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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Stafford > Rodgers?, Shedeur Will Start, Concerns About J.J. McCarthy, Where Does Mickelson Rank All-Time?
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Colin Cowherd
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John Middlekauff
Oh, that's tough. Jim Looks like a five trip load at least.
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Colin Cowherd
He grabs the first bag, the second bob.
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John Middlekauff
It looks like he's trying to do.
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Colin Cowherd
It all in one trip. He shimmies the door open, steps over the dog. Oh, and he stumbles.
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John Middlekauff
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Colin Cowherd
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John Middlekauff
What was the best city? What was the best and best meal?
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Colin Cowherd
Best meal was Copenhagen. New Andoua, Nu Andua, about six months old. Unbelievable. Everything was. I don't even know how to explain it. My son and I just sat there and couldn't believe how good it was. Beginning to end. I think London's amazing, but I like the activity of it. My mom's from there and Watch Hill is where I spend my summers. So now I got my clubs in Watch Hill and Chicago. So I'm starting to take golf seriously for the first time in my life. And I played like shit two days ago, but it was still. I hit just enough good shots to bring me back.
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John Middlekauff
You when you go to London, do you walk everywhere or do you kind of everywhere?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, no, I. I lost 4 pounds on my vacation and went out to eat every single night. We had one home cooked meal on the grill. But nine nights I went out to eat with my son or my wife or friends. And that's usually a recipe to put on weight. But you know, everything in Copenhagen is fish. It's that, that's a pork and fish mecca. So I strongly recommend. I don't know how many days you have to be in Copenhagen. You ever been to a place that would be a great place to live? Like Copenhagen would be amazing place to live. It's not that flashy to visit it. It's just easy and fun. But to live there, you would bike everywhere. I told somebody on the staff today I would lose 10 pounds. I'm 190. 190. 192. For the last 25 years, I would lose 10 pounds. And living in Copenhagen, I would live off coffee. Great coffee. Coffee, seafood and Biking. You bike everywhere. There's bike lanes everywhere. And it's just like part of life. It's like a small Portland, Oregon.
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John Middlekauff
Did you feel the future NFL division over there? Like, it's going to really resonate with the people.
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Colin Cowherd
Everybody in Copenhagen is from Copenhagen. They do like America. Mixed opinions on Trump, but they do like America. You know, Americans are such, I mean, the one thing you figure out pretty quickly when you go to Europe, Americans go to Europe, they pay a lot, they tip well. The Swiss and the Americans and often the Chinese have a lot of money. And, you know, European countries, you know, they, the Uber drivers and the hotel owners and the fish market owners, they make a lot of money off Americans. So every time I go over, I always ask, hey, what do you think about America? I'm not offended. And, you know, it's, you know, the people of every country are amazing sometimes. Our politicians aren't. So everywhere I go, I feel like people are great. Food's amazing. If you, if you. Have you been to London before?
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John Middlekauff
I've been to Spain, I've been to Italy, I've been to Amsterdam. I never went to London. I've never been. I've always wanted, obviously, the UK in general. Ireland is an area I love. Golf would love to go. So those are things that I need to check off the bucket list here. But when I went to, I mean, Spain, you know, Barcelona can be a little much. It's a lot going on. Yeah, it's just, it's a lot now. I was, I went when I was in my early 20s, so it was fun, but I wouldn't need to go back to that. But, you know, you go to some. I actually went for, studied abroad for like a month when I was 21 years old.
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Colin Cowherd
That's what my son just did in London. So I went over and visited him. Yeah, he had a month class.
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John Middlekauff
Yeah, it's just, it's just an awesome. Exactly. I mean, it's just, it's an incredible time. It was pretty cheap when I went. I can imagine. I don't know. What's the eu, what's the euro to dollar ratio right now? How's that ripping? Is that like one to one?
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Colin Cowherd
Not really. It's, it's, we get beat up a little bit. Our dollar is not particularly strong. But, you know, London's not cheap. Copenhagen's more reasonable. I, I, I, they're just, I just love going to Europe, so. And there's, there's a period mid May until the first week of June. The tourists aren't there yet. So you can get every hotel. They don't jack the rates up. It's not too hot. I mean I'm In Copenhagen, it's 69 degrees. I'm with my son, we went on a 3 1/2 hour bike ride. Is unbelievable. Like with just T shirts on. It was just unbelievable.
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John Middlekauff
When you're back in Rhode island in the summer, does it get like Philly or New York that humidity like that or is it.
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Colin Cowherd
No. It's funny you asked that. So yesterday was a little sticky. So what happens in the summer in Rhode island and a lot of the Northeast is. You'll get. You start with a perfect day, then the next day it's really nice with a little humidity. Then the next day it's really humid. Then a lightning storm washes it out, it's a great night. And then you go back to perfect. Really, really good, really sticky thunderstorm. It's a three or a four day cycle. So yesterday it was a little warm, it was like 72 degrees but a little sticky. But you know what I do, man, I put on a hat, a little SPF 50 and I go for a walk and get a good sweat. So I don't mind it. I'm not anti. Like Southern humidity is different than northeast humidity. Like Rhode island, you're by a beach, you're getting a cold, you know, Atlantic breeze. It doesn't bother me much. I frickin love Rhode Island. Maybe it's where we live, but I fly out of the Providence airport all the time. I love it. It's. If you told me I retired with a condo in Chicago and on the beach for four or five months in the summer in Rhode island, go to Europe for a couple of weeks. That's a good living.
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John Middlekauff
Well, how much easier is the travel now for you coming Rhode Island, Chicago? It's a lot shorter flight than coming all the way across the country.
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Colin Cowherd
The only. You know it's funny, it's. People know I've moved my operation to Chicago and a big part of it was my wife and I spending a lot of time in Rhode island in the summer. Cause we bought an old home, we fixed it up and we have really good friends there. It's close to an airport. It's also. We try to go to London or we try to go to Europe once or twice a year. So it's just easy. You forget how far LA is from everything when you live in la. It's the center of your universe. But my wife's not a big fan of Hawaii. She'd rather go to the Caribbean. So when you're in Los Angeles, you're a long way from Boston, New York, York, Europe, Miami. Like, you're a long way from stuff. I never thought about it, because when you're in la, there's no reason to do a. You know, you go to Mexico, Louisiana, Scottsdale, you got your good weather. But, you know, part of the Chicago move was just access to other places in the world and other places in the country that's easier. So. Yeah, and I don't mind taking the train. I took the train home today. It's 29 minutes. It's quick, it's fast. Head down podcast. It's great.
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John Middlekauff
I think I saw a headline. You know, I remember you telling me last year when you were talking about your place, your neighbor lady that goes by Taylor Swift, she just move, she sell that place. I think I saw that she was selling that place. But I could be wrong.
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Colin Cowherd
I never saw her. I saw Mahomes and Travis Kelsey were there. I would see occasional celebrities. I never saw her. You know, how much time would she spend there? That ERAS tour, maybe five days of summer. So I just didn't see her ever. Speaking of social lives, Aaron Rodgers got married. I saw he had a wedding ring on. And I was talking about this on FS1 today. In the last year, I've had a couple of Buddies who are GMs in the league, and one of the lines I've used in my business for a long time is, weird doesn't work. You can be. You can have an ego, you can even be a little temperamental. You can make mistakes. But if you're weird, eventually companies will move on from you. And I had a general manager tell me, I was out with him about six months ago, and he said, Aaron just got weird. And he said, and there's a story that McVeigh passed on him. Kevin O' Connell passed on him. He was the Steelers third choice. And it's. I was writing down a list today of the quarterbacks. I would take over Aaron in the league, and there were 16 of them, including, like, Bo Nix. I'm not paying Bonicks anything. He's more coachable, he's more athletic, he throws a fine ball. I. I think Aaron's just gotten to a point where I think Pittsburgh's about the only offer he had. And reportedly, according to Scheftery, was their third choice.
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John Middlekauff
Yeah, I mean, I do think it's pretty bizarre that he signs this contract, he's sporting a wedding ring. I Mean, this is. These quarterbacks, you know, who they're married to is. I mean they're pretty big stars, right? They're like actors, NBA stars. Josh Allen gets married, we all know it. Not all these guys even marry famous people like Josh Allen or Tom Brady. They're married to other famous people. Patrick Mahomes married to his high school sweetheart. Peyton Manning's married to a girl I think he dated in college. Who cares? This whole thing of like I got things going on in my personal life, which I assumed it was negative stuff. Turns out maybe he was just getting married and wanted to push this off. It's just kind of the. I've always been pro Aaron Rodgers as a player because I thought he was incredible. You know, I thought in the peak of his powers, he's one of the best athletes in terms of their sport I've ever seen in my entire life. Which is weird because when you look at the totality of his career, it almost feels underwhelming for how good he was. You know, I think he let down in the playoffs. I mean they lost a couple years ago to at home to Jimmy garoppolo and the 49ers offense. I think he scored 13 points. That can't happen. But I think this whole. Because we knew he was going to go to Pittsburgh. It was just when he was going to sign. But that picture of him with the wedding ring is just a little bizarre. I mean there's really no way around it, right? And you've been on this forever. Listen, as someone that got. I got married for the first time at 40 years old. Now there is a. And a lot of my friends and my brother got married in their late 20s, early 30s. Your life is dramatically different. You know, I mean obviously then you have kids, it is a completely different lifestyle. And he's just kind of been in this weird spot. Obviously also as a player, he's no longer the same. His mobility is gone. He's just not a dominant player anymore.
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Colin Cowherd
You can argue Tom Brady had a 20 year prime. A 20 year prime. Now even though he was really good past 40, I don't really consider it maybe 41. And then the prime ended. But he was still threw a great ball at 40.
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John Middlekauff
I'd get. I'd give him that first. That first year and a half in Tampa, I think he was pretty damn good.
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Colin Cowherd
25 people forget this. Aaron's last year in Green Bay, they played in. They played an average Lions team at home and lost. And it was Aaron. I think it was Aaron's last. Was it his last game as a.
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John Middlekauff
Packer and he got outplayed by golf in that game.
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Colin Cowherd
Thoroughly outplayed Aaron. So that year, if you go back statistically, Aaron was a B plus quarterback. He didn't play his first three years in the league. Right. He sat in the bench. His fourth year he started, he went 6 and 10. I can argue Aaron had less than a 10 year prime. I mean, because he hasn't done anything in four years. He didn't do anything the first four years. So I mean Aaron's prime was about half of Brady's.
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John Middlekauff
I'd give, I'd give him 2009 to about 2120. I mean he won the MVP in 21, 20 and 21. Yeah, about, about 10, 11 years max.
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Colin Cowherd
Think about that. Brady's at 20 and, and I. So if you really look at Peyton Manning's probably at about 14 usually, you know, I mean Mahomes, maybe one of those 17 to 18 years, Aaron just. And I think a lot of it was just Aaron. I don't think he was as committed in the off season. I, I think he wasn't. You know, I thought he was really good the year he went 6 and 10, but I didn't think he was. I just thought he was talented. He wasn't a winning quarterback. But I think a lot of that is just. I've always been one of these people. I'm not impressed by people that get jobs. I'm impressed by people that keep them. Like I think there is, there is a real skill to being LeBron James or Tom Brady or Derek Jeter and it's a commitment on nutrition, what you eat, sleep. And I think that's a skill. I think discipline's a skill. Maybe people don't. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe mental health professionals would argue that discipline is, it's not a skill.
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John Middlekauff
Anyone who says that not is a moron. From the Navy Seals to our athletes to our CEOs, what are they? 100% it's a skill.
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Colin Cowherd
And I just look at Aaron's prime, it's half of Brady and you can say what you want, but that last year in Green Bay was a B quarterback and he's gone downhill since. I mean he's just a pocket guy now and he's not even like an elite pocket guy. He's just a pocket guy.
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John Middlekauff
Well, I think when you look at his contemporaries or definitely his peers over his career, because he came in a lot later than Peyton and definitely, you know, definitely Peyton and Tom, he was way More physically gifted than those guys. Those guys couldn't run. Tom and Peyton couldn't run at all. I would say Drew Brees definitely wasn't a mobile quarterback and he just had more skills. I mean, I would say Peyton and Drew Brees are known at best average arms, right? They hung their hat on accuracy. Tom had the best arm of that trio. But those guys worked like they could get cut next year. I mean everyone you ever talked to that was around those guys, they were discussed like they were Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant or Tiger Woods. Their addiction to their craft and how much it meant to them. I do think Aaron, Aaron really benefited a lot. I mean Tom Brady goes to the Patriots who sucked, right? Him and Bill turned that thing around. Peyton went to the Colts who had the number one overall pick and Drew Brees and Sean Payton showed up to the Saints that were known as the ace. This guy went to the Green Bay packers who were a model franchise for 15 plus years before he got there. And I always think that, like listen, him and Devonte sometimes, you know, you kind of make up your own problems in your head when life's going a little too good. And it felt like those two guys, I mean they have to look back after the couple bumpy years of going, we actually had it pretty good. You know, it can be a little boring in this town but we had a lot of success here for a reason.
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Colin Cowherd
I'm looking up Aaron Drew Brees career from the first five years with the Chargers and then you know, that 15 year run or whatever it was with the Saints. If I go back to Drew Brees a smaller athlete, you can say his first great year was 2004 with the Chargers. So let me count these years. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16. I would say Brees had either 16 or 17 elite years and I think Brady's 20 plus so. And again, this isn't Bash Aaron. It's just when you go, and I've said this before, I said this before to you, if Stafford won another Super Bowl. Stafford was better in college. He was better early, he was much better later. If Stafford plays three more years and under McVeigh, they would be good. They have, I mean it's, they've got, they've got their shit rolling. If he gets one more super bowl you're going to look at Matt Stafford and you're going to look at Aaron Rodgers and you're going to have to have a real hard conversation because that means Stafford's playoff record is going to be significantly better than Aaron Rodgers, which is basically 500. People think I'm crazy when I say this. Stafford has more to gain legacy than any player in the league over the next three years.
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John Middlekauff
I will say this about Rogers. When it came to Stafford, he was one of his biggest proponents over the years. You know, when he was middling away in Detroit, he's like, you guys don't realize. And obviously the football people held him in high regard, kind of got screwed that he got drafted to this franchise that. I mean, they're going to be kids right now in Detroit that have no clue how big of a joke that franchise used to be. I. I will say I think Rogers kind of morphed a little more into like an NBA player, right? Or like receivers often act than these quarterbacks. I mean, even Tom, for a long period of time, just kind of shut his mouth, kept his head down dealing with Bill. I mean, Peyton. Would he have ever gone to Denver if they hadn't cut him in Indy and he had another neck injury? He just would have played it out forever in Indianapolis. So, yeah, I just think Aaron. And part of it might be the. The nature of that franchise. You know, you've talked about this a lot of people have over the years. There's no owner to really get involved and kind of calm everyone down. Even just the basic of like, hey, you want to take my jet with your new wife or your buddies to wherever you want. Just the, you know, the Eddie DeBartolo, Jerry Jones, the Robber Kraft, like kind of taking care of you. There's no. That guy doesn't really exist. So I honestly think that those guys, and if I was a Packer fan, we'll see how the Jordan Love stuff plays out. But it's like, God, why did these guys make such a big stink? We could have kept it rolling for a couple of years. We have a really good coach. It's like, remember when he was having at odds with Gudikens? It's like, what are you actually mad about with him? Like, what did he do? What are we talking about? And let's face it, his ego was really, really hurt with the Jordan Love draft pick. Well, looking back and there have been a lot of articles. So was Tom. And what did Tom do? Went out and said, I'm going to dominate and win Super Bowls and you're going to have to get rid of that guy, not me. Aaron kind of took the different tactic, like, screw you guys. Get rid of me. And obviously age. Let's face it. In the history of sports. Isn't Aaron's career parallel the most guys we've ever watched? Once you get to your late 30s, you get an injury popped Achilles and you're just never quite the same. And then usually you go to these weird franchises or, or in his, you know, this scenario, kind of a desperate one. I, I think they have a lot of guys from Cam Hayward to TJ to Minka that are like serious cats. This has got to be like, wait. We had to wait for you. It's. It's not like you're the greatest thing since sliced bread here, buddy.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, I, yeah, I mean, listen, I'm not this. I think this year he'll win eight or nine games. He'll have 23 touchdowns, 10 picks. He'll be fine. He'll miss a game or two. It'll, it'll. But it is interesting when you look back. I think Aaron views himself as picked on or marginalized by the media. And when you just start looking at Peyton's career and Ben's career and Breeze's career and Brady's career and Elway and Marino, you just start looking at some of these careers. Aaron's prime was just not as long. And some of that he sat behind Favre, but I thought he aged really quickly. And you can speculate why he did, but he did. NBA Finals are here. This is your last chance to bet on the NBA until next season. DraftKings sportsbook. An official betting partner of the NBA. A finals to remember. Pulling out all the stops. One team's going to be crowned champ. Who do you got winning it? Put your hoops expertise to the test. DraftKings has been the go to spot for NBA player props. That doesn't stop now. Try placing a bet in your personal MVP to drop 30 or 40. If you're ready to place your first bet, download the DraftKings sportsbook app. Takes 90 seconds. Lock in your bets. Finish the seasonal winner. Here's something special for first timers new DraftKings customers. All you have to do is bet 5 bucks. 5 bucks. You'll get 300 bucks in bonus bets if your bet wins. Don't miss it. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app. The code is Colin C O L I N. The code is Colin. Five bucks can get you 300. If your $5 bet wins only on DraftKings. The crown is yours.
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I always believe that. If you look at most NFL quarterbacks, they had even Brock Purdy, who I don't love, they had to carry their college offense. Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers, Philip Rivers, Eli Manning, you know, they're not playing with five star guys. That's why Ohio State you think would have 10 great NFL quarterbacks. C.J. stroud's their first really good one. USC's had very few great NFL quarterbacks. Alabama hasn't, LSU hasn't. Burrow obviously is, but he was a transfer. But J.J. mcCarthy, his last two years he threw the ball over 30 times. One time he never trailed. He had a great run game. And so I look at him and Ross Tucker came out with a story and I think Ross is very credible guy. I don't know him, but very credible guy. He said, listen, there's concerns. They wanted to resign. Donald Trump and I heard the same thing, but because of my relationship with Darnold, I wondered if people were telling me that my source was telling me that because they knew I loved Darnold. But they had said they actually, they actually want Sam and I couldn't believe it. I'm like, no, you got you drafted. J.J. mcCarthy, he has to play. If Ross Tucker says there's concerns, I believe that. Do you?
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John Middlekauff
Yeah. I mean, I think that going back to that Detroit game when he was really skinny on the sideline, you know, at the end of the season after meeting multiple injuries. And I also think it gets back to the way in which he played. This was not a guy that had to carry his offense in college. He handed the ball off and they played defense and they had 30 NFL guys over a two year span. Right. I mean look at Stetson. Bennett was on a team that, you know, any decent quarterback could have navigated. And I think the concerning part is you have to massage this if you're the team. So it's like, okay, Darnold gets 55 plus million guaranteed from Seattle. It's like you can't. They were like, we're not going to give him that. I think they wanted to keep Daniel Jones. Remember they made a big deal to bring him in on the practice squad last year. But then Chris Ballard starts Sniffing around, hey, we'll give you a 14, $15 million. So then they're thinking, well, how would this look if we match that or even give them a little bit more shows? Tells everyone we don't believe. So they were kind of in a weird spot. I think they would have loved, you know, Daniel Jones markets only 8 to 10. Easier to justify once you start getting. Once they gave Daniel Jones that money, like, I don't know, like where you stand on this. I think Daniel Jones can be the starter of week one. And that was before the kid hurt his. Hit his shoulder.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, yeah. No, no.
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John Middlekauff
He.
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Colin Cowherd
He was going to beat out Anthony Richardson. I.
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John Middlekauff
He's going to be the starter.
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Colin Cowherd
I had an NFL GM told me he had never. This last year, I texted him about Anthony Richardson. He goes, I've never seen an NFL quarterback that bad on accuracy, on shit out in the flat. And those were the exact words. He goes, the layup stuff is brutal. He is badly missing layups. And so I thought Daniel Jones would beat him out in camp.
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John Middlekauff
Well, to me, what it is, is a couple years ago, Trey Lance, it was over the moment they signed Sam Darnold as the two, and then Trey Lance wasn't even on the team. Might be harder to trade Anthony Richardson because of the injury, but I think this team's in a weird spot. They're all in on this roster. It's excellent. And they loaded up because they had J.J. mcCarthy's rookie contract. They bought a bunch of guys in free agency. So their team, if you told me they just had Dak Prescott was their quarterback, I'd be like, well, if he just doesn't turn it over in the postseason, this team's going to be tough. You know, you put Brock Purdy on there, super bowl favorites, right? But this guy's never started an NFL game. And even the going back to remember to Harbaugh was suspended. And the. And Sharon Moore, they didn't even pass the ball in the second half against Penn State. It was a special team that he got to, you know, orchestrate and run as a quarterback. He was not asked like most of these quarterbacks in 2025. So I'm very concerned because a lot of times also young quarterback like Caleb got drafted number one overall, it went shitty. But ultimately it's like, okay, you know, the Bears hadn't made the playoffs. The expectations for this team, they just won 14 games. They won like nine games and missed the playoffs. It would be catastrophic. It'd be a. There's a lot of pressure on A guy, I don't remember the last time a guy that was drafted this high was like expected. Anything less than the NFC Championship game, it gets to the Trey, Lance and Anthony Richardson. Obviously Trey was on a team that was expected to compete for the Super Bowl. So it's different than just going to a team typically drafting in the top five. The Colts. Same thing. Like you draft this guy in the top five, he's expected to be a playoff level quarterback. That's different than just going to some crappy team. Like ultimately Jaden Daniels, who was incredible. The pressure on them to start the year wasn't that high. Right. If they would have won six, seven games, he exceeded everything. Same thing with CJ Stroud a couple years ago. But they got to kind of sneak up on everyone. There's no sneaking up. Minnesota is, I would say, one of the marquee teams in the league coming into the year. It's a, it's a tough spot for a young player. That's like, what if week two, we're down 10 and we're going to need you to throw it 45 times and then all of a sudden Justin Jefferson's not getting the ball. We know how those wide receivers are. I wouldn't blame them. I'd be like, what's going on here?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah, no, I, I think it's a real thing. And I. And again, I was a big. Jaden Daniels, Caleb Williams, Drake May, Bo Nix. I think Penix is a bigger Tua, the one that never worked for me with JJ McCarthy. It's also interesting is what if Sam Darnold pops? What if Sam. And my guess is Sam won't be as good as he was in Minnesota. He doesn't have, you know, he doesn't have DK Metcalf and the receiving group won't be as good as Minnesota. And you're not going to have Kevin o' Connell. So Sam's numbers are not going to be the same. But I actually think Seattle's roster is okay. Probably a weaker division. What do you expect? I mean, I think Darnold will have a B season. He had an A season with an ugly ending. Bad final chapter. But that was an A season. I mean, week 15, we were talking MVP. I don't think we're talking that. I think he's going to be a better, more athletic, younger version of Geno Smith. What do you think?
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John Middlekauff
Well, Kubiak, remember early on in the season last year, before injuries really came up, the Saints looked awesome on offense. So it's like that Offense works. It's easy for quarterbacks and Sam's already done it two years ago when Kubiak, who's the offensive coordinator now in Seattle, was the quarterback coach. Offensive coordinator with Kyle in San Francisco. Their defense, little, little teaser here. I think we're going to play it next week. I had John Schneider on the podcast today. We recorded a podcast and I was looking at their roster. They actually have a lot of young, impactful guys on defense. They've drafted pretty well on defense the last couple of years. And Mike McDonald, if he coached offense instead of defense, I think we would be talking about him like a Kyle. Like they went 10 and seven last year. It's not like they won four or five games. So why couldn't they go 10 and seven again? And he's just on a capable. They're just a well run franchise, right? Schneider brings that Green Bay, McDonald from Baltimore, the Ravens, obviously the Pete Carroll influence. They're just a well run, stable operation. They're not going to suck. You know, he's not going to look completely overwhelmed. Obviously in the biggest moments it was a little concerning last year, but they're not trying to probably try to win 1450. I mean ideally they would love to, but they're going to be. I'd be stunned if they're not over.500 and it's not going to go poorly. And there's no way. What he just did last year in Minnesota, it's impossible. JJ can't do that. I mean, he's through 35 touchdowns. So my question is can he throw like 24, 25, not turn the ball over and they just have a really well rounded team like kind of like a Jimmy Garoppolo San Francisco situation of like 2019, 2021. That to me is the best case scenario. But that's, that's not easy to do, right? I mean you're in a division that's really good. Their schedule this year at the NFC north, who they're playing is really hard for all four teams. Obviously the divisional games are going to be knocked down. Drag outs. I mean one thing they really did early on with Sam is remember they were blowing people out early. Like the Texans, the Niners, they were killing people. So they just, they got to kind of got off and running. They were like 5 and 1, just kicking everyone's ass. It's a different level of pressure. The other thing is the, the health wise. I mean this is a guy that got injured in training camp and then need another surgery that's. Can he Take NFL hits. What's he going to feel like on a week in, week out basis? Can he. Is he going to be available for 17 games? I think there are just a lot of question marks when it comes to just. I think he's one of the bigger stories in the NFL. Just what is this guy? Is he any good? Is he good enough? Is. I mean, how good is he said.
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Colin Cowherd
Today the two stories in the NFL at quarterback that are fascinating are what is J.J. mcCarthy and who will win the Brown starting job because so tomorrow or the time this airs, it's mandatory minicamp. This is not voluntary ota so veterans can show up. And my argument is this. Owner Jimmy Haslam signed Johnny, drafted Johnny Manziel and Baker Mayfield and signed to Sean Watson to an egregiously bad contract. He's desperate for a star at quarterback. He wants a star at quarterback. Well, Kenny Pickett's got no juice. Dylan Gabriel's five 8. Joe Flacco's old Shadour is the only potential star. And if you look at the first five weeks, it's five top 10 offenses, then Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh and it's a lot of dynamic offenses and dynamic quarterbacks. Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson and again Tua and Mike McDaniel. There's a lot of powerful offenses. If they're dull in the first six weeks because they don't have a very good roster, they're probably a four to six win team. My take is Jimmy Haslam's going to make a call and say I want Shador Sanders. History tells me this owner, we've seen this. We saw the late, great Jim Ursay get pissed off because Carson Wentz had a bad game in Jacksonville and they shipped him out of town after a 27, 7 season, a 27 touchdown, 7 pick season. Carson Wentz, that was his last good year. I think shedeur the star power will matter in 90% of markets. It doesn't Cleveland at quarterback. It does. So my guess is there's a lot of dull, small old Shador by week eight is starting. Do you think I'm out of my mind?
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John Middlekauff
Well, you're on board. Flat. I know you've been making, you know, tongue in cheek. Flacco is going to start week one. Right. Are you on board there? Okay. If it gets to a point, the team's not going to be very good. You know, the defense can only carry you so long in the NFL. It's an offensive league now with the rules. If they force him to start Shador Sanders and the Coach doesn't want to play him. I do think Kevin Stefanski by the end of the year will just quit. It'll be one of those situations where Stefanski and Barry who are very highly thought of. And I was actually in the car today, I was listening to your show when you gave me a little shout out talking about how it was clear during the draft. Right. They draft, they overdrafted Gabriel to keep the owner off their back. And then the kid kept falling and.
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Colin Cowherd
Then he came up with that. I did.
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John Middlekauff
Bizarre.
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Colin Cowherd
I think it's true because I asked GMs about Dylan Gabriel and they're like he's not a third round draft pick.
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John Middlekauff
I thought I knew people that thought the guy was undraftable because of his size. Not, not that he's not. I mean he was an excellent college player and he, I mean very productive. But going in the third round I think was a, a jarring move for a lot of teams. Like wow. And I truly believe they did it. And if it's the visuals of the, of the owner hovering over him, but he was there in the fifth round. I do think it's. You have to make plays in practice. I mean they do have some start. You know, the Miles Garrett's and these guys that are playing every week in the NFL. It's not like the some of these other sports in baseball or basketball where you kind of go through the motions. Even if your team is out of it, you still like practice is hard, the games are hard. So if you make a guy the starter, he better be showing something, especially if he's running the scout team. I remember when Purdy became the starter when Jimmy Garoppolo and Trey Lance went down. It was easy to justify to the team because the Fred Warners and the Boses were like, we love this guy in practice. We've been seeing him. Goes back to the Rogers and some of these guys that run the scout team, they earn street cred with the team. And I do think you throw a guy like that in the coach and the GM wouldn't just be behind the scenes like what are we doing? The team could quit on you, but the owner has proven that he doesn't really care. I get asked a lot, like how can these owners be so successful in whatever line of work they do and then such bad owners. And I do. You know the thing with football that's different than just running a trucking company or Tepper and is an investing firm. You can just buy your way out of stuff. Once you get so much Capital and resources. In football, like everyone, the salary cap, salary cap, you only have a limited amount of draft picks. And once you invest in a couple guys like they do get a huge piece of your puzzle. Right. Like in Flying J, if you buy the wrong building, whatever, 10 million or I write off off to the next thing in football, like some of, like they got rid of Russell Wilson in Denver. It really crippled their cap immediately.
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Colin Cowherd
Right.
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John Middlekauff
So it's. You can't just buy your way out of stuff, regardless how much cash the owner actually has in his pocket.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, Eli Elon Musk is finding this out with government. Government's not a business. Right. Like they're. Yeah. I mean the bottom line between Medicare and Medicaid and veteran benefits and Social Security and military spending, 90% of our budget. There's not a lot of tweaking. You got about 10% of the budget you can toy with. So Elon Musk comes in and says, I'm going to get rid of 2 trillion, bro. If you can get rid of 600 million, you've done with Doge, you've done a remarkable job because so much of it's baked in. It's the same way in the NFL. You got to pay a left tackle, a quarterback, an edge rusher, at least one legitimate corner, two weapons you have to hit on draft picks. Like if you don't hit on draft picks, if you have a bad interior line, you can't pay for it. That's why, you know, Chicago now is loading up on Joe Tooney, Jonah Jackson, Drew Dolman. It's like they can't do that in two years or three years with Caleb Williams. You just have, you're just limited. There's a certain structure of our government and a certain structure in the NFL. Rich doesn't solve everything.
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John Middlekauff
Yeah. And once you, when you miss on the quarterback as they did, you're just screwed. Right. If I flip flop Joe burrow from the Bengals to the Browns and give them to Sean Watson, the Bengals are a two win team and the Browns are in the playoffs all year. Right. It can't just be that simple. And I think a guy like Jimmy Haslam clearly hasn't learned his lesson because everyone thinks that he forced to dor Sanders on them. Even I saw some visuals of David Tepper. These owners are just, it's like their pet project and they're sitting there in the draft room that they can't help themselves. And it's why the best owners, honestly, they just, you pick the player. I know nothing about football. I Just want to enjoy it, make the money. I'm empowering you. And that's the thing with the Browns. Like their GM is highly thought of around the league. I think most people think Kevin Stevanski, really sharp, impressive offensive mind. It's hard to operate with an owner hovering over you and making you do things. I also think it's a weird spot for Shador. Like his skill set doesn't have a huge arm. I think there are a couple divisions where when you have, like, look at most quarterbacks that thrive in the NFC and AFC east and the AFC north, it gets freezing cold. The wind pumps Chicago. Like Caleb Williams, Jay Cutler. You're not going to have a week. Andy Dalton's not going to have success there. Go back to New York. Eli Manning, big arm, you know, Tom Brady, it's cold, it's hard. Like, that's not to me, if he would have gone to a dome team, I think it would have been better. I do think it could be difficult playing in those environments. But I'm with you. Like, do I like him as a prospect better than Dylan Gabriel? Hell yeah. I do think though, when you get these dynamics of like, well, the coach in the GM want to do this, the owner wants to do this, things just get weird in any walk of life. I mean, in any profession. And I think that they're already the push and pull. Dion's chiming in. We haven't even started. This thing is going to once Flacco week three, they're oh, and three throws, three picks. No one's. There's not a fan in the world that's going to want to watch Joe Flacco take another snap after about September.
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Colin Cowherd
So where do you land on this? I read a story in the Athletic about Jordan Hudson and her life. I've never been bothered. She's, you know, hot girls are undefeated. She's great looking girl. Jordan Hudson. Belichick's an older guy. I'm trying to think if I. Because I'm 60, I'm thinking if I was 70 and either I was divorced or single and I still was a 74, I know he's up there, but he's still viable in his business, right? I'm not going to be that viable in 15 or 14 years. And I knew social media mattered and I was attracted to somebody. Like I get where she's sort of his social stockbroker, his social muse. Like he knows in the NFL he didn't need it. So he kept that relationship undercover in college. He looks at it and Thinks, oh, it's beneficial. I mean, he has his kids on his staff. He's got Lombardi's kid on his staff. Like, Bill takes care of who helps Bill. Like, he is very loyal to certain people. Dante Skarnicke. He would have kept him until the last day of his, you know, another eight years. Dante Skarnicki is like, I'm done. So my take is the Jordan thing is they're both using each other. She's ascending with some money and some real estate and profile. He has a social muse. And I'm sure there's a, you know, there's something physically in it for Bill. I'm not bothered by it. I mean, I'm just not bothered by it. So let's start with that. Just as a guy, a recently married guy. Has your wife talked about it? I think women are uncomfortable. I'm just not. I just. I get what it is.
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John Middlekauff
Yeah. I think her and her friends make fun of her more than him. You know, I mean, she's much closer to their age than they are to him. I saw the article today on the breakdown and the background of Jordan Hudson. I refuse to click. I'm like, I do not care. I do not. I saw a clip about how the way she grew up. Didn't she grow up in Maine or Rhode island or somewhere? And like her interactions with relationships taking advantage. Like, I. This is like an in depth profile and like a draft prospect. What are we talking about? Used to have the thing undefeated with men or the. The two things. The downfall are money and women. And he's not the first and he definitely won't be the last. A rich guy dating some young girl. I, I do think it becomes a lot more. And he's also. When it comes to coaches like in college, in the pros that are. Have side girlfriends that are, have. Are divorced and dating women way younger than them. Like, it doesn't. I don't. I truly do not care. But I. From a. I mean, look at. He used to work for Robert Kraft, whose wife died and he was immediately with someone in her 20s and they had a baby like that. So it's like, you know, obviously NFL owners who are older aren't all just happily married to other women that are their age, especially where Bill came from. But I do think the college element to North Carolina, which is, I would say blends like. Do you think a comparison to like a ucla. They're a better athletic UCLA of academics and athletics. Yeah, it's. This isn't Ole Miss. Right? This isn't Mississippi State. This isn't Arizona State. This is. This is a pretty serious institution operation. I can imagine they've been a little uncomfortable with that. But at the end of the day, when the season comes and if he's 10 and 2 and they're good, no one's going to care. And I think this got away from a little bit. I don't know, maybe I'm out of touch. I'm not that interested anymore. At first interested, the CBS interview, it was all a little bizarre. I'm not pressing. Click on any Jordan Hudson breakdowns. I truly do not care. I mean, I just don't.
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Colin Cowherd
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John Middlekauff
Oh, that's tough. Jim looks like a five trip load.
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Colin Cowherd
At least. He grabs the first bag the second bob.
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John Middlekauff
It looks like he's trying to do it all.
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Colin Cowherd
One trip. He shimmies the door open, steps over the dog. Oh, and he stumbles.
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John Middlekauff
Oh, right into the kitchen without missing a beat. Jim. Now that's a man who eats his protein packed oos with 15 grams of.
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Colin Cowherd
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John Middlekauff
Like.
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Colin Cowherd
I initially my take on live tour was why am I loyal to the pga? They don't run the Masters, they don't run the British Open. There's the pga, the usga, there's Augusta. They run a lot of second tier tournaments. And my take is I'm loyal to the NFL because the NFL encompasses all teams, all owners. It is the foundational piece of the league. Same with the NBA or Major League Baseball. The PGA essentially was a charity to get a tax break. And I was more loyal to Augusta and the U.S. open at Pebble Beach. Tiger Woods, Phil Brooks, Koepka. I was always loyal to the golfer, not the golf course or the pga. Now Augusta's different. I'm loyal to Augusta and I'm also loyal to every U.S. open at Pebble Beach. Outside of that, I'm not loyal to courses and I'm not loyal. I was never loyal to anything. So when LIV Golf entered the fray, my take was, well, if they have the more interesting golfers, I'll watch those golfers. And that's what's happened with me, is that I've seen multiple PGA events where I don't think they have a good enough field. And so as you watch this weekend, Phil Mickelson obviously had the shot of the weekend. But as, but as you watched it this weekend, what was your takeaway about the quality in the field of the live tour?
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John Middlekauff
Well, I think, I mean they have two of the best four or five players in the world. And you know, I would say Bryson has transcended through just sport to now culturally, I mean, YouTube. He's a gigantic star on YouTube as well. He's just, he's just a unique personality and he is an absolute ass kicker. I mean he's now. Rory did not play well last week in Canada. Bryson is currently the second favorite right behind at Scottie at 8 to 1 to win the US Open. He's also the defending US Open champion. John Rahm, who had not played well for like a year and a half in the majors, showed serious signs of life at the PGA against Scotty. I mean, for, for the last nine holes it felt like John Rom might win this, which would have been his third major. So they got two guys in. John Rahm and Bryson who are, when they're on, are as good as anyone not named Scotty Scheffler and honestly could go toe to toe With Scotty, I would say the thing with Phil, you know, they had a rain delay in, in D.C. and he was one shot off the lead and he threw out a tweet like, I got a 10 footer to tie for the lead. It was like fun to have Phil. I mean, he's one of. You know, I would say Bryson has become kind of the modern day Phil. He's just a unique personality that transcended. Now. Phil also had Tiger. I would say there's no one as big as Tiger with Bryson. You could argue Bryson might even be as big as. Bigger than Scotty. But Phil is just a special, unique. Everyone that follows sports knows who Phil Mickelson. And the thing with golf, you know, you just never know. The U.S. open is a tournament that Phil has never been able to win. Right. Rory just wins the Masters, completes the career Grand Slam. All these tennis players, all the top guys, they've. They win all the, the, the Grand Slam tournaments. You know, most of the top golfers of all time have won all four majors. Phil could never win the US Open even though he's finished in the tops. I think he's finished second like six times. It'd be, It'd be cool just one last time. And I think Phil mentioned his last one, this at the. Yeah. Which is, you know, kind of sad, but also, you know, you get to a certain point in golf if you're not making the cuts and you get, you know, you don't want to get your ass.
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Colin Cowherd
How do you view if we. If you. And I said greatest golfers of all time. Bobby Jones, Jack Nicklaus, Tiger Woods. I love Rory. And Arnold Palmer.
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John Middlekauff
I put Arnold Palmer.
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Colin Cowherd
There's. Then there's guys like Tom Kite who finished second a million times. Where do you put Mickelson?
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John Middlekauff
Yeah, I would say his comp. If we were doing like NFL quarterbacks would probably be Peyton Manning. He's probably one of the most important people that ever played the sport. He just happened to be at a time when there was a guy named Tiger Woods. Like, Peyton had Tom Brady and I think a lot like Peyton financial success. I mean, well, before Liv came around. Phil, remember that, that stat. Like for like 10 straight years, Tiger was the highest paid athlete and Phil was like always two or three right ahead of Kobe or LeBron. So I mean, Phil financially was crushed. It. You know, he didn't win till a little bit later. Right. He. I think he won the Masters when He was like 33, 34 years old. And then the floodgates kind of opened. He won a bunch of majors. He's definitely one of the more entertaining. I mean, it's just a fan of golf, one of the more entertaining golfers. Very relatable. I mean, at any moment, Phil could pump the thing out of bounds. I mean, some of, some of Phil's greatest moments have been like shots over fans and over trees to then tap in for birdie. It's not always just splitting the middle of the fairway and then knocking it to five feet. I think he's. I never watched Arnold Palmer, but there was an entertainment aspect to Arnold Palmer. I think Phil, when it comes to the individual sports, tennis and golf, is got to be one of the greatest entertainers of all time and personality.
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Colin Cowherd
Did you ever read the book, I thought it was great by Alan Shipnock, titled Phil the Rip Roaring Biography of Golf's Most Colorful Superstar? Did you ever read that?
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John Middlekauff
I never did.
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Colin Cowherd
Oh, my God. I think you'd love it. I cannot believe I haven't gotten this for you. You should go to Amazon or Barnes and Noble.
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John Middlekauff
I'll download it right now.
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Colin Cowherd
It's called Phil.
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John Middlekauff
I read the Billy Walters book. I mean, me and Phil have some commonalities, some of our vices. You know, we like betting on football. So I mean, I, I, I. Actually being in Arizona, I've met some guys that played with Phil and I mean, they love him. I mean, some of his college teammates are still really close to him. You know, I mean, Phil's, Phil's a pretty special. If this, if we're talking like football or basketball, this guy was a blue chip talent at like 18, 19 years old. One is an amateur on the PGA Tour. I mean, he's had one of the great careers.
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Colin Cowherd
I think he looks at the Alan Shipnuk book as a negative. I don't. I found it. You remember when they made Wall street and Oliver Stone did not want Gordon Gekko to be a hero? He built him for the audacity of Wall street and the grotesque nature of money is everything and everybody. Young stockbrokers end up idolizing wanted to be like him. And I think Phil looks at the Alan Shipnook book as a negative. I'm found it made him more relatable. Listen, between food and gambling and just personality, Phil's a lot, you know what he's like. He's like a more talented, more disciplined John Daly that he, you know, Daly just could not control himself at all. Phil has moments where he loses. He wasn't terribly disciplined, but he was so effing talented. And he Was smart. I mean, Phil's really bright. And I don't think Daly is necessarily Daly. Just a little bit of a mess, but a wildly relatable and entertaining mess. But when I read the Ship Nook book, I recommend it for everybody. I came out of there.
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John Middlekauff
I thought.
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Colin Cowherd
It made Phil likable. I wasn't bothered. It's not like Phil is trying to tell you I've always had abs. I've never bet football. Phil's never tried. In fact, I think he sort of leaned in that he's a little crazy. And I loved it.
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John Middlekauff
Yeah, I mean, I actually think you're right. I mean, Phil's qualities. And I think part of the reason Michael Jordan still to this day is so popular, you know, most people can't relate to just winning championship after championship. But, you know, Michael likes to drink, Michael likes socialize. Michael likes to party, he likes to gamble. You know, I think Phil has some of the similarities that it's like, you know, Phil does a lot of relatable things. And I think as a golfer, you know, Tiger could just be so robotic. It was like, this guy's just a lot to win. Where Phil. It's like, yeah, he could win by five, or he could double bogey, double bogey, 17 and 18 and end up losing in historic fashion. And that's. That's where I think, Rory, you know, I think kind of resonates of just like, it can go great, it can go poorly. And, you know, Bryson, I'm telling you, Colin, I think Bryson US Open this week in Oakmont is going to be a major, major factor.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. And I, yeah, I think Bryson DeChambeau did a really good job to pivot. I thought he was unlikable. You know, the 13 eggs, the 16 power shakes in the morning. It was like, bro, I don't need a bitcoin bro. Winning on the PGA Tour, just be normal. I think he's become incredibly relatable. I think he's great with fans, which I like. I always thought Tiger was a bit too aloof with fans. I think Bryson has really done as good a job as any athlete. And again, it's golf, so I don't know what his marketing company is. I think he's done as good a job as any athlete, going from unlikable to likable in a two year stretch. Like, I root for Bryson DeChambeau now. I rooted for Brooks Koepka two years ago. I still love Brooks, but I think Bryson's the better player now. Is that. That's fair.
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John Middlekauff
Oh yeah, not even close. I mean, I'd say Bryson's, I mean as we sit here today, is currently that, with Rory in shambles a little bit, currently the second best player in the world. I do think, you know, the, the live, you know, he was able to pivot. He went all in on this YouTube really kind of changed. I also think golf, it's become a little, it's definitely become more, I, I would say more in vogue. More popular athletes now play it. You know, football, basketball, people like it. But for a long time you're just very isolated. You're by yourself. It's not a team game. If you are a little quirky and weird, which I think you naturally have to be to just practice non stop. It's not like tennis where you need another person to practice with. You can just play golf by yourself. You can just practice by yourself 247 that like, even if you're a little weird, if you play football or basketball, you're going to be around other people and you'll just kind of mold into just kind of them, right? And just parts of their personality were. In golf you can just kind of stay isolated. And I think the live team element, I think the YouTube element really kind of changed. And listen, I think Bryson lightened up. You don't have to be like Tiger was, I mean, let's face it, kind of an asshole. Kobe could be. Michael could be. When you're kicking everyone's butt 24 7, 365, no one really cares. You know, Bryson would go to show up to the Masters and be like, this is a par 67 and then you see 77, it's like, Bryson, you can't be saying that. So I think he got humbled a little bit and I think he's just kind of embraced maybe the perfect timing of like social media. Boom. He just kind of knows how to play it and he's. Let's face it, you hit the ball 340, 350 yards. I mean, John Daly's still cool and he's 60 years old. I mean, part of hitting the chicks dig the long ball. I mean, guys dig the long ball. It's cool. And he's. And he does that. But he's a, but he's a great player. So I, I think he's got out of anybody, the best chance to beat Scotty this weekend at the U.S. open.
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Colin Cowherd
Great stuff. John Middlekoff former NFL scout three and out, buddy. Hit the Tito's today. It's a Tito's day.
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John Middlekauff
Well, take it easy.
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Colin Cowherd
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