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Like, I don't remember the last time Baltimore at home got pushed around like that, especially by an NFC team. Just completely pushed around. So demoralizing. I mean, if you take away three or four incredible Lamar Jackson plays. He's an insane talent. This game was never really competitive. I mean, at one point, the Lions converted seven of ted third and fourth downs. You know, I mean, Lamar Jackson. Not only did Detroit come in and take command early, but then at halftime they got more dominant in the second half. So that's just personnel. And you have to be careful about first impressions because our first impression of Detroit with New Coordinators was the hall of Fame game. They were awful. Then the preseason, you're like, oh, they're bad. And then the opener at Green Bay and you're like, oh, Detroit, this isn't going to work. They're going to miss Ben Johnson. But what they've done since then is they've really gotten back to basics with the game against the Bears and the game against the Ravens. They're going to run the football. They're going to pound it. And once again, if you looked at the rosters tonight, I mean, obviously Goff and Omaron St. Brown and Hutchinson, the Branch, those are great, great players. Jameer Gibbs. But one of the things Detroit has done exceedingly well, you know, when Sean McVay came to the Rams, the coach turned around the franchise. You could say Shanahan turned around the Niners, but he has a losing record without McCaffrey. Really, Christian McCaffrey is the guy that took Kyle Shanahan's ability to magically transform quarterbacks and made it all work. I mean, McCaffrey really has taken them, that offense to a different level. When you look at Detroit, it's their front office. I mean, these rosters, I mean, last year, they're falling apart physically. They had to go heavy into the interior line in this draft and they're starting a rookie on the offensive line. Baltimore was a little dinged up on the D line, but you just look at that roster, man, they got good players. I mean, they just have dudes all over that offense. I mean, when you can have elite tackles in this sport, you're one of four or five teams in this league that have elite tackles at both spots. And that's the Lions. And they put on a clinic tonight. You know, I take all these notes and I was taking them in the first half like it was going to be a really close finish. But Detroit came in with an. I mean, they had 98 and 96 yard drives. Usually if you say you're going to go on the road, you're going to face a really good franchise, a Pro bowl quarterback, and you're going to be pin deep multiple times in the game. That is really an omen for a tough Monday Night Football game. Detroit had 98 and 96 yard scoring drives. I mean, it was crazy. And when they went for it on 4th and 2 and Goffitz, that big pass to Amaran St. Brown, of course they went for it. That was an easy one. That's part of their culture. I will say this for Dan Campbell. I thought he had A kind of a goofy opening press conference. But I've told this story several times. I was talking to a general manager in the league who had hired a couple coaches, and he said, you're really hiring a CEO. If you can get a great schematic coach like an Andy Reid or Kyle Shanahan, that's a bonus. What you want is a leader of men. What you want. You know, if a guy is too much about schemes and not about leadership, it's not going to work. That's Mike McDaniel in Miami. It's great that Andy Reid can do both. But you're hiring a leader of men and. And that can build a culture. That's Vrabel, that's Dan Campbell. And he has been steadfast, like he has never wavered on this. They're going to go for it. They're going to be super aggressive. They're going to be super physical. They put on a clinic. I mean, that is the most impressive game an NFC team has played in Baltimore in five years in almost a Lamar Jackson era. That was a dominating performance. Yeah, I mean, third quarter, Lamar had that drive where he had three connections, two of them to Mark Andrews. Great throw to Mark Andrews in the end zone. But then Goff to Amaran St. Brown answers. Great throw. And boom. 21, 21. So every time Baltimore made something happen, the Ravens came right back. I want to look at a couple of these numbers, by the way, for the record, The Ravens are 1 and 2 for the second straight year. They're going to be fine, but the way they got manhandled tonight. And you know, it's funny, everybody talked about Lamar Jackson being so good on Monday Night Football because he was. What is interesting is how good Jared Goff has been in primetime. He's the opposite of Kirk Cousins. Jared Goff is 11:1 in primetime. And the first big primetime game I remember about Jared Goff is he faced Patrick Mahomes. I think it was going to be in Mexico City. It got postponed. It got moved. They played in the Coliseum pre Sofi, obviously. And he outdueled Patrick Mahomes. And that's the first one I really remember. He was good, but you're like, wow, golf gets on heaters. And when he does, it's pretty special. I want to look at. I want to look at right now. Here's the official stats. Detroit had 427 yards, 6.6 yards of play, 25 first downs, perfect on fourth down, dominated time of possession. I mean, to go on the road and have Eight penalties and win is something else. I mean, again, it wasn't like the Ravens weren't good. On third down, they were 6 of 11, but they allowed seven sacks, and the Lions didn't allow any. What a performance. And think about the team that has been so dominant in the AFC for years, Kansas City. I mean, right now I'm thinking about my super bowl bubble. Do I put Detroit back in it? I mean, again, hall of Fame game, preseason opener against Green Bay. They just. New coordinators. They looked awful. Johnny Morton tonight, I don't know if he'll call a better game. I mean, it was just. And you know, sometimes coordinators, offensive coordinators say they want to run the ball, but they get too clever. They get too cute. Even Sean McVeigh sometimes can get a little bit cute. I mean, Johnny Morton tonight, he just kept going back to the run. I mean, they didn't. And it didn't. It didn't look like the Ben Johnson Lions. There was no cute. I mean, anytime there was a question what they were going to do, I mean, they did. They did have that double option on fourth and one. They had one, which I think they. They've run that about once a year. The last several years. It feels like maybe more. I don't watch every snap for the L. That's just a great call. And if you run it twice a year, you know, it's hard to defend. Really clever. And every time I remember Detroit running it, they've run it well. I think I've seen them run it a couple different times, so. But they didn't outthink the room. Detroit's like, we're on the road. I mean, how fast did the first half go? Because of both teams were running? The first half just flew by. It was really good football. Like, I love football. I like quick football. You can get me beginning to end in 340. That's good football. Sometimes these college games go on forever because a team trails. They have to throw to get back into it. They're not very good at quarterback. The clock is stopping. It's awful. God, that was an incredible performance. If you're a Lions fan, you know, you look at this league on a macro level, as I was saying about Kansas City, look at how Kansas City is just struggling to get their offensive line right, to get their running game right. You know what I think we've seen and tonight is a stamp on it for about four years because the AFC GMS did such a good job to hit on quarterbacks. Herbert Burrow, Lamar Josh Allen, they just kept hitting one after another after another. Even the ones that haven't lived up to the billing. Trevor Lawrence, you know, are still, you know, better than average. And so I felt like, okay, the AFC hit on these quarterbacks, then they had to pay all of them. And the rosters aren't as good. You're watching the Lions roster tonight. The packers, despite losing to Cleveland, great roster. Philadelphia's roster is the best in football. Seattle's roster, they've had back to back to back good drafts. The Rams defensive roster. So what happened is the AFC for about five years with all these great quarterbacks, you're like, wow, there is a gap. Afc, nfc. Then you have to pay all the quarterbacks in the afc. Okay, now the rosters aren't as good. I mean, Buffalo's back end of their defense, I mean Ravens defense tonight, especially in the box, I mean, come on, they got pushed around. I mean Kansas City's defense is playing well, but their offense, the offensive line, the run game. So now it feels like to me it has swung back. I mean, I'm thinking top of my head of the teams in the top 10. Tampa is the top 10 team, Seattle is, San Francisco is, Philadelphia is, Green Bay is, I think Detroit has to be. I mean Kansas City's not. I don't know what you do with Baltimore after tonight. They're going to be fine. They started 1 and 2 last year. They're going to be fine. But Denver hasn't been as good as we thought. Baltimore's off to a 1 and 2 start. Kansas City offensively is sputtering. Feels like the NFC not saying that because I work at Fox. It feels like the NFC has had this run. And in the NFC you have really good quarterbacks on reasonable deals. Sam Darnold, Brock Purdy, Baker Mayfield, Jalen Hurts is on a pretty team friendly deal. Dak isn't. But a lot of the NFC quarterbacks who aren't considered superstars, their stars are on better team friendly deals like Darnold and like Baker. Well, that allows you to have better rosters. And my staff does such a Great job. The NFC is 9 and 2 this season against the AFC and boy, tonight was an exclamation point. That was not just the win, that was physical domination. I mean that they, they, that was bully ball that was pushing the Ravens around, man. Aiden Hutchinson, they kind of limited Lamar as a runner for the most part. And I, I like Derrick Henry for the record. But since 2019 and this was an Adrian Peterson issue since 2019. Derek Henry tied for the most fumbles in the league among running backs and I know that it was a bad fumble deep in their own territory. You know, feel like, oh, that really hurt the team. That's not what the game was about. That's not what the game was about. You got to be honest, if you're a Ravens fan, this was not your night. Detroit roster better than Baltimore roster Detroit game plan better than Baltimore game plan so it's official. Lions win it 38 to 30. It didn't feel like it was 38 to 30. It did not feel like that. The volume football season's here and if you want to go to an NFL or college football game, game time is the place for you. The Game Time app just gives you the advantage back to you, the fans. It's a hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in a few taps. I love it. Easy to use. The Game Time Guarantee means you can Trust you'll get 100% authentic tickets on time and at the best price. 100%. So they even let you preview your seat on the app. That's special plus fees roll is included so what you see is what you pay every time. Take the guesswork out of buying professional football tickets with GameTime. 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Date: September 23, 2025
Host: Colin Cowherd
Podcast: The Herd with Colin Cowherd (iHeartPodcasts & The Volume)
In this instant-reaction episode, Colin Cowherd dissects the Detroit Lions' dominant 38–30 win over the Baltimore Ravens. Cowherd dives into the Lions’ physical dominance, Dan Campbell’s leadership and cultural transformation, and Jared Goff’s stellar primetime play. He further explores larger league trends, contrasting NFC and AFC roster dynamics, and places Detroit’s rise within the broader NFL context.
Colin Cowherd provides an emphatic celebration of the Detroit Lions’ statement victory over the Baltimore Ravens, framing it as both a testament to Dan Campbell’s transformational leadership and Detroit’s quietly genius roster-building. Cowherd repeatedly returns to the theme of culture—aggression, fourth-down confidence, physicality—as the root cause of their rise. The episode pivots seamlessly from the micro (Detroit’s night) to the macro (shifting NFL power dynamics, NFC’s resurgence due to smarter salary cap management).
Memorable stats, big-picture insights, and Cowherd’s signature tone (“that was bully ball”) make this recap both a celebration of the Lions and a thoughtful meditation on why the NFC may now rule football’s upper echelons. If you missed the game, this episode will leave you convinced: Detroit’s moment has arrived—and it’s built on much more than schematics.