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Katie Couric
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Katie Couric
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I'm Jake Hofer and this is back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focused, thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access? Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand. Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. The volume what is Going on, everybody. How are we doing? I'm John and this is actually gonna be a good little Golo podcast because I'm taking a break today from football. We will be back tomorrow talking training camps and all the stories. We just we did a podcast yesterday on football as well. So I did want to talk about the PGA Tour playoffs. Cam Young finally wins a tournament. Want to talk about why that's kind of symbolic of where the sport is. I am flying to Chicago on Friday and actually staying with Coward and we are going to live Chicago on Saturday, so hopefully talk some football with Phil Mickelson. Bryson DeChambeau, fellow content creator so we will be on property on Saturday in Chicago. And yeah, I've been saying forever we need to get Phil because we're, I think we're doing some interviews. Not exactly buttoned up and dialed into what we are doing. But I want to talk football with Phil and have some early bets that I'm pretty fired up on. We talked about them yesterday from a divisional standpoint. We're also going to do a little mailbag on the Show. So @GoloPod. @GoloPod is the Instagram fire in those DMS and get your questions answered on the show. We separate the football one to my regular Instagram. I set up a separate golf one at Golopod. Any questions you have, just fire in those DMs. So yeah, that will be the game plan today. But other than that, if you listen on Collins feed, make sure you subscribe to the podcast feed three and out and go low sit on the same podcast feed. We also have a YouTube channel where all of our content goes as well. So go check that out. But first, you know, I got to tell you, my friends, my partners in the official ticketing app of this podcast, Game Time, best in the business. Download the Game Time app right now. It doesn't get any easier to use. What do you want to do? You want to go to a football game? We're less than a month away from college, way less than a month away from college and probably about, I think week one. Cowboys Eagles, Thursday night is September 4th, so we're less than a month away from the NFL. And September 5th, pretty sure is Chargers Chiefs in Brazil, so on YouTube. So we buckle up for that as well. Very, very excited. We got football season right around the corner. Any game you want to go to, concerts, comedy shows, you name it. 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When you think about golf and tennis, like the really famous players making all the money are the guys winning the most. Tiger, Phil, Nadal, Djokovic, Federer. Right. Pete Sampras. But there are the occasional outliers, like Andre Agassi's career, if you just put it parallel. Pete Sampras doesn't look the same, but he was a marketing machine. Rickie Fowler is not nearly as accomplished as his buddies Jordan Spieth and Justin Thomas, but he can push some product and he has printed cash. So you either got to be a great winner or, you know, the outlier version of a marketing machine. And then there are the occasional guys that come really close, come really close and, and then start winning like Xander or Tony Finau, and then accumulate a lot of money. Kim Young, who there's no disputing his talent. I got a good buddy named Scotty Raver. He is good buddies with Spencer Levine. And Spencer Levine played. I've played golf with him a couple of times in the Sacramento area. Played on the PGA Tour for a while. Is was one of the best amateur players in Northern California when I was in junior high and high school and now is on the Korn Ferry Tour, actually just finished second literally last week in Utah. And he told Scotty a story probably like four or five years ago that he was in an event, a Korn Ferry event with Cam Young in Chicago. This is before Cam Young had made the PGA Tour and it was the Sunday or the last day of this event, it might have been Saturday. Awful weather, rain, wind, and again, Spencer has played against Phil, has played against Tiger, has played against Rory, I mean Jim Fury, I mean Ernie Ells, you name it. Some of the best players in the history of the sport. And on this day, Cam Young shot like four or five under and everyone else, no one sniffed par. And he's like, this is one of the best rounds I've ever seen. Cam Young when he's on, and he was just last week when he's putting well, obviously I think his driver can get a little squirrely. There is no disputing. He is one of the elite, elite talents in the game of golf in program. I mean, you're talking Scotty, Rory Bryson in a pretty special category. Then you get to like the Xander types. Like Cam Young when he's on is in that type conversation, right? I mean, we're going to get some random guys probably on this Ryder Cup. Ben Griffin, really talented player playing really well. Like, just from a talent standpoint, Cam Young's more talented, right? He PGA Tour rookie of the year guy that's finished second a bunch of times. But golf in 2025, like, these guys are very, very lucky to be part of this product. You know, this is not the NBA or baseball where guys have been making a ton for a long, long time. Cam Young had made $20 million basically before he had won an event. And unlike Rickie Fowler or Andre Agassi, no one's calling Cam Young a big personality. If you watch the tgl, and I don't blame you if you didn't watch much of it was kind of boring after a while. But that was the thing on ESPN too, with the, you know, the track man with the big screen. Listen there. There's some Justin Thomas, pretty big personality. Billy Horschel, like the PGA tourism guys that will. Phil Mickelson, Bryson guys that are just can just kind of carry you when you put a mic and, you know, a camera in front of him. Cam Young is not that guy. There is not much there. I mean, he's bringing little to nothing to the table in terms of personality. Hell, he finally wins and which I admire shows absolutely zero emotion, excitement. I mean, very on brand for the guy and all these guys right now. And we get a lot of complaining a couple of years ago and Xander with the Ryder cup and the no hat Pat and we should be paid. And listen, I'm as pro capitalism as anyone you're going to meet, but there are certain situations where it's like, God, I mean, don't bite the hand that feeds you because this is in CBS is having a great year. Their golf is up 17% based on last year. They have some events that you're like, how is the John Deere Classic up? So now clearly they're factoring in streaming golf's popularity because it's pretty simple. Like, people often ask, like, why isn't hockey as big in America? Because kids like the reason. I watch football or basketball and love those sports. As a kid, like, I played basketball in junior high, I played football in high school. I love golf, but I played high school golf. People that play the sport in their youth, junior high, high school, obviously college, tend to gravitate to that sport as they age. In terms of a viewer and as a fan, it's easier to relate. Not that you can play like these guys, but if you play casual golf, if you are a golfer and you play once a week with your buddies on a Friday afternoon or Saturday or whatever, right? Over the course of the next couple years, you're going to be more inclined if you're flipping channels and see it on CBS or NBC, pro golfers teeing it up, because you're like, I play this too. What do they do? Right? So I think that part of what makes golf unique is the popularity has really grown. And clearly there's interest in the pro game. But, like, you don't even need to win to make huge cash, right? Obviously, Scotty Scheffler, who has accumulated a ton over the last couple years, well, he's been winning at a borderline historic Tiger like clip. You got Cam Young that hasn't won anything and it's just printing money. This is why people get so turned off when guys like Morikawa getting these spats like, Colin, relax, buddy. Like, life's not that bad. You got it pretty good. You play golf for a living. And relative to the viewership compared to these other sports, like, Cam Young is a good example, right? If he disappeared tomorrow, the sport would be unfazed. Like, they were really just a couple guys. Scotty Bryson, Rory, who really impact, like, true interest in the sport. You could Justin Thomas speak if he's good, it's a very small percentage. I'm comparing none of those guys to Tiger, but there was a reason this was one of the most watched Masters over the course of the last 20 years. When you factor in the story and the guy chasing the green jacket, it was Rory McIlroy. It would not have been the same if it had been Brooks Koepka or it had been. I was going to say Speed Xander. It just. It just would. There are certain people that, you know, just drink, bring more intrigue. And Cam Young is one of those guys that's kind of gliding or what's the term in, you know, in car racing, when you draft behind the guy, that's what a majority of these guys are doing. And it kind of leads us into the playoffs this week in Memphis. Brought to you by transfusion. Five Hour Energy Shots, a hole in one flavor sensation by now on 5Hour Energy.com. here's the thing. They've messed with the FedEx Club playoffs over the last couple years. It used to be you made the top 30. You're guaranteed, like, a minimum couple hundred thousand dollars, and the winner was getting, like, 18, $20 million. As of the last couple years, they've changed that and kind of split it in half. Like, Scotty just got a payment last week for $18 million. Because they didn't want it all to come down to the last week. They wanted to factor in, you know, the course of the year. Golf's different than basketball or football or whatever. They wanted to value the course of the season. So Scotty Scheffler literally just won $18 million based on his success throughout the season. Rory was 10, Sepstraka was six. Justin Thomas, some other guys, like, four and a half. So they are just handing out money right now. And listen, I got no problem with it. I said before I tweeted this out, like, on Sunday. I never understand why the broadcast is so uncomfortable leaning in. Like, the whole point of professional golf, like, in football, the whole point of the sport is to try to win the game and then make the playoffs and then win the Super Bowl. So it's not like, you don't need to talk about, like, hey, this guy's making $27 million to play left tackle. But in golf, the premise behind an event is I'm trying to win the event or top 10 to make the most money possible. I'm literally just playing golf for money, for prize money. That is. It's really that simple. And, like. And I get it, like, they never have, and they don't lean into this. Like, I don't understand, like, Jim Nance, like, this is pretty impressive. He just sets a new record $19.1 million worth of earnings before his first win. And if Tommy Fleetwood ever wins, he'll shatter that record. He's well over 30. But, like, that's interesting. And they never talk about that. And the whole playoffs like this the next three weeks. It's just this whole thing exists to just give out money to guys. And I think they felt like it was weighted too hard on these last couple weeks. If a Rory or Scottie had a great season and then they kind of shit the bed like they shouldn't be, I would say, docked that much. So they've tried to give out some, some early money. And now these next three weeks, like, this is a huge week because to make it to the top 50, which is next week, gets you into all the signature events next year. And the signature events are where the big payouts happen. So it's basically torn, turned into a tour of, of haves and have nots. And there everyone's had a million different opinions. And forever when it was 120 or 125 or whatever the number was. I kind of agree with the elite players of like, why are we so worried about the 95th guy? Why are we so worried about the 120th guy? Because in tennis they are 100% not worried about that. They are, they are dead set on taking care of the top five, six guys. And on any given, you know, era, it might be three or four, might be, might be less than five or six. Now golf's a little different than that. They go a little deeper, but like they have spent probably a outsized amount of energy worried about taking care of the back half of the guys. And the money that gets generated through television isn't really about those guys. Now I'm also a believer that one organic aspect of professional golf is it is cool on a given Sunday, when you have a top player, Scottie Scheffler, a Xander Schoffley, a Rory McElroy in a major, a Bryson DeChambeau, a Dustin Johnson, a Brooks Koepka, going up against more of a no name guy. I do think that's riveting. I do think that's really good television. And the more and more they whack those guys where everyone just becomes a famous person, it just, and it's just like you're not even welcome into our event, it gets a little less interesting. So I think they're in a tough spot. I'm very fascinated how Brian Rolapp, the new tour commissioner who is from the NFL, will he make aggressive changes? Does he even have the power to make aggressive changes? How involved is guys like Tiger woods, who I think in rightfully so, have a huge affinity for the way things used to be. Not necessarily from a financial standpoint, but just the purity of golf. And it's going to be really, really interesting where we go moving forward. But as we sit here right now, it goes 70, 50 to 30. Like the next three weeks, I would say, are not the most riveting in golf. And I don't get caught up in Worrying about like who's going to be the FedEx champion, who's going to win the Tour Championship, I don't really care. I view this more from like, how do we gamble on this? And it can be a little difficult because these are no cut events, smaller fields. I looked at the last couple of years at this event in Memphis, which is extremely hot. Obviously it's in the heart of the South. There is. I was in the car the other day and I listened. I was flipping around. I ended up on PGA Tour Radio and Wyndham Clark was calling it and he's played this event and he was saying that. Two things. One, it's, it's supposed to be like 95, 96 degrees with insane Southern humidity and zero wind. He's like, at least if there's a 10 mile wind at, you know, when you're playing southern courses in the summer, it cools you down a little bit. But there is zero wind. So this is tends to be a little bit of a birdie fest. No win the heat. It's almost like who can handle the, the amount of heat? So you got to like some guys from like Texas and Arizona in this event, but looking the last couple of years and they've played this event at this time. So these guys have been used to it. The other thing Windham said is you got like this course, if you don't hit fairways, it just, it really limits your ability to, to score here. So accuracy off the tee is really, really big. And you look like this is a ball strikers course. Because the last, last year, for example, Hideki won second was Xander and Hovland and fourth was Scotty. A year ago it was Lucas Glover who was on an all time late season heater in a playoff against Patrick Cantlay, who was playing better then and in third place was Rory. So looking at how to gamble on this, Scotty is such a major favorite in every tournament he plays now and currently he's like under 3 to 1. So if you want to bet Scotty, I got no issue with you. To me, if I'm going to bet Scotty, I'm going to parlay a couple guys to finish in the top 20. Like I look to take Scotty and then take like Ben Griffin and Chris Goddard up who are playing really, really well to top 20 and you can get like that's like 15 to 1. You bet 10 bucks, you win 150, you bet 100 bucks, you win 1500. I also said, well, if you go, Rory's not playing in this tournament, Xander, over the last couple months has looked much more like himself. A year ago, he finished second, so he's comfortable on this course. You can get Xander right now 18 to 1. I mean, the gap between Scotty at plus 280 and Xander at plus 1800 is pretty crazy. Like, typically, even in Scotty's heyday, you would get a couple guys. Like how Xander not 10 to 1 or something, but that's a pretty sizable gap. So you're basically just playing, hey, can Xander beat Scotty? You kind of got to like his chances. I. And if you do that same parlay Xander with got her up and Ben Griffin to top 20, that pays 80 to 1. I think it's like plus 8,007 or something. So if it's betting like 10 bucks wins you 800, I'm going to do that. So I'm going to do the Scotty one. I'm going to do the Xander one, and that's really all. I'm going to play a couple guys, if you like to win just outright that aren't Scotty or Xander. You know, Fleetwood has had success here before. You know, you. You want a guy that's going to hit fairways and be a ball striker. Hovland obviously was good here last year. He's a guy you can get like plus 3,000, so 30 to 1. I think it's kind of intriguing. But this, these really, this week and next week are probably the last tournaments that Tour Championship can be difficult because there's only 30 guys, and it's basically going to come between probably one of the Scotty Arori, I mean, are going to win the thing. So I'm. I'm actually excited for this week because there's also a lot on the line in terms of Ryder Cup. Let's face it, watching Cam Young win on Sunday, you went like, he's from the New York area. He is an absolute bomber. He. I think he won a big amateur tournament at. At Bethpage, so he's comfortable on the course. Like, how's he not? Especially if he plays well the next couple of weeks, not on the team. He was already, I think, like, 15th in terms of the American Ryder cup rankings. So it's like he's been in the mix anyway. You wouldn't rather have Cam Young. If he's playing well, then I don't know. And I understand, like, Patrick Cantlay has been a very good Ryder cup player, but he's not playing well right now. I mean, he's honestly had an awful Year I would say Jordan speeds right now. He even admitted like next year I'm going to feel a lot better. Coming back from injury this year was weird. I'm much more confident next year. He's basically telling you like I haven't played very well this year. How are you going to take if Cam Young plays well in one of the next two weeks, Jordan speed over Cam Young just because of what he did four, eight, six years ago. Who cares? The same thing with Gotter up like if God are up plays well these next couple of weeks. I just have a hard time seeing Cam Young and got her up. Guys from the area that bombed the ball and that are playing really well, like their momentum has to count for something. And I do think Keegan Bradley who on the was it the original Netflix or was it the year the season two of the Netflix when when he got left off Zach Johnson's team for the good old boys Club. I'm not saying that he has a vendetta against everybody. He's probably cool with them all. But you can't imagine he hasn't thought like if I'm given the opportunity to blow this, all these guys on scholarship, like if they're not playing well, I'm going to do it. And guys like Cam Young, Chris Godrup, they got a chance to really disrupt this thing. And I'm not saying to kick Morikawa to the curb. He's currently I think 8th in the Ryder Cup American rankings. But he has not played well either and like his whole juju and vibe has been off. He's gone through like 17 caddies in the last three months. So I think there has to be some guys and Keegan's already said whether he picks himself or not, if you are not in the top six and automatically qualifying, you are not guaranteed shit. So that happened to me and you better get ready because it will happen to you. But you also need some of these guys to step up and play well for everyone to feel good about, especially Keegan picking them. So again I'm going Xander to win with got her up and Ben Griffin to top 20. And I'm also doing the same thing with Scotty to win Ben Griffin and got her up to top 20. Okay, live Chicago this week in Bowling Brook. Your boy has never been to the Windy City. Kind of crazy. Never been there. That will change this week. Flying out Friday Stan with a man named Colin Coward and we are going to this tournament on Saturday. Not quite even sure what to expect. Hope we I've been telling them like get us Phil. We can talk football, we can talk some divisional odds, we can talk who we like, you know, to win the conference, to win the mvp. We know Phil likes to gamble. Bryson, content creator like your boy. So I'm, I am just excited to watch this whole operation because listen, the television product in terms of ratings haven't worked out, but no one has argued that like being in the event. I would imagine there's going to be a pretty big turnout. Never been or seen this, this course, Bowling Brook, but I can imagine the vibes are going to be high. They clearly put in a lot of money in terms of the infrastructure and the party holes. So I'm excited to see what, what lives bring to the table. Obviously, you know, Bryson, Phil, DJ Hatton. Bubba's playing well. So we will be at LIV Chicago this Saturday and we'll, we'll report back next week. Okay? You don't need to sink a 30 foot putt to score big this weekend. Just fire up the DraftKings sportsbook and take your shot at the green. The kind with dollar signs. Whether you're a diehard golfer or just in for some Sunday drama, DraftKings has everything you need to make the round a little more exciting. Live bets, prop plays, odds boosts, and plenty more. You new to golf betting? It's really easy. You can take a guy to win outright. You can bet on guys to top five, to top 10, to top 20. Got a couple names for you. Obviously, odds are subject to change. 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I'm going to disagree. I enjoy it on television once a year, but I would probably get on board if we saw it 10 times a year. Okay, we get it. You need the wind and the rain or else these guys are going to destroy the course. I don't think. And this is the problem. I love the Ryder Cup. I mean I love golf. Having the Ryder cup, which is an incredible event. Going up against college and NFL football is tough. Like Friday of the Ryder cup is cool because they're not competing against anything. And then all of a sudden you got Alabama, lsu, Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, usc, all these teams playing the casual sports fan that would consume the Ryder cup is not going to do it. And obviously you play the singles matches on Sunday. Well, what happens on Sunday? The NFL and the Ryder Cups in New York this year, which is really cool. But like, do you think more people are tuning into that or the jets and Giants game come. Come Sunday afternoon. So I hear what you're saying about spreading it out. I disagree. You kind of got to take advantage of the summer. Like, the best thing for golf is once football ends, there's some open real estate. There's a reason that on the AFC and NFC championships that Jim Nance typically, it's like the Kansas City Invitational now calls the Torrey Pines from the football booth, and they do Wednesday through Thursday or Wednesday through Saturday instead of Thursday through Sunday because they don't want to go up against the NFL. So I would not go up against football. I really would not. And. And I hear what you're saying, but why does golf have to be 12 months a year? It's always a complaint by the players, like, why don't we get an offseason? I think it's a valid concern. There just literally is no off season. So. Yeah, I don't know. Why is the hole after an eagle or a birdie so impossible? It's a great question. I think you're. I mean, if you're after an eagle, you're just so amped up, even if you're a pro. I mean, an eagle is a pretty big deal, especially if it was like. It's one thing if it's like a drivable par 4, but if you get an eagle on a par 5 where you do hit a driver and then definitely like a three wood or a five wood and make a putt, I don't think there's a better feeling in golf. Like, there, it's a cool feeling to, like, hit an iron within 10ft and then make the putt, but there's nothing like hitting it on and two on a par five and then making a putt. To me, that is better than even, like, chipping in. But you could also argue that chipping in, like, there's just a comedown from it. And I think most of us, we get a little too excited, we lose our focus, and then all of a sudden, you've pumped one in the trees. How good would you recommend someone be to play some of the tougher and more famous courses? I'm new to golf and taking lessons and still scoring in the hundreds. I live in NorCal and want to play courses like Bandon Dunes and in pebble beach in the next few years before I move, but want to actually enjoy it. It's not fun spending $300 for a round and spend your whole time searching for a ball. I think there are some parallels. Anyone that skied or snowboarded. No. If you're not very good and you go down a double black diamond, it is a miserable experience. And with golf one, it's, it's supposed to be a fun activity, right? You're supposed to enjoy yourself. All of us know it can be really challenging, really hard, and really frustrating. But when you pay, you ain't playing pebble for $300, I'll promise you that. I don't know how much Ban and Dunes is, but it's not $300 either. And to get to Ban and Dunes for you, you either got to drive, which is six, seven, eight hours, or fly, which is not cheap. So it's a, it's an expensive. Those two golfing trips are expensive no matter what. So if you're gonna spend a lot of money, you don't want to go to a situation where you're gonna suck and be miserable. So I would say, I mean, Pebbles, you gotta stay there. So unless you know people, you're spending well over a thousand dollars to play Pebble. So if you're gonna play Pebble, I would say you gotta be breaking 100 consistently. You could probably go to Bandon playing like you're playing and just enjoy it because it's hard no matter what if the wind is pumping. But I would say the pebble thing, I would not play it. I've never even played Pebble Beach. I've been there a bunch, but I've never played Spyglass. But I've never played Pebble. But I would not recommend going if you can't break 100 Bandon, you could go with friends, get some caddies and, you know, kind of enjoy yourself. You're not going to lose as many balls in theory. Pebble, though, that to me is a bucket list course, no matter who you are. I mean, Jack Nicklaus calls it the greatest course in the history of the world. So definitely the best stretches, you know, six, seven, eight, nine. I would. There's, there's a correlation of putting pressure on yourself when you're spending an uncomfortable amount of money on golf. It's not fun if you, if you're not playing well. Have you or anyone played the Tacoma irons? They advertise as being very forgiving and low price point, but didn't know if they were any good. I think that's the iron that Grand Horvat is in business with. I've never have, I mean, I've honestly only hit my own tailor made irons for the last, I don't know, half decade. So they're they're the only. I mean, I've occasionally hit other people's drivers or woods, but I have not hit another iron in a long, long time. In your last go low. When comparing Scotty's season from last year and this year, you forgot to list his win at the Olympics. I'm not saying it's enough for him to say he'd prefer his 24 season over two majors, but it obviously meant a lot to him and he literally cried during the medal ceremony. How much do you think he values the gold medal in comparison to major trophies and other marquee PGA events? And how much do you value it adds to his legacy. So I think you were, you were alluding to would Scotty have traded his season for Xander's when he won two majors? I'm right. I did not mention the gold medal. And if I remember correctly, didn't Scotty come storming back on the final day to win the gold medal? Pretty unique accomplishment. Even though it's not really like storied in the sense that it's relatively new. I don't think Xander would have traded his because he already has a gold medal. Xander won his gold medal in what year was it? 2000. He won in 2020. Oh, because they delayed it in 2020. So yeah, I mean, I think that definitely factors in. And if you're Scotty and you know you're going to win more, I think you'd feel pretty good about the gold medal aspect. Would probably. Fair point, fair point. But I don't think Xander would have traded his for Scotty and all the wins and all the money to add the gold medal because he already had one. So I think it kind of goes both ways. But definitely now that Scotty's won the gold medal, I don't think there's amount of regular events he could win and not trade for majors. Like, I think he's at the point moving forward. I mean he's going to keep winning regular events for sure. But the emphasis on Scottie Scheffler to add to this, can he win? I mean, I think the question mark is now he's at 4. Is he winning 8 to 10 or does he end up like 6 or 7 and I would guess 8 to 10 assuming he doesn't get injured. Like, I mean, I think the over under next year for Scotty is one and a half. Just wanted to reach out and say that after about a month or two playing, I hit a par and a par three today and hit my farthest drive as well, with golf seemingly growing, do you think the merger between the DP World Tour, Live Golf and PGA can come up with a product to capitalize on it? Great question, man. I'm going to be at the Live Chicago and see if I can get a vibe for like, hey guys, is this we do any mergers? We going to start playing together? I do think the ball is somewhat in the PGA Tours court and the commission, the new CEO commissioner. You know, I think I've been saying this forever. An easy one is just to waive some of the the restrictions and just be like, hey, do you want to play in some of our events? You guys, John Rom, you want to play in the Waste Management? DJ Koepka, you want to play in the Arnold Palmer. Bryson, you want to play in some of these events and kind of start off slowly that way and then slowly integrate from there. But as of right now, I would say based on the information we have up to this point is there is no unification in the near future. So I don't know. I would say maybe it's added some buzz to the majors, but relative to the Tours, it doesn't matter. I mean, none of the tours have anything to do with the majors. It's kind of sad. Question for the pod when Is the next Breaking 80 video coming? If you had to choose Rory vs Bryson Sunday at the Ryder cup for the win or the Ravens vs Chiefs Week 4 matchup, they'll probably be on at the same time. This is what I'm saying. It's just Bryson and Rory are just not. They're not relevant in the sense of you're going up against the Ravens and the Chiefs. It's just not an ideal situation. There's no way around it. I don't know what you do. There's not really any changes you can make. But if you're going to have the Ryder cup during football season, you're going to come about that like it could be Scotty vs Rom and Rory vs Bryson head to head, which I would guess it's going to be. What are you going to do? Fleetwood vs. Justin Thomas, Ludwig Verse, J.J. spawn. But I I'm actually going to film some stuff today with my friends at 5 Hour Energy. I'm going to do. I got to do one soon. I've just. We got so football heavy. Got married kid. We haven't done one, but I'm kind of inspired right now. I haven't touched a golf club in a couple weeks. Congratulations on the upcoming baby. What are your thoughts on transitioning to all hybrid clubs. I'm approaching 40s, my distance has diminished and I've always hit well with my four and five hybrids. I currently have four, five and six. Would you replace your seven, eight, nine irons with hybrids? That seems pretty bold. You know, part of, to me like an eight iron is even if you hit it, let's say 130 yards, 140 yards, an eight iron, it's like, well, you can still, if it's windy, chip it. I don't know how on a hybrid you would hit like 130 yard shot. Would, would be my question. It's like Bryson, he swings so hard sometimes he gets close. Like how does Bryson ease into 110 yard shot when he's hitting a nine iron 190 yards? To, to me, it's similar mindset with the hybrid. Like how do you, how do you hit something 133 yards if you have a nine iron hybrid? I'm the wrong guy to ask on that. I would say my initial reaction, even if you're getting older and your distance is diminished, would still would be no. Okay, last question. Do you think that's a good or bad thing for the Ryder Cup? It was in relation to my tweet saying that Keegan has probably dreamt about blowing up the good old boys club. I would say if guys were playing well and it was like, hey, you just can't lay Spieth Morikawa. All these guys were no brainers. It would be stupid if Keegan wanted just to go against the grain because Zach Johnson screwed him. But given the situation, like what are we talking about? 1, at the end of the day, this is an exhibition. This is not a major. I understand, like Keegan approaches like a major and it's really serious to him. But we're also not talking about like Tiger woods and Phil Mickelson in their prime. We're discussing Patrick Cantlay, who can't make a cut at a major. We're talking about Jordan Spieth, who just hasn't been that good lately. And we're talking about Cam Young, who has a track record of being a really good player. Chris got her up. That ideally maybe he one day can be a consistent Ryder cup player and a top 20ish, you know, golfer on the, on the PGA Tour, top 15 guy, top 10 guy. So I don't think it's that crazy at all. I think J.J. spawn winning the U.S. open really threw kind of a wrench into everything because he's going to take an automatic spot But I got no problem with anything Keegan wants to do. If he wants to keep can't lay and speed, I will understand it though I would go the opposite. Like I get taking Patrick Cantlay. He's been awesome in the event. I think he's like his career records like 5 and 2 and he gets into it. So like I could see Patrick Cantlay a little like Justin Thomas being a bright lights guy. Speed to me is not in it. Like I don't think you can take speed if you wanted to be like Morikawa. Don't like your vibes, you're not playing well. Not going to argue either. I think if he picks himself, you would like to see a little more signs of life the next couple of weeks. But I get that too. Like he's one of our best players. So if he wants to pick himself, totally understandable. This isn't. You're not like a player coach. This isn't NFL playoff, playoff game. Like it's very doable, I think, to be a player captain. I think it's possible and I think he's going to be able to focus in doing it given his passion for it. But I think everything should be on the table right now. It's much easier for the Euros to pick the team. Their team is pretty well established in terms of like the hierarchy. Ours is not. Ours simply is not. You know, you feel really good about Scotty, Xander and Bryson. Even Justin Thomas played pretty well this year. I mean really well. I would say most of the other guys on the team, like, I like JJ Spawn, seems like a great guy. But like, do you feel comfortable about JJ Spawn against these guys in that moment? Not really. I mean, do you feel great? Like Russell Henley, really good player. You bet in your life. Like he's going to kick ass and take names in this environment. I don't know. So it's just, it's going to be fascinating to watch that. That's what's sad is I wish this event was even during the NFL preseason. I'd be so excited. But it's during football and most of you guys, it's going to be hard to pay attention even if you got multiple televisions like Red Zone, Chiefs, Ravens, like who knows who, Ohio State and Texas and all these teams are gonna be playing just, it's just hard to compete with football in 2025. The volume.
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