their best wide receiver. They got multiple other guys. I think one concerning part. I like Texas A and M more than you. I think if Texas A and M played Indiana on a mutual. On like a. You know, like the equivalent. What's going to happen in the playoffs. I would like their chances in that, but we're going to learn a lot more about them. They Play Texas. Coming up, they're going to be in the SEC championship game against Obama. Against the Georgia, we'll really learn how good they are. I think they're pretty good. But I think Alabama's offensive passing game with those two guys, I mean lsu that that was their last Hail Mary of a respectable game. That's a rivalry game. I McElroy said on the broadcast, he said this is by far the most physical game. You played Alabama, this game means so much. Auburn's the rival, but LSU's are equal in terms of we recruit the same guys. Now in the transfer portal, I'm sure they're looking at the same guys to recruit, but I think Kaylin dubois, I questioned moving around, right? The personnel or the personality. West Coast Dakota guy in the south.
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Colin Cowherd
That was my question. Midwest guy going to the South, I know Jim McElwaine. You go to the south, it's just different. It's relentless. It's kind of. It's not realistic. And you're replaced like replacing Howard Stern in FM radio, you're replacing Saban. And people just don't understand that you've got to redo the staff and Bama can't now afford Bama is struggling to.
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Colin Cowherd
When you watch Bama today, I think A and M's got as good athletes or better. I think Texas has as many good athletes. When Saban was there pre Nil, you'd watch Bama and Georgia was the only school that matched up that even looked the part. There's six or seven teams in college that look like Bama now have the same level of Ohio State's got better players than Alabama.
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John Middlekauff
Do you know what they respect though, in the sec? Do you win? I mean, do you win? And now he's winning and no one cares. So if you win, whether you're from the Dakotas, whether you're from Fresno or whether you're from Egypt, they don't give a shit. Now I also think they the Saban personality is kind of what he was winning and he had just this he was a tornado of alpha. I mean, for a guy that's 5 foot 11, it's not like Saban is built like Mike Vrabel, but everyone quivers when he walks in the room. That's not really DeBoer's thing. I knew people that played for him at Fresno State. They're like, you know, he's much more like intellectually quiet. They're like, jeff Tedford is much more of a hard ass screaming at you that's not really DeBoer's demeanor. So it's clearly. And maybe that demeanor of Saban, it doesn't work as much unless you know he was unique because he had a resume. Him and Urban Meyer like those days.
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Colin Cowherd
Are kind of over.
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John Middlekauff
Dan Lanning players coach. Lane Kiffin kind of players coach. You know, Signetti is kind of a throwback but I would imagine players love playing for him. So yeah, it's what he's done at Alabama that's, that's pretty been. It's been fun to watch because I thought Ty Simpson like this little guy. I remember watching Florida State thinking this is not going to work. You watched him last night just sling touchdowns. Like wow, what a job.
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Colin Cowherd
By the way, that Fernando Mendoza throw to beat Penn State in the back of the end zone. That final drive may have been the throw of the year, the toe of the year. I came out of that game. I think Indiana's really well coached. I think Mendoza is a really good college quarterback. And they've got playmakers. I don't know what the ranking was on these recruits, but they just have a lot of football players. They have like when you watch Indiana's defense, I don't know if they have a bunch of NFL guys, it's just a bunch of highly productive, tough nosed football players to tackle really well. They're in the right spot. I don't know if they're four and five star guys. They don't look necessarily the part but they don't miss a lot of tackles. They got worked in the second half. Penn State moved the ball up and down the field on Indiana. Like you could tell Penn State had more four and five star guys. That offense with a backup quarterback just ran past chunk plays up and down. But I'll give, I'll give Fernando Mendoza credit that, that final drive. He made a couple of great throws and you get why. I mean like that's when you watch a college quarterback like that, that throw the back of the end zone was high, so only one guy in the stadium could catch it. You know, in the NFL, throw to the end zone, you throw low front of the end zone, high back of the end zone. And I watched that and I'm like that's an NFL throw. That's a, that's a big time throw.
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John Middlekauff
A little more graceful probably Omar Kelly Jr. But it had a little Montana, Dwight Clark in the back of the end zone. You just put it up in the back of the end zone off the back foot. But I, I do think, you know you look at Mendoza, you look at Dante Moore on his game winning drive. Yes, I had a theory yesterday. It was kind of blown up once Washington lost to Wisconsin. But do you think Oregon and Washington are more equipped to play some of these late October November games? They, they practice in the spring and now at home in colder weather than let's say USC and ucla. So when they're going to some of these games, it's not going to be, it's going to be colder. But they're used to practicing if they want to practice outside in wet and cold.
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Colin Cowherd
No USC in that Iowa weather. I wouldn't, I wouldn't.
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John Middlekauff
Oh, they lose, they lose that game 10 out of 10 times. They could not win that game.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean I said when Oregon and Washington came in, I'm from there. That is Big Ten weather. It's wetter than cold. But I mean Seattle and Eugene, November, it's, it's raining sideways. So yeah, I think Oregon's personnel, they're more than equipped to handle it. I thought that was a gut check win. Oregon was missing. I think their top three receivers, I could be wrong but yeah, they were.
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John Middlekauff
I think they were in an offensive lineman.
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Colin Cowherd
I think too they were a mess. I mean they basically in the second half until that final drive, they were just like, we're just going to run the football. We just want to get out of here. We got a lead. We just want to get out of the stadium healthy. So they were falling apart that wide receiver. And I think that's a much harder win than people think. You go to Iowa, Iowa, you know it's, it's. Iowa's got a good old line. Iowa can run the ball. The Iowa's got six pros. They always have six pros on their team. So. And it's pissing raining sideways. I thought it was a really impressive Oregon win.
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John Middlekauff
I think winning on the road in college, in the Big Ten, in the sec, like winning at Auburn is very impressive. Winning at Iowa in November 8th is a great win. Not a good win, a great. That. That feels like one of the better Oregon regular season wins in a long, long time like that. That was. If you come away anything odds Iowa, they're going to win nine games. But who do they beat? Well, they probably got four guys on defense. They're going to start in the NFL. They have one of the more respected programs from GMs and coaches in the NFL and they win eight or nine games for a reason in that conference. Like they're a. Well, they. And how cold it Is this is what I say about the Caleb Williams thing today. I don't think people realize you're in Chicago. What was the weather today? I mean, is it snowing?
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Colin Cowherd
I woke up with snow on my lawn.
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John Middlekauff
It's.
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John Middlekauff
You know how hard it is to play football in that. I just. How cold your feet are. Your hands are as skill. Guys, that was the throw. Mendoza made some huge throws on that final drive. I would say Dante Moore's. That throw he made down the right sideline.
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Colin Cowherd
Those.
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John Middlekauff
Those couple throws from Mendoza and Moore's throw there. That's as good as you get. That's as good as it gets.
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Colin Cowherd
No, I mean, to me, Dante Moore and Mendoza have separated. Those are the two best college quarterbacks. If they come out, they're 1 and 2 in some order. I. I like Dante Moore's wiggle. He moves really well. Really impressive. All right, John Hard Rock. Bet I have not been good on Monday Night Football. I've had a great year. Blazing 5. I keep taking all these favorites in Monday Night Football. So Green Bay, Lambeau at home, minus now one and a half. I like Philadelphia in the points. I liked it when it was two and a half better than one and a half, but it's off a buy. I felt last time they played Philadelphia really found themselves. I like their roster. I think my concern with Green Bay is what are they? They've got some key injuries now. Tucker Kraft gone for the year. I think he's a Pro bowl tight end. Reed's been banged up. I think Philadelphia has found their identity and I'm not sure Green Bay offensively knows what there is. I like Philadelphia to win outright.
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John Middlekauff
I've been going against you on Monday night, but I'm going to ride with you. I think there's a chance if the Eagles are up 14 to 3 or 14 to 7 going, I think you get some booze. I think there is growing pressure on the floor, losing these games that they should win as big favorites. Now, like you said, the Eagles aren't only. How often do the Eagles fly under the radar coming into a big game? But they've added Jalen Phillips. They added a couple corners. J O Alexander. I'm with you. I like the Eagles in this spot because I think the pressure is all on Green Bay.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, buddy. Great job.
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John Middlekauff
See you, Colin.
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Colin Cowherd
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