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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Colin Cowherd Podcast Prime Cuts - Chiefs Back To Form? Jaxson Dart’s Big Win For The G-Men, Bo Nix Can Sling It, Is Bama Back?
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John Middlekauff
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Tyler
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Dan
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Colin Cowherd
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Buddy
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Colin Cowherd
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Tiffany Aliche
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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John Middlekauff
Definitely. I mean the Steelers have been over the years and now Kansas City, it's undebatable. I also think this. And listen, he's a fantastic player, he's an incredible talent. But these last two weeks he's led a pretty. You talk a lot about privileged lives at quarterback on offense like the real sport starts when your tight end shatters his leg. Your right guard gets a dui, he gets suspended and then a wide receiver goes down in the first series of the game. It's like, then what do you do?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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John Middlekauff
And we've seen Mahomes now for two years. But I'd say also look at Josh Allen. His defense has been average at best over the years. Lamar, I would imagine his worst defense was last year and by the end of the year it was really good. Two years ago they had the number one defense in the league most of his career because of the team he got drafted by. Right. It's basically like defense you in football, the Baltimore Ravens. Well, what's going on right now? Bunch of injuries. Their two best defensive linemen. Van always kind of a hybrid gone Roquan Gets hurt today. I mean, their defense is just a shell of itself. It's like, okay, and listen, the Ravens, how many times did they win games? I bet if we looked over the last three or four years, like 45, 13.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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John Middlekauff
So they roll you when they get up, but it's like, okay, you got to have to win this game. The Lions are used to that. 35, 32, let's go. The Ravens. You know, that's just. He doesn't have to do that a lot over the years, and all of a sudden he's looking. It's like you're back on the field. You know, they just scored another point. It's just, it's a different. They don't feel like the purple team we're used to watching because defensively, and that has to throw him off and it puts more pressure on him. And they've kind of cracked, I would say, the last couple of weeks.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, yeah, you had two first half turnovers. I mean, they got themselves into a hole. And I. Let me throw this at you. I've always said the reason he dominates the NFC and he. His number, it's like 25 and debatable.
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John Middlekauff
Yeah.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, they don't see him. Spags has now seen him seven times. So. And my take on Lamar, remember the first year he started playing, he. I think he beat the Chargers the first time he played him that first rookie year. Then in the second time he played the Chargers in the playoffs, if I recall, they had a little bit better beat on him. And I'm. It's. It's all fuzzy to me, but I was told very early on you do get a little bit of a beat on him. He's just so dynamic. You can't get your arms around him. Well, Spags has seen him now so many times. It's a very good and very healthy and a fast defense. And then all of a sudden you jump out to a lead. And I mean, I think some of this is not that there's a secret sauce. But Spags is great. His defense is great. And they kind of mostly contained him tonight.
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John Middlekauff
Well, because the last two weeks, you know, Dan Campbell set the blueprint and you went, well, you know, Spags, who already had a blueprint, is going to utilize that throughout the week of basically corralling him. Now, again, he might juke you out and make a move every once in a while, but if you don't just run up aimlessly and let him just get an easy 10 yards with his eyes closed, it's harder for him to operate and remember for a long time. You know, Dax team now stinks. But it was like when he didn't. When he got to pass the ball less than. They ran it, he was really, really effective. Lamar had that stat going forever. When the Ravens have more rushing attempts than pass attempts, they're going to be really dangerous. Why is that? They're up in the second half, handing the ball off, and they just kind of roll you. They lean on you. Well, today, 17 rush attempts, 20 pass attempts. Like, that is not their formula, the way they're playing. And obviously, you know, the turnovers, I mean, when he's turning the ball over now we have. And he's. He's not the only culprit. Derek Henry's been a major problem for him this year. They're out of sync and they. They have these injuries. Like, you know, the Chiefs, you could tell, it's like, okay, they beat the Giants, they win this game, they get right back into the mix. I'm sure we'll talk about the Chargers. They got a million injuries right now. Like, it's. It's open again for the Chiefs. You look at the Ravens and you go, could this kind of be their year from hell? Like the 49ers last year, where you just lose a million players and all of a sudden you're seven and ten.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. And. And to your point, I. I joke with J. Mac all week. I'm like, it doesn't. People don't understand. It's not like Xavier Worthy's a 1, but when you don't have a 1, 2, or a 3, he's a damn good. He had a ton of targets, nice catches, a couple of. Man, he was wide open on a couple of them. So to me, when you watch Xavier Worthy, they still don't have a run game. Pacheco Hunt, that's not going to work. Big picture. But not every team that gets to the playoffs is Philadelphia. Not everybody's a great run team. What the run team does, it picks up first downs and it helps your defense. So I think they're going to have to establish that. But when I watched them today with Thornton, JuJu Smith, Xavier Worthy, my take was, and I'm not sure if yours was, well, if they get Rasheed Rice back, okay, now Thornton, now worthy, now Rice, JuJu Smith, Travis Kelsey, okay, that's more than good enough with Patrick Mahomes, if they can just be average running the ball. But Worthy today, it was pretty clear that he has a relationship with Mahomes, and it's it's, it's pretty good.
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John Middlekauff
Well, one thing I wrote down is, you know, Taekwond. Taekwond Thornton was once a second round pick. You know, that was a late second round pick by the Patriots. But he has a touchdown in each of the last three weeks. So you get Worthy back, you get this guy who could fly, get him some confidence, you get Rice back. Hollywood Brown is just a solid contributing member. Like he can get you five, six catches every game. Juju can just do some dirty work over the middle of the field. Their passing game looks a little bit better. Big picture, this is why they win today. They're two and two. You look at the rest of you know, the afc, some of the injuries, their own in their own division, the Chargers, I mean you just, you can't just start overcoming missing elite players. Especially at the offensive line. You go, God, I like their offense. Now again, we talked about this last week with the Bears. I just said let's pump the brakes on the, you know, against the Cowboys defense. He signed a day. I was like, the Bears offense is going to be up and down. And I will say the same thing with this Chiefs against this Baltimore defense which is have major issues but they also have one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time and one of the greatest coaches of all time and coaches the offense.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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John Middlekauff
So I would be bullish on the unit moving forward for sure from an explosive standpoint. And you add worthy to go with Thornton speed, you can just stretch the field and those possession receivers and Brown and Juju and even Travis who clearly gets up for bigger games clearly can add and you just keep him healthy toward, you know, a playoff game.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I mean everybody's got a hole outside of Philadelphia. So their defense is good. They have the best head coach coordinator combo in the league. Once they get Rice back more than adequate, probably above average receiving core, superstar head coach, quarterback. I thought the O line was good. I, Andy Reid has rebuilt it three times since, since Mahomes arrived. Like they've been patchworking it. You know, they lose Tuney, it's going to take a while. They don't have a great run game. I'm not even sure how serviceable it will be. But as I watch them today, I'm like, okay, they're a, they're a game back of the Chargers and the Chargers now. I mean I don't know what's happening with Joe Alt, but you're, you're not winning a division if you don't have Joe Alt or Rashawn. Slater. Not even Harbaugh can pull that rabbit out. So, I mean, I looked at him today and maybe I'm overly optimistic, but I said it all week. I said worthy will get 10 targets, six, seven catches, and. And then Travis Kelsey and it's just like anything else. When you've been in any industry 15 years, you and I, you know, our Sunday pod feels different than one in May.
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Buddy
Right?
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Colin Cowherd
Like, it's like Travis Kelsey's been around multiple surgeries. I watch him in these spots and I'm like, okay, it's different. He's fine. I don't know. I came out of it. And again, the injuries are part of it. But I, and I have defended Lamar forever, but he had two turnovers. It's pretty clear there's an anxiety that he. I don't know if it's a therapy thing. He just say what you want about Josh Allen. He's been highly effective against Belichick. Against the Chiefs, Josh Allen loses. It's usually on the defense. I think it's totally in Lamar's head.
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John Middlekauff
Well, I mean, if you gave the Chiefs, Andy and Spags the opportunity, who would you rather play at quarterback? They wouldn't even hesitate and say, lamar, the data's in check. Josh's data versus them in the regular season and in the playoffs, he has been excellent against Kansas City. But yeah, I mean, I think Kansas City has to be. I thought the whole time, I know his numbers haven't looked good, but watching Patrick Mahomes last week in the second half, early in the season, a couple in couple of the losses, the one against Philadelphia, I think he's played really well.
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Colin Cowherd
Same here.
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John Middlekauff
He's just completely under control. I bet if you went to, you sitting in Andy's office tomorrow, he's like, I was not worried at all over the losses with Howard quarterback. I felt good. I thought it was on the other guys, you know, So I actually think, you know, Patrick has been a little up and down in previous years. Remember, he had awful interception streaks.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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John Middlekauff
I think for the most part, he's. He's been playing at a really, really high level. His numbers just don't look like 50 touchdowns anymore. But I go, that's one of the best players in the league.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. The numbers don't reflect his quality of play. I thought he had two throws today and a scramble. The one where he ran over the line and came back didn't count, but it was like, it was really a clever play to set up time. I also thought he had a sidearm to throw to JuJu Smith, Schuster. It was so quick and so fast with such velocity. And I'm like, nobody else can do that. Stafford does it. It doesn't look like that. So I'm with you. I think Kansas City now is again a top six team and maybe five. The Giants beat the Chargers 21 18. So Malik neighbors could be out for the year. But the story, which I thought was pretty substantial, if you look at the numbers and you didn't watch the game, you wouldn't be impressed with Jackson Dart. But the Giants, between Dart and Scatterboo, rushed for over 160 yards. He had seven rushes. They were excellent on third down. I thought Jackson Dart was pretty damn good. Neighbors hurt early, so you don't have that. He had 10 scrambles for 55 yards. I thought he was clever, kind of worked between the tackles. We know he has a decent arm. I don't know. I. Again, the Chargers had. Herbert was hit 14 times. So this is like a problem. Last week he was hit 14 times. But I thought Jackson Dart, I mean, I'm watching all these college quarterbacks. Dante Moore looks like a great quarterback. C.J. carr at Notre Dame, the rest of them, I would sell some stock. I thought Jackson Dart looked pretty good.
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John Middlekauff
Yeah, he definitely gave him an energy to start the game. I mean, they get up seven, nothing. He has that, you know, the quarterback draw. Made some throws obviously throughout the game. He keeps plays alive with his legs. Yes, that Russell no longer was doing. There's also. There was also like a. A youthful, I don't know, craziness to him. I mean, he's trying to run guys over. He had the one play that got called back on the hold where he's. He got to be. I mean, he could have broke his hand. He could have broke his finger. It's his throwing hand. But he. I think he's so amped up. He's playing like he would be against Mississippi State or Tennessee. It's like you got to be a little more careful in the NFL, especially against this team. But he definitely, I mean, you scatter boo. The moment he's gotten in the games the last couple of weeks, you can feel his energy and his physicality. He just adds something. Right. He is looking to hit someone hard and I think the team feeds off it. And today, you know, their passing game now with Neighbors, I would assume his knees done. The passing game is going to be a struggle. The numbers are not going to look pretty good or good at all. But definitely dark gives them something that Russell no longer does. So I also think when you look at the Chargers, they're the defensive line for the, for the, for the Giants is excellent. I mean, Burns is a fantastic player. Dexter Lawrence, monster cave on is even better. I think that he's played earlier in his career and obviously they just, they fly around. So you start losing. The Chargers have a domino effect problem because alt is there because the left tackle's down. He's supposed to play right tackle. So the backup right tackle is at right tackle. Well, then he goes down back to, you know, you start shuffling. All of a sudden you got backups and third stringers in different spots against. I mean, I don't know how much they make combined. But the Giants defense, they're paying a lot of money.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes.
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John Middlekauff
And they've invested a lot of resources. So he is. I thought Herbert made some throws today where it looked like he was going to lose knees and limbs. He's just getting cut off, he's getting destroyed. That's not as sustainable. Now I like the Giants today because I went well, you go 13 and four East coast game, early morning. The juice of the new quarterback. So I thought they were going to lose or at least this game was going to be close. But then now when you look big picture, you go alt. High ankle sprain for a big guy that could be a month. So it's like you got problems, you know, and it feels like Herbert's going to have to be running for his life. He can do that. Yeah, but man, I don't feel as good as I did about them a week ago.
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Colin Cowherd
Now Hampton, Omario Hampton had a couple of big runs, made some runs. He looked, I, it was funny. I wrote this down. He had a 54 yard touchdown run. And I wrote, okay, he's worth the number one pick. They need a horse. Najee Harris is done for the year. So I thought a Mario Hampton like Ashton Genty who will get to in a minute. Ashton looked the part today. He had a very good day, his best day as a pro. I thought Hampton had his best day. And again The Chargers had 340 yards. The Giants only had 250.
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John Middlekauff
So they're, they're passing game this year. To me that one, Greg Romans is calling passes nonstop. Two because you know Keenan Allen ads with McConkey and then Johnston, the TCU kid is been fantastic this year relative to the bar.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, Pittsburgh, I thought it was one of the shocking performances of the day, but in hindsight it's sort of explainable. Pittsburgh 24, Minnesota 21 started for me 8:30 in the morning. I thought it was my favorite bet of the week. But then all of a sudden they had three backup offensive linemen and the Steelers. I felt Kevin o' Connell came into the game of the game plan and so did Brian Flores and they didn't adjust. But I think Kevin o' Connell couldn't adjust. Listen, I. Aaron played the best game I think Aaron's played in a couple years. I really did. He and DK Metcalf have a clear connection. I thought the Steelers offensive line today, John, the Steelers have not developed a consistent run game in six years. I thought they ran the ball today effectively. I don't know. I looked at Pittsburgh and I'm like, Jesus, this is the best Steeler performance. And again, they were missing three linemen. The Vikings were a mess on the O line, but we can't make excuses. Baltimore's defense, you got to make plays. I thought Pittsburgh, that was a great performance by them.
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John Middlekauff
If you would have told me at the beginning of the day, and I know some of this was a little bit garbage time, but wentz through for 350 yards, I'd be like, I would have bet a lot more money on the Vikings. You know, I'm with you. I, I thought for the first time in four games a little bit last week, but they look like a physical team start to finish.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes.
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John Middlekauff
You know, they Gainwell ran for 99 yards. If you just gave the Steelers every week 100 yard rusher, they're going to have a chance because, you know, the days of Aaron throwing for 375 yards are done.
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Colin Cowherd
They're done.
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John Middlekauff
But what he can do is a little bit like today, 20, 24, 220 yards. And part of giving DK a lot of money, which was pretty risky, is every once in a while he's going to take it 80 yards and cut across the field and run by everybody. So over the course of the season, DK gives you 10 touchdowns. And three or four of them are like that today.
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Colin Cowherd
Yes, they usually are.
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John Middlekauff
That's a huge but. But you got to play good defense. They had six sacks. They were all over Wentz and you know, they were hitting really hard. Now, they did lose Ramsey at the end of the game, but to me there was a physicality to their team start to finish that had kind of been lacking. And I do wonder, you know, if Tomlinson, I mean, part of him is that, rah, rah, let's. What is going on here? And I think the defense kind of been getting Called out.
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Colin Cowherd
Yep.
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John Middlekauff
And came to play today. And, and I would say the same thing for their offensive line because part of the reason every single human alive love Minnesota, it's like, well, Flores against.
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Colin Cowherd
This offense, Steelers, they were leaning on him. And run game has been a six year disappointment. I mean, I'm watching today and I'm like, I this now again, have I watched every Steeler drive in every Steeler game, but over the last six years, I honestly felt watching that game, that was the most hopeful Steeler win. I'm like, well, that team looks like totally.
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John Middlekauff
I agree.
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Colin Cowherd
They could go on the road and win the playoff game like I was. I mean, so much of this league in a passing league is can you consistently run the ball first? Like, first, you don't want your quarterback throwing 40 times, especially an old quarterback. Secondly, it keeps your defense off the field. And I think Pittsburgh's defense, you have some older players. J.J. watt was great today, but you, you have some older players and new players. So you don't want your, you don't want your guys on the field for 66 plays. I, I mean I wrote down four or five different times. Wow, impressed Steeler. O line, dot, dot, dot. Really great today. Yeah. I mean at one point the game was 21 to 6.
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John Middlekauff
Yeah, to me they were creating turnovers. They had a bunch of sacks. I can't imagine. And listen, I know The Vikings won 100 or nothing last week against Jake Browning and the Bengals, but every single person with the Steelers said we're not flying to Dublin, Ireland to lose to Carson Wentz. Like that is not happening on our watch. Hell, I woke up, the game started at 6:30 for me and it was 14 to 3 and DK just had that play. And then you just watched the rest of the game and again it was, they got some late touchdowns. You know, Rogers is screaming to go forward at the end. They get denied at like the one yard line right when he wanted to basically ice the game. And a couple plays later they score. So all of a sudden I think it was like 24 to 14 and then all of a sudden it's 24, 21 and they still got a couple a minute or two before the two minute warning, you're like, whoa. And I think, you know, Rogers, I think is trying to make the Tomlin a little unconservative. I think their nature would never have been to do that. But he kind of got to overrule him there and which I didn't mind. They had to go 99 yards with Carson Wentz. And then all of a sudden they, I think they like blew a coverage to Jordan Addison. They got lucky that he didn't score. Yeah, you know, the guy made a great play to kind of beeline him down at the end. But I'm with you. Beside a couple free plays, the Steelers not only leaned on Minnesota, who I think we all agree, pretty tough, physical team. It's not like they are soft by any means. Especially you could look. They kept showing Flores. Flores had to look like, what is going on? And listen, sometimes you fly across these international game, what Minnesota is playing back to back international games in two different countries. You know, that could really throw you off. And I heard you talking about it last week on tv. Like you draft this guy really high. He misses all season last year and now he's out for six or seven games on an ankle. Like let's, let's call it what it is. Sam Darnold's leading game winning drives. Kind of a disastrous situation. You'd be like, well, John, it's early. We've talked a lot about. You don't get much time anymore.
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Colin Cowherd
Nope.
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John Middlekauff
Like, and you just let a quarterback go. It's. It's a problem. And Carson Wentz is actually more impressive than I thought. I mean, it's. That guy was just on his couch. He's actually pretty. Got some talent in his body still. But like, you drafted this guy in the top 15 to be your quarterback of a 14 win team and he's just sitting there eating sunflower seeds like it's kind of a big problem.
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Colin Cowherd
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Tiffany Aliche
Hey sis, what if I could promise you you never had to listen to a condescending finance bro tell you how to manage your money again? Welcome to Brown Ambition. This is the hard part when you pay down those credit cards. If you haven't gotten to the bottom of why you were racking up credit or turning to credit cards, you may just recreate the same problem. A year from now, when you do feel like you are bleeding from these high interest rates. I would start shopping for a debt consolidation loan starting with your local credit union. Shopping around online looking for some online lenders because they to have fewer fees and be more affordable. Listen, I am not here to judge. It is so expensive in these streets. I 100% can see how in just a few months you can have this much credit card debt and it weighs on you. It's really easy to just like stick your head in the sand. It's nice and dark in the sand. Even if it's scary, it's not going to go away just because you're avoiding it. And in fact, it may get even worse. For more judgment free money advice, listen to Brown Ambition on the I Heart Rate radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [27:49]
Betrayal Weekly Host
Betrayal Weekly is back for season two with brand new stories. The detective comes driving up fast and just like screeches right in the parking lot. I swear I'm not crazy, but I.
- [28:01]
Colin Cowherd
Think he poisoned me.
- [28:03]
Betrayal Weekly Host
I feel trapped. My breathing changes.
- [28:05]
Colin Cowherd
More money, more money, more money.
- [28:08]
Nicole Garcia
And I went white.
- [28:11]
Tiffany Aliche
I realized, wow, like, he is not a mentor. He's pretty much a monster.
- [28:16]
Betrayal Weekly Host
New stories, new voices, and shocking manipulations. This didn't just happen to me. It happened to hundreds of other people. But these aren't just stories of destruction. They're stories of survival, of people picking up the pieces and daring to tell the truth.
- [28:35]
Nicole Garcia
I'm going to tell my story and I'm going to hold my head up.
- [28:41]
Betrayal Weekly Host
Listen to Betrayal Weekly on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [28:54]
Colin Cowherd
First of all, you know I'm a huge fan of Sean Payton and Bo Nix, the combination. But I mean, tonight, 283 over Cincinnati. There's a couple of minutes left when I'm doing this. I just think when you watch Bo Nix play with Sean Payton, Bo Nix does so many little things well that nobody pays attention to. Have you noticed when you watch Bo Nix tonight, when his receivers or his backs are out in the flat, that ball a hundred for 100 times is right out in front. They catch it moving forward. It is accurate. It is on a line. It's not a loopy pass where they have to wait for it. That's NFL quarterback play. That's Tom Brady. The ability to get the ball out quickly. The receiver has the ball running. And I mean, between Mims and Franklin and Harvey and Cortland Sutton, they just have a lot of guys who can run and catch. And Bo Nix is athletic and he Had a bad pick tonight, but, you know, people forget this. Go look at this, go look at Drew Brees, second year with Sean Payton. His interceptions went up. Sean Payton puts a ton on his quarterbacks that, that tonight they had motion on 35% of their plays. There is no hand holding, there is no babysitting. You gotta be smart, you gotta be focused. If you, if you're, if it's important for you to be cool, if it's important for you to look this way or that way, it's not gonna work. This is an adult offense for a smart, intense, laser focused quarterback. Drew Brees is intense. He still is. Bo Nix. You don't see a lot of smiles during the game. It's all business. And that's what Sean Payton's offense demands. I really like what they've done, he and the gm, I like what they've done with the offense. You know, J.K. dobbins was a late AD. JK's excellent. Troy Aikman talked about it tonight when JK is healthy and you know, there's guys in this league that can't make it through a 17 schedule. But J.K. dobbins is an excellent running back. He's got great instincts, really nice vision. His instincts. I always feel J.K. dobbins is one of those running backs that's looking like 8 to 10 yards ahead. He sets everything up really well. But I really like watching Denver play the Colts game, you know, on that final kick penalty, they should have won that game. I think the roster is one of the four or five best rosters in the league. And I think it goes. It may not be Philadelphia, but I think it's in the Detroit, Kansas City, Buffalo, Green Bay class. I think it's that good. The pass rush doesn't feel quite as dominant. Now, Cincinnati, you know, bad offensive line. The Colts shut down the Broncos pass rush, but that's a really good Colts offensive line. I think the Colts are going to win that division. I think they may want it going away. It's no shame in losing to Indianapolis. That's a good team. But I like everything they do. I just think Sean Payton, you know, you know what I find a lot of times and the media does this a lot. Fans do it all the time. But I don't hold the fans to a high standard. I hold the media to a higher standard. A lot of times the media, it's really pervasive. If they don't like a guy, then they'll criticize him. That they let their bias get in the way Sean Payton is better than 99% of the coaches in this league. And he's got a great eye for personnel and a lot of coaches don't. Andy Reid doesn't want to do personnel. Jimmy Johnson was legendary at it. Sean Payton's great with personnel. Jim Harbaugh's very, very good with personnel. Sean's excellent. I mean, look at these skill guys. They don't miss on these guys. Franklin. Troy Franklin out of Oregon, Bo Nix's teammate. Feels like a number three to me. There were four drop passes tonight. He had one of them. But Bo Nick still went 29 of 42 for 326 yards. So in that last touchdown out in the flat, they just are always prepared. And again, Bonix throws the ball down the field. It's not Justin Fields, dink and dunk, you know, it's a big boy offense. They're throwing that ball down the field aggressively and you get some interceptions. Elway threw him, Neymar threw him. Brady threw him. Peyton Manning threw him. Josh Allen threw him. I like my quarterbacks throwing the ball aggressively down the field. And I think Bo Nix is not only a better athlete athlete than his draft preview. I think he, I think he's got a better arm. I, I thought he had kind of a Derek Carr arm in college. I think it's gotten stronger. But I just like his temperament. There's just no bullshit with Bonix. He is just laser focused. He can take to coaching. He'll bark right back. It's all ball, all the time. So I like Denver a lot. I think they cleaned up some things tonight. Cincinnati's a mess. But again, if Joe Burrow played, they'd be a borderline playoff team, but not a great team. Zach Taylor's fine. I don't think he's necessarily special. I think he's fine as a coach. I think the owner is the cheapest in the league. I think the front office is mediocre. They don't have a big scouting department. I feel like Denver's got now, I think the richest owner in the sport, first or second. They're totally committed to Sean Payton in the front office and the roster. So I think Denver is on a short list of teams. I don't know, I look at their personnel. I think if you look at their schedule now, you look at their schedule, they got a lot of W's coming. And I talked about this last week. Sean Payton's record in September in his career is 30 and 30. Now think about that. Think how good Sean Payton all the success he's had. His worst month, easily, easily October on. He wins like 75% of his games is September. Why he comes in, massive playbook, lot of motion, a lot of sets, and he is demanding on his quarterbacks. And what did you get in the first couple of weeks? Mistakes, penalties, they just, they just quite didn't have it all buttoned up. Love what I see from Denver. Just love it. I mean, J.K. dobbins and Harvey Cortland Sutton, who. I think Cortland Sutton's really good. I think he's a number one God. Franklin, Mims and Bonex, great athlete. So a nice win for Denver, a team I really, really like. And you know, Sean Payton can be kurt and glib for some people, but, you know, I mean, that's, that's the reality. Some people are smart and they've got strong opinions, you know, people. I found in my career, people love strong opinions only when they agree with them. And Sean Payton called out Nathaniel Hackett. He was right. And he called out Russell Wilson. He was right. He called out the previous regime. He was right. He was right across the board. You just don't have, you don't have to like how it sounds, but you can't watch that offense and not see the play design, the play calling. Bo Nicks is a hit. He just, that kid just fires. You know him from the Josh Pate college football show. He's great. Comes on the Herd volume as many times as we can get him on. We're going to. I don't know if you've been on the Herd yet. We'll get you on, I promise. So I defended James Franklin for years. I was like, listen, he's losing to Ohio State and Michigan. You know, he's losing to the right people. I thought, you're a favorite. You've got a lot of high end first round draft guys. You got to win that game. But it was funny because I, you know, I was watching. I don't go online very much, especially to like fan boards, but I did, I went to Penn State fan boards just to see their reaction. And yeah, we want him out of here. He's a bum. And my take is James Franklin is kind of what I think most college football coaches are. There's Kirby, there's Pete Carroll, there's Nick Saban, there's Urban Meyer. I think Chris Peterson's one of those. There's Dabo. There's like, in any industry, there's like 1%. And then there's a bunch of guys that are Almost as good, but may not recruit as well or they're not schematically as good. And I think James Franklin's in that. And I think if you gave James Franklin, Dante Moore and Dan Lanning Drew Aller, they would have won the game. So I still think Franklin is a top of the class, not a top six, but somewhere seven to 15 in a sport with 140, you know, FBS schools. Or have you lost faith in him after a game in which you're a favorite at home? Probably the better backfield. An NFL quarterback prospect. Where do you land on him today?
- [38:01]
Buddy
I don't think any differently of him, but I treated the Oregon game way, way bigger than I've ever treated a football game. And so I got to tell you, a little backstory. You and I have apparently been singing out of the same hymnal as memaw would say about James Franklin, because he is very, very good. Never use the word elite. Never use the word great. Just very, very good. An eighth runger, what we would call him an eighth runger on a 10 rung ladder. So I, I remember even in the spring, I've been up there a couple of times over the past few months. They never shied away from this concept that this year we're all in. Kind of what Ohio State sounded like last year when I visited them this spring. We're all in. We're making no excuses or apologies about it. We're all in. All right. So every, every external dynamic edge imaginable you have on that Oregon game. They got to travel cross country. You got the buy, you got the experience roster. They got newness everywhere you should. You got a way more experienced and veteran coaching staff. So all of that wide out, you finally got it in prime time. I just felt like it was such a referendum moment. It's such an inflection point in time in the James Franklin, Penn State era. And I know coming out of it, if you really want to just, you know, shred the arguments, you could say it's just one game. It's just one conference game. They went to overtime. It's so much more than that. Anyone pretending otherwise is just ignorant of Penn State football and ignorant of the situation. So I think a whole new timeline started the other night. I said this on the following night show. It may sound hyperbolic, but I'm dead serious about it. I think a whole new timeline got started. Now, here's what we cannot know yet. We can't know which flavor of timeline it is because you could sell me on either of these things being the case in 2029. And I could believe you. You could sell me number one. Franklin's no longer at Penn State because that Oregon game precipitated this really ugly slip down this slope where eventually neither wanted anything to do with the other. Maybe they just cut ties. Maybe it got really contentious. But he's not there in a couple of years. I could see that. I could also see him believing everything that I'm saying and you're saying about that game. That was the referendum game. This is where it's going to be the ultimate test of my way of doing things, the way I've built Penn State. And I think it was such a reminder that your best, given your current modus operandi, is not going to be good enough.
- [40:19]
John Middlekauff
All right.
- [40:19]
Buddy
That's the absolute peak of this version of you, of Penn State football. And it got taken down by probably Oregon, not even close to ascending to what they will become. So I could see him driving home that night. I could see him waking up the next morning just. It's just you and you in the bathroom mirror and saying to yourself, this is it. Several degrees of change are needed here, here, there, just rigid principles you've never bent on, you're willing to bend on. Now there's a third rail where he doesn't know to do any of that, and it just is what it is. I don't know where we're going with it, but I sense the same thing you did. Even the portion of the fan base, like, I've got some Penn State folks on my staff who were the last holdouts, who always sort of shouted down the radical portion of the fan base when they would criticize him, fire James Franklin after a loss. And they, they didn't get overly emotional, which is what I noticed. They were almost. I don't know, they were apathetic afterwards. And it was kind of a shrug. And, well, we know he's never going to be bad enough to fire, but we were also resigned to the fact that this is confirmation we're never going to see the mountaintop. If you're a smoker or dipper ready to make a change, you really only need one good reason. But with Zyn nicotine pouches, you'll discover many good reasons. Zynn is America's number one nicotine pouch brand. Plus Zyn offers a robust rewards program. There are lots of options when it comes to nicotine satisfaction, but there's only one Zyn. Check out zyn.com find to find Zinn at a Store near you. Warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical.
- [42:03]
Dan
I'm Dan, he's Ty.
- [42:04]
John Middlekauff
Hello.
- [42:05]
Dan
And we're the Solid Verbal College Football Podcast.
- [42:09]
Tyler
College football season is here and you know what that means.
- [42:15]
Dan
Your team is going to break your heart three times probably before Halloween.
- [42:19]
Colin Cowherd
Uh huh.
- [42:20]
Tyler
But fear not, the Solid Verbal will be right there with you through every soul crushing loss and impossible comeback.
- [42:27]
Dan
Join us all season long, all year long, as we ride the rollercoaster of this ridiculous sport.
- [42:33]
Tyler
Whether you're a diehard fan or a casual observer, we'll help you make sense of all the chaos and of course, celebrate the madness. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college.
- [42:49]
Dan
Footballer in we don't just love college football, Ty, we live it.
- [42:54]
Tyler
Listen to the Solid Verbal College Football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [43:03]
Tiffany Aliche
Hey sis, what if I could promise you you never had to listen to a condescending finance bro tell you how to manage your money again? Welcome to Brown Ambition. This is the hard part when you pay down those credit cards. If you haven't gotten to the bottom of the of why you were racking up credit or turning to credit cards, you may just recreate the same problem. A year from now when you do feel like you are bleeding from these high interest rates, I would start shopping for a debt consolidation loan starting with your local credit union. Shopping around online looking for some online lenders because they tend to have fewer fees and be more affordable. Listen, I am not here to judge. It is so expensive in these streets. I 100% can see how in just a few months you can have this much credit card debt and it weighs on you. It's really easy to just like stick your head in the sand. It's nice and dark in the sand. Even if it's scary, it's not going to go away just because you're avoiding it. And in fact, it may get even worse. For more judgment free money advice, listen to Brown ambition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [44:05]
Betrayal Weekly Host
Betrayal Weekly is back for season two with brand new stories. The detective comes driving up fast and just like screeches right in the parking lot. I swear I'm not crazy, but I.
- [44:17]
Colin Cowherd
Think he poisoned me.
- [44:19]
Betrayal Weekly Host
I feel trapped. My breathing changes.
- [44:22]
Colin Cowherd
More money, more money, more money.
- [44:24]
Nicole Garcia
And I went white.
- [44:27]
Tiffany Aliche
I realized wow, like he is not a mentor. He's pretty Much a monster.
- [44:32]
Betrayal Weekly Host
New stories, new voices, and shocking manipulations. This didn't just happen to me. It happened to hundreds of other people. But these aren't just stories of destruction. They're stories of survival, of people picking up the pieces and daring to tell the truth.
- [44:52]
Colin Cowherd
I'm gonna tell my story, and I'm.
- [44:54]
Nicole Garcia
Gonna hold my head up.
- [44:57]
Betrayal Weekly Host
Listen to Betrayal Weekly on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [45:11]
Colin Cowherd
When Kaylan DeBoer got hired, Greg Byrne, text me after a tweet I sent kind of to thank me, I think, a little bit for the perspective I had. Because after Kaelin beat Georgia, I said, you know, the media, myself included, and fans, success is hard, and it doesn't come as fast as we want. And so it's difficult and it gets. People get worked up. And I'm like, Calyn DeBoer was a hard hire. Dan Lanning's from the South, Dabo Sweeney was popular. I mean, they're Lane Kiffin. There were a lot of potential hires post Saban. You could have argued they weren't going to get Sark because Texas money. But you could have gone after Elaine a Dabo. A Dan Lanning. And he didn't. He went and got a Midwest guy that was at Washington, 3,000 miles away. And it's easy to go, oh, he's got a great resume. The south is different. The intensity is different. Some Midwest Western people, like Chip Kelly, one time, I think he was offered Florida. He's like, that's too much. I thought Philadelphia was roughly. It was too much for me. And Jim McElwaine, who I knew from college, is like, yeah, this is different. I'm more West Midwest guy. And. But I don't. People tend to think, Josh, everybody knows that if you're Jim Harbaugh and you go to the Chargers to replace Brandon Staley, you have to change the culture. It's a disaster. But people think it's easy when you go to Alabama and you replace Saban. Well, you don't have to change the culture. Well, yes, you do. You have to be authentic to yourself. You have to be authentic. It doesn't matter what. I replaced Tony Kornizer. He was great. I still didn't do the same show Tony did. Right. I did a different show, so I had to. There were elements of the show you have to change. You have to change certain things. And that's not an talk. It's just. That's the reality is, I think Alabama was a tougher job than you Think the pressure is enormous. They were struggling in the nil to play, to go to the top rung with some Ohio states and Georgias. And when they won that game, I found myself rooting for Alabama in that first half. I was like, God, this is good coaching. Jesus. This is good play calling. This is as big a regular season win, including Saban in like five years. I thought it was so significant. And they've beaten Georgia plenty of times. Did you feel. It felt more like that. A more of a. Beyond just a win at Georgia. It felt like, okay, this is the moment.
- [47:34]
Buddy
I think it's one of the biggest games for the program this decade. That goes back to what. Saban was still there.
- [47:39]
Colin Cowherd
Yes.
- [47:40]
Buddy
I could not. You cannot overstate the impact. I mean, think about where we are. We were talking about inflection point with James Franklin. Okay, different standard at Alabama. They've won their championships, but it was under the previous guy, new guy, you don't know really. And go into the alternate universe where they lose that game and they're coming out of Athens already a two loss team and you still got the rest of your conference schedule to go. You probably have four minimum losses staring you in the face. And what do you do? You mentioned Greg Byrne, buddy. The only the. I wish you could have seen his face walking off that field Saturday night. Greg Byrne was the most relieved person in the entire building. That's the athletic director at Alabama for those unfamiliar like, because. Because he. His reputation's on the line with this hire as well. And the thing is, Greg Burns never doubted for a second that Caitlin DeBoer is made of the right stuff. But you don't play 162 college football games. So it just comes down to these moments like these, these key third downs and. And you know, a sequence here and there that's going to determine whether you're a success or a failure that season. I got to tell you about DeBoer. When he got there, I used the word ignorant. Ignorant is not lack of intelligence. Ignorance is sometimes you haven't experienced something. And I think he was maybe a little bit ignorant to what you're talking about. The true Southern football dynamic. Like, I think he looked at it and I know this because I talked to him about it. I mean, he just talked about winning principles. And he's right. The same stuff wins everywhere. It's just the surroundings, the externals are way different in the south than they are anywhere. Not named Ohio State base.
- [49:16]
Colin Cowherd
That's right. I've said that for years. Ohio State's and SEC team North. That's the only one.
- [49:21]
Buddy
Yeah. So he got thrown into that. And I just. As much as you try and wall yourself off from it, it's really impossible. You cannot wall yourself off from it. So I got to tell you now, people who have observed him from the outside may not see this. If you've been around Kalin or even if you're just like a fan of the program, you follow him closer. He, since that Florida State game earlier this year has been like the third verse of Lose yourself. The part where it's just, it's no more games. I've been cut. I'm bleeding all over the place. But I kind of get it now. I kind of understand, like, you get thrown into the pot and it starts to boil and it either consumes you or you adjust and then you thrive in that environment. That's what I wondered about him because I knew this time was coming. It doesn't. Saban didn't avoid it at Alabama, and he may be the greatest of all time. Urban didn't avoid it at Florida. No one avoids it. It's. Do you adapt to it and thrive in it? Because that's the 1 or 2% that are cut out to coach in the SEC in major college football. And I'm telling you, it's like putting new keys in the ignition. And it's kind of turned in him. And there's a lot of what we would call DGAFness, DGAFness that he kind of has about himself that is very indicative of someone who is now adjusted and who has acclimated to their surroundings and basically looked back and said, all right, game on. If this is how it works down here, game on. You mentioned the coaching job they did the other night, Buddy. That's an NFL coaching staff on that offensive side of the ball they got. I mean, Ryan Grubb literally came there when it didn't work out in Seattle, but they worked Georgia's defensive staff pretty thoroughly. And think about the sentence that just came out of my mouth, because you don't really say that about anyone. And so now their reward is they get to play Vandy this week. And what stood out to me the most, and I can't believe this is a sentence coming out of my mouth either, to just give you an idea of how that program's wired right now, they're walking off the field in Athens, huge win and. And they're no more headed into the locker room than half the locker rooms talking about the Vandy game. Half of Them are in the locker room. They're in Sanford Stadium. They're already looking ahead to the Vandy game because that was, that was the cattle prod to their neck last year that they never fully recovered from. So as much as the public circle at Georgia game, they were already well aware before they left the building of what's next week, Diego Pavia coming in there next week, their super bowl last year. All right, they come into our building. College game day is going to be there. So it was an eye opener to me because I hadn't, I hadn't been to a Bama game this year in person, so I hadn't been around them in person. Yeah, I think that FSU game did something to him, and it may end up being the biggest blessing they could ever suffer from, if that makes any sense.
- [52:07]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, when I worked in Tampa for two years, I really learned because I love college football. But I'd grown up around Oregon. Washington was a great program. And I. Kevin O' Connell was a photographer. He's still employee at WTVT. I think it is channel 13. And we went to do a story on like Tuesday or Wednesday. Spurrier was the coach of Florida. And we went down there and there were already fans parked in the parking lot, tailgating. It was Wednesday. And I'm like, I go to Husky games, like Friday night, maybe late Friday afternoon, you'd show up to Husky Stadium. They were there Wednesday and they'd been there. I mean, they had the, they had their, you know, their cooking utensils out. They were sitting in the chairs playing, you know, poker. And I'm like, wow, this is different. And then the funny thing is, I remember listening to Southern smaller market radio, and I'm like, bro, it is, is March. And that's all they're talking about. Like, yeah, you gotta, it's.
- [53:16]
Buddy
You gotta live it. You have to have experienced it. Because the first job I ever got on Air was 1580 is Wiol in Columbus, Georgia. And it's, it's in the heart. It's right there. Auburn, Alabama, Georgia, fsu, Florida, Clemson, South Carolina. The most underrated market in the South. It's like market 130 something in the country. But in the south, if you want to talk college football, it's great. And you could take a random Wednesday in, in June, NBA finals could be going on. It doesn't matter. We're talking about the right side of the offensive line. Not, not, not the one deep. Colin. We're talking about rotational pieces over there and we're talking about do we really think this juco kid from Pearl River, Mississippi is really going to be able to shine there? And it's just so intense. You could back off. You just shut up and let guys go for 10 minutes. And they're as versed on it as they would be their own children and their own family and, and their own financial situation. It's really amazing.
- [54:12]
Colin Cowherd
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- [54:43]
Tyler
Hey, I'm Ty. And I'm Dan and we're the Solid Verbal College Football Podcast.
- [54:48]
Dan
College football is pure chaos and that's exactly why we love it.
- [54:52]
Tyler
The solid verbal will keep you sane through all the madness.
- [54:55]
Dan
We'll break down the big games and.
- [54:57]
Tyler
Storylines and of course highlight the weird stuff.
- [55:00]
Dan
The solid verbal is your home for everything. College football, serious, silly, and everything in between.
- [55:07]
Tyler
Listen to the Solid Verbal College football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Nicole Garcia
It may look different, but native culture is alive. My name is Nicole Garcia and on Burnsage Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture.
- [55:25]
Colin Cowherd
Somewhere along the way, it turned into this full fledged award winning comic shop.
- [55:29]
Nicole Garcia
That's Dr. Lee Francis IV who opened the first native comic book shop. Explore his story along with many other native stories on the show Burn Sage, Burn Bridges. Listen to Burn Sage, Burn bridges on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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John Middlekauff
The Internet is something we make, not.
- [55:47]
Colin Cowherd
Just something that happens to us.
- [55:48]
Nicole Garcia
I'm Bridget Todd, host of the Tech and culture podcast. There Are no Girls on the Internet. In our new season, I'm talking to people like Anil Dash, an OG entrepreneur and writer who refuses to be cynical about the Internet.
- [55:59]
Colin Cowherd
I love tech. You know, I've been a nerd my.
- [56:01]
Buddy
Whole life, but it does have to.
- [56:03]
Tyler
Be for something like it's not just.
- [56:04]
John Middlekauff
For its own sake.
- [56:05]
Nicole Garcia
It's an inspiring story that focuses on people as the core building blocks of the Internet. Listen to There are no Girls on the Internet. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
- [56:15]
Tiffany Aliche
This is an iHeart podcast.