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Colin Cowherd Podcast - Nick Wright On Mahomes Being A Mt. Rushmore ATHLETE, Chiefs Roster Underrated, Most WRONG NFL Take Of The Year, Colin’s Big MOVE
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Colin Cowherd
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Nick Wright
No, Colin, there were five fumbles in the game because Mahomes Fumbled and Buffalo recovered all five. As far as back as the record books go, first playoff team ever to do that and lose. Like, it's very hard to go 5 for 5 on fumble recoveries and not win the game. They got very fortunate on that.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. My, my take on the entire game was very much like Matt Hasselbeck. Matt Hasselbeck and I and Drew Brees and I agreed that Sean McDermott acknowledged after the game. Yeah. On the fourth and one stuff, we, you know, we just kind of let Josh, you know, and we just kind of figure Josh we're going to kind of let him do it. And I'm like, Andy Reid has never once said, you know, I'm just going to let Mahomes kind of do it. And I've been on this now since you've known me at FS1 for eight years. I think offensive coaches are better with star quarterbacks than defensive coaches.
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Nick Wright
Sure.
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Colin Cowherd
And I think I. One of the things I've said about Brady is where Brady really deserves credit. He won with Arians, he won with Belichick, Charlie Weiss. He won with like six different people. Because remember, Bill didn't really run the offense. It was whoever the coordinator was. Is that I do think, and this is not a shot at Mahomes, all of us in life, some kids grow up with really doting rich parents and supportive parents and some kids grow up in chaos. Is Mahomes would be successful regardless. But do you think it's crazy to consider that if Mahomes and Allen switch coaches, that Allen would have more Super Bowls today than Mahomes?
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Nick Wright
Oh, yes, I do think that's crazy. I don't think he would have more Super Bowls than Mahomes. And I think that, listen, I think Patrick is going to go down as a Mount Rushmore athlete, not football player athlete. And I think that he is. Has a special innate ability that right now no other quarterback in like the people have been beaten over the head with the Mahomes stats. But some of them are just like impossible to believe. So he already now has more the more playoff victories.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Nick Wright
When his defense allows 29 points than any quarterback in NFL history. So he has four. He has won four playoff games with his events, allowed 29 points. That's. Tom did it. I think Peyton did it, I think three times and Tom did it once. Or I have it vice versa. But no one's done that. That Patrick has played 20. And then I'm going to get to the Josh Allen piece of this. Patrick has played 20 playoff games. Okay. Eleven of them were what I would call easy wins. They were leading in the fourth quarter, led the whole way. The nine games Colin that he was not that he trailed in the fourth quarter, six of them he won one of them he forced overtime against New England, never touched the ball. Another one, he forced overtime against Cincinnati, did not come through and lost. And the other one, they were down 31 to nine against the Bucks entering the fourth. So again, and put a little finer point on that. In his playoff career, in the fourth quarter, trailing by one score, he has had 14 possessions. They have tied or taken the lead 13 tops. And so. And the one time he didn't, he then got the ball back and did it.
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Colin Cowherd
So do you believe though that Andy Reid is a, is a, is a prominent part of that?
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Nick Wright
100%, absolutely. But I also believe the knock on Andy before Patrick came into his life was brilliant play designer. But in these exact moments I'm describing, gets tight and messes up the clock or situationally isn't buttoned up. That's how you lose a 28 point lead to the Colts with Alex Smith. That's how you lose an eight and in the playoffs an 18 point lead to Marcus Mariota. You know, Andy was the Chiefs coach when those things happen. So I think it's the perfect marriage. I think Andy is the perfect preparer of offense and plays and all of it. And Patrick is the steadiest hand in the world. And so to me, it's like the, the most brilliant medical school professor pairing up with the most naturally gifted surgeon ever. Like he is going to give you all of the tools and then you're going to, you know, be the one with the steady hand going to do it. So that, so that part is. And I think Josh is excellent. I also think that Josh had the ball three and a half minutes left, down three and got 17 yards and zero points. And that's a year after getting the ball back with six minutes left. Down three and got 40 yards and zero points. Like, that's not Patrick, that's not Andy. That's, that's in Those moments, the fourth and five play, Josh was excellent. First down, second down, he was not. Which set up the third and 10, which set up the fourth and five. Here is the thing I want to say about the sneaks, Colin. And this is where I'm surprised. More teams don't, more contending teams don't take a page out of the Chiefs notebook. Why at some point during the year didn't the Bills say internally, okay guys, I think we pretty much well know how to run this snake. Can we work on a couple other short yardage things?
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Colin Cowherd
So thank you.
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Nick Wright
A, teams have to prepare for other things, and B, even though we've been basically undefeated on it, if somebody has a wrinkle that can stop it, we have a pivot point instead. They just ran the same thing all year because it was so successful. And that's. That should be the lesson of the Chiefs. The Chiefs, early in the year, people like, oh, Kelsey's washed. And it's like, okay, he's obviously slowing down, but is it. Is it that he's washed or is it that they are saying, hey, it. It hasn't happened in years, but what if someone in a playoff game takes him away? Let's make sure Xavier Worthy's ready. Let's make sure everybody else is ready. And then in the AFC Championship game, he has his worst game in five years in the playoffs, and other guys step up. If you're contending for a championship, sometimes preparing to win the title is not the same as making sure every single possession of my week seven game against the jets is at the highest epa. And that's where the Chiefs have been brilliant and that's where the Bills, I think, have not been.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, and I. Yeah, and I think to defend Josh here because I think he's all time stuff.
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Nick Wright
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't think fans understand this. If you watched. I mean, I'm not going to give away where I heard this, but it comes from a good source. Belichick can't even speak offensive football. Like defensive coaches, they don't really understand offensive football. That's not what they do. And one of the things I've always pointed to, and I think I'm the only guy talking about this regularly, pat myself on the back. Have you noticed how offensive coaches can rearrange the deck chairs with an offensive line within an off season and fix it? And he's done it twice. McVeigh's done it two to three times during the season. Move left tackle multiple times this year. They were terrible in the first five weeks. By the end of the year, Stafford never got touched. Defensive coaches can't do that. Tomlin's on seven straight years of battle lines. I mean, Jeff Schwartz showed during the playoff loss, the Steelers offensive line mayhem. They didn't know where they were going. I mean, they were literally often pulling to the wrong place. Offensive coaches speak the language of offense and the league has pivoted to reward them. It's almost like if Trump, you Know when Trump goes out and says, hey, I am pro bitcoin cryptocurrency. I am pro cryptocurrency. Well, you know that, that benefits people in the industry. Like the NFL's basically said over the last 10 years, we're going to go offense, we're going to literally change the game. And so there's a big chunk of these defensive coaches, they don't speak it. They don't speak it. They don't understand the language. And what you're asking, which is why wouldn't they create a second play? Well, that's not their natural instinct. That's not who they are. Andy Reid in the off season will send me plays. He, he, he's working on that. He found on YouTube from Rose Bowls in the 40s. Like, hey, what do you. Hey, I'm, I'm not going to tell you when I'm going to use this. Don't share this. Look at this play. That's not what defensive coaches do. And I think it's just an innate advantage. The great.
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Nick Wright
So what do you think they should do? Because the thing is, because, because the. I, I agree with a lot of what you're saying and I also, it's like, but there isn't A, the proven all excellent offensive coach available. B. Belichick took the Carolina job. So it's not like, hey, let's just get better situationally. And you know, even if it's short term, he's beaten Andy, he's beaten Patrick. And I understand the folks who are like, man, if, if it's been this long, you haven't broken through against this team. Even if McDermott's an excellent coach sometimes what happens to Mark Jackson to elevate to Steve Kerr as Brew talks about needs to happen. I get all that, but can you take the risk of this part of Josh Allen's prime of we're handing the reins over to a first time unknown head coach because he's an offensive guy.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, no, I think, listen, I think so was Sean McVeigh and so was Matt LaFleur. Right.
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Nick Wright
I think he was all the guys who failed. Like, you know what?
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Colin Cowherd
I.
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Nick Wright
Go ahead.
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Colin Cowherd
No Sean McDermott. I think my comp has always been Chuck Knox. I'm saying this is my age. But Chuck Knox was known as an organizer, highly compet B plus coach, Seahawks, Bills. If you were a shit show, he got you on the right path. But he was called ground Chuck because the playoffs would come and like Marty Schottenheimer, he got hyper, conservative and I just Think that's your fate in life? Is that sometimes, Nick, you know, let's just take our business, for instance, is that some people in my age don't do social media. I think it's a huge disadvantage. I do a ton of social media. I've got a big TikTok clip on brawny today that'll get 3 million people. I feed into it. I'm into it. I love it. Not everybody 60 plus with gray hair is into all these social media platforms. The world we're in has changed. TV doesn't drive all the business. I'm comfortable with it. There are other things in other industries people aren't comfortable with. The NFL's culture has changed. It's all offense. And so a lot of these defensive coaches, they're beholden to hiring the right O.C. and the minute, you know, Josh McDaniels and Brady leaves Belichick screwed, there's nothing he can do. He doesn't know what he's doing. And so I think it's just like anything else. This is something I think about all the time in broadcasting. I'm watching the culture. I'm not worried about me being good or you after me being good. I'm not worried about my staff. What I'm constantly worried about in the volume is where's the culture going? Where is it going? I want to be ahead of where the culture's changing. I know my people are talented, so that's the stuff I lose sleep over. Offensive coaches have been given the baton by the league, and defensive coaches now are trapped. They're totally beholden to hiring the right OC and they know if he's any good, in two years, he gets a head job. So it's a. It is really a disadvantage to be. I feel bad for Sean McDermott. What, is he on his third or fourth OC?
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Nick Wright
Well, right. You had Dable, you had Dorsey. Dorsey, and now you have Brady.
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Colin Cowherd
You're on your third.
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Nick Wright
So you're. You're on your third. No, the. The.
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Colin Cowherd
And each one's a different language. I mean, with Andy, he's always got.
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Nick Wright
The system correct, and that's. Well, listen, the Chiefs are the. The dream scenario is brilliant offensive head coach paired with brilliant defensive coordinator who the whole league has just decided can't be a head coach. And then it's just like, okay, we lose.
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Colin Cowherd
But for the record, this is why what Ben Johnson did in Chicago is great. Dennis Allen's not getting a head job.
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Nick Wright
I totally agree with that. That's exactly right. That could be His Spagnolo. Exactly right.
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Colin Cowherd
And he hired a 28 year old OC that nobody's going to hire for four years until he's 32. So basically, Ben, I thought this was the smartest move of all the coaches. Ben Johnson hired two assistants, will not leave for four years. He got it. He, he and that organization's been all movement and chaos.
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Nick Wright
And also a similar thing might happen for Variable because I don't know who's giving Josh McDaniels his next opportunity, but it'll be time.
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Colin Cowherd
He never sold his house there either.
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Nick Wright
Right. And so with like McDaniels, he got the Broncos job that didn't work. He walked out on the Colts, he got the Raiders job that didn't work. So if you're variable and you're like, okay, Drake May's the future, I don't want Drake May to have this rotating offensive coordinator situation. Josh McDaniels is perfect because it what is probably doesn't get another head coaching job. And if he does, it's in like five, six, seven years.
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Colin Cowherd
That's right.
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Nick Wright
It's one of the sneaky. I don't want to make Commanders fans feel worse today, but semi concerns for Jaden is what you definitely want Jaden to be awesome again, right? Okay, sure. If he's awesome again next year. Cliff Kingsbury is getting another job. It's just, you know what I mean? Like the, the only way Cliff Kingsbury. This sounds so shitty, but the only way Cliff Kingsbury doesn't leave Jaden Daniels in a year is if next year goes terribly so. That like that is the curse of the defensive head coach is you're going to have to worry about that for, you know, see Demi CJ with D'Ameco amazing as a rookie. People are worried, oh, man, Bobby Slow is going to get a head coaching job. Then this year Slog's bad. They get rid of him either way that, that, that turnover. So yeah, that's why I thought, as much as I respect Variable and think he's an excellent coach, for Caleb's sake, I wanted them to hire Ben Johnson because the hope is he is he is hearing this offensive language for the next decade and that's the only way you can guarantee that is an offensive coach.
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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Nick Wright
Buddy, my former intern, sorry to interrupt in Kansas City. And I, who I'm sure hates that I always call my former intern because he's now the Afternoon drive host on 610 in Kansas City and has been for a long time. He has a weekly interview with Patrick Mahomes and has had it for years. And God bless Carrington Harrison, who does a great job. That poor guy never ever gets any news out of it because Patrick says nothing. Like he's had a weekly exclusive interview with Patrick Mahomes for five years. And if you ever played one clip of it on your show, the answer is probably not. Because Patrick is just so trained to say nothing. Just say absolutely nothing. But go ahead.
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Colin Cowherd
So. And that's how I like my quarterbacks. I've said this Johnny Manziel, Baker Mayfield, Jameis Winston, Cam Newton. If I see ego, if I see self importance, if I see Jay Cutler grumpiness, I just do not like it. And I think I've overwhelmingly been right. So I watched Nick Sariani's opening press conference. It's the worst I've ever seen. He's terrible at the podium. He wore a jersey at the last time after last win. He's yelled at fans, he's gone after players and he's had position coaches hold him back. His methodology stinks and yet they love him. And I'm like, this is Ridiculous. This is the exact opposite of what I want my coach to be. And I. So I've come to try to figure it out. And I went and watched in Chicago. I went and watched comedian Sebastian Manikowsko. Very, very funny guy. Great performer. He reminds me a lot of Chris Rock. He's like Ali in his prime. I mean, he's got the look, the physicality. He's really a performer, very funny. And a lot of his act is his Italian family and how dysfunctional and how they yell at each other. And the love is so deep and embedded in the family. And I've learned this cultures are different. There are couples that argue, that yell at each other, and I'm like, oh, this isn't gonna work. And they've been married 37 years, and I imagine the makeup sex is great. Like, they just get along. It just works. And I've come to terms with Sirianni is that in a highly emotional city with a highly intense GM and fan base and radio media that's just barking and make. He just fits. He is the family member. He can handle the bs, he can handle the noise. He. Sometimes he's half fan. I just thought this is. He's very dependent on coordinators.
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Nick Wright
Here's the thing, man. Everything you're saying is fair. I still can't get there with him. Like, everything you're saying is true. Here's what's also true. Had they blocked Jalen Carter, they being the rams on that third down in round two, I think it's possible he was fired 10 days ago. If after that, if up 13 against the Rams with Jalen Hurts injured and then up six when he called that. That bootleg play action rollout on second and seven, and that resulted in a dozen yard sack. And all of a sudden, Stafford's driving down the field, down six, chance to steal the game. I think they might have gotten rid of them. Now instead, he's a game away from having the greatest start to a career any coach ever. I don't know what to make of it. I. Because everything. Every instinct I have says, well, this guy's just a doofus.
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Colin Cowherd
The same.
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Nick Wright
But you have, like, if any position should be judged based on their record, it should be head coach. And his record is historically good. So I don't. It really tests a lot of my beliefs of what should and what does work in the NFL. And so, yeah, this one, I mean, this offseason, they totally, you know, what's the word that's always used in political Twitter definition? Him. I think is the word. They didn't even let him pick his own coordinators. You know what I mean? Early in the year, he's. He's freaking out, yelling at his fans after winning. Even after the NFC Championship game, Jalen hurts. It's like, yeah, coach finally let me out of my straight jacket. Like, that's a weird thing. The whole. So I don't know. But they haven't lost a game that Jalen started and finished in four months, and they're playing in the super second super bowl in two years or in three years. So, yeah, this. That one baffles me. That's. That's my worst. I was basically perfect on my AFC preseason takes, saying, and I'm predicting.
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Colin Cowherd
It's become a very easy conference in the standings to predict.
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Nick Wright
And so I. I got. And I could not have been more wrong about the nfc. So I obviously, famously had the Bears not only making the playoffs or winning the conference, but I also had the Eagles missing the playoffs. I did. I had Washington finishing ahead of the Eagles. And my rationale was, man, something really weird happened last year to that team, and I don't trust this coach to pull him out of it. And I also thought Saquon Barkley would be good, but not great for them. But instead, Saquon had one of the greatest years any running backs had in the history of football.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, no, it's.
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Nick Wright
I really whiffed on the NFC stuff this year. I just.
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Colin Cowherd
I think.
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Nick Wright
And even my gambling on the NFC was worse this year. I do think that there's probably a tax for me on being so dialed in on Kansas City that I see the AFC a lot clearer than the NFC.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, also, in the last 11 years, if you count the Super bowl, there's been 10 different quarterbacks from the NS NFC represented in the Super Bowl.
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Nick Wright
Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Jalen Hurts is the first in 11 years to do it twice. Like, you don't know who's going to win the nfc. I mean, you know. Yeah. So you don't know because all the.
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Nick Wright
Hall of Fame quarterbacks, except for the packers quarterback, basically, over a long period against Breeze and Rogers, were the two great NFC quarterbacks, and then all the other ones were in the afc. Can I ask you a question?
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Colin Cowherd
Sure, yeah, go ahead.
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Nick Wright
After this year, take this year out of it. This group of quarterbacks, the Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Lamar, that group, they're all 28, 29. Let's say, optimistically, they all have 10 more good years. That's probably on the high end, but let's give them a decade. 10 more seasons. The 20, 25 season onward, man, at least one of those guys is never making, much less winning a Super bowl, like, moving forward. So I know Joe's already made one, because here's the way I was thinking about. I'm like, okay, because everyone's like, do you think Josh will eventually get one? And intellectually, I'm like, yes, of course. He's the second best player in the league. Of course he'll get one. But then I'm like, well, wait a minute. Okay, so in the next 10 years, let's say Patrick slows down. He only makes four of the next.
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Colin Cowherd
Or Andy. Andy Reed retires.
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Nick Wright
Yeah, so. So let's just say P. Let's say patrick only makes four of the next 10. So there's six. So that's six for Lamar, Josh, Joe, I know you've got Justin HERBERT Getting to one eventually. Bo Nicks, C.J. stroud. And we're talking about 10 years. So is couple more generations coming into the league like these guys? All of these guys being in the AFC is devastating for the resumes they're trying to build.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, and the one that's in trouble is Joe Burrow. The Bengals had to sell naming rights to the stadium to pay his contract. People don't understand this. The gentleman who. First of all, the Bengals don't have any money. They don't have any money. It's just like the poorest ownership group. Joe Burrow knows it. They had to sell naming rights to a stadium to pay him. They.
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Nick Wright
They.
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Colin Cowherd
They started peeling off players even before they paid Jamar Chase. They're peeling off of them now.
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Nick Wright
They haven't paid Jamar yet.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, yeah. And they're already peeling off players. They are the opposite of the Eagles. They are anti risk and reward. They take no risks. Tobin, the general manager, has been there forever. Pleasant, very nice guy, got no power. I mean, the Brown family runs the organization. They are essentially a triple A operation in Major League Baseball that happens to have Joe Burrow.
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Nick Wright
Joe Burrow. People.
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Colin Cowherd
People make fun of the Raiders. The Raiders, because of some new ownership groups that have come in, are flush with cash. That's why they can pay four coaches and three general managers. They got nothing but money. They got. Mark Davis has nothing but money. And the Raiders are a brand. And also, it's Las Vegas. It's a growing city. There's real money there. No state tax. Very attractive place. Cincinnati, they got no money. Burrow. They'll never have a stacked roster. The only Time to really be great with him was when he was on the rookie contract. When they pay Jamar Chase, they're out of money. Like Joe Burrow. I feel terrible for him. Joe Burrow would need to be superhuman. I mean, this year he was as good as he's ever been. They couldn't make the playoffs. Herbert's going to get better with Harbaugh. Like that's going to only get better, right?
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Nick Wright
That's what I'm saying. Like you're just Herbert.
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Colin Cowherd
I think Burrow is the one in trouble.
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Nick Wright
And here's the other. Here's the other concern for all those guys. Will they maybe different for Joe because he's done it. But will those guys be able to play Patrick Mahomes, beat him, which is part of the hypothetical, and then psychologically be able to recenter and be like, that wasn't the Super Bowl. Not like we, we like that's the thing that I would worry about for the Bills. Not I do think, listen, Mahomes is not going to go undefeated against Allen in his career. In the playoffs they will win. But man, if next year the Bills finally beat the Chiefs in the playoffs, it's going to be really hard to psychologically then reset and be like, actually the next game's the tougher, bigger one. And so that's I the we have never. I can't remember a time when it felt this disproportionate in quarterbacking talent conference to conference. And what it's going to mean for these guys kind of legacies when it comes to who they were as far as winning players or winning championships.
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Colin Cowherd
So I grew up a baseball fan, but the sport, it's like what Democrats name like Bill Maher will say, the Democratic Party is leaving me. I haven't changed. I was a baseball guy over a football guy when I was a kid. And then the sport just got slow and ponderous and football was just better on television. And I've lived through TV like that's my life as a kid. I'm going to throw something at you that I think is going to happen is that I think if you take out the NFL, that every other sport is dependent on where the best players play. And it does not help. For instance, college football got too Southern and too regional. Alabama, Georgia, Clemson. It hurt the sport. Michigan and Ohio State's emergence will help the sport. Over time, it will bring a big group. I'm a West coast guy. I was a Big Ten Pack 12 guy because the Rose Bowl. So I'm more of a Big Ten guy than an SEC guy. Although I can acknowledge the SEC is great. I think we're going to have a change here in the next five to ten years in sports. And that is when the regional sports networks went away and FOX let them go. They were out of money an hour later. And those were vital to Pittsburgh's Cincinnati, Oakland, Kansas City, Seattle. They were vital. The sport now is basically in the hands of the Dodgers, Steve Cohen. And I mean, I'm not sure the Yankees and the Steinbrenners can compete. Steinbrenners are saying they can't. What you're seeing now in baseball is all the riveting players play for the Dodgers, the Phillies, the Mets or the Yankees. And I think we're going to have a renaissance in baseball is that with the. With these regional networks gone, there's not even the. Forget the fake appearance that there's parody. There are like four kings at the top. Everything else is a pawn, nothing else.
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Nick Wright
And you think that's good for the sport?
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Colin Cowherd
No, no. What I think it's good for is the primary weakness of baseball. It's television ratings. The attendance is fine. It's always dominated the summer. It has died on television. Last year's National League playoffs, it was like New York, L.A. san Diego, and eight of the best 13 players in the sport. And that. We always think parity matters. No, it doesn't. The truth of the matter is if the Celtics, Chicago Bulls and the Lakers were great right now, the NBA would be in great shape. Oklahoma City is not good for the league. There is this belief. This is what I always say about Kansas City. Dynasties aren't bad. Great players on great brands are not bad for the league. I think we're going to have a renaissance. I think the Dodgers, Steve Cohen and the Mets, the Yankees and maybe one other team will not be able to afford the best players.
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Nick Wright
That.
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Colin Cowherd
That's it. Philadelphia, maybe Phillies, because their attendance and their merchandising is so strong. I don't know about their tv, radio deals locally, is that I think baseball has something the NBA doesn't. All their fascinating players. I mean, if I told you this, the six big TV products, they have Ohtani Judge, Bryce Harper, Mookie Betts. Yeah, no, it's all Manny Machado, Ted Te. They're all in the big. They're all in these big, glossy, favorable markets. There's my take is that we're going to have a renaissance, that baseball is going to come storming back. It did in the postseason.
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Nick Wright
So I think this year is the Most important year baseball's had in a very, very long time. Because of two things, and you kind of alluded to both of them. One is the momentum of last postseason, which is absolutely tremendous. And the other is the general angst and annoyance by the average fan towards the NBA. Yeah, I think that it is incumbent upon baseball to. And I don't have a. Listen. I haven't spent a lot of time thinking about this, so I don't even know exactly what I mean by this, but to seize this moment because I agree with you. I mean, we did our show from the World Series. Now, that's because it was in New York, so it was easy to get to. But also because we were all so into it.
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Colin Cowherd
It was great.
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Nick Wright
It felt like such a cool event. And it was. It was so lively and active. And it made me remember when. You know, and when we. When I first started, it was shortly after. When you first started was before I even had a show. We were doing our shows from the NBA Finals even though they were not in la. It was Warriors, Cavs, every year. And we traveled to Cleveland to do our shows because it was such an event that I think baseball. So I was talking to a mutual friend of ours. I don't think he'll mind me saying this, so I'll just. Yeah, I'll quote him on it. Our friend Maverick. And he said that the media is moving towards an events model where things have to feel like an event. And it's why even though Mike Tyson, 60 years old and could barely get to the ring. That was huge. It felt.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Nick Wright
And the NFL, every game feels like an event.
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Colin Cowherd
You'll have the College Football Playoff.
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Nick Wright
It's big. Playoff is exactly.
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Colin Cowherd
UFC feels big event.
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Nick Wright
And so that's really, really hard for baseball. So, you know, because there's so many games. So finding ways, maybe it is via marketing their stars to F to pick these benchmarks that are their events of the year or matchups or game.
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Colin Cowherd
This is where Fox gets credit. They're the one that came up with the London game. The game in the Cornfield Field of Dreams game.
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Nick Wright
100%.
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Colin Cowherd
That felt big.
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Nick Wright
That's an event. Like something cool like that that makes it stand out from the. The noise of everything else. That's right. Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
No, that was Fox. Fox management came and said you guys need more big events. And they work. By the way, I watched the London games. They were cool. It felt special.
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Nick Wright
The Field of Dreams game is cool every year. It's just awesome. It looks cool. It's. It's great.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, no, I think Maverick Carter's right on that. I think there's a lot of reasons for that. But I think you have to, you know, like I, it's easy to root for the Dodgers or the Chiefs. Like I have the Dodgers on throughout the summer in Los Angeles. Everybody, every other guy that comes to the bat is an All Star. It's like an All Star game. I mean, seriously, you get down to like Teoscar Hernandez is batting fifth and you're like, jesus, he just dominated the series in the Bronx. Like, everybody's great. The whole damn team is great. Like, I mean, they've got Tommy Edmond batting eighth. He was like the NLCS mvp or like it's not, it's an All Star team. What's on your list of popular game day foods? Probably multiple dishes with a bold flavor of the original Louisiana brand hot sauce. You can't beat the original with a 90 year history of great taste and quality. Tailgate, house party, game day gatherings, whatever. Include real flavor sliders with the original Louisiana brand hot sauce. The beer cheese with that hit of Louisiana peppers. There has to be original Louisiana brand hot sauce on your game day food list. It's the perfect everyday hot sauce that complements every meal. There's a rich food tradition in Louisiana bringing bold peppery flavor with just the right amount of heat. Pigs in a blanket. Pigs not in a blanket. Spinach artichoke dip. Artichoke spinach dip. Wings are wingier than ever with the original Louisiana brand wing sauce. Perfect for self appointed flavor experts. The original Louisiana brand hot sauce. The game day flavor changer Flavor favors the bold. Available at a store near you.
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Colin Cowherd
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Nick Wright
No.
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Colin Cowherd
And he said, he said no. Kansas City's got six to seven players that Buffalo, that would start immediately for Buffalo over players perceived as really good players for Buffalo.
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Nick Wright
So all, all just, you know, listen, I think Patrick, if you give him a chance, finds a way and I obviously Andy is, you know, we've talked about it, might end up the greatest coach of all time. He's certainly now on the Mount Rushmore and moving up. But it's also the margins are so thin in what makes a good team great and a great team legendary. So I'm just going to go to two seemingly innocuous draft day transactions that involve the Chiefs in the Bills and I'm not.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, and you're right with both of these, by the way. You're right with both of these.
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Nick Wright
So. Yeah. And I'm not talking about the Chiefs trading with the Bills to get Mahomes. Set that aside.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Nick Wright
In, in 2021 after the Chiefs trade. In 2022 Chiefs trade Tyree Kill. They have the extra first round pick. The New England Patriots are on the clock. The Bills are drafting right after him. The Chiefs need a corner. They're drafting later. The Bills need a corner. The Chiefs trade up with New England with the express purpose of getting ahead of Buffalo. They draft Trent McDuffie, great. Who now is a two time All Pro and in my opinion a top four corner in the entire NFL.
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Colin Cowherd
University of Washington. I watched him 25 times in college.
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Nick Wright
Spectacular player.
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Colin Cowherd
Spectacular player again, two time.
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Nick Wright
Not Pro Bowl, All Pro. After three years in the league, the Bills still need a corner. They got jumped. They take Kyr Elam who has been at the bottom of their roster since they took him. When he got put in the game because Binford got hurt on Sunday, Romo basically was like, well, they're in trouble. That happened in the draft last year. In the draft, the Chiefs and the Bills both need a receiver. The Bills do not value Xavier worthy because they like a lot of people, by the way, think, ah, £160. I don't know, man. The Chiefs want him because Patrick really, really wants him. The Bills want a big red zone target. They want Keon Coleman. He's going to be there later. So they're like, I think we were going to take Keon here anyway. Probably might as well get the extra pick trade with Kansas City. Kansas City takes a receiver, Xavier Worthy. They take Keon Coleman. Man, you flip those two players in the AFC championship game. Buffalo wins if the cheat. If the Buffalo is Trent McDuffie and not Kyrial or Xavier Worthy at 100 yards and a touchdown. Keon Coleman had nothing.
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Colin Cowherd
Buffalo, see, I'd push back. Buffalo wouldn't use him like Andy Reid. Andy Reid, because I was one of those. He's £160, he's a gadget guy. And he was in the first two months of the season.
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Nick Wright
Yep.
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Colin Cowherd
It's Andy's development of him into. I mean, if you go look at Rasheed Rice, he came in, you're like.
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Nick Wright
And he was awesome. By the end of the year, people.
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Colin Cowherd
Are, I talked to Andy Reid about this today on the show or it'll be Wednesday. If you're listening Thursday morning. I'm like, everybody thinks college and high school is development. I'm like, take me through the process of how you turn a gadget guy into a volume guy. And he just said, we asked him to do a bunch of stuff and not all the players will do this. Xavier Worthy said yes to all the things we asked him to do because Xavier Worthy, I talk to people before the draft. I get a lot of my opinions and they're like, he's a gadget guy. He's not a 12 target guy. And Andy made him that. So I don't think if. I don't think of Xavier Worthy, I don't think if he's in Buffalo he ever becomes the chief.
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Nick Wright
That might, that might be true. McDuffie I think is great anywhere. I think he's just a great player. And so it's just. The point I'm making is like it's, it's really got to be the whole organization, Brett Veach pulling in the same direction. If you are trying to achieve something no team ever has, which what they're trying to do.
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Colin Cowherd
How about this? The Chiefs have made five of the last six Super Bowls.
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Nick Wright
Yes.
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Colin Cowherd
The Eagles and Niners, two each. The other two winners, Rams and Bucks, what do they have in common? Uber aggressive GMs all make moves at the deadline, all trade up to the draft. Conservative teams like the Steelers and Packers, Bingles in the end in personnel, they can't keep up. Is that this is a real thing? Is that Veech? Look at the trade ups. Mahomes, McDuffie. And this is why Joe Burrow is screwed. Look at Howie Roseman. I mean, everybody talks about the Saquon Barkley move. That wasn't even brilliant. That was an easy one.
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Nick Wright
I could have made that move. I mean, right. And I'm not the. I don't want to undersell it because again, I underestimated Saquon. But the risky moves are you bring up Howie. Listen, Howie Roseman said Jalen Carter might be the most talented player in this draft. He's falling because of the off the field issues with the car accident in the tragedy there. We want him, we think he's a superstar and we're going to trade up. They traded up with Chicago. Chicago had that pick. Traded back. They take Jalen Carter. He's instantly, you know, the best D tackle in the whole conference for them. Like. Yeah, that's, that's right. The things less snee did. Jason Light with the Bucks. It, it really, if you, it's too hard to win championships in this league. Yes. You need to have a quarterback that kicks ass almost always. You also though need, you know, this, the sharp head coach and the forward thinking GM and the guys, the young players to develop. You gotta, you gotta hit all of it in quick succession.
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Colin Cowherd
So, you know, I'm moving to Chicago here in the spring.
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Nick Wright
Have you.
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Colin Cowherd
So it's official.
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Nick Wright
It's official.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I bought a house.
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Nick Wright
Well, I, Well, I did see that you bought a house, but I didn't know if you had bought it officially. Is this, is this breaking the news?
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Colin Cowherd
No, no. First of all, it's. I figured you and I talk about this stuff and so. No, I, I mean, I told FOX six months ago and Fox has been great. Fox has been.
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Nick Wright
I, I know, I know. Fox knows. I'm saying, is the audience finding this out from you for the first time right now?
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Colin Cowherd
I don't know if they are. I don't think they care because when you watch me on tv, you don't care where I'm at, do you?
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Nick Wright
So are you going to be, do you think full time? Chicago?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. 80, 85%. I'll come and do a week during the football season in Los Angeles. I'll do a week like in September. I'll come out for a week, October, November, and the staff will build. You know, we'll have a lot of life. But 90% of my guests, you're a great example of my three or four strongest guests that pop a rating. You're one of them. You're not live next to me. Joel Clatt is probably a strong as any guest. I have because he is in studio and we go back and forth at each other. But the truth of the matter is, as is, Brady's been on Drew Brees and Hasselbeck. They're not live. You're not live. Cosell's not live, man.
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Nick Wright
Your film breakdown. Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
No. So none of it's live or none of it's in studio? I am because I think my wife has given a lot to my career and sacrificed. I love Chicago. I've said my two favorite cities in the world are London and Chicago. I like la. My wife doesn't like it as much. I like la. It's kind of spread out for me. I kind of like the downtown area. I like Kensington Paddington in London, I like kind of urban areas where I can just walk all day long. In Los Angeles, I don't have that. Chicago, I can just walk downtown. I like that. I like Florence, Italy, London, Chicago. I like walking around a town. You can't do that in Houston, Atlanta, Los Angeles, Louisiana is just too spread out. So I. I like where I live, but it lacks that sort of feel for me. And so I love the city. She's got her sister there. I've got a lot of friends there. And I think it's just time to help. I think it's time to be a better man, a better guy and be.
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Nick Wright
That's so this. Well, a number of things. One is, that's touching that you're doing this for your wife, I think is fair to say. The. I think that's great. I think it is also exciting. You've never lived there. Correct. So like, you, you. I know you have an apartment there. Like you spent time. But you've lived a lot of places, but you've never had, you know, where you spend the majority of your time be Chicago, so. Correct.
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Colin Cowherd
I've lived in four different homes in LA in eight years. So I move a lot.
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Nick Wright
You move a lot?
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Colin Cowherd
I do. I've lived in Connecticut. I've lived in Portland. I've lived in Las Vegas. I've lived in Tampa. I live in Los Angeles now. Chicago. You know what I always said, Nick? I think it's an advantage as a broadcaster. I think it gives me a sense of every region. When I lived in Tampa Motorsports, SEC football, I didn't know the passion. It's like, wow. For two years, I really learned what people care about. I look at it and first of all, you know, Chicago. Chicago is one of the great guy cities ever. Great bars, great stakes, great sports, great beach. It's just Incredible.
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Nick Wright
I mean, yeah, you, you know, you're gonna. You're breaking our dear friend Danny Parkins heart. Because I saw the article. Because you listen, you're, you know, you're big time. When you buy a house and it's a news story, it's like, wow, famous broadcaster, con cow.
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Colin Cowherd
I hate that so much.
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Nick Wright
And that. I know you hate it, but it's cracks me up. But because of that, not only did I know you bought a house, but I know where it is. It's like six minutes from where Parkins used to live. And now Danny moved to Chicago. He's still you and him still, I don't think have ever met in person. You guys are going to be in person together for the first time ever at the Super Bowl. But it also means all. See, if you're in Chicago, you're going to be in New York more often because you don't come to New York ever. And I now it's a short enough flight. I can guilt you into it. Our wives who have spent no time together can get together. We can go to Broadway. Have I told you this about me? That the oddest thing that happened with me moving to New York is I found out I absolutely love Broadway. And when I say love Broadway, I mean like, I. I've seen Wicked four times. I see every. All the shows. I don't care how it sounds. I know people. Here's the thing. When I got to New York, I'm like a musical that sounds terrible. Who.
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Colin Cowherd
Right?
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Nick Wright
And then you go and it's like, oh, this is really like having courtside seats to the NBA in that. Yeah, you're this close. And these are the best in the world at what they do performing live. And so that's like the food and Broadway are what I love about New York more than anything. But. But so you'll be a little closer. That's exciting. Congratulations. It also means FS1 is now like, we're everywhere. We're in New York, Chicago, Louisiana.
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Colin Cowherd
That was.
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Nick Wright
Need a Denver or something? I don't know.
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Colin Cowherd
No, that was my pitch. I said, Fox News, nobody's in New York. And they're all over the country. Why does FS1 have to all be in LA? And my take was, we don't have a show in the middle of the country. Why not?
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Nick Wright
Yeah, that was. That was your pitch? Yeah, my pitch was probably like, this is really what I want to do. And you guys, I'm. I'm an important, good employee. You should probably.
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Colin Cowherd
No, I didn't say that, No, I.
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Nick Wright
I think that's exciting, man. I'm really happy for you. You've been talking about this for a while and so I'm really happy that's finally happening.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. So I guess I am announcing it. And for the record, my employers have both been amazing. They've both said, what do you want? We'll build you a studio. So the thing about Fox Sports. Fox Sports, I don't know, there's an ownership position with the Big Ten, so not to bore people with it, but there's certain things in television called fibers. And because Fox and the Big Ten building and the Fox LA building have similar or share fibers, it's a really easy transition. Oh.
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Nick Wright
So I did, I, I, for the record, so the audience doesn't feel out of the loop. I, I have no idea what these fibers are.
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Colin Cowherd
So.
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Nick Wright
I didn't know what you just said. I didn't know. The audience didn't know. I didn't know. But, you know, I did figure when you were first bringing this up, I didn't know exactly how you're going to pull it off, but I assumed Chicago was easier than if you're like, guys, my wife desperately wants to live in St. Louis. Let's figure it out. Like, Chicago's a huge city. The big tens there. Do you think you'll go, you'll go to more college football games being right there?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, I'm already a Bulls and Blackhawk season ticket holder, so I bought season tickets there. I bought a suite at that, at the basketball arena. So I, I go to, you know, so I, I told Anne, if I said we're going to move to Chicago and just to show you my commitment to you and the city, we're going to go to stuff a lot. So every time we go, I mean, every other night we go to an event, we go to a place downtown, we'll go watch music, do whatever we do. So. And I, I got to tell you something. You know how you said you've discovered that you love Broadway and Broadway is amazing?
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Nick Wright
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
I have found that. I like, I love going to Europe. I made a promise to my wife. I said the next 20 years, we're going to go minimum once a year. I love that. And I got to be honest with you, Nick. You know what I really love? I like going out at night. I never thought I was go out at night guy. If I could go out every single night, every goddamn night, I would.
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Nick Wright
I, that's remarkable. All right, so I wouldn't have thought that either because I I am my, I'm not as much the club guy as I used to be, but I'm not talking clubs. I know you're not. I'm talking about me. But the. Yeah, I, you, my. I, I met my wife. She was a club promoter is how we met. And so she and I used to go out all the time to clubs. Now we're more the very late dinners. Like last night we had a night. It was a Tuesday, whatever last night was. We had a 9 o'clock dinner reservation, some Italian place in New York. So I totally get that. So here's an added benefit. Whether you think about it or not. Even though your show's on at the same time, for you, it's two hours later.
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Colin Cowherd
That's right.
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Nick Wright
You know what I mean? So you can, you will be able to, you know, stay up later and you know, do more stuff. So here's the deal. Post super bowl, this is what I am. I am foisting on you, but also committing to you. My wife and I will come to Chicago and we will all hang out.
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Colin Cowherd
We will.
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Nick Wright
That's an easy flight. I want, I want to see the house. So Danielle and I, post super bowl sometime, once you guys are settled, we'll come spend a weekend in Chicago.
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Colin Cowherd
You will? Chicago is such. You know, I've lived in two cities in the country that get a bad rap and are both pretty amazing. Los Angeles is really full of unbelievable people. And secondly, Chicago, Chicago is such a cool town. The architecture, the people, I still don't think they've totally recovered from COVID I think Michigan Avenue feels a little less active than it was, but I don't know it well enough to have big, strong opinions. I don't know how New York feels. I think Covid beat up some Midwest towns more than others, but I think it's, I think, you know, people, you know, McIntyre is always like, oh, it's cold. I'm like, dude, they're called coats. I, I can't take like, you lived in Houston. I couldn't take that heat. I can take cold. I grew up in Seattle. It's wet and damp.
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Nick Wright
I mean, listen, the, the winter winters in Chicago, weather wise are rough. But there's, there's a trade off to everything. And so I agree with you on that. There, there are certain cities that become just avatars for political points people are trying to make.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes.
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Nick Wright
And so like San Francisco has become one in certain ways. Chicago forever has been one. And because of that it has gotten. Listen, it is, it's one of the just objectively one of America's finest cities. And if you're one of America's finest cities, not to sound all uber patriotic, you're one of the finest cities in the world. And so, and if you're a big, obviously, like, you know, you want to spend more time going to Europe, it's not the biggest difference in the world, but it is a considerably easier flight like Chicago there from la. There is a difference. It's why, like my wife, we spent last year after the super bowl, we went to Tokyo and then went Tokyo south in Japan. And I truly think it was the greatest trip my wife's ever been on. She loved it so much. Just feels almost prohibitive because it's like, man, it's six hours flying and you're still in the US like from New York there, like it is a brutal. And Europe so easy from here. So that's great, man, and I'm glad. I'm honored you got you announced it with me. This is gonna, you know, the trades are gonna have a big field day with this.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, are they?
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Nick Wright
Broadcaster Colin Coward moving to Chicago. And also, by the way, sweet, sweet little kind of flex on the. I already have a suite at the United Center. My goodness gracious.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, that wasn't a. That was my wife. I promised my wife, I said. Because she said, you're never going to leave la. You love la. And I said, no, I have friends. I love, I love my little clubs, I go to my little, my little places with my buddies. My buddy David Slay, who owns restaurants in Manhattan Beach. I love the people and I do think the weather is nice. Although I will tell you, where I live is by the water. It gets cold in LA in the winter a lot. My car was, it was 41 degrees when I pulled out this morning.
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Nick Wright
Yeah, I wouldn't. That's not an argument. You say that and people in Chicago are like, my car literally froze. They're like, nobody wants to hear the 41 degrees. But listen, you're entering it, that's great.
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Colin Cowherd
And I told Ann, I said, I'm going to commit to the city, I'm going to commit to tickets and we're going to go to events and comedy shows. We've seen John Mulaney and Sebastian Manikowsko and we're going to go to anybody that's in town. And I love the people. And you know, it's funny the life I've lived. Not to bore people, but it's a trade off. It would be awesome to live on the Same street for 45 years and literally know my kids would have stories that, you know, they hung out with the Hamiltons across the street. I think that's awesome. I've followed commerce. I've bounced all over the country and there's some advantages and disadvantages to it. But I'm so excited to live in the Midwest to live in a make great city next to cousins. I'm fired up and my son wants to go Northwestern here in a couple years maybe. So that's awesome.
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Nick Wright
Well, congratulations. You deserve it and it's fantastic. I could think of no better way to go ahead.
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Colin Cowherd
You're. You're a Kansas City kid. You've lived in New York. It's been an amazing experience.
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Nick Wright
Oh yeah. And no, I've lived. I've lived Kansas City, Houston, Los Angeles, New York. I've lived, you know, geographically. Never sec and never Pacific Northwest. But everywhere else I feel like I kind of have a feel for. Yeah, I think it's one of the cool parts about the job is being able to have lived different places. I ima. I think and then I know we have to go. I think the next place all live is Vegas. I think that the. Because my wife wants to open a store in Vegas and I obviously have, you know, a lot of connections to poker and stuff and so I. Yeah, the. I think that I'll do. You know my youngest is in sixth grade and so I'll, you know I plan to be in New York for the bulk of if not the entirety of my 40s. But if I were to leave New York, I think Vegas is where I is the place I think I would go next.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, I lived there for seven years. I lived there when there was still mobsters. Remnants of mobsters. It's a very corporate town. It's an. It's an incredible food city in credible.
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Nick Wright
And it's even gotten better. Yeah. All the restaurants are there now because of the casinos.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Nick Wright, Good seeing you buddy. I love having you on as always. And this is going to become a more regular thing.
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Nick Wright
Absolutely. Congrats man. Talk to you soon. See you come.
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Colin Cowherd
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