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Wrong one. My man Dean Thomas the other day was on a podcast and he said this.
Daniel Cormier
We gotta understand that MMA is a star driven sport. We have a star problem in the UFC, much less the GFL than they were stars 20, 10 years ago. Like, how do they expect 50, 50 split revenue and you don't even know what the revenue is going to be. It's like the PFL France. It's like they gave him all this money and then now they can't afford apparently to pay the rest of their fight. They didn't. Those stars, they got Dakota De Cha, who's a star, she's legit. I'm like, yo, if you guys like mma, do this for mma. Trade her to the ufc. You know, she belongs in the ufc. Listen, get rid of an alive in the UFC trader for an. We don't need an Al. You know what I'm saying? He's not getting the title. We don't need this guy. An will fit right in at the pfl. Another guy that no one knows about. That's really good.
Dean Thomas
Dean, you're talking about the light heavyweight champion, Magomod Ankalaev, and you're talking about Dakota, who fights in pfl. Dean, it would take a blind man to know. To not know that you're looking at a star. When you look at the chova, his name did a cova. What's her name? Dichova.
Daniel Cormier
Dicheva. Dicheva.
Dean Thomas
It would take a blind man to not know that. To not know that you're looking at a star. But, Dean, a UFC light heavyweight champion, there has to be something that was lost in translation when you made that statement. Please tell me that.
Daniel Cormier
All right, so first off, let me say this. I've been saying this for two years. I said this for. I've been saying this for two years that they needed to make that trade about uncle life. Yes.
Dean Thomas
Why?
Daniel Cormier
When Uncle I was running around trying to get fights, begging for fights, I said trade his ass to the PFL where he can go win a million dollars. And that. So that's what I was saying. So the clip that we just heard was actually a year ago. Shut up, D. It was a year ago where he was still begging for fights. And I was like, yo, just trade him to the PFL because he could make a million dollars there, he'd win the tournaments there and we could use Dakota. Now here's the thing. So I went back, I went back after this thing blew up. I'm surprised, conveniently brought it out. Now when he's defending, he's a champion.
Dean Thomas
He'S about to fight for a world title. So of course this is the perfect.
Daniel Cormier
Time for them to bring it out now. But I went back and not only am I doubling down, I'm tripling down. And I'm still saying that it would be a better.
Dean Thomas
Out of here. Dean, I am triple down.
Daniel Cormier
Dakota DiCheva, she is 150 with an 80 knockout rate. If you don't think that the UFC could make her a star, a big one of the biggest stars in all of mma. A blonde headed girl next door, a pretty girl that has an 80 knockout rate. She would be the biggest star in the ufc. They would do with her the way they did Rhonda, the way they tried Harley Holm, the way they tried to transant Dean.
Dean Thomas
You're going crazy. You're going crazy. Dude, you said Ronda Rousey.
Daniel Cormier
Yes, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. The way they try. The way they tried to market Sean o', Malley, because Sean o' Malley was a kid who no one thought could would be anything, and he's out there knocking people out. The public loves that. They love. When you can take an unassuming looking person, a person like Dakota, who. Who looks like the girl next door. She's a pretty girl with an 80% knockout rate. She would be a massive star in the ufc.
Dean Thomas
Until she gets to the UFC in the knockout. Stop, Dean. Until she gets to the UFC in the level of competition, what makes you.
Daniel Cormier
Think the knockouts will stop? She fought T. Santos, who arguably beat Valentina Chevchenko.
Dean Thomas
She knocked her out. You know, MMA math does not work, Dean. You know that. You don't know that, Dean. You know that does not work. The fact that you come up here with this bs, Dean, and the fact that you're tripling down.
Daniel Cormier
I'm tripling down on it.
Dean Thomas
The competition level raises and then the knockout stop, and then you got another person. First off, don't ever say Ronda Rousey again because you couldn't recreate Ronda Rousey. You can't recreate Conor McGregor. You can't do what you did the first time again. Then you know that I know.
Daniel Cormier
So I'm making the analogy that. That she's a pretty girl that has a finishing ability. She has a finishing ability. So I'm making that analogy that they could create a star based on that.
Dean Thomas
But, Dean, you know how they always. You catch lightning in the bottle. That happens once. There's only going to be ever one Ronda Rousey. Any dude. If Valentina Shevchenko has not rose to that level of stardom, no one will because she's won as much as anybody in the world. Even Amanda, bro, when she was winning all those fights, never rose to that level of stardom.
Daniel Cormier
But I'm telling you that I think Dakota. Jeva. Jeva could have. I think she could have. I'm not sure it'll happen now because UFC probably will never get her. But I'm still tripling down on it.
Dean Thomas
And I'm saying Mag on Kyiv. I'm taking him every day, all day. Give me a world champion male fighter. I don't care where he's from, over someone that is fighting in a different organization, that we don't know that it translates. But I think this young lady is phenomenal. I just think that Dean Thomas has completely lost his mind. And this is why we may get Canceled round two. Charles Oliveradin was supposed to fight Rafael Fazeev in Brazil. I was very, very hard on the decision to. To do that. After Charles got knocked out, Fiziev falls off of the fight card. Charles Oliveira now needs an opponent. Matthias Gamrot said he's ready to fight Charles Oliveira. Diego Lopez has said he would go up and he would fight Charles Oliveira, but Charles said he doesn't want Gamrot. He doesn't want a wrestler. He's been preparing for a striker. But, Dean, Charles also said earlier, don't buy into the idea that these guys are all itching for a fight because they've been offered it and they won't take it. If you're Charles Oliveira, Dean, are you in a position now where you just have to take any fight? And if Mateus Gamrot is the guy, Matthias Gamrot is the guy. Even though Charles goes, I don't really want to fight a wrestler, you gotta.
Daniel Cormier
He gotta double. He gotta back down on that. He's got to back those statements. I mean, backtrack those statements. Because after coming out and criticizing the entire division for not stepping up after he said that, he's got to accept whoever they put in front of him. You can't make those statements and then be like, nah, I don't want to fight this guy. This is a guy who said he would fight you. And then he. And then he said yes, and now you can't say no to him.
Dean Thomas
That's bad, D. That's bad. And I love Charles, but that's bad, Dean.
Daniel Cormier
That's bad. You can't do that, Charles.
Dean Thomas
You can't do that, Charles. You can't do it. I think that you got to hope that Diego Lopez somehow gets the call, because obviously Diego Lopez would not be trying to take him down. Gamrot. That's all he would be trying to do. Charles just said, dean, it's bad. I'm not disagreeing, but Charles just said I'd have to change my entire game plan. I've been preparing for a striker in Fiziev to go and fight a guy like Gamrot who's wrestling as much. I'd have to change everything, and I don't really want to do that.
Daniel Cormier
Well, the problem is he was like, it's not a good look. He was telling all these guys, it's not a good look. Well, Charles, this is not a good look. Like, you can't criticize these guys for not accepting fights, and then you not accept the fight. Like, if you go and preach it. You got to practice it. So he got to step up and take this fight.
Dean Thomas
I think he has to take the fight if that's the fight that's offered. I believe there are some better options, though. I think maybe you look at a Moicano, you look at a Diego Lopez, because Diego Lopez has nothing to lose. Here's the problem with the Diego Lopez fight. He just had that big win at Noche ufc. So that dude's riding hot. Dude's riding hot. I would prefer Oliveira to get a fight that is more suited for him, a fight with someone who isn't as dangerous to catch him because he got knocked out so bad last time. Look, I like the Moicano fight. I like the idea of it because you got two Brazilians fighting in Rio de Janeiro, and Charles is the guy that the Brazilian people love. So you give him an opportunity to have a great moment. But what you do know about Gamrot is Gamrod doesn't have the massive power. So, you know, you run the risk, or less of a risk, of getting knocked out, and you're Charles Oliveira. If he takes you down, he's in more danger than he ever could have imagined.
Daniel Cormier
Take the fight, Charles. Take the fight. It's a perfect fight for you. Now, here's what I think. That's going to have to happen. If he doesn't accept this fight, he might have to fight somebody at a catch weight. Now, I know the UFC doesn't like to do catch weights, but it might have to happen because I'm not sure that there's many guys, and that's probably the reason why most of these guys won't accept the fight, is because they don't want to have to cut all the way down to 155. Moicano probably can't make 55 on such short notice, so he's gonna have to fight him at a catch weight. If that's the case, you got to take that fight, then. But that's what he was complaining about before, was the fact that he would. These guys didn't work because of probably the catch weight. So at some level, Charles Oliveira is going to have to concede to one of the ideas.
Dean Thomas
Yeah, he'll have to concede to something. But at the end of the day, I still believe that regardless of what fight it is, it's less dangerous than the Fazia fight. Right, because the Fazia fight in this moment is very dangerous for him. But I got to be honest, man, we got. I'm so done doubting Charles Oliveira. I'VE seen him time and time again just beat people in situations that he wasn't supposed to win. I've seen Charles Oliveira elevate himself to become a world champion when no one thought that was possible. I've seen Charles Oliveira overcome and become a real star in mixed martial arts. So I believe that regardless of who it is, it's a must see event because of who Du Bronx is. But Charles, take the fight. Round three, Dino. Amen. I first off, after watching Bud fight Canelo, which was a good fight, I realized more and more that MMA is just a much funner sport. I know we didn't have the name recognition on Noche ufc, but I just had a much better time watching the MMA fights opposed to the boxing fights. And that was one of the best fights that we could have had in terms of two stars in their primes relatively. And on the biggest moments. And it wasn't a boring fight, but MMA was just much more fun. So at times, Dean Boxing gets ridiculous. But Javante Davis is fighting Jake Paul. Yesterday they had their first press conference. One of the most recognizable things is Jake Paul is huge compared to Gervonte Davis. And two, Gervonta Davis don't even know what weight they fighting.
Daniel Cormier
D.C. i watched this and we have our priorities way misplaced when we're talking about boxing. Like, everybody's complaining about this. Ali acting up. Like, how is something like this allowed to happen? How. How is Jake Paul allowed to fight Javante Davis? It's completely unfair. It is completely just. It's. I, I don't. I can't say the word that I want to say because I don't want to get canceled. But this fight should not be happening. And the press conference was embarrassing. Javante Davis should not have a mic in front of him. It was absolutely embarrassing watching this thing see.
Dean Thomas
Why, Why D. Just the fact that.
Daniel Cormier
Like every time when, when Jake Paul would say something to Javonte Davis, he didn't know how to answer it. He was com. He was comparing himself to like P. Diddy at moments. And I was like, oh my God, get them. Get a mic away from this guy. This fight shouldn't be happening. And then he didn't even know what weight they were fighting.195.
Dean Thomas
That was the craziest thing. That was the thing that stood out to me the most was that when they go the rehydration limit or something is 195. And he goes, wait, I thought it was 190. Dean. That's bad because, you know what that tells me. That tells me that even he recognizes that he's too big for him. Yes, he recognizes that he's too big for him.
Daniel Cormier
I'm wondering how this even came about. It can't be that Javante Davis needs money. That can't be the reason why he's.
Dean Thomas
Taking champion so recently. How could he be broke?
Daniel Cormier
That's what I'm saying. Like, is it. Is he doing this for money? And then why and how is even Jake Paul doing this when no one respects it? Like, I can't think of anybody that respects this.
Dean Thomas
But Jake Paul has been able to carve out and make his own lane in boxing, and I've never seen anything like it, bro. He literally. I mean, we don't know what weight class he fights in any situation. We just don't know. He kind of makes his own rules. He makes his own rules and it seems like people are playing by those rules. I remember a couple weeks ago, the WBC and the Suleiman. Jose Suleiman was very upset that he wasn't able to put the belt on the winner at Canelo vs. Crawford. That's the thing that's happened since the beginning of time. Those guys are very powerful in boxing, but with Zufa boxing, it was almost like that power was getting stripped away. They were very disappointed. But how can you take those sanctioning organizations seriously when they are sanctioning this?
Daniel Cormier
That's my point. That's my point. That's why I think that this whole thing that we have this boxing and this MMA argument and Zufa getting into boxing, our argument is misplaced because things like this should not be happening. And the fact that boxing is allowing this to happen is an embarrassment to the sport.
Dean Thomas
Yeah, I don't understand why I. I talked about this before. Like, I didn't know why they were fighting because, I mean, Javante Davis's last fight was at 136 pounds. Jake Paul, seriously, his last fight was at 136 pounds.
Daniel Cormier
And we know in D.C. we know.
Dean Thomas
Boxers don't cut weight like MMA, not like MMA fighters. No, they. Bro, when I hear the boxing broadcast, he put off seven pounds yesterday. I'm like, bro, seven pounds, man.
Daniel Cormier
They said that about Canelo. They was like, Canelo put on like 10 pounds. I was like, 10 pounds, bro. I know, dude, to put on 10 pounds the first hour after the weigh in, bro.
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Pereira is 238lbs and he's two weeks from the fight. I mean, come on, guys, let's not make this happen. This is Absolutely ridiculous. All right, guys, we're extremely excited to announce our new partner and sponsor, Hard Rock bet. So everybody knows and loves the Hard Rock hotels and casinos, but now you can use the top rated Hard Rock Bet sportsbook to place your bets all NFL season and beyond. Hard Rock Bet is the only legal sports book in the state of Florida and is also available in Arizona, Ohio, New Jersey, Indiana, Tennessee, Virginia, Illinois and Colorado, with many more states launching all the time. You can also play on Hard Rock Bets Online casino if and only if you're in New Jersey as we gear up for the NFL season, go to Hard Rock Bet sign up, make a $5 bet. You'll get $150 in bonus bets. If you win again, head over to Hard Rock Bet sign up, make your first deposit today. Payable and bonus bets is not a cash offer offered by the Seminole Tribe of Florida in Florida, offered by Seminole hard Rock Digital LLC in all other states. You must be 21 or older and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee or Virginia. To play. Terms and conditions apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida? Call 1888 A D M I T I T in Indiana. If you are someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-800-9 with it. And if you have a gambling problem.
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Dean Thomas
And now for my final thought. Guys, we have done a lot of things here at dctv. Tomorrow I premiere my new show, the Daniel Cormier show where I will sit down with fighters long form so it's not just a check in where we talk about the fight, we talk about life, we talk about hardships, the good times, the bad times, relationships and so many other things. My first guest is none other than Merab Dualish Willie, the bantamweight champion of the world. We spoke about his upbringing in Georgia, how he came to the United States with nothing, didn't speak the language, getting misguided by people in this country to ultimately finding a home with Ray Longo and Team Sarah Longo and now training in Las Vegas where he defends his championship next week. Merab is fun. Merab is funny. Rob also has a great story. I will try to tell those stories. I help the fighters and not only fighters, athletes, people in the public eye tell their stories to you so that you can get to know them better. Don't miss the Daniel Cormier show premiere tomorrow at 5pm Eastern right here at my YouTube channel we get to know Marab a little better and I tell you man, he is as interesting as you thought if not more. Guys, until next time. Thank you guys for watching three rounds. I appreciate your love and support. Dean, thanks for joining again my friend and we'll catch you on the next one.
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Episode: Daniel Cormier TV - DC on INSANE Jake Paul vs. Tank Davis presser, Charles Oliveira's fight, Dakota Ditcheva
Release Date: September 24, 2025
Hosts: Daniel Cormier & Dean Thomas
This episode of “Three Rounds with Daniel Cormier” features Daniel Cormier and Dean Thomas delivering lively and opinionated takes on three main MMA and boxing topics: the status of MMA stardom and Dakota Ditcheva’s star potential, the fight booking saga surrounding Charles Oliveira, and a scathing analysis of the Jake Paul vs. Gervonte “Tank” Davis press conference. The conversation blends humor, strong opinions, debate, and insider perspective, delivering engaging commentary for fight fans.
The Star Problem in MMA
Dakota Ditcheva’s Crossover Potential
Debate Over Trading Magomed Ankalaev
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Fight Booking Chaos
Holding Fighters Accountable
Strategic Preferences
Catchweight Considerations
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Press Conference Fallout
Weight Class Absurdity
Jake Paul’s Rule-Bending Brand
Boxing’s Lax Standards and Critique of the Sanctioning Bodies
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On Star Power and Ditcheva:
On Oliveira’s Fight Choices:
On Jake Paul vs. Davis Press Conference:
Summary Useful For:
Anyone curious about current storylines in combat sports, fighter promotion and matchmaking drama, and the intersection of spectacle and legitimacy in boxing and MMA. The episode offers both recap and critical context for ongoing debates in the sports.