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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Colin Cowherd Podcast - Chiefs Start 0-2 After Loss To Eagles, Will Bears BENCH Caleb Williams? Colts & Cowboys Better Than Advertised, Brutal Loss For Broncos
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You know, I thought going into that, that drive where Travis hits off his hands and they pick it off and they take it to the 50 and I mean that tackle Josh Simmons running down the field to save the game. I thought of Kansas City scored there. Now I don't know if they could slow down Philly. They had that time but I mean you just never know with Saquon and like you said, some big playmakers, they were just going to have to win that game on guile toughness and it was going to be if they had pulled that off. Let's say Kelsey catches it or that doesn't happen and they score just an incredible championship like metal type game for them. But they don't have much right now. You know, Worthy being hurt, Rice being suspended, you, you know that I thought Travis was having a good game until that moment. Obviously Patrick missed, you know, Thornton earlier in that drive where he ended up hitting him, which might have given them a little more time. They wouldn't have had to force it. Let's face it, Kansas City right now, I expected defensively, they got shredded last game against Herbert and, and her shredded them in the super bowl. So I, I knew that they were going to bring it defensively, but offensively, I mean they, they got an old Kelsey Hollywood Brown. I mean their running backs are okay, they run hard, but are they starting on most good teams in the league?
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Yeah, I mean, I think they'll be fine when they get Rashid Rice back in four weeks. I think they will. I think they'll find their way. Denver losing a game they should have won today, that's a huge break for them. So I mean that, that game ends up being big for them, big time.
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One in Monday Night Football. Someone has to lose between the Chargers and the Raiders. So you're not, they're not running away with you.
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Yeah, but I, I did feel, and you know, Chiefs fans don't want to hear this, but I felt like Sirianni and Jalen hurts. Sirianni was coaching with a lot of confidence. Like when they, when they took a lead, his whole thing was, guys, we can just ground this out. Let's not take any big, I mean they didn't take one big shot down the field to Devonta Smith and they hit on that. But I felt, Philadelphia's kind of felt like, okay, we're on the road, we have the better roster, we're going to grind these guys out in the second half. And it was just one of those things, especially after that interception on the deflection. And let's be honest, if you have a great coach, great coordinator spags and a great quarterback at home, after you were humiliated in the super bowl, the game was going to be close. The line was one and a half. It was, I said it Friday on the Herd. I'm like, guys, it's going to be a close game late and Philadelphia will situationally get a key first down or four and win. So the game kind of looked like I thought, but I thought Philadelphia, I felt in the fourth quarter, John, they felt they had the game. It's like they brought in a closer in baseball and they kind of, I mean, how many times did they Use the tush push today. Seven, nine.
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Yeah, a lot, A lot. Well, Brady mentioned it though, on the goal line play where the two guys jumped off size, they didn't call it. And that, that obviously was a huge play in the game. I do think the Chiefs, they gave everything they have. They just don't have much right now. And one elephant in the room is Kelsey's old now. Now, granted, he was having a good game relative to what he's been in the regular season, but man, that play where the dude picks it off and takes it to midfield and they end up scoring was a crippling moment for a team. This is not the 2019, 20, 20, 2021 version. They cannot score against, let's face it, they're playing Vic Fangio, who's one of, if not the best defensive coordinator in the league, with just a really good defensive personnel. Right. I mean, you see Jordan Davis looks, that guy physically looks fantastic. Obviously Jalen Carter is one of the best players. You know, Vaughn, all their, you know, defensive backs. Mitchell's a really good player. So that's a tough loss. I mean, that's, that's pretty devastating because you threw everything you had. Your coaching was at a high level. Your quarterback was just trying to will his way and you're just still not good enough, right? So you've had two straight weeks, right? You know, the Eagles are going to be one of the best teams in the league all season long. The Chargers, obviously, if Herbert's going to play at that level, they're going to be an awesome team. And you've lost two games, right, against really good teams. That's where it's like you hope once these guys come back, Rice off the suspension. You know, if Worthy can get healthy, you're just going to have to win these games off guile and toughness. But eventually you kind of run out of gas, right?
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And Denver's got a better roster, but Denver gave that game away late today against Indy. Three dumb penalties in the last 4:20. So again, you get a break in division and the Chargers probably beat the Raiders. So, you know, I, I still contend they're going to be a wild card team in this division. They'll be fine. All right, time to look at this weekend's tastiest matchup in this week's Sunday night Food Ball brought to you by Uber Eats, a company I use all the time. A game that was hard to watch, but I watched almost all of it. Detroit 52, bears 21 outside of Roma, Dunze for the Bears. Not Much worked. You know, I was. And by the way, the Lions, they go for it. So not kicking field goals, that's just who they are. That's Dan Campbell. So you got to get over that Bears fan. But I got to tell you, I watched that game today and after the first drive, take the first drive out. Last couple of weeks, Bears have looked fine. It's a timing offense and Caleb Williams does not appear to see the field. Once he's off script and it just becomes ad libbing. It's backyard football. I don't think this is going to work. I don't. It's the second week in a row, the first series. Again, they dial up. They got about eight to 10 plays. It looks fine, it's very tight. But how many plays can you script? And then they go off script. And he. Clearly, Caleb doesn't see the field particularly well.
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And.
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And then he. Then he's flushed out of the pocket. He made six, seven, eight throws today. Rolling to his right, he just kind of threw it up for grabs. Couple were picked, a couple were caught. But you know, I'm looking at my notes here and yeah, I just keep writing. They're ad libbing again. Ad libbing. I mean, I did just nothing about it except Roma Dunze. You'd feel good. By the way, Luther Burden, Missouri. Did he play? Did he suit up? Loveland. The kid from Michigan, Cortland Loveland. Or is it Loveland Courtland? I forget the Michigan, Michigan tight end.
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He had no, he had no catches.
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So, I mean, like, they have weapons. They've drafted good players. They can't get them the ball. I think this thing could go sideways real fast.
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Do you know what I wrote down? I watched two documentaries in the last week. Billy Joel and Charlie Sheen. And whenever they get married, you could see the divorce coming from a mile away. Especially with Charlie. And in this situation, I've been saying it from. This doesn't just speak for quarterbacks in the NFL. You could be a talented player and Caleb to me is a major question mark. But we have seen hall of Fame guys get with the wrong coordinator and it not work. Scheme is in basketball, whatever plays you're running, if I'm a great player, you're going to make it work. And I'm not going anywhere. That's not the way football works. Then you factor in. Like you said, there was a interception he threw today. There was classic usc. He rolls to his right, hero ball, throws an awful pick. It leads to a touchdown. I can't remember if it was 1414 at the time or 2114. But it was one of those plays they show Ben Johnson getting really mad. That cannot happen. Right. Obviously they're going to be plays where nothing's there. The Lions are going to be hard to beat at home. I like the Lions a lot today in this game, but I didn't expect to see 50 to 20 or whatever the final score was. But this is a, this is a marriage that is not meant to be. Their styles do not mesh up. And we have seen time and time again that these coordinators with quarterbacks, when I do not pick you. Here's the thing with, with Bo Nix, who threw a bad second half pick. He played an excellent first half, but Sean Payton is tied to him. That's his guy. He loved him. Right. There is a, like that power of when I draft you, when I believed in you from before you become an NFL player is powerful. That is not. Ben Johnson took this job. Maybe intrigued by Caleb, but you see through two weeks, his, his mannerisms on the sideline with his face and it's. This was neighbor flu's game. I mean, this was pretty embarrassing. It's not all Caleb's fault. I'm. This was not like he was worse last week. But this is not this. The Bears are a joke. Colin, you and I have been talking the organization. I wrote down Ryan polls is this. Is this roster the most overrated roster we've heard in that last couple years? Listen, the Lions are missing players from last year and that looked like Georgia playing Cal Poly or something. It was crazy.
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Yeah. And it's funny, I, I remember before Caleb got drafted, a good friend of mine is Steve Keim. And I said, you know, what do you make of jumping in the stands for Caleb Williams with his mom and crying and the fingernail polish. And Steve's not a real judgmental guy. And Steve was like, don't love it. He go. I'm not saying he goes, you know, if a guy's talented, he's talented. He goes, but he's a very emotional player. And he goes, you know, and Steve has taught me this through the years. Like quarterback's one of those positions where you really need somebody that's even keel and puts out fires. Football's an incredibly emotional game. And as your teammates are getting emotional and the coaches are getting emotional, you know, when you're on. Tom Brady loved to celebrate. But in the moment of a game, Tom was very even keel. And Caleb's a very. You can see his sideline demeanor. He plays with a ton of emotion and he gets really amped up. He also lose. I think sometimes Caleb loses confidence when I watch him. Like his accuracy is all over the map. So that feels like a confidence and mechanics issue. And I don't know, I just look at it and I think this is a. This coach wants a certain quarterback. Stylistically probably much more like Sean Payton, where you can augment the timing game with, I mean, Bo Nixon. Sean, Bo moves. They move the pocket a lot for Bo Nix, as you should. But there's. I sat there today and my notes are all negative on Chicago.
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There was a couple plays a day in and I'll take the L on Jalen hurts. I never thought in a million years he would be a functional NFL quarterback, let alone a Super bowl champion. And we can debate where he ranks or whatever, but there were a couple plays today where Spags brings the entire house and he sits in there to the last second and he throws his one on one matchup and he's going to get just Molly whopped. And one he hit the Smith and I think he missed another one. But it's just this guy just kind of knows what he's doing. And he's a athletic ad lib in theory, but he can play in big spots. Caleb, when sometimes there's pressure and there's nothing you can do, you got to kind of scramble. There are times where it's just like he's just taken off. For years. Mark Sloth was one of the only guys saying everyone acts like these offensive linemen in Seattle suck. Maybe some of it's Russell Wilson, right? And remember, he would just run into sacks. And you watch him today when that head goes down and you just scramble into guys that is quarterback one on one that the coaches hate, right? Head down and his head goes down and then he moves all the time like Mahomes. Whether he misses or makes the throw, his head's always up, moving around. Jalen hurts head always. Even Kyler. Kyler's head is up now he scrambles, probably sometimes at the wrong time, but his head's up, looking to throw. Caleb just looks in the ground and then it becomes I, I, this. There's no way this is sustainable. Obviously you start losing like this, but Ben Johnson's not going down with the ship with this guy. Why? Because Sean Payton will go down with Bo Nixon, right? That Andy Reid will go down with Mahomes. I'm not comparing those two situations. But my point is I'm all in on this guy. You can't convince me after A couple weeks that Ben Johnson is going to be all in with this guy for 17 games. It's not possible. They're clearly the worst team in there. I mean, the packers look like a juggernaut. We saw the Lions. Turns out they're not as bad. Why? Because the packers are really good. And we'll see how Minnesota looks tonight. But clearly Minnesota is just. They just beat the Bears. So, I mean, they're just a better operation. The Bears are in major trouble going.
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Yeah. And it. And I, and I. There's a reason in the preseason that Ben Johnson made a point. I mean, remember we came on this podcast and we said he was glowing with Tyson Bajan. He's so smart, man. He's having a great camp. And about a week later, they sign him to a very big backup contract. I think Caleb gets one more start. And if it's ugly, can Ben come out and go, listen, Caleb's going to be fine. You sell that to the media. But he needs a week off. He needs to get some stuff right. We need to figure out a way to get this ship going. I could see one more start. I really could. And then you go to Tyson Bajan.
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I would say you're crazy because once you bench them, you're done. But we just saw last year and who knows? I mean, Bryce Young is any good or not, I have my reservations at this point, but Panthers just did it and he was the number one overall pick as well. So we. There's precedent in the league of like, hey, you can bench a guy, bring him back. What are the Bears going to do? Lose more games? I mean, what, what are we talking about at this point? So, yeah, I would say moving forward, everything's on the table. And if you're Ben Johnson, like, you clearly don't care about feelings. You know, the one thing I didn't quite realize, he's wired, you know, he's not like a loosey goosey offensive coach, you know, like Kevin O'. Connell, Sean McVeigh always smiling like he feels more like a Shanahan son, like kind of angry. Never smiles like this. This is just. It's way. I bet against it to jump from the jump. It's way uglier than I thought. And today was like a referendum not just on Caleb, the entire organization. I mean, Ryan polls, the roster thing.
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I've watched Pennix. I would make a bet now that he can Play. I've watched J.J. mcCarthy to some degree, and it helps that he has Kevin o' Connell and Brian Flores, but he'll be able to play. Bo Nix can play. Jaden's a star. Drake May doesn't have a ton of pocket presence, but again today he, he moves the chains. I don't think he's great. I think he needs another year. I mean, that's what they said about Drake May when he came in. He is unrefined, but it is very possible. From what I've seen and it's not close. We're going to have five hits and one miss and the number one guy is going to be the worst quarterback in the class.
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I, I, I think the thing with Caleb Williams. Yeah, I mean it's, it's sure headed that way right now. I mean he's, he's a disaster. I, I don't care what stats you give me last year is. I think when you have that great of an arm and Caleb has a fantastic arm, I think sometimes you, and which is human nature, maybe you struggle to develop other parts of your game. And the touch on his ball, to me that's glaring. Like he just has no touch on the ball. And he's one of those guys that feels like he really struggles to kind of throw a softball, a change up. Because watching him play, did you realize he was this good of an athlete in college? Like he's, I knew he could scramble around, but he moves really well in person.
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When you see him, his head, his shoulders, he's six feet tall. He feels when you're around him like he's 6, 4. He is thick and powerful.
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And wasn't that the thing with young Russ Wilson? It's like, wait, hey, he's got a huge arm, throws a great deep ball. But Russ had a lot of touch and maybe it was that. Was he a second baseman? Yeah, he had some feel to him. And you watch Caleb like he could not play second base. That ball would be Chuck Knobloch all over the place. And that to me is where you get the Ben Johnson stuff is like, well, a huge part of his offense. And his entire scheme is touch, place. Look at, look at Jared Goff today. A lot of it, it's, I mean he threw a couple bombs, but it's a lot of just get the ball out of your hands, couple steps, throw it across the middle, hit guys in stride. Even if you miss a little bit, throw it behind, give him a catchable ball. Caleb throws some balls that even Randy Moss or you know, Jerry Rice at their prime would have, would have a problem catching.
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Yeah, he rolls out a lot. I, I think you're the one point you made that I really agree with is that he just puts his head down and he is now a running back and then they're just, it's just not working again. Roma Dunz is a very good player, but where's Luther Burden, this kid from Missouri, I mean Colston Loveland, you know, the tight end from Michigan. Where are they? I mean it's just, you've got to use, I mean I'm watching all these. Bo Nix is getting everybody touches for the Denver Broncos. Franklin, the Oregon kid, Mims, everybody's the tight ends. I mean he's spraying the ball around, everybody's getting touches. I mean in Chicago it's like if you're the gm, you gotta be watching this thinking, bro, these are good players. So I'm almost interested in watching Tyson Bajan. I think offensively I think they actually have some skill and they're just not, they're not. Caleb's not equipped to get him the ball.
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Well, look at and I'm sure we'll talk about this game is the thing that stood out to me now, whether they got lucky to win the game, we could probably argue all day long. Indianapolis Colts Obviously in a perfect world you would get a star quarterback, but if you just get me a point guard that can get me double digit assists even if he can't score now. And Daniel Jones actually is playing pretty well this year, but he's get. They got good players, they got three or four wide receivers, they got this top 10 or more in the tight end because he went after leveling, he was making plays all day. They have a star running back and you're watching a guy just distribute and you're like this team's pretty physically gifted on their skill position, right? But you didn't feel that with Anthony Richardson because balls are skipping, he's running, he's getting sacked and Daniel Jones just get it to the guys, get it to the guys. They're just making plays.
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They were 10 for 10 in their first 10 possessions this year. And to your point, their roster is excellent. I don't think Indy's a great team, but it's a prime example is they have a good roster and they're using every player on their roster. Offensively, every single one is contributing. That was this week's Sunday Night Football brought to you by Uber Eats. When football makes you hungry, get game day deals on Uber Eats. I do every week. The official on demand delivery partner of the NFL. Order now.
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It did. Here's the endless I'm not trying to diminish what we witnessed. It was really, it was fun throughout the game. His pick had a little, I would say reminiscent of like that farve pick in a playoff game out of nowhere. Cause he's playing a great game and all of a sudden the ball down the middle of the field. The Cowboys defense could just be horrendous. Like they could be really, really bad because it's not normal to throw go routes over and over and you don't do that against any other team. And I think Olson pointed this out like there is no disputing. In his heyday he was as good of a deep ball, go ball airing it out quarterback as we've ever seen. I mean definitely of his era, he's the best. I mean you see Mahomes overthrow. I mean he throws a beautiful go route and it was fun to watch. I also think that there was a moment that got the Cowboys, they have this weapon. I mean the kid didn't even play college football. He was a Notre Dame soccer player. Colin, you've been watching football longer than me. When have you ever seen people comfortable kicking 60 plus yard field goals? I mean that's, this is unheard of. I mean that would have been good from 70 yards. But the Giants, you know, part of zone defense is you go to spots right there. There's a point in time in football where it's like you can't just drop to your landmark when the game is on the line and Ferguson's running right down the field, move over a couple yards and cover them. They just gave Dak Prescott and ferguson like a 20 yard gain and it put Brent and it's like this is, that's low level football and that, that play won't be talked about but you should never allow them. And even Olson's like, why are they playing so far off? You're just giving them, they got good skill players. I mean the Giants should have. I can't even imagine if you're Brian Day ball. Like if I can't win this game, what game am I going to win?
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Yeah, and I, and I've defended Brian Dabel, but there were 26 penalties in this game. I thought the Giants multiple times had this game won. I will say this, I was harsh. I, you know, maybe I'm too harsh sometimes, but I, you know, Brian Schottenheimer had not interviewed for a head coaching job in 14 years. And the people in the league that I talked to, he's an old school offensive coach now he's an offensive coach, but he's very old school. He's not innovative and creative. He's not, you know, he's not like a lot of these guys that we, you know, liam Cohen's or McVeigh or a Kevin O'. Connell. But I will say he is a walk around coach where he lets his assistants coach. Now maybe that bites him later. But I gotta tell you, when I watch Dak, Dak is comfortable. George Pickett is made an immediate impact they're getting the ball to CD Lamb. I think their offensive line's playing pretty well.
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It definitely is. Yeah.
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Their secondary is not great. I mean, just their defensive personnel isn't great, but their offensive personnel is okay. And they look fairly well coached. I always judge this. Are you getting the ball to the right people? They are. They're getting the ball to the right players. And you know, I'll say this for Dak, I mean, I think his numbers, 33 of 45, 293 yards. I think, you know, sometimes you have these surgeries and you're never the same. And sometimes you have them, they clean stuff up. I think Dak's got some juice. I think he's. I think he looks really alive and really active. And even though they're only 1 and 1 and could be 02, they went straight up against Philadelphia, played him as close or better than Kansas City, and they won a game. They could have lost all those lead changes. I think Dallas, even though they're just one and one, is one of the surprises of the league so far. They look very competent.
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Well, I'll say this, George Pickens, for the majority of playoff teams, I don't think they would mess with. I can't see Sean McVay dealing with them. I can't see Sean McDermott dealing with them because they're be plays that are there to be made. And he just kind of like whatever kind of puts his hands up. But then he also makes really good plays once the ball is in his hands. And listen, when you are the Cowboys coach, you don't pick the players. You have nothing to do with the roster. You just coach the team. And they are force feeding him the ball, you know, and he has added an element to their team that, let's face it, they didn't have last year because they didn't have a number two wide receiver. So to go along with CD Lamb, Ferguson's a good player. Javante Williams, he was a hyped guy coming out of college, had that bad knee injury. He's playing, he just gives them. I mean, they did not have a running back last year. I mean, they had no running back. So you get him. Like you said there, if you told me Brian Schottenheimer took over the Bears, like, he would be done from the beginning, like, like most guys probably. But some of these, he. Dak is a professional quarterback and if he's going to be healthy, that is, you know, it's. It's a pretty good landing spot now. Now defensively, I Mean, how many games are you going to win? 43 to 40. Final score.
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I mean, by the way, so they're.
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They're going to lose a lot of games because they can't stop a soul. But offensively, which is his side of the ball, they have been really good through two games. I mean, really good.
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Yeah. And I. And I. And again, it's, you know, it's hard to predict who's going to work. Half of these coordinators don't work at all. Liam Cohen today with Jacksonville. Jesus. He's barking at Trevor Lawrence. They got.
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Oh, yeah.
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Brian Thomas doesn't want to be shying away from contract. That thing could unravel. It's Jacksonville. It could unravel by next week. You know, Zach Taylor can't win in September. Burrows hurt again. I mean, there's a lot of offensive coaches, we don't know how good they are, so. And a lot of, you know, it's just very hard in this league to know. We knew Andy Reid was going to succeed when he went to Kansas City. We knew Harbaugh was going to succeed with the Chargers. Dan Quinn felt like, you know, he knows what he's doing with Cliff Kingsbury. But I would. Brian Schottenheimer, I got to be fair about this, is I didn't think it was going to work. I thought he was over his head. But, you know, here's the other thing. Dak was good with Jason Garrett. He was good with Mike McCarthy, and Dak is good with Brian Schottenheimer. Dak's pretty good.
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Yeah, he is. I just think, like, we just have to embrace. He is what he, you know, he's the seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth guy. He's never going to be a top five quarterback. And if you get him, the personnel, a running game, the offensive line. Here's where I'll give Jerry Slash his personnel people credit. Look at the Bears. Like, Rome had a good game. And I'd say relative to where he's been drafted, pretty underwhelming, right? Relative to. I think people were hoping he'd be a superstar and we'll see. But, like, if you could do that over, they would have taken offensive lineman. If you were the Bears, taken a tackle, the kid from Penn State. Right. If they could do it, that's who you would take. Jerry, they are valuing. You know, they traded Micah Parsons, but they drafted him high. They draft pass rushers, defensive linemen, offensive linemen. Like, they do have the right philosophical belief on how to build.
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And John, remember when the Lakers traded Shaq, they were going to lose that trade the first two years because Shaq went to Miami. But it was the right decision. Shaq fell apart physically, didn't practice as hard. So you just had to eat a dirt sandwich for a year knowing you'd get crushed if you were the Lakers because you traded the much more likable and popular Shaq, who went to an excellent organization and won a title. But over a course of the next eight years, Kobe, who was obsessed with practice and games, was the better move. You're. When you traded Micah to Green Bay, you are going to lose for a year. You're going to lose that trade. But next draft, Dallas could turn those two ones because Dax playing at a high level, they don't need a quarterback. If they end up with 11th pick, somebody's moving up for a quarterback and they could get another two, another three, another four. Dallas may be able to. And next year's draft is considered above average. Dallas could restock its entire roster next year. So, yeah, you're going to lose the mic because Micah's playing for the packers and it's a team that just needed Micah. They just needed a playmaker. And so you're going to be reminded every Sunday or Monday, God, what were we doing? Wait till April and Dallas is going to look really smart.
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The timing of for Jerry, Jerry should have done it before the draft, but obviously once he did it, he didn't want to trade him to the Packers. Did you read the story? He tried to trade him the jets and they're like, yeah, we saw the money or whatever. So at least Jerry knew and Philly gave him the best offer. But obviously you can't trade him to Philly. But Green Bay, were you a little surprised that they were really the only team willing? Because obviously not shocked at all. Howie and Jeffrey Lurie were willing, but none of the AFC teams, and I understand cap wise would be a little. But if you're Buffalo, I mean, I mean imagine if Buffalo had done that.
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Green Bay, because if you really look at what Green Bay is, they have their quarterback, they have their weapons, they have their interior linemen, they have their tight ends, they have their coach, they have their star back. They're one of those teams that can give away first round picks the next two years. They really can. I mean they. What they can't guarantee is that Micah would be available because they're going to draft deep at the end of the first round. So Green Bay's like, we can get a guy that would be a lottery pick. Player we never get into the lottery pick. We give up a one. So I think it makes a ton of sense for Green Bay. Dallas needs players. I mean their defense. I mean you could go into next year's draft, which is a good quarterback draft. If Dallas first six picks were defense, you'd be like yeah, absolutely. I mean you could see them doing that. They maybe a running back some point in the first five picks, but I think it works for both teams. It's just going to look bad for Dallas for until April.
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1. One thing, watching the Chiefs today who obviously are going to be good on defense and have excellent team speed, you know, Jalen couldn't just run around today. And if you're the packers, like who are you? Who are the top couple teams you need to beat? Well, it's obviously the Eagles and remember that playoff game against Green Bay or I mean against Philly for Green Bay. Jalen made some big time plays with his legs. Now you're watching their whole defense feels faster with Micah.
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Right.
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And obviously Micah's speed is you know, pretty elite for an edge rusher. And he, he does feel it's pretty rare in football like Buffalo. Are they truly a player way I feel like on defense they need a couple players like the Green Bay looking at it and they kind of feel like they were a player away truly. Now I'm not saying the Bills can't like win the super bowl, but I don't know if they were a player away. So maybe that's how they justified not making the trade.
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They didn't want to trade Kenny Clark, but the truth is they did and they're fine. They have, they've, you know, they just draft well. You go to the last 30 years, they draft well. When's the last time they missed on a wide receiver, a tight end? They just don't been a while.
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Yeah.
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So. All right, here's a game that there's a lot to discuss. Seattle 31, Pittsburgh 17. It looks like Seattle had a dynam. They didn't. Pittsburgh gave them a touchdown. It was 14 and to 14. It felt like for a long stretch I had the under on this game. I felt great until Caleb Johnson forgot the rules on the kickoff. So you know, again this game, two takeaways before I get to the botched play by the Steelers. They can't run the ball. It does feel a lot like the jets offense. It's an average offensive line just like New York. They can't run the ball. They average three yards a carry against Seattle. Aaron had A couple of picks. He was 18 for 33. One of his receivers made a mistake in the red zone, ran the wrong route. So I listened to his post game today and it sounded a lot like Aaron Rodgers with the jets where he's playing with some young guys that aren't up to his speed. And truth is, Aaron's really smart. It's hard as a young player to be up with him intellectually and serenely because Aaron's playing upstairs, another level than most guys, like an older Brady. So you know, my, my take is, is I said this before. I think this is one of the ones I'm right on. I said they won't run the ball because Tomlin can't figure out the O line. The O line will be maybe better than the jets, but not great. It's going to feel like a much more refined, polished, well run version of the Jets. And I got to be honest with you, John, that's what the offense looks like.
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You said average offensive line. That feels like a stretch to me. I might even go below average. And maybe once you start paying all these guys, I would put Cincinnati in the same kind of vein, the offensive line like the resource. Because if you miss on a draft pick, all of a sudden Aaron, who can't really move as well anymore, even when he makes his great play scrambling, it feels like he's kind of moving in quicksand relative to the guy that we, you know, knew a decade ago when he was younger. Their offensive lines getting him killed. And to me the thing is one how often you're going to see 10 points scored in two plays. They kick a field goal, they kick it off. And when he touched Caleb Johnson, who I was high on, I like it. It's clearly been a disaster them. I mean that play, I don't. If you told me next week he's inactive as of like we, we just, we talk about a guy that needs a break. Like what was that? He just quit. I, maybe he doesn't know the rule which to me would also be on the coach. And they have a great special teams coach. But that was. They got the ball back. You know, they kick a field goal and it is 24 to 17 and the defense just needs to get to stop well off. You know, they're paying T.J. watt, Cam Hayward's getting a raise. They, they get these two DBs. They're defense, they're the Pittsburgh Steelers. And Seattle goes right down and scores a touchdown. It's like, well, if you were going to be decent at all this year and be real like, okay, this is finally the year with Aaron Rodgers. You can win a playoff game. You're going to be a top two or three defense, you know, and the defense right now through two games is nowhere near. I mean Sam Donald throws a couple picks early in the game. This should be a game that they dominate this team. Seattle's got one wide receiver who's an excellent player, but it's not like they got some potent offense.
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You know, Seattle can only win one way. It's got to be low scoring, it's got to be, you know, Sam had an occasional big play. You know Aaron, when he throws the ball to DK Metcalf, then he had one of the tied in, in the end zone. Aaron still throws that red zone ball as well as anybody in the league. But the question is how often with this whole line and run game are they going to get into the red zone? Aaron, Aaron needs certain things, protection. He throws a beautiful ball. Those back shoulder throws, it's gorgeous. It's as good as anybody that's ever thrown it. But I, I look at Pittsburgh and between the snafu on the kickoff, the lack of the run game, it's just, it is exactly the jets, but it's just a much less chaotic organization.
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Well, exactly. And isn't that, you know, Mike Tomlin, this 15, $20 million coach. They're going to be, you would just say hey, they're going to be buttoned up. A well run operation even whether they have the high end talent or not, they're going to be buttoned up and they're going to be tough. While I'm watching this team, they don't physically look as tough as they've been in some of his heyday teams. And buttoned up. I mean they got this rookie out there that doesn't even know what's going on. Just hands over seven points in a game that, I mean that was the game right there. I mean once that play happens, it's like that, that, that derailed them, which it would derail any team. But how can that happen? And you know the old adage you're coaching, allowing to happen. How are you having the kid out there if he's been that big of a disaster for you to even put him in that situation? I think some, you know, their roster may and listen, maybe I did, I overrated a little bit because they're forcing it. Obviously they're putting them out there. He's their best option. Maybe they're not as good as you think. And you know, Aaron Rodgers getting peppered, you know, same. I'd say the same thing about Cincinnati. I'm like, I think they could be. Well, if your offensive line is a shift and can't block a soul, the NFL, I mean, I don't, you can play average teams. They're going to have some pass rush. Your quarterback's going to get killed. So unless you got Lamar Jackson back there, these guys are going to get hit. And all of a sudden, is Aaron Rodgers at this, the way it's going right now, is he going to make it 17 games at this age getting peppered like this?
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By the way, you know, it's, it's, you know, Aaron had an eye roll moment and then he called out a teammate at the podium after. He was right. But generally, I mean, Bo Nix could call out three of his teammates today. He, they, they, that kick. They had the game one. Bo Nix is not going to go to the podium and call people out. But that's Aaron's sense of value, that he's just going to do it. So it's feeling to me a lot like the jets where Aaron's going to call out teammates. He's going to have weird body language. There'll be the occasional eye roll. He'll be like, well, you know, we got some young players. Listen, go watch the Denver indie game. Denver made three idiotic Sean Payton and Bo Nick. That's just part of pro sports. The game is fast. The, the rosters are younger than they've ever been. So I, I listen. Seattle wins one way. It was a nice win for Seattle. I mean, if you, if you go into the season and you're like, hey, we go on the road and beat Pittsburgh, I don't care how good Pittsburgh is, that's a big W for them.
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That feels great for sure, 100%.
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Yeah, early on it was a little, little bumpy and even. He said, you know, he's worked on his breathing, he was amped up. And Trent Williams essentially looked at him, said, relax buddy, we're going to be okay. And he calmed down. But as the game went on, he, he played really well. Saints defense I think is pretty bad. They're back seven. So you're not. It's a little like playing a Miami and defensively he's not very good. But Kyle Shanahan, like this guy coming out for a reason fits his scheme. Like you said, Purdy to me is a much better player. But as the game went on, here's the thing. Yes, they actually have. I'd say Purdy is slightly better arm, but neither guy has a great arm. McCaffrey's healthy right now. He's making a lot of plays. Ricky Pierce, all through two games looks like a player like Ricky Pierce. Hall is really, really good. Juwan Jennings is healthy, he made some plays today. And Kyle Shanahan, here's what the thing I'll say about just in general, if you're backup court, if you have a guy that's on a big contract for a starting quarterback and you can go on the road whether you're playing the best team in the league or the worst team in the league and the Saints are not. The Saints actually are better offensively. I think Rattlers look okay and they.
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Got some beasts looks okay.
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I would say this, your backup quarterback can win you a game. That is a massive win. He you earn a contract immediately with one. And if you have to start two or three games and you get me two wins out of three starts, that's you're worth 15, 20 million. You're under.
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That's right.
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So Robert Sala, here's the other thing. They let a lot of guys Go. And it wasn't easy for Kyle. Who cares? And we talk about drafting. When coaches get a big say in the draft room, they look at the depth chart, not at the future. Five years. Because Kyle Shanahan is not thinking about 2028. He's thinking about week two, 2025. Robert Sala has been an ass kicker so far for him. Bosa looks incredible.
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Defense, which has given up 400 plus yards in two weeks. Look at what they pay for their defense. It's the, it's the most expensive in the league. Look at the names of the Steelers defense, Fred Warner, Bosa, and a lot of who's that? And they've been excellent.
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This is also where schedules matter. And when I was, when I went to your show in the summer and Edelman came on, he got offended by it. Don't ever say a schedule is easy. Well, that's the Belichick and him talking. Some schedules are easier than others. And going on the Road Week 2 at the Saints instead of having to play the Ravens or the packers is a big deal. And you know, are you winning a game in Green Bay or in Buffalo with Mac Jones? No. But when you have an easier schedule and listen, the Niners, we talk about coach, quarterback combination, just go offensive and defensive play caller. Niners are as good as anybody. Kyle Shanahan, Robert Sala, and they have a couple easy games. They take advantage of it. Seattle wasn't an easy game by any means, but this game is. They get the Cardinals and they got to do it without Brock Purdy. It is, you know, someone came at me in, in my DMs on Instagram and was like, you know, Purdy really has only missed a couple games in his career. Well, one major injury he had happened to be in the NFC championship game, so they had a nine month break. That's a major injury. So he's had a major elbow injury. He obviously has a pretty major injury right now. I mean if he's got five or.
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Six, yeah, it's a major injury.
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So it's. These are big injuries. He missed a game last year being banged up that ultimately my point is like you need him to be available and it is like he's a smaller player. This injury is a little weird because you didn't even notice it on like, like, you know, the burrow thing. Like guys get hurt is part of the deal. But a lot of times you see it happen on the field. When you don't see it, it's like, when did that happen? Just wear and tear. But the 49ers, two, two out of the last three years where they deserve credit, they value the backup quarterback, Sam Darnold, two years ago this year, Mac Jones. Kyle's very comfortable in the guy, he believes in the guy. And it works because we see some teams last couple years in Miami, when TUA goes down, they basically just fold.
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Yeah, and I, I just think, I think we know there's some really good coaching right now. And I, I think San Francisco between Kyle and Salah is a top four team. I think Minnesota's, the Rams, Kansas City, obviously. But I, I, I do think you look at what the Steelers are paying for their defense and you look what the Niners have, which is two elite players and then just guys. I mean, Hufanga was a great player that is now at Denver. Not a good player. Was a great player, was a Pro Bowler. So all pro, All Pro. So it's solid. You know, that's why he quickly got a job. I still think he should deserves a second head coach. If you fail with the jets, it's like I don't even count it, right.
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I give him two years if their defense is good. He's definitely, I mean, he'll get some interviews, maybe it's a little too quick, but he'll be a head coach again. I mean, it feels like inevitable. Too high level of a guy.
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Okay. A New England beats Miami 33 to 27. So first of all, you know Mike McDaniel and the Dolphins are a cautionary tale. If you pay a B quarterback A plus money, you get into trouble. So the roster isn't much. The defense is probably the worst defense in the league. Listen, New England needed that Antonio Gibson return on the kickoff. They found a way to win and that's where, that's what New England is now. They, they need, they need everybody. Ramandre Stevenson had a great game for them. The running back who they got, I think from Oklahoma years and years ago. He had one of his best games as a pro. Drake May was fine. He's settling in. I think he's just a guy that needs another year. I just think of all those guys had more starts, they were more polished. I don't think Drake May, you know, again, but he's 19 to 23, you know, he's not throwing interceptions. So, you know, again it's Miami, but I thought overall time of possession, New England dominated. They're not going to be two ahead. A huge pick which helped seal the win for New England was an awful pick. Do you think Mike McDaniel last the season.
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You know, I, I think they deserve some credit today they had a little more fight and spunk in them. I think most people would have bet on this game to be like a 23 to 3 just beating of just the team quitting and they definitely did not quit. I think you're a pretty easy grader, you know, B for two. I, I might go like C plus. He could have BB plus games but I'd say over the course of the season because the moment the weather turns, he just kind of falls apart. And whenever they have to leave Miami, if he's turning the ball over, he's just, he's probably like a C minus player. I just think they got, you know, they, they went all in on the Tyreek Hill thing and he had historic year for him a couple years ago. But this thing, all the off the field noise, he's not near the same Miami.
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It's all sizzle.
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Yes. I mean they draft Waddle 6 overall again. Waddle's a good player, but can you imagine Jim Harbaugh drafting a small quick wide receiver, number six overall, Tyreek Phil.
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Or you know, or did they draft, did they draft Waddle pre or post Hill?
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I think they had traded for I, I'd have to look. It might have been a year before or it might have been the same year. They traded for him earlier in March. I regardless, I mean it's like that. It's not the way good teams build their squad. I mean the Chiefs got Tyree kill him. Now granted there was because off the field. But in the fifth round, if you're going to take wide receivers that high, he better be Julio Jones. Size wise physicality. And here's where I overvalued New England. A win's a win. Especially on the road. Their roster is not as good like their schedule. It's why I bought into their schedule. But like their teams don't. You know, John, you know, Christian Gonzalez is pretty important to them and he's kind of has some durability questions early on his career.
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I mean a lot of this is in this league is juice. Like, I mean when you watch the Rams. Devonte Adams today. Oh, okay. He and Stafford are playing out. Kyron Williams, Devonte Adams, Puka Nakua, Jared Verse. The Rams have five or six players. You're like, oh, they've got juice, they've got guys. New England just doesn't have enough though. Again, Ramon Ray Stevenson had a great game. Gibson, tremendous game. But I, I think I probably, I was like You. I looked at the schedule. I didn't. I thought the Dolphins were circling the drain. Jets are the Jets. And I just looked around the league and I just thought, I don't trust anybody. The Indianapolis Colts are absolutely better than I thought. And New England is not as good as I thought today.
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Yeah. To me, if you had to say there's one playoff spot, who would you bet on? Indy or New England as like a seven seed? It'd be a. It wouldn't even hesitate. Honestly. Indy, like, they can win that division, right? I mean, they, they have a lot of offensive talent of Daniel Jones.
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Let's talk about that.
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Play like this. And part of being a dome team is like, he's not playing outdoors in a lot of these games. So. Their team speed was evident today against one of the fastest defenses in the league.
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The Colts beat Denver 31 28. They get a do over a mulligan on the kick at the end of the game because of a penalty by Denver. And I gotta be honest, the Daniel Jones resurrection, again, he's mostly a distributor, but he's a big guy. He can take a pounding. Give him credit. He can take a hit. He's a big, strong kid. He moves pretty well. And, you know, and I like Brian Dable, but Shane Steichen. And maybe it's just because to your point, Colts have a better roster. I mean, Chris Bowder, I texted him this summer. I'm like, nobody wants to admit this, but I'm like, you have good players. Like, I mean, Jonathan Taylor's a top five back. Warren today, he made.
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Was excellent.
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Oh, my God, he made Bronco linebackers. I mean, he was cutting back and he's very good after the catch for a tight end. But Denver really struggled when he got the ball in space. And again they have Pittman, Pierce. I mean, they, they're good. I mean, Indy's got good players. They're not a great team because Jones isn't a great quarterback. But to. To drop 31 against Denver, a hyper aggressive team with the best corner in the league, and that led the NFL in sacks and probably will again. My takeaway today was I made a mistake. Indy's better than I thought.
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Yeah, I mean, we have an example. To me, his comp coming out of Duke was Alex Smith. And we saw Alex Smith. Those guys aren't physically gifted enough. If it gets weird, if someone doesn't believe in him, it can look really, really bad because their floor is really, really low. But if they get in the right spot. Alex got with Harbaugh then he got with Andy Reid and it wasn't debatable. Like he's just a good player now. How good? No one's comparing him to the top guys. But you can win double digit games and make the playoffs with this player. And you could argue that Daniel, even relative to Alex maybe and Alex was older when he resurrected his career. It felt like than, than Daniel is right now. Feels like Daniel's a little bit more explosive as a runner, maybe a little bit better.
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You're watching him play today, he looks.
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Bigger, thicker for sure. Yeah, Alex was. Felt a little slender. Alex was tall as well. But you watch Daniel run, you're like, this is a big dude, you know, breaking tackles, falling forward. So I'm just. They're skilled guys. I mean Pittman's a really good player. Physical over the middle guy.
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Warren's a star.
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One thing I think sometimes in the draft and some teams just, if they, they abide by these rules and you're going to miss sometimes. But let's use the Bears. They like Loveland more because he was a more explosive athlete, little twitchier. Well, I think sometimes we overrate the testing because Warren, when he tests is not going to test as well as Loveland. But if you watch Warren, let's say against USC last year, like this guy, 17 catches. Yeah, yeah. And then you watch him today, well that's as fast of a defense as they're in the NFL. And he's juking guys, he's running by guys. He's just a. You can't fake just being a good player. Right. Charles Barkley had no business at six four being as. But he's just an instinctive, he's natural, he's a great rebounder. Well, he's not 7ft tall, but he'd get rebound over guys that were 6 foot 10 because he was instinctive. You watch Warren like that's elite football instincts. So what do they do? They get him the ball in space and just let the guy make plays. And this is where Shane Steichen, his value comes in. Like I knew Bo Nix was going to bounce back today. I'm like, well Sean Payton, they're not going to let a game now he had a pick that kind of killed him, overthrew it bad. And I expected Denver to win that game, you know, to start I had money on Denver, but I was. Bo Nicks bounced back, showed some. Denver has a lot of speed. Like if you just compare them to Kansas City on offense they got a ton of playmakers.
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Franklin Kid From Oregon, Mims, Cortland, Sutton. Their tight ends, multiple running backs. Harvey, J.K. dobbins. No, Denver's personnel is strong. Yeah, that Bo had a really bad pick. He's an intense kid. He and Sean were barking at each other again late in the game. But I think Denver, I feel very confident saying this. They're a playoff team. I think they'll.
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I was oh yeah, I still think they can win the division. I was a little surprised at the end of the game that Steichen was very conservative. You know, he doesn't have Brandon Audrey kicking. I mean the guy wasn't even close. I thought he'd be a little aggressive. His offense had been good. This wasn't a seven, seven tie game. This was a high scoring, explosive play.
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Break.
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His quarterback had been playing well. He got very lucky.
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He. He played for I don't know how long field goal.
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What the ball travel 46 yards. I mean barely even got to the white on the back of the end zone. He got obviously that rule you can't jump over the snap or whatever but I don't know. I mean I thought got bailed out for bad coaching right there when he had coached a great.
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Yeah I, I was the same way when they just kept running the ball into the line. And by the, by the way, by the second one on third down, Denver sniffed it out. Denver's like put eight guys in the box and I'm like coach, you don't have a kicker that's going to hit a 59 yard kick. So they.
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And Sean had no timeouts. He had them on the ropes. He's got, he's got big bodied skill guys. When Warren and Pittman like it's not like you got a bunch of tiny little Ty Hiltons out there like you could just run five yard curls and just move the. You don't have to even throw the ball down the field. But they, they got lucky to win that game was. That's one for sure. I don't know Denver, that's a, that's. You're gonna lose some sleep over that loss.
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That's a bad flight home. That's one of those flights because your.
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Quarterback has to throws three times, three touchdowns in the first half. You're like God, are they just gonna, are they gonna win this game by double digit?
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2820. I think 2823 late. I mean the game was really yours and you were driving. God.
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Their guy missed a field goal, right. Bounced it off the upright.
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That, that is as tough a loss. I mean that's why, you know, Jimmy Johnson always says, man, nothing's going to kill you more than. Than players that aren't good above the shoulders, they just made. And J.K. dobbins a smart guy, but I mean, he spiked the ball and it's like it was only a small penalty, but it's like, guys get it under. When you're on the road, you have to be more buttoned up emotionally because they're going to call stuff on the road. They're not going to call when you're at home. Okay? Rams 33, Titans 19. Jared verse and Byron Young wreaked havoc against Tennessee Titans tackles. They have a very good offensive line coach, but this was a classic game. Devonte Adams emerged with six catches, a touchdown, 106 yards. Puka was great. Kyron Williams was great. As we said earlier, the Rams have about six or seven guys. Brandon Frisk is one of these guys. Verse and Young today, they got about six guys in their prime. If Devonte Adams, it gives you this going forward. Puka had eight catches, 11 and a half per catch. Devonte had six catches for over 100 yards. And I was watching him today, I thought this was going to be a close game. And Cam Ward got sacked five times. It just. Again, everything was speeding up for Cam Ward. I thought he looked a little bit more poised against Denver than he did at home against the Rams, but Green Bay is the best team I've seen and Philadelphia is second. Could I argue that the Rams are the third best team in the league?
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League would be strong, but I, I'm with you. This was a very impressive win. You had the Titans in the blazing five.
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I thought the Titans were five and a half at home. I thought it was a. And Rams don't score a lot. When devonte Adams emerged, I'm like, okay, this is, this is significant.
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I love the Titans in this spot and I'll never gamble on them again. I promise you that. That 10:00am kickoff for these, you know, for the Niners and the Rams today, that's difficult on your body.
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That's why. That's one of the reasons Tennessee.
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It's. I, I don't care if you're playing the Titans and the Saints, that. That's tough kickoff moments. You're eating. You're eating like a pregame meal weight or, you know, it's just. It throws off your. The Rams flipped a switch. I thought in the middle of this game, it was like, we're not even. You guys are not on our level. And I'm with you. I thought Cam Ward kind of freelanced a little bit more today. Does make some. He had one touchdown pass across his body that was called back. That was pretty awesome. But it's like that's. You can't really function and win like that. But devonte Adams a really good player now, is he in his heyday what he was with with Aaron Rodgers at this point? No, but you've said this and it was pretty clear they thought it was a big upgrade over Cooper cup and devonte brings them. They got two wide receivers they can depend on. If Stafford. Listen, I didn't know because he had been banged up. I said, hey, get back issue. 37 years old, but he has looked pretty good. I mean he is making some throws so far this season. You're like, holy. If. If they want they would sign up for the playoffs to start right now because their guys healthy and they could beat anyone. So I'm with you now. Over the course of the next three months. Is that back issue just gone? Is he getting weekly shots? Because if he's healthy, here's where I will agree with you. They can be anything in the league and they can play on the road or at home against anybody. To me, it all comes down like they have the pieces. It's him. We saw them last year, were the only team that gave the Eagles any sense of a push down the stretch of the season in the playoffs. But does he look like he has the first couple of weeks making some of these throws in December and January? Because if he does, then they can win the super bowl if he doesn't. Which, and I think it's fair to question, I mean, he just. Just missed all of training camp because his back's funky. And at any moment that's one of those injuries that you just never know. And that's the same thing like with these guys with turf toes. These aren't like a rolled ankle. You know, you're gonna get a couple weeks or I break a leg. I know it's six weeks. Like the back thing, it's like, yeah, it could be good for a month. You meet people old and young, all of a sudden it comes back like I can't even get out of bed. So it to me, and I've said it from the beginning, it all right, he's out. I'm out on them. Right? Yeah, I know McVeigh likes Jimmy Garro. If he's in and he's playing well, he's just healthy. I believe in them against any or give them a shot against any. I don't care who they're playing. Green Bay included.
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Well, I would say this about Fields. I honestly, after two series at my TV situ, I turned that game off. I mean, it's like this thing. I was shocked. It was 30 to 10 or three or whatever the final score was. The Bills could have scored every single drive they wanted to that it's not even a fair fight. I'm with you. They are going to win. They're the new Patriots in that Division they've won I think four or five straight years, they're going to win that. Twelve straight years of Josh Allen's healthy. Fields turns into a running back and that's his. One of his great skills is with the ball in his hands as a playmaker. Like he's as talented as most guys in the NFL. So he takes shots. And I think when you look at Lamar, when you watch him play, like he'll just plop down. He just gets down. He doesn't take these heat.
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First year Lamar took some heat. He took shots.
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Gotten way better at that. I'd say Kyler has improved. Realizing like I got to be careful. But these are some of the great athletes. They don't have the muscle that, you know, Fields is definitely thicker than those two guys. Obviously Lamar's bigger. And Kyler, to me, the burrow thing like signing Justin Fields, I know he had an all time great game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Turns out Pittsburgh might just be terrible on defense. Like Justin Fields kind of is what he is. The burrow thing, when you don't invest in your offensive line and have a poor offensive line, especially with a guy like bro, he's a sitting duck. He's going to get injured and it does feel, it doesn't parallel each other exactly. But the Andrew Luck situation, their greatest attribute is they are willing to stay in that pocket a little bit extra. Philip Rivers, all those guys were so big. I've said this forever. When I first got into the NFL and even after start going to these games, like Raider games, when I was working in radio, every quarterback that came out, Carson Palmer, the Mannings, they were, they looked like NBA players, small forwards. They were huge. You know, remember. I remember we did the Fox thing and Carson was there and I was like, I, I didn't realize how big.
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I went to a party at Hugh Hefner's, the late Hugh Hefner. It was in.
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And, and oh yeah at lacc and.
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And Peyton was there among a million. There was a million people there and I think Donovan McNabb. It was just a party in LA and it was, it was nothing. It was a. I mean I got in. That tells you it was in the middle of the day and Peyton Manning was the biggest guy there. Bias and I'm six two buck nine Peyton, I looked like his little tiny brother. So like. But I just. When I. We have smaller quarterbacks and it's a more athletic position. But there is. I don't think all injuries are bad luck. I think there's usually Circumstances that provide a path to why you're getting hurt.
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Yeah, and I just don't think that Joe Burrow thinks sustainable. I mean you can't get banged up this consistently because you're getting peppered constantly. And maybe some of it's on him, you know, holds that ball a little bit extra. But I mean the organization is, we talk about a marriage just destined to fail. This situation is just going to get ugly because we know how stubborn Mike Brown is. I'll say this, I know he threw some interceptions today. When Jake Browning was in college and I had followed him, he was a full.
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Washington.
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I wouldn't have bet that he made it through one training camp without just being cut and maybe not even make it through ota. He's still in the NFL and he's a capable player. Like I, I, I, I, I, that individual, that human being deserves a ton of credit. I, I would have bet thousands of dollars that he wouldn't make it more than one season even on like practice squads. Colin. And he's going to have, what do you think, a 14 year career when it's all said and done just as a backup play in the league forever. And today is the game winning touchdown as like the Drew Brees moment. I mean what a cool I, I'm.
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Blown away by Jordan Palmer texted me once because I was saying Jake Browning doesn't have an arm. He's not an NFL quarterback, He's small, he's got like a CFL arm. Jordan Palmer goes, you're wrong. Watch this guy. The next week he just flies through the NFL. And again, I think when you're a little smaller and don't have a big arm, you have to be better pre snap, you have to be better with accuracy. So I think all of us know that, right? Like if you weren't the best looking guy and you wanted to date pretty girls, you had to be funnier. Like everybody knows what they could. Yeah, I mean just that's the reality for everybody. And so I think when you're a great athlete, like a Justin Fields or a Caleb, and I don't think it's necessarily intentional, but you know, you've been able to run in high school and college and sometimes in the NFL and pick up first downs, it's like, you know, do you spend that extra 45 minutes every day on film room, that tedious film room stuff which you've already looked at eight times, but Drew Brees will look at it 9, 10, 11, 12 times because he's smaller without a big arm and He. He's aging. And I think it's just the reality of this sport is that when guys get hurt, there's usually a reason.
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I think the best example in the NFL of a guy who knows his game better than anyone is Jared Goff. He knows exactly what he does not have. And he will hit the ground, he will throw the ball away. Obviously, he can have games where he looks really bad, but there's a reason that guy is going to make $450 million and throw a ton of touchdowns when it's all said and done. Because you watch him today, he's got to be one of the slowest, if not the slowest quarterback in the league. He doesn't have some enormous arm, but that guy, you know, even Dak, who's a good Dax, a much better athlete. I mean, not even close. And this version of Dak now has a shattered ankle and a ripped hammy, and he could run circles around Jared, just moving. So what Jared is able to do. And this gets back to the Caleb thing. Why would Caleb know how to check it down? When the hell has he ever checked it down? In college or the pro or in. In high school? No chance. So now they're trying to teach him that. That it's not even that shocking that he doesn't listen. He's like, why would I do that? I can make all the throws. The problem is the go routes and the bombs. That's not how the NFL really works. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady made a living throwing out routes.
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Yeah. I mean, even Josh Allen, I. When I watch Josh Allen, I don't see me. I don't see him change the play at the line of scrimmage a lot. And I don't. And I. And I always think to myself, well, he probably tells himself, I'll just make it work. You know, I'll just. I don't think of Josh Allen as a guy that's moving traffic and, hey, barking. And I'm cha. But I saw Bo Nix. Bo Nix is small. He doesn't have a huge arm. He's more athletic than you think. But I do think, you know, people. Men know what they're good at, unless they're weirdly delusional, but most pro athletes aren't. But it was a hell of a day. I went 2 and 3 on my blazing five picks, and, God, Denver hurt. That one hurt badly.
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Yeah, really quick, before you get out of here, just because I know you're passionate about usc, but their crosstown rival, ucla, who fired Foster, Can. Can we Just admit in the NIL era, that and I grew up in Davis, where UC Davis, who used to be a football power, Chris Peterson played there. A bunch of coaches. But UC Davis and UCLA aren't that much different in 2025 when it comes to NIL and UCLA. Honestly, the only reason they're in the Big Ten is because USC needed a partner to bring. But their program is much closer to being in the way they think about football. Right. Is the Big sky program than it is Ohio State, Michigan and Oregon.
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I knew Washington, Oregon and USC would be just fine in the Big Ten. They'd be fine.
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And they are.
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And they are. I said it when it happened to ucla. The good news for UCLA is they'll get Wisconsin, Nebraska, Ohio State in la and it'll fill their state. But they have no money. And it's ironic because the campus is in Bel Air. So it's probably the nicest campus I've ever. Nicest college campus. Palo Alto. And Stanford's pretty damn sweet, I'd say.
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Stanford and them are 1A and 1A.
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A in the country. So, I mean, it's just surrounded by wealth, but they just. They have no money. Now, the basketball program, which is really the pride, you know, Paulie in the basketball and John Wooden in the history, they get about $4 million a year, I think, in nil, and that's 4 million for basketball. And you can, you can be an elite every year. So the UCLA has, you know, poly. They redid it. It's a great basketball, college basketball place. I love their arena. I think it's fantastic. It's got a great sense of history and it's current, but that football program is dead. It doesn't matter who you hire. There's no money for nil. They don't have a Phil Knight. You know, it's funny is it's an international university. They've probably got some of the wealthiest graduates ever, but none of them care about football. They are. It's a. I. I was told when they joined the Big Ten, they were last or next to last in football. Nil. USC just built a $300 million football program. Their nil's 18 million a year, and they're paying Lincoln Riley another 80 million. That staff is expensive. USC is private. They don't have to announce what they pay, whereas UCLA is public and those salaries for football coaches get listed. And so it's always been a program that, you know, is kind of fighting an uphill battle where Washington football matters. Oregon's got Phil Knight, but they, it's just not, it's done. Nil feels like it just killed UCLA.
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Football, which is sad because when I was a kid in the late 90s, UCLA was really good. My cousin was a walk on there, I think in 2001 and he's like, at the time when I went there, we were better than usc. And then Pete came and obviously it changed. But UCLA football used to get players and now I don't think a player, I mean they would be more likely to go to like Fresno State or San Diego. Ucla. You, you watch them against New Mexico and I only watched a couple series because the game was such a joke. It was like, is this, is this really, am I witnessing this actually happening?
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New Mexico got into like a red zone area twice and didn't get points. I watched some of it. They, it should have been worse.
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When I see these lists, I know we got to watch Sunday night game of some of these potential coaches. Well, the, some of these coordinators at these big schools are making a couple million dollars. You think UCLA is going to spend seven, eight million dollars on a head coach? They want, they want to pay two or three.
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Foster was trying making three, two, five and the coordinators are making six in la.
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Yeah, that's what, that's what Dan Lanning pays his offensive and defensive coordinators. You know, so what? I just, I just think it's sad. It's just sad. But it's, this is not going to change. Like it's going to get worse before it gets better.
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John Middlekoff, our Sunday pod. Good seeing you buddy.
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See you, Colin.
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This is Rob Gronkowski from Dudes on Dudes. Applebee's just cooked up the ultimate option. Play with their new Ultimate Trio deal. You can choose from three of their delicious appetizers and pair them up with three sauces for just 14.99. Craft your perfect trio from over 80,000 different combinations in this flavor packed plate. Built for one or to share if you're generous. You can stick with the classic pairings like boneless wings and buffalo sauce. Or you can spice things up and try some unexpected pairings like dipping chicken wonton tacos in our honey Dijon mustard. It's time to head to your neighborhood Applebee's or order online today. Now that's eating good in the neighborhood. We finally switched to T Mobile because with them we can be connected here and there.
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Dad, the cousins in Mexico have a surprise for you.
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And enjoy the gift of staying connected.
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Switch and start saving today. Get four Samsung Galaxy S25 phones with Galaxy AI on us and four lines for just 25 bucks per line plus non stop talk tags and data between us and Mexico. Visit a store t mobile.com or call 1-800-T-Mobile- 1-800-T MOBILE. See details@t mobile.com this is an iHeart podcast.