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I think Julian sand has the best footwork and release and accuracy I have ever seen from any 20 year old college quarterback ever. I text two people today, one a quarterback coach and somebody else who had seen him play in high school in Southern California. And their takeaway was always been smart. Keeps it head on straight, keeps the thing, the thing always had a good arm, can just let it rip. Accuracy's always been pretty effortless, so I didn't see anything other than YouTube stuff. I never watched one of his high school games live in Southern California. But he is, he is a remarkably gifted college quarterback. And two things can be true. He's not Tom Brady and never will be. And his footwork and release and accuracy remind me of Tom Brady and it just jumps through the television. Listen, Underwood is big time as well, but I'm talking about what professional GMs are looking for in coaches. Julian saying, and I know he's only 20, he's still got some college time. He is as good a college quarterback. Poise, accuracy, footwork, release. He is really something else and he has been all year. I mean, remember that Texas game we were all talking about Arch Manning? Arch Manning looked nervous, Julian sand did not. And that was, that was a, one of the biggest openers in the history of college football. So listen, I think Ryan Day deserves a lot of credit. First it's Chip Kelly and then it's Matt Patricia. And to be able to, to bring those guys in and, you know, let them coach speaks volumes of Ryan Day. Listen, I thought last year Ohio State was the much better team. Obviously they won the national championship. But I thought the game, I thought Ryan let the game get into his head and they, and I thought they played very conservatively early in this game and I think that's because they felt like, listen, we got better players, better team, we're going to wear them down over our 12, 13 possessions. We're just going to beat this team up physically. And you saw in that fourth quarter, middle of the fourth quarter drive by Ohio State running the football, you know, they were just picking up junk, yardage, they were moving fairly effortless effortlessly down the field. I don't think there's a better college football team at Ohio State. I think this Ohio State team is better than last year's Ohio State. 18 not at running back. Although Jackson's really slippery, really good, you know, Judkins and Trayvon Henderson are, you know, that's like Sony Michelle, Nick Chubb for Georgia years ago, that's pretty unprecedented. They have two backs that good, but the receivers, the quarterback, the linebacking group, the secondary, they're really good. They just don't give you. Everybody was critical of Underwood at half, you know he'd only produce 25 yards. Ohio State doesn't give you any openings. I've been saying this all year. I know it's not a pro secondary, but it, the openings Ohio State allows you are tiny little football sized boxes. There's just when you. That camera angle from, you know, the quarterback view for Michigan or anybody that's played Ohio State this year, I couldn't tell you the last time I saw a secondary with smaller windows for a college quarterback to throw into. So it's, it's not a game plan. It's not Underwood, it's. And Marsh is a huge talent. Michigan's got really good wide receiving talent. They didn't most of the Jim Harbaugh's reign. You know, Harbaugh, I've said this before, his entire career, whether it was the Niners, whether it was Michigan, whether it was Stanford, you know, I've never thought. He's had an amazing receiving core. O line D land, O line D line, quarterback play, toughness, physicality, smarts, all those things that Harbaugh brings to the table. But I thought during his Michigan run they were not, you know, they were not special at wide receiver. Michigan now has got some really good perimeter players. There's just not a lot of openings. I mean, Ohio State's got three or four guys defensively that are going to walk into the NFL and be stars as rookies. It's a really special group. And I think Ohio State to me feels a little bit like Alabama before Kirby Smart took the job at Georgia where you just kind of felt like in a big game in Alabama, Ohio State, they look a little faster, a little bigger, look a little faster. The difference is Julian saying, I mean, listen, he's not eligible for the draft, but when he is, there's nothing about him I don't like. I mean the game now has a couple minutes left in it. He's sitting there, snow everywhere, on the road, 27, nine lead. Look at, just change the play at the line of scrimmage. Here we go. I'll do it live. I mean this kid is really. Yep. Oddled into a run on third and six and they got within a football of getting it. I mean, windy, snowy, I mean through that Touchdown pass to Tate. It was blowing sideways, so, you know, it's just really impressive. And Ohio State, since that loss to Michigan last year, has just been a different program. They have galvanized everything. They don't make a ton of mistakes. The coverage doesn't break down. This is sort of what I thought we were going to get today. I think I said I thought it was going to be 30 to 13. And right now it's fourth and one for Ohio State at their 38 yard line. Timeout called. So the Big Ten championship will be Ohio State one against Indiana two. I don't know how long conference championships are going to last. What's the point? Like, what is the point? It's just playing another great opponent. I mean, if I was Ohio State, I would want to face Indiana once. I wouldn't want to face him the conference championship game, beat him by 14 points and then have to face him again. Kurt Signetti and that staff are excellent. Like, I wonder about the viability of conference championships games. I mean, I just. Do you want to have another 70 place for guys to get hurt? I don't. I mean, the playoff is so grueling. I mean, you got your big rivalry games at the end, then you have. The playoff can be up to three, four games. Do I need another game lodged in there? Ohio State picks up with four minutes to go. A first down, leading 27 to nine. That'll make it official. Yeah, those conference championship games, it doesn't feel like they'll be around forever. And what's scary if you're going to face Ohio State is this weather was built for Michigan because in terms of perimeter players, Ohio State has no peer in college football. So I mean, this. What could get in the way of a really slick offense is bad weather. And it's snowing and it's windy and it's cold and you're on the road, no effect. The only thing that's kept points off the board for Ohio State today because in this fourth quarter, they're picking up yards when they need to. They've worn down Michigan. Michigan's defense has been on the field too long. The only thing you worry about with the better team and the better passing team, you worry about weather, no effect. You worry about going on the road, not be able to hear communication. No effect at all. So congratulations to Ohio state. Julian saying 19 of 26, three touchdowns, 233 yards. Also impressive early pick unfazed. One of the sources I talked to today, text said I. He just said unfazed. Really likes the big stage. Keeps things simple, doesn't get distracted. Clearly, clearly an update on Lane Kiffin as we all wait with bated breath for the decision by Kiffin. I've said before, I think with Nil, I'd stay at Ole Miss or go pro if the Titans called or like the New York jets or the New York Giants called, who knows? I don't think you need to bounce around anymore for two reasons. One, Ole Miss has money. You can win almost anywhere. And it was different if you left. Let's say you win the Egg bowl and you're going to go to a, you know, a good bowl game, but you're not going to play for the national championship. That's much easier to leave. I think Ole Miss is not as good as Ohio State, but if they played Ohio State, they'd probably be a, what, seven, eight point underdog. Lane Kiffin would use that to his advantage. They would score, they would move the ball in Ohio State some. And their quarterback, Trinidad Chambliss also can, you know, he can run around and move and make plays. I think there's an argument Ole Miss is like the third or fourth best team in the country and you may not have to face the second or the third team because they get upset in the playoffs. So I don't love Kippen bouncing to LSU in the nil world or in the playoff world. It doesn't feel like the play to me. But I will say men are as loyal as their options, as comedian Chris Rock once famously said. And I think he should probably stay at Ole Miss. It's not for loyalty. Again, America is the land of opportunity. It's not the land of loyalty. When you hire Lane Kiffin, you're not going to be shocked that after success and lots of offense, which is what he does everywhere he goes, he's probably going to leave on his terms. If you're shocked by that, it's a you problem. His brand has been clearly defined. He is a great recruiter, he's a great offensive coach. He puts himself out there in social media, he'll spar with people. That's all clearly defined. And he leaves strangely, abruptly. Sometimes his terms, sometimes other people's terms. That's Lane Kiffin's brand. So you know Ole Miss saying, you know, whoa, this is, come on, man. You come on. That's what Lane Kiffin has done in his career. When you get involved with Lane Kiffin, it's not going to be a 30 year marriage. What you do hope is that he can turn around your program, stock it full of recruits, sell tickets, get the ball rolling, and then eventually you're 3, 4, 5. You move often or he moves off you. So again, I'd stand ole Ms. Or GoPro, I wouldn't bounce around the SEC. But the SEC has always been a conference. Eat or get eaten. And LSU doesn't care about anybody else in that conference except lsu. Another topic, should Texas get into the College Football Playoff? Well, nobody would keep them out. Losing to Ohio State. Close. And losing to Georgia. It's that loss to Florida that's more punitive. I tend to give SEC or Big Ten teams a little bit of a break in regards to a, you know, a bad loss. Just because Florida still has NFL bodies. Florida still. Florida's much worse now than they were when Texas played them. But I, you know, I tend to think when you play in 100,000 seat stadiums, NFL bodies, you get dinged up. But, you know, I don't think people are going to let them in. It wouldn't bother me. They beat Oklahoma soundly. They beat Texas A and M, which I predicted they would. They beat Vanderbilt. They've got most. Those teams were all ranked top 10 when they beat them. I don't think anybody else in college football did that, so I wouldn't have a problem with it. But, you know, it's. I'm a believer that if you schedule massive out of conference games and you're willing to go to Norman or Athens or Columbus, Ohio or Ann Arbor or South Bend, Indiana, I mean, you get on the phone and you're willing to go out of conference and play Ohio State and you lose. Close. I don't. To me, I won't ding you for it. It's like if you're in a bar and you're single and you walk up to the prettiest girl and ask her out, you know, you're classy, you're gracious, you're respectful and you ask her out and she says, no, I don't think less of you. I think more of you. You took a swing. I mean, I am always going to defend. I've been doing this since I got into this business. I will always defend. Playing top five programs, not on a neutral field. Nick Saban did a lot of neutral field games on the road and they were replacing, if I recall, four offensive linemen. Biggest start in Arch Manning's career. And they didn't play particularly well. Most of that because of Ohio State. But, you know, I respect the hell out of teams that do that. So I would be more than comfortable if Texas got voted into the playoff. I don't think they will and I would give them or any SEC or Big Ten team. I'll give you one bad conference loss. I have no problem with Sarko aggressively on social media and after the win over the Aggies, you know, promoting his team to get in. Mack Brown did it years ago. I mean that's, that's what we're talking about here. It's not the NFL. I do think college football has become, and I've said this multiple times, more like the NFL. About 30, 35, 40% NFL. They pay the players, they've got free agency. And I think the sport itself has to make some rules. Like you can't cherry pick a coach like LSU or Florida would like to do to Lane Kiffin. I don't think you should be able to do that as of now, especially with a playoff. You couldn't poach Andy Reid or Mike Vrabel from New England in the middle of the season. So I think the college football has to step up and recalibrate and you know, college football feels a little bit to me like the wild, wild west, like the early days of ufc. Got to get rid of that eye gouging. You know, you got to get rid of some of this poaching coaches and it's just ugly. It's not good for the sport, it's not good for fan bases. And Ohio State just picked off Michigan and that'll do it. 27 and 9. Two and a half minutes left. The better team won, the better team covered. And the Buckeyes now go to the Big Ten championship. See you soon. See you Monday. 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Date: November 29, 2025
Host: Colin Cowherd
Colin Cowherd delivers his immediate reaction to Ohio State’s dominant win over Michigan, discusses the state and future of conference championship games, muses on Lane Kiffin’s coaching trajectory, and weighs Texas’s legitimacy as a College Football Playoff contender. The episode captures Cowherd’s analysis in the wake of high-stakes results, with broader discussion on the evolving landscape of major college football.
First Half Tensions & Game Management ([05:55]–[07:25])
Julian Sayin’s Performance
Comprehensive Talent Edge
Physical Domination & Poise
Weather No Obstacle
“Julian Sayin, 19 of 26, three touchdowns, 233 yards. Also impressive early pick, unfazed. One of the sources I talked to today text said...unfazed. Really likes the big stage. Keeps things simple, doesn’t get distracted."
— Colin Cowherd ([15:44])
“Men are as loyal as their options.” ([17:27])
“It’s like if you’re in a bar and you’re single and you walk up to the prettiest girl and ask her out—you’re classy, you’re gracious, you’re respectful and you ask her out and she says no, I don’t think less of you. I think more of you. You took a swing.”
— Colin Cowherd ([19:40])
Colin is brash, confident, conversational, and uses vivid analogies (“tiny little football-sized boxes”, “took a swing”). His analysis is data-driven yet rooted in strong opinion and sports culture.
This episode delivers instant, insightful reaction to one of college football’s biggest games, while raising questions about the sport’s evolving structure and culture. Whether you care about the X’s and O’s, personalities like Lane Kiffin, or the fairness of playoff inclusion, Cowherd’s takes are lively, pointed, and unapologetically his own.