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FantasyPros - Fantasy Football Sleepers That Will BLOW UP in 2025 (Ep. 1615)
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Sarah Spain
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Joey P
Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is the Fantasy Football Podcast. It is me, Joey P, Joe P. Zia and today we're gonna take a quick look at some breakouts, some guys that are going to be sleepers who could blow up in 2025. These are not the sexiest names on the board necessarily, but they are names that could help you win a fantasy league. And I've got two other names that can help you win as well. Terrell Fuhrman Jr. My boy from Betting Pros and and also my Patty Cakes, Pat Fitz Morris. The boys have compiled a list here to help you find some of those deeper stashes in your fantasy drafts that are upcoming in just the weeks ahead. Before we get to those names, don't forget, use the Cheat Sheet creator and all the tools here along with us on the podcast to help you crush all of your competition. Because the Cheat Sheet creator is here for you. And I'll tell you what. Fantasy prose.com sheet you can customize your board and make sure that you're getting all of the names you can pick your favorite experts. You could do it all and do a hybrid of all those things for sleepers, breakouts and more. Sync your leagues for free. Customize your rankings. Use all the tools over Fantasy Pros. Download the Fantasy Football Draft wizard app today@fantasypros.com sheet that's the place to go to make your customized draft sheet. All right, Pat Fitz Morris, let's start with you here. We're going to start with. I can't believe it. The Packer guy is starting with a Chicago Bear. But let's start with a guy in that backfield that you think people should pay attention to.
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Pat Fitz Morris
Roshan Johnson and why. Yes, Joe, I am interested in a running back who averaged 2.7 yards per carry last season. I'm giving Roshan a Mulligan for 2024. Chicago's offensive line was a mess, especially inside, which hurts a running Back like Roshan, who conducts a lot of his business between the tackles. Bears ranked 31st in the run blocking metric adjusted line yards. Only the Dolphins were worse. Roshan averaged 1.5 yards before contact per carry, which ranked outside the top 100among running backs. But the Bears have pretty much fixed the interior of their offensive line. They signed Joe Thuney, Chris Dman and Jonah Jackson. That's a pretty impressive overhaul. And what what really has me most interested in Roshan though is the possibility that he becomes the discount David Montgomery in Ben Johnson's offense. Montgomery has 25 rushing touchdowns and 28 regular season games over the last two years. Roshan's a big dude, 225 pounds. That's 20 pounds heavier than DeAndre Swift. There's a good chance Roshan is the Bears goal lineback this year. And Roshan isn't just a one trick pony. He's pretty good pass catcher, had 34 catches as a rookie. He's a good enough athlete that he made Bruce Feldman's 2022 Freaks List. Back when Roshan was playing behind Bijan Robinson at Texas, he was right behind then Oregon cornerback Christian Gonzalez on the list. So Roshan actually enrolled at Texas as a dual threat quarterback. So. And let's look at Chicago's other running backs. DeAndre Swift, dead last in the NFL and rushing yards over expected per carry. Last season he was Underwater at negative 0.69 yards per carry over expected. Then there's rookie seventh rounder Kyle Menangai. I know you like him Joe. I like him too. But the profile prospect is a little sus. I mean he's an undersized running back who doesn't catch passes and didn't go until the final round of the draft. So Roshan is a pretty compelling deep sleep.
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Joey P
I don't disagree. I like to pay attention when new coaches come in and start to pick their own guys and manan guy to me feels like it could be the Montgomery goal line back in this offense which could be huge. Now look, I don't love DeAndre Swift so I think there's room for Roshan Emanon guy, all of our guys basically to eat there in that Chicago backfield. I want to take a trip to Denver on a plane with Terrell and talk about our next guy here. It's a wide receiver on the Broncos that Terrell thinks could have a breakout season. What is the name? Tyler?
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Terrell Fuhrman Jr.
Oh yeah, Marvin Mims Jr. I think it's going to be a year because I think the Broncos offense is Going to be way better all the way around. This is year two with a rookie first year QB and the same head coach and a lot of first year QB, second year QBs. Can't say they're going into that second, third year with the same head coach. And here he is. He, this is Sean Payton's guy and he's going to coddle him. I said it all last season and this didn't change. Joe, you thought that just because we're in a new season has changed. No. He is cuddling little like a baby and giving him everything he needs. And what he gave him at the end of the last season was Marvin Mims. Marvin Mims Week 11 on wide receiver 23 in fantasy and I think yes, he had a lot of touchdowns in that stretch. We can't sit here and say that we can predict touchdowns all the time, but he has the target share. He, he saw a target on 30% of his routes run at that point in time. And I think it can only get better with another year in the offense. And I know Pat Bryant is out there. All the Pats, they're getting on my nerves now. I know he is out there. I know Pat Brian's out there. But he's still going to be a first year wide receiver. And regardless, it takes time to escalate. It takes time to get those guys comfortable in the system. So I think Marvin Mims is going to be way better than wide receiver 49, a 59.
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Joey P
I'm sure Terrell still loves you. You're not a Pat that gets on anybody's nerves. By the way, Marvin going around wide receiver 57 right now currently, that's kind of his MO. That's a pretty darn good value for a guy in that offense. Could take a real step forward this season, that's for sure. All right, Pat, back to you. Let's go with a running back now in Cleveland that you think might have a bigger opportunity. Perhaps this is based on some recent events or maybe just the fact that we like this talent. We just didn't love the landing spot at first. But it doesn't mean that Dylan Sampson can't necessarily still make some progress in his rookie season.
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Pat Fitz Morris
Yeah, it's a little of both factors, Joe. I mean going into the NFL draft this year I had Dylan Sampson ranked RB6among the running back prospects. He was my favorite guy behind the big five of Ashton Genty Omari and Hampton Trayveon Henderson, Quinshon Judkins and Caleb Johnson. Sampson has just great lateral agility. Really good contact balance for a 200 pound running back. And he plays much faster than his 4.5 40 time. He's also really smart, patient runner, and he catches passes. The problem was that Sampson was a fourth run pick of the Cleveland Browns who had already selected Quinte John Judkins in the second round and also have Jerome Ford on the roster. Well, Quinshon is now facing some legal difficulties, which might give Sampson a little bit of daylight in this crowded backfield. And I know that during their minicamp, Deuce Staley, the Browns running backs coach, said that he wanted to use Sampson as a running back and as a receiver who can move around the formation. So that could bode pretty well for Sampson's usage this year. I just know the Cleveland RB situation is pretty ambiguous, but that ambiguity is giving us a really nice discount on a talented young rookie. So I'm happy to bet on Sampson's talent and grab him with one of my final draft picks.
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Joey P
Pat, just basically in the same round almost. I mean, Jerome ford is at RB56, Sampson's at RB60. Would you take Sampson this the younger back here? Yeah.
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Pat Fitz Morris
I mean, it's close, but I think there's a little more upside with Sampson. Like, we've seen what Ford is. I don't think Ford is good enough to dispatch the young guys in that backfield, but there's a chance Sampson is so good that they just say, okay, we're playing this guy over Ford and Judkins.
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Joey P
Fair enough. All right, back to you, Terrell, and let's start with another wide receiver on your list. Joshua Palmer finds himself in a new spot. So why could this be different for his fantasy value this season?
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Terrell Fuhrman Jr.
Oh, yeah. I mean, it's kind of similar to the Darnell Mooney call I had last year of a proven wide receiver that may have not had the best situation moving on to a good spot for them. And Joshua Palmer, while his numbers really don't glare off the page for you at all, if you watch the tape and you look at him, he gets separation. And that's the thing that they need in Buffalo. They need wide receivers that can get separation and be open. I don't think that there's a clear cut. Number one, some people will say it's Shakir. Other people feel like Keon Coleman is going to make a huge step and he's going to be the number one in this offense. I'm sitting here saying, I think Palmer's gonna have a role. They didn't bring him in for nothing. He signed a three year, 36 million dollar deal with the Bills. He's in the long term plans for them. You look at what he does in terms of separation last year and he was 16th in separ and 12th in route win rate. So I think that this is another spot where we have another veteran wide receiver going to play with the talented quarterback and he's just going to be somebody that he's like, oh wait, I can trust this guy. He can get open multiple times. So wide receiver 69, that's way too low. That's way too low. He doesn't have to go out here and be a top 10 wide receiver for him to outperform wide receiver 69. So I think Josh Palmer is going to have a great year.
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Joey P
Do you have to be a Keon Coleman fader to be interested in Josh Palmer?
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Terrell Fuhrman Jr.
Yes.
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Joey P
Okay. Because that feels like that might have to be the case there. And I know some people still are not sold on Keon Coleman. It's one of the big debates this off season. I know Terrell is not. Pat, I feel like you are a Keon Coleman.
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Pat Fitz Morris
I'm a Keon guy.
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Joey P
You're a Keon guy. And I think what was so interesting about it, I heard an interview with him where, you know, they asked him, what did you do, you know, last this off season when, you know, you're watching tape. He then he said, I have to improve on everything. He was just saying none of it was good enough. Which is great, that he kind of recognized that. And you got to love the kids. Just whether or not he can improve on it, that's a different question. As Terrell pointed out too, the ADP for Palmer is basically free. So free is always a nice investment. All right, we got two more names here. We're going to get to. One is a wide receiver going back to the Carolina Panthers for this one. This kid had some moments last season. Pat, let's talk about Jalen Coker, because now all of a sudden it is a very crowded room. Ted McMillan is there. You have Xavier Leggett, you have Adam Thielen, the ageless wonder still hovering around. So where does Coker fit into all of this?
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Pat Fitz Morris
Yeah, I mean, there is target competition, Joe, but like not a lot of high level target competition. It's not like he has to contend with Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison. The Panthers obviously expect Tea to play a big role right away. But then it's Xavier Leggett who, let's face it, was pretty terrible as a rookie last year, and Adam Thielen who's going to be 35 next month. I think Moses had Adam Thielen on his fantasy team back in biblical times. And then Carolina's tight ends don't really catch many passes. So our colleague Derek Brown was an early Jalen Coker enthusiast. And as much as I hate to admit it, I think Debro might be right about this. Like, in fact, I'm gonna use some. Some of the same numbers.
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Joey P
Please, nobody tag him on the YouTube comments.
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Pat Fitz Morris
I know we don't want to.
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Joey P
Don't.
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Pat Fitz Morris
We don't want to inflate his ego. Yeah, I'm gonna use some of DBRO's numbers to make the case for Coker. There were six games last season where Coker played at least two thirds of the offensive snaps for the Panthers. And Bryce Young was the Panthers starting quarterback. Coker averaged 55.7 receiving yards per game, 11.4 PPR fantasy points per game, and 1.89 yards per route run in those six contests. So, yeah, I mean, I. I think this guy is sneaky good and I like him as a late round flyer. I think there is a path to targets, maybe multiple pass to targets since this is not a, I don't know, not a world beating wide receiver core that he has to deal with.
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Joey P
Yeah, Coker's actually a guy that I picked up in a couple deeper leagues last year and I picked up in Dynasty 2 because I do like the player. And I think much to my chagrin as well, DBRO might have been right about this one. So I'm. I'm fascinated to see Bryce Young take another step forward this season too, because I think if you're paying attention last year, it's something we keep driving home on the betting shows. If you haven't seen those, go subscribe to Betting pros. We've been talking about a lot of the recaps from last year, the offseason, and, you know, prepping for this year and looking at win totals and whatnot. That was a team that covered a lot of games. Defense is still bad, which means the offense still has to push the football. So a lot of positive things there's potentially for Jalen Coker and for the Panthers. Good head coach, too. All right, give us one more name here. And Terrell, I guess you're trying to get my good graces here because he chose a Patriot.
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Terrell Fuhrman Jr.
Yeah, I did. And even though I may not be the highest Drake May guy here on the show, but Hunter Henry. Hunter Henry. Here we go again. Do you have y' all played Grand Theft Auto and you had C.J. and he's like, oh man, here we go again. That's what I feel with Hunter Henry every single time. 2023 joins the Patriots. ADP is tight end 30 that season. He finished in weeks one through 15 before he went down with injury. For the rest of the season, 1 through 15, he finishes tight end 13. 2024. ADP tight end 22. Okay, the people are learning a little bit. He finishes tight end 12 on the season. Last year in Drake Mace full starts, he had a 19.2 target share, 49.9 yards per game and 11.3 fantasy points per game in full PPR. I mean, he's been great. And now he's tight in 19. Clearly we see his. His ceiling. The or the floor, if that is the floor is Titan 12, Titan 13. He is a number one tight end and he's going all the way dirt cheap in the back of the rounds. If you just want to fade tight end and just punt tight end, go get Hunter Henry. Because Hunter Henry is good every single year. And I'm not afraid of Stefan Diggs. I'm not afraid of whatever else that Vrabo has cooking up over there with the Patriots. I think Hunter Henry is here to say it.
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Joey P
You know, it's interesting, Terrell, because like Tyler Warren, great talent. I'm just completely not sold yet on the situation. Being a good one for him as a rookie tight end, they're going, you know, not that far away from each other. Would you rather have the side of the talent of. Okay, there you go.
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Terrell Fuhrman Jr.
That's the guy.
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Joey P
How about for you? Same. Same answer. Would you take the floor of Hunter Henry or whatever the upside is of Tyler Warren or if you just take both and stash them in and see what happens?
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Pat Fitz Morris
Yeah, I mean, I do agree with a lot of what Terrell is saying about Hunter Henry, but I would take Tyler Warren just for the. The sheer possibilities. The upside.
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Joey P
All right, drop your comments below. Who would you rather have, Hunter Henry or Tyler Warren? Drop your comments in the chat. We love to hear from you here on our YouTube. Don't forget to subscribe to our YouTube of fantasy pros trying to get to 300000 subscribers this year. We could do it with your help. So subscribe. Ring the bell till it goes ding. So you never miss a piece of content here on the channel and subscribe. And like this video on the way out, it's easy to do. Boom. Just click that little thumbs up. That's all you got to do. That'll do it for us, but the story of the game goes on. For Terrell and Pat, I'm Joey P. We'll see you next time, kids.
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Sarah Spain
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