FantasyPros - The Biggest Fantasy Football Questions For Each Team in Week 4 (Ep. 1736)

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FantasyPros - The Biggest Fantasy Football Questions For Each Team in Week 4 (Ep. 1736)
September 27, 2025

Overview

This episode features Ryan Wormley, Pat Fitzmaurice, and Derek Brown (Debro) from FantasyPros diving deep into the biggest fantasy football questions for each NFL team heading into Week 4. The discussion is lively, filled with data, matchup analysis, and strong opinions on start/sit decisions, player usage, and projections, with an emphasis on actionable advice for fantasy managers. The conversation flows through the entire Week 4 slate, touching on every major storyline and player conundrum, with a mix of stats, film takeaways, and some playful debate.

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International Games and NFL Scheduling

[00:00–04:02]

• The panel critiques the spread of early international games:
  • Ryan: Opposes the NFL’s expansion of international games, especially multiple weeks in a row, preferring them as rare novelties. Highlights the value of football’s scarcity and specialness.
  • Debro: Questions the necessity; would prefer day double-headers, dislikes the diminishing novelty.
  • Fitz: Wants fewer international/overlapping Monday games. “I want Monday night games to be standalone games. … The overlapping Monday night games just really annoy me.” [02:38]
  • Debro and Fitz note issues with Friday or Saturday night games due to high school and college football conflicts.

Notable Moment:
Fitz: “I want to be able to watch all of whatever game there is.” [02:38]

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Vikings vs. Steelers: Jordan Addison’s Return

[04:02–08:15]

• Main Question: How does Addison’s return from suspension impact the Vikings’ passing game?
  • Fitz: Low immediate expectations — expects limited snaps, needs to regain football shape, and little time with new QB Carson Wentz.
    • “I'm not expecting a six catch, 90 yard game for Jordan Addison right off the bat.” [05:04]
    • Recommends benching Jalen Naylor and Adam Thielen.
  • Debro: Sees Addison as an upgrade, expects 70–75% route rate on passing downs, sees major upside vs. a struggling Pittsburgh secondary.
    • “Pittsburgh secondary has been God awful…even if he plays 70% [of snaps] like I’m pretty confident he’s going to put up a strong stat line.” [06:25]
    • Ranks him WR34 for the week.
  • Panel agrees: Addison is the best bet among Vikings WRs beyond Jefferson and Hockenson, but don’t overdraft his volume yet.
  • QBs: Neither is high on Carson Wentz given likely run-heavy game plan.

Timestamps:

• Addison’s impact: [04:53–07:32]
• Addison’s game-specific ranking debate: [07:32–08:15]

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Commanders at Falcons: Bijan Robinson’s Outlook

[08:15–10:59]

• Opposing RB1s have struggled for efficiency vs. Washington, but who have they really faced?
  • Debro: Not worried about Bijan—Washington’s stats padded by weak O-line opponents. Highlights Bijan’s elite efficiency and Atlanta’s run-blocking.
    • “If you look at on paper the matchup…if you’re not a highly explosive runner… then it’s more concerning.” [09:00]
    • “Bijan’s freaking awesome… I’m not worried about Bijan. I think this is quietly a pretty good spot for him.” [09:43]
  • Fitz: Contextualizes Washington’s 'success', thinks this isn’t a matchup to fear for Bijan.
    • “Certainly not a matchup that’s going to deter you from starting Bijan Robinson.” [10:48]

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Saints at Bills: Can NOLA Compete?

[14:03–19:12]

• Fitz: Expects a big Bills win, picks Chris Olave as his favorite Saint (elite target volume, but moderate yardage), and fades TE Dalton Kincaid due to limited snaps.
  • “There's a sturdy floor, especially in PPR, if not exactly…the ceiling does not look like the Sistine Chapel here…” [14:50]
• Debro: Thinks the Saints can ‘backdoor cover’ due to late-game garbage time, also likes Olave, and fades Bills WR Shakir in favor of a “Keon Coleman week.”
  • “If this number was like 12 and a half…fine, I think they cover. But 16 and a half, dude…” [17:05]
  • Details Olave’s strong matchup and statistical outlook.
• Both highlight reasons why the spread is large, but make a case for Saints playmakers to have fantasy-usable days.

Notable Quote:
Debro: "If there's one thing the Saints have actually been pretty good at, it's defending the slot...Shakir's my fade." [17:48]

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Browns at Lions: Elite D vs. Elite O

[19:12–25:36]

• Browns’ D has stifled top offenses; can Lions break through?
  • Fitz: Expects Lions to have more aerial than ground success, as Browns are #1 vs. run DVOA but only #18 vs. pass.
    • “I don’t think we’re getting another 150-yard rushing day from David Montgomery.” [20:32]
  • Debro: Picks Lions O to win, IF O-line holds up against Browns D-line.
    • “If Detroit…keep Jared Goff clean…it’s a big day for JMO, it’s a big day for Jared Goff, and Amon-Ra St. Brown is going to cook…” [22:49]
  • Both marvel at Cleveland’s draft success and defensive talent, but caution that O-line play is the X-factor.
  • Wormley: Thinks Browns defense will “win the battle even if they lose the game.” [24:17]

Notable Quote:
Pat Fitzmaurice: “They totally stuffed the Green Bay offense into a locker last week…after that, it was just kind of open season on Jordan Love.” [21:00]

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Titans at Texans: Lowest Total of the Week

[26:47–30:02]

• Both offenses are bottom five; over/under is a dismal 39 points.
  • Debro: The path to the over is via Houston’s offense (Stroud + Nico Collins) succeeding against an exploitable Titans pass D, and Houston capitalizing with the run.
    • “Houston has to find a way…C.J. Stroud’s got to play better. Not only Stroud, but Nico [Collins] has to have a big day.” [27:24]
  • Fitz: Wonders if Titans can keep Houston off-guard with the run, but expects a gross game overall.

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Patriots Backfield Mess: Is This the Trayveon Henderson Game?

[30:02–33:49]

• With fumbles from Stevenson and Gibson, is this the game for rookie Henderson?
  • Fitz: Encouraged by Henderson’s snap spike after Gibson’s 3rd-quarter fumble last week, but cautious: “Maybe his Snapshare hits 50% for the first time this week. All we ask is please Trayveon Henderson just hold on to the ball.” [31:04]
  • Debro: Loves the matchup against a porous Panthers run D; has Henderson ranked RB23.
    • “If this is in the game, I don’t know what the game is going to be, man. … This is the one that you unleash him.” [31:24]
  • Panel split: Fitz (RB31), Debro (RB23).

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Chargers at Giants: Time to Trust Cam Skattebo

[34:55–39:03]

• Rookie back Cam Skattebo steps into the Giants’ lead role.
  • Fitz: Excited—has Skattebo RB14 for Week 4.
    • “Cam Skattebo is just so hard to bring down. … I’ve got him RB14 this week.” [35:28]
  • Debro: All in for Skattebo as a strong RB2 due to Chargers’ inability to tackle.
    • “I think he's going to have a really good game, man. Strong RB2. I'm all in for it.” [36:13]
  • Both argue that Skattebo is a must-start even in leagues where he was just drafted as an RB3/4.

Notable Quote:
Debro: "Cam Skattebo is a player you probably drafted as like an RB3, RB4 … you need to play Cam Skattebo this week. He’s an RB2. Get him into your flex." [37:15]

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Eagles at Buccaneers: Passing Attack Unlocked?

[39:49–43:40]

• Was Philly’s 2nd-half breakout vs LAR a trend?
  • Fitz: Thinks Eagles “unlocked something” and wants to see more aggressive downfield play continue. [40:01]
  • Debro: Agrees; expects a pass-focused attack, especially against Tampa’s elite run D. Cautions about the team’s tendency to start slow before adjusting.
    • “I hope they don’t wait until the freaking fourth quarter…” [41:23]
  • On Tampa’s side, with Mike Evans out:
    • Debro: Expects a huge volume spike for Emeka Egbuka, but worries if Eagles’ CB Quinyon Mitchell shadows him.
    • Fitz: Ranks Egbuka WR16 (Debro WR18), balancing between volume and tough coverage.

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Colts at Rams: Jonathan Taylor vs. Puka Nacua

[46:04–49:30]

• Who’s the better fantasy play this week & ROS?
  • Debro: Puka easily — “Not my bias showing”—citing historic target volume, dominance vs. single-high coverage, and the lack of receiving TDs despite overall WR1 status. [46:04]
  • Fitz: Agrees, drawing Cooper Kupp comps. “If Puka stays healthy all year, he could put up those types of numbers.” [47:47]
  • Both express high confidence in Puka as a weekly WR1 and overall fantasy difference-maker. Taylor’s workload and production also praised, but Rams’ run D is a limiting factor this week.

Memorable Stat:
Debro: "He’s on pace right now for 198 targets, 164 receptions, almost 1900 receiving yards." [47:57]

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Jaguars at 49ers: Ricky Pearsall vs. Brian Thomas Jr.

[51:38–54:39]

• Why does ECR prefer Pearsall this week, but Thomas ROS?
  • Fitz: It’s about situation—Pearsall plays due to injuries (no Kittle/Jennings); Thomas is cold but carries a higher rest-of-season ceiling if he gets on track.
  • Debro: Would have Pearsall higher both this week and rest-of-season, citing performance, health, and opportunity. Expresses worries about Thomas Jr’s injury and declining play.

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Ravens at Chiefs: Pacheco’s Last Stand?

[54:39–59:24]

• KC’s run game has been anemic, but Baltimore is shredded up front.
  • Fitz: Low volume, low usage caps Pacheco’s upside, even in a plum matchup.
    • “If he does go for 100 yards rushing against your Ravens…then it’s safe to totally abandon hope.” [57:25]
  • Debro: Won’t trust Pacheco unless you’re desperate; prefers a random receiving back to him. Suggests if he doesn’t shine here, you can drop him.

Notable Quote:
Debro: “He’s not playing well. He’s on an offense that… if he can’t get it done [here], he’s not going to get it done.” [57:35]

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Bears at Raiders: Can Caleb Keep Rolling?

[61:00–63:39]

• Caleb Williams shined vs. Dallas; should he be trusted again?
  • Debro: Yes. Raiders secondary is exploitable, expects another big Roma Odunze game. [61:00]
  • Fitz: Backs it up with efficiency and rushing stats for Caleb, sees another top week coming.

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Packers at Cowboys (SNF): Cowboys Passing Game Without CeeDee

[63:39–66:20]

• Panel projects struggles for Dallas without Lamb.
  • Fitz: Not convinced Pickens can be a true WR1, especially against a high-pressure Packers D.
  • Debro: Expects heavy target volume for Pickens and Jake Ferguson but little overall efficiency given line injuries and pressure.
  • On Micah Parsons: Fitz says “just one” sack, Debro predicts at least two.

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Jets at Dolphins (MNF): Breece Hall’s Get-Right Spot

[66:20–68:43]

• Debro projects a big day: “16 rushing attempts, 80 rushing yards, two catches, 21 receiving yards, and I’ll give him a score.” [66:35]
• Fitz projects similar numbers, emphasizes Dolphins D’s vulnerabilities and both teams’ run-heavy tendencies.

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Bengals at Broncos: Cincy Offense in Trouble

[68:43–71:10]

• Debro: No bounce-back expected; terrible O-line and brutal matchup vs. Denver pass rush. Only Jamar Chase is “unbenchable”; otherwise, sit all Bengals.
• Fitz: Highlights Chase Brown’s nearly negative yards before contact and emphasizes Denver’s defensive strength.

Stat:
Chase Brown, “0.02 yards before contact. He’s barely at the positive, baby. That is by a toenail.” [70:49]

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• On Ricky Pearsall over Brian Thomas Jr.:
  • Debro: “I'm going with talent and the healthy guy… Ricky Pearsall.” [54:39]
• On Skattebo’s usage:
  • Debro: “If he stays healthy, he's not giving this job back to Tyrone Tracy. … Brian Daboll has a history of utilizing one back.” [39:03]
• On Addison’s prospects:
  • Debro: “Even if he plays 70% [of snaps] like I’m pretty confident he’s going to put up a strong stat line.” [06:25]
• On Bijan Robinson:
  • Fitz: “Certainly not a matchup that's going to deter you from starting Bijan Robinson.” [10:48]

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Final Thoughts

[71:10–end]

• Panel wraps up, wishing luck to managers for Week 4. Throughout the episode, they provide both ceiling/floor analyses and advice for both redraft and dynasty contexts. The tone is analytical but conversational, with playful jabs and inside jokes among seasoned fantasy pros.

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For deeper details on team-by-team breakdowns, matchups, and start/sit advice, check out the full episode or visit FantasyPros.com for updated consensus rankings and Tier lists.

Transcript

[Ryan Wormley]

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[Debra]

I don't think that that's necessary. Like I, I wish the NFL would take away the Thursday night games and then move to like a Friday night game and then like I like day double headers and stuff. But all the international stuff, it's like, I get it and I understand like the, the global reach of the NFL. I understand all of that, but it doesn't make it as as much of a novelty when it becomes so much more commonplace.

[Ryan Wormley]

I, I agree, by the way, on those Thursday games. Like I don't think it'd be very difficult if you said we're just going to do them during the time of year where there are buys and always just make it two teams coming off a buy and then you don't have this like immediate turnaround and then you can do the opener because they have plenty of time before that. That's kind of my thought on the Thursdays. Fitz, what do you think about all these international games? Like, I get expanding the game, but it just feels like it's too much like you.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

I would like to see fewer of them, maybe one or two of year, not five or six or whatever it is this year. I dislike those more than I. Excuse me. I dislike the overlapping Monday games more than I dislike the early Sunday games. The overlapping Monday night games just really annoy me. I'd like to, you know, I want Monday night games to be standalone games. I want to be able to like, watch all of whatever game there is. And the first set was okay when they did not overlap. And we got two games that was cool, the overlapping ones.

[Ryan Wormley]

Well, all the east coast folks had big complaints about the.

[Debra]

Everybody thinks they look like. Everybody talks like they're in East Coast. East coast time zone thinks that like the rest of the world lives in Eco East.

[Ryan Wormley]

Debra, I don't even know what time zone you like, because the other day on Twitter you were crapping on mountain time zones.

[Debra]

Well, mountain time up. We all know that. I mean, they're all thinking, I'll count on one hand how many people we know live in mountain time.

[Ryan Wormley]

Every time zone is made. I, I believe Denver has the most employees of any city at our company, so you should show some respect to, to mountain time.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

And by. By the way, Deborah, we're never getting NFL games on Friday nights.

[Debra]

They're.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

They're just never going to high school football. There are too many NFL fans whose kids play high school football and they are preoccupied.

[Debra]

And it never gets Saturday night because then it'll conflict with college and the NCAA will riot. So, so, yeah, no, I know. Just wishful thinking.

[Ryan Wormley]

I just think we can move on after this. I, I just think that, like, the limited availability of football is a huge part of why it's so successful. Like, if, if there was 162 games, like in baseball, it wouldn't feel as special having a whole day dedicated. Dedicated to it every week on Sundays. And, you know, your team only gets to play once a week, so it really ma. If baseball was played only once a week, those games would be way more popular. Like, I, I think the, the scarcity of football is a huge part of. If you get rid of that, I just think you're playing with fire. And not that it's going to become unpopular or anything, but I don't like it is my point. Let's. Let's dive into that Ireland game, Vikings at Steelers. And I want to ask about Jordan Addison, who is coming back off suspension. Fitz, we'll start with you. How will Jordan Addison's return from suspension impact the Vikings passing game for fantasy managers?

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

I don't think it'll be a big impact in this game. Like it's possible. We only see Addison play maybe half to 2/3 of the offensive snaps. Like, I'm sure he's not. He's probably in cardio shape after being away from the team, but maybe not in football shape yet, you know. No. No hitting for him. Can't imagine he walks right in and plays 90% of the snaps. And Addison is probably not going to be completely in sync with Carson Wentz considering that Wednesday was the first day that Carson Wentz has ever thrown a pass to Jordan Addison in a Vikings practice. So a couple days ago, that was it. And yeah, so like I'm not expecting a six catch, 90 yard game for Jordan Addison right off the bat.

[Ryan Wormley]

Do you see any impact fits for what Addison does to like, are you expecting maybe a little bit less of a game from Jefferson Hawkinson, anything like that? Just as they work him in and get him incorporated back into the offense?

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Not those guys, but I would not start Jalen Naylor or Adam Thielen this week.

[Ryan Wormley]

Okay. I don't know how many people were starting them regardless, but it's, you know, fair to point out. Diva, what do you think? What are your expectations for Addison and kind of the offense as a whole with Addison back?

[Debra]

I mean, I think it's, it's better things moving forward for the Vikings. Unfortunately, the acquisition of Adam Thielen has been pretty useless. Like he's been a ghost the beginning of part of the season and I understand they've been more run heavy than we all kind of anticipated and things have kind of gone sideways. But also, did anybody think that through the first few games of the season, to this point of the season right now, Adam Thielen would have only six targets, two catches and 26 receiving yards and a 9.2% target share. No. So considering that Addison's going to provide a boost for this offense and I mean I'm with Fitzy that like, I don't think he plays like 90% of the snaps, but I think when they're out there in passing downs, like he's still going to have like a 70 to 75 route per drop back rate and they probably just cut him on like more condensed packages running some 12 and run plays and stuff. That's where they take him off the field. But when they're passing, I think he's gonna be on the field and I think he's have a good day, man. Like this Pittsburgh secondary has been God awful. Like just they have been nothing close to what I think any of us thought they were going to be entering the season. Considering the talent, the names, everything. And looking at the coverage structure, Pittsburgh has been single high heavy for the last two seasons. We know we're going to get that this year. 67 of the defensive snapshot against that last year Addison tore it up, man. He had 2.2 yards per route run 27% first read share the matchup is good, I think even on limited snaps. Like even if he plays 70% like I'm pretty confident he's going to put up a strong stat line. Like I got him at wide receiver 34 this week.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

No.

[Ryan Wormley]

Did you guys think about Addison when ranking Carson Wentz this week? Like does he actually go up a little bit for that or.

[Debra]

No, I didn't. Only because I don't think like Carson Wentz is going to throw a ton and this is also a good game to lean on Jordan Mason because the Steelers run defense has been pretty bad.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Right. That's kind of where I'm at with Wentz. I've got him QB27. I just think they're trying to hide him as much as possible. But you actually Debro did make a pretty good case for Addison. I might have to move him up a little. I've got him in the 50s.

[Debra]

Where do you have him at right now?

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

I'm like in the 50s with him like 53 or 52 or something like that. But you know, I should probably have him in the 40s. Yeah.

[Ryan Wormley]

All right, let's go to Commanders at Falcons. This is back to the normal Sunday early slate. Opposing RB1s against the Commanders have all finished with under 4 yards per carry in each game this season. I believe it was like under 3 in the first game. Then the next two have been about 3.7 per game. I forgot to write it down but I think I'm remembering that correctly. But it's all been under four yards per carry. It's not like we would consider sitting Bijan Robinson under any circumstance. But Debro is this a defense that could give him him some trouble? Maybe.

[Debra]

I'm not worried about it to be honest. Just because if you look at how good Bijan and looking at this run defense on paper like if you're not a highly explosive runner, if you're one of these more volume compiling not can really do and create extra yards just by yourself then it's more concerning like Washington. Like if you look at on paper the matchup they do have the seventh best stuff rate. So again going back to the archetypes and some of the running backs they face like the Giants don't have a good offensive line. The Packers Josh Jacobs is good at what he does but we're not saying like he's not out here ripping 50 and 60 yard runs and he's not known for his explosiveness. And Ashton Genti, again terrible offensive line. I think more of what we've seen so far from the commanders has been a function of a middle of the road run defense that has faced some pretty pretty like two of these three teams they played at putrid offensive lines or they're playing bad. This run defense also has allowed the 10th highest explosive run rate and their middle of the road as far as missed tack rate like they're 17th. So you stack all that up against Bijan Robinson who I mean Atlanta quietly even despite the injuries. Their ninth best in yards before contact per attempt was just probably more of a Bijan stat than it is for their O line because Bijan's freaking awesome. Like he's top 15 and every single per touch efficiency metric. The film test, the eye test also passes too. Like I'm not worried about Bijan. I think that this is quietly a pretty good spot for him.

[Ryan Wormley]

What do you think fits?

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

DBRO said it pretty well. Gotta look at the opponents and it was the Giants and that was the Tyrone Tracy Giants, not the Cam Scatter Boo Giants fair the the Raiders last week who haven't been able to run against anyone. And Ashton Genty is one of only two running backs in the league average averaging negative yards before contact per carry. So really it was just Josh Jacobs as the only decent running back they faced. And you know he did just fine. 23 carries for 84 yards and a touchdown. So not a huge game but a solid game. I'm kind of with dbro like it's a pretty good maybe above average run defense but not a matchup to fear and certainly not a matchup that's going to deter you from starting Bijan Robinson.

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[Ryan Wormley]

All right, we're going to Saints at Bills as of When I put the sheet together, I didn't look to see if this moved at all. But when I put the sheet together a couple of days ago, the bills were laying 15 and a half points on hard rock bet, which is the biggest line of the season so far. Will they cover that spread? And then also, Fitz, I want you to pick one saint that you like this week and one Bill you dislike to kind of go against the narrative of this game.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Ooh, interesting. All right. Yes, I do think the Bills cover in this one. They kind of sleepwalked through their Thursday night home game against the Dolphins and got a real scare in that game. So I think they'll be a little more dialed in against a second straight overmatched opponent. They've had extra rest time, extra prep time, and they haven't had to leave home. I think the Bills win big in this one. A saint I like. I'll keep putting Chris Olave in lineups where I have him. Like his his target counts so far. 13, 10, 14. He has 23 catches already. Although the weird thing is he has been between 54 and 57 yards in every game so far. So there's a sturdy floor, especially in ppr, if not exactly, you know, the ceiling does not look like the Sistine Chapel here with Spencer Rattler at quarterback. A fade for the Bills. I'll say Dalton Kincaid like he's tight end three in fantasy scoring right now because he's gotten in the into the end zone a couple of times. But he's only playing about half the Bill's offensive snaps and he hasn't had more than six targets in a game. So if there's anyone who disappoints, maybe it's him.

[Ryan Wormley]

Fitz, would you rather start Kincaid or Kelsey this week?

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Oh man, that is. That is interesting. I'm. Let me check the rankings real quick. I. I think I do have Kincaid ranked higher. Kelsey looks pretty dusty.

[Ryan Wormley]

They're back to back in ecr and they're my two tight ends in a dynasty league that we're all in together.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Yeah, I've got King tight end 8.

[Debra]

You don't have Kincaid in that league. I have Kincaid in that.

[Ryan Wormley]

The other Dynasty league, though.

[Debra]

Okay. I was like, you can have Kincaid. I'll trade it to you.

[Ryan Wormley]

No, I. You'll trade to be in the league where I already have Brock Bowers. No, I'm. You need a backup. I have Kyle Pitts as my backup. Actually.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

I've got Kincaid, tight end, 8. Kelsey, tight end, 10.

[Ryan Wormley]

Okay, so, so close. But yeah, you do lean in that direction. Dbro, what do you think about this game? Do you think the Bills are going to cover this huge spread and then also pick a saint you like and a bill you dislike?

[Debra]

Man, you made me look this up. It's actually moved more in the direction of the Bills and Hard rock bed. It's minus 16 and a half now. Like, oh, okay. Good lord.

[Ryan Wormley]

So it's kind of the other direction.

[Debra]

I. Okay, so I don't think the Bills cover on this and only because. Not because I think that the Saints are going to put up much of a fight. I just think that they can get there in garbage time stuff and make up after the Bills kind of take their foot off the gas. Because, I mean, if this number was like 12 and a half or something like that, then fine, I think they cover.

[Ryan Wormley]

It opened at 12 and a half, by the way.

[Debra]

Oh, okay. Well, there you go. But 16 and a half, dude. Like, that's.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

With that the back door is always open when there's a spread that.

[Debra]

Yes, exactly. And that's. And. But. But the other thing about it is, like, there are paths to the Saints moving the ball in this game. Like, their run defense is not stellar. So I think Khmer can get good usage on the ground. Chris Lobby is my saint. For all the points that that Fitzy laid out here, he's getting a crap ton of volume. But the other thing I'll point out here too is that like the Buffalo Bills have faced the sixth fewest perimeter wide receiver targets, but they rank 15th in fantasy points per game and they've allowed the fifth highest PPR points per target to perimeter wide receivers. So quietly. Pretty good spot for Chris Olave. So I feel really good about him as a wide receiver. 3 this week, the bill that I'll fade because Fitzy, I think this is going to make things tingle. I think it's the Keon Coleman week, bro. So I think Keon's in for a big day and Khalil Shakir is the guy that I'll fade here. Just his usage. The Saints have been more single high heavy 58.4% of their snaps, his usage versus single high this year has been okay, but it's not great. If there's one thing the Saints have actually been pretty good at, it's defending the slot slot receivers against the Saints have the ninth view is PPR points per target and the fifth or the, excuse me, the fifth fewest fantasy points per game overall. So Shakir's my fade because I think it's gonna be a big keon day.

[Ryan Wormley]

On the, you know, big spread. Like, also, like, would it totally surprise you if the Bills kind of played with their food a bit too? Like even. Not even just talking about a backdoor cover, but like, I. A 3. 0 team that almost feels like given their schedule, they've already locked up the one seed in the AFC going up against the team that a lot of people thought was gonna look ahead game.

[Debra]

Or maybe Kellen Moore. Like, maybe. I'm not saying the Saints win this, but it's closer because of garbage time and everything.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, yeah. Like, I. Yeah. My point is that I don't think it's necessary if they cover the Saints cover, that is, I don't think it's necessarily going to mean like, oh, they definitely. It's a backdoor cover. Like, I could see it being closer than people expect for like. I don't think anybody will at no point. Well, I think the Bills are going to lose, but I could see it being, you know, under three scores for most of the afternoon, and it feels like they're just not. Not putting them away.

[Debra]

Well, and I. And I also think it's in the Saints favor being a dome team traveling to. To freaking Buffalo, that this isn't him. Like the snow and the tundra and stuff like that too.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, for sure. All right, let's go to Browns at Lions. Fitz. Sorry to be talking about the Browns facing an NFC north team. I know that's going to bring up some scars for you. The unstoppable force, right. The Lions offense versus the immovable object, the Browns defense, which has been really good this year. I mean, you think, like, not just statistically, like, oh, the Browns defense has been really good. Think about who they have faced. They have faced the Bengals when they still had Joe Burrow. And it was a. A Bengals offense that had actually played in the preseason unlike previous years. So you kind of thought they would be, you know, more ready to go in week one. In week two, they faced the Ravens offense, which is like the second or I think it's actually still the first, you know, highest scoring offense in football. And Then the Packers, who. I know their, their defense isn't better than their offense, but it's been a good offense this year and the Browns defense has made all three of those. I know the Ravens scored over 40 points, but that was a lot of like, defense and special teams helping them get there. They have made every one of these offenses look, look pretty bad relative to the rest of the season. But again, the Lions offense is really good. So, Fitz, I will start with you. Who wins the battle on that side of the ball? Lions offense or Browns defense?

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Yeah, so I'm going to say the Lions maybe more through the air than on the ground. Like the. The Browns are only giving up 2.2 yards per carry to running backs. So far they rank first in DVOA against the run, but they're only 18th in DVOA against the pass. So I don't think we're getting another 150 yard rushing day from David Montgomery. Sorry, Worm, but we, we might get 150 yard day from either Amon Ross, St. Brown or Jameson Williams. But like this, not to diminish this Cleveland defense, it is really good. They totally stuffed the Green Bay offense into a locker last week and they just. The packers could not handle the Browns defensive front. After the packers lost Zach Tom and Aaron Banks to injuries early in the game, two of their key starting linemen. After that, it was just kind of open season on Jordan Love and they couldn't get any movement in the running game.

[Ryan Wormley]

I think the Lions are going to do enough, like, to win the game, obviously. And so like, by that measure, you could say that I'm picking the Lions offense. But like, specifically on this side of the ball, I actually think the Browns defense is going to have the better day than the Lions offense. I'm. I'm just so impressed by what I've seen from Cleveland outside of the ball. So D bro, go ahead and break our tie here.

[Debra]

I'm gonna go with the Lions offense. And I think this all comes down to one specific factor in this game. Do Christian Mahogany and Tate Ratledge hold up? If they hold up against this defensive line, then the Lions can cook here. Really? And this all comes down to the trenches. And can the Browns have a good day? It is possible. If their D line can get home, they can bring pressure because they are seventh best in pressure. And we know Jared Goff has a problem with that. That's what happened with the packers game. Tate Routledge and Mahogany were overmatched, but I think this offensive line is kind of not finding its stride, but I think they're playing better. Both those guards have played better over the last two weeks. I think that continues this week. And if that happens, man, I just. They might be without Denzel Ward. Their cornerbacks in the back end are not equipped to deal with this passing attack like Cleveland has quietly been as good as their defensive line has been and they are carrying the day. Their, their run defense is top five in the NFL. Again, I said they have the seventh best pressure rate. If those things like if Detroit Lions just say look like if we got enough time with Jared Golf, whether it's short area targets or JMO just burning these corners like they can put up some points, they just have to keep Jared Goff clean. And if they can do that, which I think I lean in the direction that they can and I know I'm stepping out on a limb because we've already seen the Lions offensive line fold under a good D line already previously. But if they can, Cleveland's given up the fifth fifth most passing touchdowns, the eighth highest pass rating and they're middle of road in success rate and they're quietly middle of the road in against deep passing. It just comes down to can their pass rush and their D line win. If not, it's a big day for jmo. It's a big day for Jared Golf and Amon Ross saying Brown is going to cook Miles Harden who right now is giving up a 75% catch rate and a 130 pass rating in his coverage. He doesn't have a chance against Amon.

[Ryan Wormley]

Ra. I, I am not as optimistic about the Lions line as you are. Like in terms of them playing better last couple weeks. I mean like when week three they are facing the Ravens without Namdi Madam week without Kyle Van Noy with a banged up Travis Jones. Like that's not a good defensive line. It's the weakest unit on the Ravens as an entire team really. So I don't think it was like impressive of the Lions offensive line to do what they did and you know, the week before against the Bears, like, like the, the, the Browns are closer to the packers in that regard than they are the other two opponents they faced. So I'm, I'm not ready to say like that this offensive line is ready for a matchup like this. I, I do think they will get kind of bullied by the, the Browns defensive line and if they're shutting down the run and don't have that threat with Montgomery and Gibbs, that, that's kind of why I lean towards again I, I do not think the Browns are going to win this game. I, I am not saying that because I think the Lions defense will do very, very well against the Browns offense, like every defense does against the Browns offense. But I do, I do think we will come away saying, like, even if the Lions score, score some points because they're going to just over the course of a long game, I think we'll come away saying the Browns defense won the battle even if they lost the game. If that makes sense.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

The Browns defense, man, like, if they, I mean, they had such a nice draft, getting the extra first round pick for next year, getting Mason Taylor who looks like a stud already. Carson Schlesinger is like already one of the, like an above average NFL linebacker from the jump. Like, he is really good. Grant Del Pitt is one of the better safeties in the league. Like they have a really good tough defense if they can just like finally figure it out at quarterback. And they do have some ammo in the draft next year, like the Browns might not be. And I, I don't want to give the Browns fans false hope because I know they've had plenty of that over the years. But like, they could, they could be competitive in a hurry.

[Ryan Wormley]

I want to save you here, Fitz, from the comments. You said Mason Taylor. It's Mason Graham.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Oh, did I say Sorry about that?

[Ryan Wormley]

Obviously you know that. But just. Yes, but just so the commenters don't.

[Debra]

Jump on you, also shout out to Malik Collins. He's arguably playing some of the best football his career right now.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, it's been, I mean, defense is a lot about effort. So I wonder if like later in the year if like the offense has been just terrible all season and that's.

[Debra]

You know, that's what I worry about.

[Ryan Wormley]

It'll get worse.

[Debra]

Not going to play complimentary football. Yeah.

[Ryan Wormley]

But right now, yeah, it's early enough that they're still pretty scary. Very, very scary, actually. Let Autopilot manage your fantasy football lineup automatically so you never have to worry about last minute changes. Auto swap inactive players and ensure your lineup is always optimized even when you can't be online. Take control with the flexibility to approve lineup changes via email or let Autopilot handle everything. Stay ahead with my Playbook. Autopilot, available now for Fantasy Pros Premium [e-mail] MyPlayBook or on the Fantasy Pros app. Try Premium for free right now by claiming your three day trial of fantasy pros [e-mail] premium. All right, guys, Titans at Texans gross. Key question here. Houston is the lowest scoring team in football this season. Tennessee is also bottom five. The total on this game is down at 38 and a half. Actually. I want to see if it's still there because that's where it was again a couple of days ago. I wonder if that like the, like Bill Saints has moved at all. It is. Oh, it's moved up. It's now at 39 on. On hard Rock as the total in this game is now at 39 on Hard Rock. Bet. What is the Pat game going over? Basically? What is the path to these offenses showing us anything in this game? D. Bro.

[Debra]

This is the lowest total of the week. Am I. Am I right with that?

[Ryan Wormley]

Yes, I believe. I believe it's the second lowest total this season behind Steelers jets in week one, which obviously did go over.

[Debra]

Yeah, Minnesota and Pittsburgh is close, but they're not in the 30s. This is the only one in the 30s. The. The path for this going over, man, really comes down to two things for me. Houston's offense, it has to like, carry the day here. Tennessee is not going to put up a ton of points regardless of how you look at this. So Houston has to like, somehow find a way. C.J. stroud's got to play better. It really. I think not only Stroud, but Nico has to have a big day and he can do that versus this Tennessee past defense, like, they're not very good, man. Like a lot of too high. Nico's not been great against it this year. I think it's more of a Stroud result than it is Nico, but. Well, Jerry Sneed's not playing great, although he's talking a little bit of smack to Nico Collins. Good luck. Nico's gonna drop 150 on you. This week's need not. Not smart. You're just. You're not that dude anymore at this part of your career to sit here and be talking that crap to one of the best wide receivers in the league. Godspeed. But the other thing I'll bring up here is that for Houston to sit here and put up the points to push this to the over, because I just don't think the Tennessee Titans have the capability with their. With their offense. It helps them if Derek Stingley misses this game, but still, like, Calvin Ridley ain't carrying no passing attack in the year 2025. It's just not happening, dude. I think this also has to be a good day for the Houston rushing attack, which they can get there. Tennessee cannot stop the run. Like, they're Fourth worst, an explosive run rate and rushing yards per game. I'm not telling you that Nick Chubb looks like yesteryear Nick Chubb, but against this run defense, he might surprise some people.

[Ryan Wormley]

What do you think Fitz? What's the path the over here?

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Oh man. Trying to paint a picture of an interesting fun Texans Titans game. That's a tall order, Worm, but. Well, I mean you could say that the Texans haven't been especially good against the run. Like their run defense is 28th in DVOA. They've given up four rushing touchdowns and the Texans are also 26th in pressure rate, which is pretty disappointing for a team with Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter. Like I don't get that. But if the Titans can run the ball effectively, keep like down in distance manageable and keep the Houston pass rush from getting to Cam Ward, who's been smacked around in the first three weeks, I'm worried the kid isn't going to survive the season. But if that happens, maybe the Tennessee offense can be functional, you know, if they keep those guys from getting award and then on the other side of the ball, the Titans defense is 29th in DVOA like 31st in DVOA against the run. So yes, the Houston offensive line is just garbage. But if it can be just decent this week, like you can certainly move the ball and score points on the Titans D. Yeah, I don't really want.

[Ryan Wormley]

To talk anymore about this game cause it's okay.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

It's agreed.

[Debra]

Gross, dude. So gross.

[Ryan Wormley]

All right, let's go to Panthers at Patriots. After all the fumbles from the New England backfield last week, is this the game Trayveon Henderson finally gets unleashed?

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Fits man, you would hope so if you are a Travian Henderson investor. Like it had to be really frustrating for the Henderson investors that after Ramon Ray Stevenson coughed up his second fumble last week, Antonio Gibson was in on the next series, got a carry on first down, got another carry on second down, and then fumbled the ball away himself. So that was early third quarter. The good thing was after that Gibson fumble from that point on, Henderson was the only New England running back who touched the ball the rest of the game. Like Henderson, his Snapchairs were 35% in week one, 31.7% in week two, up to 45.9% last week with the spike in usage in the second half. So maybe his Snapshare hits 50% for the first time this week. Like all we ask. Please Travion Henderson just hold on to the ball.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, and he, he's not Somebody who fumbled, you know, in college or anything.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

So not an issue. I mean, anyone can cough it up, but like it, it hasn't been a problem for him. It's clearly been a problem for Ramandre and Gibson over their careers.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, for sure. Devra, what do you think? Is this the game?

[Debra]

If this is in the game? I don't know what the game is going to be, man. I mean, to be honest, like, this is the perfect matchup. This is the one that you unleash him. But both the other running backs have fumbled. And to Fitz's point, after the Ramandre put the ball on the ground in the third quarter, Henderson played 72% of the snaps after that. For the rest of the game, he had a 63% route share. I think this is the week that they unleashed Travion Henderson. The Panthers just, they're just giving up everything on the ground, man. Like their, their past defense has been really good, but their run defense has been God awful. Still, I was hoping it was going to be better with some of the additions they made, Derek Brown coming back, but it has not worked out. It has not been the case. And if there was ever a game to get Trayvon Henderson going, it is this one against a Carolina run defense that's given up the eighth most rushing yards and the third highest yards after contact per attempt. When. And I guess the only thing my takeaway with Trayvon right now is I'm kind of surprised. And I know it's only 19 carries. I, I get that guys. I'm kind of surprised like how little he's making guys miss. Like he has only a 5% missed tackle rate. So again, I think this is more small sample because the guy is explosive. We saw that multiple years in college. I don't think they just lost all of that, but it is a little bit eyebrow raising, Eyebrow raising to this point that, that he's done or hasn't done what he hasn't done with the work that he's been given.

[Ryan Wormley]

Where, where is he ranked for you, D, bro?

[Debra]

Oh, I think I got him inside my top 24 running backs right now.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Oh, wow.

[Debra]

Yeah, I've got him at RB23. Like I, I do think that this is the game where he gets unleashed. I think he's probably gonna play at least 50 of the snaps. And again, he hasn't looked like great on a per touch basis to this point. This, this is the matchup. This, this is the matchup. Like we all saw, like what Travis Etn did a week one and what he hasn't done since week one. Like this is it dude.

[Ryan Wormley]

Fitz, did you say where you have him ranked?

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

31 for Henderson, 33 for Ramondre. I'm just not totally convinced that they do the right thing and play a Henderson more.

[Ryan Wormley]

Okay.

[Debra]

Brable doesn't seem like the the head coach that's going to sit here and force that Fitzy like the old school guys like, nah, you're in the Brable doghouse, baby.

[Ryan Wormley]

Like we did say he was like RA needs to figure this out because we need him to, you know, be a real significant part of this team. Like he was talking like he wants him to keep getting chances and figure it out. I don't know if that's going to.

[Debra]

Play out is deep and ugly.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

I know. If only, if only. Every coach like if only variable was as quick to throw Ramanre in fumble jail as like Ron Rivera used to be to throw Gibson into fumble jail.

[Debra]

Oh geez man.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah. If you want a chance to win a signed Jamar Chase Bengals jersey for free courtesy of our friends@pristine auction.com, all you need to do is head to fantasyprose.com contest, complete the form and either download the Fantasy Pros app, leave a review for the podcast, or follow us on X Instagram or Tik Tok at Fantasy Pros. The more actions you complete, the more entries you receive. We will be announcing a winner right here on the podcast. If you're watching on YouTube, be sure to subscribe and turn on those notifications so you can be alerted when new episodes are up and to claim your prize. Guys, how about Chargers at Giants? Cam Scoo is taking over the Giants backfield fits, but the Chargers defense is no joke. Where are you ranking him this week? Expert consensus ranking has him at RB23. That's in half PPR scoring. Let me just make sure that didn't update RB22 now. So moved up just a spot.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Yeah. So the Chiefs are on defense. No joke either. And scatter boo. 10 carries for 60 yards and a touchdown on the ground last year. And in addition to 6 yards per carry against that very good Chiefs run defense, Skettaboo's work in the passing game was even more exciting. I think. Like six catches, 61 yards on eight targets. This guy is so much fun. I wasn't sure how well Cam Scatter Boo's game was going to translate to the NFL. Like the physical tackle breaker going against a different breed of defenders and tacklers. It looks like it's going to translate very well. Thank you. You know, Cam Scatter Boo is just so hard to bring down. I've got him RB14 this week. No Tyrone Tracy for the Giants. He dislocated his shoulder last week. The Giants backfield now belongs to Cam Scatter Boo. And you would imagine the Giants are going to want to lean on him pretty heavily this week with rookie QB Jackson Dart making his first NFL start against this good Chargers defense.

[Ryan Wormley]

D bro, you seemed to be in agreement here.

[Debra]

Dude, I was hoping Fitzy wasn't gonna come here and throw cold water on this, man. I'm, I'm so in. I've got Cam scatter boo at RB16. I think he's gonna crush this week and I think it's, it's gone under the radar. You can run the ball against the freaking Chargers. This defense has given up the seventh highest explosive run rate and the highest missed tackle rate. Well, oh, guess what on that cherry. On top of all of that, they got the third lowest stuff rate and they get Cam Scatterable this week. Dad. Dude, we're gonna get some really good gifts and stuff out of Cam Scatter Boo and some good moments. I think he's gonna have a really good game, man. Strong RB2. I'm all in for it. And I think that I, I, I had to include him because he was a little bit, he, I think it was like RB25. When we did the Primer video, which should be live on YouTube at the time you're watching this, I had to include him because I felt like with people with the roster composition, Cam Scatter Boo is a player you probably drafted as like an RB3, RB4 and you're like, at this point it's Jackson Dart's first game and the defense and you're so worried and everybody's like, I don't know if I should play him or not. You need to play Cam Scatter Boo this week. He's an RB2. Get him into your flex. He's probably a flex on most different rosters. Unless you just lost like James Conner, other injuries, Aaron Jones. You should be licking your chops to play Cam Scatter Boo this week.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Isn't the NFL so much more fun where there's a running back like Mike Allstott or you know, sorry, date you, but John Riggins. Yeah, it's just so fun. Possible to tackle and just bounces defenders off them like ping pong balls. Like Scatter Boo is, is just going to be a joy to watch. Man. I can't wait to, to enjoy his career.

[Ryan Wormley]

I think it's a good point by you. D bro on like he was not drafted to be a starter. So unless you've had injuries, like you are going to have to choose to play him ahead of somebody that you had drafted ahead of him and who maybe even has played okay this season for you.

[Debra]

Like I. I got a great one. I got. I know you're searching for a name. Worm.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Debra]

Cam Scatter or Chase Brown? Come on. You know we all want to say Cam's cataboo.

[Ryan Wormley]

Like yeah, ironically Chase Brown is actually ranked back to back with him in ecr. I feel like it has. Like I'm still playing.

[Debra]

Cam Scatter Boot.

[Ryan Wormley]

Like yeah, I was gonna say Javante or Scatter Boo.

[Debra]

David Montgomery. Yeah, Cam just exactly.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, yeah, I, I will be really excited to. Let's do this deeper and then we'll move off at this point. Where is he rest of season for you?

[Debra]

I. I think He's a comfortable RB2 high end. RB2. I'm looking at my rest of season ranks and I probably got him too low in there but RB20, I've got him as my rest of season ranks.

[Ryan Wormley]

Okay.

[Debra]

He's not giving. If he stays healthy, he's not giving this job back to Tyrone Tracy. I want to be very clear about that. I said that in the off season. Brian Daboll has a history of utilizing one back again. Pop quiz time, boys. Who was the OC with Peyton Hillis's monster season? It was Brian freaking Day ball like this archetype of volume compiling back. He likes this archetype of back. It was Devin Singletary. It was Zach Moss, but Zach Moss wasn't good enough in Buffalo to take the job. So he's going to take this job and health permitted because of the. I understand his play style and as the touches kind of like ramp up and the hits ramp up, there are worries there for me. But if he stays healthy, he's not letting go of this job. He's not.

[Ryan Wormley]

Let's go to Eagles at Buccaneers. This is the last game in the early slate fits. Was the second half against the Rams an outlier for the Eagles offense or did they unlock something in their passing game for moving forward?

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

I'd like to think they unlocked something and if their passing game was locked, it was pretty much self locking. Like they just had not been throwing downfield very much. But then you know they fell behind against the Rams and really opened up the offense in the second half and they look great. Like Jalen Hurts was throwing darts AJ Brown was making plays. Hopefully we get more of that this week.

[Ryan Wormley]

Debra, what do you think?

[Debra]

Yeah, I think this is a case. The Eagles felt like the person that locked their keys in the car. You can't drive anywhere when you don't have your key freaking keys, man. And the keys to this offense and no shade against Saquon Barkley, but should be the passing attack and stuff, man. Like Saquon's per touch efficiency has not been great this year. I mean that has to get noted here. And you have two of the best wide receivers, arguably the best wide receiver tandem in the entire freaking NFL. And I think what, what really is going to kind of like push the Eagles in this direction this week especially is they're against another pass funnel defense. Like the Buccaneers are an elite run defense. They're top 12 and stuff rate Loisman's tackle rate and yards before contact per attempt. So looking at just this matchup, yes, the Eagles should lean into their passing attack. Can I tell you definitively that they're not going to be hard headed and try to run the ball in the first quarter and then find out, oh this is probably a really stupid idea and then change course.

[Ryan Wormley]

Possibly that feels maybe more likely that they pivot partway through the game.

[Debra]

I hope they don't wait until the freaking fourth quarter this time and say, oh hey guess what, we should probably do this thing, this other thing that we're really good.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

By the way, the Rams would like a word about that best wide receiver tandem thing.

[Debra]

Oh well, yes, you're right.

[Ryan Wormley]

Good.

[Debra]

Yeah. Good shout out. Yeah.

[Ryan Wormley]

I want to ask on the other side of this game, what are expectations for a Mecca Igbuka with Mike Evans out?

[Debra]

Debra, he's gonna get a crap ton of volume. Like dude, last week he had almost a 28 target share. And that was one of the things that I was not that I was taught saying Mecca's early season production was fraudulent, but it was very much carried by touchdowns. Like he was living in that like 18 to 19 target share range, it wasn't as high as I think like people would believe. Just saying looking at the fantasy production. So last week seeing him garner a wide receiver, one type of workload where he had a 27.5 target share, he had a 35 first read share. Those were really good things because you're either one of the wide receivers that is the archetype of player that can command volume and and earn volume at that type of clip or you're not and it's that freaking easy so like we get into this like realm of like projecting guys to earn better target shares than maybe their archetype or their talent allows them to do. That was really encouraging to see from Ameca. I'm worried about him this week because I'm worried about do they do the Eagles put Quinon Mitchell on him because Quinon has followed guys like he followed Adams last week on almost 80% of his routes. If that happens, I'm worried about a Mecca's outlook but I think the volume is definitely going to be there because Baker doesn't have a whole lot of other options.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, Fitz Dibro kind of hit on the follow up. I was going to ask which is the volume is clearly going to be higher. At least we expect. But so will the defensive attention.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

That's exactly it. The, the, the push pull on that. And Egbuca was just sort of maximizing a modest target share early on then last year or last week I should say spike in in target share. And you figure he's going to see more targets this week with no Evans. But yeah, maybe he gets locked up by Quinion Mitchell. So yeah, I've got him ranked like wide receiver 16. What about you D bro?

[Debra]

I've got him. I was actually pulling that up. One of my worries here not to side I've got a wide receiver 18 just because of the volume. One of my worries and this is a quiet worry. We have to see if this is going to pan out. I don't know if Josh Grizzard is any good man. And, and just trying to read the small tea leaves of stuff like the things that we saw Liam Cohen adjust and do different. Like when the entire offense got like just cratered to nothing and Kate Otten is put into a power slot role and he has a few monster games which scared me about the way that Grizzer deployed this offense in previous games. Like just this is a perfect parallel to this. The week against the Texans when Mike Evans is getting shadowed by Derek Stingley and the way that you, you change, you flip this matchup and you put it back in your favor is you move Mike Evans, put him in the freaking slot and Derek Stingley is not following him to the slot. Like that's just what it's a cheat code. He didn't do it. He just put Mike Evans out there on the boundary and said sure, just go win. It's cool. Go win. If he does that this week versus a Mecca. But the Bucks are going to struggle as a passing attack because they don't Have a counter punch. So I'm worried about is Grizzard not a great oc and did the Liam Cohen magic kind of like leave out of the room? Because little things like that where you make it easier for your offense and you exploit different matchups, those are the things you want to press the easy button for your quarterback in your offense. I don't know if dude is good enough to do that.

[Ryan Wormley]

Go to the late afternoon slate Sunday Colts at Rams, which by the way, I think is the highest total of the week at 49 and a half on hard Rock. Bet. I actually really like the under on that, truthfully. But there are a couple of studs in this game that we are definitely very happy to be starting in our fantasy lineups. I want to ask you guys about two of them. Who finishes better at their position this week, Jonathan Taylor or Puka Nakua? And then also who finishes better at their position this season if we guaranteed health for these guys. If you look at the consensus rankings on the Flex rankings, because obviously they're different positions, Jonathan Taylor is third overall. Pukinakua is fourth overall. Taylor of course, is behind a couple of running backs in the consensus rankings. Puka is behind nobody at wide receiver. But how do you guys see this playing out? Who's better this week and for the season? Debra, I'll start with you. Jonathan Taylor or Puka Nakua?

[Debra]

This is not my bias showing. I promise it's not. Guys, I'm so sure this is Puka. This is Puka now and this is Puka rest of season. Pukas. I mean, dude, he hasn't scored any receiving touchdowns. I know he got one in the ground. He scored zero receiving touchdowns and the dude is the runaway wide receiver. One in fantasy points per game right now with zero receiving touchdowns. He's going. He's scoring 24.5 fantasy points per game with one freaking touchdown on the year. One total. That's it. And he's not slowing down this week where. This is a week where I'm not saying JT slows down, but I think like tempering expectations because the Rams do have a really good run defense. Like they're allowed the sixth lowest explosive run rate, seventh lowest missed tackle rate. So they are a good run defense. So I think Jonathan Taylor has a quiet. Not a quiet week. Like he's still going to get 20 to 25 opportunities. He's still probably going to score touchdowns. So like, I'm just saying this is not a Smash Taylor type of matchup. Whereas dude, Puka Nagua Colts run single high at 55 of their defensive snaps. Puka's usage has been just. Puka's usage has been ridiculous the whole entire season. But versus single high. Dude, he's got a 46.3% target share. He's got 5.6 yards per route run. These are video game type of metrics. These are ridiculous numbers. Like this is Madden on easy mode type of numbers. So Puka is my answer for both of these fits.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

I'll say Puka on both counts too. Like he is a reception machine. Like 29 catches leading the league. Like remember that Cooper cup season in 2021?

[Debra]

I was gonna bring that up.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Yeah. It was 145 catches that year and almost 2, 000 receiving yards for Cooper Cup. Like if Puka stays healthy all year he could put up those types of numbers.

[Debra]

Fitzy, to your point, he's on pace right now for 198 targets, 164 receptions, almost 1900 receiving arts. 1887. That's just stupid, man.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

You know. Do you know off the top of your head who's second in the NFL in receptions right now?

[Debra]

Oh good lord. I don't.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

It's Jake Ferguson.

[Debra]

What?

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Two only? Jake Ferguson only has two fewer catches than Puka Nukua. Jake Ferguson is on pace for 153 catches.

[Debra]

Right. That is a sultry stat. That's very well done. That's, that's. That's nice.

[Ryan Wormley]

It's not on the same level as Puka but I do think it is worth like giving some praise to Jonathan Taylor also who is having a ridiculous 110 rushing yards per game, averaging a touchdown per game. Although obviously on the ground. There's all came in the same matchup pace right now.

[Debra]

Like I'm asking, I'm about to look this up. Is he.

[Ryan Wormley]

I can't do that math that quickly. He has 338 rushing yards through three games. So I'm looking it up whatever that.

[Debra]

I'm letting pro football reference for me.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

You know, a couple years ago whenever.

[Debra]

19, 15, 19.

[Ryan Wormley]

And he has, he has, he has finished the last. Each of the last two weeks. He's been RB1 on the week a.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Couple years ago before the, the injury everyone was saying like Nick Chubb was the best pure runner in the league even if he wasn't necessarily putting up the best numbers. Like I think Jonathan Taylor gets that title now. He is the best peer runner in the league.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah, I mean he, he does looks.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Really good and I think just more versatility More explosion, I think, than like Derrick Henry. Like, and Henry's great. And like, I just think he's got a little more, I think he's better inside than Bijan Robinson. Is.

[Debra]

Is my, My takeaway with JT2 is the injuries. I was lower on him and I'll own that than consensus. Like, I, I did not have good things to say because of Daniel Jones, the target chair, everything like that. The injuries really hurt him last year. And that's hard, that's a hard thing to quantify and know because we don't, we're not in the room and we don't know. But like, looking at the per rush metrics last year were horrible for jt. He's bounced back. Like, he's all the way back to like that though. Like, what Fitzy was talking about being like, in the conversation or leading the pack for the best pure rusher in the NFL right now. Like, the injuries were really, really bothersome for him last year.

[Ryan Wormley]

It's funny, I ranked him ahead of consensus, like for draft season, and, and yet I barely drafted him anywhere because I kept just going. I, I liked him at cost, but I just kept liking other players. There was always one player that fell to me that I liked a little bit better, usually at a different position. You know, like, I like the receiver there or felt like it was a league. I wanted to take a swing on Bowers or something like that. So I, I didn't.

[Debra]

You didn't know Daniel Jones is gonna be this year? Sam Darnold Worm, you didn't know that? I mean, that's what I, you know, we get in the comments these days. It's like, come on, guys. Like, I'm like, dude, if you told.

[Ryan Wormley]

Me the entire league stayed healthy this year, like, I, I don't think this is. I think Jonathan Taylor finishes his RB1 this year, like, assuming health. I, I, I legitimately think very highly of him, but Puka's been awesome also, so that's why I put them together. Let's go to the next game here. Jaguars at 49ers. Ricky Pearsall is ranked in three spots higher than Brian Thomas Jr. In this game. Game in the rest. Excuse me, not rest of season. In the expert consensus rankings for this week, but the rest of season rankings have Thomas eight spots ahead of Pierce Hall. Do both of those sound right to you? So again, I'll read that again. Cause I kind of stumbled over that. Pierce hall is three spots higher for this week in the consensus rankings, but Thomas is eight spots higher for rest of season in the consensus rankings. Fitz, do those both sound right to you or would you change either?

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Yeah, no, I understand that disparity and I have that same type of disparity in my own rankings for Ricky Piersol and Brian Thom for week four and the rest of the season. Part of the reason I have Pearsall ranked wide receiver 12 this week is because George Kittle isn't playing and Juwan Jennings might not play, but those guys are both going to be playing soon. And then I might not have Pearsall ranked in the top 20 or top 25. Brian Thomas Jr. Things are just so bad right now. It seems like he has the yips. He's caught seven out of 25 targets, a 28% catch rate. Really hard to confidently endorse him this week when things are so bad, but we've seen how good this guy can be. Like, I don't think it's crazy to think BTJ can get the train back on the tracks at some point and be something closer to the Brian Thomas Jr. We saw last year.

[Ryan Wormley]

What do you think, Dbro?

[Debra]

I think Pierce all should be ahead of him in both of them. I, I worry about George Kittle coming back. I'm not that worried about Brandon Iuk. We saw the statement saying that he's Nowhere close to 100% or seeing the field. Juwan Jennings, I can't at this point of the season. He's already like really, really banged up. Is he gonna make it through the season? I don't know. So this could be legit. The cmc, Piersol and George Kittle show. And if that's the case, he's got enough volume, man. And Ricky P. Has been freaking fantastic. Like we all like, everybody's like, oh, can he really step forward and be the guy? Can he be the guy that, you know, first round wide receiver? And with the final two games of last year real when the 49ers put it at his feet and said, can you step up and be the number one guy we needed you to be? And he's wide receiver 16. He's got a 21 target share. He's averaging 93.7 receiving yards. He's got 2.6 yards per route run and he's commanding almost a 28 first reach here outside of the target share. The rest of those are wide receiver one numbers. So I don't have a lot of questions about Ricky P. I got tons of questions about Brian Thomas Jr. Whether it's Liam Cohen, that offense, Trevor Lawrence, Brian Thomas Jr. Himself and whether this is his play or in his head or the wrist injury because again, we don't know the severity of that. They could say he's a full practice and that doesn't mean anything, man. Like these guys practice reports and I'm not saying I'm not conspiracy theory like but I've been around fantasy and the NFL long enough that we see every single year reports documentaries, Netflix specials come out and it's like, oh, this dude was way more hurt than we thought or he was a, a full time practice participant and but now we have video stuff on the Netflix documentary saying they're like, bro, I couldn't even make a fist. I couldn't even pick up like a soda to drink with that arm. Like if, if ever would y' all be this surprised if this week's game we get one of those sideline clips like everybody was doing with Joe Burrow before. Like Look, Brian Thomas Jr. Is not grabbing his water bottle with, with that hand. Oh, like I'm not gonna be shocked. So I, I think it's just I'm going with talent and I'm going with the healthy guy and who's producing Ricky Piersol.

[Ryan Wormley]

Let's go to Ravens at Chiefs. The Ravens defense has been really bad in their two games against non Browns offenses and their entire starting defensive line is now injured. Although Travis Jones did return to practice on Thursday, it was in a limited capacity obviously. Namdi Mattabuque is still not going to be playing this week. We don't know if and when he'll with his next stuff. And of course Kyle Van Noy still not pract. You know, it's, it's very bad situation.

[Debra]

Sounds so sad. I know.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Listen to the phrasing of this question. Oh my goodness me.

[Debra]

Andy are grinning because you sound so.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Painful laying all this out worm a Hallmark card.

[Debra]

I know you were like the Ravens defense is playing so bad. Like I was like, oh this dude's going through it. Like no, no.

[Ryan Wormley]

I mean obviously it has been tough. I, I, I. You might remember guys that I did kind of pretty I was the when I was pushing back the Ravens. No, no, what I'm saying is like I was, I kind of predicted that the run defense was going to be a problem this year and it's been much worse than I expected. Of course I didn't expect this level but that was my concern for the team going into the season. So it's not really even that surprising, you know, to me and crushing. It's just, it's kind of what I expected just on a more extreme version of it and of course the injuries. What I really feel bad about and actually like kind of crestfallen for is is Matt we Cake, who's a great player and seemingly a great person who has possibly not going to play again type of injury. Like it's, it's really unknown right now what's going on with his neck injury, but it's just very scary. But setting all that aside, the reason I bring this up is to say Isaiah Pacheco has also been super bad, but he now gets to go up against this really beaten up and you know, bad and no depth defensive line. So I'm wondering what kind of game you guys are expecting from Pacheco considering his poor start to the season, but that this is actually a very good matchup. And even if the Chiefs end up having to, if the Ravens offense, you know, plays really well even in a tough matchup against the Chiefs defense, well, maybe not that tough, but you know, a matchup that's given them, you know, problems in the past, the Chiefs will have to throw a lot. So you would think, well, maybe Pacheco doesn't do that well, but I think there will be scoring opportunities plus like I said, the beat up defensive line. So Fitz, I'll start with you on this one. What kind of game are you expecting from Pacheco given all that?

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

But even if he runs more effectively than he has in his first three games and he's only averaging 3.7 yards per carry with his longest run of the season going for just 10 yards, I don't know if he gets enough work to really move the needle in fantasy. Like Pacheco just the snap shares are around 50%. He hasn't had more than 10 carries in a game and he's only had six targets all season with just three in the last two weeks. So I don't really see a big game for him. And if he does go for 100 yards rushing against your Ravens worm, then it's safe to totally abandon hope.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah. If you can't take advantage of this matchup, I think that's a, that's a fair point. Dbro, what do you think?

[Debra]

I. I said exactly what I said in the primer. I'll say again here. Baltimore is a terrible run defense. If you're willing to flex Pacheco again at this point, Godspeed. Like he's not playing well. He's on an offense that has had. If he can't get it done through against the Giants, he's not going to get it done.

[Ryan Wormley]

I mean, if you're not. If. Well, let me ask you this, D. Bro, I started.

[Debra]

They don't want to run the ball either. They don't even want to run the ball.

[Ryan Wormley]

If you're not starting him in this matchup, shouldn't you just drop him? Why is he even on your team?

[Debra]

Yeah, like I. Dude, I don't disagree at all. Like, he's on it. He's not playing effectively on a per touch basis. He's in an offense that doesn't want to freaking run the ball. So even if you want to talk about volume, he's not going to get there. The Chiefs has already told you that they don't want to do that. They're not going to feature him. If anything, I'll take a left field shot on freaking Burchard Smith catching a wheel route in this game, then I will on freaking flexing Isaiah freaking Pacheco. And to that point, the Ravens have been bad versus receiving backs over the last two years. So I would rather bet on that than anything with Pacheco. No, just I'm not, man. Like, it all lines up that he's not getting usage that the team doesn't want to want to run the freaking ball. He's not good at running the ball. Tell me, would y' all be surprised or if you're not betting this? But who leads them in carries this week? Isaiah, Pacheco or Cream Hunt?

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Yeah, Hunt.

[Debra]

Probably hunt.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Maybe 50. 50.

[Ryan Wormley]

But by the way, I don't have a good feel on the total for this game. It's at 49. I, I would bet a lot of money on Chiefs plus two and a half. I, I think that line is a mistake. The Ravens have beaten the Chiefs in this era of Lamar and Mahomes.

[Debra]

Oh, I think the Ravens are gonna hand it to him, man.

[Ryan Wormley]

They've only beaten them once ever. They, they, they get out of their themselves when they face Kansas City. It's in Kansas City. They just, they, they freak them. Even when they are the better team, they get in their own heads and they always, they get away from who they are. They always look bad against Steve Spagnolo. Like, I, I don't understand why the Chiefs are dogs. And also the, the ref in this game, Warren Sharp, was just tweeting this out. I forget the ref's name, but he. I just saw this earlier this morning. That lifetime in games that the Ravens have played with this ref, they're 0 and 3. And the Chiefs lifetimes in game with this ref are 6 0. So like it just is very much going against the Ravens. Even setting aside the fact that they're always bad against the Chiefs. Like, you know, we're going to get.

[Debra]

One of those moments where Mahomes like does that crap where he runs along the sideline and then he like tries to fall over and pretend like somebody tried to like take his head off whenever they touched his thigh or something.

[Ryan Wormley]

I've like, obviously I would love to be wrong, but I really do not think the Ravens are winning this game. I, I will be very shocked, honestly. I, I think Chiefs plus two and a half is a smash, but I would love to be wrong. So we'll see what happens.

[Debra]

I, I, I, I will be the Ravens fan for this. I think they win. I think the Chiefs just don't have the firepower.

[Ryan Wormley]

Man, I, I appreciate you taking up the the torch for me here. Bears at Raiders. Caleb Williams and the Bears are coming off their best game of the season, but it did come against the Talis defense that makes everybody look like they have the best game of their season. How will Chicago follow it up against the RA bro?

[Debra]

I think well and I think this Raiders defense is slowly evolving into the Raiders defense that thought I thought we were going to get this year and they're not very good. Their secondary is not very good. Like, they've given up the 7th highest yards per attempt, 10th highest passer rating, and 10th most passing yards per game. I think it's another opportunity for Roma Dunes A to just eat, man. Lots of single high coverage. He's got a 29.6 target share. I think Caleb's gonna feature him and they're. I think Caleb's gonna have another good day.

[Ryan Wormley]

By the way, just because I only just mentioned this, and this came out a minute ago on Twitter. Kyle Van Noy was back at practice for the Ravens, for whatever that's worth.

[Debra]

Let's go. Let's go.

[Ryan Wormley]

All right. So, all right. Ravens minus two and a half. Go for it.

[Debra]

No, it's your first course, people.

[Ryan Wormley]

Yeah.

[Debra]

Love to see it. Yeah.

[Ryan Wormley]

Calvino moves the line. Five points for me. Fitz, what do you think on Bears Raiders?

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Well, The Raiders are 26th in DVOA against the past. They're 21st in pressure rate. So Caleb kind of goes from one soft matchup against Dallas into another against Las Vegas. He's QB3 in fantasy scoring, sixth in passer rating among quarterbacks with more than one starts tied for second and touchdown passes, 11th in passing yardage. It's been pretty Good. And he's adding rushing value too with 97 rushing yards and a touchdown. Looks like a pretty good spot for him. And you know, maybe this Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams marriage is going to work after all.

[Ryan Wormley]

I Debra, have you started to. I'm guessing the answer to this is no, but do you feel any differently about like Caleb's long term outlook after the start of this season or No.

[Debra]

I, I don't want to sound like just the Caleb hater constantly. I, I do think it has to get pointed out that like I think it was three or all of it. All of his passing touchdowns were against terrible blown assignments by Dallas. So it, I don't think we've seen a big enough sample, especially him versus like actually good defenses. I think he's gotten a lot of cupcake matchups. He's going to get another one this week. Not saying that he won't, but I want to see Caleb perform better when things are not going his way in the sense of when a team can pressure you and it's against a good like not like a freaking Minnesota Vikings, but like a top, top 7 to 10 defense that can get after him. That's. That's the litmus test of like playing on schedule and back foot rip it and playing better against pressure instead of trying to hero ball and falling back into the things. That's what I want to see for Caleb Williams. He does that. I'm more in the in the camp of believing than I am still skeptical.

[Ryan Wormley]

Sunday Night Football packers at Cowboys what is the Cowboys passing game going to look like against what is a great defense? And also that they are in fact without CD Lamb. Fitz, I'll start with you.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Probably not pretty. The packers are really applying the heat on quarterbacks and they're giving up 4.8 yards per pass attempt. And I just, I don't know if George Pickens can be a lead receiver in place of Lamb. That was kind of one of the things that had us excited. Maybe people who wanted to invest in Pickens that he didn't have to be a lead receiver. With CD Lamb around he could just kind of do his thing. Like I'm, I don't. He doesn't really run the whole route tree. Like his thing is making big plays down the sideline and asking him to be a one for one CD Lamb replacement just doesn't work. So I think they're going to struggle.

[Ryan Wormley]

What do you think dbra?

[Debra]

I mean I think what are we going to see from the Cowboys offense? We're going to see A crap ton of George Pickens and Jake Ferguson. So I, I, I don't know how much success they're going to have and I think a lot of that comes down to, I mean they're down some offensive linemen. I don't know how much time Dak is going to have, but I think that Pickens and Jake Ferguson are going to get a crap ton of targets like pencil them both in for like 8 to 12 targets. They're going to get featured. And historically George Pickens is very good against single high. Like that's his bread and butter. So I've got a little more hope against like if you were to tell me the packers drop into like a too high shell, then good luck. I mean Ferguson is would be it and Pickens is going to struggle. But if, if the packers match him up with single high, I think Pickens can have some success because he's going to get force fed volume. But I'm not telling anybody it's going to be pretty because Michael Parsons is in that backfield all freaking day standing over Dak Prescott. It's, it's not going to be good.

[Ryan Wormley]

How many sacks is Micah getting in this game, Fitz?

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

I'll say just one because he's going to get double and triple teamed all game. But like collectively I think the packers.

[Ryan Wormley]

Are getting just one.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

The packers are going to get six but Micah just gets one because of all the defensive attention and Debro mentioned it, they've got, they lost their starting center, Cooper Beebe. He's not playing first round. Rookie Tyler Booker, he's out for this game. So like, like down a couple of starting offensive linemen against this packers pass rush is just not a good scene for the Cowboys.

[Ryan Wormley]

Debra.

[Debra]

I'll take the over. I think Parsons Saxon twice. Like if I was a betting book I would sit the line at one and a half.

[Ryan Wormley]

All right, let's go to. We have two games on Monday night Football. Jets at Dolphins is the first one. Breeze hall now has had back to back tough games coming off of his great week one. He now gets the Dolphins defense in a possible get right game. Dbro predict his stat line.

[Debra]

Dude, this is a fun nerd experience for me. I love this question because I like went through. I got into it deep in the bag. Like I was like all right we're gonna go rushing rate. We're looking at rushing volume. I want to sit here and see how many project like I went like full projections mode with this. So and then afterwards I compared it against what's live on fantasy pro site I was pretty freaking close, man. So I have Breeze hall for 16 rushing attempts, 80 rushing yards, two catches, 21 receiving yards and I'll give him a score. I know as the red zone's been more brave on Allen, so maybe that goes sideways. The site had him for 14.4, 62.4, three catches and 26 yards. So comparatively I'm a little more bullish because I think the jets are just, I mean the Dolphins run defense has got awful, so I'm more ceiling focused here. But 18 touches versus the site, 17 and a half. I have 101 total yards and the site for fantasy pros we haven't projected for 88.4, so pretty close fits.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Yeah, I'm actually pretty close to Debro on the rushing prediction and pretty close to our projections at fantasy pros with the, the receiving. So I've got 17 for 75 on the ground, three for 28 in the air. No, I'll say no touchdown touchdowns. But like opponents are running on the Dolphins defense at the highest rate in the league. Like Miami, opponents have run the ball in 52.8% of their offensive snaps. Interestingly enough, the jets are being run on at the second highest rate, 51.3%. So you know, this series has been interesting. The Dolphins have kind of had the jets number and you know, I was surprised when I saw that Miami opened as three point favorites. But then I, I kind of remember the recent history has been going in the Dolphins direction. So maybe we see like a run heavy attack for both teams here. Although I don't know. I don't. I can't see the Dolphins just pounding away with the running game. But you never know. This is going to be, this is kind of a sneaky, interesting game. I think.

[Ryan Wormley]

Last game of the week, Bengals at Broncos. Cincinnati got completely destroyed in week three and you might be able to point to the matchup as particularly tough. But. But a game at the Broncos is not that much easier for a backup quarterback. So how well do we think the Bengals offense will bounce back? Debro?

[Debra]

They won't. They're not going to bounce back against this defense. The the same problems that Jake Browning had against Minnesota. Tell me if this sounds familiar. Now he faces a defense with Denver that has the 12th best pressure rate and they blitz at the third highest freaking rate. Sound pretty similar to Brian Flores because it is, it is a lot of man coverage. Jamar Chase is going to get wrapped up a Patrick Certain this week. So that's not good. They cannot Run the ball. The Bengals have arguably the worst offensive line in the NFL. Poor Chase Brown, dude. He has the lowest yards before contact per attempt in the NFL to work with not even a full freaking yard. 0.43. This man is getting contacted before he even gets 3ft past the freaking offensive line. So good luck. Like you're starting Jamar Chase. And outside of Jamar Chase, I don't. But you're just starting Jamar Chase in principle because of based off of talent and volume. It's not because if you took the name Jamar Chase out of this, do I want to go up against Patrick freaking certain? No, I do not. But outside of that, I don't want to start a single other Bengal this week. None.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Fitz, I thought Chase Brown was actually averaging negative yards before contact per attempt. Is that wrong? Maybe I'm wrong on that. But at any rate, the Bengals offensive line ranks dead last in the league in the adjusted line yards run blocking metrics. So, yeah, it's just hard to see any hope for the running game. And then the Bengals have given up 10 sacks and face arguably the best pass rush in the league. Or maybe it's Green Bay is, you know, one of the best pass rushes in the league. Nick Bonito is just like that dude is darn near unblockable for the Broncos. He is just so good. I don't see much hope for the Bengals offense.

[Debra]

Honestly, Fitzy, you're almost right. Chase Brown, 0.02 yards before contact. He's barely at the positive, baby. That is by a toenail.

[Pat Fitzmaurice]

Blue Dog, Blue Tarski.

[Debra]

So bad, dude. It's so bad.

[Ryan Wormley]

On that lovely note, we'll go ahead and wrap up the show because we went a little long. Best of luck to everybody here in week four. For Debro and Fitz, I'm Ryan Warmley. Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you again next time. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football podcast. If you love the show, the best free way to support us is by leaving a positive review on Apple Podcasts, at fantasypros.com review or on Spotify. Follow us on X Instagram and Tik Tok at Fantasy Pros and subscribe to our YouTube [e-mail] fantasypros hey, what's up?

[Debra]

It's Mario Lopez.

[Ryan Wormley]

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[Debra]

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[Ryan Wormley]

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[Debra]

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[Ryan Wormley]

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[Debra]

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[Pat Fitzmaurice]

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[Debra]

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[Ryan Wormley]

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[Debra]

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[Pat Fitzmaurice]

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[Debra]

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[Pat Fitzmaurice]

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[Ryan Wormley]

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[Debra]

FDIC subject to credit approval.

[Ryan Wormley]

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