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Today's guest on the pod is Dan Farah. Dan's the director and producer of Age of Disclosure. It's currently on Prime Video. In fact, it's the number one movie on.
Prime. And if you look at their lineup, that's pretty heady stuff. Dan Farah has made a movie that has altered my perception of intelligence beyond our borders and beyond our capabilities. And when I watched Age of Disclosure.
And I'm not as cynical today as I was 20 years ago and a lot of that's because of videos of craft and technology that we're clearly not capable of. And so I thought I want to spend an hour with Dan Farah. And many of you have seen it, probably many more of you will see it. And so let's start our interview. Well, for years.
I thought man on Wire was my favorite documentary and if you've not seen that, I highly recommend it. But our next guest, Dan Farah, is a director and producer of Age of Disclosure. And anybody who has listened to my 3 hour radio TV show knows I was much more cynical about CRAFT.
Until I saw the Pentagon leaked New York Times reporting on the Tic Tac shaped device. And subsequently the pilots, our pilots, freaking out. They were highly credible people. And from that point forward, I think, I look at it, I don't feel there's a stigma in America. I don't look at it cynically. Dan Farah has created a documentary I think is really for those of you who have been cynical. Age of Disclosure. It took I read three years to produce this. 34 senior intelligence officials, astrophysicists, pilots, people who have been biologically affected. I have to start with this, Dan. Over the course of your production of this.
This is really a lifetime work. I mean, this is something you're obviously proud of.
When was the moment, maybe it was an interview.
I certainly know I had a couple during the documentary. When was a moment kind of a jaw dropper or a shit just got real. I am hearing things that even I. You may have questioned or been a bit cynical about. Did you have one of those aha moments?
Dan Farah
Well, for me, it was when I started to get access at a high level to intelligence officials, military officials, government officials, and got an audience with them in private before I interviewed them. Just private conversations, phones off.
Real honest, grounded conversations about the reality of this. For me, the eye open, the first eye opening experience was realizing that all these people who have mostly no relationship at all and are ideologically opposed, you know, they all have different worldviews, they all have different political beliefs, they all have different social beliefs, they were all saying the same thing. And it was super eye opening to me, right off the bat in those first few weeks of, you know, going to D.C. and getting these, these private meetings, it was, it was shocking how lined up they all were on these big truths that have been hidden from the public. And they were also all lined up on why they haven't spoken about it so far. So there's this line that they can't cross, right? There's classified information that none of these people reveal. But there's a lot that they can lawfully disclose. And for decades, people with that information have just been discouraged from sharing it publicly.
For various reasons. Threats to their career, threats to their reputation. Some people feared it would cost them their life.
And they just decided it was best to keep silent about it. And as I had these conversations with them, I realized that the only way to get these kind of people to speak up with what they lawfully could would be to give them the platform to do it arm in arm, you Know, to have, for them all to, you know, you know, step up and speak their truth together. And to do it in a film that is assuring them, hey, you're not going to be intercut with some knucklehead, you know, who's just cool casting or has like an interesting opinion. It's only going to be, I will only interview people who have direct knowledge of this topic as a result of working for the US government and I'll put you all in the same film together. You can have safety in numbers, there'll be dozens of you. And that was the solution to the problem. But again, the eye opening thing for me was just how in sync all of these people were. Regardless of their political opinion, regardless of their ideologies, they were all in sync on the reality of the situation. And that just didn't. That's eye opening.
Colin Cowherd
So let's talk about the retrieval program.
Because that's not something that happened over the last year or two. That is 40, 50 plus years.
Dan Farah
Russia, 80 years.
Colin Cowherd
80 years. 80 years total. And for the uninitiated, the people who have not seen this, and I figure between 30 and 50% of my audience have, and 60 to 50 something thereabouts haven't. The explain what the retrieval program is that's been going on for 80 years because we'll make that our starting point.
Dan Farah
Yeah. So look, the biggest headline of what's revealed in this film is that the existence of non human intelligent life, intelligent life that is not human, has been covered up for 80 years. And on top of that, there has been a deeply hidden program within our government system and our military system that has been capturing and retrieving crashed UAP, formerly known as UFOs. Right. And been doing so for 80 years. And they have been actively working behind the scenes to figure out how to reverse engineer this technology, meaning how to recreate it. Right. This technology that does things that we don't have the current ability to do. And they're trying to figure out how it works so that we can use that technology. That is the simplest way to say it. Now, people in my film reveal that this program has been operating for 80 years outside of congressional oversight, meaning it's been hidden from Congress, the people we elect to oversee how our tax dollars are spent, how our country is run. Right. This program is operating outside of their oversight. People in the film also reveal that the program has even been operating outside of the oversight of the President United States, meaning the public Congress and the White House are out of the loop. Right. And a Number of the people in my film feel like that needs to change because we are now in a very heightened, high stakes Cold War technology race with China because they have the same set of circumstances. They have also been retrieving these crashed UAP UFOs.
Colin Cowherd
And our intelligence tells us that.
Dan Farah
Yeah, and that's what, that's what the people in my film reveal, that China has a very active program and so does Russia. The biggest concern is China specifically, but China and Russia have programs and this is a technology race and people in my film refer to it as the Manhattan Project on steroids. You know, the atomic. Right, sure. And so people might film feel like it's important for this all to come out of the shadows and the base facts to be known so that the US can put more resources towards it. You know, government only puts resources towards what the public demands. Resources are put towards. Right. You know, right, right after 911 average person in America was like, hey, we got to put more money towards counterterrorism. Right. We need more, you know, going on here to fight this stuff. And so what happened, we put tons of resources, funding towards it. The, the position of the Director of National Intelligence was created to make sure the intelligence community was sharing more information so we could avoid an intelligence failure like 911 happening again. And so what the people in my film are essentially saying is, hey, let's not wait till something bad happens on this front. Let's, let's make the public aware of the base facts of the situation so that the right amount of resources can be put towards it so people can, the average person can learn what's happening and can make their voice heard to their elected representatives and say, hey, take this more seriously. Put the right resources towards this. And that's really why they're speaking up about this secret program.
Colin Cowherd
So.
And in terms of technology, there are things that China is ahead of us. Electric vehicles, some would say 5G.
I would say high speed rail. You could argue that China is our equal space technology is. Again.
I feel like they're in our class. And so as I watched the Tick Tock Tic Tac. As I watched the Tic Tac. Yeah, that video that came, you know, from the Pentagon, New York Times. I remember opening the paper and thinking, wtf, what is going on? My first thought is China's ahead of us. Now there are things, there are economic metrics, Dan, that they're not. And their form of government I don't think is obviously not as progressive, but there are things that they are ahead of us. And I thought, you know what? They have cracked the code of reverse engineering. That's why. And they may have done it decades ago, because if they can activate and deactivate nuclear, you know, base weapons, why wouldn't they blow us up? Why wouldn't they sow doubt and chaos? Why would they do this covertly? So are there anybody in our 34.
Insiders that you talk to that think maybe a big part of this is China beating us to the race, not wanting to start World War 3, but if they can deactivate nuclear sites, which has been discussed and has happened, they're testing stuff and they're simply ahead of us. They don't want to start war, but they want to end it and control us. Is that possible?
Dan Farah
Well, look, anything's obviously possible, but the, the people I interviewed made it clear that this high stakes race with China is a very close race. And Senator Rounds from South Dakota, who's a very senior guy in the US Senate, he says in the film, he says, do you think that Putin and Xi would hesitate for even a second to use this technology for their global domination if they didn't think we, the US had access to the same technology? And that was a really bombshell line in the film and a big statement by him because it sheds light on how real this technology race is. Both, both countries have made progress, clearly. And there's a general belief, though, that we would benefit from general belief amongst people I interviewed that we would benefit as a nation if the base facts were made public. And the analogy a lot of these guys made with me is when we entered the space race, Kennedy gave that big famous, you know, rally speech where he said, you know, we're, we are determined to win this race. And he speaks about the space technology. He says space technology is like nuclear technology. It has no conscious of its own. It's up to mankind to either use that technology for good or for bad, for peace or for war. Right. And his whole point was he wanted the US to lead the way in the space race so that the US could make sure that technology is used for the better fit, betterment of mankind and not for war. And it's the same situation here. And I don't think. And a lot of people I've interviewed have made it clear to me that they don't think we would have won the space race if that speech hadn't happened and made it clear to the public that this was a real thing, because what happened as a result of that is people in the scientific community and people in Academia could say to themselves, hey, I can put my brain power towards this. I can help the U.S. win. Right. They, you know, they can apply themselves to that, to that effort. Whereas now this situation is so hidden in secrecy. The average scientist, the average person at, you know, at, you know, academia, these like, you know, super smart people that are at MIT and all these fancy schools, they don't even know this is real. Right. And obviously they can't help us win this race if they don't know it's real, you know.
Colin Cowherd
Right. And that's another reason for the age of disclosure. People are pressing this. The Manhattan Project, of course, there were I think 130,000 people involved. UK, Canada, the United States, the Manhattan Project. It was, you know, the nuclear bomb.
Dan Farah
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Do we have a sense between the Number of people, 130,000 people in America is a large corporation.
Dan Farah
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
But given the time of the Manhattan Project, it's a remarkable number of people working on something covertly.
Dan Farah
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Do we have any idea that the volume, Dan, the number of people between defense contractors, CIA, Air Force intelligence officials.
What is the number we're talking about? That people that have knowledge and that are working on retrieval programs and advancement of devices and craft.
Dan Farah
Yeah. This is one of the fascinating thoughts. I've been told off the record that this is not a small program, that this is thousands of people employed full time. And, and that it's been the case for eight years. And, and I've been told that the overall budget of this situation is closer to a trillion dollars. There's billions here for 80 years. And to people who focus on this every single day and every time I've thought about that.
It'S, it's really a head scratcher because what, what it leads you to is, you know, the guy you're sitting next to on the bleachers at your kid's little league baseball game, you know, he might have just spent his day working on this stuff. And you think he's a, you know, a UPS driver, you know, or like, you know, the, the family across from you at the local pizza place. The dad might be dealing with non human technology all day in this high stakes race and his family doesn't know about it, his neighbors don't know about it, and you don't know about it. These are normal people who are living amongst us who have the job of dealing with this, you know, and that's, that's a pretty remarkable thought. But it was the case with the Manhattan Project too. Like you said, lots of people going to work every day working on this atomic race. You know, the stakes were the future of humanity back then, whether it was going to help us win World War II or not. And they were dealing with this. They were falling asleep with that on their shoulders. And their neighbors had no clue. Their family had no clue. You know, so we've been, we as a, as a country, we've been in a situation like this before, but this is, this is the biggest version of it yet by far.
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Colin Cowherd
The first pop moment for me watching this when I really sat back. I watched it twice and then I've watched several interviews was when you went and it was senior officials, highly credible people, many retired. You went To Missoula or Missouri or.
California. You went to bases a great. It was really like Google Maps. You went in and zoned in on these bases and told stories. And these were people that were older.
They were not hyperbolic. They almost.
Felt as if they were ashamed they hadn't told the story earlier.
That's what it felt like to me. They felt like, listen, I'm telling you this story. I mean, what in the world could it have been? I didn't know. They felt guilty for not telling it earlier. Of all those base stories, and there's four or five you illustrate, and it's really worth watching for that five minute part of the documentary. Which one to you? I mean, because they all felt so real. And there's no reason at this point you're retired to, you know, ad lib it or disclose information that's not forthright and honest.
Dan Farah
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Which one of those base experiences to you is there? One you still think about or one that had the most impact to you?
Dan Farah
For sure, one. One really stands out to me. But first I'll tell you. Look, you interview people every day. This film, this was the first documentary I directed and the first time I conducted interviews. Right. And I. I really truly felt it when they. When they were sharing their truths and their experiences. I felt like these people were just getting a weight off their shoulder and. And like, relieved to finally talk about it. Right. Like they wanted the world to know the truth. They felt deserved. The world deserved to know the truth. So the activity of bases, UAP bases. The UAP activity over military bases. It's not just military bases. Also our nuclear weapons sites. And it.
Colin Cowherd
Yes.
Dan Farah
And it's active. It's an ongoing issue. And I interviewed a number of military officials who experienced events that happened in our classified airspace over military bases. And one that really stands out took place at Vanderburg Air Force Base. I'm in Los Angeles right now as I talked to you. And just up the coast, like two hours is Vandenberg, right around Santa Barbara area. And I interviewed a Air Force security guard whose job at the time was to guard nuclear weapons. Like a guy we clearly trust, right? Like not a. Not a crazy person. Like someone put in a. In a very trusted position. And he was amongst. It was five or six other Air Force security guards at the time. They saw a light coming off the coast, the Pacific coast, towards the base. At first they thought it was an airplane that was flying towards them. They just saw a single light. And then as it got closer, the light went away. And what Came into view was a giant, what they described as a giant craft the size of a football field. It puts his arms out like this and says it was the size of a football field. It was rectangular, it was matte black, no lights, no visible means of propulsion, and it was just there. And it came over the base, over their heads, and it hovered over their heads. And they said they just looked up in awe, in shock at this extraordinary thing that just defied everything they knew about reality.
Colin Cowherd
And.
Dan Farah
And then it shot off at thousands of miles an hour. Obviously, you know, mankind has never made a craft the size of a football field that could fly with no propulsion system and no lights and then shoot off at thousands of miles an hour. And, you know, hearing. Hearing this, this. This person tell this story was extraordinary. He had never spoken up publicly about it. This was his first time going public after almost a decade.
He had no desire previously to talk about it, but when he learned about who was speaking up in this film and revealing the truth, he felt like it was important for him to join that and share his truth. But what was also extraordinary on top of that is, after talking to him, I talked to other Air Force security guards that were on the base that day, and they all told the same thing. They all had the same story from different perspectives. And then a couple of them actually slipped me the police report, the Air Force security police report that had the details, the details in it. And it's a real situation that actually happened. And that is extraordinary, the idea that there are human beings out there in our country that have had these experiences. You know, and I, and I, and I. You know, I was talking about this with Joe Rogan last week. I ask you, like, think about, like, put yourself in the shoes of this guy. What, like, what would your reaction be? You look up and you see a UFO the size of a football field just above you, and it takes off thousands of miles an hour. It's, you know, that's. That's so insane and such a, like, departure from what we know to, you know, be reality. Right. It's got to just forever change you. And I think these people have these experiences. I think they are forever changed by them.
Colin Cowherd
Well, I've. I've told my audience this. I think once before, I had an experience years ago. I was in college. I was in a car.
I believe it was a AMC Pacer my dad had got from his friend who was a car dealer.
Dan Farah
Wow.
Colin Cowherd
And I had driven from college with Mark Fisher, who was my friend. And we were in a very rural area in Draylon, Washington. And we pulled up to my house, which had a long driveway, and I had a Frank Lloyd Wright house. I've told this once or twice before. And I saw a light above the house and it was a very rural road, so Mark was sleeping. And I said, hey, dude, look, look. What is that? It was very small, hovering right over our house, multiple lights. And as I pulled up our driveway, it shot out and up.
Dan Farah
Wow.
Colin Cowherd
And I went, okay, I'm going to take Mark home. I did. I came back. I came and my mom, she was up actually, because I'd driven from college and she wanted to make sure I was safe. I said, did you hear anything? She goes, she was British. No, darling, I didn't hear anything. I said, nothing. A humming, anything. So I always chalked it up. My town was small. We didn't have helicopters in my town. It wasn't a small plane because it hovered and then went out and up. And it was. I was thinking as I was taking the train in Chicago, I'm in LA some, but Chicago more. And I was thinking, I'm not going to waste his time with this story, but now we can, you know, kind of segue to it. As, you know, you. There have been. Aaron Rodgers has talked about this. Baker Mayfield, who I, you know, I, I didn't chide, but I sort of poked fun at him. I said, I don't want my quarterbacks talking ufo' Right? This is an adult position. But the truth is a lot of people who have nothing to gain from it have had these experiences. What I thought was really fascinating is the negative biological effects of people you interviewed of your 34 and senior intelligence officials who have come in contact with not only craft, but.
I guess I would say, lack of a better word, aliens that have had very negative physical biological effects. Take our audience there. Because that, to me, again, to say that publicly, to say it privately at a party is one thing. To say it publicly.
Is mind blowing to me. I don't remember anybody of that level ever saying that publicly.
Dan Farah
Yeah, yeah. So one of the big reveals that came out making this doc is that intelligence officials, military officials who have encountered UAP UFOs have had biological effects. Meaning being getting too close to this technology has negatively impacted them, their health, their bodies, in some cases cause cancer. And, you know, it's understandable because this is a technology that we don't fully understand and it's extremely powerful and it gives off a lot of energy. So the analogy is like, hey, if you didn't know what an F16 was, and you went and stood behind it. When it was taken off, you're going to get effed up, you know, like it's not great.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Dan Farah
And so, you know, I think what we're learning is that this technology.
Is far outside our understanding in every way. And yes, there's been a number of intelligent officials and military officials who have had severe health issues and some people have passed away from cancer that they got by being too close to UFOs. And that's a darker part of this whole truth that is coming out now and it is shocking. Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
Dan Farah is joining us. Director and Producer, Age of Disclosure. What has been interesting is since you have done this documentary, there's been other pieces of video that have run even on the network. Nightly News.
Dan Farah
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
One in particular is what appears to be a uap. I think it's Yemen. And we fire at it and the missile or the shot goes through it, bounces through it, which based on the bubble wrap theory in your documentary, is explainable. So the nightly news couldn't explain it.
Dan Farah
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
But I want you to talk about the two physicists that talked about the bubble wrap theory, because I have seen, and many people who have seen these UAPs, there is.
Almost a muted look like they're inside something. And if you could, let's talk about the bubble wrap theory. It's about a three to five minute discussion. And it really.
To me, it was a pivotal moment because a lot of these things look different. The ones I've always struggled with is the ones that appear to have a circular.
Device or a shield around them. And it was described by your physicists.
Dan Farah
Yeah. So over the years, there's been a lot of flight performance characteristics that have been observed when people see uap. They see them doing these, these, these, these performance characteristics that defy physics as we know it. Right. And a couple of the very senior scientists that I interviewed who worked on classified UAP programs for the US Government, they reveal in the film that they have figured out how this technology works, how these UAP are, are doing what they're doing. And simply put, these craft are generating a significant amount of energy and they are creating a, they're essentially warping space time. Which sounds like something out of a science fiction movie. I understand that.
Colin Cowherd
Right.
Dan Farah
But they are saying what these scientists reveal is that they are warping space time in a localized area and they're creating a bubble around the craft. And essentially the simplest way to say it is that bubble creates a barrier between the craft, the Environment the craft is in and our environment. So the laws that, you know, define what you can do, you know, with, you know, what physics allows you to do in our environment are no longer applicable. Right. So what happens in that bubble is completely different than what happens outside the bubble. So they might be moving along, having a Sunday stroll, like a leisurely flight. Right. And to us it looks like they're going at these impossible speeds. It explains everything. It explains why trans medium travel is observed. We see these craft going from space to the air to the ocean seamlessly through these separate environments, which is not something our aircraft can do. But once you understand that they're in their own space time environment, they're within this bubble, then it makes sense because the bubble and everything in it is not impacted by the environment around it. It also explains why we've had so much trouble getting these things on radar, because the way radar works is a radar emitter shoots radar at an object and then it bounces back to the radar emitter and that's how you figure out where the thing is. Right. But in this case, the radar is just bouncing around the bubble and continuing on. Right. It also explains the answer to the age old question of why is it so hard to get a good photo or video of a ufo? The simple answer is because we're taking photos and videos through a space time barrier through this bubble. It's the equivalent of trying to take pictures of fish under the ocean from above the ocean. You can't do it. No one would ever be like, hey, I'm trying to take a picture of these fish in this koi pond and it looks all blurry. Why is that happening? You'd be like, well, moron, you're taking a picture from above the water to something in the water, right? And it's the same thing here. Like you can't get a good picture of these things because we're trying to take photos through a space time barrier through this bubble that's been created. And this warp bubble is the key to that technology. And what's also extraordinary about it is, as these scientists say, this technology, this ability to generate this immense amount of energy in a localized area and create this warp bubble, it is, in their opinion, the key to interstellar travel. It's the key to basically the next chapter for humanity. It's a solution to the energy crisis. You know, they're creating immense amount of energy and they're tapping in energy that we haven't figured out how to tap into yet. Right. That could solve one of the biggest problems humanity has, the energy crisis, it could set up future generations for a much better life. And then in terms of opening a door to interstellar travel, that could just expand.
Mankind'S exploration of the galaxy, the possibilities are limitless. One of the other big, big things talked about with regardless technology is once we start.
Making this information known to academia and the scientific community, then they can put their brain power towards it. And who knows what else comes off the back of that. You know, the space race was a single mission to get to the moon. Right. But the process led to something like 35,000 other inventions coming off the back of it that have benefited us. Like things we don't even think about. Like, you know, I think Velcro and microwaves, like things we use. Right, right. And you don't know what will come off the back of something like this. So. So yeah, that, that, that sequence in the film is one of my favorite sequences of the film because the two people who speak are incredibly intelligent. They're quantum physicists. They worked as senior scientists on these classified UAP programs for the government. And they're just straight up revealing how this technology works. And, and it stated in such a simple way that you don't need to be a rocket scientist to follow it, you know, and it all makes sense and it's really inspiring.
Colin Cowherd
How has the UFO community. I would be considered a normie. Right. Like I. When I said how much I loved your film, your documentary, you know, a few people push back. Oh, now the normies are talking about it. But.
I can sense because you're getting such.
Legitimate corporate discussion, nightly news, major cable programs.
Joe Rogan has always had a great interest in this. But because you're getting so much credit and so much discourse and discussion, has there been any pushback from. You know, nobody's ever done this. Nobody's ever had 34 senior intelligence officials. And the documentary beyond that is so brilliantly made.
Dan Farah
Thank you.
Colin Cowherd
Has there been any pushback or have you been universally accepted and celebrated?
Dan Farah
Well, look, I think before the movie came out, I certainly dealt with some people who were causing problems for me behind the scenes. And there were a number of people who wish this movie didn't exist, wish I hadn't made it, wish it wouldn't get released. I overcame all that and obviously got the movie out there. I think that the response to the film has been so overwhelmingly supportive and as you said, in an unprecedented way is getting serious news coverage. And I was on Jake Tapper on cnn.
Colin Cowherd
Yes.
Dan Farah
You know, Hannity and Brett Barr on Fox. The New York Times did a big piece about a secret screening I held for Congress a couple weeks ago, how important that was. And so I think all of that is making people realize how important this is, and it's overcoming those who would want to cause problems. But there are still. There are still bad actors on social media. I'm aware of people who are paid bad actors who are actually. Yes. On social media, paid to just wake up every morning and disparage this film and the people in it.
Colin Cowherd
Yes.
Dan Farah
Take shots at it. And that's a very real thing. They're not the smoothest operators, because once you realize they're doing.
Colin Cowherd
I can tell.
Dan Farah
I mean, some of it's so obvious. You're like, no one spends this much time ragging on the same thing unless it's their job. And guess what? It is your job. You know, like, so. So. But you know what? I think the reality of it is the good guys win in the end, and, you know, the truth will prevail. And this film is 34 people, arm in arm, putting their credibility on the line to share their truth. And I think ultimately that that's. Any of these bad actors on social media just making up, disparaging negative stuff. I just think it's noise and the truth is going to win. And speaking of 34 people, the thing everyone's got to remember this day and age. You could put a 4K video of that giant craft that went over Vanderburg online, and half the human population will think it's AI. They'll be like, oh, some Hollywood producer made that with visual effects or this or that. Right. But people, credible people with amazing resumes and lots of credibility, putting their name and reputation on the line and going on camera, on the record, revealing this information. To me, that is. That is the strongest evidence you could hope for. And I think it's going to ultimately overshadow any. Any bad actors online who are, you know, saying disparaging things.
Colin Cowherd
Only 27% of the ocean is mapped. Many of these videos, these craft have been in and out of the water. There's two or three that are more prominent that I think almost everybody listening to this will have seen.
Were there discussions with any of the people that you talk to that believe that's their primary base on this planet? Or is it something they can, you know, they can activate, they can hide? Or does it go deeper than that sometimes? By the way, when you do a documentary, there's some stuff that. That may be interesting but doesn't make the cut.
Dan Farah
Yeah.
Colin Cowherd
You guys didn't spend a ton of time on the ocean. And my take is because you didn't want a six hour documentary. But in. But when you talk to these.
Intelligence officials, the 34 people, is there a sense that there are bases, a base, or there's a lot more activity in the infrequently mapped oceans that's going on?
Dan Farah
Yeah, there's an enormous amount of activity in the oceans that I've learned about. And, and yes, the only reason I didn't go deeper into the ocean is just because I had to get this, this documentary under two hours or people would kill me. But yes, so everyone I interviewed was of the same mindset and thought that the most obvious place for UAP to hide is the ocean, because the majority of our planet is the ocean and it's the easiest place to hide from humanity. On top of that, there's been a lot of activity recorded by our military intelligence community under the ocean. There have been reports of craft the size of football fields, again moving at hundreds of miles an hour under the ocean, which is not something we have the capability to do, you know, and it's extraordinary. There are definitely hotspots.
Colin Cowherd
Oh, there are.
Dan Farah
Congressman Tim Burchett actually recently talked about it publicly in an interview that there's four or five hotspots that are believed to be either maybe their bases, maybe it's just a lot of activity there. We don't know that's yet to come out. But there's a lot of activity out of the ocean. And that's also for people who haven't really looked in this topic and they hear, okay, now people are calling UFOs UAP. Why did that change happen? The primary change is UFO stood for unidentified flying object. UAP stands for unidentified Anomalous Phenomena. And that is because it covers activity under the ocean and not just in the sky. Because the things underwater are not flying. Technically, right?
Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
Dan Farah
But there is a tremendous amount of UAP activity in our oceans. And as Congressman Carson, one of the senior members of Congress in my film reveals, they have lots of reports of, of these craft coming out of the ocean. And as he says, these aren't rockets, they're not aircraft, they're otherworldly things. He literally says that on camera. And he's a very senior member of Congress. He's on the House Intelligence Committee. He was on the House Committee for the Central Intelligence Agency. Really smart, senior, thoughtful guy.
Yeah. So there's, there's a, there, there, there's a real situation and it's fascinating.
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Colin Cowherd
Has an American pilot ever been shot down?
Again, that's not something that would be reported to the public.
Dan Farah
Right.
Colin Cowherd
The stigma has worn off significantly. I mean the story about George Bush and the ranch, I remember hearing about that and I also you talk, I believe I've watched so many interviews with you and others in regards to Bush having like a meeting, a private meeting. Should we talk about this to the public? There's been suggestions Trump will but it can affect our economy. And how do you present it? But has there ever been privately not discussed, has there been a pilot shot down, a ship attacked to that level of violence?
Dan Farah
I haven't heard anything about an aircraft being shot down. There are stories of events that happened in the past of UAP.
Causing seemingly intentional biological effects. There's, there's some historical events that happened in other countries where UFOs seem to have intentional encounters with people and cause harm to them. But overall there's not a lot of those stories.
The one of the big reveals in the film, a senior intelligence official Hal put off reveals that we have actually fired missiles at uap that, that humans have. And, and obviously that's that's that's a bit of a slippery slope and.
Colin Cowherd
Right.
Dan Farah
Probably not a great idea.
Colin Cowherd
Right. The.
I'm interested, going back to the retrieval programs that our intelligence discovered that Russia had retrieved, because Russia, the United States and the US Are the three countries that we, I think we broadly believe, at least we have access to their access. If you could talk about, I think it was in the late 80s, Dan.
Yeah. Again, a Tic Tac, although larger than the one we saw on the Pentagon footage. The Russia encounter or retrieval of some note that has sort of changed their perception and perhaps created.
Their retrieval program. And their program, all these programs sound like they're being ramped up over the last 80 years. Can we talk about the Russia invasion or retrieval?
Dan Farah
Two of the two of the senior scientists who are in my film who worked on UAP programs for the government, they go on the record and say that, that the US Government is aware of retrievals in Russia of uap. And one of them specifically they hone in on was a tic Tac shaped UFO UAP that was significantly larger than the Tic Tac UAP that the Nimitz Carrier Strike Group encountered 20 years ago. The incident we know as the Tic Tac ufo. Right. So much bigger than that. And it was recovered in Russia and apparently there was a very advanced directed energy weapon in that craft. And yeah, that's alarming that that kind of technology has been in the hands of an adversarial nation since the 80s. And it's not the only time it's happened.
Colin Cowherd
The suggestion that Trump perhaps would go public with the acknowledgment of all this, what do you make of those reports?
Dan Farah
So people in the film reveal that there's been a few occasions where a sitting president has contemplated going to the microphone and telling the world the base facts that they learned that we're not alone in the universe. There's a story in the film about Bush 2 contemplating doing it. One of the intelligence officials in the film goes on the record saying he was part of a think tank that the Bush administration put together to determine whether it would be a good idea or not to go public, and that their decision was not to do it. Obviously, at the time, that was Bush 2. There's another intelligence official, very senior guy in the film, who goes on the record saying that during the first Trump administration, Trump contemplated just sharing the base facts that he had learned that we're not alone in the universe. And that Secretary Mnuchin, who was the Secretary of Treasury at the time, called this intelligence official in and asked him for a briefing on the reality of the situation. And he explains this intelligence official, he said, the reason I'm asking you is I want to be able to think about what the economic repercussions will be if President Trump decides to step to the microphone and tell the world we're not alone. And so these people in my film reveal that this almost happened a couple times. And now I do think that this film sets the stage for him to comfortably do that. I don't know if he will choose to do it. Obviously only he can make that decision. But I think this film makes it extremely clear to the average person that this is a real situation, that there's real stakes, and that the average American is owed some basic level of transparency on this from the President. And so we'll see. Time will tell if he uses this opportunity to comfortably step to the microphone and tell the world we're not alone. It would certainly be one of the biggest moments in human history if he did. But we will see. I think it's only a matter of time though, before a sitting President does decide to do that.
Colin Cowherd
Dan Farah Director of Producer Age of Disclosure I worked in Las Vegas as a sportscaster. Area 51 was understood and it was newsworthy at the time. And over the course of about a two to three year period, we had a reporter that was one of his beats, Area 51, Dan Burns, and the activity ramped up substantially over about a two year period. Then.
Stealth fighters emerged from our country. And so as Dan in some of his reporting, which was accurate, many of the triangle shaped lights seen over a two to three year period was the development of stealth. Bob Lazar made a name for himself years ago. His background has sometimes not checked out. Not a knock at Bob, but that's the reality. I looked up his Wikipedia page for the first time ever.
So Area 51 is something that gets discussed. I thought one of the and all the moments were credible. But James Clapper, who is now in his 80s, has no reason to be involved in this at all. You know, again, this is because the stigma has to a large degree died. But James Clapper came on and share it with the listeners now. Yeah, he acknowledged and I mean it was a real moment where I went, okay, timeout. James Clapper, he's been with multiple White House, multiple presidents. Was that a wow moment for them?
Dan Farah
That was a significant wow moment for me. And just for your audience, James Clapper was the Director of National Intelligence, you know, the highest level position in the Intelligence community.
He was the head of Air Force Intelligence. He was the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency and a number of other other agencies. His resume reads like a Marvel character. It is a ridiculous resume that no one else has, like, uncomparable resume and credibility and a very serious guy. And he's in his 80s. When I did the interview, he was already in his 80s. And.
At the time, to give some other color to it, at the time, his, his wife was, Was, was, was. Was battling cancer. And yes, in her, in her. In her final days. And, and despite that, and despite being an amazing, loyal husband who was like, there for her every day at the hospital, he left the hospital to come do this interview. And I really have a lot of respect for him for doing that. And he told me he thought it was important to still do it. I remember saying, hey, should we reschedule this? Should we not do this today? And he was like, no, this is important. Let's do it. And he shared what he lawfully could. And one of those big things he shared was that UAP activity over our sensitive military bases and training sites is very real and very active. Especially he said, our range is out west and the west side of the United States. And he specifically said most notably Area 51. And that's such a big statement because UAP activity, UFO activity over Area 51 is widely considered, you know, the epitome of conspiracy, right? And like, like your average person thinks, oh, that's, that's. There's nothing there, right? And here's this extremely credible intelligence official who ran Air Force intelligence saying, no, that is real. That is a real situation. UFO activity over Area 51 is real. And I remember when he said it, he. He said it so naturally. And then there was a part of me that felt like he was like, oh, why'd I say that? In other words, I felt it like, oh, that came out, but it's the truth. So it is what it is. And he kind of put his head down for a second and realized, you know, how significant what he just said was. And in that moment, I turned around to a couple other people that were in the room. Some other intelligence officials were there because they were going to do interviews with me next. And I looked at them and their jaws were on the floor because it's such a big statement from a guy like that. And yeah, I have a lot of respect for him for sharing that with us. And I think he probably felt.
A responsibility to share what he could. He also.
Colin Cowherd
Civic duty, almost.
Dan Farah
Yeah, he also shared in that interview, that despite the US Air Force saying that they haven't had an active investigation to study this stuff or investigate this stuff since the closure of Project Blue Book, which we have all heard about. You know, Project Blue Book closed in the late 70s, and the air Force has consistently taken the position, even as recent as a couple months ago, that they have not had a program to investigate UAP since then. But Jim Clapper says on camera, on the record, that when he was running Air Force Intelligence, they did in fact have a program to investigate uap. So he. He dropped some very significant statements in the film. And I think he did us all a service by opening our eyes to truth that he could share. And the thing for everyone to remember when they watch this film and they see these extraordinary statements made by credible people is this is just what they can lawfully disclose. There's a whole lot more on the other side of that line that you just have to use your imagination and think about what could be there.
And that's a pretty wild thought. I've spent a lot of time thinking about that. And if these extraordinary bombshell statements, this paradigm shift information they can lawfully disclose is so big and so significant, what the hell's on the other side of that line? What's the other stuff that they can't talk about?
Colin Cowherd
Dan? My theory would be, is they are testing the reaction. My theory is these, including James Clapper, are testing the waters. They are seeing the reaction. They're finding out that it is now publicly credible and that it's the first step of a second or a third evolution of information and disclosure. That was my takeaway watching this, which is what they're allowed to say. They're kind of putting everybody's foot in the water. There will be a second or a third evolution of this, perhaps a president. Does that seem too random and too constitutorial?
Dan Farah
That's 100% the case. I called the movie the Age of Disclosure because, as I was making.
Became clear that this film was the beginning of the age of disclosure, of a period of time in which a lot of information will come out. It's not a singular event. It's going to be a period of time where we all slowly learn the reality of the situation. And what I would suspect is on the other side of that line is events like contact events.
And technological advancements that sound like the stuff of science fiction, but that have, in fact been figured out.
Colin Cowherd
Hi, Dan.
Dan Farah
You know, I think that's where it goes, Dan.
Colin Cowherd
I mean, have you noticed the timing, about every six weeks now there's a new piece of video which, which wasn't discovered within the month. Yeah, I feel like stuff is being leaked. There's a plan about every six weeks, every eight weeks there's another piece of video, the Yemen video, I believe it was there where you see a high speed craft, we shoot at it and it goes right through its bubble or its force, its field.
Again, I'm not a conspiracy theory person, but it does feel like we're getting information parsed to us as it's almost like a guidebook. Okay, here's the big documentary, here's senior officials, here's more video. That's what it feels like to me.
Dan Farah
Yeah, look, when I was making the documentary, at some point in the process, early on I realized that this film I was making as a, as a normal person outside of this world, like trying to uncover what can lawfully be talked about and learn the truth. Somewhere in that process my film became the vehicle for people in the know to bring about disclosure. Like it became a number of these people's plan for disclosure where people who are aware of significant information and wanted to find a way to disclose to the public. They decided my film would be that vehicle. And then once that decision was made, I think a lot got.
Held for after the movie. And so the movie coming out I think is setting the table for a lot more. Coming out is the simplest way to say it. I really believe that to be true. And in some cases I know for sure to be true. I mean I know some people who are. Jay Stratton for example is in my film. Jay Stratton is the most senior intelligence official to ever investigate UAP and non human intelligent life for the US government. He did it for 16 years like a real life molder from X Files. This was his job. He was the director of the UAP task force. The largest whole of government investigation at uap. He, when he retired, he was a senior executive. He was a member of the senior executive services of the Defense Intelligence Agency to basically the civilian equivalent of a two star admiral. Extremely serious, very credible guy. He reveals in the film that he has seen non human beings and non human craft. He reveals details like there were bodies recovered at Roswell, non human bodies. He reveals where they were brought to. He reveals how he uncovered the deeply hidden crash retrieval and reverse engineering program and how they created obstacles for him trying to get to the truth. He reveals a lot of information. He's also got a book coming out early next year that's his tell all memoir where he shares even more. And then I know after the book comes out he's going to share even more after that. So a lot of these people who participate in the film are aware of so much information and they're also aware of how people digest information.
You can't tell, you can't share everything at the same time. It's just too overwhelming. And I think the film plays a really important role of establishing the lay of the land and the base facts and who's involved and why. It's complicated. It answers basic questions the average person has, like, why has this been kept secret for so long? Why, why should it now be made more public? What are the concerns we have to have? You know, all these basic questions. The lay of the land. I think this film really lays that out and you know, it's a complicated situation that's been going on for 80 years. But I'll tell you, Kyle, when I was making it, a big goal for me was to make it digestible to the aver person. And I just kept thinking of my parents who are in their mid-70s and live in Jersey and are normal middle class people. And you know, I just kept thinking, okay, at every turn making this movie, like, is the information going to be too overwhelming? It's going to be too much. Is it going to be the kind of thing where you watch it and then you can't remember any of it because there's just so much information. Right. And so it was really important for me to make this film very digestible, easy to understand. Like give the average person who doesn't know anything about the situation a clear understanding of the lay of the land. They can walk away from this film and really get it. You know, this kind of thing, you could watch this film, you could tell your friends, hey, this is what I learned. This is why we're in this situation. This is what's been going on. These are the players, this is the pros and cons of the situation. This is why we got to worry about it. These base facts. And.
I think the response I'm seeing is that that worked and it's really opening a lot of people's eyes. And so yes, I think there will be more after that. Once people understand the base facts and the lay of the land, then more can come out.
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, you definitely landed. You landed it. Dan Farah Director Producer Age of Disclosure Dan, where do I watch this? If I just popped into this and I'm not exactly sure how to view it tonight.
Dan Farah
Cool. So everyone in the world can watch the movie on Prime Video. You do not have to have a Prime subscription. You can just go to Prime Video. You can rent it, you could purchase it. It's available in every country around the world and with subtitles in every major language. So I encourage everyone to watch it and tell their friends and family and join the conversation about this issue.
Colin Cowherd
So appreciative of you taking time.
It's been really.
For me, an attitude altering documentary.
Dan Farah
Thank you.
Colin Cowherd
And I think I'm reasonably curious. I appreciate your work and your excellence and your devotion to it. And Dan, thank you so much.
Dan Farah
Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.
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Date: December 4, 2025
Guest: Dan Farah (Director/Producer of "Age of Disclosure")
In this riveting episode, Colin Cowherd sits down with Dan Farah, the director and producer of the groundbreaking documentary "Age of Disclosure," currently the #1 film on Prime Video. Their conversation delves deep into the documentary’s astounding revelations on decades-long government coverups related to UFOs/UAPs, the existence of non-human intelligence, clandestine technology retrieval and reverse-engineering programs, and the urgent call for increased public disclosure. Cowherd, a self-confessed former skeptic, explores how Farah’s work has fundamentally shifted his view, and together they unpack the implications for science, national security, and society at large.
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | | --------- | ------- | ----- | | 04:24 | Colin Cowherd | “Dan Farah has made a movie that has altered my perception of intelligence beyond our borders and beyond our capabilities…” | | 07:21 | Dan Farah | “Shocking how lined up they all were on these big truths that have been hidden from the public.” | | 10:22 | Dan Farah | “There has been a deeply hidden program … capturing and retrieving crashed UAP … for 80 years.” | | 12:02 | Dan Farah | “This is a technology race … people in my film refer to it as the Manhattan Project on steroids.” | | 18:31 | Dan Farah | “Thousands of people employed full time … the overall budget … is closer to a trillion dollars.” | | 26:36 | Dan Farah | “A giant craft the size of a football field … hovered over their heads … shot off at thousands of miles an hour.” | | 32:09 | Dan Farah | “Getting too close to this technology has negatively impacted them … in some cases caused cancer.” | | 35:24 | Dan Farah | “These craft are generating … energy and warping spacetime … creating a bubble around the craft.” | | 54:04 | Dan Farah | “There’s been occasions where the President has contemplated going to the microphone … telling the world we’re not alone.” | | 57:42 | Dan Farah | “James Clapper … said UFO activity over Area 51 is real. That’s such a big statement.” | | 62:21 | Dan Farah | “This film was the beginning of the age of disclosure … a period of time where we’ll all slowly learn the reality.” |
Where to watch:
“Age of Disclosure” is available worldwide on Prime Video, rentable/purchasable without a Prime subscription. Subtitles are available in all major languages.
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