FantasyPros - The Biggest Fantasy Football Questions For Each Team in Week 3 (Ep. 1720)

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The Herd with Colin Cowherd: FantasyPros — The Biggest Fantasy Football Questions For Each Team in Week 3 (Ep. 1720)
Release date: September 21, 2025
Summary Compiled By: Expert Podcast Summarizer

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Episode Overview

This week’s FantasyPros episode, hosted by Ryan Wormley alongside Derek Brown (DBro) and Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitz), dives deep into the biggest fantasy football questions for each NFL team heading into Week 3. The crew breaks down matchups, debates start-sit decisions, and discusses team trends, addressing player usage, injuries, and potential breakouts. Using up-to-date expert rankings and market trends, the team provides actionable insights for managers aiming to outmaneuver their leagues.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Falcons at Panthers: Pitts vs. McMillan [02:10-06:13]

• Primary Debate: Who scores higher at their position this week: Kyle Pitts (TE, ATL) or Tet McMillan (WR, CAR)?
  • Fitz: Favors Pitts (TE) for top-10 potential, citing Panthers’ vulnerability to TEs and Pitts’ improved usage.
  • Notable Quote: "Pitts already has 11 catches... but I do think he’s a top 10 tight end this week." — Fitz [02:57]
  • DBro: Agrees, highlighting Pitts’ full-time role and Carolina’s tendency to deploy single-high coverages, where Pitts excels.
  • Notable Quote: "Kyle Pitts week. Saddle up. Let’s go." — Dbro [04:03]
• On McMillan: Both rank him as WR16; note possible bump if A.J. Terrell (CB) misses game, but volume still not elite.

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2. Packers at Browns: Can GB Offense Survive Injuries? [06:13–12:24]

• Packers’ Side: Early injuries (Jaden Reed, Tucker Kraft) threaten passing game depth.
  • Fitz: Sees a likely low-scoring game, hesitant about GB offense against strong Cleveland D.
  • DBro: More optimistic; believes Matt LaFleur should open passing volume for Jordan Love, given Love’s strong efficiency metrics and Cleveland’s pass D allowing TDs.
  • Concerns: Josh Jacobs’ tough matchup in run game.
  • Quote: "If I'm LaFleur... we need to lean into the passing game and put more on the shoulders of Jordan Love..." — Dbro [09:11]
• Outcome Prediction: Both hesitant on Browns offense; see Packers as likely to outperform spread despite absences.

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3. Texans at Jaguars: Who Bounces Back? [16:33-20:44]

• Collins vs. Thomas Jr.:
  • Both WRs have disappointed; Dbro prefers Nico Collins for volume, wary of Brian Thomas Jr.'s shadowed matchup vs. Stingley.
  • Rankings Insight: Collins fringe WR1 (ECR 8), Thomas Jr. a low WR1 (ECR 11), but likely to move down.
  • Notable Quote: "I'm probably going to revisit the primer... the vibes in Jacksonville are bad and Derek Stingley is freaking awesome." — Dbro [17:08]
• Start/Sit: Both recommend starting Nico Collins over Zay Flowers; debates persist on Adams/Evans/AJ Brown versus BTJ.
• QBs:
  • Dbro leans Trevor Lawrence (vs. underwhelming Texans pass D); Fitz prefers C.J. Stroud, noting stellar past performances against Jacksonville.

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4. Bengals at Vikings: Better Backup Offense? [21:14-24:41]

• Wentz (MIN) vs. Browning (CIN):
  • Fitz sides with Minnesota and Wentz, citing home field and coaching; expects pressure to rattle Jake Browning.
  • Dbro is skeptical Wentz can overcome MIN’s O-line issues, picks Browning for supporting cast and past production.
  • Defensive Factor: Brian Flores’ blitzing vs. CIN’s offense could be key.

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5. Steelers at Patriots: Is PIT a Defense to Target? [25:57-28:37]

• DBro: Shocked by the drop-off despite talent; now willing to start players against Steelers’ D.
  • "They’ve forgotten how to play defense... the beginning of the end of Mike Tomlin?" — Dbro [25:57]
• Fitz: Still has faith PIT will rebound, not a true 'target' defense all season; injuries are the root cause.

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6. Patriots Backfield: Ramondre vs. Travion [28:15-30:43]

• DBro: Rhamondre Stevenson owns backfield (RB19 in his ranks); Henderson (RB36) is still a backup.
  • Stevenson’s efficiency and workload highlighted.
• Fitz: More bullish on Henderson’s pass-catching role, not fully trusting Stevenson’s grip on value.

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7. Rams at Eagles: Betting Angle & Prop Analysis [30:43-33:43]

• Spread: Both Fitz and Dbro agree the lines are sharp (Eagles -3.5, total 44.5); Fitz would lean Eagles, over; Dbro likes Rams as live underdog, over.
• Props:
  • Fitz: Considers Tyler Higby under yards
  • Dbro: A.J. Brown over 61.5 receiving yards; expects eruption game given coverage scheme.
  • Memorable Banter: Fitz & Dbro riff on the A.J. Brown vs. Emmanuel Forbes mismatch.

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8. Jets at Buccaneers (post-Fields): Hall & Wilson Stock [34:22-35:40]

• Both: See Breece Hall and Garrett Wilson as "play as you would" options; Tyrod Taylor fills in reliably at QB.
  • Wilson (WR12–14), Hall (RB18–20).

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9. Colts Offensive Confidence Scale [36:16-39:10]

• For Week 3: Fitz (6/10), Dbro (7-8/10) given matchup flexibility and O-line protection.
• Rest of Season: Fitz (2/10), Dbro (4–5/10), both skeptical due to upcoming tough schedule and Daniel Jones’ limitations; only confident in Michael Pittman and Tyler Warren as pass catchers.

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10. Raiders at Commanders: Is it Time to Panic on A. Genti? [39:52-41:55]

• Both: Not panicking (3/10 scale for Fitz). Usage still solid; offensive line and schedule should improve.
  • Matchup Call: Both prefer Jordan Mason over Genti this week.

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11. Broncos at Chargers: Players to Exceed Expectations [42:17-44:57]

• Denver: Fitz picks Courtland Sutton for bounce-back; Dbro likes Troy Franklin as a possible benefactor against 2-high looks.
• Chargers: Both settle on Keenan Allen as the clear target against favorable matchups; QJ to see tough coverage.

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12. Saints at Seahawks: Walker vs. Charbonnet [45:35-48:20]

• Charbonnet Injured: If out, expect Ken Walker to shoulder bulk of load; Dbro and Fitz would rank him as an RB1 (Walker ECR surges to top 10–16 range).

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13. Cowboys at Bears: Is Odunze for Real? [48:43-54:10]

• Fitz: Skeptical to declare Rome Odunze a fantasy alpha, citing likely regression in target split with DJ Moore.
• DBro: Ranks Odunze at WR18, a bit below consensus, but leans strongly into DJ Moore’s upside for Week 3.
  • Betting Action: Backs Moore’s receptions and yards prop.
  • DJ Moore’s metrics vs. too-high coverage suggest an eruption game.

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14. Cardinals at 49ers: Pearsall vs. Jennings, MHJ Skepticism [54:30-57:22]

• Fitz: Slightly prefers Ricky Pearsall if Jennings is limited.
• DBro: Takes Jennings if healthy, otherwise leans Pearsall.
• Marvin Harrison Jr.:
  • Both suggest ECR over-rates him significantly. Dbro laments his minimal target share and efficiency.

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15. Chiefs at Giants (SNF): Will KC’s Offense Recover? [57:34-61:22]

• DBro: Sees "look better" game for KC against Giants but nowhere near "get right." Questions run game, WR depth, and overall explosiveness.
• Line Analysis: Both prefer Giants to cover +6, with Dbro tempted by the Giants moneyline.
  • Notable Quotes: "Patrick Mahomes scrambling. That’s it." — Fitz [59:13]

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16. Lions at Ravens (MNF): Game of the Week Shootout? [62:16-65:14]

• Projected Total: 52.5 points — both expect OVER, possibly by a wide margin.
  • DBro Fades: Mark Andrews, due to lack of involvement and tough matchup vs. DET.
  • Fitz Fades: Derrick Henry, points to his rough slate and personal bias.
  • Handicap: Both lean Ravens to cover at home, especially with Lamar’s home & primetime record.
  • Humor: Playful banter on Lamar’s "postseason narrative."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Kyle Pitts week. Saddle up. Let's go." — Dbro, hyping Pitts as a lockdown tight end start [04:03]
• "They've forgotten how to play defense. Like, is this... the beginning of the end of Mike Tomlin?" — Dbro on the shocking downfall of PIT defense [25:57]
• "I don't want to say this is a get right game for KC. This is maybe a ‘look better’ game, but get right? I don't know when that happens." — Dbro expressing KC skepticism [57:43]
• "Patrick Mahomes scrambling. That's it." — Fitz summarizing KC’s offense [59:13]
• "If you went and traded for [Ken Walker] after people freaked out in week one, congrats." — Fitz, on Walker’s bounce-back [47:58]
• "Just asking questions." — Dbro teasingly needles Wormly over Lamar’s playoff record [64:34]
• On betting the Giants vs. Chiefs: "I'll take Giants money line. Maybe I'm crazy, but I'll take the money line." — Dbro [60:43]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Pitts vs. McMillan: 02:10–06:13
• Packers injuries & projections: 06:13–12:24
• Texans & Jaguars WR/QB debates: 16:33–20:44
• Bengals/Vikings QB support vs. matchup: 21:14–24:41
• Steelers defense under fire: 25:57–28:37
• Patriots RB split: 28:15–30:43
• Rams vs. Eagles betting/props: 30:43–33:43
• Jets post-Fields analysis: 34:22–35:40
• Colts confidence scale: 36:16–39:10
• Raiders panic meter: 39:52–41:55
• Broncos/Chargers matchups: 42:17–44:57
• Saints/Seahawks RB workloads: 45:35–48:20
• Cowboys/Bears WR analysis: 48:43–54:10
• Cardinals/49ers WR3 debate: 54:30–57:22
• Chiefs/Giants SNF preview: 57:34–61:22
• Lions/Ravens MNF preview: 62:16–65:14

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Summary Takeaways

• Week 3 is loaded with start-sit dilemmas, injury-related pivots, and clarity emerging on player usage—particularly among WRs and RBs.
• Despite some surprising early trends (e.g., the Steelers’ defensive collapse, Chiefs’ offensive woes), the hosts urge measured adjustments and avoid overreactions.
• Several matchups offer betting value on props and spreads, notably with A.J. Brown, DJ Moore, and underdog lines like Giants +6.
• Monday Night’s Lions-Ravens clash is the fantasy must-watch of the week—expect offensive fireworks and a high-scoring affair.

Fantasy managers are encouraged to stay plugged in on injuries, trust the volume for studs (even when frustrated), and keep chasing plus matchups as the small sample size settles in.

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For further lineup-specific or waiver wire advice, hit up the FantasyPros crew on Discord or social media. Good luck in Week 3!

Transcript

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[A]

Hello everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football podcast. I'm Ryan, warmly joined, as I am every Friday morning by Derek Brown and by Pat Fitz Morris. We're talking our key questions for the week three slate here. Quick reminder for everybody that all of our 2025 consensus rankings and tiers can be found at fantasyprose.com slow/ Rankings DBRO how are you doing on this Friday morning?

[C]

Doing good, buddy. I'm happily energized, man. The primer's out and I can happily report that in many years it's, you know, the weekly battle with the primer feels insurmountable, but we get there and I'm feeling fresh and spry. Two weeks in, man, I'm here for it.

[A]

Won't last. But that's, but that's good for now.

[C]

Yeah. Week, week 10. Let's have the same conversation.

[A]

Yeah, Fitz, how are you doing? I know you're trying to get out of here and go golfing.

[D]

That's right. Unseasonably warm weather in Chicago. So, yeah, I'm going to sneak in a little nine holes at the course next door. So the writing is to bed for the week. I'm sure I'm going to be spending a lot of time on discord later today answering questions. Got to make those injury updates. But yeah, love having the writing done for the week. And I am ready for week three.

[A]

I won't be golfing, but it is unseasonably warm here in Colorado, too. It's, it's, it's like 60 right now, but by the time we get to the afternoon, it's going to be in the mid-80s, which feels weird for mid September, but it is very sunny here, so that makes some degree of sense. Yeah, I know D Row is really feeling the empathy for us still, still cooking in Texas.

[C]

Come, come talk to me with my mid-90s and high-90s. Yeah, let's have a conversation.

[A]

I could not have less interest in that. Jump into the slate here because we're still in the time of year when we have every team playing no bye weeks. So a lot to get through. We'll start with game number one, Falcons at Panthers. And I Kind of struggle to put together a question for this because I think generally we kind of have an idea of where the ball is going in, in for both of these teams for the most part. So I wanted to ask you just about two players in general. Who has a higher positional finish this week? Tenaro McMillan at wide receiver or Kyle Pitts at tight end? Obviously we think McMillan is the better, but you know, there's more wide receivers that you're competing with. So I think this could end up being like a number that is that are, you know, close to each other, their respective finishes. So Fitz, I'll start with you. Kyle Pitts at tight end or Tet McMillan at wide receiver, who finishes higher?

[D]

I'll say Kyle Pitts because I think he has better odds of a top 10 finish than Ted Arrow McMillan does. Not that I'm down on McMillan. I have him ranked wide receiver 16 this week. He's been as good as advertised. 11 catches for 168 yards so far. But his matchup against the Falcons, like the Falcons have a sneaky good pass defense. And I know we're not used to saying that like Atlanta never has a pass rush, but last week they sacked JJ McCarthy six times. They quietly rank number two in DVOA and pass defense behind only the Green Bay Packers. So Pitts on the other hand, real nice matchup. Panthers gave up the most fantasy points to tight ends last season. They gave up 65 yards and a touchdown to the Brenton Strange Hunter long combination in Week 1. And Trey McBride had six catches for 98 yards against him last week. Pitts already has 11 catches, as many as Tedro and McMillan, so hasn't done as much with them. But I do think he's a top 10 tight end this week.

[A]

What do you think, D. Ro? I mean even before you get into Tedro McMillan, do you also have Kyle Pitts as a top 10 tight end?

[D]

I do.

[C]

I have him at tight end 10. I think he's an incredibly strong play. And this isn't just like talking about the tight end position. But Pitts was the easy answer here for me too. Like, okay, I think the other thing like that I've been not shocked but very happily surprised by is that Kyle Pitts has been a full time player in the Atlanta offense. Considering what we saw last year to close the season. You're Talking about a 50 snapshare player and him playing a full time role. He's been extremely involved. The coverage matchup is also like Fitz, also like laid out that Carolina has Been bad versus tight ends, but the coverage matchup is fantastic for Pitts. Like you want to start Cal Pitts and I talked about this in the primer last week and this week versus single high teams. Carolina Panthers are running single high at 56.5% of the defensive snaps versus single high this year. And these numbers go back to even last year. This is where Pitts eats, man. Like this year he has a 28.6% target share, 1.9 yards per route run and a 25% first read share versus single high. Yeah, Kyle Pitts week. Saddle up. Let's go.

[A]

What do you expect out of McMillan? Dbro Fitz said he had him wide receiver 16. Does that sound about right to you?

[C]

Yeah, I've got him at wide receiver 16, I think, and Fitz laid it out perfectly. The only thing I'll add with the projection of Tedmillan, I don't think AJ Terrell plays this week. He's dealing with, I believe, a hamstring injury that, so that definitively does bump up Tedro McMillan for me this week. If Terrell is out, I think you.

[A]

Guys are probably making the right pick here in pits. Especially like I said with their, you know, fewer tight ends to be competing with for a positional finish. But I kind of like, I just have liked so much what I've seen out of McMillan so far. Like obviously coming off this 100 yard game, like once he starts catching touchdowns, I'm kind of just like ready for him to explode. And I don't know that it'll be this week or anything, but I, I, as high as I was coming into the season, I feel like I'm even higher on McMillan.

[C]

I, I just, I think honestly there's more meat on the bone for tet. Like his, his raw numbers look good, but if you look at his market share stuff like he's not getting like a 28 target share. The fact that Bryce Young's passing so much is helping pad some of the stats. I think they should be featuring even more in this passing offense even than they're doing.

[A]

Yeah, I, I agree with that. Let's go to game number two, packers at Browns. I think we have a pretty good guess as to how this game is gonna go for the Browns offense against, you know, the way this packers defenses look so far. So let's focus on the other side. Cleveland has actually played good defense this year. They totally shut down the running game in Baltimore. Obviously the Bengals usually start slow, but the defense did limit the Bengals in week one as well. When Joe Burrow was still healthy. So while the Cleveland's had a really good defense this year, the packers offense maybe not on the same level as their defense. It's been a well oiled machine so far. We now have some injury question marks there that weren't there when I created this question a couple of days ago earlier in the week. Fitz, I'll start with you. Just as the packers fan, you know, what do you expect out of the battle specifically of the packers offense against the Cleveland defense, especially now that there's this Tucker Kraft injury.

[D]

So before I answer this real quick story. My daughter, the oldest of our two children was born on a Sunday morning and on the day she was born, the packers played the Browns in Cleveland. It was Brett Favre versus Trent Dilfer and lo and behold, Trent Dilfer one. He threw for 336 yards and three touchdowns. Browns tight end Steve Hyden had 104 yards and two touchdowns. Browns won 2624. It was the first of their six wins that season. The packers went on to have their worst season since the 1980s. They were 4 and 12. I didn't watch a minute of that packers loss to the Browns. I was in a hospital room and it's probably the only Packer game I've completely missed since I was in college. The reason I bring this up is that our daughter just turned 20 yesterday. Yes, I'm Happy birthday. Thank you. I'm an old man with a 20 year old daughter, but I found it sort of interesting that right after her 20th birthday the packers are once again playing in Cleveland. So will this game go better for the packers than the one in 2005 did? Man, I sure hope so. I I do think this Green Bay defense is a little better than their 2005 defense was. But can this packers offense move the ball and put up a lot of points against a pretty good Browns defense? I think it might be a struggle, honestly, like Jordan Love is going to be with without at least one of his pass catchers, possibly two like Jaden Reed broke his clavicle last week and tight end Tucker Kraft sustained some sort of knee injury in practice on Thursday. It's believed to be minor, but it's not clear whether he's going to play this week. So the Green Bay passing game could be down a few weapons and packers running back Josh Jacobs goes against a Cleveland defense that's giving up 2.1 yards per carry so far this season. So I think this could be a pretty low scoring affair.

[A]

DBRO when you look at the the packers offense, do you think that way? How do you think they're going to do against this, this defense? And B, do you think that like let's, let's assume just for the sake of argument that Kraft doesn't play or at the very least is limited. Do you think that opens the door with. With Kraft and Reed possibly not there for golden to kind of finally take a step forward and get more of an opportunity?

[C]

I don't see the golden breakout game like he's not even a full time player. They're not utilizing him in this offense. I do think that the packers do. I'm not going to say role in this one, but I think we're kind of selling their passing offense a little bit short. Like I think the fact that they've been so run heavy and if I'm at lafleur and I'm designing up the offensive game plan and how to attack this, this defense, we need to lean into the passing game and we need to lean put more on the shoulders of Jordan Love who guys he's quietly playing amazing football. Like amongst all quarterbacks, he's third yards per attempt. He's fourth and pass rating, he's fifth in CPOE right now. The fact that what's holding down all of his counting stats is that he's 27 in dropbacks. This is the game in the matchup to, to ratchet up the passing volume. Yes. Like not having Tucker Kraft is not great. But they still have Luke Musgrave. Okay. And he's healthy right now from all reports. So they can get production out of the tight end position. But even the wide receivers, you still got Don Tavian Wicks, you still got Romeo Dobbs. You still have other guys on, on that depth chart that are incredibly talented and could beat single high coverage, which is what you need to do. So Cleveland, like their run defense has been amazing. Their past defense quietly hasn't been awesome. Like they've allowed the second most passing touchdowns and the fourth highest pass rating. So while I, I'm worried about Josh Jacobs, like can he get there on volume and touchdowns? Absolutely. Sure can. But if I'm LaFleur, you lean into the passing game dude like you, you unleash Jordan Love. Feed some more volume this passing attack and I think you have the weapons to sit here and have a really good game.

[D]

And just to be clear, we don't know for a fact as we record this it Tucker Craft is out.

[C]

They're gonna kind of assume he's not gonna play like with this getting announced lately.

[D]

You would think.

[C]

Yeah, they're being extremely like cloak and dagger. Like oh, it's a, it's a tweak. It's his knee. We don't, I mean it's not that bad. But no other kind of details. At least as of, you know, recording.

[D]

This as, as we record this Friday morning. We just don't have full clarity yet.

[A]

Fitz, I, I think the last time I looked at the line was eight and a half. Given your history with Packers Browns and daughter birthdays, would you take the Brown side of that?

[D]

The pool I'm in where I have to pick every game against the spread I've taken the packers just because I can't see the Browns offense really doing anything this week.

[A]

Yeah. I mean despite the injury stuff and despite how well the Browns defense has played. Yeah. It's just hard to believe coming off of the first. It's only the first two weeks but I mean the packers look like the best team in football through the first two weeks. The Browns maybe looks better than people had him, you know, estimated to be this year, but they are still the Browns. The offense still look bad and when.

[D]

Flacco gets pressure, he commits turnovers.

[A]

Yep. Yeah. I can't imagine the Browns short of getting a lucky like short field that helps them. I can't imagine them getting to double digit points in this.

[C]

Remember that we were living in that world of the end of draft season where everybody's posting the last 16 game splits of Joe Flacco and talking about he's better than people realize and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

[A]

There will be no Joe Flat.

[D]

I mean he puts up yards but.

[C]

Because they, they only freaking pass the ball. It's volume, right? It's it ugly volume.

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[C]

I'm going to take Nico, but I'm going to be very transparent about this.

[D]

I don't feel great about either one.

[C]

Of these guys like this Jacksonville pass defense is much better than people I think thought it was going to be. Entering this season, CJ Stroud has looked continue to look pretty bad And Brian Thomas Jr. Is probably going to see shadow coverage from Derek Stingley. So I don't feel great about either one of these guys. I'll go with Nico, but again you're running them out there but my confidence level is not high for either one.

[A]

Where do you have them ranked respectively this week?

[C]

I mean dude, I still think like they're going to get a ton of volume. So like I've got Nico as a wide receiver one I've got Brian Thomas Jr. As a top 15 wide receiver. Although I'm kind of I'm probably going to revisit the primer. I'm going to write him up and I'm probably going to drop him in ranks a little bit. Like the vibes in Jacksonville are bad and Derek Stingley is freaking awesome.

[A]

Nico's wide receiver 8 in the expert consensus rankings. Thomas is still wide receiver 11 in the expert expert consensus rankings. So they're Both inside wide receiver 1 range. Fitz, who do you like better?

[D]

I also have Nico Frank Tire. I'm one behind ECR on both guys and like tbro I think I might have BTJ ranked too high. I'm worried about that Stingley matchup. I'm I'm less worried about Nico overall for the season. Although I am kind of terrified that that Houston offensive line just short circuits everything they're trying to do with the passing game. It's still really bad.

[A]

I want to throw just some like starter sit decisions your guys way with these names that I didn't prep you for. So just kind of shooting from the hip here, but just names that are close to them in ecr. Would you rather start Debro, Nico Collins or Zay Flowers?

[C]

Say not even close.

[A]

Same for you, Fitz.

[D]

No, I'm still starting Nico. It is close.

[A]

Oh, go ahead. How about Brian Thomas Jr. Or Devonte Adams?

[C]

Fitz Adams. Oh, sorry.

[D]

That's okay. As of now, I've got BGJ ranked higher, but that might change.

[A]

Admittedly, the reason I didn't ask you Devro is because I knew your answer was going to be Devontae Adams. I didn't ask you that one. Well, let me ask you this then. D row just quickly on Thomas and we'll move on like because I want to see kind of how far this potential drop for you will go. So some of the names after Adams in ECR. Mike Evans, Roma Dunze, Garrett, Wilson, Lad McConkey, A.J. brown. Are those all names you would consider over Brian Thomas Jr. Or does he belong in that group?

[C]

I think A.J. brown is the one that stands out that people could be surprised about, but I we'll get to it here in a little bit. I think A.J. brown's gonna have a really big day, so I'll definitely take him. Him versus Mike Evans is all is a very interesting conversation because Mike Evans might get shadow coverage from Sauce, so both these guys may be going to see shadow coverage from two of the top corners in the NFL. Although Baker seems like he does not care and Igbuka is banged up. So it's probably still going to force the ball to him. So probably still take Evans.

[A]

I had a second question on this game. Basically the same question, but just for the quarterbacks instead of the receivers. So who's more likely to have a big day, C.J. stroud or Trevor Lawrence? D bro.

[C]

Trevor Lawrence. I mean, so this kind of goes back to C.J. stroud has been struggling. Like right now he is amongst 34 qualifying quarterbacks. He's 33rd in CPOE, he's 27th and highly accurate throw rate and he's 28th in catchable target rate. Like so they're doing a lot of bad things in Houston right now. Like I think Nick Caylee is honestly a terrible oc like playing Xavier Hutchinson and Justin Watson over your two talented rookies is blasphemous. It's ignorance but even just talking about how he's playing with a quarterback. The other thing about Trevor Lawrence fan is this Houston past defense is not playing up to the standard I think we all thought that we were going to see entering the season like their middle of the pack and almost everything that I look at, They've allowed the 12th highest pass rating and their pass ratio hasn't been good. And this is, I mean the Buccaneers were trotting out like a ragtag makeshift offensive line that was banged up injured and still Texans are 22nd impression rate. I don't think anybody saw that coming. So I think it's actually going to be a better day for T Law Fitzy.

[A]

Do you like better at quarterbacks?

[D]

Stroud? Like I still think the Texans are a tough matchup. They will crank up that pressure rate Debra with Will Anderson and Danielle Hunter like I'm not worried about that. And also like Stroud has been terrific against the Jaguars early in his career. In four career starts against Jacksonville, Stroud has averaged 292.8 passing yards with seven touchdowns and no interceptions. Like he just he owns the Jaguars. Man.

[A]

Let's go to Bengals at Vikings Battle of the backup quarterbacks which offense has a better day, Minnesota under Wentz or Cincinnati under Browning? Fitz, I'll start with you on this.

[D]

I'm gonna say Wentz. So U.S. bank Stadium in Minneapolis is just one of the hardest places to play in the league for visitors. And the Vikings just laid a complete egg at home last Sunday night, losing 22 to 6 to the Falcons. I doubt a team as well coached as Minnesota with Kevin o' Connell and Brian Flores plays two really bad games in a row at home and I suspect they're going to be breathing fire this week. Flores is going to dial up all sorts of blitzes against Jake Browning. We know that and Browning's a good backup. But coming in cold and seeing that kind of pressure in a loud stadium where the blitzers are flying from unpredictable places like I think it's going to be a tough day for the Bengals singles.

[A]

What do you think? D Bro, you're based on your audible reaction, maybe you disagree.

[C]

I I just have a hard time believing in Carson Wentz like I believe in KOC and I believe in Minnesota, but it's hard for me to get behind.

[A]

I was gonna say is Carson Wentz any worse than pre Minnesota Sam Darnold? I mean it's a joke of a quarterback.

[D]

Or how about JJ McCarthy the first few weeks, like, no, this is.

[C]

Dude, I mean, let's have an honest conversation. That Minnesota offensive line is not playing well. Well, they're getting Carson Wentz is going to, going to play well behind that offensive line.

[D]

Darasaw, Dara Saws.

[C]

If Darris Saw is back, like, yeah, it's better, but yeah, still going to be without their center. Their guards have played horribly.

[D]

Like, caveat. All bets are off for me on the Vikings offense being better if Dara Saw doesn't come back and they don't have him to help block Trey Hendrickson.

[C]

Yeah, like, I mean, like this, this is kind of for me, it's. I don't have a lot of faith in Carson Wentz. Like the last two starting opportunities we've seen from him, like, dude, he's had 5.7 yards per attempt, 6.7 yards per attempt. He's had highly accurate throw rates of 35% and 16%. Like, that's terrible. So I mean, like, if we want to put this all at the feet of Kevin o' Connell and saying, hey qb, whisper, whisper some nice things in his ear, like, sure, like, I'm, I'm here for that, but I'm gonna go Browning for this. And like, look, I, I'm not saying he's gonna have an amazing day against Brian Flores in that defense. Like, I think it could be rough, but for Jake Bryan and there's some Jameis Winston here, man, like, we're gonna get a lot of like passing volume. He's gonna have a lot of like really head scratching plays, but he's also gonna have a ton of volume. He's got two of the best wide receivers in the NFL and we have seen, I mean the last time we saw him as a starter, dude, like, he was the QB7 and fantasy points per game. Like, so I, I'm gonna lean on Jake Browning and the supporting cast. I think this is a really interesting conversation in the sense of you have two really good supporting casts, questionable offensive lines. It really comes down to who do you think supporting cast plays up better? Like, considering the quarterback play, I'm going to trust Cincinnati a little bit more than Carson Wentz.

[A]

Well, the other piece of the puzzle is the defense, which fits it on. And I, I, a backup in Minnesota against Brian Flores, you know, worries because, because remember, the question isn't like, which quarterback scores more famous. Which offense has a better day?

[D]

Jordan Mason.

[A]

Like I. Jordan Mason. I was gonna say, I think Jordan Mason will run, will run on, on the Bengals.

[C]

And so if Jordan Iceland has a monster day is then they're going to take the ball out of the hands of Carson Wentz and we're going to try. Yeah, I mean sure.

[D]

Yeah. I mean I, I agree it is.

[A]

In but the question is which offense has a better day.

[D]

Not no question. I think it's in Kevin o' Connell's best interest to try to hide Carson Wentz as much as possible and I think that means like 20 plus carries for Jordan Mason.

[A]

Yeah, I, I'm more it's less that I'm like really gung ho about the Minnesota offense and this one and more that like I am nervous about Browning particular scenario where the game is being played the defensive coordinator is going against that just worries me more.

[D]

Running is going to get van Gankled this weekend.

[A]

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[C]

Yeah, at this point man, like I just, I, I've had a hard time like reconciling how much talent they have on this side of the ball and how horrible they have played. Like it's, it's been kind of shocking to see like I mean Joey Porter being hurt. I think definitely plays into this. But the run defense has been horrible that like you still have Jalen Ramsey and Darius Slay. They look like they can't, they can't tackle anybody. They can't stop anybody through the air. They can't stop any rushing attack. Like yeah, this is one of the defenses. Like if you were to ask me pre week one, what's the defense that I'm going to be scared to play to rock or plug in players against in lineups against I would have told you the Steelers would have been like a top five like name on that list of like oh I'm, I'm frightened about this and after two weeks I'm like bro, just start everybody. I guess like They've forgotten how to play defense. Like, is this the. I mean, dude, I don't want to say this the beginning of the end of Mike Tomlin, but I mean, come on man, like for a hard nosed coach and stuff like that, like this defense is playing as terribly as they are, it's tough to watch.

[A]

What do you think, Fitz?

[D]

Steelers beat writer Mike defabo pointed out this week that the Steelers have the highest paid defense in the league by almost $24 million. So fans in Pittsburgh have not been getting their money's worth. So far the Steelers have given up the third most yards and the fourth most points. But I don't think the Steelers are a defense we're going to be picking on in fantasy. Like they're banged up. Debro said it their best Cornerback, Joey Porter Jr. The hamstring injury. Alex Highsmith, key linebacker, has a high ankle sprain. With no Highsmith, opponents can basically just run away from TJ Watt and then like you got my guy from my other guy from Wisconsin, Nick Herbig on the other side. Herbig is a banshee off the edge, but he's also kind of undersized so you can run at him a little bit. And Steelers have been letting a lot of big pass plays go up the middle especially. So, yeah, I mean the Pittsburgh D has some issues right now, but I don't think it'll be this bad all year.

[A]

So you do think they'll, they'll kind.

[D]

Of figure it out? Like, yeah, like we're not going to be, we're not going to be licking our chops like when we've got a running back going against the Steelers like in week 10. That's just not going to happen.

[A]

Okay, I have a second question on this game. Really? I mean, I feel like we just kind of have to talk about Henderson. We all want Travion to be the man in this backfield, but Ramon Dre Stevenson had a much better week to the very least and obviously has been getting like the usage. So Debro, I'll ask you first, where are you ranking the two Patriots running backs this week again? I'm kind of curious to see like what the gap is between them.

[C]

Ramandre is RB19 for me and Travion is RB36. Ramandre owns the backfield, dude. Like he's at 65% of the snaps and back to back games. I don't see that changing. Like, do you think Mike Vrabel is going to take the ball out of his hands to put it into the rookies hands considering they've put up points. Ramandre has quietly been extremely good. Like amongst 50 qualifying backs. This dude is 18th and explosive run rate and 14th in yards at a contact per attempt. So I, I don't think this is the breakout Trayvon game. Maybe it is and he breaks like a long run and stuff like that, but I don't think the backfield is going to like shift in his favor this week.

[A]

So Fitz DBRO is roughly in line on with consensus on Trayvon Henderson. He is well ahead of consensus on Ramandre Stevenson by 10 spots. He's already 29.

[C]

He's RB19 and fantasy points per game. So I'm just putting respect on his name.

[A]

So what do you think, Fitz?

[D]

Yeah, Warm. You said we all want Travion Henderson to be the man in this backfield and maybe my rankings this week are sort of a product of that wishful thinking. I've got Stevenson RB30 and Henderson RB31. And I know the workload split suggests that the gap should be bigger than that. You know, Stevenson has out snapped Henderson 85 to 44 this season. Stevenson didn't really do much in Week 1, like 27 yards from scrimmage, I think. But he had 54 rushing yards, 88 receiving yards last week against the Dolphins. Henderson still has that enticing big play ability, but obviously the odds of breaking off a big play shrink with a smaller snap count. And like, what's weird is that Henderson's pass blocking has been an issue even though he was regarded as maybe the best pass blocker among all this year's rookie running backs. But I guess what encourages me with Henderson is that he's already got eight catches for 54 yards. Like he's getting usage in the passing game. And for that reason I think he's still playable this week, if not completely bankable.

[A]

All right, let's go to Rams at Eagles. You know, for it being a game that's like a rematch of a playoff matchup, that was a really good game, you know, last postseason. I feel like, like this is kind of a boring, It's a boring game to think about in terms of like start sit decisions, right? Like I think all of your line of decisions are, are largely pretty straightforward on this. So I want to ask about the game from a betting angle. The spread is Eagles -3 and a half on Hard Rock bet. So I'm just curious which side you guys like Fitz will start with. You Eagles minus three and a half and then the on the total which is 44 and a half. Are you going over or under? And then lastly, if there are any player props you like.

[D]

Yeah. The line and total both seem really spot on. So I'm not betting this game, but in that pool where I have to pick every game, I reluctantly took the Eagles to cover the three and a half. Only thing I really like for player props and I actually don't know if I'm going to bet this, but I was looking at Tyler Higby under 22 and a half yards. Like the Eagles are just good against tight ends and Higby just does not strike me as any sort of, you know, integral part of the game plan for the Rams.

[A]

I won't hold you to it as an official bet, but if you had to pick over or under the total, would you.

[D]

I.

[A]

Do you have a direction?

[D]

I go over. I mean McVeigh knows what he's doing and I kind of think that the Eagles offense is going to get on track pretty soon here.

[A]

Okay. Not an official bet recommendation from Fitz.

[D]

But I'm forced to make recommendation. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So same three questions to you, D Bro. Eagles minus three and a half is the spread totals 44 and a half and then any player props you like.

[C]

I'm not touching the spread or the total. If I had to take one of them. I actually think the Rams are live to win this game and I, I would, I would bet the over on the total but yeah, but I mean I think they're both really good lines and stuff.

[A]

The.

[C]

The. The player prop I want to mention here man. Like A.J. brown over 61 and a half receiving yards at Hard Rock. Bet this is minus 115. I. I think A.J. brown is going to have an eruption game here man. Like you look at the coverage matchup ton of single high like he last year versus single high. This dude had a 36% target share 3.9 yards per route run. I know that the box scores haven't lined up. You look at some of the deeper analytics. Like week one it was very concerning dude. Week week two this guy was third amongst all wide receivers with at least like 10 routes. He was third in separation and first and route win rate. So the talent is still there. And them losing a Kello Witherspoon last week was huge in this game. Like tell me AJ Brown is not gonna Moss freaking Emmanuel Forbes this week. Like Forbes has not been good in the secondary. This pushes Darius Williams into the starting lineup. I am confidently going to be firing up AJ Brown and with some teams Embedding the over for his receipt.

[D]

Think about if that's the matchup. Think about those two body types. AJ Brown looks like he was chiseled out of granite and Emmanuel Forbes is like built like a pretzel.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. So AJB over receiving yards. Let's go.

[A]

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[D]

I'm treating them the same way I would if Justin Fields were healthy. Like Tyrod Taylor isn't bad. He came in cold last week, went 7 of 11 for 56 yards and a touchdown. Taylor put up respectable numbers when he had to make some starts for the Giants in 2023. Like I know Taylor's ECR is like QB 29. I don't know man. Against a pass funnel Buccaneers defense. Like I think he could have a decent game. So I've got Garrett Wilson Wide receiver 14 Breece Hall RB 18.

[A]

What do you think DBRA?

[C]

I'm with Fitzy on this man. Like I've got Breece a little bit lower. Like right now I've got him at RB20. The matchup is pretty bad. Like Tambay is still stopping the run at a high rate. I mean he's really going to have to get there in the past game utility, but he's on more of this backfield. I'm not worried about Garrett Wilson at all man. Like I what Fitzy talked about like Tyrod has played better and I think he's going to play better than people are going to give him credit. I've got him at wide receiver 12. And the other thing about this Tampa Bay Buccaneers past defense, they they haven't been great man. Like They've allowed the 9th most passing yard, 7th highest yards per attempt and the 9th highest success rate per drop back. I think Tyrod's going to put up some good numbers here and I think Garrett's going to be perfectly fine.

[A]

Foreign I'm really curious to see what you guys say about this one. Indy's offense is one of the, you know, kind of fun early surprises of the season. So on a scale of 1 to 10, how confident are you in this continuing? Both asking the question for week three and then asking the same question Scale one to ten how confident are you in this continuing throughout the rest of the season? Because we have seen in the past, like the Saints are a good example last year, you know, dropping 40 points each of the first two games obviously completely fell off a cliff. So I'm curious kind of what you guys think again both about this week's matchup and the long term outlook for the Colts offense. I'll start with you Fitz on this.

[D]

One, so I'll give it a six for this week, but for the full season I'm only going to give it a 2. Like the reason I'm cautiously optimistic about Jones this week is that he has been getting great protection from his offensive line, so that unit is really clicking right now. He has had plenty of time to throw and he has only been sacked twice even though the Colts have faced A League high 37 blitzes this year. So this is going to be his first road game. Maybe it's a little more challenging because of that, but the Titans aren't, you know, a super imposing matchup. Long term though, I'm very skeptical of Daniel Jones. I mean the guy has 47 interceptions and 50 fumbles in 72 career games. 6.6 yards per attempt for his career. Like he's capable of giving us a pleasantly surprising season like he did in 2022. But it's not going to be this good all year. It's just not. I mean, like he said, three touchdown runs in two games. Obviously he's not going to run for 20 plus touchdowns this season.

[A]

Yeah, I would think not. Daniel Jones is ranked as a QB1 this week in expert consensus rankings. DBro, what do you think about this matchup for the week and then beyond?

[C]

I've got like a seven, maybe an eight for this week just because I I don't have any faith in the Tennessee defense. You know, devondre Sweat is banged up, luxurious needs probably gonna miss this game. That definitely helps Michael Pittman. I think Tyler Warren is going to be fine. So I think the Colts roll in this one, but the rest of the season, yeah, it's, it is definitely reasonable to be skeptical of this team. I mean look at the matchups. Daniel Jones is playing really good Football, but they're not asking him to do a lot outside of like the, the system. You look at the upcoming matchups like they get the Rams, the Raiders. I mean you can have your way with the Raiders, but then they get the Cardinals, the Chargers, Titans, Steelers, Falcons, Chiefs. Like there's a lot of really good past defenses in there. So maybe Daniel Jones turns back into a pumpkin. So probably like a 5 or 4 confidence rest of the season. Maybe that's a little bit too generous. I don't know. We'll see.

[A]

For rest of season. What's your interest dbro in pass catchers on this team not named Tyler Warren? Do you have a favorite that stands out based on what you've seen the first couple weeks or are you just.

[C]

Kind of avoiding all Hitman because he's getting the target share and he's going to be used? Josh Downs isn't even a full time player still in their offense now with maybe that's injury, maybe that's Tyler Warren, maybe that's more, you know, two tight end sets and what have you. But I think Pittman and Alec Pierce has been a ghost. I mean he's honestly a bad archetype fit with Daniel Jones anyway. So yeah, it's, it's Pittman and Tyler Warren and JT and the rest of them.

[A]

Pitman for you two fits if you had to.

[D]

Oh yeah. The only one besides Warren.

[A]

Only one. All right, let's, let's go to Raiders at Commanders. I, I put together the sheet a little earlier this week and it was still uncertain about Jane Daniel, so I didn't really ask about that. It does appear as of this morning that it's trending towards him not playing. He's not on the practice field again Friday morning. So you know, we, we would assume that he is not in this game and it's Mariota. But the question I put together is on the Raiders side of things, this is now two inefficient, unproductive outings from Ash and Genti. I think we would mostly put the blame on the guys around him in the offense for, you know, not blaming Genti himself as a player but even if it's not entirely his fault. I am curious what your panic meter level is if you drafted him Inside the top 15 picks this season just from what we have seen from the offense around him.

[C]

DBro, I'm not panicking just yet. It's been two games. The offensive line has not played good at all. Like they have the fifth lowest yards before contact per attempt. Like point Four, nine. He's not even getting a full yard in front of him. A free space before he is hit. He's getting hit a ton in the backfield. I'm hoping the offensive line can play better. I mean, they're playing so bad right now. It's like, okay, well if we're just hoping for just natural progression, they got nowhere to go but up from here. So I think. And the other thing is like, you look at the matchups like, yeah, the commanders this week, but the upcoming schedule does get lighter where I think we could see better days for. So if anything for Genty, this is by low, not panic. They get the Bears, the Colts and the Titans. All three of those teams in the upcoming schedule. You can run on all three of those teams. So we just need Pete to stop like mixing in Dylan Lobby. Like, what. What are we doing here? Come on. Dylan lobbies Amira White like, no, just put more Genti out there. I get the pass. Pro stuff like rookie's got to learn it but can't learn it from sitting on the sideline.

[A]

Fitz, what's your level on the panic meter here?

[D]

Just a three. And it's. Any panic I have is entirely related to the offensive line. Like, it is bad that they're like dead last in adjusted line yards as a run blocking metric. But it's only been two games and one of those games is against a pretty good Chargers run defense. Like, we're not at all unhappy about the usage, even with those annoying Zamir White and Dylan lobby touches. Like 30 carries and five catches so far for Genty. Like, I'll. I'll take that. So I. I don't think we should be too worried.

[C]

And Jesse is good. That's the other part about this. Like, if you're watching the games, he looks like you.

[A]

It's not a reflection of him as a player for sure.

[D]

He makes guys.

[A]

I asked this D bro on the Thursday start sit show and the guys were split. Who would you rather start this week, Ash and Genti or Jordan Mason? Jake said Genty and. And Fitz said Mason.

[C]

Mason. It's the matchup and he's getting all the backfill. Worry about Ty Chandler. Freaking Cam Acres. It's Mason.

[A]

Yeah. All right, let's go to the late afternoon slate Eastern time for Sunday. Broncos at Chargers. Two really good defenses in this one pick. One player on each offense that you expect to outperform expectations this week. Fitz, you can go first.

[D]

I like Courtland Courtland Sutton to bounce back from sort of a quiet game. Last week, four targets, just one catch, six yards. But he was fine in week one. Nine targets, six for 61 and a touchdown. So I think he'll be fine again this week for the Chargers. I actually got a. I need help from my gate Dibro since he's the matchup specialist here. Debro, who do you think Riley Moss is lined up against for most of the game? Because that's the matchup I want. Is it, is it Keenan Allen?

[C]

I think it's probably gonna be Keenan. Yeah. Keenan was my pick here because I think certain is gonna get. Is gonna follow qj. Looking at how the Chargers attack single high and man coverage. So yeah, Keenan. Keenan's my pick. Man.

[A]

Is on the, on the Broncos side though.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, so I'll flesh that out a little bit more like Keenan. I think he's gonna have a better game than people are going to give him. Like, like, first of all, like, can we also say, like, there's some disrespect in ECR and stuff? Like this dude is the wide receiver 12 in fantasy points per game. I'm not saying that he should be ranked as a wide receiver one, but in the wide receiver three territory is kind of dismissive.

[D]

He's got three more targets than the lad right now.

[C]

I know. And so I mean like. And he's going to keep getting the volume. So I mean, he's the guy. If it's not QJ versus because the two staples of the Denver defense are single high coverage and man coverage, you're going to get both of those at least 45% of the day. If it's not the ball's not going to QJ versus both of those coverage structures, it's going to Keenan Allen. He is the number two option in the passing attack against single high and man coverage. And people could be surprised by that, but it's a fact. So I think Keenan Allen's going to have a really strong day. The, the other guy on the other side I'm going to pick here is Troy Franklin. And I'm, I'm willing to say here that could we get the rug pull from Sean Payton where we've seen this before, we've lived this, this reality before where we thought Troy Franklin was a full time player. We lived in that reality last year, week six through seven, he played 65 and 50% of the snaps. And then for the rest of the season he didn't sniff higher than a 46 snap rate for the rest of the season. So could we get the rug pole Fine, that could happen. But we also need to talk about. This year's a little bit different for Troy Franklin in that out the gate. He played 59% of the snaps in week one, 82% of the snaps in week two. You look at the, the coverage structure for the Bolts, too high heavy. And so far this year, Troy Franklin has eaten too high alive. Like he's got a 22% target share and a 30% first reach here. I actually think this could be a down game for Corland Sutton and another good game for Troy Franklin. But it's, it's tough because we just don't know if the usage is going to like maintain with Sean Payton because we only got two games here.

[A]

Fitz, we talked about Franklin a little bit on the Thursday show, but for those who missed it, what do you think about him this week?

[D]

Yeah, I mean, I think he's a playable, like flex level option. I mean, so far the snaps and the targets have been there. But like Debro said, you always worry about the rug pull and that, you know, all of a sudden Sean Payton decides to play Pat Bryant 80% of the snaps this week. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Let's go to Saints at Seahawks. Ken Walker had fewer carries than Zach Charbonnet for the second straight week. But unlike in week one, in week two he way outperformed Charbonnet. Predict what the backfield workload will look like for both players here in week 3D, bro.

[C]

I mean, as of recording this right now, I don't even know if Charbonnet plays. He's dealing with a foot injury. He didn't practice on Wednesday or Thursday. So this could be Ken Walker wheels up. Like he could get the 60 snap rate. Like I think they're gonna, they're gonna work in another running back here. I don't think it's going to be Ken Walker 80 to 90% of the snaps. I think Seattle is being very deliberate about how they're ramping him up, how they're using him. But dude, I, we've gotten Ken Walker that I thought we were going to get Kim Walker this year in the sense that like Right now, amongst 35 qualifying backs, he is top 15 in yards of the contact per 10, explosive run rate, nistacles forced. He's actually top seven in two of those metrics. So this could be just a monster game for Ken Walker.

[A]

So I, when I put, I told you I put together this sheet a little earlier in the week. At the time the are they playing tool on fantasy pros had a higher odds for Charbonnet that has gone down with the new information of, you know, not practicing, you know, throughout the week. That's down to a 15% chance to play. So that's a good, good correction by you that it probably won't be him on the field. We don't know 100% for sure as of recording this, but it certainly has gone further in that direction of him not playing this week. So I'll kind of pivot the question for you, Fitz. Assuming Charbonnet is not on there, what kind of game are you expecting out of Walker?

[D]

A good one. Yeah, he has looked fantastic. Boy, the second half of that game against the Steelers, I mean, he just looked absolutely electric. So right now I have Kenneth Walker ranked 16th, and that's with the expectation that Charbonnet plays.

[C]

If.

[D]

Man, if he's. I. I think I'll probably move him up to 12 if Charbonnet is out. Yeah, like, I mean, I've got Josh Jacobs at 10, and I had Devon HN at 11, and he's already played, so I would probably slot in Walker right behind hn, ahead of Chase Brown.

[C]

I'm moving him up right now just assuming Charbonnet is going to be out. I have him at RB13 right now.

[A]

Yeah. If Charbonnet is 100 out, I'm, like, looking at, you know, the expert consensus rankings, which is funny because I would definitely have him ahead of people.

[D]

People did not want to play Kenneth Walker after week one, and. And now he's, like, going to be ranked as an RB one potentially.

[C]

So if you went and traded for him after people freaked out in week one, congrats.

[D]

Just like, I don't think people should be freaked out about Charbonnet after the bad game in Week 2. Like, when he comes back, it's still going to be like, a 55, 45 split in this backfield.

[C]

Yeah, he's still going to stay involved. I think Ken Walker could take over the snap lead, but I. I agree. Charbonnet is probably still gonna have a role.

[A]

I think Walker needs to be inside the top 10 if Charbonnet's out. Honestly, that's. I would expect a huge game out of him in that scenario. All right, let's go to the next game here. Cowboys at Bears. Roma Dunes had by far the best game of his young career last week. Was that the breakout we've been waiting for Fitz? And is it something that we can expect to continue against a bad Dallas defense?

[D]

Like, I wouldn't be surprised if it continued. Like, the setup is great. This week a High Vegas total 49 and a half last I checked. No Duron Bland for the Cowboys, their best cornerback and the Bears second year secondary is really injury riddled too. So you know the Bears are probably going to have to throw to keep up in this game. We're going to see points in Chicago on Sunday. I'm pretty convinced of that. But, but right now Roma Dunes is out targeting DJ Moore by about a 2 to 1 margin. Like it's possible Odunsay has more targets than DJ Moore this year, but I don't think it's going to be by a 2 to 1 margin all season. That's the, that's the reason I'm hesitating a little bit on Odunes and I, I've got him ranked pretty far below consensus. I've got him ranked, you know, as a pretty much unquestioned starter. But I just, I think everyone wants to make Romo Dunes a made man right now. And I'm, I'm not quite there yet.

[C]

You're not saying it's Joe Pesci, are you? He walks into the office like, ah, no.

[D]

By the way, speaking, speaking of that. So it was just the, the anniversary, like the 35th anniversary of it.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I was just reading something really interesting about the casting for the role of Tommy. The two actors originally considered were John Malkovich and William Peterson. Joe Pesci. Joe Pesci was penciled in as Paulie, the Paul Sorvino role. But then when, when Malkovich and Peterson turned on the role, Pesci begged Martin Scorsese to play Tommy and Scorsese relented and let him.

[C]

Wow, dude, that's.

[D]

I know. Can you. Because you just can't imagine anyone other than Joe Pesci.

[C]

No. You can't imagine anybod him but Tommy.

[A]

Yeah. I love those like sliding doors moments where it's like it wasn't supposed to be this way and then it does and now it's like how could, did you ever, you know, look for anybody else besides this person that ended up in the role? It's too perfect.

[C]

As soon as you said made man, that's exactly where my head went. I was like, ah.

[A]

On, on Rome. So Fitz, when we talked yesterday, I was surprised you had him down at wide receiver 26 in your rankings for the week. He's wide receiver. I think it's 14 in ECR. Yeah, it's wide receiver, 14 and ECR. So that's like well below consensus. It looks like you've moved him up a little. Up to wide receiver 22. But you are still well below consensus and that's it.

[D]

I mean, agree it's a great spot for him, but I just, I don't know if we can count on him to like be the huge alpha target earner every week because like DJ Moore is good and I know the chemistry with DJ Moore and Caleb Williams has been off since last year and like the body language was bad for dj. Like something is not right there. But TJ Moore is still really good. Like would it shock anyone if he had the better day than Romo dunesday this week? So it should.

[A]

It wouldn't. It wouldn't.

[C]

Like, it shouldn't.

[A]

My jaw wouldn't be on the floor if that happened. I, I will just say, and obviously deeper I want to, I want to hear what you have to think. I feel like for me I'm just like, I loved Roma Dunes Day. The prospect, like, he's young. So I'm expecting him to take a step forward this year. It's a great matchup just in terms of like it's going to be high scoring and it's against a poor defense. So I'm just like, I don't want to overthink. I'm not saying that he needs to be as high as wide receiver 14. I do think that's like maybe a little high. But like I, I do think he should be inside the top 20 like coming off the game he just had against a bad defense as a good player. I just like, I want to buy in that this is real and I would rather, I would rather buy in that it's real and be, you know, sadly mistaken than, you know, skeptical and miss out on another big week, I guess is my approach to it. Debra, what do you think?

[C]

So I have Rome slightly below consensus at wide receiver 18. I still do have him as a top 24 guy. I will just for full transparency, boys. When I opened up the betting pros app this week, the first two bets I made were the overs for DJ Moore at Hard Rock Bet. I bet over four and a half receptions, minus 110 right now. You can still get and over 54 and a half receiving yards at minus 115. I think this is going to be a huge day for DJ Moore. If you look at the coverage stuff for DJ Moore, this screams DJ Moore Week, man. Like, overall he's had only a 16% target share and a 19 first reach here. Not good. You look at what Dallas does and with Eberflu's call and defensive plays 64% of the defensive snaps have been again with Too high coverage. DJ Moore this year against too high. 27% target share, 3.3 yards per route run and his first read share has skyrocketed to 36%.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

I think he's going to crush this week dude. Like I've got D.J. moore as a top 24 wide receiver. I bet his overs. I'm going to like I, I just if you can, if you can ladder bet him please do this week and enjoy it because like Fitz talked about this game environment. One of the few totals that we have outside of this in like Detroit, Baltimore that's gonna over 50 points and both of these defenses are banged up. They're giving up production. We just saw what Russell Wilson did. I'm not the biggest believer in Caleb Williams but good lord this is such a good spot. This is going to be a a firework filled game and I'm all in for DJ Moore.

[A]

DJ Moore is wide receiver 29 in ECR so bump him up. Debra's telling you that's way too bump.

[C]

Him up in the ranks please.

[A]

Last game in the late slate on Sunday. Cardinals at 49ers. Ricky Pearsall and Joanne Jennings are both ranked as back end wide receiver threes this week in the expert consensus rankings. Fitz, who do you expect to have a bigger week three?

[D]

I'll say Pearsall just because Jennings is dealing with an ankle injury like but I generally do like Pierce all a little more and we'll probably have him ranked higher most weeks.

[C]

Debra, if Jennings is a full go and he's he can operate like normal I'm gonna take Jennings here. Just I I thought it was not like overly concerning but like with Jennings first game back like he reassumed basically the role he had last year. Like the dude had a 23 target chair and a 31st read share. I'm like the way that it looks like they're using Piersol is kind of like in this mishmash kind of like Brandon Ayukish type of role where they like want to use him down the field and stuff. So like like taking health out of it and saying Jennings it can go and be like his normal self which I know is it's a lot of ifs there. I'll take Jennings but if he's banged up then I'll go Pierce all but I think all things in a vacuum I'll take Jennings.

[A]

In this same game Marvin Harrison Jr. Is ranked several spots higher than both Jennings and Piersol in ECR does that feel right to you that there's a wide gap there? I mean, it's, it's so far been another inconsistent start to a season for Harrison. D Ro do you think there should be a wide gap between Harrison's ranking and Jennings and Piercells?

[C]

I just. I don't know. Why? Like what, What? Hopium Copium? Or is everybody continuing to guzzle with Marvin Harrison Jr. Like, I just, I can't get there, man. Like, it's Kyler. It's this offense. It's the other part about this. Like, we are getting more of the horizontal breaking routes from Marvin. Like, like he's not doing much, man. Like, if anything, like we've seen Trey McBride is the clear alpha wide receiver one in that offense. Like, I feel like we're just still living all off of. Like everybody's just huffing all the hope fumes for. For Marvin Harrison Jr.

[D]

The, the only thing I'll say in Harrison's defense is that it's been low passing volume for the Cardinals right now because they've led in like 80% of their first two games. They had that win over the Saints where they just kind of kept the Saints at arm arm's length in week one, and then they had the big lead over the Panthers in week two where they were just trying futilely to kill clock and couldn't do it and kept giving the Panthers the ball back. So Bryce Young wound up throwing like 55 passes or whatever. But it's just. So, yeah, 38 pass attempts right now for Kyler. So with more passing volume, maybe things start to look a little bit better.

[C]

I mean, I, I don't disagree with you, Fitz, but like the other. If I take the name out of it, it take Marv's name out of it. Tell me if these numbers scream. Must start. Wide receivers like wide receiver two. So far this player has an 18.5 target share, 1.6 yards per route run, and a 22 first reach here.

[D]

You're right. I mean, fundamentally, is that wide receiver.

[C]

3 type of like numbers and not.

[D]

Wide receiver 2 fundamentally, nothing really different so far with Marvin Harris. Yeah, that is alarming. It's.

[C]

It's just. It's not great, man. Like when your top two options, like Michael Wilson's not doing any of this offense. Zay Jones ain't doing anything. Like, why can't he earn more volume?

[A]

Chiefs at Giants is Sunday Night Football's matchup. The Chiefs offense DBRO is kind of broken. Will they get right against the Giants?

[C]

I mean, specify. Get Right. Are they going to look better because of the defense? Okay, sure. Are they going to look like they're a good offense and they live up to everything that people want the Chiefs to be? No, like, so I, I think they could look better, but that's quite, I mean, you got to quantify it with who they're playing. I just, I, I don't know what, what happens better for the Chiefs. Like Xavier Worthy is probably not a full time snap player. Like Hollywood is still Hollywood Taekwondo. We know who he is. Like, sure, maybe he can beat one of these corners like deep down the field because of his speed. But like Checo and Kareem Hunt who get three yards and a cloud of nothing. Like there's just. Where's the explosive element? Like where. I don't know, man. Like I, I find myself more. I don't. This is not a get right game for Casey. This is maybe a look better game, but get right. I don't know when that happens on.

[A]

Hard Rock bet it's Chiefs minus six. I kind of like Giants plus the money.

[C]

I, I don't know. I think the Giants are alive to win this game and maybe I think they are too.

[A]

I mean we've seen like when the Chiefs offense is, you know, running hot and doing well that the, one of the keys to stopping them when they are, you know, playing at a high level is being able to rush the passer. And like that's the one thing you would expect the Giants to be able to do. I.

[C]

What is their offense doing well right now though?

[D]

Like Patrick Mahomes scrambling. That's it.

[C]

Yeah. He's running for his life. He is. The rushing offense, they can't run the ball outside of Patrick Mahomes. They can't pass the ball consistently whether it's short or deep. Like, like what are the Chiefs actually doing consistently well on offense? Like, that's. Somebody's got to tell me that because.

[A]

I like Giants plus six a lot. I mean even, even if not even setting aside like, oh, the Giants have a good pass rush and that's something that's frustrating Mahomes in the past. I'm like, I just don't see taking the Chiefs minus six against anybody right now. I don't know what they're doing that makes you think they're going to blow a team out. Even a team that we don't think is good in the Giants, but who is coming off at really high scoring games and warm.

[D]

I thought, like, I thought their offensive line was going to be better, but Like I, I guess Josh Simmons has not yet solved the left tackle problem for them and like the running game and if, if the Kansas City running game can't get it done against the Giants who ranked dead last in DVOA against the run and, and more than 8 yards per carry to Jacori Crosky merit in week one and gave up 97 yards and a touchdown to Javante Williams last week. Like if Isaiah Pacheco and Kareem Hunt can't do anything against this run defense, like that's a terrible sign and like hope hopefully the passing game looks a little bit better with Xavier worthy at least giving them some snaps this week we think. But man, like I'm, I'm kind of skeptical.

[A]

D. Would you rather bet giants plus 6 or plus 240 on the money line on Hard Rock bet.

[C]

I'll take Giants money line. Maybe I'm crazy, but I'll take the money line.

[A]

I don't think you're crazy, dude.

[C]

One last thing about the Chiefs, please. Andy Reid give some more snaps to Bashar Smith. Like Pacheco ain't got it. Kareem Hunt ain't got it. You need, you need something of an explosive element. Like maybe Burchard Smith isn't that dude. But you gotta find out because you know both these other guys aren't it. Man.

[A]

The, the only reason I don't like, like that I'd rather bet take the, you know, the plus points for the Giants rather than the money line is because it's really hard to imagine the Chiefs being Owen 3 and so I.

[C]

Do feel like they're owing to and they look terrible right now.

[A]

But, but it's, I mean just think about the Chiefs like and they still Mahomes and Andy Reid like and it is a, it is a bad team they're facing. Like I, I, it's just hard to, to imagine. But I don't think this is gonna be a blowout. Like I think this is gonna be a close game. I think six points is too many, too much. We'll, we'll see what happens. Let's go to Monday Night Football. A much more exciting game than Sunday Night football this week. Lions at Ravens. These two teams combined for 93 points scored in week two. They are the first and third highest scoring teams on the season respectively. Hard Rock Bet has the total at 52 and a half which is the highest of the week. Is it going over or under? And then also you guys know, I like to ask in these games where it's like Bonanza, Lots of offense, really excited, scoring right and left pick one player to fade and obviously a player who you would, you know, be considering starting. Not just like the fourth string tight end or something, but one player to fade in this game. And also, is it going over or under 52 and a half? Debra, what do you got?

[C]

I'll take the over only because the, the Lions offense looks like they're back. Like the Ravens still seem like they're struggling a little bit. I don't know if Nate Wiggins plays this game, so that's going to impact Baltimore. Their pass rush hasn't been amazing to this point. So I think you can put up points and, and quietly. I think the, the Lions could run the ball on the Ravens. Just looking at the matchups here. So I, I'll take the over. Although, I mean the total is sky high and I'll just, I'll grab the low hanging fruit here. It's Mark Andrews, man. Like, I don't understand why Baltimore is not utilizing, but they're not. And the Lions have defended tight ends pretty well. Like they've given up the 11th fewest fantasy points per game to tight ends. So if I'm fading one of the Baltimore Ravens this week, it's Mark Andrews. But I think there's gonna be a lot of scoring in this game.

[A]

I think this game is going to be played in the 60s. Like, I, I, I don't care that it's a high total. I, I think it's easily and over.

[C]

Can't push back easily.

[A]

Fitz, what do you think?

[D]

Yeah, I'm not betting it, but I'll say it goes over, we get the track meet we deserve and if I have to fade anyone, maybe I'll gently fade Derrick Henry. And I think I've cursed Derek Henry. Worm, I'm sorry, but like, I've never had Derrick Henry in any league. I drafted him in one league, but it's a league where we draft the day before the first Sunday of the NFL season. There have been two games played already, so we don't start our season until week two. And of course Derek Henry had that spectacular week one game against the Bills and I didn't get any of that. And I get him for his dud game against the Cleveland Browns last week. I'm worried he has another dud game against a really good Detroit defense, Detroit run defense this week. So, you know, for your sake, Worm, let's, let's hope that I am not cursing Derrick Henry by investing in him.

[A]

I only asked you guys about the total. But what do you think about, you know, the, the game itself? It's Lions plus four and a half. Do you like the Raven side or the Lions? Either of you.

[D]

I don't bet against the Ravens at home.

[A]

At home in prime time. Lamar is like pretty. Yeah. I mean they're wearing the all black uniforms too. That's worth another point.

[C]

It's the regular season, right? Yes, it's, it's, it's the regular season. Okay, that's. That's all I need to say here. That's all I need to say.

[D]

Little subtle shade there.

[C]

I, I just, I, I just asking. I'm just Fitzy. I'm just asking a question. Okay. Just asking a question. Okay.

[A]

Lamar in the postseason in the last, you know, five years.

[C]

Fight me on this. Like, what are you gonna.

[A]

I can fight you on. It's.

[C]

Yeah. Lamars look great, Mon.

[A]

You're holding his games. When he was with Greg roman and was 22 years old against him, he has been totally fine in the playoffs.

[C]

Last year in the playoffs, in the year before. Yeah.

[D]

What deep are always saying is get your shine box. Worm.

[A]

He. He has been totally fine in the playoffs the last two years. He lost to the Chiefs and the Bills. Those are great teams. It's not like, you know, early on in his career, yeah, they lost to the succeeded Titans, but he was just 21 years old.

[C]

Guy asking questions. Worm just.

[A]

That's un. Unfair pointed questions, I would say. I, I'll. I'll make.

[C]

Hey, this is questions, right? Like that's what this.

[A]

I will make next week's Regardless of what I will make next week's key question in the Ravens game. Just a deep dive on my, my setup for the question will be a deep dive on why the playoff narrative is bogus for Lamar.

[C]

We're going to have 30 minutes on the Ravens and then we got 30 minutes for the other 15 games.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

Okay, cool.

[A]

All right, we'll wrap things up there. Really excited for that one. I mean, that's going to be a super fun game Monday night. I feel like it's kind of a less exciting week. I don't know if you guys feel the same. There's like not a lot of matchups that I'm overly pumped about, so it's kind of fun. See, I'm kind of iffy on this slate, but I think it obviously it ends really well with Lions. Ravens is going to be a super fun one. So we'll wrap things up there for Debro and Fitz. I'm Ryan Wormley. Thanks everybody for tuning in. Good luck in week three with all your lineup decisions. If you have any more questions, hit us up on Discord Social Media, all those good places. We'll see you next time. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football Podcast. If you love the show, the best free way to support us is by leaving a positive review on apple [e-mail] review or on Spotify. Follow us on X Instagram and TikTok antasypros and subscribe to our YouTube channel at YouTube.com fantasypros.

[D]

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[C]

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