FantasyPros - The Biggest Fantasy Football Questions For Each Week 5 Matchup (Ep. 1751)

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: The Herd with Colin Cowherd (FantasyPros Takeover)
Episode: The Biggest Fantasy Football Questions For Each Week 5 Matchup (Ep. 1751)
Date: October 4, 2025
Hosts: Ryan Warmley, Derek Brown ("Debro"), Pat Fitzmaurice ("Fitzy")
Theme: In-depth fantasy football analysis and rankings discussion for each NFL Week 5 game, with a focus on key questions, strategic decisions, and player insights for fantasy managers.

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode is a comprehensive preview of NFL Week 5 from a fantasy football perspective. The hosts debate challenging start/sit choices, analyze breaking lineup news, and hash out consensus and contrarian fantasy rankings for key players. Four teams are on bye (Falcons, Packers, Bears, Steelers), making lineup decisions even more crucial. With several major injuries and changes at quarterback, the crew helps fantasy managers navigate chaos and optimize their lineups.

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Key Topics & Insights (With Timestamps)

1. Welcome, Sunday Slate Overview, and Byes

[00:39]

• Ryan highlights the start of bye weeks: “Falcons, Packers, Bears, and Steelers are all on bye this week… make sure you’re not starting anyone from those teams.”
• Urges managers to use FantasyPros Autopilot, especially for international games (Vikings vs. Browns in London), to avoid being stuck with injured/inactive players unexpectedly.

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2. Vikings vs. Browns – Rookie QB Start & Fantasy Outlook

[01:43–05:47]

• Browns start rookie QB Dylan Gabriel in his first NFL game (against Brian Flores’ blitz-heavy Vikings defense).
• Debro: “The only guy you’re confidently starting [for the Browns] is Quinshon Judkins... I worry about how the Browns move the ball.”
• Fitzy: “I don’t want to start any Browns pass catchers. Not Jerry Jeudy, not David Njoku, not Harold Fannin… Gabriel’s just not going to be ready for what Flores will throw at him.”
• Judkins ranks: Fitzy RB15, consensus RB14, both cautious due to likely low offensive output.

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3. Texans at Ravens – "Stink Off" Battle and Injury Fallout

[05:47–12:46]

• Both teams struggle: Texans’ offense is poor, Ravens’ defense is ravaged by injuries.
• Fitzy: “We talked about this on the Start/Sit Show… I think the Ravens defense, even in its injury depleted state, can win a stink off against the Texans O-line.”
• Debro: “I’m taking the Texans here... if they’re gonna show life versus anybody, it’s against the Ravens’ depleted defense. Nico Collins and Christian Kirk are in play; good matchup for Dalton Schultz.”
• Texans RBs (Woody Marks vs. Chubb): Marks a strong RB2 for Debro (RB18); Fitzy is more cautious (RB25), sees committee.
• Ravens fantasy plays if Lamar is out: “Start Derrick Henry and Zay Flowers, maybe Mark Andrews but that’s shaky.” (Debro, [11:52])
• Fitzy on Flowers: “WR20—just enough with byes and injuries, but not an exciting play. I even bet the over on Cooper Rush’s passing yards.”

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4. Dolphins at Panthers – Tyreek Hill’s Absence & Miami Playmakers

[13:56–17:30]

• Who benefits most in fantasy with Tyreek Hill out?
• Fitzy: “Malik Washington is a sneaky play this week (WR36). Jalen Waddle gets a bump, and Darren Waller is a playable TE. Devon Achane could go Christian McCaffrey mode.”
• Debro: “It’s Waddle and Waller, with Waddle finally seeing a true WR1 target share. Waller becomes top-15 TE against a defense giving up big production to TEs.”
• Brief debate on whether Carolina’s T.McMillan will finally score a TD—Debro is optimistic, Fitzy less so ([21:21]).

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5. Raiders at Colts – Ashton Jeanty: Real or Mirage?

[22:06–23:36]

• Both agree Jeanty’s breakout is legitimate “for at least another week” due to Indy’s poor run defense, but remain wary long-term due to O-line limitations.
• Fitzy: “Jeanty is so hard to tackle with amazing contact balance… but there will be rough days because the Raiders’ offensive line is so shaky.”

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6. Quick Thursday Night Football Review – Rams & Patriots Offensive Explosions

[23:36–27:38]

• Debro: “Can any Rams RB hold on to the ball? Kyren Williams gets a long leash, but watch for a changed split with Blake Corum. Stafford is a fantasy fringe QB1 moving forward.”
• Fitzy on Mac Jones: “Heroic effort… could be a Sam Darnold type, career backup but has starting-caliber moments.”
• Rams are “fantasy dream team” right now: start Puka, Devonte, Kyren, and Stafford.
• Debro apologizes for the Ravens defense state as a fan.

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7. Giants at Saints – Dart’s Value Without Malik Nabers

[27:48–31:51]

• Jackson Dart (“Debro’s boy”) ranked QB15 for Fitzy, QB11 for Debro for this week—“rushing is there, but passing will be up and down without Nabers.”
• Darius Slayton gets a large target share in Nabers’ absence.
• Fitzy: “Scatterbo’s volume keeps his floor solid despite heavier boxes.”
• Debro on team vibes: “Dart and Scatterbo changed the energy for the Giants.”

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8. Cowboys at Jets – Most Difficult Players to Rank

[34:01–38:34]

• Debro struggles with Mason Taylor: “I have him as a TE1 while consensus is down at TE21…his usage, matchup, and the high total line up for me.”
• Fitzy hesitant, says more evidence is needed: “I guess I need a little bit longer audition.”
• Both QBs, Justin Fields and Dak Prescott, are hard to rank due to weapon/injury mix—Fitzy has Fields QB5, Dak QB12: “Not sure if that’s too high or too low.”
• Debro reassures on Dak: “Jets have third lowest pressure rate, so Dallas’ O-line will be helped. It’ll be a good game for Dak.”

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9. Broncos at Eagles – RJ Harvey and Saquon Barkley

[39:59–44:26]

• RJ Harvey breakout is “real” (Debro, [40:58]), Denver offense now goes through ground game.
• Philadelphia’s run D is not as strong as perception. Both have Harvey as a top-24 RB.
• Saquon Barkley: volume’s there, but O-line regression means poor efficiency is likely to continue; both hosts express “low to moderate concern.”

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10. Titans at Cardinals – Backfield Choices

[44:39–47:06]

• Debro: “Both Michael Carter and Amari Demercado are flex-worthy. If picking one, it’s Carter—he’ll have the James Conner early-down role.”
• Fitzy: “Carter’s likely the ‘starting’ back (per his own words), but both are playable options against a weak Titans run D.”

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11. Buccaneers at Seahawks – Handling the Tampa Backfield

[47:06–49:00]

• White is a top-24 RB for both, Tucker is more of a deep flex given uncertainty.
• Fitzy: “White’s a pass catcher, but 3.9 YPC is telling. Tucker at RB38—monitor but don’t start unless desperate.”
• Debro: “White’s high-leverage touches and passing-game role keep him as a strong RB2—even with Evans out.”

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12. Lions at Bengals – Should You Trust Bengals Again?

[49:53–53:32]

• T. Higgins back to WR3 territory, Jamar Chase still locked-in starter.
• Fitzy: "Chase Brown RB23 for me, volume trumps inefficiency when byes hit."
• Both agree: don’t bench Chase or Higgins, despite tough recent weeks. “Having a stud WR with bad circumstances can drag you down, but this isn’t the Titanic just yet.” (Ryan, [51:42])

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13. Commanders at Chargers – Impact of O-Line Injuries

[54:47–56:39]

• Chargers missing both starting tackles: Debro says limited impact this week due to weak Washington pressure, but future weeks could be rough.
• Slot WR Lad McConkey is a sneaky play: “Commanders get beat up by slot receivers…this is Lad week.” (Fitzy, [55:46])
• Both cautiously bump Chargers skill positions down a peg, but are not mass benching them.

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14. Quick Dynasty Trade Talk

[56:59–59:25]

• Trade: Puka Nacua for Quentin Johnston and Drake London.
• Both agree: “Trade is fair, but Puka’s production is so valuable it’s hard to give up unless you’re worried about health.” (Ryan, [58:42])

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15. Patriots at Bills – SNF, Bold Calls & Consensus Disagreements

[59:53–63:46]

• Dbro’s prediction: Bills 28, Patriots 24; Fitzy: Bills 31, Patriots 27. Both expect a close, high-scoring game with the Patriots covering.
• Debro: “Ramondre Stevenson should be ranked well above Travion Henderson this week—role and matchup.”
• Fitzy: “I have Drake May QB3 this week—game script will push him into a shootout.” Also defends keeping Henderson high due to big-play ability and Ramondre’s fumble risk.

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16. Chiefs at Jaguars – Was KC’s Explosive Game Worthy or Weak Ravens?

[64:21–66:42]

• Fitzy: Worthy brings explosive playmaking, but real test is how KC holds up vs. Jaguars’ Josh Hines-Allen. “Cautiously optimistic about the Chiefs offense…depends on how they block Hines-Allen.”
• Debro: “KC facing a Jags D that’s third in least missed tackles, lowest passer rating, league-leading INTs—expect unders. Chiefs may come back to earth; Jags D is for real.”

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Notable Quotes & Highlights

• “The only guy you're confidently starting [from the Browns] is Quinshon Judkins. Good luck, young sir. That's all I can say.” — Debro ([02:39])
• “If the Texans light up the Ravens for 30 points and 450 yards, you are allowed to adopt a new team for the season. You have my permission.” — Fitzy ([06:03])
• “I just moved [Woody] Marks up to RB18. It’s the pass-catching edge.” — Debro ([09:05])
• “Don’t start any Ravens except Derrick Henry and Zay Flowers if Lamar is out.” — Debro ([11:52])
• “Waddle's going to stand the most… they’re gonna have to run the passing offense through him now” — Debro ([15:49])
• “Malik Washington is a sneaky play this week.” — Fitzy ([13:56])
• “Kyren [Williams] can do no wrong… is Matthew Stafford a fringe QB1 moving forward?” — Debro ([24:26])
• “Jackson Dart… QB15 for me this week, QB20 rest of season. The rushing numbers will be good, the passing, not so much.” — Fitzy ([28:28])
• “If the ball's not going to Garrett Wilson, it's going to Mason Taylor. I think Mason Taylor should be a TE1 this week.” — Debro ([34:26])
• “I don’t know if it’s possible for Saquon to be as efficient as last year, but at least he’s being used more in the passing game.” — Fitzy ([42:47])
• “Trade’s fair: Puka Nacua for Quentin Johnston and Drake London. But Puka’s a league-winner, so it’s hard to give up unless you’re worried about injuries.” — Debro ([58:42])
• “I have Drake May QB3 this week… he’ll be in a shootout versus Josh Allen.” — Fitzy ([61:00])
• “Jaguars defense is for real, this game is going to be a lot uglier than people expect... Chiefs come back to earth.” — Debro ([65:21])

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• International Game/Autopilot Tip: [00:39–01:43]
• Browns/Vikings Analysis: [01:43–05:47]
• Ravens/Texans “Stink Off”: [05:47–12:46]
• Dolphins/Panthers w/o Tyreek: [13:56–17:30]
• Jeanty’s breakout & Colts: [22:06–23:36]
• TNF Recap: [23:36–27:38]
• Giants/Saints (Dart, Vibes): [27:48–31:51]
• Cowboys/Jets Ranking Dilemmas: [34:01–38:34]
• Harvey/Saquon/Broncos-Eagles: [39:59–44:26]
• Titans/Cardinals backfield: [44:39–47:06]
• Bucs/Seahawks backfield: [47:06–49:00]
• Lions/Bengals WRs: [49:53–53:32]
• Chargers w/o Tackles: [54:47–56:39]
• Dynasty Trade Talk: [56:59–59:25]
• SNF Patriots/Bills: [59:53–63:46]
• Chiefs/Jaguars Offense: [64:21–66:42]

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Final Thoughts

This episode offers actionable and nuanced fantasy football advice for Week 5, especially in identifying trustworthy starters amidst injuries and byes. The hosts maintain their banter and disagree in good faith, providing a range of rankings and risk assessments. Notable are their transparency with rankings (giving exact RB/WR/TE positions) and their willingness to debate both consensus and contrarian picks, rooted in film and statistical research.

For fantasy managers, key takeaways include:

• Conservative approach with Browns, Ravens, and Chargers players due to QB and O-line injuries.
• Chase the volume on RBs like Jeanty, Harvey, Carter, and White, but temper expectations for touchdown upside in bad offenses.
• WRs like Zay Flowers, Higgins, and Washington are viable due to opportunity more than matchup.
• Monitoring usage and snap shares is critical—names like Mason Taylor, Malik Washington, Nick Westbrook-Ikhine, and Rashad White were dived into in detail.
• Start studs like Chase, Waddle, and Barkley unless circumstances become dire—and trust the process on guys with established talent.

The show ends with a look-ahead to next week, previews of game script expectations (especially for SNF/MNF), and further encouragement for listeners to check their lineups and use premium ranking tools.

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Useful for fantasy managers seeking:

• Up-to-the-minute rankings context
• Data-driven yet practical lineup guidance
• Clear explanations and player comps
• Entertaining but insightful fantasy football talk

Transcript

[Ryan Warmley]

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[Ryan Warmley]

Hello everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm Ryan Warmley, joined as I am every Friday morning by Derek Brown and by Pat Fitzmaurice. We are talking our week five key questions. Quick reminder for everybody that all of our weekly consensus rankings and tiers can be [e-mail] rankings. Guys, we have a couple fewer games to talk about. We are into by season, which is frustrating when setting lineups, but it's really nice when I'm doing this show and you can kind of focus a little more on some of the other matchups and not have so many games to get through. We've got four teams on by some good fun players here. It's going to be, you know, it's not Buymageddon with, you know, six teams on by, but there are a lot of good players. Falcons, Packers, Bears and Steelers are all on by this week. So just in case for some reason anybody watching missed that and just forgot to check that for their lineup this week, go check that because there are teams that will not be playing. Also go check if you have any guys in the Vikings Browns game because we have another early game, we could jump right into that one here over in London. So I will say once again and we'll talk about a little bit more later, I'll say this for every international game get Fantasy Pros autopilot. Do not get stuck with like a Jalen Warren situation last week where it was maybe less of a true surprise in the morning that he was not playing. But we, you know, he went into Saturday night questionable, ended up not playing. Alvin Kamara is really the best example from a few years ago where you got that surprise scratch and a lot of managers got stuck with zeros. Autopilot will help you make that not happen. It doesn't have to set your whole lineup for you. You can include it to just do inactive players swap out. So I would strongly recommend that as long as the international games are going on and even for the rest of the season. But that first international game for this week, the only international game, like I mentioned, Vikings, Browns, kind of an obvious question, you know, angle to hit on this one. Not an easy spot for Dylan Gabriel's first career start. Brown's finally making the change after Joe Flacco looking very bad for most of the season. So, D. Ross, I'll start with you. What are your expectations for Brown's players this week?

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Just in general, I think this is going to be a rough game for the Browns, man. I think the only guy you're confidently starting is Quinchon Judkins. Based off the volume. And you can run against the Vikings defense, they've given up the ninth most rushing yards per game, seventh highest yards of contact per attempt. So outside of him, I don't know how the Browns are going to move this ball, man. Like, I, I worry that, like, why are you throwing Dylan Gabriel into his first NFL career start against this freaking defense where, you know, Brian Flores is going to heat him up, he's going to blitz him, they're going to pressure him and Dylan Gabriel for as much as people want to talk about, like, I didn't dislike him as a prospect, but I mean very much every part of an Oregon quarterback coming out, it was either screens or deep balls and manufactured stuff. Good luck, young sir. That's all I could say.

[Ryan Warmley]

Fitz, what do you think and specifically what are your expectations for Gabriel and this offense against a Vikings defense that has made other quarterbacks look bad at times this year?

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Expectations are pretty low, warm. It is an interesting choice for the Browns to make the switch to a rookie quarterback now for an overseas game against the Brian Flores defense. Like, I understand that Joe Flacco got old fast and couldn't remain the starter, but man, like, couldn't you wait a week? I suppose a road game against Pittsburgh in Week 6 wouldn't have been that much easier, but boy, this is a really tough spot for Dylan Gabriel. Flores is just going to throw all sorts of exotic stuff at him, like complicated blitzes, twists and stunts, simulated pressure. He'll play a heavy front with, like zone coverage behind it. Stuff that Dylan Gabriel is just not going to be ready for. He will be given some really complicated problems to solve in his first NFL start. And because of that, like, I don't really want to start any Browns pass catchers. Like, not Jerry Judy, not David Nijoku, not Harold Fannin. You're starting Quinton Judkins for the volume, but like, if the Browns can't get first downs, it's possible Judkins only finishes with 13 or 14 carries. Even even if the Browns are running at a high rate to try to take heat off Gabriel. But you know, if, if Gabriel and the Browns can't pick up first downs, it's going to be a bad day for Judkins too. I think I have all the Browns ranked slightly below consensus and it's not like the consensus rankings of any of these guys are that high.

[Ryan Warmley]

Well, I do want to ask on Judkins specifically cause Fitz, I know you you tend to be drawn towards volume above everything else for some players, but there's so much going against Jud. We talked a little bit about this on the Thursday show with Jake this week too. So but just for our Friday show audience, I'm curious, where do you have Judkins ranked? Are you giving more credence to the volume or are you more fading because of he's going to get all this attention and the offense is likely not going to move the ball very well.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

I mean I've got him running back 15 which I think might be like.

[Ryan Warmley]

A he's 14 in ECR.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Yeah. So one spot behind consensus. I just, as I mentioned, I worry yes, there's going to be volume, but the volume might not be what we had hoped if the bronze just can't move the ball.

[Ryan Warmley]

Yeah. All right, let's get into the kind of main release Sunday slate here. First game up Texans at Ravens. This one is also very simple fits the Texans offense is horrific. The Ravens defense might be worse. Which unit wins that battle this week?

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Oh yeah, we talked about this on the start sit show with Jake Seeley. Worm, I know you think the Ravens defense can't win a stink off against the Texans offensive line. I think the Ravens defense even in its injury depleted state can win a stink off against the Texans offensive line. I'm sure you guys have probably seen the play from last week where C.J. stroud got sacked on like the second step of a seven step drop. Like his right guard and right tackle just ran into each other right off the snap and everyone else triple teamed one guy and I think it was Jeffrey Simmons who just blasted through completely unblocked. Probably a guy you should think about blocking on any sort of passing play. I know the Ravens are just like defense playing poorly. Injuries galore. I think Kyle Hamilton is now in doubt because of a groin injury. But Worm, I still think I'm taking the Ravens defense in the stink off if the Tekken Texans light up the Ravens for 30 points and 450 yards. Like you are allowed to adopt a new team for the season. You have my permission.

[Ryan Warmley]

I, I can't believe I don't have that permission already. The way the first month has gone. I, I will say on the Ravens defense side, Debro, that Kyle Van Noy, I think is probably going to be back this week. Travis Jones could be back this week. So there are some reinforcements coming. Of course they're not. You know, going into last week they still had Roquan and Marlon Humphrey and those guys are now going to be out. So even when you get some back, you're still missing others. Kyle Hamilton, it doesn't. They didn't sound overly concerned. What just with him not practicing on Thursday. Obviously pay attention to that because, you know, if Namdi Madwique wasn't the most important defender on this team, you know, it clearly was Kyle Hamilton. So missing both those guys would be pretty bad. But I mean like, like Fitz was saying, dbro, the Texans offense has also been quite bad. Like this is if a depleted defensive line is going to win a battle in the trenches, it's against this O line.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

So I'll just read down the the Ravens injury list here.

[Ryan Warmley]

You said we don't have an hour D bro.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Oozy A. Hamilton Humphrey, Roquan Smith, Kyle Vanoy, Nate Wiggins, although Benoit probably is back. Like you're saying Worm. But basically half of their starting defense. I mean I'm taking the Texans here. I know it's been rough, I know it's not look good. But if they're going to show life versus anybody, I mean it's got to be against the Ravens defense. So I mean I think they have enough like parts of pieces like however you want to dice this up. Like the Ravens depleted past defense. Can we get Nico Collins, get Christian Kirk a third week in the in the lineup going. It's a good matchup for Dalton Schultz as well and Woody Marks. Like. So I think Ray, the Houston Texans are going to have some life here. I'm not saying it's going to look pretty. I will go out on a limb and I know this is not like a long and tenuous limb. I'll say the Texans will put up the most points that they have put up the entire season in this game.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Wow. Can we talk about Marks for a second? Where do you have him ranked? Dbrow?

[D. Ross (Debro)]

I got him as a strong RB2. I'm looking at it right now. I've got. I just moved him up in ranks. RB18 right now. Where do you got him at Fitzy.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

I've got him down at RB25. Like, I, I just, I don't know if it's a full backfield takeover. I still think it's.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Do you think it was like a one game sample? Like, are you hedging a little bit with Chubb?

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Yeah, I mean, I think it's going to be close to a 50, 50 and it was pretty close to a 50, 50 last week. Honestly, like, I don't think Chubb is just totally disappearing and, you know, a 50, 50 on a team with a really bad offensive line. I just don't want to rank either back all that aggressively. But Marks does have pass catching as an out, which is nice.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

That's. That's kind of where I pushed the needle to Marks and why I moved him up is the pass catching. And the Ravens even at full strength historically the last two years.

[Ryan Warmley]

That's exactly what I was gonna say.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Give up versus receiving.

[Ryan Warmley]

They give up passes to running backs even when they're healthy.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Yep. And that's why I think Stroud like to alleviate any quick pressures, things like that. I think Marks being involved in the passing game is going to be huge for them.

[Ryan Warmley]

They expert consensus rankings has Marks right in the middle of YouTube. He's RB21. So almost exactly splitting the difference between your guys's rankings. Yeah, I mean, like, you talk all this time about like the trenches and everything, you know, Texans offensive line, Ravens defensive line, like the Ravens secondary with all those guys like Nate Wiggins if he's the limited out play. Like, I don't know who, who can cover Nico Collins on, on this Ravens team.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

So literally, who's going to be their starting corners? Like, I, I got to pull up their depth chart. Like, I, I don't even know who.

[Ryan Warmley]

J. J. Alexander might be back on the field this week out of like just necessity.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Who's got the other two spots?

[Ryan Warmley]

I mean, I, I don't know.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Kenyon Martin. I'm today years old finding out that you're an NFL player. TJ Tampa. Okay. Good luck, boys.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

It's when you've got six starters less healthy than J. Alexander. You're. You're pretty beaten up.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

It's not good.

[Ryan Warmley]

Yeah. I think it's Keon Martin, by the way, not Kenyon. Which, but I'm not going to blame you for not knowing.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Oh, yeah.

[Ryan Warmley]

The name of the undrafted, you know, rookie on the Ravens. I do have a second question on this game just on the other side of this. Can, can we start any Ravens if Lamar is Out. I know that there has been some talk out of, you know, Baltimore this week that, you know, Cooper Rush is a professional. He's like 9 and 5 in his career, so he's won some games. Those were different situations he was in. Like, I know there's. There's okay players on this team like Ronnie Stanley's been banged up. The offensive line has been so bad. Like, Lamar, who gets out of sacks as well as any quarterback in football, has been just getting hammered behind the line of scrimmage because the offensive line has been bad. So I really worry about that for Cooper Rush. Like, this might be a game where they just hand off to Derek Henry 35 times because he's the only, like, good player that they have. But, I mean, there's guys like Zay Flowers, Mark Andrews, I just don't know how the Ravens are going to successfully get them the ball. Like, I would be trying to not start pretty much any Raven besides Derek Henry.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Honestly, Dee bro, you're starting Derek Henry and you're starting Zay Flowers, and I'm not probably starting anybody else outside of them. Like, I've seen people online like, asking me like, oh, Cooper Rush might feed Mark Andrews. I'm like, the Ravens don't even want to feed Mark Andrews. Like, the first game with Isaiah, likely his route share dropped below 60%. Like, I don't know why that keeps happening, but it's happening. So I think you're starting Derrick Henry for the volume because you can't ever sit him. Because of course, like, this is the game where he rips off like a 60 yard run for a touchdown. And you're starting Z. Flowers because again, I think the volume is going to be there for him. But outside of that, no, no tertiary pieces for me for. For the Ravens.

[Ryan Warmley]

Honestly, Fitz, I don't even really want to start Flowers if I can avoid it because this Texans defense is really quite good. And again, like the Ravens offensive line, Stingley's banged up.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

That kind of helps.

[Ryan Warmley]

That's true. But I just worry about the Texans pass rush. Honestly, I think Rush is going to be like, under. Under fire. And a lot of this game fits.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Yeah, I mean, I have Zay Flowers down at wide receiver 20, but in a week with four teams on by and a lot of wide receiver injuries, I mean, guys like, yeah, some of the players we've lost a wide receiver, I think you have to start them. No Mike Evans this week? No. Malik Neighbors? No. So I do think you play him. And believe it or not, I actually have bet the over on Cooper Rush passing yardage which was 185.5 yards on hard Rock as of Thursday night, really low. And like Rush made eight starts for the Cowboys last year after Dak Prescott got hurt at mid season and Cooper rush averaged 209.6 passing yards in those starts and that included a 45 yard game against the Eagles. So he had some pretty good days as a passer. And like I don't know about you Warren, but I still happen to think Todd Monken is a pretty good play call.

[Ryan Warmley]

I do, I do like Monkin. That that is a good point. All right, let's go to the next game. Dolphins at Panthers Fitz, I'll start with you. Which Dolphins? And I say Dolphins because it could be more than one. But if there is just one you want to kind of own in on, that's fine too. But which Dolphins benefit the most in fantasy value from Tyree kills injury?

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

I'm going to start with Malik Washington. Like he's been pretty heavily involved in the Miami offense even before the Tyreek Hill injury. Malik Washington has played at least 28 snaps in every game with snapchairs in like the 50 to 60% range. And Malik Washington is a short area receiver. His average depth of target is 5.1 yards. The Dolphins kind of have to do a lot of quick hitting stuff to protect tua. Like you can't have two of taking a lot of seven step drops. So Washington is a pretty good fit for this offense and they get him involved as a runner too. He has eight carries for 60 yards this year. This dude's good. Like in his final college season at Virginia, Malik Washington had 110 catches which I think is an ACC record for 1426 yards. Now I do think it's possible Nick Westbrook Akine and not Malik Washington plays more on with Jalen Waddle and two receiver sets because like Westbrook Akina is really the only big receiver the dolphins have. He's 622 11. Malik Washington is like 5 8, 185. But Westbrook Akina has never really been a high volume target earner and through four weeks Malik Washington has out snapped Westbrook Akine 124 to 79. So I think Malik Washington is like a sneaky play. This week I've got him wide receiver 36 in the rankings. Jalen Waddle probably gains a little value. Darren Waller, who had two touchdown catches on only 16 snaps last week, he becomes a playable tight end option. And Devon HN might just go into Christian McCaffrey mode where he's catching 10 passes every week.

[Ryan Warmley]

Debra, who stands? I mean, obviously it's the names that Fitz just mentioned who stands out most to you as the guy is. Is it Washington? Is it Waller at tight end? Is it. Is it Waddle just going supernova and getting as many targets as he can handle. Same for Achan. Where do you go with this?

[D. Ross (Debro)]

I mean, I think it's Waddle and Waller for me. I mean, I'm not disagreeing with Fitzy on Malik Washington. He's going to get a lot more relevance in the weeks to come. But I, I think it's Waddle, like in the sense that they're going to have to run the passing offense through him. And that's something Miami has been so reluctant to do. Like with Tyreek Hill around Joe. And Waddle's not sniffing a 25% target share and he should be. So now they're going to be forced to feed him a 25 target share because he deserves it and he's the clear number one option in this passing attack. So I think Waddle's going to stand the most. Like I've got him right now as wide receiver 17. And it I'm not worried about because Carolina plays so much zone coverage, J.C. horn's not going to shadow him or anything like that. They're going to move him around the formation to get him off a Horn who has honestly been freaking amazing this year. But Waddle, I think benefits a ton. And Darren Waller, like, I think his snapshare is going to go up. Like last year he only had our. Last week he only had a 37 route share. I think that's probably going to creep into like the 50 or 60% range. And honestly, if you were to tell me, like, I've got to look at where I've got him ranked this week. Fitzy, where do you have Waller ranked this week? Because I know we were talking about this earlier in the week. Where have you come down on him?

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Tight end 14, one spot ahead of Mark Andrews.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Yeah, I've got him inside my top 15 tight ends. I might bump him up a little bit more. Only because, dude, this is arguably the nut spot for tight ends like Carolina, 9th most fantasy points per game, 2nd most receiving arts to tight ends. So even at like a 50 to 60% route share, like the Dalton Kincaid kind of role, he's going to be targeted a ton. And I'm not telling you he gets two touchdowns. But if you're struggling at tight end, Darren Waller's worth a start. This week.

[Ryan Warmley]

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[Ryan Warmley]

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[D. Ross (Debro)]

I will say I'm a little bit surprised.

[Ryan Warmley]

Not gonna lie, I want to throw just a quick actually second question on the game we were just talking about, is this the week that Tea McMillan finally catches a touchdown? Yes or no?

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Debro I think it is only because Carolina's been trying to force feed him the ball. He's got three red zone targets in his last two games and if you're over at Hard Rock bet right now they've got the best odds on the board for him as an anytime touchdown scorer plus one.75 so count me in.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Fitz I want to say yes but.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

I There's hesitance in your voice Fitzy. I hear it.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

I know I like I mean McMillan's been playing so well under adverse circumstances but I think the realistically the better percentage play is that he does not score a touchdown.

[Ryan Warmley]

Go to the next game here. Raiders at Colts Was week four what we can expect from Ash and Genti moving forward or was he just taking advantage of the Bears defense?

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Dbro I think it was partially the Bears defense but I think we can the magic can continue for at least another week because Indy's rush defense has not been good. 8th highest explosive run rate, 5th highest yards before contact per attempt. And that's really the metric that I want to highlight for Genty when he's not getting a lot of help by his offensive line. And it's amazing that when we get a matchup where finally Ashton Genti is not hitting the backfield almost every single carry, some of the talking heads of media out there talking about he's a bust, he was terrible, he's not generational, he's not a great player and stuff like that, I don't see them chirping about that this week. And I'll say Genty continues this week, although he's going to be very matchup sensitive just because the offensive line that he's running behind this year.

[Ryan Warmley]

Fitz, what do you expect out of Genti for his follow up from that big breakout game?

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Debro touched on it. Even with the big day last week against the Bears. 155 yards from scrimmage and three touchdowns. And you know, even with that matchup against a bad Chicago run defense, defenders still made contact with Ashton Genty behind the line of scrimmage, unlike 70% of his runs last week. And now the Raiders are going to be without starting tackle Colton Miller, probably, probably their best offensive lineman. He's on IR now with an ankle injury. Like Genti is awesome. He's just, he's so hard to tackle with his amazing contact balance and all the little shakes and shimmies he gives you. But there's still going to be some rough days just because the Raiders offensive line is so shaky.

[Ryan Warmley]

We went kind of quick on that game. So let me take this opportunity to say that I meant to ask you guys about Thursday Night Football last night and totally forgot at the top of the show. So I do just want to quickly give you the opportunity to, to weigh in on that game. 26, 23 in overtime, 49ers. I mean, the game itself, you know, less relevant, but just from a fantasy perspective. You know, obviously like both passing games were really productive in this one. Matthew Stafford, 389 yards and three touchdowns, no picks. Mac Jones, despite dealing with, you know, the injury stuff, 342 yards, two touchdowns, no picks. Running games were pretty inefficient. Both running backs, you know, they combined to catch. The starting running backs combined to catch three touchdowns in this one to kind of, you know, help their day a lot as well. Kendrick Bourne, 10 catches, 142 yards. Puka and Devonte doing their usual stuff that's kind of the run through the of the box score with Debra. Were there any kind of major fantasy takeaways from Thursday Night Football you wanted to hit on?

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Good Lord. Can any Rams running back hold on to the fricking ball? Like, I mean Kyron drops the ball on turf, doesn't get it taken off the field. Blake Corum does it once and we don't. He. He gets shoved into the shadow realm. I don't know what Kyron has on Sean McVeigh. Like has he got like, you know, incriminating pictures of some sort? I don't know. But he could seem to do no wrong. I kind of curious, I'm curious if we see more of a backfill split because we've seen that kind of like in the works. But Kyron's past game role has been surprising over the last few weeks, especially last night. Tons of targets, lots of usage out of the backfield. I, I'll, I'll throw this back to you boys. Is Matthew stafford A top 12 quarterback or fringe moving forward? Because he's playing elite level football and he's got two alpha wide receivers.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

In fantasy, I mean in fantasy, borderline, if everyone, if there are no buys, they stay healthy. Yeah, I mean coming into this game, obviously he lit it up on Thursday Night Football, but coming into this game I think he was at like 269 passing yards a game and two and a half touchdown passes a game which I think he's tied and tied for the lead. League. League lead or was coming into last night's game and could be leading after this week. Yeah, I mean I think he's real. I, I do think he's sort of a fringe low end QB1, high end QB2. Just, we just know we're getting zero rushing upside. But the, the guy I want to talk about is like Mac Jones, like that was a heroic effort. I mean they were practically like dragging that guy off the field after some of those series and like, oh God, he's, he's done. And then he would come back out for the next series and be completing throws to Kendrick Bourne who like looked like a star last night. It was a fun game, an interesting game. And I wonder about Mac Jones like if, if there is a possibility that he could have like a Sam Darnold career arc where he's rejuvenated in free agencies. Like some, some team tries to do quarterback in the cheap and like gives Mac Jones a shot. Cause he's either like, he's either a bottom 10 starting quarterback somewhere or he's the best backup quarterback in the league, but like he can actually play a little bit. I don't think he's terrible. I don't think he's ever going to be a star. But like he showed last night, he can be functional.

[Ryan Warmley]

Weekly finishes for Matthew Stafford Deborah, to your point on him. QB20, QB19, QB14 the first three weeks, last two QB2 and then what we saw last night, which will be, you know, a very high finish. Obviously there's a full week to go, but he scored over 25 fantasy points so he will be, you know, quite high wherever he ends up this week. So 3 non QB 1 type weeks but 2 like top 5 at least probably you would think.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

And by the way, the Rams are the dream team for fantasy football because it's like you're starting Puka every week and he's a monster every week you're starting Devonte and he usually does well. You're starting Kyron every week. No matter what your beef with him is like, more often than not he puts up points and you know, then Stafford is absolutely playable.

[Ryan Warmley]

By the way, the Rams next week on extra rest get that Ravens defense, so you'll be wanting to rank them very highly going into week six.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

I'm sorry Worm, I'll go ahead and apologize right now. I'm sorry.

[Ryan Warmley]

No, honestly, like the pressure is off. Once Lamar is hurt, it's like, okay, this team's just bad. So like it's it almost becomes emotionally easier to to deal with. Let's go to Giants at Saints. Speaking of favorite teams, Dbro um Jackson Dart looked great in his first start, but he also lost his best weapon for the season when Malik Neighbors went down. So I'm curious both where Dart is ranked among quarterbacks for week five for you fits but also for rest of season.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Yeah. By the way, DBros boy Jackson Dart going against his team D Rose going to be dialed in.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

I hope he rubs it in their faces. Go ahead Vincey. I'll get to it in a second.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

I've got him QB15 this week in QB20 rest of season. Like the rushing numbers are going to be good and he is a really aggressive runner typically one read if it's not there he takes off the passing numbers. Especially with Malik Neighbors out will not be good this season.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

DBRA QB 11 for this week and I've got him QB 18 for the rest of the season. Like the rushing is definitively there. The passing is going to be up and down. Considering what matchups they have now, this one's a really good One for Jackson Dart. Saints have given up the six highest yards per attempt, third most passing touchdowns. I think last week too. Like what you could talk about like the defensive matchup for Jackson Dart, but also when your best receiving threat in your offense goes out in the middle of the game, your entire game plan, especially through the air, we know is based around Malik Neighbors. So when that happens in the middle of the game, it is just try to survive and do the best you can to either sit on the lead and lean on their defense and run the ball and get out of there with a win. So for this one, they've had a whole week to kind of prepare Darius Slayton last year without Malik Neighbors in the lineup. Dude, he got Malik Neighbors treatment. He got like a 29 target share. This is a really good matchup to sit here and feature him. And I'm not saying every week is going to be like that, but if you're going to, if you want Jackson Dart playing the best football he can, this is the type of matchup where you open up the passing game some and you allow the kid to learn on the job. I, I hope Jackson Dart just rubs it in their faces. I hope he makes them rue the day the fact that they passed on him, took Tyler Schuck, who is not starting for this team this week. Their second round pick is not starting for this team this week. I hope Jackson Dart rubs it in their faces that they did not draft him. I really, really, really do.

[Ryan Warmley]

They didn't need a starting quarterback. They have Spencer Rattler.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Oh, dude. I, I, whenever that happened, we were live on the draft coverage. Like, I, I just, I absolve myself of all Saints fandom until Loomis is gone. He is a buffoon. A I cannot stand ever. He's basically giving away all their picks for players that aren't even starting on the freaking team. Like, let's go sign Brandon Cooks. He's a nothing Burger. Let's go trade for Devon Bailey. He's not starting. Like it ridiculous.

[Ryan Warmley]

What do you think fits of Scatter Boo without Neighbors? Like, do you worry that things will kind of get condensed a bit in the passing game and it'll become harder for him to run or all right. Do you just think like he's good, he's going to get the volume? Like, don't overthink it.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Yeah, I mean you have to worry about that. It seemed like the Chargers were throwing some pretty heavy boxes at Scatterbo last week. He almost got into the end zone a couple of times though. There Was one. I think he got stood up by Derwin James at the goal line. Once there was another Charger defender, I forget who made a real nice. Like they had a play where they got Scatter Boo out wide and he just had one man to beat. But the guy made a really nice sort of diving low tackle on Scatter Boo and just got enough of him to knock him off his feet, man. Yeah, like, it will be pretty hard and he might not be super efficient. Like, I don't think he's averaging five yards of carry this season, but man, like, he is just such a war horse. You can just keep giving him the ball and that guy is just a tank.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Can we talk about the vibes for the Giants too with Dart and Scatter Boo? Like, their entire team dynamic and vibes felt totally different last week. Like they were feeding off the energy of these two guys. You could see, like I watched that entire game and it was so much fun to watch.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Now when is it going to happen for them on defense? Because, like it should be happening there with Abdul Carter and Kayvon Thibodeau and Brian Burns and Dexter Lawrence. Like, why is this defense not better?

[D. Ross (Debro)]

I don't know. We'll see.

[Ryan Warmley]

Let's go to Cowboys at Jets. By the way, just quick note because it got tweeted while we were recording this. Braylon Allen, according to Aaron Glenn, is expected to miss eight to 12 weeks. Surgery is still on the table per per Aaron Glenn.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

What? Why do you have a guy who is an important player in your offense returning kickoffs? Like, why, like put the, you know.

[Ryan Warmley]

Nobody, nobody will remember says this.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Use the cannon fodder on kickoffs.

[Ryan Warmley]

Nobody will remember this Fitz. But Dante Dimas, the year he was like basically poised to be a first team all Big Ten wide receiver. Maryland, I was at Maryland Iowa game is this big night game, you know, really exciting. Maryland's, you know, back on the map or whatever. And Dante Dimas was returning kickoffs. For some reason, he's not even that type of player. He was. He's like a Mike Evans type player. Like big, like, you know, at the college level. Like big body, you know, and he was returning kickoffs and he was never the same. His career was basically ruined because his knee was destroyed on a kickoff return. I have thought about that every time I see good players returning, returning kicks ever since.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Yeah, if you want to do it in a playoff game, okay. But like in an early season game, I just don't understand. And it's not like Braylon out like Braylon Allen never returned kickoffs in college.

[Ryan Warmley]

I do not understand. I do not see the upside. It drives me nuts when I see it happen.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Stupid.

[Ryan Warmley]

So. So in this game, I thought this was an interesting one because I sat down trying to think of a good question for it, and I felt like most players, especially with, you know, Braylon Allen out, most players feel pretty straightforward in this matchup, like, where. Where they rank is kind of obvious. So I wanted to kind of put it on you guys and ask who is the toughest player in this game for each of you to rank. And Debra, we can go with you first.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

I feel like I'm over the moon with this guy and maybe I'm just drinking too much of my own Kool Aid here. And Fitz, he's gonna have to like, pull me back a little bit because I've been talking about him in the waiver water article over the last like two to three freaking weeks. But after the breakout week that we saw from Mason Taylor, I've got him as a top 12 tight end this week and he's the guy where it's like versus ECR. I'm like, ECR as him as a mid tight end two tight end, 21.

[Ryan Warmley]

In ECR by the way.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Yeah, man, but look like last week he got a 25.9% target share. He had a 33% first read share. If the ball is not going to freaking Garrett Wilson, it's going to Mason Taylor. And I know he's limited in practice this week and stuff, but I think the usage of the last two weeks shows us that he's getting healthier. And I, I said in the off season they need a second pass game weapon to step up. There's not a ton of volume in this passing attack, but there's enough to support two weapons. And I look at the matchup like, I think Mason Taylor should be a tight end one this week. But ECR says I am totally wrong. Fitzy, Am I crazy?

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

I've got him ranked right at ecr. I should probably move him up to like tight end 17 ahead of the two Browns tight ends who I have no interest in using. Again, it was. The usage has been encouraging. He looked good in that game against the Dolphins. Like, he did not look like a rookie. So I'm open to it. I mean, I always, I don't know if I can trust any pass catcher in that offense other than Garrett Wilson, just because I don't trust Justin Fields.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

I guess my thing here is do you trust Travis Kelsey more? Do you trust Mark Andrews more like do you trust TJ Hawkinson more? Do we trust any of those other guys like more than a guy that's in a consolidated passing attack versus veterans that are not getting targets, have backup quarterbacks and we're worried about matchups.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Patrick Mahomes is a backup quarterback. You mentioned Travis. I still think he's a little bit better.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

He's more of in the. In the washed and old and can't do anything with this.

[Ryan Warmley]

No, but I would rather start Mason Taylor than Mark Andrews to that point about, you know, I mean seriously Mark.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Andrews with Cooper Rush. Like we feel better about that. Yeah.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Yeah. I mean track record to some extent. Like I I agree on maybe ranking Mason Taylor too long. I'm just. I guess I need a little bit. Just a little bit longer in audition. You need.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

You needed another game with 26 target share, huh Fitzy?

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Yeah, that wouldn't be bad.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

I mean I'm just, I'm just saying like I'm throwing it out there because I'm like his usage, the matchup, the high total, it all kind of lines up for me. But again, maybe I'm drinking too much of my own Kool Aid.

[Ryan Warmley]

So Fitz, who's the player that's toughest for you to rank in this game?

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

I mean for me it was both quarterbacks. Like it's just, it's really uncomfortable to rank Justin Fields as a top five qb and I have him QB five knowing what he looks like as a passer on his bad days again, week two against the Bills, Fields had three completions for 27 yards. Got knocked out of that game with a concussion, but he wasn't knocked out until early in the fourth quarter. Like he had three completions in three quarters. But obviously like Fields is wildly productive as A runner, averages 59 rushing yards, has three touchdown runs in three games. And the Cowboys pass defense is terrible. They're giving up 309 passing yards a game and like 9.2 yards per attempt. So great setup for sure for Fields. And then like Dak Prescott was just incredible against the Packers. That had to be one of the best games of Dax career. He was just so good in that game. The inclination is to rank him highly after such a good game. And he did it without CD Lamb. But the fact is he still doesn't have CD Lamb. George Pickens is going to be seeing a lot of sauce. Gardner and the Cowboys are missing a bunch of starting offensive linemen. Cooper, BB And Tyler Booker are out and Tyler Guyton has a concussion. I'm not sure whether he's playing. So I have Dak QB 12 and I'm just, I'm not sure whether that's too high, too low or just right.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Can I make you feel a little bit better about Dak Fitzy?

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Sure.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

So the jets have the third lowest pressure rate, so that's going to help the Dallas offensive line. They're playing more too high over the last two weeks, less man coverage. So Sauce is not going to shadow George Pickens and if he's not shadowing George Pickens, George Pickens is going to get plenty of Brandon Stevens. And Worm has seen Stevens played.

[Ryan Warmley]

He knows how we've all seen Stevens at this point.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

So they're going. I think Dax gonna have a good game.

[Ryan Warmley]

I think, I think Cooper Rush could have a good passing day against Brandon Stevens. I, I actually, I actually like Stevens a lot as like a person like he was. I always really like respected him and so I don't want to like be too mean to him. But yeah, he's, he's not been very good the last couple years. I already, I already mentioned this, but let Autopilot manage your fantasy football lineup automatically so you never have to worry about last minute changes. Auto swap inactive players and ensure your lineup is always optimized even when you can't be online. Take control with the flexibility to approve lineup changes via email or let Autopilot handle everything. Stay ahead with my Playbook Autopilot available now for Fantasy Pros Premium [e-mail] MyPlayBook or on the Fantasy Pros app. Try Premium for free right now by claiming your three day trial of fantasy pros [e-mail] premium. All right, next game here guys. Broncos at Eagles. By the way, the early slate is so bad this week. This is the only game that has two teams that have more than a single win this season in that early afternoon slate on Sunday. It is, it is a lot of like oh and three verse one and three. One, two and one verse one and three. It's. It's really ugly. So hopefully Broncos at Eagles can save us a bit here. Fitz, I'll start with you. Was last week the RJ Harvey coming out party or will he fall back to earth against Philadelphia? And yes, I am being mean to Debro by not letting him go first on his boy.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Rj, I love the fact that you're making me wait. I love this.

[Ryan Warmley]

I did it for Jackson too, right? I think, I think I said for it's the first baby.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

I love it's Going to be like a rodeo bowl in the chute just waiting to get out and raise all. I'm cautiously optimistic. So Harvey played a season high 33 snaps. Snapchair was up to 40.7% and I think that's closer to the usage we were hoping for with RJ Harvey. We knew he wasn't going to be a workhorse like Sean Payton. Always uses more than one running back. But as much as the Sean Payton offense runs through his running backs and as much as they get used in the passing game under Sean Payton, like there are typically two fantasy relevant backs in a Sean Payton offense, I think Harvey has reached the point of fantasy relevance now and the passing game usage was really encouraging like four catches for 50 yards and a touchdown on five targets. So yeah, I think we can start Harvey now.

[Ryan Warmley]

Zebra.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Yeah, I think it's the breakout game was real for Everybody out there. RB12 on the week last week. I'm confidently starting him this week and I just want to throw out a bunch of stats here. Philadelphia has quietly been not great against as good as their defense is, they're not great against defending the run. They've given up the 12th most rushing arts per game. They have the lowest stuff rate. And if you want to get more granular about this, Denver has more been more of a gap scheme run game so far this year. Philly against gap runs, 11th highest yards per carry, third highest success rate. And if Harvey's not going to get it done on the ground, I think he will. I have J.K. dobbins and Harvey both as top 24 backs. I think Denver's offense should go through their ground game this week and avoid the past defense. And I think, I mean Sean Payton, we know that he's a smart play designer. I think that's what's going to happen. Harvey can also get it done through the air and you know, kind of fits you had laid out. I mean look this backfield was Dobbins and Harvey last week Harvey had a 25 route share, 12 target share. Philly through the air versus running backs they've given up the 10th most receiving yards and the 4th highest yards per reception. So I think Harvey can lead the way as far as like you know, check downs and screens and stuff to make life a little bit easier for Bo Nix this week. So Harvey confidently starting him.

[Ryan Warmley]

I want to ask a second question on this game. I want to ask about Saquon Barkley quickly. Just like he hasn't been a disastrous fantasy pick thanks to the touchdown, but he has been really inefficient with his touches and he has not had a 20 point fantasy game yet in half. PPR scoring despite actually catching passes and scoring touchdowns, which are two very valuable things. So I'm just curious in general, like what your concern level is and specifically this week against a good Broncos defense in general.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Fitz low to moderate. The offensive line hasn't been as good for the Eagles. There have been some injury issues up front. I don't know if it's possible for Saquon to be as good or as efficient a runner as he was in 2024, but on the bright side, they are using Saquon in the passing game more than they did last year. He already has 14 catches, which puts him on pace for about 60 catches, which would be the second highest reception total of his career.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

DBRA My concern level's not high for Saquon because we know the volume is going to be there. But. But kind of like how Fitzy alluded here. I mean their offensive line covered up a lot of sins for Saquon last year. Like he was awesome for fantasy and stuff like that, but he was not amazing as a tackle breaker. Like he wasn't generating all of this stuff on his by himself. He had 3.5 yards before contact per attempt last year. That is an astronomical number. Now that's fallen back to earth. The only 1.23 this year, which has really hurt Saquon in the sense that he's not breaking tackles. Guys amongst 43 qualifying backs, Saquon Barkley, 9th lowest explosive run rate, 3rd lowest missed tackles, force per attempt. Only Chuba Hubbard and Kareem Hunt are worse than Saquon Barkley and the 10th lowest yards after contact per attempt. So based off of his role in this offense, I'm not worried about him and the touchdown equity that he brings, but saying that I, I think there's gonna be a bounce back that better days are coming. Like all that kind of stuff for Saquon. No, I, I don't see that.

[Ryan Warmley]

Let's get to this Sunday late afternoon slate. Late afternoon Eastern time Titans at Cardinals. This one I'll keep really simple here. Dbro, are you starting? Amari D. Mercado, Michael Carter, Neither or both this week?

[D. Ross (Debro)]

I think both are flex worthy and I know that this has been the talking point of, of all of Twitter this week. It's been like, oh, which side are you taking? You take it. Michael Carter, Amari D. Mercado. You can't like both. You got to pick a side. Which one you picking up off of waivers and I, I ended up with Michael Carter in a lot of places because everybody went to the D. Mercado side. So Michael Carter you could get for basically free off of waivers. And I think the way that this backfield is going to work out this week is I think Michael Carter is going to be. If you look at the, the early season usage of James Conner and Trey Benson, James Connor was your early down guy. He got a little bit of the passing down work. Trey Benson worked in the passing down and sprinkled in on early downs. I think Michael Carter is your James Connor and I think Trey Ben Amari, D. Mercado is your Trey Benson. I think both guys are going to have relevance this week. I wouldn't be surprised if both of these guys scored if I got to pick one. I pick Michael Carter because I think he's going to own the early down role and what we saw from him last year, week 17 through 18, he had 18 touches per game, 70 total yards. He wasn't truly efficient. But RB11 and RB20 in those weeks. So really like, look, if you need a flex either one of them, I can make you a case for both of them. If I got to pick one, it's.

[Ryan Warmley]

Michael Carter, Fitz, DeMarcusato Carter, neither or both.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

I agree with DBro. I think they're both flex worthy. I've got Carter ranked RB28 and D. Mercado RB29. And I know it seems counterintuitive to think, think that, you know, when DeMarcado was active last week, the number two running back and Michael Carter was not active. To think that Michael Carter would be more valuable than the guy who was already ahead of him on the depth chart. But I do think there's a good chance that the Cardinals just leave D. Mercado in the passing down role and move Carter into the early down role. And Carter kind of tipped his hand, tipped the team's hand. He was doing a locker room interview and they were asking him about, you know, going from the practice squad to being probably a prominent part of the offense this week. And he said, yeah, it's, it's a lot. You go from the practice squad one week to starting the next like he said he was starting, basically. So I kind of think that's how they're going to play it. But I do think they both profile as like playable options against a Titans run defense. That this has just been a great matchup, like fourth most fantasy points to running backs, third most rushing yards a league high six touchdown runs against the Titans.

[Ryan Warmley]

Similar question on our next game. Buccaneers at Seahawks. Another backfield with, you know, the main, you know, characters hurt. Bucky Irving not playing for the Buccaneers. So how are you approaching the Tampa Bay backfield? Fitz, I'll start with you this time with Irving, you know, hurt.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Well, the matchup is less appealing than it is for the Cardinals running backs. I mean, the Seahawks have allowed the seventh fewest rushing yards to running backs and giving up just 3.3 yards per carry to running backs, their third, third in DVOA against the run. White obviously has the appeal as a pass catcher, but less so as a runner. Like career average of 3.9 yards per carry. I think that kind of yards per carry, not a great stat, but I think it's a pretty good reflection on Rashad White in this case. And then I've got Sean Tucker, running back 38, just kind of cautious. Maybe he has a much bigger role than we expect. Which would be fun to see because, like, I think a lot of people have been ready for Sean Tucker to break out and do something more. Like, I mean, Bucky's great, like whoever's behind Bucky when healthy. Like, no one's leapfrogging Bucky on the depth chart, but I think people want to see Sean Tucker and maybe they get the chance this week.

[Ryan Warmley]

Debra, what do you think about this backfield this week?

[D. Ross (Debro)]

I think it's going to be mostly Rashad White. I think Tucker's going to, I think he's going to factor in for like 30, 35% maybe of the snaps and stuff like that. That might be a little bit high. I think Rashad White I am going to have as a top 24 back just based off of volume. I think he's going to get the high leverage touches. And the other part about it is if one of these guys is playing in the passing game, I think that's where Rashad White can have a good day. Seattle's giving up the most receiving yards to backs, so I think he can get, especially with the Buccaneers. How banged up are they in the passing game? Like, I mean, Mike Evans not going to play like outside of a Mecca. Buka, who's. Who is Baker Mayfield throwing the ball to? So I think Rashad White can get their own volume, even though the matchup, like Fitzy pointed out, is pretty bad.

[Ryan Warmley]

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[D. Ross (Debro)]

I think we are. I mean, Jake Browning, I think you're not playing him outside of Super Flex formats. But T. Higgins I think goes back into like wide receiver three territory. The the Lions secondary is banged up. They've given up the 10th most PPR points per target departmental wide receiver. So he gets flex relevance back. The player that I'm not going to go back to and I'm willing to start like, you know, pick your injury running back du jour this week. Amari Di Mercado, Michael Carter, Rico Dowdle. Because Chuba Hubbard's not going to play. I'm probably starting a lot of those guys over Chase Brown this week. Like, he gets all the volume. He's not going to go anywhere. Detroit's rush defense has been really good, so I think like you can go back to T. Higgins. Obviously you're playing Jamar Chase. If you got Jamar Chase, Jake Browning and Super Flex formats, Chase Brown is just this offensive line's not going to do him any favors. And Detroit's run defense has been really good. I'm probably going to go with one of the guys, the flavors of the week over Chase Brown. Fitzy, tell me I'm wrong.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

I've got like, I've Got Chase Brown, RB23. Oh, he's at least getting volume, man. He's averaging 17.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

He's not doing anything with it, dude.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

I know, but like he's catching passes. He's. I'm. I'm following the volume, man. And even there it's like running back 24, 23. Excuse me, low end RB2 in a in a week where four teams are on by. So I don't think I'm going completely overboard there. I'm with you on not benching Jamar Chase. And some people think that's insane. Some people really want to bench him and think that sticking with him is like the band playing on the deck of that Titanic as it's going down. So I know it's been bleak for Chase the last couple of weeks.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Well, he insert pain last week. Right.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

People start handing.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

They should have known that that down game was coming.

[Ryan Warmley]

I think both sides have a good point on Chase in general. Like, in general. I do think having a stud player whose circumstances have changed but is still healthy is sometimes the worst thing you can have in fantasy because you feel like you cannot justify sitting a player like Jamar Chase. He's number one overall pick, probably in your league, yet he. If he continues to throw goose egg after goose egg, like, they will just drag you down more so than like, if he was injured. Not that you want a guy to get hurt, but if he was injured or, okay, that's easy. Put them on ir, pick up somebody else, and you're getting points elsewhere. Having said that, I do think like, like Jake Browning historically is better at home, which, where he is here. Detroit's defense is not the same as Minnesota and Denver. Like, I would try again. There will come a point where it gets to be like, man, like, you are just kind of on the Titanic. Right, Fitz? I think that's. That's an apt metaphor at a certain point. I don't think we're there yet just because there was two really tough matchups.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Well, can we also. I mean, I know we're all prisoner of the moment here. We also all still remember him versus Jacksonville, too. And Chase went off with Browning under center and the matchup wasn't nearly as bad. Like, we. We're all old enough to remember that, too. For everybody that wants to grab the shovel and just bury Jamar Chase, that.

[Ryan Warmley]

Was a game at home where Browning.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Is better and he still has 10 catches over the last two weeks. They're at least trying to get him the ball.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Yeah.

[Ryan Warmley]

Yeah, well.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

And you know, Jamar Chase, like, if he's not going to get the ball, he's going to get out there. And not the cryptic tweets of AJ Brown, but he's going to chirp about it.

[Ryan Warmley]

He also.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Where do we have.

[Ryan Warmley]

You can go ahead.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

I was just gonna ask. Where do we have T. Higgins ranked? I'm wide receiver 33.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

I think I'm right around you. I've got a wide receiver, 31, Fitzy. So we're holding hands here. Where do you have Chase Ranked this week?

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Nine.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Same. Exact same.

[Ryan Warmley]

Yeah, I.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

And I think I need to move him up, to be honest.

[Ryan Warmley]

Chase is also the type of player that like, you don't need a great quarterback. Like if he just gets him the ball and there's any amount of space, like he can take it to the house.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

So.

[Ryan Warmley]

Yep, for sure. Yeah. I have a funny story on Higgins, by the way. So a good friend of mine who does not really paid that close attention to fantasy, but like he's in like a, you know, a league with his, his family and everything. He like, you know, asked me for some help with the draft and for making some of his picks and everything. He called me last night and he was like, hey, I need to pick up a tight end because graphs on by who should I drop? And he has really strong receivers and he was listing just the guys on his bench and one of the last guys he mentioned was Higgins. He was only reading last names and because I was thinking bench and he was, I just assumed he meant James. And I was like, well, your other guys are pretty good. So like I, yeah, I would drop Higgins. And then he like not even four seconds later, I go, well, wait, wait, did you. Was it T. Higgins or Jaden Higgins? And he goes, well, I already dropped him. I was like, what you did? Right away it was T. Higgins. He dropped T. Higgins to pick up a Harold Fannin Jr. So I was like, I was like, you could try messaging the commissioner, see if you can get him to undo it. I don't know if he will or not. It's kind of your own stupidity. So shouts to my friend David for making that hilarious mistake.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Shout out to David. And shout out to using first names too. When you talk about players.

[Ryan Warmley]

He didn't realize that there was multiple Higgins receivers. I guess so. All right, let's go to Commanders at Chargers last game in the late afternoon slate. Dbro, how much are you downgrading Chargers players with Joe Alt now joining Rashawn Slater on the shelf, at least for the time being. Two of the best tackles in football are now out. Not a very good offensive line. What are you doing with the Chargers in general as a result of this?

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Not much this week. Now again, I think this is going to be week to week matchup sensitive based off of the the matchup. But the Commanders had the ninth lowest pressure rate, so I'm not that worried. And, and, and looking at their run defense like They've allowed the 9th highest missed tackle rate, their 14th and explosive run rate. I think even behind like A downgraded offensive line. The Chargers can still have a lot of success this week.

[Ryan Warmley]

Fitz.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

I think I'm a smidge below consensus on all the Chargers this week except for lad McConkey who I'm stubbornly keeping faith with.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

I think this is Lad week. Fitzy to your point. I think it's lab.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Yeah. They don't. The Commanders get beaten up pretty good by slot receivers.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Lot of problems defending the slot.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Yeah. Mike, have they been playing Mike Sandra still back in the slot now. Isn't he hurt?

[D. Ross (Debro)]

They have, yeah. I think it's Lad week. I think the coverage matchup and plus dude, if we. If anybody watched that game last week, Lad is pressing so much. Like you could tell it's in his head. Like he wants to like a lot of drops and stuff like that. He didn't look the same. Like this is a get right. Like you got to infuse this guy with some good vibes because if not like you're going to need him the rest of the season.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

But anyway, I don't think the Chargers offense completely breaks. But yeah, not having your two cornerstone offensive tackles, Joe Alt and Rashawn Slater, who's out for the season. Right. Not a good thing. The Chargers wanted ever Sean Slater and Joe Alt as their offensive tackles and in week five it's going to be Trey Pipkins and Austin deculis. Geez, I might have to. I'm going to. I didn't even look at the Chargers a little more.

[Ryan Warmley]

I was just like it's not.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Yeah, I had a. I don't even. I watch a lot of SEC football. I don't remember Deculus at all from lsu.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

He was like a first time I've heard that name.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Sixth round pick in 2022, I want to say. So yeah, that's. Maybe I have to drop the Chargers a bit more in the rankings.

[Ryan Warmley]

D RO I want to quickly ask you a question that we talked about on the Thursday show to you know, reference another person in my life who asked me a question. My brother in law was asking me about this dynasty trade and Fitz felt like it was kind of a fair value but he didn't think he would actually pull the trigger on it. I'm curious what you think DBRO because it's a lot of players that you really like. It's giving away Pukinakua and this is like a 12 team start, three wide receivers, super flex dynasty league. Giving away Pukinakua, getting Quentin Johnston and Drake London.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Oh good lord.

[Ryan Warmley]

So the question is how much do you really believe in this breakout being real for Quentin Johnson? Is it enough to bridge the gap between two very good receivers? But obviously Puka would be higher than London.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Okay.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Pretty fair, isn't it?

[D. Ross (Debro)]

I think it's really fair. I think that name value hasn't caught up to actual production with Quentin Johnston. I think you can get added more to the qj side like a 27 or 28 second or something like that. But like I think it's fair. I think it's definitely fair because I think I. Dude, Fitzy, didn't I say this in week one on the waiver wire show? I said the QJ breakout is real. The numbers say it is real and it has been real. The guy is a wide receiver one like he, his breakout is definitively real. So I, I think it's a fair return. Like if you want to do that now you're giving away the wide receiver one in all of fantasy this year. He's probably going to go on to have a Cooper cup type of record breaking season and he's going to be a difference maker and league winner and we get down to the end of the season and we get the percentage of teams that went to championships and playoffs. So Puka stays healthy, he's gonna be at the top of that board. He's going to be. So knowing that you're giving that type of player away, go ahead. What I told, I think trade's fair.

[Ryan Warmley]

What I told my brother in law was I wouldn't make it if you guaranteed me health. But there is a history of Puka getting banged up and Stafford's back. So that's why I would consider. I was like, I don't know if I could actually bring myself to get rid of Puka right now but if I were to, that would be the justification because it's a fair deal and you're getting out from not just him but also Stafford's health. So that was.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Can we all say definitively real fast before we move on. Is QJ their unquestioned wide receiver one moving forward? I think he is Fitzy.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

I'm not ready.

[Ryan Warmley]

I can't say unquestioned with, with lad. We'll, we'll see what happens.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

I mean he's just, he's really good but like so is Lad. I don't, I haven't stopped believing in Lad.

[Ryan Warmley]

Okay, two games left. We'll go quick on these Patriots at Bills Sunday Night Football. I don't really have a good question for this game. I'm just super excited to watch this actually I just think it's gonna be an aw awesome matchup. So just give me a final score prediction from you guys and then also one player that you disagree with consensus on this week in this game for what it's worth. Hard Rock BET has Bills minus eight. This was as of when I put the sheet together. I'm not sure if this is moved at all. Hard Rock bet has bills minus 8. Total set at 49. So again D bro, give me final score prediction and a player you disagree.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

With consensus on 2824 bills.

[Ryan Warmley]

And I.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Think my why is Travion Henderson ranked over Ramandre Stevenson? Like what. What are people seeing that that I'm not seeing? Because Travion Henderson, for all of our hope and hype and all that kind of stuff and Ramandre keeps fumbling and he's not playing over Ramandre for all we talked about last week and he oh Travion's going through him before positional drills and I was even bought into that and stuff. And Trayon's not breaking tackles that Ramandre Stevenson is still not ranked above Treveon Henderson and he's outside the top 24 running backs although he's playing a team that cannot stop the run and we know he's going to be a central figure of the rushing attack outside of Drake May. So I I think the Bills win this game. I think it's honestly, maybe I'm I'm going a little bit too low on the score here. I think it's gonna be a shootout and I think Ramandre should be ranked highly this week. As long as he doesn't fumble, he's gonna have a really good game.

[Ryan Warmley]

So Debra has Patriots covering and the over here on the total and is disag with Ramon Dre Fitz. What do you have?

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

3,127 bills. I think the Patriots give the Bills a really good game. Drake May goes toe to toe with Josh Allen. Stefan Diggs plays well in his return to Buffalo revenge game and all that, but in the end Josh Allen pulls it out for Buffalo. So I like the Patriots cover and the game to go over the total. I've got Drake May QB3 this week so I'm definitely against and I I think part of it is that Josh Allen is going to push Drake May into a shootout and so Drake May is going to have to drop back quite a bit and throw a lot of passes and do some scrambling and he's going to put up points. Debro I am one of the fools who has Trayvon Henderson ranked one spot ahead of Ramon Ray Stevenson. I do expect Ramon Dre to get more touches, but I do think that Travion Henderson is always going to do more on a per touch basis than Ramandre Stevenson. I'm also factoring in the pot the likelihood that Ramon Ray Stevenson is one fumble away from fumble jail and not getting out. And also like Henderson has that big playability and he's going up against the Bills defense. That's. Wait, we don't think Travyon Henderson is a good running back. Are you serious?

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Hold up, hold up, hold up. I loved him as a prospect, but I know we have a small sample size here, but tell me these numbers don't concern you at least a little bit.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

No. 4 games don't, don't like you don't even need to list the numbers in four games in with the number of touches he's had in four games. Nothing you can throw at me with numbers is going to like change the way I fundamentally feel about Ramon Travion Henderson and what he was as a prospect. Like no. A four game sample of like timeshare slash backup work.

[Ryan Warmley]

No, like 39 this season.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

The, the fact that he's playing in 29 of the snaps. The fact that he's not playing in a bunch of the routes. He's got 27 route share. But again like I, I can't rank him above from Andre.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

One fumble from a guy who's had chronic fumbling problems away from a much bigger and against a really in a good matchup against a Bills run d that ranks like 30th in DVOA and has given up like five and a half carry yards per carry, hasn't Trayvon?

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Like why didn't Trayvon break out versus the Panthers then? That was a really good, I mean it wasn't that a legendary matchup too? Did Travion go wild in that game either? I'm asking.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

It's coming man.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

I, I, dude, I hope it is. I, I hope it is. I, like I don't want to be a Trayvon hater. Like I loved him as a prospect. I, I still have a lot of faith in the kid. I'm just throwing out there. The numbers so far are concerning based off of what we've seen and I know it's a limited sample. I, I, I know that too early.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

To all those Trayon Henderson stakeholders out there, Debra wants you to cut him. I recommend not.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

I said that.

[Ryan Warmley]

So much for going quickly on these last two games by the way, Trayvon Henderson RB 25 Randre RB 26 and half PPR ECR so back to back there Monday Night Football Chiefs at Jaguars the Chiefs offense looked the best, most explosive it has in years against Baltimore. There's obviously a degree of like both elements being true here, but would you give more credit to Xavier Worthy's return to the lineup opening things up or just the abysmal injured Ravens defense that they were facing and kind of, you know, in answering that question, what do you expect for a follow up performance in Jacksonville? Fitz, I'll start with you.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

Well, the Ravens defense has been bad, no question. I do think Worthy makes a difference. They needed a pass catcher who could make explosive plays and Worthy speed absolutely helps create space for his teammates. I can't wait to see what this Kansas City offense looks like when Rasheed Rice comes back in a couple of weeks. Because the only time we've seen Rice and Worthy play together it was early last year and Worthy was still a little lost. Like he's a totally different guy now. I'm not sure what we'll see from the Chiefs this week. I think it largely depends on how well the Chiefs can block Josh Hines Allen who has been an absolute play wrecker for the Jaguars this season. Like stealth defensive player of the year candidates. So they've got to handle him. And other than that though, the Jaguars defense, the numbers say it's been really good this year but it's also been very turnover driven. So we'll see. Other than Josh Hines Allen, like I'm excited about the Chiefs offense, cautiously optimistic about it this week.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

Debra I think a lot of that was the Ravens and it's not all of it. They looked like a better offense. I think Worthy gave them a big boost and opened up things for them. But it does have to get brought up that 62% of Patrick Mahomes yards came after the catch. He had the 8th lowest adote Baltimore has not been a good tackling team. They have the 11th most missed tackles this year. Jacksonville, that's not a problem. Their defense is playing out of their minds right now. Like I think this game is going to be a lot uglier than people might think, especially Chiefs fans considering how the context of the Jacksonville defense they have the third fewest missed tackles, they've allowed the lowest pass rating and they lead the NFL. Interceptions and I'll throw out one name since Bitsy's given some shine to Jacksonville players. Devin Lloyd is playing some really dude, he is so freaking good. He has three picks right now. He's forced to fumble. He's, he's all like, dude, he's, he's all over the freaking field. His playing time's gone up every single week. I think this game's going to be nasty. I'm not telling you Jacksonville is winning this game. But, but I, I think the under is more in play in this game and I think the, the Chiefs offense comes back to earth a little bit. Although I do think they're going to have to pass the ball a lot because they're not gonna be able to run the ball versus them.

[Ryan Warmley]

I want to correct something I said earlier about thinking that Kyle Hamilton probably would play. He is not practicing again today on Friday. So I don't, I don't know what the line's gonna end up at in that game, but please bet on the Texans. I, I would encourage everybody. I told you all to bet on the Chiefs last week and you two scoffed at me. So I'm going to do it again, please.

[D. Ross (Debro)]

I did. I had Ravens love and hope and that went.

[Ryan Warmley]

Please go back on the Texans this week. All right, we'll go ahead and wrap things up there for Debro and Fitz. I'm Ryan Warmley. Thanks everybody for tuning in. Good luck in week five. We'll see you again next time. Actually, I will not be here next week. Just so everybody knows, that'll be you two with a fill in host having to come up with the questions yourself. So we'll see how you guys like it.

[Pat Fitzmaurice (Fitzy)]

For you two.

[Ryan Warmley]

Next week I will be out, you know, for, for just a couple days but for next week, for next time, I'm Ryan, they're Debo and Fitz. We'll see you. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football podcast. If you love the show, the best free way to support us is by leaving a positive review on apple [e-mail] review or on Spotify. Follow us on X Instagram and tick tock at Fantasy Pros and subscribe to our YouTube [e-mail] Manas Pros.

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[D. Ross (Debro)]

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[D. Ross (Debro)]

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