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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Colin Cowherd Podcast - Micah Parson Contract Circus, George Pickens LOVES Being A Cowboy, Can Schottenheimer Succeed?
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Katie Couric
The volume.
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Noah
All right. Matt Mosley has been to a lot of Dallas Cowboys camp. It feels like they're getting stranger every year. Is. Is Jerry morphing into an old Al Davis? So how many camps have you been to?
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Devin
Well, I guess you start in 2003 and you never stop. You stop 20, 25. So every. Every Cowboys camp into even the COVID That was strange. You had to. Yeah, they limited the media, so you really had to show, like, all your credentials that. And really. But you got every. Every training camp since 2003, which was in San Antonio in the Alamo.
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Noah
So it, yeah, The Rams and McVeigh are kind of scrimmaging with the Cowboys today, which are, I think most teams really like that over exhibition games, preseason games. So just from afar, you know, you have to be careful about OTAs and minicamps and camps. So the mica thing from afar feels like a circus, but when you're covering it, does it feel like a circus?
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Devin
Yeah, I mean, I've seen a circus and it involved Terrell Owens and his arrival here and the cryo chamber or whatever he had, the barometric pressure that he brought out all the weird stuff he had that was circus like. But yeah, this is, it's a circus from the outside and here because you have the star player out there. Yesterday I got out early to practice and watched him and he, he did not wear his team issued jersey, which Schadenheimer wanted him to wear. And then they went and talked to him and convinced him to put on his jersey. But I'm just. No matter what's happening in camp, it, it, it's like looms over everything. And so I have been at camp before when there's a big thing going on or a huge trade. I remember the Eagles beat the Cowboys to Oceano, you know, the big, the cornerback that Nam Day, Oceanois one year and boy, Jerry beating over that deal because he was trying to get a deal. And that was all happening in real time. We watched it all happening and this is a little bit like that in that daily we're spending as much time with our cameras and our eyes on Micah as we are what's happening on the field. And it's too bad because I think while Micah and Schopenheimer have really developed a nice rapport, I feel like it's overshadowing and somewhat undermining his whole operation.
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Noah
Well, I mean, lost in all of it is the fact that George Pickens, a really difficult guy to cover. I mean he's a very gifted guy. Emotional can be juvenile. But with CD Lamb and George Pickens just in pure, in terms of pure talent, those are tremendously gifted receivers. What are we getting from that side of the football? Football related Dax CD and Pickens.
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Devin
You know, I would say, and we had a good long visit with, with Pickens yesterday doing our Doomsday podcast. I would have order and you talk about a guy who is in heaven. I mean it's remarkable. And he and CD together, it's the best duo they've had in many Years, you know, CD and Amari Cooper were together. I think there's the potential because now CDs older and he's become a superstar and Pickens is in such a good headspace because he needed to get out of Pittsburgh. It's a contract year. It's just like the opposite of Micah's thing. Micah is just this. All this drama. George could not be happier and he believes that he's in. You know, I know we go back and forth on what Dak Prescott is, but what Dak Prescott is is way better than anything the Steelers have had the past three seasons. And so.
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Noah
Right.
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Devin
Told us yesterday, he said I'm going to go for 1200 yards this season. And I wouldn't. I wouldn't doubt it because one thing they're trying to do is instead of just throwing fades and vertical routes and go routes because they're hitting him on bubble screens, drags, crossers and. And I even watched him yesterday. There was some. Something the Cowboys did like on a rub route to get CD open. I mean, I'm just telling you, this guy is the happiest guy in camp like that. I came away from that George Pickens interview thinking I have not to is always brooding and weird and again, I had a really rough relationship with him and all that, but this guy is just I beaming now. I get it. Let's. Let's see how he is when they don't throw to him for a whole game or something like that. But right now, man, that those connections look good and what it's done. It's freed up whoever's going to be third wide receiver. Jalen Tolbert, Mingo, Jalen Brooks, like those guys now have less pressure on them. And like yesterday, two of those guys made like incredible circus catches. And I just think they have less pressure because they. You have two stars and they can just go be. That's what Aikman always used to tell me is that he cared more about the third receiver than he did the second receiver. And what it was is he just felt like with Alvin Harper and Michael, they paid so much attention that Kelvin Martin was his favorite guy because he knew he was always going to be open. So anyway, I would say right, right now the receiving receivers plus the quarterback, that's a very positive thing about this camp.
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Noah
You know, Matt and I've said this is that there. We all know there's about eight really great quarterbacks in the league. And I'd argue there's about eight great coaches. And I would similarly say there's about eight great owners. I definitely think 25 years ago, Jerry was thought of as a real maverick and a real risk taker and willing to push the boundaries of what the NFL would allow. I do think he's become a little bit of a liability as an owner. At camp. Does Jerry hold court? I mean, his age, obviously. I always see him. He's got the long sleeves and the hat. He doesn't, you know, the burning sun. But what is camp like with Jerry now at his age? How present is he?
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Devin
Same. Maybe not quite as visible as he once was. Maybe because of this Micah thing, maybe not quite doing as much media, but, hey, look at what he did the other day. The thing with. He asked for a trade Saturday. Jerry was waiting on it. Come and get it, folks. Come and get it. Gather around. I'm going to settle this thing down. And right now, Micah hasn't spoken again. And Jerry, basically, his oral response was like, this is just a joke. This is all laughable. He's not going anywhere. We're not trading him. And so in some ways, he's still able to. Again, I get it. It is a circus. He likes it. And there's something. I've heard you talk about this recently. I. I think this Netflix thing that's coming out where they're going to treat him like the Jordan treatment, where he gets like nine episodes. By the way, Ed Warder drops an F bomb, I'm told, in this, in one of the later episodes, which really, I know, bothers all of us that he's using that kind of language. But, yeah, this is gonna be. This will be fascinating to watch how, how all this plays out. But I'm telling you, Jerry knows this thing's coming out, and if you think he's not letting this Mica thing ride and knows that everybody's paying all the attention to it. But his whole thing Saturday was like, I gotta get out there, calm this down and let everybody know I'm still in charge. And he is now. He's still the face of it. The only thing I would tell you, it's a little different. Guy came by yesterday, and I had a Visit with Will McLay. Behind the scenes, when it comes to any sort of personnel, I mean, there's a reason he's had opportunities to be a GM elsewhere. I think they must take care of him huge financially here. He's. He's making tons of decisions when it comes to personnel. You know, Steven's heavily involved in all of that. But right now, this Micah, Jerry, Stephen, it's a It's a. It's. It's part of the Netflix documentary to them. I mean, that's what it is. And. And this will end, like, every one of these negotiations end. That's what's funny to me, that everybody jumps through these hoops and goes, he's not going to be here. I bet they're going to trade him. Or I bet he's going to. This is going to end poorly. It's going to end on September 1st when he signs a monster deal and he comes out and all is forgiven and we all move on. There's no, like, I. I don't even give it. I barely even give it a 1% chance of him. Him missing a game. There's no way he can. It's the reason he's here. You can't really send a strong message in a holdout if you're in your jersey at practice every day. But what kind of holdout is that? EMT was a real holdout. Like 1993. EMT held out for two games. He had the ultimate leverage because they went.02, and then they had to bow down and give him what he wanted. So this is. Again, this is a lot of. This is fluff. But it's fun. It's fun. I mean, but. But to Jerry, it's all. It's all like a TV show. It's just reality.
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Noah
I mean, I think it's understood. Brian Schottenheimer was one of those guys. He. He'd become what you don't want to become as a coach. He'd become a bounce around the league guy. And I've always felt that Jerry hires coaches who feel like. Like Jason Garrett wouldn't have been offered a job. Mike McCarthy was on the beach. Brian Schottenheimer wasn't going to get other head coaching offers. Jerry likes to be necessary. I've always felt that it's fairly obvious that, you know, Jimmy Johnson didn't need Jerry at the end, and Jerry didn't like that, and Bill Parcells didn't need him. But everybody since then, Chan Gailey wasn't getting a ton of offers. So I, I look at Brian Schottenheimer and I've said, there's an argument he'll be the weakest head coach in the league. It used to be that owners didn't like just paying off a staff, right? But that's when owners were worth $600 million. They're all worth $9 billion or 8 billion and up. So you're seeing Matt kind of regularly, coaches and coaching Staffs getting blown out after a year. My take is by Thanksgiving, it's going to get really turbulent and then Jerry's going to go out and go and spend big money on a coach like a Harbaugh level guy in the market. You're smirking at this, but I don't think the Schottenheimer thing, it feels a little like Freddy Kitchens. It feels a little like Brandon Staley. Where we're all going. I'm not sure. I'm trying to think of the last coaching hire. Eberfluss had a feel like this where we're all like, I'm not sure. He was up for a lot of coordinator jobs. Do you think it has a chance to succeed, Shadi?
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Devin
I don't know if anybody can truly succeed the monster personality you're talking about, whether it Sean Payton or, you know, whoever, because that's who's come up over the years. You know, it's Belichick. It's just not happening with this guy because to your point, he's moved past the desperation stage. Jerry, in his late 70s, had a, had a point in time where he truly thought, if I don't win another one before I die, this is going to, this is going to hurt, it's going to look bad, it's going to affect my legacy. As you said, Maverick now in the hall of Fame. He's moved past all of that. So never, never underestimate comfort to Jerry. And a coach like this gives him tremendous comfort. Now, what he has to hope for, the huge upside to this is that this is somehow Pete Carroll 2.0. This guy worships Pete. He talks like him. He brings him up constantly. You get fired by him, we might want to remember that. But the only thing I would caution you on is Schottenheimer. At least, I don't know. Might have been eight years ago, might have been 10 years ago. He was a hot name at one point. It just feels so far removed. Okay. When he was with Seattle, when he, he started calling plays and eventually he wanted to. Pete wanted. Had a different offensive philosophy than he did and they had to part ways. I, I will say this. I do talk to a lot of assistant coaches over the years that have been with him, and they are like, they can't say enough good things about him. You're right. I don't. I mean, again, it's a crap shoot. I. I can tell you what, what these practices look like. I would say the team is responding to him in a way they did not to McCarthy. I'm just talking about the way they act and the energy and everything I see from practice just completely looks like a different kind of. But again, you're right. Once the season starts. And the problem is, where do you find the wins? You are what I call the schedule savant. You're. You commit all these things. You're two things in life. You like remembering schedules and you like remembering depth charts in like offensive lines and you know, you know you have a great sense of. Yeah. Remembering all. So you can right now go through your mind and go all the trouble spots in this cowboy schedule and there's a lot of them. They've got to get off to a hot start. I would just say right now the reason Mike is even here and the reason Micah hasn't just gone totally rogue y is because of shot. I, I do think there's been a major connection with some of these players and even, even pickets coming from Tomlin, who he respects. He didn't say anything negative about Mike Tomlin, but they're buying in. They're buying in, in, in, you know, in a big way. So. But I mean, think about what it would take for the Cowboys to break through this year. You got to have two teams in your division underperform. Right? I mean, that's the. It's really the only way you break through. Unless you say all three teams make the playoffs, you. You have to have two of your division rivals not meet expectations. And it's hard for me to see right now, even though it looks like the commanders have a little bit of chaos going on in their camp as well. But I promise you, it's not like this.
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Noah
Yeah, it's. I mean, I feel I've come across and maybe I'm tougher on big brands, but like Notre Dame, I didn't think when Charlie Weiss left, I'm like, boy, I hope Marcus Freeman's ready to go. He's blown me away with his in game coaching, his recruiting, and it's always ebbs and flows like the Yankees right now as a big brand. Feel like they underachieve the Lakers over the last seven to eight years. You know, they had the COVID championship underachieved maybe. I pay so much attention to big brands. I just, I feel the demise of big brands is usually when they get really insular. And I felt it with the Lakers when they hired Rob Palenka, was Kobe Bryant's agent and they had like Rambus and I know Kurt Rambis and love him and they had. It became very insular. And I do believe The Cowboys feel like they don't have enough outside influence and outside eyes on them. I mean, they have. They have some good players. They don't feel like Philadelphia or Detroit or Baltimore, Buffalo, Kansas City, they. Rams, they don't feel that talented. But I think the best case scenario for Dallas, it feels like to me, is that the offensive line, which, you know, they've spent some draft capital on it, like they haven't ignored it. If the offensive line gels and his is a. Is a notch better than I think they. I think it's very middle of the pack. Last year I thought it was very middle of the pack. If the offensive line performs, Pickens & CD Lamb & Dak have a real relationship, a real chemistry. They have a little bit of a big play offense down the field. That's a. And I think a lot of it. You know, there's an argument the three things that matter in this league are quarterback, coach, and the most important unit is offensive line. It's almost impossible, Matt, to have a good offensive line and be a bad team. The top offensive lines right now are Philly, Detroit, Broncos. Sean Payton's cleaned it up. It's hard to be bad with a good old line. That's why the packers and Patriots, like the packers forever, have never just don't have bad offensive lines. Chicago can't get it together, but they have good players. So I guess if the O line stabilizes because they got some young draft picks on that, where are they? That's the best case scenario to me. We look up and go, oh, shit. The offensive lines actually in that top eight to 10. And Dak feels really comfortable with Pickens. Is that a possibility?
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Devin
The O line? Okay, you make a great point. They've got a big left tackle issue right now because they thought Tyler Guyton, who's a former first round pick out of Oklahoma, had made a big jumps this off season. He's hurt, and I think there's a chance he misses the first, you know, game or two of the season. And they have a guy named Nate Thomas over there. He's actually playing pretty well. They. They brought in Tyler Booker from Alabama. He had lost his job early in camp. I think they just used that to kind of motivate him a little bit. Whatever. He's kind of filled back in. He's okay. Tyler Smith is great player, All Pro type guy. They, you know, Terence still has to be better. I, you're right. It could be. It could be. Okay. I'm saying right now it's a major mark Though, because they got, they got some moving parts in that area. But, so, but good. That guy Nate. I just mentioned Nate Thomas, I gotta say. And, and I'm about to watch this joint practice as we record this today. I, I'm telling you man, he is. And maybe this says something about the Cowboys edge rushers right now. He's looked really, really good. He's in his second year out of Louisiana and he got hurt last year for the Cowboys and he stepped in at left tackle and he looks like, hey, the starter, he looks like the guy. So we'll see how he performs. I would say when Micah comes back. Here's one other good note. When we're talking about edge rushers and we're talking about offensive lines and all that, this Ezra Rocku, this second round pick out of Boston College who played for Bill o' Brien. Scar it like just. He, he's a little undersized, but man, if Eber Fl is able to work some magic with him, he's racing around dudes and Fowler, Sam Williams, this Marshawn Ne there is some depth at the defensive end position. And then you have Oshi osa, Odigo Zua on the inside and this guy Tyus. We. I didn't think it'd be okay on defense. And hey, Eber Fluss, for all the embarrassment of the hard knocks and the season that he had, I think he's regarded as a, as a, as a really respected defensive mind and a defensive coach. So I think, I think that, I think you hit on it. I think o line we got to watch that closely and then we got to watch that secondary because you know, Mike is not the only one moping around here. Trayvon Diggs is doing some big time moping right now and they're having trouble getting his jersey on it and they, they withheld some money from him. And I look over there and I see him. I mean he and Micah are the Moat brothers. They're just kind of sitting over there unhappy right now. And Trayvon Diggs is a huge part of what they need to be because he's the takeaway guy, I'll tell you. The former first round pick that you remember from the Buffalo Bills. Who's here, K K He's been great. Yeah, he said three or four picks mean just in the past, you know, few days and he has emerged and, and I covered his dad Abum. I mean he's, he's been good, but those are the positions right now. They're going to be fine at linebacker eventually. They're good on the defensive line. Major question mark on the back end and you brought it up. The offensive line will probably tell the story better. Way better options at running back. I will say that. And I'm not saying blow you away options, but fun rookies, like two fun rookies, one Jaden Blues, extremely fast out of University of Texas Mafa, who's a bigger dude who they picked later and then, and then Javante Williams is going to start for him and he looks fine. He looks fine. I mean they, they got several backs, a couple of backs and you know Sanders and Williams who were good about two or three years ago, but I, I think they are gonna be better at running back. I do think that. And, and this guy will run the football. Okay. The last guy did not like to run the football. And right now teams that are committed to running super bowl champs, teams that commit to it, good things happen.
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Noah
You'll find that most like Baltimore runs the ball. Buffalo's better since they got James cook, even the McVey and Kyle Shanahan, they're seen as offensive guys. Leur loves to run the ball. Most of the really good offensive coaches are not Mike Mart like they, they, they want to run the football. The, the, the young coaches right now. What I worry about Schottenheimer, and I've said this, I think not that analytics are a huge part of football, like baseball, but I do think, and you're noticing it in the NFL, that the quality of offensive coaching, coaching is smarter. So it used to be, for instance, if a quarterback failed, he got drafted and failed with his first team, he was screwed. Drew Brees was an outlier. Now you're seeing Baker, Gino Darnold, you're seeing multiple quarterbacks. How is it they bounce and they, they work for a third team or a fourth team. And the answer is because there's so many good young offensive coaches out there that it used to be a defensive league where if you didn't work with a team that drafted you, you'd probably end up in a defensive coach and a defensive culture. And if he did have a good offensive coordinator, he was gone after a year to get a head job. I think there are so many smart offensive coaches that it, it you're seeing all these rebound careers with multiple guys. I mean, like Darnold, Gino, I mean especially Baker Mayfield. Baker, like there are Saturdays, hell, he looks like a Pro Bowler in the nfc. So I, what I Worry about Schottenheimer. He's an old school offensive coordinator. Not as much motion, not as many sets. And I do worry that he's on the right side of it. He's an offensive coach. But is he a little bit of an outdated offensive coach? Because Lafleur, McVeigh, Shanahan, they feel very current. Very, very. Schottenheimer feels a little bit like, like the offensive game got a little sophisticated very quickly and he didn't quite keep up. That's my take.
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Devin
I agree with. They weren't serious. When you have these big time offense coordinators and Jerry hated the thought the guy, the guy in Chicago now that the fact that he got whatever he got 13 million, that sickens Jerry. It sickens him to have a first year coach. He cannot, he cannot stand that one thing. I'll say on Shoddy, tons of motion out here. I mean, that may not have been what he. I'd have to look back and really study what he was doing in Seattle and other places. They are so much more than with McCarthy. You wouldn't believe it. Lots of I got candy and in the past they tried to, you know where it was powered or whoever they brought in. They love, they love talking about gadget guys. Oh, we're gonna try to get this guy a lot of touches. They never could do it. They never could stomach because they got in the game, they didn't want to do it. The only thing they had was like one jet suite. They had nothing. They had, they had no things to go to. I'm telling you, we're seeing tons of motion. So I think he studied up on Shannon an and McVeigh. And of course we'll see McVeigh, his team here today. I mean, as you can see, the two teams against each other. But when I watch this offense and you can hear they started the massive music behind us to get ready for practice, but tons, tons more eye candy, more motion. And I've seen more rub routes in this camp than I've seen in the last 10 years combined. And when it happens, and it happens right, you'll see Shoddy come racing down the field to celebrate. That's the only thing I would say. Here's the X factor. I don't think you're totally wrong in thinking I don't think it was that great of a hire. I'm not that inspired by it, but I've almost never seen a guy this happy and this like. Like he, he's been waiting for this his whole life. He's got his Father legacy to think about. And he's emulating a pretty good guy. He's. He's trying to be the next Pete Carroll. And that's not a bad guy to emulate. There's only by one, because you saw him, he's 75 years old and he's still out running sprints and he's throwing. He's a fun guy. And he. Think about the way they think of the Raiders right now. In one hire, in one overnight hire. I saw somebody, some did the other day, they said the best coaching staffs in the deal. And I expected, like usual, the Raiders to be like the 30th best. Right? Because you're just like, that's the Raiders. And they were like the sixth or seventh best coaching staff. It's. It's. Suddenly he gave them credibility. It does stink for Cowboys fans that Jerry didn't even consider that. The thought of bringing in a Belichickian, Pete Carroll, monster coach, monster credentials. You know, even co. Even Johnson, even these guys that were young, inspiring offensive coaches, he didn't even dabble. He didn't even look at it. It's because at the end of the day, it was come back to what it is. He doesn't respect coaches and he never has. Yeah, you just ran over it. Chen, Gailey, Dave campo. You know, McCarthy was a retread. Yes, he had a Super bowl, but he'd grown extremely stale with Green Bay. He wants comfort. He wants comfort. Jason Garrett was the ultimate yes man. Okay, I like Jason, get along with him great. But, I mean, you can't find a bigger yes man than Jason Garrett. So I will just say this. He's managed a mica thing extremely well. I like to look and see how I think head coaches, GMs are handling volatile, weird situations. And in this case, Shotty's been beautiful with it. He's been beautiful because he and Micah talk on the phone. They have a separate relationship. Shotty's not trying to walk that fine line. Shotty is identifying and supporting the player over Jerry. Garrett wouldn't have done that. McCarthy wouldn't have done that. Campo, sorry. They hears this because I love Campo. None of those guys would have done it. They would have said, jerry, how do you want me to play this? Shotty's handling it in his own way, which is to favor the player over management. And I. I don't think. I mean, I think that makes him look pretty good, at least in my mind.
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Noah
All right, get out there. Rams, Cowboys, Matt Mosley, you have practice to cover. We appreciate 30 minutes, buddy. Get out there and do your job.
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Devin
I'll.
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Noah
I'll do it in the Doomsday podcast.
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Devin
This is how I like to cover practice. I like to get that cap on backwards. And this is. I find that people respect me more when I. When I give this love. All right. This is how I'll be today. All right. Appreciate you having me.
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Katie Couric
The volume.
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Manny
Why are TSA rules so confusing?
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Devin
You got a hoodie on.
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Noah
Take it all.
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Manny
I'm Manny.
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Noah
I'm Noah.
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Devin
This is Devin.
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Manny
And we're best friends and journalists with a new podcast called no such Thing, where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming? I can't expect what to do now. If the rule was the same, same go off on me.
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Devin
I deserve it, you know? Lock him up.
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Manny
Listen to no Such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Devin
No such thing.
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Katie Couric
On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Jasmine Crockett, Democratic representative of Texas. She's holding down the fort for her party in one of the most conservative states in the union.
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Unknown Host
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Katie Couric
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A.J. Jacobs
Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings appearance on the puzzler with A.J. jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land? Jeopardy truthers believe in?
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Freddy
I guess they would be conspiracy theorists.
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A.J. Jacobs
That's right.
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Devin
They gave you the answers and you still blew it.
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A.J. Jacobs
The puzzler listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Freddy
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Unknown Host
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