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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Colin Cowherd Podcast Prime Cuts - Spurs Building A Dynasty, Aaron Rodgers Final Year? Toughest NFL Schedules
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Colin Cowherd
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Colin Cowherd
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plays yeah look i think he's the best thrower of the football i've ever seen i think when he was peak aaron rodgers he was more talented than maybe anyone i've ever seen play the position i know he's not going to have a resume that holds up with the brady's and the mannings and the montanas and all that kind of stuff and i mean there's just throws there's throws i remember i was watching a game with trent dilfer it's back when espn used to put us up at like sundance square for a month straight yeah and yeah i remember watching one of those playoff games and you're sitting around nfl guys watching a game and just when those guys are in awe then you have no choice but to like be even more impressed than you would have been if you were just sitting there watching the game by yourself i don't know that he's always been the easiest you know i think sometimes like your quarterback should be somebody that reduces drama in the locker room you know i think it's super important you know i think back to those brady years one of the best assets that brady had for belichick is that he wanted to be brainwashed he wanted to be incredibly impressionable he wanted to be just like his head coach and being reserved and never you know something i've always respected about belichick is that he just if you were going to ask him about some kind of distraction he just wasn't going to give it to you he wasn't going to add to the distraction by giving you something else that you could dissect and brady was very much like that and i think the difference is that rogers he was so good that even if it wasn't the same mold of brady challenging the coaches a little bit more challenging the front office decisions i mean you think brady was psyched when they wouldn't take a receiver all the time but he was never going to say anything about it where rogers which i can totally understand i'm probably a little bit more like him than i would be brady where you're like hey what the is going on around here you know right the problem now is i just don't think he was very good last year and every older quarterback finds a way to kind of cheat the game a little bit where it may look like they're still really good and it usually leads to like some predictable throws parts of the field that the opposing defense knows that they don't really have to defend so on a one year you know whatever i i get it but it has to be better than it was last year or pittsburgh is is at best an average team yeah i
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always thought you know where aaron pushed back on the media i always thought tom doing that monday wei hit was classic tom tom wanted to come out monday regardless of what happened sunday and if you ever listen to those interviews and i listen to a lot of them because he'd give you about one bite he would set the tone for the week like okay like he would defuse whatever you were going to ask and if he had a message going forward because you know brady by monday morning had a message for the week he would give you the quotable message aaron's the opposite i mean there's an argument aaron's the opposite personality of tom aaron like dismissed the media or resented them or mocked them brady manipulated them on a monday for his need on that monday eei to just diffuse any potential landmine and i think that's tom at his core you know yeah and
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those interviews too especially back then like what were you ever going to get on his case about and they were they were basically in every game for like twenty years sure some of the playoff games didn't end the way that they want to end but you know when i would think about those interviews it's like okay well they're completely team brady but what other choice did you have like what was there to criticize about this guy and and i what i've enjoyed about brady because that first year he's replacing greg olson who everyone loves he was probably average but average for him in that spot with the contract and the announcement who he's replacing it was pretty critical and then he comes back this year i thought he was fantastic i think he's different when i see him with you colin i'm like my god like this guy has so many great things to talk about you wish that he had been like this a little bit earlier in his career yeah but i think those early bellich years instill something in him it's like if i give them nothing interesting then i'll never i'll never have to worry about all the extra stuff that these other guys kind of like dig these holes they but look they were winning so many games there wasn't really anything you're going to be all that critical of i just the same way i look at steph like when steph is done and i've said it already and i had larry harris on the pod last week from the nba combine where we were just raving about stephen it's like he's not only one of the greatest players of his generation he's the single best partner in team sports like sure steph especially in basketball like he could get vocal he'd say how come we're not trading these draft picks or what's what are we doing here like let's let's package all these picks for like a guy i'm friends with during the summer who may not even be that good anymore but he's not a rookie and and tom was you know the greatest partner which is when you have that at quarterback which is what makes the end so funny because belichick's the only guy that tells a brady with his resume hey i think we're going to move on and belichick does it with zero backup plan to like prove some point which i'll never stop talking about i'll never forget and yet brady handles that with all class when he should have been like he should have been publicly are you fucking kidding you're going to move on from me for cam newton or mac jones to prove some point it's my favorite super bowl ever that he won in
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tampa did did you see belichick had a real moment for me of contextualization i loved it he was on the hannity podcast and hannity asked him figures
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you'd be listening to that one well
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your money yeah yeah he you know you're kind of a grumpy guy and belichick had a great response he goes we just didn't lose much so every time my guys went to the store or the gas station or a restaurant everybody told him they were great he goes i was trying to be the balance he goes you know we just didn't lose very often we never lost at home so you know this season ends and you're like oh seventeen and he's like you had to create some balance he goes you know and i thought to myself oh that's really smart i mean he never explained it i wish he would have given tom maybe a second game ball in twenty years but i do think his point had his point had merit which is guys almost every dynasty jimmy johnson and the cowboys shaq and kobe kd and the warriors the legion of boom ryan they all should have lasted longer but at some point it gets out of whack and pete carroll and russell don't connect or katie doesn't like draymond and basically belichick saying the way to extend it is be the balance because it's smoke up your ass every day when you're dominating a league yeah two things i
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remember there was a game and it was somebody that i was close to that was covering the patriots every day so was in the locker room right and was around the team and they had beaten what was on paper like a good nfc team like all of us thought at the time this is years and years ago we all thought like wow that's a really nice win even for the pats you know that's a really nice team that they beat and i guess belichick looked at the team right before they went out to let the media in and everything and he was like hey he has media's gonna come in here i think the line he said he's like they're gonna have a bag of hand jobs for you which is an incredible incredible way to describe a compliment a marching group of of compliments i love it so much especially with belichick's delivery like a you know get a bag of hand jobs out there for you and then he says the name of the team and he goes they'd be whatever they were he'd be like in whatever point of the season he's like they'd be six and six in our in our conference that's a six and six afc team so like and and you can understand like how hard that game is week to week and you have this really nice win and then your leader is basically telling you being less be less impressed with yourself and that part you know i mean there's a million things about belichick that i respect a ton out of and to your point like when you have to do that stuff but there's also you know to the dynasty running out like to bring back steph again like the twenty two rings the extra ring and i'm thrilled he has it but as they try to build for the twenty six twenty seven season you go hey this stuff is over it's it's been over and it's exactly what's supposed to happen this run started in twenty fourteen twenty fifteen and we're still wondering like because steph's still playing can they put it together and you're like man you should be thrilled you got the twenty two rank but nobody can say that in the moment but the warriors management can't go hey we got kind of an extra one so you know stop giving us
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a hard time well yeah you know it's i talked about that recently is that that dynasty ended before that championship
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it did like it's perfectly said yeah
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yeah it that really wasn't part of the dynasty that was if you remember dallas fell apart john morant got hurt jamal murray got hurt the whole goddamn western conference was right between young and good enough and a lot of the good players all got hurt and they kind of skipped through it and then you get to boston and boston had the series and gagged at home and
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was ready they weren't ready it was early on the boston timeline even though
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the whole league was like a year away the whole league was like a
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year away it's it's not one of the great teams to win an nba championship but i was just happy because i love steph so much that i was like i'm so glad that he got like an extra one on his own but when it comes to like dynasty's ending i remember when jerry krause was with the bulls and you go okay so what are you guys doing they just won three in a row again and we can go back to the last dance and realize those guys were kind of exhausted going into the third one but they have a player in jordan who just you know i do think there's a separator with him and everybody else that i don't i don't know if anybody else wins a title in the third year other than michael jordan because it just seemed like the team was over it and you know kraus ownership they're around it every single day so they win and it's like you know what let's pivot away from this because we don't think they can come back and win the next year i was like okay that's fine and i remember kraus saying specifically like hey the celtics held on to the big three way too long and those guys all got hurt so we're going to pivot out of this and i remember as a young kid granted i'm only like twenty three twenty four when it's happening but i because i like sports i like the roster part of it i was thinking about like man could i ever work in a front office and i thought it was like incredibly insightful i'm like oh he's pointing to the celtics example and he's going to pivot off a team that just won three nba championships in a row with the best player in the world who still can deliver and he's going to do what he's going to break this up because of problems with phil so then michael doesn't want to come back and they don't want to do all these different things and scotty's pissed and you're going to do that for tyson chandler and eddie curry you know so like it sounds like it's this to relate it back to belichick and brady a little bit here where it's like hey i want to get ahead of this and it's like yeah but getting ahead of it for for what like getting ahead of it is one thing and then to execute the plan i think there's teams like if you look at golden state like sure i mean if steph wanted to move on then that would be a different conversation he doesn't want to move on he wants to stay there and be there forever i don't think there's a right answer post a championship run of hey let's pivot immediately most of those teams you're just not going to be that lucky you're not going to be lucky enough to go let's now pivot into the group that four years from now is going to compete for titles well
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i'm glad you brought this up because i was talking about this on the show the last couple of days i said sam presti's you know there's an old saying ryan when you're rich and you get old you can't take it with you so go buy a fucking yacht you got sixty million dollars right and sam presti has the deepest bench pick swaps draft picks congratulations if wemby runs through them do you sit there and go okay their superpower i mean they're not even they haven't put the cape on yet i said today they've just walked into the phone booth i mean twenty twenty one twenty two years old all those guys i mean dylan harper could be all nba by the trade deadline i mean he could be like one of the best player i mean he's already just insane wemby is probably the best two way player in the world i mean stefan castle's a bully i mean he's going to match up with sga perfectly so my take is if oklahoma city loses and kind of like minnesota where you're like shit guys we don't match up does he go all right four draft picks half our bet we'll give you a starting five three draft picks we'll go get giannis i thought the winner after okc i thought the second winner in game one of the western conference finals was milwaukee because you look at it and you're like gobert is an athletic enough holmgren's not strong enough what's the kryptonite for like two to three years maybe giannis is it and i thought would it be crazy you say it's the end of the dynasty right it sounds ridiculous with okc but we kind of thought they were going to rattle off three or four and then you watch and go oh crap let's say six game series but like minnesota san antonio younger and kind of disposes them does okc go big and say we're not going to sit in our hands here we're going to go get giannis it makes sense to me i don't have
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a disagreement with anything you just said okay because i'll admit even that game on monday i started thinking all sorts of wild things going oh my god
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the second half it's like what the
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hell am i watching yeah it was it was awesome too because it feels like this coming out party and you know it depends on what cycle you want to be in with different ratings arguments where it's like you know oh baseball is overtaken basketball and it's like okay but you're also comparing like a dodgers world series against another country off of a dodgers yankees world series against the pacers in the thunder which even though it won seven games like you know is that is that entirely fair because i could look at the arizona texas world series rating and point out the lowest rated world series of all time and that's not exactly like ancient history it was three world series ago so you have these these cycles that i think become very political they become misleading at times and i i think just a lot of the snapshots of these arguments can become incredibly unfair but to pivot off of that i'm watching wemby and i'm going okay is like this over over like he's just going to be the best player in the world for ten years and like we don't even have to do the sga jokic debate anymore is dear and fox and some draft picks is that enough to get ant if ant decides in a year like i want to go play with that guy i i mean i was thinking all sorts of crazy things but then as far as like a coming out party and the test that i always have is like if my mom asks me about a guy who's a pro athlete like that's all i need to know and she's like hey so what's what's going on and then you know your wife or your girlfriend doesn't even like sports all of a sudden it's like captivated by this seven foot four guy that none of us have ever seen unless you're creating him on a video game and then your buddies would laugh and be like hey i created this guy he's the real version of all of these things to go like i don't even know if i can put a limit on what's possible not only for his success individually what the team would be but then if say they're playing the knicks in the nba finals and it's the wemby show that now has become something that's in that kind of tertiary world of of people paying attention to the nba and then of course like the knicks bonus of that and the whole thing i was i was all over the place like with wild unhinged irresponsible thoughts if i was doing a radio show people would be cutting it up left and right so i admire any restraint you could have had because i know you had an okc question in there too which i think we need to stay on but go ahead no
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but i literally thought that i mean i had like ten rants going on in my head one of them was this right okay okc's got the twelfth and seventeenth pick and i'm like okay i'll give both of those away move to nine get a di mara trade holmgren hartenstein's leaving anyway i'm just going to go get two new bigs because this shit doesn't work at all i'll keep caruso to be the off speed pitch but i'm going to get the spaniard the defensive kid for michigan i need two bigs because one ain't going to work gobert got played off the floor so i'm going to go get mara and giannis and i'm like because i like everything else and i literally thought to myself that's not crazy sam
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presti would do that right okay now let's let's be sane here for a minute oklahoma city lost one game in overtime okay so there's that presti doesn't do any of the stuff you just talked about historically he's probably one of the most reserved guys because he trusts his own process of drafting and developing which he should because i think the guy is like just a completely another level there's a giannis decision on an extension for like two hundred seventy five million for a guy that's not exactly been healthy the end of multiple years after his championship five years ago so i think that's another factor in in this giannis market being described as lukewarm by a lot of different people that
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would oh yeah until i watched the second half of that game it was
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we're also rounding up on some of these draft guys hey mara's a big kid nice nice sees the game like he's supposed to come into the league and solve this so that the thunder are like we got to get that guy that's redid some of the names that i've heard about because of their body types in this draft class are supposed to come in and solve the problem that the grown men who've been playing in this league for multiple years
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cancel plus it's a guard draft
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i i'm with you in that i let my mind run wild because again a year ago we never learn a year ago we're like oh okay he's going to win like the next five we're not even twelve months removed from that accepted statement and we're wondering if they need to totally rebuild this thing with half the roster because they lost game one in overtime where aj mitchell hits a three they're up one oh so i'd expect the thought i thought it was a seven game series the spurs are so ahead of schedule this will be one of the most miraculous championship runs ever if they pull this thing off there's nothing i don't want to doubt wemby at all i guess i just kind of felt like you know again that default kind of seasoning i wish i'd had the balls to pick the spurs but i picked the thunder and seven it is not an organization that would react the same way that we do in the content game today's
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Colin Cowherd
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Malcolm Glebel
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Stefano Pallard
is strongly american it's more scuderia ferrari
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Malcolm Glebel
i'm still working on rolling my r's but what i was able to learn from stefano was the importance of engaging the tifosi the ferrari superfans in the
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Stefano Pallard
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Malcolm Glebel
a winning team you've got ferrari which has a long history design history and now you're interacting in a kind of digital space i'm curious how you balance those two traditions when it comes to
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Stefano Pallard
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Ryan
i wanted to talk some football because we haven't talked in a while and i thought it was really interesting one of the albert breer was on my show the other day and it's like i learned this years ago he was a writer at usa today john saracino and this was like god this was in the nineties and we were talking one time about journalism and he goes you know you can write the same story two ways you know if people treat you poorly you know over the course of a journalism career if somebody just consistently is a pain in the ass you know you're a human being you can write the same story two different ways and i think the nfl's always done that schedules are not even even though the hardest and the weakest with you know new england's last year was historically weak but you know it's not as statistically the gap isn't the grand canyon but the niners playing thirty eight times fifty eight time zones and coming from australia and then not getting a monday night game an extra day's rest while the rams do did you kind of feel like albert breer brought this up that you know kyle being outspoken nfl does not like friendly fire they never have they will punish you if you don't fall in line i mean they do it with networks when john you may not remember this maybe you do remember playmakers no i watched
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Colin Cowherd
it in my freshman year in college it was my favorite show on television
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Ryan
colin okay there is no question nfl punished espn five years in a row gave them crap games punished and it was their way of slapping their hand and saying don't glamorize the ugly parts of our game which are allegations to begin with probably most at some point were true you know on on some steroid you know performance enhancing stuff i don't remember call it it was the
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Colin Cowherd
league i mean it basically paralleled what was going on in the nfl at the time it was real but it
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Ryan
was just fake and so i and i worked at espn and i said it on the air when i was there i'm like oh we're being punished there's no question so do you think they punished the niners and kyle shanahan
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Colin Cowherd
well i think we got to go back to belichick he was always at those league meetings he refused to take the picture he was the one guy that always really got after it and i'm not even talking about the suspensions and the stuff he always had a big beef with the people in the league office had never coached most of them had never played they did not know what it was like to try to operate the thing making the money and it's where he always butted heads and he took it to the nth degree i do think kyle i mean kyle's had money since he was a kid you know so kyle carries himself and now he's really successful i don't think he's afraid to piss people off right he's not afraid to piss people off in his own building he is not happy with the international travel and specifically this game i don't disagree with them i think australia i think we could talk big picture like i'm not one of those people i know you're not either i'm not just like anti successful people you're either growing or dying the nfl i think is it tapped out domestically how much bigger can it get yeah you know no one wants to just well they're making enough that that's not how people think now is this going to work in twenty thirty years we'll look back i don't know but i could see australia i mean these two teams have to fly sixteen years i thought when he was at the owner's meetings with florio and lafleur kind of poked him his main beef was with the rams you lived in los angeles for a long time the forty nine ers have all their home games at levi stadium and they have two other home games in los angeles where they have i went to a game there once it felt like seventy five percent niner fans absolutely same deal here in arizona they have multiple niner home games so the rams when they were going to get one of their games they found out they're going to australia they start going to the league you know kevin dimaf very well connected we want the niners and so kyle's going well of course they want us because at their home game they got to go on silent count so i but i also think kyle's much more in the school of a bill or sean payton where he's not afraid to piss people off it doesn't mean like andy reid just because he's a nice guy isn't making his displeasures known i actually have no problem with the no monday night game because i thought the league did give them a solid they do get the dolphins and the cardinals this australia game's huge whoever wins that game i think we would both agree is going to feel like three wins because of the travel but if you do lose it to get the dolphins and the cardinals if you're the niners i think it's a pretty easy two home games i actually think the monday night game if you told me i could get the next week the dolphins at home because they're good by the time they land it'll be like friday night they do get saturday sunday to kind of yeah because once you go the monday night game then it direct you know just get you off a little bit now if you win the australia game it won't necessarily matter you'll be feeling pretty good but i don't think the niners necessarily got screwed with that you could argue colin the rams and the packers playing that wednesday thanksgiving they don't get a buy their buy is the previous week where usually you get another week till you play on sunday that's their buy from minor unless i'm misreading everything that i saw am i correct on it and then they play the next that wednesday so they get the week off like they play on sunday week off and then they play on wednesday because the league because of those rules couldn't play the previous weekend on saturday because of college and high school football right so i i'd argue the rams they don't just get a normal buy throughout the packers too like that sucks you don't think they're displeased with that like this is this is what happens with the expansion the international game yeah these teams you know a lot of these gm's talk to these coaches they are furious now a lot of them don't have the juice or the equity to say what kyle's saying well all thinking it yeah and
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Ryan
i will say this that the international games used to get jacksonville i think the nfl has looked at research looked at merch sales and said guys we got some momentum here we are really building something so i will give the nfl credit and i mean you know i own the volume i mean i know the understanding is you don't stand pat or you get gobbled up you have to grow that's the reality of business you're trying to create scale it makes you more powerful you can buy better shows if you stand pat in any business you're dead so i the nfl and i'll tell you something when i go i go to europe i try to go every year with my son it's our kind of dad son thing we try to he goes and he's still in college he'll go over do a class abroad every year in the summer and i'll go over early with him his mom will go over late and i see nfl stuff not a ton of it but i see some of it and so it's like oh yeah you'll go to a sports bar you'll go to a pub and you'll see stuff and it's like oh look at that and so i'm going to defend the nfl and the international games i don't i you know brazil felt like wow that is just that remember the packers eagles went over there but you know i just i always push back i'll give you an example college football playoff it's going to maybe go to twenty four everybody freaks out john well the regular season won't matter well the college football playoff was twelve last year and the ratings were up from previous years yeah so they so they tripled the size of the playoff or actually had a playoff and the ratings went up well nobody will care about auburn alabama folks auburn versus alabama is going to matter in that state for the rest of my life texas oklahoma those teams could be zero five texas oklahoma is going to matter i grew up in washington state the apple cup some years it was insane because somebody was going to the rose bowl it was i went to several it was always huge so i mean that it's and we can circle back to that later but my point is i think international is just part of it
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Colin Cowherd
well i'll give you one the forty nine ers they play two games right australia and mexico city they want to go to mexico city i think if you just ask casual guy who's got the biggest mexican fan base they'd be like cowboys raiders i bet if you quantified it the niners would be every bit as big if not bigger they actively wanted to play that game in mexico city they did a couple of years ago i think ownership wise i don't know if kyle would yeah yeah they probably do it every year you know kind of like jacksonville with london and i think you know kyle salary and john salary keeps going up they're like hey we'll go to mexico city every other year they want that they have no problem with that game i think the australia the brazil like i clearly anyone that's met some from australia they love sports over there i do think the time zone you know as someone that likes golf and you watch it sometimes when time zone gets off look they have to play that game at ten thirty five australian time to kick off now for them they'll acclimate weird time for the people over there like i i understand the uk london france they've expanded into germany yeah sixteen hour flight colin i mean you've been on some long flight that's a long time that's a long what would you guess if they're playing that game technically thursday for us friday that they leave saturday the previous week i mean honestly
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Ryan
it's it's i've never gone to australia i once asked lachlan murdoch you know the murdoch are from australia yeah and lock lachlan obviously owns fox i asked him once hey you know i was thinking about going to australia lachlan's a really nice guy i mean just really really cool guy i mean if you're around him it's he had a party at his house once i was invited to i walked in he's knocking down australian beer like he's just a regular guy yeah yeah i mean he's just he's got a just a cool setup in his house but he said ah it's like you live in manhattan beach don't you it's it's just like manhattan beach don't go so i think for a lot of the west coast players you know california has sort of an australia feel to it now if you take you know i i don't know i people grumble about change and growth but i got to tell you if i was a pro player and i got to play in brazil or australia i think maybe if i was a veteran i wouldn't love it but if i could open my season there i think it would be kind of cool
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Colin Cowherd
i think players in general are less phased right no different than like i think sometimes employees or whatever are less phased by man than management like i think everyone looks at it through a different lens i think that's something that keeps coaches up at night and front offices up at night sure do you think chris mccaffrey's lost much sleep about it he's probably already got some hyperbaric chamber that will trap on the travel case you know matt stafford they're already preparing sending food over there so if it doesn't you know the players they adapt i remember working for pat hill he's like players adapt so much faster than coaches believe you know pro college you name it you could play on the moon tomorrow they'd be like okay where do i put my cleats and i think sometimes and we talk a lot about it because the coaches talk all the time so we react to them then you hear the players talk yeah no big deal we'll be ready and you know what i found fascinating about the rams is you know whenever i come down to do your show and i'm in los angeles obviously i spent most of my life in california but i'm from northern california you know in northern california the giants the warriors under steph has become this huge brand and obviously the niners are like the yankees of football up there la has that it's just the lakers and the dodgers the rams are one of the rare they're way bigger nationally than they are like you go locally yeah you go locally the dodgers feel like the yankees down there right and the lakers are just have historic ingrained soul to the people the rams just don't and people you know some people push back it's like guys they went to saint louis for a long time and they
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Ryan
were winning also bulls they were the orange county team that was really if you looked at la was raiders territory chargers was san diego the rams i remember bob starr was the play by play guy you know the rams never felt like la the raiders felt like la so you know i i mean i don't know i just i mean i think they've done a great job in los angeles to build i mean how lucky are they they have stafford and mcveigh and stan kroenke and there's a lot i see during the season you see a lot of la rams stuff in the city but i don't know you know the editor schedule it's funny people say you know the toughest schedule was the bears and i'm like i think kansas city schedule having to face josh allen matt stafford joe burrow three weeks in a row all on the road followed by drake may justin herbert brock purdy i'm like that's six pro bowl ish quarterbacks in a row if you go five hundred i mean honestly you'd feel good about that the bear schedule is fascinating to me so i do believe the nfl takes teams
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Colin Cowherd
and
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Ryan
wants to make sure that certain markets i mean we always think the nba is market sensitive but chicago is a massive television market and a huge sports town and was dormant in the nfl it felt like for fifteen years the bears are supposed to have the hardest schedule zero teams off a buy carolina minnesota to start not brutal at the end of the year they get green bay and detroit both at home again that's about as good as you're going to do in division the toughest game seattle they get extra rest and then they get jacksonville new england you know those are go either away games both at home i looked at their schedule then i looked at denver's first six games or kansas city's gauntlet of quarterbacks i just for all the advertisements last year new england had the easiest schedule it was ridiculous i remember looking at it the niners schedule last year just jumped off it jumped off your phone you're like jesus this is just bad quarterback after bad quarterback i didn't think the bear schedule is that bad
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Colin Cowherd
at all yeah i mean unlike college football you know notre dame's getting crushed they go well we scheduled michigan state ten years ago and they were good now they suck you know right and the nfl just rotates so part of the reason i think if you look at the nfc west and the afc west they're playing each other this year so those divisions it's like are already good and then it's like oh seattle let's play kansas city let's play denver denver plays the niners and the other thing with the bears last year is two of their three wins were against the packers a team that they just couldn't beat forever and now they have momentum and confidence against them the other thing is if you just pull up their schedule that week three at night monday night football against the eagles jumps out i watched that game on my couch on black friday last year ben johnson destroyed the philadelphia eagles and vic fangio's defense ran it right down their throat so to me the giants and the commanders got a lot of respect they're both getting four i think combined eight primetime games jaden daniels had one of the great rookie seasons we've ever seen but last year he was banged up he slim it's like is there coach any good like i ben johnson's a star and clearly caleb his ceiling who knows if he'll ever hit it but he's damn good right can jaden even stay on the field what does caleb ever get hurt either is washington's roster that good you know the giants who doesn't like john harbaugh it's been very impressive same resume as mccarthy we all think mccarthy and the steelers stink you know we'll see john harbaugh jolted back when he got lamar jackson one of the most talented players we've ever seen so i feel really confident about the bears carrying it over those are the two teams that are getting the same treatment in terms of primetime games it's like i don't know you know can jackson dart stay on the field the whole time last year he was running around he got hurt that's the one thing you feel good about is like caleb and ben johnson you know i i would buy more stock in ben johnson if he was on the s and p and clearly caleb should just improve because his improvement isn't on stuff that's very tough to reach his improvement is like hit a wheel route hit the out route on time i'm not high on minnesota i've had vikings sneaky have a big fan base i hear from them a lot oh no they do in the last twenty five seasons we've had like five bad seasons they are a very consistent organization this quarterback situation though you know the jj situation if he doesn't win that job to me he won't even be on the team week one kyler's just a pretty fickle guy he can look good he can get injured he can look
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Ryan
bad you know you've watched him in
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Colin Cowherd
arizona yeah they gave him a couple million dollars to carson carson wentz didn't just get a veteran minimum no money they guaranteed him seven figures he's going to make three million dollars that's like the going rate for kind of like an older veteran backup so they're hedging their bet a little bit like this could go up now they have an excellent coaching staff but to me minnesota's a little bit on tilt yeah i'm betting against him same i'm betting for
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Ryan
kyler i kind of i kind of feel like he's not going to be sam darnold good because i think darnold's better but i'm kind of rude i've always been a kyler fan understand all the nonsense and if he fails in minnesota then it's on everybody else that attains him i do think he's going to play well he's a motivated player and i do think he's talented as hell and they went out and got you know juwan jennings like they have real players here i think they're somewhat limited although it should be noted the vikings last year in division were four and two that division's weird it's a
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Colin Cowherd
weird division it's kind of like the north you look up on thursday night football and the browns are beating the bengals or the or the steelers like what's going just because it is that northern element of football to me is like anytime those six teams play each other or i guess eight teams in the in the afc and nfc north you're never shocked with an outcome the schedule that by far to me is the hardest and we knew it because again we knew who everyone was playing we just didn't know the dates that's what the crazy part about the nfl is it makes a big deal over something we already knew is the patriots schedule is oh brutal i mean they
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Ryan
are on the road every third week
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Colin Cowherd
for a long trip and they just it's a lot of seattle's and and you know bears and packers and lions and chargers obviously they play the bills twice the chiefs the broncos i do think the jets who were an absolute laughingstock last year do have a lot of good players if they're quarterbacks oh
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Ryan
god their offense if you if you put if i said sam darnold goes back to new york and they had a good coach look at the jets offensive i mean they got both tackle set running back wide receiver tight end there they actually have whoever the next quarterback is is walking into a great
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Colin Cowherd
space they're assuming geno is just not just completely shot they're probably more likely a five or six win team than like a two win team yeah you know it's hard i mean we see a lot of jim tom sula won five games you know it's it's sometimes i think people underestimate you know like the season the raiders and the jets have that doesn't happen to even bad franchises that that's a once in five years you have awful you go ask andy what six and eleven six and eleven feels brutal right so you have the two or three win seasons that's as bad as it gets the patriots to me i mean that that opening night at seattle that that place that that place is going to be just it's going to feel like an sec game you won't be able to hear yourself think that team is seattle's clearly more talented ask him that's a tough start spot on wednesday night godspeed mike
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Ryan
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Stefano Pallard
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Malcolm Glebel
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Ryan
so i did want to address the college football thing so it looks like they're going to move in the direction of the twenty fourteen playoff and again i did not grow up in a traditional family blah blah blah so i like change i don't like all change don't screw the masters don't screw with march madness i mean there are some things i just think are i mean i literally watch every shot the last couple days of the masters i just don't screw with it and i think there are some things you can tweak i think sports i think rules are very tweakable but when people say you know college basketball colin i mean it's it's there are so many teams in the tournament it's made college basketball's regular season irrelevant well college basketball's regular season is three times as long as the twelve game college football regular season right right also in college basketball with sixty eight teams we don't have really i mean anybody with a life we don't really argue on selection sunday you know about a legitimate team not getting in in college football we went to a twelve team playoff notre dame had an argument to get in like that that was a real argument now i i said i thought miami deserved more than notre dame but notre dame had their argument right like that's just with twelve if you go to twenty four like college basketball you're going to get out of legitimate big time arguments the second thing here is college football is more popular than college basketball and it's not particularly close college basketball i remember telling doug gottlieb this he admits it now but at the time he because he loved college basketball he said college basketball is like a three week sport college football is a four month sport now with the playoff it's a five it's almost you know september october november december it's a four and a half month sport so college football can doesn't have to play by college basketball rules i understand that people say it can ding the regular season but the way college football ended my entire life and i've been a fan of college football it's the first sport i really fell in love with baseball and college football john it used to be sports writers voted on who should be number one then it was the stupid bcs system and then it was i mean it was just an it's gone it was computers it's been sports writers it's like guys we've all thought college football was the best movie with a ludicrous ending so now we're just going to have a longer ending and the other knock i have on college football as a gigantic fan is there's always been this kind of scarcity of big games where like labor day weekend you're like oh i want to watch it and you're like there's only two great games because with a twelve team playoff notre dame almost guaranteed to be in and two james madison's you're like well then it's like a nine team playoff nobody wants to play big games you get to sixteen to twenty four okay now now i'm willing to play that tough notre dame out of conference game by the way notre dame's pete bavaca knows he's for the expansion because he knows in his conference he needs usc he needs a texas he needs they have texas scheduled in a couple years although the game is very fluid so my take is college football's ending always underwhelmed it was it got very sec it was always like well there should be more teams involved so i don't have a problem changing the ending to a movie when nobody really liked the ending to the movie
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Colin Cowherd
i would only be okay with it if we just remove all the crappy regular season games then you are mandated to only play other power four teams maybe you get one non powerful state or whatever you no longer get to play the sisters of the poor before the auburn game you no longer you know usc has scheduled some uc davis types which i understand even though i hate it now i get why they do it that that has to go away in the nfl the the you know the forty nine ers don't get to schedule birmingham in the ufl week three let's you play other teams at your level are they just going to you know you and i are just some d one double a guys they have a twenty fourteen playoff it's pretty simple you start right after the regular season ends but in d one double a you don't have conference championship games and then they have a twenty four teams make it the top eight teams get a buy sixteen teams play at home venues and you could only honestly go to home venues because i think one thing that pops you know better than me the economics of these neutral site games for the broadcast partners the home venue games pop on remember a couple of years ago when signetti came out of nowhere playing notre dame on that night game you're like this is incredible penn state smu i think they played during the day but anytime this year alabama hosted or oklahoma hosted alabama at night on friday night huge that works so to me if you go multiple games at home i don't need expansion but if it's inevitable i'm just going to get behind it because i'm going to watch it you got to start right away none of this these coaches dan lanning's been talking about this kirby let's just play none of these huge breaks and to me you would just start immediately i've been saying forever if they were going to stay the same because it was clear last year and it kind of became evident a couple years ago but last year i have a lot of respect for ohio state and indiana both teams did they both could have just said we're not playing this conference championship game but not only they play they played it like it was the national championship i would turn that conference championship game because clearly it's a huge moneymaker for the big ten the sec you take two teams especially in the twenty four it's like a it's like a elimination game you got to win that game to get into the dance that was my thought with the twelve team playoff maybe i don't know if that would change in the twenty four but what happens in the conference championship game in a twenty fourteen playoff why would anyone want the extra mileage if you're going to have to go even farther yeah that would be one question that they have to figure out and these commissioners are already talking about it like yeah it's pretty it's pretty clear that changes are on the horizon with these championship games if we keep headed down this because a team could happen this year we're not playing in it and you couldn't
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Ryan
even blame them yeah i mean one of the things that small colleges like i went to eastern washington and their argument is yeah we need that game against washington state and i've always like pushed back and said listen if your school needs a blowout loss to have a sports program maybe you shouldn't have a sports program and i say that from somebody that went to eastern washington university my take is if you can't make the economics work without playing tennessee and losing fifty six to ten that you shouldn't have sports you shouldn't have that sport at your school but this
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Colin Cowherd
all this all gets back though colin to the title nine thing it's like football could afford at eastern washington to pay for itself they can't have all the other athletics that's where the business model of college athletics gets a little funky it does not parallel pro sports at all even though now football is being run like a pro operation so it's that to me is the the elephant in the room as we move in this economic kind of windfall that football and basketball is bringing in is tennis teams are getting cut i mean are all these are none of these going to exist they're all just exist at the club level i think that's very possible in the next ten years
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Ryan
again this has been so i've taught i have friends who are you know have kids playing tennis at college and i've said it's just not sustainable when your business model is listen we're hemorrhaging money but we feel like we're better humans because we have fencing it's like guys that's not going to last we're seeing it across with ai we're seeing it across all business models a lot of stuff that we just said you know it's just you know it's just it's getting more severe more bottom line with sports just like the nfl you guys are going to go overseas you're going to have to deal with seventeen games or we're going to move to eighteen games everything grows over time everything grows and if you're one of those people that's uncomfortable with it i understand it there's a lot of traditionalists in this country i get it
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