The Herd with Colin Cowherd — "FantasyPros - The Extra Point: Rest-Of-Season Evaluations, Tough Weekend Decisions, and Chat Q&A" (Ep. 1813)
Date: November 2, 2025
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Overview
This episode of FantasyPros - The Extra Point features hosts Chris Welsh and Andrew Erickson guiding listeners through live Discord Q&A, focused on rest-of-season fantasy football strategies, challenging start/sit and trade decisions (primarily in dynasty leagues), and listener dilemmas ahead of Week 9. With their usual mix of sharp analysis and banter, Welsh and Erickson serve up actionable advice across a broad range of team scenarios—all fueled by direct audience engagement.
Main Discussion Points and Insights
1. Halloween Banter & Ice Breakers
- [00:35-04:17]
- The hosts share Halloween candy preferences (Reese’s is Erickson’s go-to, Welsh mourns the loss of Fifth Avenue bars) and their worst trick-or-treat finds (hand sanitizer, fruit).
- "My sister is allergic to peanuts. So growing up I had to throw out basically like 67% of my Halloween candy..." — Andrew Erickson [01:34]
- "First house... basket of hand sanitizer. And we're like, all right..." — Chris Welsh [03:15]
- Sets a relaxed, communal Discord vibe for the Q&A session.
- The hosts share Halloween candy preferences (Reese’s is Erickson’s go-to, Welsh mourns the loss of Fifth Avenue bars) and their worst trick-or-treat finds (hand sanitizer, fruit).
2. Dynasty League Trade Evaluations
Most of the episode centers on live trade and roster questions, often weighing rest-of-season versus long-term value.
A. Buying Josh Jacobs for a 1st-Round Pick
- [06:13-06:56]
- Listener asks if overpaid for Josh Jacobs in dynasty.
- Both agree it's the market price for a "win now" team with championship aspirations.
- "You still want to try to win at the end of the day. So yeah, go for it." — Andrew Erickson [06:36]
- Listener asks if overpaid for Josh Jacobs in dynasty.
B. Drake London’s Injury and Dynasty Value
- [07:01-09:39]
- Debates whether to "sell" London due to recent hip injury and inconsistent QB play.
- Both hesitant to move London, point out his youth, target volume, and that injuries haven't been a problem.
- "He still can be an alpha wide receiver... the upside is still there with [Penix]." — Andrew Erickson [08:33]
- "Questionable quarterback play, but...he's still kind of the alpha." — Chris Welsh [09:03]
- Debates whether to "sell" London due to recent hip injury and inconsistent QB play.
C. How to Approach Difficult Trade Negotiations
- [10:30-12:57]
- Listener struggles to trade for Chase Brown as opponent wants an elite WR or top TE in return.
- Advice is to avoid overpaying and not force trades that don't align roster needs.
- "There are just some trades that just aren’t going to happen...don’t overpay." — Andrew Erickson [11:17]
- Consider pivoting to similar RB targets like Jalen Warren using trade finder tools.
- Listener struggles to trade for Chase Brown as opponent wants an elite WR or top TE in return.
D. Navigating Inactive or Trade-Resistant Leagues
- [13:42-15:57]
- If unable to trade in a stagnant league, don’t force moves; keep lines open and fish for activity, but avoid desperation trades.
- "I'd rather stand pat than do a lopsided trade that moves outside of my favor because I have a need." — Chris Welsh [14:20]
- "The best trades are ones that...help you, help me. Bang, let's make a trade." — Andrew Erickson [15:20]
- If unable to trade in a stagnant league, don’t force moves; keep lines open and fish for activity, but avoid desperation trades.
E. Other Dynasty Injury Solutions
- [17:05]
- If desperate at RB, consider adding Elijah Mitchell (KC) due to Pacheco injury.
3. Start/Sit and Waiver Dilemmas
A. Weekly Start/Sit Decisions
- [17:29-19:02], [48:16-48:47]
- Repeated themes: Betting on RBs facing weak defenses (e.g. Manangai vs. Bengals), but also playing the workload/receiving angle.
- "Just play running backs against the Bengals." — Andrew Erickson [17:57]
- Dowdle vs. Manangai: Erickson leans Manangai for matchup; Welsh sees RICO's upside in passing.
B. Waiver Wire and Roster Drops
- [19:29-21:19]
- Dropping Rashard Smith for Trey Benson considered; consensus is to prioritize RB with potential workload boost, but be mindful of wideout volatility.
- Packers’ WRs: Golden has flashes, but lacks alpha upside for consistency.
- Dropping Rashard Smith for Trey Benson considered; consensus is to prioritize RB with potential workload boost, but be mindful of wideout volatility.
C. How to Upgrade RB When Lacking Depth
- [27:37-29:14]
- Dobbins + WR2 to get a back like Henry or James Cook: worth a try, but don’t overpay for Cook in particular. Target Henry if Cook's unavailable.
- "Shoot for Cook. If it doesn't work, settle for Henry." — Andrew Erickson [29:09]
- Dobbins + WR2 to get a back like Henry or James Cook: worth a try, but don’t overpay for Cook in particular. Target Henry if Cook's unavailable.
D. Dealing With Must-Win Weeks
- [30:34-34:37]
- For bubble teams, don’t gut the roster's stars for “depth” — winning hinges on elite pieces going off, not lineup fillers.
- "Usually it's one or two guys every week that makes you either win or lose your lineup." — Andrew Erickson [31:43]
- For bubble teams, don’t gut the roster's stars for “depth” — winning hinges on elite pieces going off, not lineup fillers.
4. Actionable Tactical Advice
A. How To Structure Trades
- [57:24-57:52]
- Rather than targeting a specific player, target managers who have a glaring need (e.g. TE) and offer that strength with an RB for their best surplus RB.
B. What To Do With Injured or Unproductive Players
- [42:31-44:37]
- Complex debate: Is stashing an upside RB (Harvey) more valuable than holding a short-term TD-dependent option (Kareem Hunt)?
- "Harvey's only path is JK Dobbins getting hurt...he'll never have volume workload, like, it's just...he'll never overtake Dobbins." — Chris Welsh [44:37]
- For some, drop Hunt if not needed this week, prioritize long-term upside (Erickson). For others, Hunt’s red-zone role is irreplaceable if Pacheco is sidelined.
- Complex debate: Is stashing an upside RB (Harvey) more valuable than holding a short-term TD-dependent option (Kareem Hunt)?
C. Tiered Approach To Tight End Upgrades
- [48:46-52:47]
- If depth allows, try to condense lesser WRs (Worthy, Gadsden) for more stable TE play (target a buy-low on Bowers or Gadsden).
- But avoid sacrificing core pieces (“Don’t do a trade like: I’ll give you Nico, you give me Jake Ferguson.”)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- "Trades shouldn't always have to be really, really hard to make... sometimes the best trades are ones that it's like a no brainer." — Andrew Erickson [15:20]
- "I'd rather stand pat than do a lopsided trade...because I have a need." — Chris Welsh [14:20]
- "If Pacheco is out, Kareem Hunt's the start over Dowdle." — Chris Welsh [47:22]
- "He still can be an alpha wide receiver...the upside is still there with Pennix." — Andrew Erickson [08:33]
- "Who is the Denver Broncos starting running back week 15, 16, 17? ... I'm a thousand percent J.K. Dobbins. It is him." — Chris Welsh [44:48]
Key Timestamps
- 00:35-04:17 — Halloween banter and listener engagement
- 06:13-06:56 — Josh Jacobs as a championship play in dynasty
- 07:01-09:39 — Drake London hold/sell debate
- 10:30-12:57 — When to stop trade negotiations; pivot ideas
- 13:42-15:57 — How to operate in trade-inactive leagues
- 19:29-21:19 — Waiver and drop debates
- 27:37-29:14 — Crafting ladder trades for RB upgrades
- 30:34-34:37 — When to risk stars for depth in must-win scenarios
- 42:31-44:37 — The great Hunt vs. Harvey RB debate
- 48:46-52:47 — TE upgrade strategies and specific trade targets
- 57:24-57:52 — Trading TE+RB for positional upgrades: Process first, target second
Flow and Tone
The episode strikes a conversational, supportive tone, encouraging listeners to trust their evaluations and not force moves for the sake of activity. Welsh and Erickson are candid (and sometimes playful), but always return to actionable, process-driven advice: focus on roster construction fit, be patient, and leverage trade value based on league context.
Takeaways for Listeners Who Missed the Episode
- Don’t force trades that aren’t a roster fit — if it feels unnatural, it likely is.
- Prioritize elite difference-makers over depth in must-win or playoff chases for both redraft and dynasty.
- Target trade partners with positional needs, not just specific players; start negotiations from their weaknesses, not your desires.
- Be wary of overreacting to short-term injuries or poor performances—many “holds” (Drake London, A.J. Brown, etc.) can reward patience.
- In stagnant leagues, stay proactive but don’t compromise your core for marginal upgrades.
The hosts close with a reminder to find community and more advice in the FantasyPros Discord, and a final light-hearted bit about classic candies and avoiding “hand sanitizer houses” come Halloween.
