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FantasyPros - Fantasy Football Takeaways: Fact or Fiction + Week 4 Waiver Wire & Trade Advice | Out of Bounds (Ep. 1726)
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This is an iHeart podcast. Hey guys, let me tell you about the easiest catch you'll ever make. FishingBooker.com with top rated fishing guides across the world, verified reviews, seamless booking and 247 support, FishingBooker makes it easy to plan the perfect fishing trip. So whether you're chasing trophy fish, watching your kid reel in their first catch, or just taking in the sunrise on the water, Fishing Booker makes it happen. These aren't just daydreams, they're your weekend plans. Visit fishingbooker.com and book your trip today. Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is out of bounds. It is me, Joey P. Joe P. Zapia here with my two best friends, Bogman and the Welsh. They put the special in special teams cuz that was the theme of week three, that's for sure. My goodness. Lots of block field goals, lots of scoops and scores. And we're going to scoop the best and the worst of week three. Turn the page to week four and see how fantasy football is going to treat us. So we like to have fun and talk football here. Of course we are on our Twitch. Twitch TV Fantasy Pros. That's the place to be here on the Twitch. Make sure you subscribe to Twitch using your wonderful Amazon prime account. Five bucks gets rid of those nasty commercials. And of course if you're watching us on Demand on the YouTube channel, make sure you drop your comments below. Make sure you hang out with us. And don't forget we're also got giveaways as well. DJ Moore mini helmet we're giving away right now from pristineauction.com so whether you're a Bears fan or you you're just a DJ Moore fan or maybe just like free stuff, if you want to win this, all you gotta do is leave a comment on any of our Twitch streams at Twitch TV fantasy pros. As always, Twitch subscribers get a 1.5x odds boost of winning this bad boy and we're gonna announce the winner next Tuesday. I believe on the channel. I believe that's what it is. If not, maybe another Tuesday. I don't know. I want to talk about Week three. Scott Bogman I've been itching to talk about Cam Scatter Boo because I'm so excited. He scored a touchdown for us on Sunday Night Football. He did a backflip. Tyrone Tracy's hurt. I don't want him to be hurt, but I'm just excited that Cam Scatter Boo is breaking through. That's what I'm excited about.
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My logic on Tyrone Tracy not getting carries was completely wrong, but we still hit because he got hurt. So I'll take a win where I can sneak one in, I guess. But yeah, Cam Scatter Boo looks like a. A real go to running back for the rest of the season. And this is kind of what I thought was going to end up happening. I didn't know it was going to happen week three. Right. I thought it was going to happen maybe a little bit later in the season, but with the Tyrone Tracy injury and what he looked like last week, he's clearly just the best back here. And I mean, you saw it in his Brian Dable interview when he was screaming in the background and Dabel is making fun of him. You know that this is the intensity that Scatter Boo brings. And I opened up my eyes this morning to a lot of text messages.
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About Cam Scatterboat, so very exciting stuff. Welsh, I want to talk to you about the the scoop and score at the end of the Eagles game here from Jordan Davis. Next gen stats. I've got the miles per hour of how fast he was running. Would you like to take a crack at how fast big man Jordan Davis was running? The opposite way of the field. He could have just sat on the football. That could have been the game. But no.
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Price is right. Highest without going over.
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Here we can go highest without going over.
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Let me start. Let me start. All right, I'm going to go with a speedy 4.8 miles per hour.
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More than that.
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Scott Bogman, go ahead.
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Closest without going over 15.5 miles per hour.
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You are both under. Scott Bogman is closer. He was running at 18 miles an hour. What the next gen stats. I know he.
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He is an athletic shed some.
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He had shed some weight and he is an athletic beast, as you were talking. See. But wow. Bw I go bring it back there if you had. BW knows. There you go.
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He was running like he was trying to go to the purple shirt store. Like, you guys.
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Don'T be jealous because we have the purple shirts and you do not have the purple shirts. Okay?
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Anybody that's listening on the podcast, Bachman and Joe decided to purple it up. So I put I've got a purple background in here, but I don't own any purple shirts. Sorry I didn't get the memo, guys.
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Oh, well, you know, damn it.
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That's gonna be the best comment all day. I can't beat that. I hate being beat early in the day. Like this Welsh.
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God, that was great. I don't know. I mean, he was saving that up Though, because he was making good.
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It was perfect, though.
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It was good. But the timing of it was good. Almost as good as all. But what was with all the blocked field goals? It was kind of. Well, in recent memory, do you ever remember that many field goals being blocked in that period of time?
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I think they said it was 1987 or 1991 the last time. Five got blocked.
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Five got blocked. And then the Scoop and scores, too. That there was two of them, too. And not only that, they were. They were by the guy that blocked.
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The field goal too.
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Both of them blocked. Scoop scored. Yeah. I've never felt less confident about kicking than this week. Every single kick, you're like, guy's gonna block it like nothing is safe. You gotta go for every fourth down. No, it was super, super weird. We're gonna talk about it. By the way. Shout out to everybody in the chat. You guys are already bringing up a lot of show topics because there's a lot of things we got to talk about. Some of the defensive stuff, some of the scoop and score things are out. A wild, weird week. And special teams was at the forefront of it for whatever reason.
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Yeah. And the weirdest part is Bog's like, I don't play in a lot of leagues with defense, special teams. I play in some IDP leagues like you and I do, and I've got like, I don't know, a handful. They maybe two, three that have defenses. So defensive scoring, especially since you had Connor go down with an injury, Mike Evans go down with an injury, CD Lamb go down with an injury, Naji Harris, like, the list goes on and on, right. Terry McLaren. A lot of scoring was suppressed. If you look at the high scores at some of these teams that had these defensive touchdowns, here's the worst thing.
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Joe, is that I have Will McDonald on two IDP teams. Didn't start him.
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On. Didn't start him.
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No. I mean, why was that?
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Yeah, that's a shame.
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Didn't happen in. But I didn't have Isaiah Rogers anywhere, so at least there's that legitimately.
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I was thinking about this. You could have had Cardi the kicker and the Vikings defense, and that probably could have outscored both of your starting running backs and maybe your tight end this week. That's how weird it was. Was.
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Yeah, it's very possible. All right, we got a lot to get to here. A lot of headlines, a lot of things going on. But first, a little questions with asses. That's right. These asses are going to answer some of my questions here. And the first, we got to start out with the Chargers backfield. Naji Harris unfortunately done for the year. It's the second running back in two weeks to have an Achilles tear. Very sad stuff there. So Amari and Hampton, here's a question box. Is he ready to take over the Chargers backfield? We've seen all of these rookie QB, excuse me, RBs in the first month of the season. Kind of last year too. And this year they almost red shirt September. It's like nobody wants to play these guys much in September because the season's much longer. In the NFL, the wear and tear is greater. Now the Chargers hand has been forced. Is Omarion Hampton up to the task?
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Doesn't matter if he is or isn't, does it, Joe? He's going to get the touches. He's going to get about 25 a game. So I think he's up for it. I mean, he was a. A workhorse back in North Carolina. I think he's going to be a workhorse back here for the Chargers as well. I think this is what they wanted, but a lot like we talked about with Cam Scatter. Boo. I didn't know that it was going to happen this early. Now Najee being out all of camp and them not using him and then ramping him back up is. Was probably the cause of this, by the way. I mean, Nashi's never missed a game before, so yeah, I. This is unfortunate, but I think it just means wheels up from rain Hampton, and you'll get some of those annoying games where he's not very good because he runs into a wall. But he's going to get the touches. So he's going to be up there every week in the rankings.
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All right, let's expand this further. So Hampton regardless, is going to get the opportunity here. Obviously his fantasy stock just shot through the roof. So it feels like if you were a zero or hero RB drafter this year, things are really going your way. Trey Benson now is going to have the lead. We have Omari Hampton getting the lead. If Ramandre Stevenson puts one more GD ball on the ground, I'm going to lose my mind. Why aren't we giving the ball to Travion Henderson? I just losing my absolute mind about that yesterday. So Welsh, the question is, are you worried at all about Hampton at some point hitting that wall? You know, we've seen that with some of the rookies sometimes when they get too much too soon here by the time we get to week 13 or something like that right in the fantasy playoffs, that wear and tear does start to show out on them. Do you think that's a problem potentially with Hampton or is like to Bogman's point, look, this was the guy in college. He had the full backfield. He could handle this here in the pros.
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Yeah, I mean, it's fair what you're saying, but I don't think there's any application to it like he's the guy after this injury he ended up getting. Where is it here? He had almost 70% of all the rush attempts from week three and that's counting where Najee was in there. Like he's going to be the guy. He was close to an 80% snapshare. He was targeted out of the backfield. He's a dude. Could he wear down? Yeah, maybe. But this is like a run heavy offense that in the early part of the season has built around passing, which is just going to help later on into the year. This is a huge win for a Marion Hampton. It really sucks for Najee. I do believe they'll bring somebody in. They talked about bringing somebody in in the, in the preseason with Najee had the eye injury and everything like that. So they're gonna bring somebody. Maybe they're gonna make a trade. But at the end of the day, it looks like, like Hampton is going to be full go. Full go.
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All right, let's take some questions here from the audience because some of the comments are very funny that we're not answering. You know what? Well, we will. We just started the show. Let us, let us say hello.
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The person that's like, what was the notification?
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Answer questions immediately. I don't understand how this works. I don't. Yeah, you have to talk to me right now. No, we have to talk about our purple shirts first. That's what we're talking about. All right, how are we feeling about scout Boo? Rank him higher than jcm? Here's a good question. So rest of season, do you have Scad Boo hiring jcm? Because I sure do. Especially after yesterday's Washington Commander backfield usage.
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I forgot. Do we have to do the skull chant before we answer this question or no.
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Okay, I'm ready. Go ahead.
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No, I'm good. I would rank Scottaboo higher than jc, than Bill. I mean, he's been a workhorse before. Bill Crosky. Merritt is in a great spot. Right. I think this is a very good spot for both these guys, specifically with Austin Eckler down. But I mean, Jaden is going to run. They're going to Mix in Chris Rodriguez, who had the most carries as well. I think this is pretty much cam with Singletary as a sidecar at this point where I think Washington is going to be a little split between those guys. I think it'll eventually go to Bill.
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Oh, they're just running everybody else. They start with Chris Rodriguez out there. This is not split.
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But don't you think also welsh that eventually Bill is going to be the best back and he'll take over that role?
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Well, it's an interesting thing for those people who are panicking and. And maybe that's true. But also, you know, it was Mariota yesterday. It was a specific game plan. Perhaps we're all just overreacting. We talked on the waiver wire show.
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About three different guys scored Russian touchdowns.
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For the right and Jane Daniels wasn't under center. So the offense isn't going to be the same with Marcus Mariota as with Jaden Daniels. So who knows what that's going to look like. Let's go to Hot Pocket Carl here. I don't know how you got that nickname. You know what? I scratched that. I actually do want to know how you got that.
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No, no. I think you were good the first time.
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Okay, Josh Jacobs, is he a cell? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. You look, the Green Bay packers went into a situation where they had a Browns team that's good on defense and with Judgins back now can really run the football. And they were fighting for their life. This was their Super Bowl. This is like, hey, we're going to be irrelevant for the rest of the season if we don't get a W here and stop the bleeding. And they did. And the packers were caught a little weak and they were in a tough spot there. They were down a bunch of players and this is what happens. And they didn't execute. Here's a question, too. Should the Falcons stay the course of Michael Penix or pivot to Kirk Cousins? Apparently, the head coach said, no, that's not an option, but it's not. You know, I don't think it should be. I just want to make sure that we're not heading in that direction.
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I mean, you bench Michael Penix at the end of the game when the game is already in hand and he can't do anything right. Like, it was pretty clear he was having a bad day. So get him out of there. Right. I think that's exactly what they did. But this isn't going to be a permanent move at all.
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Yeah. What is your favorite Hot Pocket, by the way? I Haven't had a hot pocket since like 2003.
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I remember the last time I had a hot pocket.
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Yeah.
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I'm just gonna let you know, I could win that one liner contest right now, but I'm.
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I know. That's it.
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So ham and cheddar for me.
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There you go. The ham and cheddar one. I remember in college being one that I like. The pizza one was weird. I want to say it was like a buffalo chicken one.
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Well, the, the heat ratio just never works. You got to poke the hole. It's always too hot. The first bite is.
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It's just the Gaffigan joke. Do you want it y. Solid frozen in the middle.
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Yeah.
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Or boiling lava hot. Yeah. There is no in between.
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Will it burn my mouth? It'll destroy your mouth.
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Don't ever read the ingredients, by the way, in a hot pocket. Just don't do it.
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Sulfate.
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Yeah. Well, CARSON Wentz usurp J.J. mcCarthy in Minnesota. Well, I'm just gonna ask this because this is a team that really, you know, look, they're in the thick of a 13 win team, 14 win team. This is a team that's fighting around there. If Wentz runs a couple of victories off here, is there any sort of chatter in Minnesota? It's like, hey, let's not go back to the kid quite yet.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Absolutely not. They could have brought Sam Darnold back if they wanted to do this game. It's the exact same thing with Pinnock. This stuff is silly to me. You. You want to have great veteran quarterbacks to back up if your guys fall apart, get hurt. It's way too early in the season. Could it happen? Sure, anything could happen. If J.J. mcCarthy plays like he did for six of eight quarters once, he returns for like, he does that over a month. Yeah, maybe. Wins played really efficient. But no, we're going to. We're going to go with a big fat no on those oldies taking over the newies.
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All right, here's an interesting question too. I want to get this from the. The chat here. So.
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Don'T do. Oh, you're taking away my. You're taking away my thing for later. I was going to tell you, don't do any Judkin stuff because, well, when we do our take, if you want to do takeaways of moments.
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Well, hold on a second. This is an interesting one, though. Well, not really. Where do you rank them rest of season? I don't know where that is, but like rest of season right now, Welsh do You think he is? Would you put him low end RB1? Would you put him high end, RB2? Like how, how aggressive would you be on Judkins here, especially now that we've got guys that are gone. Like we've lost James Connor, you know, obviously Eckler was really in that mix necessarily. But like, we're in a tough spot and some of the quarterbacks that we've lost already in this year are going to have a massive impact on these backfields too, because when you don't have good quarterback play, you know, cap your ability to score fantasy points because you're not moving the change, you're not scoring touchdowns.
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So per my week three takeaways, which we have on the sheet and I have there, this is my takeaway. Judkins, Quinch on Judkins is a top 20 back moving forward. I do not think that is even in question anymore. He had the highest percentage of team rush attempts in week three of any running back. His snaps, you know, they're still moving up, but he had the highest amount of tea every rush attempt but one. He's still forcing tackles. I had the, I stupidly had the under on his rushing yards, but I want to point this out. He did not have the over until eight minutes left in the fourth, but he beat down one of the best defenses in the NFL. One of the best rush defenses. They hadn't given up. They were giving up like 2.5 yards per carry. They had given up. He rushed for more yards in this game than they had given up combined in the first two games because he beat them down and the Browns committed to him. They gave him all the rush attempts. He can catch up. He is him. He is all of it. So the only thing that's going to stop him is taking him off the field due to a suspension. So I am fully in on Quinch on Judkins because like, he's going to continue to do this if he gets 15 plus carries. He beat down overtime, the best defense in the NFL. He's stretching it. I, I'm fully in. I think he's a top 20, maybe even a top 15 guy. The, the, the amount of questions in this chat that were Quinch on Judkins is at least 40%. Every question was Judkins, Judkins, Judkins. And that was my big takeaway for this week that we've now seen the progression Drum Ford is nothing Samson could catch out of the backfield if you know what. Honestly, I, the Chargers should maybe call about Jerome Ford because I could bet you could get him for a bucket of peanuts at this point because he has no room on this teeth on this team anymore. Judkins is an Easy top 20 back, maybe top 15. People are saying, hey, should I trade the Swift? Yeah, you should do all those things because he looks so good. And the Browns are going to. Browns were going to him when they were still down versus the Packers. They kept rushing the ball with him. I think he. He might end up being the best rookie of all these guys. I'm going to throw it out there. Genty looks fine. Amirian Hampton looks. But Judkins is as good as these guys right now, and maybe he's the number one.
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I mean, listen, if you find someone that talks about you the way Welsh speaks about Quinon Judkins, I didn't think that was ever going to end.
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Welsh.
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That was amazing.
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Listen, that was. That was a fun show, everybody. Thanks for joining us.
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That was an impassioned speech about Quinn, Sean Judkins. It really was, but I think he warrants it. And I think what we saw them do against the packers is the perfect strategy for the Browns to try to execute every single week. Play strong defense, run the football, control the clock. That's what they want to do. So, I mean, I think that Welsh is exactly right. I don't want to.
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I don't want to, you know, break.
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Into song here, but Gwenshaw Judkins is the man and is at least an RB2 moving forward.
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Life with fife in the chat. Just said, well, shoot. Emptied the clip on Judkins. Nothing for later. Nope. That was my take.
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That was my takeaway for week three.
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You're right. I was waiting for it.
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I'm worried we'll have to add a second show. I. I think the beauty of the bit we just did was that bogman started and then I joined exactly on the. Oh, you guys.
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C
That was one of the best. Like singing behind.
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Yeah, it was beautiful. That was very, very good. All right, let's move on to the takeaways and our favorite moments from the week. That was in fantasy football. My first takeaway. Jordan Mason is going to be a league winner. I just. I see it. It's in the stars. Aaron Jones. Maybe we get him. What? Week eight. The way the schedule falls and the injury falls. And by then, I mean, at some point we have to look at and go, maybe it should be Jordan Mason's backfield. Is he special? No. Is he in a situation where they're going to run the ball and play defense? Considering the way the quarterback play is going to be this year, whether it's JJ or whether it's Wentz, whoever it is in the weeks ahead. Yeah. Yeah. And Jordan Mason coming away with a couple scores and 100 yards look pretty darn good to me. Box. Let's get your takeaway here from week three in the NFL.
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I'm ready to break up with some people. Oh, so I'm going to publicly do this. So we're in a public place. It's loud in here. We can't make a scene. Marvin Harrison Jr. I'm breaking up with you. And listen, this one's going to be going to make Welsh very happy. Isaiah Pacheco, I'm breaking up with you.
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C
Oh, yeah.
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B
I mean, listen, I think I want to break up with the entire Chiefs defense or offense right now. It is pathetic. It is not good. They only put up 22 points on the Giants, who the Cowboys whooped last week. I don't understand what's happening here. I know that the wide receiver injuries are a major part of it, of course, but Patrick Mahomes, you made Tyquan Thornton look like a God yesterday. Like, why can't this offense get it together? They have no push. Let Brashard Smith have this backfield. Let him do it.
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Yeah. He had a little bit from the waiver wire that I would stash right now just in the weeks ahead to see if it turns around, because he was the only guy that looked like he had any kind of snap and any hitch in his giddy up. And I think the entire Chiefs offense can be summed up in that one play. Where. Do you remember when. So in the game in the first half where Mahomes pumped the ball like, three times and then eventually tried to dump it off to Kelsey and it was like five yards out of his reach.
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B
Kelsey's got to be on that one or whatever.
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A
How. Shut up.
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17 times.
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A
There's nowhere near pumps.
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This is worse than.
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This. It's like we're trying so hard to. To make it all work, and we're just falling short. To me, that was like the encapsulation of the Chiefs in 2025 so far. Like, we're just trying so hard. Trying so hard. Trying so hard and failing. And that seems the what it is. Thank goodness. Russell Wilson, you know, two out of every three balls he throws up in the air go to the other team.
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Or those rainbow balls are really good at going to the other team this year.
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Well, they're going, but they either go incomplete or they Go. I mean, that ball he threw in the end zone, the end there. I. I'm still wondering where that was headed. I have no idea. 500. Somebody's open somewhere. It's like you just got a tossing ball. Welsh, what was your big takeaway? Well, from last week, as.
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C
As on the sheet, it was Judkins. I had put this before we started the show. It was being a top right, which is probably also.
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Chuck.
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No, but I want to. I want to do this because everybody. Yeah, it is probably. It's actually. It is Judkins laying Micah Parsons down on the ground. That was the big one. No, I want to reference one thing. Everybody after our. The Judkins speech was saying touch on the suspension. So let's touch on that for a second and then I'll give you my moment on the suspension. We've heard some stuff. I think it's Drew Davenport. Davenport has been out there saying, it actually looks like we might not have a suspension. But here would be the thing. I'm going to throw this out to you. If you are going out to try to go acquire Judkins, I think you can use the looming suspension to your favor. People might not be on that he's a top 15, 20ish type of back and that the looming suspension is out there. Use that in your favor if you were trying to go acquire. I am going to go off of the assumption that the worst case scenario you're dealing with is two. But it's sounding like there might not be anything in season. But obviously things can change. Okay, so you want my moment. My moment is a defensive moment and the pure glory. And even though I'm not a big IDP guy, that's Bogman. The absolute dominant defensive performance by Isaiah Rogers this weekend was ridiculous. He had two past past defenses, two touchdowns, a force fumble, a recovered force fumble, a couple tackles, and maybe even more impressive, a perfect 99.9 PFF. Defensive grade. He was an absolute beast. They embarrassed the Bengals and he was at the forefront of all of it. Punching balls, scoring touchdowns, get him off the ground, making picks.
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He was good.
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Welsh because the Bengals stink.
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Purple shirt.
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Purple shirt.
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Purple shirt. Shout out to Sherwood for gifting community subs. Also Dredis. Whereas Clutch subscribe with Prime. Also Darth Wolf did. We got a lot of folks happening here, so shout out to everybody. Hype Train is level three roster baiting. Just resubbed. We appreciate everybody here on the Twitch. Again, Twitch tv. We want you to hang out with us at Fantasy pros. Let's Go to the moment of the day for you. Actually. Yeah, moment of the day for week three for you, Cam.
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Scatter Boo backflip into his Hawaiian celebration. That was a lot of fun. I mean I think the Steelers being able to punch out the ball four times was a lot of fun as well. I would like to win by more than one touchdown at the end of the game when you're plus four in the turnover margin. But I'll take what I can get. And speaking of Aaron Rodgers, I got a little revenge on Dredis this weekend because I beat her in the out of bounds league while she was sending Welsh Aaron Rodgers gifts in his Steelers uniforms this off season. So got a little revenge there. But thank you for the community sub.
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C
Very depressing.
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How do you feel about the Ireland game coming up for the 8:30 in the morning?
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For me, Joe, that game is 8:30 in the morning. I'm gonna be angry.
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A
I assume you're just not going to bed. I assume just I'm gonna go to.
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Bed at 9 since, since I'm our defensive guru now, I have horrifically bad breaking news. Nick Bosa is believed to have torn in ACL according to Ian Rapaport and is out for the year. Awesome.
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God, that sucks, man.
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Well, there you. Let's take another question here. Let's go to frustrated Duck, Henderson or Mason rest of season. Boggs, who would you rather have?
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I'm still going to be Henderson on this one. I just, I cannot believe that the Patriots don't go to Henderson more after everybody fumbled this week.
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Yeah, they put Gibson in after and he thought that was every fumble everybody.
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B
Fumbled except for Henderson. So I feel like it has to be Henderson. I still think Henderson is a better back but Mason is in the better scenario right now. So that makes it close. But I'm still going to say Henderson.
- [24:59]
C
That's Mason for me by the way. I'm going to go. I think this is clearly Mason.
- [25:03]
A
I'm going to break the tie. I'll tell you this rest of season I still the trivia and Henderson explosiveness. Like he could be Jameer Gibbs. Like that's what he could be.
- [25:10]
C
Fantasy wise he could even be like Jordan Mason. Wouldn't that be crazy? He could be. Yeah, he could be a boat.
- [25:16]
A
He could be. He could be. My big moment was obviously the big fella, Jordan Davis, the scoop in the score, 18 miles an hour just running down the field. My boy was huffing. He was. You know what credit to him. He was. He was huffing. Still in the post Game interview. They interviewed him like five minutes after the game and he was like. And I lost some weight, so I made sure that I could get. It sounded like the Muhammad Ali of the end of the fight with Easter. And I told Joe Frazier and I was gonna whoop his ass. And then I did.
- [25:43]
C
What an incredible moment, too. That was very much like college football because that was the biggest, biggest backdoor cover of backdoor covers. The Eagles were minus three and a half.
- [25:51]
B
No, it wasn't. And I can tell you what was. It was Oklahoma safety this weekend to clear my six and a half.
- [25:57]
C
That one was NFL. But that's why I said it's literally like college. It's like college. You get those moments in college. And that's what that was. It was blocked. Big man. If that's like a Cor. I don't know. I mean, I think anybody's trying to return that, but at the same time, like, that was incredible. That was incredible.
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All right, we got a lot of questions here about Chase Brown, so let's talk about him before we move on to the next segment. Boggs, you have any thoughts on Chase Brown? Like, I'm just holding right now. There's not much else we can do. You know, you can't sell them all for pieces.
- [26:23]
B
I think the. This was just a really terrible matchup for Jake Browning, right, to go into Minnesota. The blitz. Heaviest team in the league in your first start this season. And you know, on the road with the crazy crowd and everything, it just, it all went to garbage really fast for the Bengals. I don't think they'll have a week this bad offensively for the rest of the year. Are they behind the eight ball now without show burrow?
- [26:50]
A
Of course.
- [26:51]
B
But I don't think it's going to get this bad again for the rest of the season. So I'm not too panicky on Brown. Even though the whole Bengals offense lost value across the board.
- [27:00]
C
I'm going to throw. I'm going to do a hot take. I'll do a lot of hot takes. I'm going to get my inner D bro in here. I think I'm going to take Judkins over Chase Brown rest of season.
- [27:07]
B
I don't know. You know what? I don't even know if that's a hot take. The only way that's a hot take is if. Is if Judkins get suspended at this point.
- [27:16]
A
Yeah, I'm not even like four games. Not even two. Yeah, that would have to be a four game suspension, I think for it to matter.
- [27:22]
C
Browning's bad. Browning's bad. But that offensive line was insanely bad. I mean, Browning had about 1.5 seconds to think before he had someone in his full Mississippi. They're, they're going to blitz the ever living crap out of Browning every single game because he doesn't have enough time to think to go to Chase. All he does is throw to no a Fant or a tight end for 2 yards every single time. And it leaves out like the play. I mean, I had some bets in this game and on the Bengals, the idea that they called it in the broadcast. Every single first down they ran the ball up with Chase Brown and about the fourth time where they lost a yard they were like, at some point they're going to have to realize this isn't going to work. And they stubbornly did it every single time. They can't get him together. I'm legitimately worried about Chase Brown, like he's going to have some games because like he is a talented back. But they're without burrow for the majority of this season. Their offensive line stinks. They have absolutely no time. If it's a tough defensive line matchup, I don't know. I think it's going to be hard pressed to see Chase Brown inside of a lot of top 15 RB ranks rest of season and maybe even 20. Just with how this offense looks, you.
- [28:31]
B
Hate to see it. You hate to see the Bengals strong.
- [28:33]
A
Trey Benson or Chase Brown? Real quick, who do you want rest of season?
- [28:36]
B
Still Chase Brown for me.
- [28:40]
C
Man, I guess I'll go with Chase Brown because the Cardinals are gonna be annoying with like D. Markado and stuff, but it might be Trey Benson. Like, I think that's the territory. I think he belongs with them.
- [28:49]
B
I, I think it's close, but I'm still gonna go Chase Brown.
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All right, so let's play a little factor Fiction Lightning round here. I'm gonna throw out a statement. You tell me if it's fact or fiction. And in like, you know, 10 seconds, you can give me a little bit of why. But not, not like, I don't want a Welsh Judd Kittens like response here on this. Okay.
- [30:52]
C
Yeah, I have no other. These aren't just you've got other feelings.
- [30:56]
B
The tank is empty.
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A
Nothing left. All right, Luther Burden, Trey Tucker and Taekwond Thornton off the waiver wire are fool's gold. Fact or fiction? Welsh.
- [31:07]
C
Ah, dang it. I'm going to say fact. I'm not giving you the proper time. I do think, like, if D.J. morgan's traded, Luther Burton looks fantastic, by the way. Taekwond Thornton is an absolute dude. I kind of think he's real. I don't buy the Trey Tucker stuff. So I guess if I have to use him as a group, I'm gonna say this is fool's gold.
- [31:27]
B
I think Tucker has the most staying power here because he's on the field more than the other guys. But Tyquan Thornton, they're going to get two guys back. And yeah, I just, I'm not into it. Pass.
- [31:37]
A
Yeah. And Burton's tough because he's not on the field a lot.
- [31:39]
B
17 snaps yesterday.
- [31:41]
A
Yeah, I mean, maybe that grows over time, but I think a lot of people, especially this week with the CD Lamb news and, you know, the Mike Evan situation and Terry McLaurin too, everyone's been running to the waiver wire and I think they're going to be look at guys like that instead of looking at guys like Tori Horton. I think Horton's my guy that I would much rather have.
- [31:57]
C
But also like Troy Franklin was a big disappointment. Like look at the usage he had in week two and then it just disappeared. So like you might say that's not.
- [32:03]
A
Shocking because they've shown us that before. They. Yeah, he's that before. So that's why I didn't chase that at all last week. But Horton's a guy that I've added everywhere two weeks ago because I was a big fan of him for dynasty leagues. I just thought, hey, there's a path for him and any other league this past weekend where he was out there. I just picked him up before the games just to see and try to save myself a couple bucks. You know what's so weird too? ELIC AO Manor over 50 roster on sleeper but on Yahoo 21 rostered.
- [32:28]
C
Yeah.
- [32:28]
A
What the hell is happening on Yahoo leagues? What. What is going on? People in week three, in week two.
- [32:35]
B
They just like drafting or they're just like.
- [32:39]
A
Or is it just like a lot of 10 team leagues, I guess or everything's 10 teams, two wide receivers. So nobody cares. Like it's just.
- [32:45]
B
I don't know.
- [32:46]
A
It drives me crazy, man. I don't like it. All right, next one. Texans at 03 are done. Fact or fiction in this division? Box Fact.
- [32:53]
B
Yeah, I think. I think you're out at zero and three. I'll say this. The. The defense is still really good. That could keep them in it. But starting on three is a pretty bad signal everywhere.
- [33:04]
C
Yep.
- [33:04]
A
How about you, Welsh?
- [33:05]
C
Yep. Fact. I do. I don't have any good prospects for this team. It's going to be Woody Marks time soon. We're going to get some fantasy production out of these other guys. But this team looks lost. Stroud looks lost. So I'm going to say fact.
- [33:18]
A
So how many teams are winless right now? We've got. The Texans are winless. Right.
- [33:23]
C
Dolphins. Dolphins. I'm looking everyone who plays in New.
- [33:28]
A
York.
- [33:30]
C
Saints and Giants.
- [33:33]
A
So we have six teams. How brutal is that? Both New York teams winless and it's almost the end of September. Unbelievable. All right, Ricky Pearsall will finish as a wide receiver one in 2025. Welsh factor fiction.
- [33:45]
C
Ooh, I'm gonna say fiction because I don't think he's gonna be a top 12, but I think he's gonna be a top 15 wide receiver. Like Purdy's about to just misses it.
- [33:55]
A
Okay. Yeah.
- [33:55]
C
But here's the problem. Jennings is a huge pain in the ass to Pierce. All because like he's a really. He, like he's just a sneaky guy. He just finds open seams in zones and stuff like that. I don't think he's gonna miss much, much time. He'll be back. Kittle's also going to be back. But Piers all clearly like, if you didn't know he's a massively talented wide receiver. He made Mac Jones look good ish yesterday. And Purdy should be back. So top 12? No. Top 15. I do think so. I think he belongs in the teens of ranks or. Or consideration of that every single week moving forward.
- [34:27]
A
Bogman.
- [34:28]
B
What do you think he's going to be that book? All my friends are dead by the end of the season. George kittle's already hurt. CMC had what, 48 touches yesterday or whatever ridiculous number it was. And Juan Jennings can't stay on the field. Like everybody's gonna be hurt. Yeah. I think he finishes his like wide receiver 1112.
- [34:48]
A
All right, next one here. The Bucks offense can stay afloat without Mike Evans. It's one thing that I have. Godwin, I know Igbok is awesome, but without Mike Evans too. That's kind of the special sauce there. Now look, credit to Baker Mayfield. He's had three comeback wins already. Fact or fiction? The Bucks can stay afloat. Let's say Mike Evans misses significant time. Boggs, what do you think?
- [35:07]
B
Fact. Egg Buka is the man. Egg Buka is awesome. They're going to get Chris Godwin back as well. And Bucky had also. I think it was 30 touches yesterday. It was an insane amount. So if they could keep handing the ball to Bucky, Baker keeps coming through in the clutch. Yeah, this offense can stay a well oiled machine. Specifically when they get Chris Godwin back.
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C
Big fact. This is absolute big fact. Yeah. I mean if God, like if there's a serious injury with Evans and Godwin is looking like he's pacing out to play this week, that's huge. I think Ameca is just. He already looks so incredible. I could do. I feel like I would do the same for a second.
- [35:46]
A
He just looks so good.
- [35:48]
C
It is like you don't want to get too great in this league.
- [35:51]
B
In this league.
- [35:53]
C
He makes incredible catch on the sideline. He finds those open routes like he. He looks like a pro. He looks like a three or four year in season veteran.
- [36:00]
A
Yeah. All right, last one here. Factor fiction. Russell Wilson is cooked. That's the last game we're going to see him start for the Giants last night. Welsh.
- [36:07]
C
I'm going to say fiction because I think they're stubborn enough to give him like one or two more. But there was a lot of camera pans to Dart last night. Not going to lie, a lot of camera pans there. But he makes enough dumb decisions that keeps them out of it. I think I, we said this like a couple weeks ago. We were talking about when would Dart start. I think it's around like week six, week six or seven. I'm going to kind of hold to that. I don't know when their bye weeks are, but I think he will start next week. Cue the Rapaport report that Jackson Dart will be starting in week four.
- [36:37]
A
Yeah, it'll probably happen right after we, right after recording. So then everybody will make comments about it. Well, honestly, look, this is probably the last week because they played the Los Angeles Chargers this week and they're going to get their ass handed to them. There's such a better football team than the Giants are. And then after that they played the New Orleans Saints. So if you want to, if you want to get Dart in there early, the only problem is the following week is the Eagles. So that's kind of tough. But look, by then your season's over. You might as well start evaluating people.
- [37:01]
B
Yeah, I think that's it. And I think you have to do it fast if you're Brian Dable, because you may only get this season to prove that Dart is worth the pick. Right. So.
- [37:10]
A
Or that you're worth your job. Right. Like, if you think that's the point, if you upset the Eagles, right. That might save you your job because you're going to, if you're going to lose to the Chargers, maybe you can beat the Saints, right? You throw Dart out there, he looks good. Let's say he could beat the Saints. Then you come around. If you could possibly pull off an upset against the Philadelphia Eagles and then you win a couple games, you finish.500, there's reason to believe maybe there's something happening.
- [37:33]
B
Do you think he starts this week? Then you think Jackson Dart starts this week?
- [37:38]
A
I, I, I think James Winston should start this week. I'll be honest with you. I just can't run Russell Wilson out there anymore. I just, I, I mean, and it's.
- [37:47]
B
Just he was good against the Cowboys.
- [37:49]
A
Was he good or did those 50, 50 balls come down a little bit more? 51, 49 on the other side like that's the thing. And at the end of the game he was bad when he needed to be good. At the end he was bad.
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B
I think, I don't think Russell Caleb.
- [38:01]
A
Williams looked like Peyton Manning this week against defense.
- [38:05]
B
I don't think that day ball does it this week.
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A
All right, let's get the 311 contest now. Do we have any outstanding still left to go? Yes, I, I do have one more player left from last week to go here. So I've got Jameson Williams still to go, but two of us had Jordan Mason and one of us got Bogman had Jonathan Taylor. So we all got the 100 yard rusher. Nobody got a 300 yard passer. Maybe I'll get 100 yard receiver. But you guys did not get Pickens or Justin Jefferson, unfortunately. So that puts the tally as of now three for me, one for Welsh, one for Bogdman, ironically in the 311 contest. So we're gonna pick a 300 yard rusher for week four. Four a 300 yard passer for. Be nice to have a 300 yard rusher, 300 yard passer for week four, 100 yard rusher and 100 yard receiver. I know the Browns defense played really well this week and did a really good job against Jordan Love, but they're going to Detroit next week and in Detroit, Jared Goff is just different. So I'm going to take Jared Goff and I'm on Ross St. Brown, that duo once again that got me on the board two weeks ago. And I'm going to take J.K. dobbins against the Cincinnati Bengals to go for 100 yards rushing. That's my 100 yard rusher there for the week. Welsh, what's your 311 predictions for week four?
- [39:16]
C
All right, I got to get up on this board a little bit more. The Cowboys secondary you said, made Caleb Williams look like Joe Montana. So I think Jordan Love is going to be slinging the crap out of the ball and he's going to look like Tom Brady out there. So Jordan Love versus Dallas, that's going to be my pick. Even though they don't even know who the hell they're going to throw to. Just to bunch of slang it up, couple tight ends, couple, you know, wicks and backup wide receivers. We're still going to go with love versus Dallas because it's so bad. Christian McCaffrey is going to be my running back going up against the Jags. They give him, as mentioned, 45 to 48 touches per game. So Christian McCaffrey is going to have all the opportunities. They have been throwing the ball at a ridiculous clip this year. To McCaffrey, this is going to be the game. I think it sticks on the ground a little bit and he'll break a big one. And then for my wide receiver, I'm actually going to go in the Thursday night game. JSN one of the top targets in all the NFL. The Cardinals gave up over 100 to Purasol. JSN is the number one targeted player by. By with a bullet, as Bogman would say for the Seahawks. So I think this is going to be a JSN 100 yard receiver, McCaffrey 100 runner and Jordan Love 300 yard passer.
- [40:22]
A
All right. It'd be nice to have a bounce back for Jordan Love, that's for sure. All right. Boggs 311 for week four, what do you have?
- [40:27]
B
Let's go with Bo Nix versus Cincinnati and his coach Sean Payton said just keep slinging it, just keep slinging it. I think they do that against the Bengals. They should have the ball for most of that game as well. For my 100 yard rusher, let's go with Amarian Hampton against the New York Giants. The Giants run D not very good at all. And like we said, Omarion Hampton is going to get all the touches there. I mean they have Hassan Haskins, they're probably going to, you know, sign Vidal back. So it's going to be ugly. There going to be all of Marion Hampton and then Roma Dunes A against the Raiders. I mean the Raiders offense has been playing pretty well here. Gino's been throwing the ball, you know, around three touchdowns to Trey Tucker last week. I think Brock Bowers a little more healthy with this knee thing next week as well. So I expect a little bit more of a back and forth and I highly doubt that Caleb Williams doesn't get sacked against Bax Crosby and company like he did against Dallas. So little more back and forth this week. I think that could be a nice shootout game.
- [41:29]
C
By the way, Elto in the comments, totally right. I, I definitely disappointed the masses when I set up the 100 yard rusher. I didn't take Judkins and I probably really should have considered doing that.
- [41:37]
A
You know what, I hope he goes off now. Now I really want to.
- [41:39]
C
I kind of want to do it, but it's just that Jags lineup for McAffrey with the touches is ridiculous. But to your point, Judkins is also a great bet. That's kind of. I kind of want to take it but I'm not going to.
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