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What's up friendos and welcome into Fantasy Pros. This is the extra point. We're going for two with Welsh and Ericsson. We're in the house with an studio audience or a discord audience if you want to call it like that. Some of our best friends that have hands raised, it's a very class orientation style. Everybody is being very appropriate raising their hands. We'll go one at a time but we're going to bring you guys up. We're not going to just read your questions. You guys are going to have to come up and speak to us. Whatever it is that is not about Thursday Night Football. We are going to be talking to with our audience. Lots of start and sit stuff Erickson A lot of the news has been rolling out through the week. The biggest piece of news today we found out Joe Mixon will not be returning this season. So wheels up to Woody Marks and we still wait a few more critical injury pieces but how are we doing buddy?
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Doing good. Thanksgiving is next week. Kind of hitting that final leg of the race, the final stretch. Three weeks left of the regular season and then the fantasy football playoffs are right around the corner. So look, I know that this is the time of year where we start to kind of overthink things. We start to dive into kicker matchups when we haven't been doing it at all this season. Don't change the process now. Continue to do what you're doing. You're in a position to make the playoffs or have a number one seed because you're doing the right things. You're listening to the shows, you're making the start sit right decisions. You're using the tools. Just continue to trust the process and you'll be fine.
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Trust the process. Get it done. Playoffs are almost here and we're ready to roll with you guys. You guys want to make sure that you are hanging out with us in the future. You can do that right here on the discord fantasypros.com chat 2:00pm Eastern every Thursday that's where Erickson and I are, right here with our audience. So if you're listening on the podcast, the plus is everybody that is in here gets to hear it roughly a day before and ask their questions. You can do the same. It's not even a premium feature, so you can sign up, get. I think you just have to have like a free fantasy pros account. You can sign up on the Discord. Jump in here. You want to get premium, you can do. So there's other great channels, ama's. You want to. Absolutely. I wish we could just get like a thousand more premium members and then they all just flood Fitzy's Discord. Like Fitzy's Discord channel. AMA channel.
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It's a beast.
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And it would be. It would be just spectacular if he was just like, what happened? Just flood him with it. But you can talk to Fitzy with Boggs the third Tuesday of each month and Worm and Fitz on the first Tuesday of each month as they also do shows just like this. Let's roll it out. Let's get to the people. First person he was in the channel before either one of Erickson or myself were here. He is the great and powerful Chinser. Chinger's in the house with the first one. What's up, Hollow Knight?
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What's up? I got three questions. First is directed to our 49ers resident expert, Welsh. For some reason, I have Pearsall and Juwan Jennings on the same team. Don't ask me why. I assume we're still rolling it with Juwan Jennings since he's Purdy's guy and Pearsall is still probably playing a little hurt.
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Yeah, I have them both in the, like, mid to late 20 ranks. So they're like wide receiver threes. Like, like I said before, Jennings doesn't look explosive to me. He's. If he can get out the route, Purdy's going to throw him four or five passes. There's some touchdown equity. I don't know what the hell happened with Pierasaw last week. He played lots of routes, did not get the ball. It's a. It's a good. It's a good ish matchup this week. I personally am putting Pierasol slightly over Jennings, but I think Jennings is the safety net play. And I might be eating my words, but that's my thought. Erickson, any quick thoughts on Jennings vs. Piersol? Do you agree that they're both like, you know, wide receiver 2ish dudes or, I'm sorry, wide receiver threes? Because outside the top 24. I said that incorrectly. I have them as like mid to high wide receiver.
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Threes. Yeah, I think that that's in the right range. I think that because they both play on Monday night, you get an idea of what you need. So usually I'm always like, I want upside, don't care about floor. But if you're going into your Monday night matchup, you need five points. Just play Jennings, right?
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Yeah, yeah, exactly. Safety net.
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And you don't have to worry about. Okay. Because eventually I think we'll see kind of like Piercel retake that number one role. And I understand, like, you want to try to capture that before Piercel has, like, what he was doing in the start of the year. I kind of hope it comes where, like, he has a good game and Jennings has a good game. So you, you still play Jennings, but then you feel good about. Okay, well, next week I'm going to play Piercel because right now, like, I know you like Piercel. I'm not. Are you like super confident, like really bullish on Pearsall over Jennings? Or is it like, not at all? If I'm not. If I'm not bullish, it's like I'll just play the guy that's been the target leader over the last month. Brady likes Jennings and I kind of want Pierce hall to do a little bit more than last week before. I. Hey, I feel really confident about starting him. So, yeah, I would just play Jennings.
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All right, what else you got? What else you got?
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All right, I have Drake, London, and Penix is deceased. And Kirk Cousins looks like he's deceased. I'm. This. This leg doesn't have a trade deadline, so I'm kind of wondering, like, should I just hold? Because he's been so good, but I don't know what the volume's gonna look like with Kirk if you can't even throw him the ball. Like, what do we want to do with London?
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London? Oh, yeah. You hold, man. You're not gonna. What, are you gonna cut him? You said the trade deadline's gone. He's not.
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No, this league doesn't have a trade deadline, so I could kind of hold longer than usual and trade before the playoffs.
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I don't know. I tend to think regardless of Cousins, I'm probably holding. I don't think anyone's going to give you the right equity on London, but I don't know, you might feel different, Erickson. You might. There might be like a mid wide receiver too. I mean, would you take Pierce off For him. Are you that worried?
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Why not? He is really good about 10.
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I might take Tetaroa, but London's gonna like he is when he's active, even with cousins. Like I still think he's the dude, but I, I don't hate Tedaro either.
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I think. You don't think there's any risk of shutting him down with his. This PCL thing? I don't, I don't think that doing receiver for receiver is the right way to do this deal. I think it's. You should probably trade him for a running back. Like that's what I would do. Like I would trade for Chase Brown. Do that. I've got Chase Brown in there like every league. You poisoned me in the preseason, Ericsson. Well then. Or just put him on the block, see what happens. I mean you gotta have someone to be interested in him. Is the TMAC manager interested in Drake London or is that just a name you were kind of like throwing out? He could be. I reached out to him earlier in the year and he said he's only going to get rid of TMAC for a wide receiver one, so. Okay, I see. It depends how he thinks. You could trade. You could trade Drake. I mean Drake London, you could trade to a team that might not make the playoffs. So that way if he does go off, he's not going to hurt you because he's on the team that is in the playoffs. So. Yeah. The other problem with this league is it's a keeper league. So it's hard unless someone has two decent players worth keeping, it's hard to get any upside. You can't trade London in a keeper if it's. I got two. I actually would, I actually would do the TMAC one. We don't know what this, this quarterback situation is not solved in Atlanta. I mean it's not great in Carolina either. But T Mac is younger and I, I think that TMac, from what he's done his rookie year, he looks like the next Drake London, which kind of like his, his rookie year is so it reminds me so much of Drake London's rookie year where some amazing target share cord rec plays really, really shoddy and that's really been Drake London's career up to this point. So if you can turn back the clock, get a guy that's three years younger that doesn't have a PCL injury and a quarterback coming off his like third torn acl. Yeah. So I would, I would. Yeah. If it's keeper league, I would do TMAC for London. Yeah.
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Did you have one last quick one.
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One last quick one. Oh, well, not that quick. I guess I'm the first seed and there's only one buy, so I'll probably get the buy. I wanted to see what you thought if anything needed to be done with the roster. If it looks like it'll be good. I know Erickson, you put out the playoff weeks matchups. And I have Judkins and Chase Brown, which I think is supposed to be a good match for the playoffs. But it's Josh Allen, Chase Brown, Judkins and Javante Williams. And then the receivers worth mentioning are London Amun Ra and Troy Franklin. And then my, my tight end is like a revolving door of Kincaid or Joanne Johnson.
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Trade a white running back for a wide receiver. Sounds like the play. Yeah, yeah, I put it out there. See if. Go look for a running back hungry team. Try to get some more depth. Because you said Troy Franklin was the third running back of not. That's not note. So that's what I would probably do.
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Yeah. All right, let's do it. Plum.
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Plum is in the house.
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What's up? Hey, boys. How you doing?
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Good, dude.
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Good, Good.
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So I'm in a PPR super flex. I have Caleb Williams and Baker as my quarterbacks.
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I'm a little worried about Baker's Sunday.
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Night matchup, so I'm thinking of maybe.
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Putting a skill guy at my super flex instead.
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My best options would be either Quinton or George Pickens.
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What do you guys think about that?
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Oh, you have good options. Yeah, I was about, I was about to speak for. If you didn't watch the quarterback show, then you don't know that Erickson is very, very pro Baker this week. But also it's a super flex. It's like hard for position players even on like mid weeks to take over a quarterback. George Pickens got the Eagles this week. He'd be a phenomenal like option if you were forced into it. But I just don't see how you don't go regardless of the matchup with Baker, what he's doing on the ground. You know, you still got the receivers. You might have Bucky back. Like I just, I can't not play a viable quarterback in super flex for what are decent options but not great.
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I just think that process says you just. You play your quarterbacks super flags. I mean, Baker Mayfield has a bad game. He scores 15 points.
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Yeah.
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And like that's like a solid outing for a lot of skill position players. Again, full ppr. Okay. There is more of an argument for some of the top skill guys. But dude, I think Baker's gonna sling it, man.
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Like, I mean quarterback and a full ppr. Is Pickens versus the Eagles a discussion point for you?
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If it is full, I'm starting the core. I'm starting the quarterback. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I, I, yeah, I don't think it's close for me. I also don't think it's like that terrible of a match. It's a game with like a 49 and a half point total. Baker Mayfield's been the QB7 back to back weeks. He ran last week and last week he didn't throw for a lot of yards. But it was really windy, right? He's playing in a dome. Give me back Mayfield. Come on. Come on. All the Baker maker.
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Bayfield. I Devo. Sup Sep. Did.
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Am I muted? No, we're good.
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Not now.
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You're good. Cool. Two questions. Got a RB question and a flex question. The rb. I have three running backs who probably won't might be playing. Bucky, Josh Jacobs and Trey Benson. Yeah, yeah, it's rough. Here are my options in case all three of them don't play. I have Blake Corum, Michael Carter, Chris Brooks and Chuba. What two would you stick in in the worst case scenario where none, none of those three play. Jesus.
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All right, run the guy the options again. I heard Chris Brooks, Chuba. What were the other two?
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Michael Carter and Blake Corum.
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What do you think, Erickson? I'm leaning like Chuba and maybe Michael Carter. Corum's interesting. Corm. Stupid Blake Corum taking carries away from my Kyron Williams Russia temp bets and stuff. He's super annoying. But my gut saying Michael Carter and and Chuba. I hate those options though obviously I.
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Think I'll do Corum and Michael harder because like you said.
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Oh, you Chuba.
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Nothing. Three straight. You want to play Chuba Hubbard?
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I don't play any of them.
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But like okay, I, I mean they don't. I mean they use Corma the goal line. Yeah, he got stuffed on three straight.
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Yeah, and then they gave it to the right person after to fix it. But yeah, to your point.
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So yeah, I mean it's a tough matchup. I just don't really know what. I mean. Hubbard doesn't have a workload really. Like his touches have been sapped since Rico. Doubt will take over. So even if the matchup is good against the 49ers bad defense, you're seeing negative game script. You don't even know how much they're going to Run the ball. So. And then Corum doesn't get touches and Michael Carter like he's in that pass catching role. So he sees targets and we don't know D. Mercado is injured, Trey Benson is injured. So I mean there's also a chance that one of these guys just ends up playing. So I mean Jacob seems like he's like really trying to play, which, I don't know, more power.
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I mean Bucky practiced that. I actually have the most optimism of Bucky of that list. But you, you like, you would definitely play a banged up Bucky and Josh Jacobs over that pile of garbage.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And again, it's worth waiting too. So it's like I don't, I don't know if you're going to miss much. Like, oh, I didn't play Bay Cloron or also you have. So because Corum and Bucky play at the same game, you can go down to the wire with Bucky if it's a one time decision and it's like, okay, I could just flip in Gorham. So I don't take a zero. So that's probably what I would do.
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Look at you.
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Look at you.
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It's our boy Nut. What's up with the venom tag?
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All right, so basically I gotta start a wide receiver and a flex and I'm choosing between Odunze, Flowers, Pittman and Henderson.
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So Flowers, Pittman, Odunze and Travion. You're just unfazed by the. The Trayvon or the Ramandre coming back news, which I don't blame you on that.
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It's really not. It's really more about them facing the Bengals.
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Yeah.
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If they were facing a good run defense, I would probably feel more different. But I just. Dude, Trevor Henderson could be the RB one on 10 carries.
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Yeah. Who did you say? Did you say A Dunes, A and Travion?
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Yeah, yeah, those are the best players.
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I do the same thing begrudgingly and I'll be mad when Ramondre gets goal line carries, but you know, it's the Bengals, they're really, really bad Rice pudding. What's up, rice pudding?
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Fellas.
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What's up, dude?
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Couple quick things here. Quick therapy session. I dropped Trivia Henderson a couple days before he went absolutely off, so. And I've lost to him twice since then.
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No, how did you lose to him twice?
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Man, it was in two different leagues. I had him in two leagues and then I lost to him the first week.
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Oh, dude.
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When he dropped 40 and then I lost him the next Week in a different league when he dropped 32. I need a second flex option and I'm thinking if a manual or if Josh Jacobs doesn't play, I'll put Wilson in there. But if he doesn't, would you play Charbonnet Menangai or Pierasol?
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Charbonnet Manangai or Pierasol. That is Ricky Purasol for me.
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Yeah, I'm cool with that.
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Yeah. Mananga's limited Charve days, limited. Pierasol might be a nothing, but we also know, you know, big play ability. It's a fantastic matchup. There's no floor players in. That's the other big thing, too. None of those guys are great floor players, so why not go for the big bang with someone like Ricky Pierasol?
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Agreed.
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Jorge, the lefty.
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Sup, Jorge?
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Is that a bird or a dragon in the photo?
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That's a bird. It's a golden eagle from Mongolia. And I drove from London to Mongolia.
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Oh, is that you?
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Put these guys along the way. That's me.
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That's you. So wait, hold on myself a bit. Yeah, no, it's okay. But it's only us here. It's just friends, safe space. That looks like a vulture. So wait, that's a golden eagle from Mongolia.
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So it's. It's what these eagle hunters use to, like, kill deer and get food. So these things are absolutely massive.
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Was it like. Was it terrifying having a giant raptor on your arm like that or were you just like.
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So they said that the eagles will naturally go to the highest point in your body. And so if you don't lift it above your head, it's going to tear your head apart. So that was why I was looking.
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A little bit nervous staring this thing.
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Down, because I was. I was going to take my eyes. Take my eyes out. Dude, Pretty sick photo. And I have both my eyes, so.
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And you know what sign? Eagles over Cowboys. Great defensive matchup. Tearing Cowboys heads off. That's. That's. Those are the signs, Jerry. Signs. All right, what do you got, Jorge?
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There you go. First off, I feel like Eric is going to feel vindicated because he's. He said last week for me to start canine and of course, like, against the Rams, I'm thinking there's no way he's going to do anything. And he pops off 20 points. So that was. That was huge. Wasn't expecting that.
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What did you do? And so he told you to do that and then you were like, okay. And then you didn't listen.
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No, no, I did. No, I just I have both canine and sharbs, and it was a matter of like, do I choose one or the other? Yeah, yeah, I remember that with canine despite sharbs, like vulturing a bunch of TDs. And that was the right call, so appreciate the heads up there. So I'm in another must win situation and Spitgate has kind of destroyed any chances of that after Chase decided to get himself suspended. H hand's on buy and Bucky's on ir. So what I'm trying to figure out is I desperately need a wide receiver, too. I picked up Hollands off of waivers, but I also have options for Washington Downs, iasavas and Burden. Gun to your head, like, would you stick with Ollens? I guess if it's like a must win. I'm a 20 point underdog at this point. I probably need to do a major upside at this point versus Yoshi Voss.
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Yep. Bumblebee tuna to you. It's 100% Yoshi Voss. I was just doing my ranks today, and Yoshi is definitely the play over. All the Mac has got to go down, I think a little bit because Booty looks like he's good to go. So I kind of tanked him. I've got Yoshi Voss just outside the top 30, so I have him as a top three wide receiver. Do you. I don't remember where. I know Pat was like super pro. Yoshi Voss. Did he say where he had him ranked on the rank show or if not, where do you have him?
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I have him 33.
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Okay. I have him at 32.
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So yeah, I think he's very much starting caliber. Look, it's. I'm. I'm above consensus on T. Higgins and above consensus on Yoshi Voss. I think I'm gonna be right on one of these guys. So this is like, I think it's worth the dice roll to be aggressive on one of these two players. Obviously you're going to start T. Higgins no matter what, but Yoshi Boss. Could it be this week's Michael Wilson? I know that in the sleeper article that comes out for featured pros, dude, everyone listed Yoshi Boss as the sleeper wide receiver. And I don't and I don't disagree. And as I was kind of even looking at it a little bit more, I was adding some. My own analysis just. Yoshi Boss has, like, had a couple games this year where he's been involved. He was a wide receiver 12 on the week two weeks ago with Chase and Higgins. So we've already seen him like, have a little Bit of a connection with Flacco. So, yeah, I think that if you're in a pinch, I think that he's a really good start. And if you just don't feel good about any of these other guys like this other receiver, just throw Yoshivas in there. I think that he can be productive.
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Yeah. You know, just to throw one extra little thing in there. On the rank shows that we did together with Pat, we were like, hey, this is a better running back flex week than wide receiver. I will throw the slight caveat to say that Yoshivas might be the one singular player. Like I play in a pentathlon league and he's sitting out there, it's a 12 team league. He's the guy that I'm playing over the Zach Charbonnets over the Tony Pollards. Like, I'm playing over those like mid 30 running backs because I think there's upside. And if you believe in the like, Christian Gonzalez could lock down a T. Higgins. Well, guess what? Yoshi Voss gets to play the T. Higgins in that role while T is the shutdown on Jamar. So, like, very, very firm. Any of the questions you guys might have, we're like, yeah, kind of the flex options. If Yoshi Voss is out there, we are likely going to say him. That is going to be the option over a lot of other stuff that you guys are gonna put out there.
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I think in the Wide Receiver 3 factory of sadness, you gotta shoot your shot. Yoshi's kind of like the guy, right? Just like pick. If you're gonna pick someone in this tier where it's like, like, it's like, do you want to start Xavier Worthy or Yoshi Boss? Yeah.
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You ready for something? Are you ready for this?
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Yeah. Let's go.
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It's one of my good impressions. Was that good?
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That's really good. Okay.
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I feel like DBRO doesn't like I only have weird impressions. I do Meatwad from Aqua Teen. I do Yoshi and that's about it. And Debro just hates my impressions. He just thinks they're the worst.
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But.
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Yes, and the second one was, it's just to complete the Thruster. So for tight ends, I have Odd in my lineup, but Fanon Loveland are available again. I need to kind of maximize upside here. Which of the three would you choose? And then for Flex, Even, I have K9 as my wide, as my running back. If I just put shards with my flex to kind of COVID the TD angle.
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Put Yoshi in there or do you not have Yoshi?
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Well, no, Yoshi is my wide receiver, too, unfortunately.
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Oh, yeah. Okay.
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I only have devonte.
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Okay, so you want to know, like, free or flex? Is there another option on Charbonnet or is it just. Are you just wanting confirmation that that.
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Is what you're going to say? And then there's other wide receivers, like, I kind of talked about, like a Downs, a Washington, a Burden, and a Hollins.
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Oh, okay, okay, gotcha. A tight end. I think I'm sticking with Oden Pro Baker Mayfield here. What about on the Flex, you go shards or you go with one of those wide receivers?
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I think just play shards in there. I don't think those other guys are in a position where their matchups or positions are so upside driven that I'm okay. Hey, if Charbonneg Vultures a touchdown, it doesn't matter because I start a walker, too, so I don't care who scores the touchdown. So I think that's fine.
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Say that name correctly. Our resident Face off expert. What's up, dude?
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Hey, how's it going, guys?
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Good, good. I know you have a question. Why don't you ask the first question real quick?
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Yeah, yeah. Well, it's three really quick rapid fire ones just at the Flex. I'm struggling between picking between Ted McMillan or Chase Brown.
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By the way, that was not the question he was supposed to ask Erickson. Have you seen Face Off? And then Erickson shakes his head.
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I kind of know the answer to this.
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Yeah, we all know it. We all know it. Christmas. We're looking for a Christmas miracle. All right, Tettero or Chase Brown? Erickson.
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Chase Brown.
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Tetrao.
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For me.
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What's the second question?
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Why are you going to have massive targets?
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It's a great matchup again this week. Touchdown equity. I don't trust the.
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The.
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I don't trust the matchup against Bryce Young not being able to be viable. I don't know if they're going to be. I don't know. The ankles are going to run at like a super aggressive degree. I do like that he's going to be able to get the ball out of the backfield, but I actually kind of don't hate the touch. I like the touch and equity a little bit more with Ted Arrow right now.
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Chase Brown has four games with over 100 yards from scrimmage. Yeah, four straight games.
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Who's he playing this week?
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The Patriots without defensive tackle Milton Williams. It's fair. It's fair.
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They're going to dice him up.
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Dude, dude, chase Brown plays 95% of the snap. I'm playing. Dude. Chase Brown is bell cow. Okay?
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It's like, well, back to the preseason, huh? Like, oh, he's a top 10 running back. Chase Brown. Remember. Remember when I got yelled at week one? Wait, hold on, hold on. Remember when I got yelled at week one about not wanting to trade Chase Brown and Doug. Here we have the Limu Emu in its natural habitat, helping people customize their car insurance and save hundreds with Liberty Mutual. Fascinating. It's accompanied by his natural ally, Doug. Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us. Cut the camera.
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And I had to give up a pick though, too. I want to.
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You'd still want that trade back.
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I want an apology. No, I want an apology. I'm going to wait for it. What was question number two?
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Question two, ten man league. There's a lot of depth out there on the waiver wire. I do have B Ryan Robinson as a stash, but there is Bashal Tootin out there. So I'm wondering, should I just hold to be Rob because he's in a better offense or maybe go for the rookie? Do you have Richard McAfee or not? I do not. Then I'm cool with Tutin over Brian Robinson.
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I'm fine with it, too. I mean, I do think there's a point, even outside of not having Christian McCaffrey of why you did the Brian Robinson stuff. But we're also like, we're pretty far in. Like, if Christian McCaffrey were to go down, Brian Robinson's top 10 back, like, there's just no doubts about it. Tootin does have standalone value. So if you need. That's my answer. If you need standalone value right now, Tutin is the answer.
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Gotcha. I've got JT and Chase Brown and Henderson. So not.
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You don't need standalone value. So my eyes. I'm keeping Brian Robinson just in case. What was question number three?
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And this is more for my wife, but. So she's been holding on to Jaden Daniels even though she has Omari Hampton on the IR slot and still holding on to Dak Prescott and Killer Williams. So I'm assuming it's best to just drop Jaden because I. I don't see it happening, him coming back.
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I mean, I.
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You can't trade him for anything. So I would just drop them. You already have two quarterbacks.
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I feel like we've gone through the ringer with Jaden Daniels. Like, you saw the injury and I'm like, caught him. And then they're like, oh, by the way there. Yeah, there's no structural damage. Like, we'll check it out later. And then they're floating these. He could maybe play in it. We're just hearing nothing. Like, I think you can move on from him. I am moving on.
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From him.
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We all are moving on from him.
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It's not, it's not the commanders here, unfortunately. Like last year was their Cinderella season and this year has been more of Friday the 13th diamond vibes. Oh, good.
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Look at you, movie references. Serge. What's up, Serge?
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How's it going? We're going good. Oh, good. Glad to hear it. Real quick. I know Genti has an amazing Week 17 matchup, but the other weeks in there kind of scare me to death. Would you trade him for like a Judkins or maybe like an AJ Brown or something like that straight up or do you just because I'm in first, maybe hold on to him, hope you get to week 17 and then have a smash matchup?
B
This is your only question, right?
A
Yeah. Okay, cool.
B
Sorry I'm just bring you off the stage but didn't if you had another one. Man, I think I love AJ Brown this week against Cowboys. Judkins I just don't know what to do with right now. I love the usage of genty. As far as being in the receiving game, I get. You know what, Eileen, I'm going to hold. But Erickson, you tell me different.
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No, I think you got to hold. Look, if he gets to week 17, he's going to win leagues, right? Like it's as simple as that. Like he can run all over the Giants. Now it's a matter of just getting there. You got to find other ways. But the fact that he's involved so much in the passing game, I don't think he's going to be a total zero every single weekend, even some of these tougher matchups. And although the caller didn't point out, this week, obviously against the Browns is tough. But after that, he's got the Chargers. They have not been a good run defense this year. So that's another good matchup for him. So it's not all gloom and doom for week 17. So I would hold Genty, especially if those are the other options where I'm not completely over the moon. I know Judkins has a pretty good schedule rest season, but he's not as involved as a receiver.
B
All right, I'm gonna click it. Tcb. Hi tcb.
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Hello to the two best looking guys on the fantasy pros team.
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Oh, back. Back into the good graces. Back in the good graces. What's up tcb?
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Well, I'm. I'm just glad you know we got the exclusive that you're on Yoshi in the new Super Mario Galaxy movie coming out. So appreciate that Exclusive.
B
Yeah, I would love that. That's like a dream of mine. Would be to like obviously like act in a movie would be cool. But to do like voice character for something would be amazing. But I don't have range. I don't have a lot of. Obviously my range is run to something like this, like a cartoon character. I got to play something stupid. But that is a life goal in the future. But what is your goal out of this one?
A
Okay, so I am in a 1 QB, just regular flex league and I have Joe Burrow and Aranda Gadsden as my backups. May and Bowers are my starters. So what kind of value do you think I could get for Row and or Gadsden? I feel particularly weak at running back because I have Bucky and Hampton. So if they get healthy, I feel set there. But obviously that's not the case right now. So I don't know what kind of value you think I could get. I do also have London. You know, I could maybe sell him for 75 cents on the dollar with one or both of those guys to try and get a running back. So any advice there?
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What'd you think, Erickson?
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We're going.
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We're going Erickson here.
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I don't think you're going to get ton for Burrow right now just because you got him off of waivers. Probably because he got dropped. And Drake may still has his bye week. So you can. You're gonna need another quarterback. Bowers has already had his bye week. So I would keep him as your tight end and I would trade Gadsden to the manager with the worst tight end situation. And you just can get whatever you want back. And if you want to add London to that deal to sweeten it to get an even higher piece back, whether it's a running back or wide receiver, that's what I would do. We talked about this with with Worm on the trade show where it's not always about which player should I be targeting, it's which manager should I be targeting. And if you want the most for Gadsden, you have to find the manager with the weakest tight end situation.
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Love it. Look at Erickson.
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Such a stud.
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Odakai music I don't know if I said that correctly.
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Odakai.
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I think I did. Sup?
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Nailed it first try.
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Boom. Look at that. What up, dude?
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How we doing? So my question is basically a start to. I gotta admit, I'm the Josh Jacobs owner, so I'm thinking Emmanuel Wilson. I'm also dealing with Spitgate. So thinking about Yoshi Voss. But I have Pierce also. Who are the two you would start out of those three?
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So wait a minute. So the what is Wilson Pierasol and Yoshi Voss that you're asking between those three? Okay, well if Josh Jacobs plays, this is answered for you because Wilson gets kicked to the curb and then I'm.
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Assuming Josh doesn't play. So I think it's more about which. Which receiver because you're gonna start. You're gonna start packers running back. Whichever one.
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Yeah.
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Is playing. Okay. So. So that's easy. Just lock in one of the running backs and move on.
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Agreed.
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Receiver Pierce all over Yoshi Bosby. Like both guys a little bit Welsh. Do you have a lean? I have the rank pretty closely. I have Piercel slightly ahead.
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I do, I do too.
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My direction.
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But I'm gonna say the same thing. But I'm not gonna lie. There's a little part of me that as the week goes on I might fall down the Yoshi Voss hole a little bit more. Phrasing that I might just like, you know, like talk myself more and more into like why I need him to be higher. I think Pierasol probably it's the upside play because it's just such a good matchup. They're just so close. We're both leaning Pierasol here, so I guess that's going to be our answer. But if you decided to go Yoshi, I don't think it's the worst thing in the world. I don't. All right, there we go.
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Yeah. I'm basically dead even on him. I was just curious your thoughts but that makes sense.
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Yeah, we're both dead even on them too.
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I think 49er I think. I think Pierce all's still. I mean again, we like both guys. I think Pierce all is the play though. Would you say he's the better player? Oh yeah. So again, Yoshi Boss is a once one week stop gap it seems like and he can be really good. But I think that the ceiling. Ceiling is Pierce all what he showed for the first four weeks of the season when he was averaging what, over 100 yards per game.
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Yeah.
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And that was with other guys still like in the offense. So I know Kittle miss some time but yeah, I think Pierce all attached to Brock Purdy probably has more upside than Joe Flacco.
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And we can agree it had Piercel gotten like five catches for 70 yards, Pearsall would be inside the top 20 wide receivers.
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Yeah, that's a good way to look at. That's a good Way to look at it, like if you just like a little bit more production last week, like any. Even better about. Yeah, like any. I guess, like for me it's. It's like he still moved up pretty substantially in ECR after a bomb week, but it's because he played a lot of snaps. So I think that gave us the encouragement. Okay, he's healthy now. The production should follow. So I know this has been a long winded answer to get to Pierce.
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All with no, it's good one though.
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Rankings, which our original rankings had anyway. But it's like we're trying to justify the ranks.
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No, but we got to talk through this stuff because this happens. Like I've said this a million times over. One of the reasons back in the day with my in this league shows, we would just be constant guests. You were a guest many times and we would do guests. And one of the best things about that was like a lot of us in ranking and just, you know, putting this stuff together. You just kind of get like a baseline. But then when you start to test your baseline, which some people don't do, some people just do their ranks. Go. But then when you verbally are like, hey, let's talk about this guy or this guy versus this guy, then all of a sudden you start like second guessing yourself. Because on paper we're both pirasal over. But now talking about it, it's like, well, you know, it is super close and I could see where you could move around. So I think these are super important conversations. And I think the Pierasol Yoshi Voss1, like that general vicinity of guys is. It's tough. It's tough this week. And every wrong decision can mean everything. Out of bounds. Me, Bogman Joe Pizzapia. You can check it on twitch. Mondays at 2pm Eastern. And that's not the only thing on Twitch. We got a full schedule for you. Bogman and myself, we've been playing Madden. Hi. My God, Ericsson. We haven't put the clip out yet. People drop off when we play Madden though we're still answering questions, so I wish you would hang out. We had the most absurd, insane into a Madden game you've ever seen. I promise you it went to overtime.
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It's crazy.
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We're gonna have a clip of it. It was nuts. We spent a full hour answering questions and then we answered questions while we played Madden. Two hours, 12pm Eastern. Did that on Tuesday. Look for that clip because holy crap, it was ridiculous. Thursdays, Seth and Debro, 1pm Eastern. Fridays, Seth and Debro 2pm Eastern and on Sundays at noon. We got a Q and A before kickoff. Go to Twitch TV fantasypros. Give us a follow. Don't miss the streams. Hang out. Do it today. Twitch TV fantasyprose. You would gasp. I think you might audibly gasp if you could see what happened at the end of the game. Ericsson, you play, you ever play Madden? I feel like you're not a Madden guy.
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Yeah, I was a Madden guy and then I just got really frustrated with the game and I was sick of all my broken controllers, so I decided to.
B
Good on you.
A
Retire. Retire from Madden, man.
B
Good thing you went heavy into like, you know, sports betting and spit gates and stuff like that. That'll help. You just can't break controllers anymore. You can break other stuff. All right, Toast. Sup, Toast. Come on down.
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It's like the Falcons.
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It's like Michael Penix.
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Hello.
B
What up?
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Hey, Are you guys intrigued with Fannin or are you like, running away from that matchup? Like, you think that's good or bad? I have some other options on the waiver wire like Barner or Knox or Musgrave. What would you guys do? That's really my only question.
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Okay. Yeah, I mean, those aren't the I do like Barner, but those over Fan and I don't think I can go with I think I'm in. I'm the. The word intrigued would be used of like, how is Shador going to treat the full week of practice as the one. Is he going to hug the tight ends? Like, I think I'm on a downslope of Fanon without Gabriel, but I'm open to the possibility things, you know, I mean, like, Fan is really great athletic tight end. They move him in space to be a safety net. He gets yards after the catch. Like, I like Fan in a lot so things could work out well. I'm starting him in your case because the options that you put out there, they don't do anything for me outside of Barner is like a desperation play for me at tight end. So I'm out there with Barner, with Fannin. Do you have higher optimism, Erickson, on Fannin?
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I think it's just kind of like status quo. Right. He kind of does the same thing every week and he's a tight end one if he scores a touchdown and if he doesn't, he's not a tight end one. So not over the moon about any of those other options. I gotta say, Welsh, in this type of situation, this could be a. Oh, throw Taysom Hill in there. That is.
B
I knew it. I knew it was coming.
A
I mean, that. I mean, Taysom Hill is like the quintessential what the heck? Flex type of play. Or at tight end. I would not flex Taste Hill, but it's like if you just want to roll the dice again, he could literally score zero points. But no one's got more multi touchdown upside besides the elite tight ends. And Taysom Hill does this week. And I. I really feel like strongly about that. Like, I'm gonna try to find a spot I'll probably start tasting on our content team league.
B
All right.
A
I can probably put him in there. I can find a spot to sneak him in. But if you really feel like super gross about all your tight ends, then, I mean, that's an option. But I think that I would probably just keep Fannin in. He has a floor. You should see Chadur, you know, lean on him as. I mean, he's been one of the more consistent guys on this team. And we'll obviously see what we get from Jerry Judy, which is always fun to watch, but I think that Fanon's probably the best option of those guys.
B
Yeah, it's fun to watch if you like watching grass grow. That's super fun. Paint dry. Those are super fun. Yeah. I have only two leagues because I'm playing quite a few this year. Only two leagues that are just not great good. One is like a 16 team keeper league that I've been in rebuild and the other is a content team league. Like I'm still alive in the Survivor or the. The Guillotines and you know, my big money. All those are still good. It is our content league that I have just completely fallen apart now. I'm wondering if Taysom Hill's out there and I can beat you.
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I will say. I will say too. And Joku is on the injury report again. So if he doesn't play like, that's just even more fuel to Bannon as. Okay. He's gonna play all the snaps. Like, that's a good floor for a tight end. Okay.
B
All right, last three. I'll try to get him in here on a little bit of a lightning round. Ronan Ronan, premium member. What's up, Ronan? I see you dropped your team in here. So what's the question?
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The question is more about just getting ready for the playoffs.
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I mean, I've got guys like Sutton.
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And Tracy on my bench and I don't really expect them to crack it. Do I just hold those types of guys, you know, in case of Injury or do I try to push and trade them off in the next week or so?
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And starting lineup is Dak, etn, Gibbs, Lamb, Olave, jsn. I can't really tell if that's like a flex where Bucky and Quinte on Judkins is. They are okay. Those are flexes. So then, yeah, it's like, I get the idea of. Of the moving off thing. My personal take on it would be you have to take a Sutton and pair him with a Jutkins and you make a big upgrade. You someone that needs some depth and you. You upgrade from that standpoint. Otherwise, I don't think it's the worst thing in the world to have some depth. I mean, you have Bucky who where there's nothing safe. Olave Lamb, both injuries. ETN is banged up and looks like he could be, you know, lose. Like, I don't think it's a bad thing to have depth. So the thing that I'm considering is you taking two players making a massive upgrade. One has to be a receiver because whether I think you put Sutton as a starter or you move him, he's a CO like Jordan Mason doesn't do much here. So that's my take on this team. What do you think, Erickson?
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I kind of agree. I don't think that having depth is like, the worst thing in the world, especially with, I mean, these aren't like, terrible pieces. I mean, Mason's probably more of like a handcuff, so he's probably the guy you could probably let go. But, I mean, we've seen Aaron Jones get banged up throughout this season and again, bit gate 2.0. Right? Like, I mean, we literally just saw George Pickens do the exact same penalty Jameson Williams did. Like, our players gonna stop spinning? We would hope so, but who knows? So, like, I think that having Sutton in your back pocket in case, you know, someone misses a week, it's not the worst thing in the world to throw him out there. I mean, he's been pretty good. I know that he's fallen off the last couple weeks, but, I mean, there are definitely worse situations to be in. So unless you can upgrade, like you said, package Sutton with Judkins to move up. I think Jones is. Or, excuse me. Mason's probably the only guy I would really like dump.
B
Yeah. Yeah. If there was something decent out there later did pret a member on the Fantasy Bros. Discord second to last up.
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What's up? Hey, how's it going, guys? Thank you. Yeah, I got a flex question. It's either between J or Tyler Warren. I. I mean, I do have Bowers. I haven't not. I've been trying to trade one of these guys for a while. I've not been able to find a partner. So this is just trying to find the best flex for this week. That's a he. He does not leave your lineup. Not from now, for the rest of the season.
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It's a tougher matchup too. So I'm good with that. Yeah, that. See, now that's a situation where you have like two of the top three tight ends. I can tell you've been trying to make that move. You're dying to make that move and it just doesn't. Hasn't happened. But I'm in agreement with Erickson. Redbeard. Final up. We'll slip Redbeard.
A
What's up, y'? All? What up?
B
What do you got?
A
Two quick ones. First one is Stash McLaughlin or A.D. mitchell with the injuries.
B
Jelly McLaughlin. McLaughlin, 80 Mitchell. Yeah, sure. I'm good with that. Which one did you say I went with Erickson. McLaughlin.
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Yeah. Other question I had somebody hit me up for Jalen Hurts. It's one quarterback league. I've got Drake May as my starter. His. His was sending T Law and then I pack it. I was thinking of packaging either DK Metcalf or Devonte Smith with Jalen Hurts and go after either Rome or jmo. He does have Sutton. Also.
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Do you guys care about your second quarterbacks a lot that he's sending one.
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Everybody in this league for some reason there's some that have three or four or five quarterbacks. So there's nothing on the waiver because.
B
T Law doesn't do anything for me here because like if I'm going to look at it from a singular standp, it's Jalen Hurts for who's the other one? JMO and who?
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He's got jmo Rome. The only receivers. I'm really interested. He's got Romo DunesDay. Sutton and JMO are the only ones. I'm really interested. Everybody else.
B
Yeah, yeah, I know. I got you. So then would you trade Jalen Hurts in that scenario for A Dunes A or Jameson Williams, Erickson.
A
So he has May already, right?
B
He has Drake May. So that would be his starter.
A
Yeah, I would. I want JMO on my team. The Lions are set up so well rest of the way. They don't think it's outside again.
B
You think it's equal. Equal value to get JMO and get. Get rid of Jalen Hurts if you.
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Already have Drake May. I mean, you're getting. I think you're Getting a top 20 wide receiver rest of season. Like locked and loaded starter that has. Yeah, I would do it. Yeah, give me jm.
B
Yeah, I think it upgrades your team.
A
Maybe this is the type Dynasty, too. Oh, give me. Give me jmo. Dynasty. Yeah, both guys are pretty good. Actually.
B
I might go Rome, to be honest with you on that. I think both are solid plays. Dynasty. I kind of want Rome a little.
A
Bit more, but yeah, rather have him.
B
Get a pick, too. Can we get a pick for Jalen Hurts Dynasty.
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We get a pick.
B
Second round. Too much Chase Brown and a first, please.
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That's a joke. I think if it's Dynasty, you got to get Rome. I mean, he's pranked pretty high. I mean, he sprang higher than Jamo.
B
Yeah, I think I'm going for Roman. So go Rome. For Hertz. I think it's pretty even. If you want to have the other pieces to like even it out, you can do that. And that is beautiful. You guys did a fantastic job. Thank you so much for hanging out all the live people in here and all of you on the podcast for hanging out with us. If you're listening on the podcast, why are you not hanging out with us? Do you not like us? Come on. We like you. Come and hang out. Be a part of the fun. Erickson and I usually my camera works. It didn't today. So you just got to stare at Erickson. Just looking into the ethers and without me. But that's okay. You guys can come in fantasypros.com chat. It will take you to the Discord. We have a special extra point room where you guys can come and hang out. We also send out notifications when we're doing the live shows. So join today and be a part of the community. All the people you heard are great people in our community over on Discord and we'd love to have you there. And I know they agree. So do that today. That is the show. Two point is good for Ericsson. I'm Welsh. You guys have a fantastic one. I think we're going to be early next week, but regardless, if we don't talk to you till then, happy Thanksgiving. Have a great one. We love you and goodbye.
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Episode: FantasyPros - The Extra Point: Gearing Up For Playoffs, Tough Week 12 Decisions, and Chat Q&A (Ep. 1860)
Date: November 23, 2025
Hosts: "Welsh" and Andrew Erickson
Format: Live Q&A via Discord with FantasyPros community
This episode of "The Herd" features the FantasyPros "Extra Point" segment, where hosts Welsh and Andrew Erickson fielded live fantasy football questions from Discord audience members as the fantasy playoffs approach. Topics covered injury updates, playoff strategy, tough Week 12 start/sit calls, optimizing rosters, and waiver wire questions. The tone was friendly, energetic, and interactive, mixing analysis with banter, live listener stories, and plenty of actionable advice for keeping fantasy teams on track as the playoffs loom.
| Segment/Question | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------|:----------:| | Trusting Process As Playoffs Loom | 01:25 | | Joe Mixon Injury News | 00:47 | | Jennings vs. Pearsall WR Debate | 03:25–05:35| | Drake London Keeper League Dilemma | 05:38–08:17| | Superflex: Baker vs. WRs | 09:24–10:54| | Desperation RB Start/Sit | 11:26–13:36| | Yoshi Voss Flex Play Discussion | 17:34–21:09| | Yoshivas vs. Worthy/Downgraded WRs | 18:32–20:00| | Consolidation vs. Depth (Sutton, Judkins) | 43:21–44:11| | Trade Strategy With Gadsden | 32:19–33:04| | Fannin vs. TE Streamers/Taysom Hill | 39:09–40:46| | Final Lightning Qs: Waiver Adds, Jalen Hurts Trade | 45:03–47:35 |
The episode pressed home the importance of disciplined, process-based management, and community support as fantasy playoffs approach. Key takeaways included sticking with trustworthy quarterback options in superflex, reading injury reports closely, leveraging depth for upgrades only if a true improvement is possible, and not panicking into sub-optimal start/sit swaps. The hosts’ friendly expert tone, thorough listener engagement, and actionable answers made this a valuable episode for anyone seeking to optimize their rosters and get ready for the fantasy football stretch run.