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Scott Bogman
Welcome back, everybody. It's the Extra Point. I'm your host, Scott Bogman, today with my man, Andrew Erickson. Erickson, Little under the weather, but you're weathering the storm here, so we like to see that. So if Erickson sounds a little different, it is because he's a gamer and he's showing up here to get it done. What's going on, Erickson? You feeling better?
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, definitely feeling better compared to earlier in the week, but still a little nasally. So I apologize for those that are listening at home. But here to help people answer their questions, fantasy lineups need to be set regardless of health status. So even though I'm on the injury report, we're going to show up and we're going to show out. Let's go.
Scott Bogman
And we can talk about Thursday games on this one on this edition, finally. So, yeah, lots of fun, but let's dive in here. Before we get to the questions, let me remind you guys about the Fantasy Pro's Discord community. You can chat with other fans to get your questions answered that end up on our podcast feed. The current schedule right now is Worm and Fitz at 5 Eastern, the first Tuesday of every month, myself and Fitz at 5 Eastern, the third Tuesday of every month in Welsh and Ericsson on Thursdays at 2 Eastern. Except for today. Come and get your questions answered and be on the show@fantasybros.com chat all right, first person up here with their hand raised is Devo. What is going on, Devo? How can we help you out today, my friend?
Andrew Erickson
Hey, how's it going? Got a. I'm probably just going crazy here and probably should just stick with my guys. But I really want to see where I can fit Michael Wilson in. But currently I have Nico Collins, Chris Olave, AJ Brown and Tet. So is there any way I'm starting Mike Wilson over any of them? If so, who?
Scott Bogman
What do you think, Erickson? I don't, I don't know that we could give us, give us those wide receivers. One more time, Devo.
Andrew Erickson
It's Nico Olave, A.J. brown, and then Tet.
Scott Bogman
Will you start Michael Wilson over Olave Erickson?
Andrew Erickson
Is it full ppr, Half pbr? Full ppr? Okay. Yeah. I mean, so Mars not coming back, right? Like, is he's out. Is he out this week? Do we know? I know reports.
Scott Bogman
I. I would think. Yeah, I would think that he's probably down one more week.
Andrew Erickson
Okay. So with that, we'll preface it with that. He's got to be out. If. If Marvin Harrison Jr. Comes back, I think you can probably just bench Michael Wilson. Although I don't think that he's going to go away entirely. I think compared to those other options, you probably can't do it. I'm looking at my rankings to kind of see I got him right next to Olave, so I think that probably would be the move. I don't think that you're taking on, like, this insane amount of risk if you bench Chris Olave just because he's attached to a rookie quarterback playing on the road. And Miami's kind of been pretty good against rookie wide receivers this year, so that. That would be the guy I would bench if you're trying to jam in Michael Wilson. Olave is ranked higher in ecr, but I can get behind the case. So I think that your initial read box with Olavi as the sit would be. Would probably be the move.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, I think I'm 100% with Erickson. If Marv is in there, you can't do it. Although we did hear Gannon say that even when Marv comes back, that Wilson is going to be higher priority, like in the pecking order. He's going to have more plays designed for him and things like that. But also he gives us this cryptic update on Marvin Harrison. It was like, well, if his mind, body, and soul are all ready for him to be out there, then he'll be out there whenever that is. So. Doesn't sound very positive. So probably. Probably roll with Wilson this week, Devo. So. But just make sure that Harrison's not playing anything else for us, Devo.
Andrew Erickson
Nope, that was it. I'll leave the Face off questions to the Face off guy when he shows up.
Scott Bogman
Awesome. Good stuff. All right, let's see. Jack, you are up next, my friend. What is going on, Jack? How can we help you today? You there, Jack? Jack park twice if you're in Milwaukee.
Andrew Erickson
All right.
Scott Bogman
Raise your hand again.
Andrew Erickson
We'll get it.
Scott Bogman
We'll get it figured out, Jack. Serge. What's going on, Serge? How we doing?
Andrew Erickson
Just working.
Scott Bogman
There we go.
Andrew Erickson
Good.
Caller/Listener
How are you guys doing?
Scott Bogman
Great. How are you?
Andrew Erickson
All right, two quick ones here.
Caller/Listener
One, just kind of want your guys thoughts on the outlook of Diggs rest of season after Campbell goes down. Doesn't look like it's season ending but.
Andrew Erickson
Going to be out for a few weeks and also Booty coming back.
Scott Bogman
That's your team, Erickson. I'll, I'll defer to you here.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, it's really unfortunate what happened with Campbell. Look, I guess it's possible you can see each of the Drake May efficiency kind of tail off a little bit. He's. But I mean to his credit like he's been overcoming like pressure most of the season. The cluster injuries are concerning them because it's not just Campbell, it's also Jared Wilson that also got hurt. But I mean the matchups are still so good for him rest of season like he just played like everyone the Patriots play is just bad. Every single team they play and I know that they're going to get destroyed in a playoff game this year because they're going to finally play somebody good. And so I'm just trying to keep that in perspective. Even if like they get the number one seed. I'm just very, I'm very tepid about like oh, I'm all in on this team just because they really have played just the absolute cupcake of schedule. So I don't think you can really do anything with Diggs. I knew. I do think that it was kind of concerning that his routes dipped so significantly when Booty came back. I didn't really think that was going to be the case, but I would say it was kind of a. Everything kind of bad. It was like the worst case outcome last week. The Bengals have been really good against number one wide receivers. As weird as that is to say. They're actually the number one team in terms of allowing fantasy points to wide receivers just because they're so bad against every other position.
Scott Bogman
It's just a one time the quarterback's just like hey look I. Everybody else look at this.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, they just don't cover tight ends. Like Hunter Henry was wide open by like five yards in every single attempt that he got, whereas Diggs is getting blanketed with coverage. So look, he still is the alpha in terms of the target leader in the offense. Still has been really highly efficient this season. So maybe he doesn't get up to low end wide receiver 1 numbers. Like at times we thought that he could do. He's probably just like more of a mid range wide receiver 2. And if Drake May continues to throw two touchdowns every single week, I mean, I think that he's going to be fine for the most part. So that's probably where I would rank him like in the 20 to 16 range.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, I agree. I mean, there's not much you can do there, but hopefully we just get more quick passes for him.
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Scott Bogman
Will Campbell went on the IR today, didn't he, this morning?
Andrew Erickson
Yeah. I mean, technically he could come back. It's one of those like types of IRS IR you always have to like specify. Is it season ending is the four week ir, but no. Yeah, definitely a brutal, brutal loss.
Scott Bogman
Yeah. He's been so good this year. So. Great question, Serge. Got any more or is that. That the one you had for us?
Caller/Listener
Yeah, just one more quick one. So I had Tucker Kraft. Obviously he went down a few weeks ago. So I've been streaming Juwan Johnson most.
Andrew Erickson
Weeks, but I mean, with the increased.
Caller/Listener
Usage of Taysom Hill and kind of like his running role is. Is this the, the phantom Taysum Hill, go chase it week, or should I just stick with Juwan Johnson from the Saints tight end position?
Scott Bogman
What do you think about chasing Taysom Hill, Erickson? Because I just think it's a. I think it's a losing effort most weeks. Right. Like, it's just, it's kind of at random. I think you can see it sometimes. But even like when he had seven carries a couple weeks ago didn't amount to much. So I think it's hard to go, you know, chasing those waterfalls like Taysom Hill, right?
Andrew Erickson
Well, I would say that. I mean, last week he had 10 carries, so he had even more. I mean, his carries have gone up in four straight games, so 2, 4, 7, 10. Camara's down. Look, we always talk about playing for upside. In your opinion, Bogs, be straight with me. Who has more double digit touchdown upside, Taysom Hill or Joanne Johnson? You know, the answer is taste him.
Scott Bogman
It is. But in a PPR league, I think I'd still rather have Joanne Johnson week to week.
Andrew Erickson
Week to week. Right. But in this particular matchup against Miami against, like, I don't love that it's on the road, but yeah, no, Camara.
Scott Bogman
This is, this is a week to hunt him for sure. I just feel like as soon as I do it, It's. I look, one catch for 70 yards and four runs for three yards, right? Like, I don't know, but I guess.
Andrew Erickson
It'S like, well, what are you going to get from Juwan Johnson? Four catches for 60 yards. Like, is that like. So I get that. That's higher again. Johnson has a higher floor, but he.
Scott Bogman
Really pops off when Olava gets hurt, you know?
Andrew Erickson
Yeah. And we want upside and taste some Hill again. Camaro's out. Like, this is. He doesn't get opportunities where he's going to get double digit, double digit carries, touches, whether it's pass attempts. I mean, last week he just ran bad again. I was watching that game closely because. Or at least like watching the box score because I had taste mill anytime touchdown and Camara goes down. I'm thinking, all right, wheels up. And he gets like. He gets like, like 17 attempts in the red zone that can't score and I'm just like tilting my face off. So what about.
Scott Bogman
What about this? Who would you want between A.J. barner and Taysom Hill because they run Wildcat near the gold line, the dish push with Barner so he has an extra, you know, he has an extra path to a touchdown. Would you rather have Barner, who's already out there getting catches, or would it be Taysom Hill?
Andrew Erickson
I think it's still taste and Hill. I think I'm ready to roll the dice. Look, I talked about it last week. I thought last week was Taysom Hill week. Never wrong, Boggs. Just early.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, okay. Yeah, right.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I kind of like.
Scott Bogman
I like players and coaches screw it up. That's what it is.
Andrew Erickson
I like. I like Hill this week. So I roll the dice.
Scott Bogman
I mean, upside for sure. If you're, you know, if you're looking at that, those projections and you're 10 points or more behind, just roll Taysom Hill. That's what I would say.
Andrew Erickson
Play that especially in and a half. And half PBR touchdowns. More. Yeah, significantly more.
Scott Bogman
Yep. Thank you, Serge. Good questions, my friend. All right, it looks like we have. Who is this man? I need glasses. Zach. I'm not sure how to say your name. What's going on? What can we do for you, my friend? Is this working? I think I broke it. All right, how about Dredis? What's up, Dreddis? Dead air here. There we go. What's up, Dreddis Erickson, I raise your.
Andrew Erickson
Sick and raise you one laryngitis.
Scott Bogman
Oh, man, it's like. It's like I'm in a ward of the hospital here.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I just had a. A few start sick questions, if that's okay.
Scott Bogman
I'll put it in the chat. Of course. Yeah, go ahead. Let's see. All right, full ppr. First one Erickson. Tyrod or shock?
Andrew Erickson
Let's See, man, whenever. It's these garbage quarterbacks movies. What does ECR think? Because I don't know. What if I have a lead? I have. I mean I got. I got. I got to Rod. No, ECR's got to Rod. I got to Rod. It's super flex. So I can potentially put somebody in there instead of one of those. Because I got Stafford as my main qb. I'd keep. I'd roll the quarterbacks.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, me too.
Andrew Erickson
They just have like. I mean like they get 15 points. That's like a bad game from a quarterback and like that's a decent game from most like skill position players. So I think the floor is too high. So I would just go with Torod.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, I would go with Shuck. But I mean flip a coin, you know, I think they're both in the same QB2, QB3. Borderline there. Strange or Henry Erickson. That'd be Henry against the Giants on and Strange at the Titans.
Andrew Erickson
Probably Hunter Henry.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, more like I think as well. And then here. Here's one sit one. Rico McConkey Olave Diggs and won Dale. I think it's Wandale. He's been so good recently.
Andrew Erickson
Man. Is it Diggs? Yeah, it's hard for me to sit one day. Gets like 11 targets every game.
Scott Bogman
He does.
Andrew Erickson
No, I don't want to set McConkey. Neither do I not think you could just. Man, maybe I gotta move Diggs down. Honestly, because I'm looking at this and.
Scott Bogman
Start Olave over him.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah. I can't take. I mean, is it. Do you just. Can't say. I mean, you sit Rico against the Rams.
Scott Bogman
No, like, dude.
Andrew Erickson
I mean he's been like seating touches to chip A Hubbard though. Like, it's like his usage has not been that great the last couple weeks.
Scott Bogman
No. Yeah.
Andrew Erickson
Middle of the range.
Scott Bogman
Had the ball for 22 minutes.
Andrew Erickson
No, no, no, you're right.
Scott Bogman
I think if they have the ball for 30 minutes, you're going to get a full assortment of carries from Rico. So I'm not benching him. No.
Andrew Erickson
And I think the split honestly 75, 25 with him this last game. Yeah, I think it's probably a lot better than. I just. I just think that quarterback, rookie quarterback on the road against Miami who is just again one of these defenses that's like low key. Not that bad against fantasy wide receivers. Not because they're like particularly good, just the way that teams play them. You could see things go south for the Saints offense. Whereas Diggs playing the Giants, Wanda's playing the Patriots are bad against wide receivers. Conkey is the number one receiver for the Chargers. So again, if you like, look at like, which quarterback you want to fade again, we already talked about fading shock, so, so I guess I'd fade his number one wide receiver. So I guess it's a lot because I feel like he's the one that's like less likely to totally burn me, so that's what I would do. At least it's a good question.
Scott Bogman
We sat in him and hot on it for a long time, so obviously a tough one to answer. Very, very nice, Stratus. And then this last one is one flex, one Waddle. Harvey or Neil. I think I tossed Neil out so it'd be or Harvey.
Andrew Erickson
For me, it's Waddle.
Scott Bogman
Waddle. Okay. Yeah, I think so.
Andrew Erickson
You should have known better than to to ask Ericson to sit. Waddle. Hey, man. Hey. Look at the production.
Scott Bogman
The production speaks for itself playing Washington.
Andrew Erickson
That is true.
Scott Bogman
I, I, I still, I think Waddle's safer, but Harvey has more upside.
Andrew Erickson
So this half ppr. By the way, is there anyone else you can sit? There's got to be someone else. And I'm not sitting Hn or Cook.
Scott Bogman
Nope.
Andrew Erickson
Okay. Or Pickens or CD Lamb. So no.
Scott Bogman
Nope. It's a good spot to be in, though. That's a great lineup. So I think just go with Waddle. You have enough upside there already.
Andrew Erickson
Well, too. I, I think too. So to your point, Bog. So this is where the floor ceiling thing kind of play. See what the Dallas Cowboys wide receivers do this week. If they suck, then you got to know. Okay, I got to shoot for upside. Maybe that's Harvey.
Scott Bogman
Yep.
Andrew Erickson
You know, more likely to score twice. So sure, you can change your lineup a little bit depending. And then if they both smash, it's like don't risk falling into the Shane Payton shenanigans. Play Waddle. He'll be fine. Because you already you're up 40 points because Pickens and Lamb went off against the Chiefs. So maybe final decision. Hopefully CD won't drop the ball 10 times this time. Is he going to go three weeks in a row where he drops a touchdown? Who knows?
Scott Bogman
I think he's just allergic to the Eagles. So outside of that, he's been pretty good when he's not hurt.
Andrew Erickson
So thank you so much, guys. Have a good Thanksgiving.
Scott Bogman
You got it. YouTube. Dredis. Feel better, lady man. Yeah, and I see feel better. Banshee says, speaking of voice options, this stuff is going around bad this season. I can't remember my Wife or kid not coughing anymore.
Andrew Erickson
So sounds like tis the season, right?
Scott Bogman
That's right. We used to get. When I lived in Arizona, we would get summer colds sometimes this is still worse in the winter because that's when it's going around. But you get the summer colds because everybody's inside in the summer because nobody wants to go outside because it's so damn hot. So it's kind of the opposite effect. So it happened to me a couple times where I got a summer cold and it Arizona, but this is typically the time. Maddox, you are up next, my friend. What is going on? Maddox, how can we help you today? Looks like.
Andrew Erickson
Can you hear me? Can you hear me?
Scott Bogman
We got you now. Perfect.
Andrew Erickson
All right. Perfect. All right, so first question. I've got Kenneth Walker. I've got Devin Neal, half ppr. If Kamara is out, do I start Neil against the Miami defense? Mars not gonna play. So.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, so you're going.
Andrew Erickson
So he's going to start over Walker.
Scott Bogman
Over Walker, Eric.
Andrew Erickson
Oh, no, not over Walker. No. I thought you were just asking. Okay. No, I mean Camara's definitely not playing. He's definitely out this week. But not over Walker. Not as a 10 point home favorite against the Vikings who are just spiraling right now. Just being Brosmer. It's like, dude, poor guy.
Scott Bogman
Brosmer. Come on, man.
Andrew Erickson
It's. It's. No, it's Brosmer.
Scott Bogman
Brosmer. Of course it is.
Andrew Erickson
Well, I don't make. Don't make me bro you bro.
Scott Bogman
Bro. Bro. Smurt. Yeah, well, like it was Blake Brodles. Should have been Blake Brodles. If there was someone that I was ever going to be, bro, it should have been Blake Bortles for sure.
Andrew Erickson
But yeah, no, I would. I would play Walker. The Walker got pretty good usage last week. Played his highest snapshare of the season. And Mike McDonald in all of his press conferences since that game, he's been talking about how he felt Ken Walker on the field. And that's from the coach speak index. That that is pretty bullish for me that the coach is feeling his running back on the field. That. Okay, this could be sticky and a positive game script. I think Walker could see north of like 20 carries in this game, to be honest. So I think he could have a big game. Okay, awesome. Second question, last question. So I've got New Orleans defense, I've got Pittsburgh defense. Do you like the two defense playoff approach or should I stick with just one and if so, which one?
Scott Bogman
Typically I don't defenses. I just play matchups every single Week. And I understand knowing it. If you have the bench space for it, it's fine. But I would rather handcuff a running back even if it's not going to give me anything, then carry two defenses most weeks. What are your thoughts, Ericsson?
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I would just keep one defense and because again, you're going to be competing with less teams in the playoffs to get defenses off the waivers anyway. I don't know what Pittsburgh's schedule, rest of season is for defenses. I know that the Saints schedule is pretty good, so that's the one I probably be rolling with. Just based on your overall aggregate matchups.
Scott Bogman
Dolphins, Lions, Browns. In the playoffs for the Steelers.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I mean, Lions is bad. I mean, obviously the Browns is good and Dolphins. So yeah, I guess. I mean, if you don't like anyone on waivers, I guess it's fine. But I mean, you could probably drop with the Steelers playing this week again, the Bills. Oh, yeah. So drop them. This. I mean, do you think someone's going to pick them up and start them? Probably not. So.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, not against Buffalo, most likely.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah. Yeah.
Scott Bogman
So I'd rather grab like if a Brian Robinson is out there or who's another handcuff you'd want to just.
Andrew Erickson
Most would actually be me right now.
Scott Bogman
Because I have Gen Z. Yeah, not bad. Just in case he doesn't.
Andrew Erickson
I don't know.
Scott Bogman
Right.
Andrew Erickson
Like, right, right.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, Yeah, I would rather do that as well. So anything else for us there, Maddox?
Andrew Erickson
No, that's going to be it.
Scott Bogman
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Scott Bogman
All right, let's get to the next person up here that is going to be DB what's going on DB what can we do for you today, my friend?
Andrew Erickson
What's up guys? Can you guys hear me?
Scott Bogman
We gotcha.
Andrew Erickson
All right, so I just had a few questions. Kind of like some start sit advice here. So I have a league where you know, I know. We know Joe Burrow's coming back this week and you want to play on Thanksgiving, but I also have Bo Nix against the Commanders. What do you guys kind of see who to start or any insights on that?
Scott Bogman
It's a good one. Where are you going there, Erickson? Between Bo Nix who is still a high score but seems to take three quarters to get going recently, or Joe Burrow coming off IR against Ravens on Thursday.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, this one is really easy for me. I think it's bonix. I get the Commanders and look, I don't know if I'm like taking crazy pills or something, but I don't understand Joe Burrow as Quarterback 8 in ACR. Like this guy is coming off so much missed time And Tom Strachan tweeted this out last week before we thought Joe Burrow was going to play his quarterback finishes in week one, the last three seasons. QB 28, QB 30, QB 31. Like, I just, I don't understand the confidence that oh yeah, he's going to drop back in and just fire on all cylinders like that makes no sense to me now. Now maybe I'm just wrong. Like I would be totally willing to eat the L if I'm wrong again. He. It's Joe Burrow and that's hard to argue against, but we got a pretty, we got a pretty large sample size of him coming back after a long layoff and doing absolutely nothing. He's also missing one of his best wide receivers and T. Higgins against the Ravens on the road and their defense has played significantly better so than they have to start the year.
Scott Bogman
So, so I don't, it's obviously, I don't understand. It's obviously Bo Nicks here. But let me ask you, now that we're here, how far down is Bo Nix on your on your rankings this week then? Because I'm sorry, not both.
Andrew Erickson
QB9QB Joe Burrow is QB19. Like, I'm not like, like the only guy that I would probably start him over of like someone that you like might have on your is Brock Purdy and that's because he's facing the Cleveland Browns on the road.
Scott Bogman
Okay.
Andrew Erickson
Like, I just, I don't know. Like, am I crazy Box? I don't because like I'm seeing like he's, he's ECR is QB8. Like it's just ahead of Dak Prescott.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, like, look, I understand that and I, and I moved him down as well. I got him at, I got him at 10. I don't have him at 8 so. And I have Bo Nixon 8, by the way. So just looking at that. But I think what you're seeing is, you know, this isn't week one. It's middle of the year. He has already played this year. He's been in practice every single week. Yes, you're right. He's coming off an injury, but he also looked good to go on Sunday. And they just decided not to plan because this game is on short rest. And we've seen Jackson Dart get dropped in with no experience and have huge weeks. We've seen Jacoby Brissette as a backup come in and blow up. We've seen Mac Jones come in and blow up. So I think that. I think it's.
Andrew Erickson
Those guys weren't coming off injuries, though.
Scott Bogman
I understand that.
Andrew Erickson
Those guys were coming off injuries.
Scott Bogman
I get it.
Andrew Erickson
Like, that's the thing.
Scott Bogman
But, but, but I. But I think that's what. But I think that's why the rankings are like that.
Andrew Erickson
Okay, so you're trying to justify.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, yeah. I'm not justifying it personally, but I'm saying, and you know, it is a decent matchup against the Ravens. They haven't put pressure on quarterbacks. Well, this year. The coverage hasn't been great. So, you know, I think it's the matchup, the fact that he probably could have been back last week and that we've seen other guys drop in out of nowhere and have huge weeks, I think that is what is leading towards this ranking. So.
Andrew Erickson
Okay. And look, again, I'll go credit to look. He's also, like, when I thought about, like, posting something about this, because I just. I just can't get on board with where he's ranked this week. And maybe I'm wrong because he is Joe Burrow. Right?
Caller/Listener
Right.
Andrew Erickson
Like, at the end of the day, like, you want to start Joe Burr because not Joe Burr. Like, I don't care. And that's how I'm wrong, because he is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL when he is 100 healthy and 100 right. I'm just very suspect of that being the case here in this matchup. Behind, again, this is still a bad offensive line they're playing on the road, which you don't like for bad offensive lines. He's missing T. Higgins. This is it. Just like we have a sample size of him without one of these guys in the lineup with Higgins, his efficiency falls off without T. Higgins in the lineup. So I get that Chase is back, but, like losing one of your main guys and replacing with Mike Gasecki and Yoshi Boss. Like, it's not the same thing. It's just. It's just not. It's just really not. So that's why I'm hesitant. Like, I just think that this is rank, is way too aggressive. I think that The Bo Nix vs Burrow is a total layup. I mean, he's facing the commanders. They're terrible. So bad. And there's no risk with Bo Nix. He's a mobile quarterback. He runs, he's healthy. He's been good in good matchups this year. So look, maybe in some other debates with. I could maybe entertain Joe Burrow again. It's like, Joe Burrow, Brock Purdy. Give me Joe Burrow. Like, I'll take the risk because I don't want nothing to do with Purdy against the Browns on the road. Like after his Monday night debacle.
Scott Bogman
You want three more receptions?
Andrew Erickson
I. I do. I do not. I mean, you could probably drop Brock Purdy because no one's going to pick him up or playing this week and he's also want to buy next week. So. So. So yeah, that's my, My art, my. My long soliloquy on Joe Burrow. I. I don't know. And maybe I'm. Look, I'll be the first one to admit eat the L. If he balls out on. On Thursday night. I'll probably be asleep during that game because I don't know if I'm going to make it to the whole Thursday night football game. But we. We shall see. We shall see.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, I understand. DB you see this hornet's nest you kicked up here? That was awesome.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, no, I just. I wanted to get a chance to talk about Burrow. I didn't get a chance to talk about any other shows this week just because I. I don't know. I. I just. I'm very much against the market here and I'm kind of interested to see what happens.
Scott Bogman
Great question.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I mean, I definitely feel like Burrow is probably going to be a better start, like maybe further down if they keep him activated. Don't sh. You know. But yeah, my other question was I don't have to kind of. I mean, I. This position, I was a toss up, but I would just. So I have the Patriots kicker right now against the Giants. Do you guys have any strong opinions on any kickers this week? Like Harrison, Bucker is on my waiver, you know, against the Cowboys. So I don't know if I want to pick up a different, you know, different or just run with you. Know Andy Borgales against the, against the Giants.
Scott Bogman
I would say I'd take the Chiefs kicker indoors.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah.
Scott Bogman
You know. Yeah, should be a high scoring affair back and forth a little bit as well. So I think, I think I would just take the safer kicker and that would be Bucker.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I agree.
Scott Bogman
If we offend your opinions, that would be mine.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I think too. So I heard this on another show. This is like the first dome game the Chiefs have played in I think like eight weeks. So they haven't played indoors.
Scott Bogman
I wonder if he gets nervous about it and whiffs because of that then.
Andrew Erickson
Because now he's kicking under pristine conditions.
Scott Bogman
I will say what Buck does love to do because I have a Chiefs fan buddy that we go back and forth with Buckheart a lot. He loves to miss like a 42 yard field goal and then hit a 56 yarder. You know what I mean?
Andrew Erickson
Like, no, nobody loves to miss a 42 yarder. Like, but.
Scott Bogman
He loves to miss those mid range ones that should be automatic and then hit the impossible ones and every once in a while an extra point too, which is frustrating. But he's still a pretty good kicker. That's why he's been around for a while. Don't love his opinions on a lot of things, but as a kicker he's pretty good. So. Appreciate you, D.B. good questions, my friend. Obviously brought out the fire in Mr. Erickson here.
Andrew Erickson
I just, I, I'm just, I don't know, I just, I just, that one to me just, it just sticks out like a glaring thumb this week. And look, I, I, I'm very interested to see what happens. And again, I admit, I'll be the first to admit that. Oh no, Burrow's back.
Scott Bogman
Well, dude, when I, he wasn't, he wasn't at 10. He was at like 5. Like he was way up there. When I, when I started making my rankings and I did the. What are we doing here? He definitely needs to come down. So I was with you. Maybe not as fiery as you and I obviously didn't move him down enough, but yeah, I, I get it. Like you're coming off the ir. I don't care if it's a, you know, a matchup that you're familiar with or not. It's still the Bengals online, so definitely has to be a little bit lower than you see.
Andrew Erickson
And even like if you look at like some of like the betting stuff, like the Bengals team total this week, it's like 21 points.
Scott Bogman
Yeah.
Andrew Erickson
So it's not like the market's expecting this.
Scott Bogman
Chase Brown's not getting any of those. They're all going to Jamar. Chase.
Andrew Erickson
Just so. So, so again, we'll see what happens.
Scott Bogman
It's 300 yards and three touchdowns. Surprised you didn't know that, man. What is going on, my friend? How we doing, Bucks man? You there?
Andrew Erickson
How's it going, fellas?
Scott Bogman
What's going on? How we doing?
Andrew Erickson
Doing good, doing good. So got. I have three questions.
Scott Bogman
First one is surrounding Lamar.
Andrew Erickson
He ruined my week last week. I had Jameer Gills and because of Lamar, I lost by four points. So can I stop Burrow or Lamar this week? I mean, Bucks man, you just listened to what I just said. I mean, I'm starting.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, I go with Lamar too. And I understand your frustration, Bucks man, but I also think that it's like, you know, you have. You have Lamar for a reason and he's going to go when he gets. He may not be right this week, but when he gets right, he's going to carry you. So I understand the trepidation and you know, even because of this, you know, he didn't practice day one, but he practiced in full yesterday. I think he'll be better 100%. I don't know about that, but I think 75% of Lamar is better than 100. A lot of quarterbacks out there. So give me Lamar still.
Andrew Erickson
Keep him in that lease.
Caller/Listener
And another lead half ppr.
Andrew Erickson
Would you do Lamar or Stafford?
Scott Bogman
Ooh, that one's closer. What do you think between that one, Erickson?
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, man. This one definitely is tougher because Lamar feels like he's definitely more risky just because of the injury stuff in Stafford. Dude McVeigh is trying to get this guy as many touchdowns as humanly possible.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, I know he wants him to win mvp.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah. So. And he's facing the Panthers, who lost like three of their secondary starters last.
Scott Bogman
Week, but they picked off pretty a bunch. Come on.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, yeah, it's. Yeah. And then. And now all those guys are hurt, like, so, like J.C. horn's probably not going to play.
Scott Bogman
Are you projected to win this game or is it a tight one? The one where you have to. Tight one. It's a tight one. Then just give me Stanford, give me the safety.
Andrew Erickson
I think, I think you gotta play. Probably play it safe here with Stafford again, it's just like I get like the Nuke. Like, like the 35, 40 point game is, is Lamar. But Stafford, I mean, does he have a game? Like, does he. Has he busted at all this year? Like, does he have a, like A bad. I don't. Like. I don't think so. Like.
Scott Bogman
So he had.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah.
Scott Bogman
If you're one below 10 points the.
Andrew Erickson
Whole year and I don't think Lamar. Lamar doesn't have 10 points back to back weeks. 7.7, which is very, very sad.
Scott Bogman
That's correct. Yeah. Yeah.
Andrew Erickson
So I would say just don't be on tilt if we do see Lamar go off against the Bengals because Stafford will still give you a top 10 performance.
Scott Bogman
Yep. That's. I haven't at like 4 and 6, so. Yeah, if it's close and I want the safety, just give me Stafford. So that's how I would work as well.
Andrew Erickson
Got it.
Scott Bogman
All right, one more question.
Andrew Erickson
In a deep, deeply half ppr, would you go Addison or Yoshibots this week?
Scott Bogman
Yeah, it's got to be Yoshi because Brosmer. Yeah.
Andrew Erickson
You can't.
Scott Bogman
You cannot play anyone.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah.
Scott Bogman
Like Jefferson was. Jefferson was. Probably got the overreaction from Brosmer on the. The ecr. But Addison definitely had an under reaction. I. I moved Jefferson up and moved Addison down.
Andrew Erickson
So Addison is wide receiver 47 and ECR and that's. He's. He's buried.
Scott Bogman
Yeah. No T. Higgins. Joe Burrow back. It's got to be Yoshi.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, you got to do Yoshi, boss. All right, cool.
Caller/Listener
Thanks, fellas.
Scott Bogman
Appreciate it. You got it. Appreciate you, my friend. Before we move on, let me tell you guys about our Twitch out of Bounds with Joe Welsh and myself is on Twitch every Monday at 2 Eastern. Myself and Welsh spent two hours answering questions and playing Madden Live. The last Madden game we played, Erickson was wild. If you didn't see the end of that, Dredis, if you have it still, if you could send it to Erickson, that would be amazing because it was crazy. The end of it. Seth and Debro will be with you on Thursdays at 1pm Eastern and Fridays at 2pm Eastern. We've also got a fantasy football Q and A for every Sunday at noon. Eastern. Head over to Twitch TV FantasyProse. Give us a follow so you never miss a stream and ask your questions live. All right, let's see. Is that N S? N S. What is going on? You are up next, my friend. Looks like you're on mute there on your mic. Figuring it out. We got you. Yep, go ahead.
Caller/Listener
Awesome. I had a couple of questions. My first one is a start. Sit. I have one spot open in my flex.
Andrew Erickson
I have Rico Dowdle, Darnell Mooney, Cortland Sutton, and Aaron Jones.
Scott Bogman
So it's. It's Rico Jones Sutton and Mooney.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah. Two receivers and two running backs.
Scott Bogman
And we're so. We're starting. We're starting one of these guys.
Andrew Erickson
I'm sorry, you're sitting one player. You're starting one of these guys.
Scott Bogman
Rico.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah. Rico.
Scott Bogman
Rico, easy.
Caller/Listener
Okay, and then my next question.
Andrew Erickson
I know you guys talked about it.
Caller/Listener
A little earlier, but I kind of cut out during that time. But about the whole Drake, May, Will Campbell situation.
Scott Bogman
Is he still startable?
Andrew Erickson
I'm kind of projected for playoffs, and I kind of want to line up my run. My quarterback, before it starts, May still startable.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, he's definitely still startable. Yeah. Yeah, you got. Especially this week against the Giants. It is just. We'll have to. We'll have to see the adjustment. I don't think it's going to go, you know, back to how horrible it was last year, but it does suck that Will Campbell and Jared Wilson went down at the same time. So it's frustrating, but he's absolutely still startable.
Andrew Erickson
Awesome. Erickson, before I head off, just some good news for you.
Caller/Listener
I had Burrow stashed, and on the deadline, I traded him away just for.
Andrew Erickson
Scraps, just to get him off my roster.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, that's right. Get rid of Burrow. He sucks.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I sold him as soon as I could. This is gonna be so bad. Thank you, guys.
Caller/Listener
Perfect.
Andrew Erickson
Dennis.
Scott Bogman
Thank you so much, my friend. You're the Burrow hater now. Did you know that?
Andrew Erickson
No, I don't want. It's just this week, man. Like when it's Week 17 against the Cardinals, he'll be up. He'll be back in my top five quarterbacks.
Scott Bogman
So let me ask you something. Just this week, why do you hate him so much? You just. Are you a big Alabama fan? Can't stand anyone to lsu? What's the deal? Why do you hate Joe Burrow?
Andrew Erickson
I can't. I don't hate Joe Burrow.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, guy.
Andrew Erickson
I take the spot. Ate the spot, man.
Scott Bogman
Red Beard. What's up, my friend? How we doing?
Caller/Listener
Doing all right, y'.
Andrew Erickson
All.
Scott Bogman
How are you doing? Good. Redbeard used to love it when Andy Dalton was a quarterback of the Bengals back in the good old days. Before that idiot.
Andrew Erickson
There you go, the Red Rocket.
Scott Bogman
That's right. That's right. Your cousin. So, yeah. What's going on, man? How can we help you?
Caller/Listener
Not much. Two quick ones. First one, prepping for the playoffs.
Andrew Erickson
I should have a buy in week 15, so it's just 16, 17. And New Orleans.
Scott Bogman
And Houston's on waivers this week.
Andrew Erickson
Houston which one would you. Houston. Elite defense with elite matchups. It's the perfect storm. That's where I was leaning, but I wasn't sure with the matchups that New Orleans had. My other question would be a quick sit start with Bucky coming back. Are we waiting to see what he does for a week or. Because I would play him either. Would you claim ahead of it Quinn, Sean Judkins, Travis Etienne, Devonte or dk?
Scott Bogman
I wouldn't. I wouldn't play him ahead of.
Andrew Erickson
I play more dk probably. Okay. I also have Woody Marks and RJ Harvey. Any of those worth throwing in on top over one of those four.
Scott Bogman
Oh, give me the four again. I'm sorry.
Andrew Erickson
You're good. But the four that I've got at the moment in my flex is Quinn, Sean Judkins, Travis etn, Devonte, Smith, DK Metcalf.
Scott Bogman
Three that I might potentially swap out.
Andrew Erickson
Was Bucky, but I kind of feel.
Scott Bogman
Like waiting on him like y' all said. And then RJ Harvey and Woody Marks. I think I would start Harvey over DK or Devonte. Smith is banged up. Right. So I might start a little bit.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, he didn't practice it. Yeah.
Scott Bogman
If something happens with Devonte, obviously Harvey goes in. But if devonte's up and good, then I probably go with Harvey over dk. What do you think, Erickson?
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, Harvey over DK and yeah, Devonte. Yeah, he's banged up. Especially if the Bears get some of their cornerbacks back, you might not see a ton of passing volume from the Eagles just because the Bears are so beat up at linebacker. The Eagles just don't stop talking about we got to get Saquon going. Got to get Saquon going. So this could be a jalen hurts like 15 pass attempt game. And when that happens, someone gets left out, whether it's Goddard, A.J. brown or Smith. And if Smith's injured or he's paddling an injury, I could see like we look up. Oh, he only played like half the snaps. It's like because they just ran the ball 35 times. So I think Smith, you might want to try to grab it gravitate away from this week. I know. I bet the under on his receptions prop already. So I did realize I've got. I got Minchi also.
Scott Bogman
I don't know if.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, she's great. Don't play. Don't play Jets. You don't have to.
Scott Bogman
We're not putting him in over.
Andrew Erickson
I don't.
Scott Bogman
But you have. Yeah, I. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. Questions. Red Beard. Appreciate you, my friend. Let's see who's up next. Jack. What's up, Jack? You're back.
Andrew Erickson
Hey, guys. One dynasty question. 10 teams. Guy is tanking and I'm like 400 points over everyone else and he offered me A.J. brown for Garrett Wilson. I know Garrett Wilson might come back for a pretty decent playoff matchup. Just curious your thoughts on that value.
Scott Bogman
I mean, if you're 400 points better than everybody else, I'm not taking. I'm going to keep Wilson and just, you know, wait on him to come back. So if your team is that much better than everybody else, this isn't a move that you have to have, in my opinion.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah.
Scott Bogman
So I think I would keep Garrett Wilson because he just has a much longer Runway for success. Obviously, he's much younger than A.J. brown, so.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah. All right, one starts sit for this week. ECR is kind of right on top of each other with this. It's Debo, Kenny Gainwell and Aaron Jones for a flex.
Scott Bogman
It's not gain well for me. So for me it's either Debo or. I'm sorry, who was the other person?
Andrew Erickson
Aaron Jones.
Scott Bogman
Aaron Jones Debo or Aaron Jones Erickson?
Andrew Erickson
I mean, I like Gain well, so. So here's nothing. Not Debo for me. Okay. Yeah, please. So.
Scott Bogman
So here's my thing with Gainwell, right? It's the fact that it was Mason Rudolph last week, so they were going to run a lot regardless. Plus Jaylen Warren was coming off the ankle injury, which they said wasn't major and obviously wasn't because it was about 50, 50, I think with Aaron Rodgers back. Aaron loves Warren in there. He doesn't get the ball to gain well as much. He will if. If Warren goes down. Right. So I think we'll still see seven to ten touches from Gainwell. And it's just he had a 55 yard fake tush push, almost touchdown in that game. That was 55 of like his 96 yards. So I think most weeks Gainwell is not going to be doing this PPR league. He catches a lot of passes, so that's nice. But for me, if it's not, it was gain well, it was. I'm sorry. God, my memory is so bad.
Andrew Erickson
And Aaron Jones. I just. I got a bad feeling about Debo with no Jaden Daniels. And I also kind of feel like, I mean, Rogers has a broken wrist, like he's not gonna like I come back healthy.
Scott Bogman
I like.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I like. I still. Even to your point about some of the Gainwell stuff, you mentioned it's the Bills run defense so bad they can't stop anybody. Like the Texans ran over them. Texans are terrible at running the football. So I think Gain well, again, I just don't like the other guys really like Debo. Like his efficiency is falling off a cliff because he's much older. He's been dealing with some injuries. Terry McClure might come back this week.
Scott Bogman
It's going to be.
Andrew Erickson
I don't want any part of that again for Aaron Jones against, against Denver. The Denver defense off a bye week, like, no thanks. And then Aaron Jones is just tough spot. He can't like him. And Kenneth Gain will both catch passes because like with Aaron Jones, you're on the road as 10 point underdogs to the Seahawks.
Scott Bogman
I just think way more touches with Aaron Jones. So that's why. So I would go with. I, I honestly, I'd probably go with Debo for the upside because they'll run short passes and reverses with him too. So I would probably go with Debo. But I understand, I mean, I understand these arguments for sure.
Andrew Erickson
It's the one same league that I'm winning by a ton in the Dynasty league. So like even if I lose, I still lock up a bye week. So it's not like I'm shooting for. It's not a painstaking massive upside. Yeah, yeah, right. It's kind of like whatever. When I look at these three guys, what I'm most confident in efficiency bet against the Bills run defense. Like that's what I feel most confident about. And that benefits Kenneth Gainwell the most. So. Yeah.
Scott Bogman
And if it's not that big a deal. Yeah. Roll with Gainwell in the weak matchup then.
Andrew Erickson
So sweet. Thanks, guys.
Scott Bogman
You got it, Jack. Take it easy, my friend.
Andrew Erickson
Thank you.
Scott Bogman
Let's see. Twitchy. What's up, Twitchy? How we doing, my friend.
Andrew Erickson
From Twitch?
Caller/Listener
Yeah. Hey, how's it going guys?
Scott Bogman
What's going on?
Andrew Erickson
Good.
Caller/Listener
Hey, I got two questions. So I'm trying to. Trying to steal a playoff spot. Right now I'm chasing two people and right now I'm five and seven. Actually, no, I think I'm five and six. I can't do math. Regardless, I got a wide receiver problem and a QB problem. So first off is my wide receiver problem. My most consistent. My best wide receiver by far is Michael Pittman Jr. But he's going against the Texans, so that makes me nervous because. Because the Texans defense looks great.
Scott Bogman
Yeah.
Caller/Listener
My other three receivers are Michael Wilson, Jameson Williams and Khalil Shakir. So I gotta Start two out of the four.
Scott Bogman
Who are you going with?
Caller/Listener
So what are you, Should I, should I go with Pittman anyway?
Andrew Erickson
No, I would not do that. Okay. I would start Jameson. I would start Jameson. And who was the first guy you mentioned? Michael Wilson.
Caller/Listener
Even though Harrison might be back.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, I don't think Harrison's kind out. But, but even if he does, they said that they're going to prioritize Michael Wilson more because he's been so good. I mean, he is really developing a good rapport with Jacoby Brissette. So I'm with Erickson. I'd probably sit Pittman out of that group. Okay.
Andrew Erickson
I mean, I think that he's the lowest ranked in, I mean he's lowest ranked in ecr. So like, even if you know Marvin Harrison comes back, you probably play Shakir then.
Scott Bogman
Yeah.
Andrew Erickson
Michael Pittman's the guy that's ranked last.
Scott Bogman
I do, I have Jameson one spot ahead of Michael Pittman in my rankings as well. But Michael Pittman is one of those guys where you look at his ranking this week and you go, what's he doing down? Oh, they're playing the Houston Texans. Yeah. Okay. Yep. And then you don't really mess with them. I think that was kind of how I saw Pittman this week anyway, so.
Caller/Listener
The only thing that makes me nervous about Jameson is because of that donut that he gave me last week.
Andrew Erickson
I mean, he's given donuts before. This is nothing new. This is the JMO experience. You gotta ride the donuts to get the big games.
Scott Bogman
Just.
Caller/Listener
Okay.
Andrew Erickson
Part of the process. And if you get too ping pongy, you're gonna miss out on the spike again. I, I get it. It sucks when he puts up a donut, but this is the first donut.
Scott Bogman
He's the Maryland of wide receivers. If you don't, if you can't handle me at my worst. Is that what it is, Eric?
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, basically. Because look, week seven donut weeks 9, 10, 11 wide receiver 12 wide receiver 3 wide receiver 5. Like it's just, it's just part of the position with ride receivers. So she's got a plan.
Scott Bogman
Boom bus.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah.
Caller/Listener
My, my only like copium with Michael Wilson is even if Harrison comes back. I think Harrison would just steal the touches from Dortch. But I may be wrong.
Andrew Erickson
No, no, I, I, I agree with that. I think that it would be Dorch that kind of fades out completely with Harrison kind of filling in those gaps.
Scott Bogman
Harrison is quickly going to throw number three in Arizona. Right. Like it's Trey McBride is one we know that for sure. It'll be interesting to see the targets between Harrison and Wilson, but, you know, if he doesn't get. If he comes back and plays this week and he doesn't get as many, everyone's going to be like, well, it was the first week off injury, whatever. I don't know. I don't think it is. You know, he is just down in the pecking order.
Caller/Listener
I actually have both McBride and. And Wilson, so it's been pretty great, actually.
Scott Bogman
Yeah.
Caller/Listener
Yeah. Last week was good. Last week was good, even though neither of them scored a touchdown, but.
Andrew Erickson
Oh, well.
Caller/Listener
And then my. My QB issue is right now I have Purdy and I have Brissette, so I made the mistake of not starting Brissette last week and because Purdy played well his first game back off injury. So I'm going to start him this week because I don't think Birdie's going to have a good game this week, but I may be wrong.
Andrew Erickson
Oh, all right. No, you're. No, let me stop you there. You're playing Brissette. You're playing percent don't think twice about it, man. Don't.
Caller/Listener
Yeah, no, I'm not.
Andrew Erickson
I'm not.
Caller/Listener
I'm definitely starting Brissette.
Andrew Erickson
He's. He's.
Caller/Listener
He's doing really well, and he has a. I think he has a pretty good matchup.
Andrew Erickson
And.
Caller/Listener
But my problem is the bye week for Purdy, right? So I. I'm losing Purdy and cmc because I have CMC as my number one running back. So. And that. That week is my most critical week. If I lose it, I'm out, basically. So. And I'm right now like 54% maybe favored. So I. It's either I. I risk Brissette and he's going up, up against the Rams, or I pick up a. A third QB right now in preparation for that week. And I have a. I have a decent amount of options to pick up.
Andrew Erickson
What are they?
Caller/Listener
I'll tell you right now.
Andrew Erickson
Or. Who are they?
Caller/Listener
I got Bo Nix. Yeah, I. I got Jared Goff.
Andrew Erickson
Who.
Caller/Listener
Is going up against Dallas actually that week.
Scott Bogman
Pick up golf.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah. Yeah, you can just drop 30. Yeah, you don't need. Just drop him for golf.
Scott Bogman
Yep.
Caller/Listener
Wait, wait.
Andrew Erickson
Hold on. Hold on, guys. Hold on, guys.
Scott Bogman
We don't need to.
Andrew Erickson
Hold on.
Scott Bogman
We don't need more options. Golf is good. Is that Prescott available?
Andrew Erickson
Yeah. Right.
Caller/Listener
No, no, no, no.
Scott Bogman
Then just pick up.
Caller/Listener
It's golf. Baker Mayfield. Bo Nicks.
Scott Bogman
Baker Mayfield, too. Yeah, it's golf.
Caller/Listener
It's Golf against golf.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, they're secondary like, they made improvements to the defense. Quinn Williams with Kenny Clark, it looks dangerous to stop. The run over shown back is great for them. They didn't fix the secondary, so. Yeah.
Andrew Erickson
Drop, drop Pie. He's playing the Browns, then he's on a buy. No one's going to want him, especially if Goffs on the waivers. Yep.
Scott Bogman
Bring it back.
Andrew Erickson
Okay. All right.
Caller/Listener
All right.
Andrew Erickson
All right.
Caller/Listener
Well, rest of the season, how do you guys feel about the Rams as. As defensive team?
Scott Bogman
Yeah, they've been awesome.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah. I mean, they're probably going to win the super bowl, so, like, it's there. Just a frigging juggernaut on offense, on defense.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, they look great right now. Absolutely.
Caller/Listener
I got the ranch and I have Landman. You think I should just ride that out the rest of the season? If I make it?
Scott Bogman
Yes, I think so, too.
Caller/Listener
Okay.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah.
Scott Bogman
All right.
Caller/Listener
Thank you, guys. Thank you, guys. Appreciate your advice, you guys.
Andrew Erickson
Thanks, Richie.
Scott Bogman
Take it easy, my friend. All right. Good questions. Absolutely. J. Chow, what's up, Jay Chow? How are we doing, my friend? Jchel, you there? Going once, going twice. All right, raise your hand again. J. Chow, we'll come back to you. Zach, you did.
Andrew Erickson
You did.
Scott Bogman
We figure it out.
Andrew Erickson
Hello? Can you hear me?
Scott Bogman
We got you. What's going on?
Andrew Erickson
Awesome.
Caller/Listener
I wanted to ask two questions. One, my full PPR league.
Andrew Erickson
I need to choose between Neil More and Matchy.
Scott Bogman
Neil More.
Andrew Erickson
Which more Neil? DJ.
Scott Bogman
Oh, man. This is a good question. Yeah, I think it's Neil. I think just take those guaranteed touches.
Andrew Erickson
Yep.
Caller/Listener
We're in, like, a race for highest points, and you get paid for that. And we're all within, like, two points.
Andrew Erickson
Of each other, I think. Or might be better for me there. Yeah.
Scott Bogman
Well, then you'll get it with Neil for volume for touches. If Camara's okay, it's going to be out, so.
Andrew Erickson
All right.
Caller/Listener
The second question was for my Dynasty league. With Higgins out, I'm wondering if I should flex Yosevich or Washington, the one from Miami.
Andrew Erickson
But we do part return yards in that league.
Scott Bogman
Malik Washington.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah. What. What has he been scoring in in the format? Like, I'm just not familiar. I'm not as familiar with the punt.
Caller/Listener
Return yardage in between, like, 9 and.
Andrew Erickson
16 points, like, pretty consistently. I mean, I think that's something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Scott Bogman
I don't know.
Caller/Listener
With Burrows coming back and Egan's being out, if Yoshi's gonna be, like, a.
Andrew Erickson
Pretty good start or not or. I mean, I think that. I think what we got from Yoshi last week was. Is like prototypical, like what we would expect. So like not amazing and then just depends if he catches a touchdown or not. Is like it kind of makes her breaks if it's like a high upside play. Because they, I mean, they were really trying to get Gasecki involved last week. I was like, oh, no. Like this is like full on Mike Gasecki mode going on right here in the first quarter for the Bengals. And we've seen pretty, pretty strong splits when T. Higgins missed like last year, Mike Gasecki had like these monster games. So also it could be a lot.
Scott Bogman
Of hunts for the Saints. Right?
Andrew Erickson
Saints. Yeah. Yeah, that was really good point. Yeah. So I think with the, with the punt, I think it's close enough just like straight up that you're then adding in the punt return. I think that does very much in favor of Malik.
Scott Bogman
Agreed.
Andrew Erickson
Okay. Also, actually, maybe I guess the third question you kind of.
Caller/Listener
You're saying you had a bit of trepidation with Burrow this week?
Andrew Erickson
Joe Burrow?
Scott Bogman
A bit, yep.
Andrew Erickson
I'm sorry.
Caller/Listener
In my league, unfortunately, I have to choose between him and Brock Rudy.
Andrew Erickson
That's the one. That's the one guy I would play Burrow.
Scott Bogman
That was the example that he gave.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah.
Scott Bogman
If you didn't hear that party, it's like, I mean, if it's Birdie, I'll play Burrow.
Andrew Erickson
That's the only guy. Like, that's. So, yeah, you have convinced me as. As much as I have basically piled on Joe Burrow on the show. You have give me an answer where the answer is yes. Start Joe Burrow.
Caller/Listener
It's the one time it works. All right, thanks, guys.
Scott Bogman
I appreciate it. Of course, my friend.
Andrew Erickson
So. So for your sake, I hope that I'm wrong about him being a bad start this week.
Scott Bogman
Fingers crossed. J. Chow is back. What's going on, J. Chow? How are we doing, my friend? Nope, still can't hear you. Sorry, Jay Chow. You can put your question in the chat. We'll try to get some of these here in the chat at the end. Let me just scroll back through and see if we have some questions up here. Thank you, Dredis, for helping people out with the microphone today and for posting this Madden thing. Really appreciate your help here. I don't know if I'm seeing it. I think it's just a lot of comments. Here we go. Here's one from J. Spar. Juan Johnson, Hunter, Henry or Schultz. Full ppr. What do you think there, Erickson?
Andrew Erickson
Is this in the Chat.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, I see it's way up. It's at like 1:30.
Andrew Erickson
Sorry. Okay. What. Who are the Titans?
Scott Bogman
Joanne Johnson, sorry, Juwan Johnson, Hunter Henry and Dalton Schultz.
Andrew Erickson
I think it's under Henry for me again if, if they got to get the ball out quick tight end, underneath option. I mean, I'm really interested to see what the pat's offense does to adjust without Campbell Jared Wilson, but you know, we would think that that means more quick passes, so less splash pace. Splash plays for guys like Booty Mack Hollins and more underneath stuff which benefits guys like Diggs and Hunter Henry. So I think that you'd stay in the flames. Henry was also really good last week. I know it was the Bengals, but I think that they continue to ride him. So Henry, for me, what if I.
Scott Bogman
Told you that the Indianapolis Colts are allowing the second most fantasy points to tight ends? Would that change your mind with Schultz at all?
Andrew Erickson
You definitely piqued my interest.
Scott Bogman
Right now they're averaging 6.4 receptions allowed, 72.2 yards to tight ends and half a touchdown. So the touchdown is kind of. They're not the Bengals. Bengals are the only team averaging over a touchdown allowed to tight ends all year, so. But the receptions are there against the Colts because their linebacker has not been playing great.
Andrew Erickson
No, that is a good point because Schultz, again, I'm trying to not take really much stock into what happened last week because the Bills are just this like elite team against tight ends.
Scott Bogman
Right.
Andrew Erickson
They basically shut down everybody. So I wouldn't like don't like downgrade Schultz like too substantially so actually in full ppr.
Scott Bogman
Let me see where the Giants are.
Andrew Erickson
They're like, they're kind of like mediocre. They also have like a ton of injuries in their, in their secondary. Yeah, I guess it's like, I guess it depends. Like is it going to be Davis Mills again? Because Schultz has been on heater with Mills, like been a top 10 tight end in three straight weeks with Davis Mills.
Scott Bogman
I don't really trust Schultz on a week to week basis and I feel like the quarterback issue makes us go, okay, is this going to be Higgins? Is this going in? Higgins is getting more snaps as well, so. And so is Noel and Kirk was great last week as well. So I just think there, there are fewer options to get the ball. So I think I would rather go with Hunter Henry. So. But yeah, I just wanted to throw that.
Andrew Erickson
I think Henry. Yeah, but again, to your point, I think that again, if you are. You got Schultz and you're kind of are you concerned about last week? I wouldn't be concerned about him busting last week because it was a really tough matchup. And like you said, the Colts is a much better matchup, so he should be fine. But I think. I think Henry probably has more upside test to Drake, man.
Scott Bogman
And then he asked us to rank the flex options. Pierce saw Higgins, Strange and Trey Tucker. I'm going to assume this is Jaden Higgins because T. Higgins is down. So Pierce all Jaden Higgins, Strange and Trey Tucker.
Andrew Erickson
Higgins and Strange at the top. I mean, dude, Trey Tucker sees like.
Scott Bogman
So many targets and Pierce all doesn't.
Andrew Erickson
Like, you can't start. You can't start Pierce. All right? He hasn't been consistent enough, so you can't start him. Higgins has been pretty solid. The Colts have good corners. But if Sauce is going to be on Nico, then that should give Jaden Higgins some opportunities. And he's been. He's been pretty good over the last couple weeks. So Higgins Strange, it's full ppr. He's kind of been the guy for Trevor Lawrence. It's the Titans. I think Strange is pretty solid as well. I mean, it's like Higgins versus Trey Tucker.
Scott Bogman
Ugh.
Andrew Erickson
Like, I'm just like, like, I mean, Tucker had 10 targets last week. That's the thing. Like, and there's no one else besides Brock Bowers. But is the Raiders offense. The Chargers are pretty tough defense. I think I'd probably go with Higgins and Strange. So agreeing with Jay Sparks leans here. I'm not. I mean, I'm not convinced. I can't like come up with a better argument to be like, oh, well, it's obviously Trey Tucker as the play here. Yeah, I know. He had like, he had a boatload of air yards last week. More like yards. Because it's just like Geno Smith's just like chucking is.
Scott Bogman
Dude, he had him wide open twice. That could have been 150 yards and two scores for Tucker.
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Andrew Erickson
So then maybe, maybe it is Tucker. Then it's like again, this is why. This is like the typical buy low, like air. Air yards model thing. Right? Like the guy gets like 200 air yards and the next week he goes off.
Scott Bogman
So I do think that's a ridiculous. Like, you know, you would have to have a different quarterback for those to come to fruition.
Andrew Erickson
Right?
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Scott Bogman
Like Geno Smith overthrows guys constantly Kelly, so.
Andrew Erickson
But they did get Chip Kelly. They axed him. So he's gone. Got Greg Olson coming in here. Where do I have these guys ranked? They're Back to back in ecr. Where do I have Higgins? I mean I got Trey Tucker pretty strongly. I mean he had 10 targets last week. Like he's got eight plus targets back to back weeks.
Scott Bogman
I got pretty steady top of this list.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I think it's. I think you gotta go Tucker. You just kind of, kind of like close your eyes, press the button. Trust spreadsheets.
Scott Bogman
Just take the tussin stink. Mangioni asks Nicks over Lamar.
Andrew Erickson
No.
Scott Bogman
No. So it's still okay.
Andrew Erickson
I would rather just.
Scott Bogman
I'd rather be go down with the.
Andrew Erickson
Show a week too early on Lamar than a week too late. I do it. I cannot stomach a Lamar 35 point game against the Bengals and I have to watch the entire thing on Thanksgiving night. I could not do it.
Scott Bogman
I want to go especially because, you know, I don't want to have to watch this nonsense because you know how.
Andrew Erickson
Bad that defense can be. And look, last week again Lamar banged up his toe, says he's feeling much better and there were opportunities for him to have a much better game. Last week he almost scored a rushing touchdown and Mark Andrews, like he had a red zone touchdown. He just didn't catch it. So I think that there are some things to be optimistic about. Maybe he never gets healthy. That's always a possibility. But once he is quote unquote healthy, I mean you, you see the guy that scores 30 points per game in fantasy.
Scott Bogman
So a couple more here. I think one from Fernando and then we' get to J. Chow to end us out here. Fernando ask full ppr, Pittman or Wilson? I think it's Wilson this week, right?
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, Michael Wilson.
Scott Bogman
Also Texas still worth the start this week. Jags, Falcons, Dolphins are available. I think I just roll with the Texans. The defense looks incredible right now, so.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, and I don't think that we're. We're not afraid of Daniel Jones.
Caller/Listener
Bogs.
Andrew Erickson
I don't think.
Scott Bogman
No, I mean, listen, maybe they score, but he could still turn all over six times, right? They may.
Andrew Erickson
They made Josh Allen look like Daniel Jones last week. I mean, I'm obviously being tongue in cheek. Daniel Jones has obviously played much better this season, but I don't think that he's a.
Scott Bogman
Six turnovers against Pittsburgh, so.
Andrew Erickson
Except for quarterback. A quarterback to be feared. Especially if the Texans open up with like a lead or something. You see, Dan Jones can get rattled at times and then that creates opportunities for turnovers. I mean, the Texans are so good defensively that I mean, I don't want to say they're like matchup Proof. But I think they always have a. Like they're live to score fantasy points in any matchup even against like the best offenses in the NFL. So yeah, roll the Texans keep them, especially with their playoff schedule. So, so good. I was so bummed. They were on the waivers in one of my leagues and I just missed out on them. I was so pissed. It's like, oh, man. So I'd pick up the Buccaneers instead.
Scott Bogman
Oh, and then they got torn.
Andrew Erickson
Dude, with their playing Jacoby, man, they'll get 50 pass attempts. I'm hoping for some interceptions, maybe some sacks.
Scott Bogman
Dude, I had Zion. I had Zion McCollum last week in my IDP league thinking, man, Devonte is going to torch him. He's going to have something.
Andrew Erickson
Oh, dude. He didn't have tackles because they were.
Scott Bogman
All in the end zone.
Andrew Erickson
So I was getting cooked, man. I felt so bad.
Scott Bogman
Cook like Thanksgiving dinner. J. Chow asked us. He put his lineup in here and he's asking about a flex specifically if Genti misses this week. Right now he's got Makoni and flex the bench. He's got Genti. Obviously he was questionable to play. I think if he plays, he slides in that out Pierce spot. But would you play dk C Rod? Like if. If Gen Z doesn't play Pierce saw C Rod. Dk Alec Pierce. Is it Alec Pierce for sure?
Andrew Erickson
Probably. It's probably dk. I know he's got this ankle injury thing, so we gotta.
Scott Bogman
No Shamira dk.
Andrew Erickson
Oh, sorry. Sorry, sorry. No. Yeah, Pierce.
Scott Bogman
It appears pretty easy. Yeah, he's got Manangai as well. You throw him on guy over Pierce?
Andrew Erickson
No. I don't want Bears running backs this week, to be honest. On the road against the Philadelphia Eagles, I don't love that spot. So I think. I think I'm cool with leaving those guys on my bench.
Scott Bogman
He said, who should I drop Panero for? He's got Parker, Washington and Mechi on waivers. I think I want Metchie because Brian Thomas is going to come back.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, that's what I'm concerned about. Washington just came back.
Scott Bogman
Right.
Andrew Erickson
So yeah, eventually the like the Parker Washington experiment might end soon or. Or else Brian Thomas Jr. Is never going to get targeted again. Like I mean when we're talking about. Okay, like lock of the week. If Brian Thomas Jr. Plays, there's no way his. His under over reception is four and a half. There's no way he's catching five passes. It's not happening.
Scott Bogman
One more question. Who deflects if Devonte is out this week in Another league. He's got Wilson and on guy, QJ Higgins, Sampson and Videl. Videl and Michael Wilson back.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah, those two. We still don't know that Hampton's gonna play, so.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, yeah, I think if. Yeah, if no Hampton, I think Vidal. So what are the chances Aiden o' Connell replaces Gino now that he's off IR and practicing in full? I think they would go to Kenny Pickett before they go back to Aiden o', Connell, don't you?
Andrew Erickson
I mean, Gino hasn't played great, but, I mean, I think that Chip Kelly was like, a lot of the problems with this team. Like, like, I don't. I don't think putting o' Connell back there is going to magically fix, like, a broken offensive line. And like, the play calling we do is so bad. Just terrible. Whatever. They were saying, like, the one of the tackles was getting, like, no help, like, at all last week. And that's why he, like, he got sacked 10 times.
Scott Bogman
You have no Mississippi. Yeah, yeah.
Andrew Erickson
So I don't. I don't. I think Aiden o' Connell is an interesting guy. I think that he's been kind of. Kind of underrated in his starts, but, I mean, maybe they do that to kind of evaluate him. But I wouldn't anticipate Gino, like, get straight up benched unless he just throws more interceptions. So it seems like the coaching staff is still pretty behind Gino, but then again, like Pete Carroll, is he really there for the end?
Scott Bogman
I don't know.
Andrew Erickson
So o', Connell, I think is like an interesting, like, super flex stash in some of these deeper leagues, especially in Dynasty. He shouldn't be on waivers, but besides that, I think it's probably going to be Geno for most of the season.
Scott Bogman
I think so, too. And I think they'll get Mr. Outside higher for next year. I'm not nearly as high on Aiden o'. Connell. I think that's why they traded for Pickett is part of the reason. Obviously o' Connell went down, but I just. I'm not Aiden o' Connell believer at all. Dredis asked IDP question between Miles Garrett or Jack Campbell, both great options, it's got to be Myles Garrett. Like, the dude is getting four or five sacks a week. Way higher floor for Jack Campbell. So if you need the floor, take the tackles, which at Campbell specifically against Green Bay, they're going to run up the middle a lot, so Jack Campbell is going to be involved. But if it's a swing play at all, this IDP spot, it's got to be Myles Garrett. If you can play both of those. I want to play them both. Garrett is going crazy right now.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah. IDP is. So this is such a curious thing, because it's like, dude, Miles Garrett's gonna break the sack record, and he may not even be the most valuable player in IDP leagues. It's just like, come on, we got a different scoring. No, no, no, no. I know, I know. It's just like, we. We have to make it so that. No, if this guy's gonna break the sack record, he has to be valued way higher. We got to change the scoring to make sure that he's getting more points than everybody else.
Scott Bogman
Well, regardless of the scoring, he is the highest value because of rpv, right?
Andrew Erickson
Yeah.
Scott Bogman
You cannot. There's no other lineman that's anywhere close.
Andrew Erickson
Yeah.
Scott Bogman
I will say next close is. And he's not as a.
Andrew Erickson
An IDP comment, because I do play in two leagues with IDPs. Guess who my starting. Guess who my starting defensive back was? Who? Is it the guy that punched Juwan Jennings in the.
Scott Bogman
Trevor.
Andrew Erickson
Yep. So, like, I'm watching the game because I'm like, all right, Morgan's getting some tackles. Like, this is great. And then at the end of the game, I see him punch Joanne Jennings. I'm like, dude. And then I get, like, the notification on Tuesday. Trevor Moring Sus.
Scott Bogman
Yeah, well, imagine how I felt because I had Jamar Chase this week and couldn't start him and beat in two spots. So, yeah, don't spit and punch on people. It's not that hard, so figure it out. But appreciate everyone asking questions and hanging out with us today. Remember, you can follow us your Twitter. Erickson.
Andrew Erickson
Give it out at Andrew Erickson, Underscore.
Scott Bogman
Andrew Erickson Underscore. And at Bogman Sports for myself. We will be back. Same, I think normal schedule next week, right? Thursday at 2 Eastern. Correct. So just a little early for the holiday here. So wishing everybody a great holiday, everybody. Get healthy, Erickson. Take your time off, drink all the tussin you need, and get better, my friend. You too, Dredis. On the mend, everybody. Let's get better. So that will do it for us this week, and we'll see you guys next week. Take it easy, everybody.
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Theme: Gearing Up For Fantasy Playoffs, Navigating Tough Week 13 Decisions, and Listener Q&A
Hosts: Scott Bogman & Andrew Erickson (FantasyPros)
This episode focuses on critical Week 13 start/sit decisions as fantasy managers prepare for playoff pushes. Bogman and Erickson dive into nuanced player value shifts due to injuries, quarterback changes, and depth chart adjustments. They answer Discord listener questions live—with detailed takes on tricky WR/RB choices, tight end darts, playoff handcuffing, and defensive streamers, all while dissecting top narrative players (Joe Burrow, Taysom Hill, Lamar Jackson, etc.). The tone is fun, blunt, and analytical, with some playful venting and inside jokes throughout.
“If Marvin Harrison Jr. comes back, you probably just bench Michael Wilson... But compared to those other options, you probably can't do it. I got him right next to Olave. I don’t think you’re taking an insane risk if you bench Olave... attached to a rookie QB playing Miami, which isn’t great.”
“It’s possible Drake Maye efficiency tails off... the cluster injuries up front are a concern... But matchups are still good rest of season. Diggs’ routes dipped with Booty back—didn’t expect such a big change. Likely a mid-range WR2 now, not WR1.”
“Hard for me not to play Wan’Dale. Diggs might need to move down—rookie QB, on the road, Miami D sneaky vs. WR... Might fade Olave—the least likely to burn you.”
“For me, it’s Waddle. You should’ve known better than to ask me to sit Waddle!”
“Not over Walker. Not as a home favorite vs Vikings... Walker played his highest snap share last week, coach is bullish... Walker could see 20+ carries.”
“This one is really easy for me. I think it’s Bo Nix... I don’t understand Joe Burrow as QB8 in ECR. He’s coming off so much missed time. His last three week ones: QB28, 30, 31. Missing T. Higgins, on the road... Commanders are terrible.”
On benching Olave for Michael Wilson:
“If you’re trying to jam in Michael Wilson... Olave is ranked higher in ECR, but I can get behind the case.”
(Erickson, 03:01)
On Joe Burrow ECR (lengthy rant):
“I just, I don’t understand the confidence that oh yeah, he’s going to drop back in and fire on all cylinders...”
(Erickson, 24:34 and ongoing to ~29:00)
On Taysom Hill’s boom-or-bust:
“Never wrong, Boggs. Just early.”
(Erickson, 10:25)
On Jameson Williams:
“He’s given donuts before. It’s the JMO experience. You gotta ride the donuts to get the big games!”
(Erickson, 49:09)
On defensive streamers, playoffs:
“Texans — elite defense with elite matchups, it’s the perfect storm.”
(Erickson, 40:00)
This episode is a goldmine for last-minute Week 13 debates, offering sharp, actionable insights on every position—especially for those in competitive playoff races. The hosts’ frank (sometimes fiery) opinions, data context, and honest tilt make this a must-listen (or read) for anyone aiming to optimize start/sit choices and lineup construction as the fantasy playoffs approach.