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Go Low - Cameron Young WINS The Players Championship over Matt Fitzpatrick
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What is happening my people, how are we doing? John Middlekop A little Go Low podcast We had to react to the players because my guy Cam Young, who I gave out as my winner to bet on at 31 to 1, won the players biggest event of his career. I mean it's only a second win. I was obviously glued with a baby over the last couple days, not leaving the house, just watching golf. Not much going on football wise. So I said you know what, fire up and do a golf podcast leading into Monday. So that's what we will do today. Cam Young, his duel with with Matt Fitzpatrick, who's former major winner won the US Open up in Boston. We will dive right into that. What a moment for the the American up and coming superstar. The meltdown that we saw to the last group. Michael Thor Bjornsson, the Stanford Blue Chipper blew up and then Ludvig followed suit a couple holes later. So we'll dive into the meltdown. Some positives for guys like Justin Thomas, Sandra Shaflay. What's going on with Scotty Scheffler? Does McElroy deserve a pass? The new CEO from the NFL, Brian Rolapp, he talked on Wednesday. He talked again in the booth during the broadcast on Saturday. Some thoughts there. We will also do a little bit of Mailbag at Golopod. At Golopod is the Instagram Fire in those DMS and get your questions answered here. Again we separated golf. We have its own YouTube channel. So on YouTube after the players we just went live. So I did this podcast live right after the players ended and we're going to do that a lot for the big events, some of the majors. So go check that out on on YouTube and obviously we have the the audio feed as well which you're listening to. So appreciate it. And we'll be back probably Tuesday with the three and out podcast, football wise on some free agency stuff and we'll see if any stories break on Monday. But today is going to be pretty golf heavy so let's just dive right into it. We got to start with Cam Young who was just an incredible talent. I mean there is no dispute, I mean hit the longest drive of the week on 18 after yesterday, pumping it into 18375 yards. He's really like the American version of Hideki when you factor in elite ball striker. His swing is really slow. He stops, and then it's just like an explosion of golf pureness. And over the last couple days, listen, he was, he had moments these last couple days where he was all over the place off the tee, and the rough's pretty penal there, but his putting, he's turned into like Brad Faxton or Steve Stricker. I mean, he's. His putting was just elite. And coming down that tournament, that, that was electric, that, that essentially turned in to a Ryder cup match. For the Ryder Cup. I mean, it was America versus the Euros. And one of the two guys, a duo, broke out the last seven or eight holes and you're on the edge of your seat, especially if you had money on Cam, right? They both birdie 13, I think Fitz bogeys 14. Cam pars. So then they're tied. They both have birdie looks on 15. Cam misses, Fitz makes. But to me, 16 was pretty crazy. Fitz pumps it into the trees. The par fives on this course are incredible because you can have an eagle look or you can make double and we'll dive into the course a little bit later, which I think is just, just a fantastic track from a viewing standpoint. It's. It's by far the biggest. Has the biggest variants of all the PGA Tour courses. It has a little bit of a US Open feel in, like you can birdie basically any hole, but you could also get a double. And we saw the guys in the final group get some doubles and a quad, so there's always a lot on the line. But, you know, Fitz pumps into the trees, kind of gets a lucky break, bounces straight down. He chips it out where he's going to have 100 plus yards in. Cam is 250 yards in now. I get it. These guys hit it way farther than us civilians. And clearly Cam is one of the longer guys on the PGA Tour. But even Bryson with his funky clubs, 250 yards, four iron with a 12 to 15 mile an hour wind straight into your face. Kind of a bizarre shot. Now, tour players have said over the years that that is a weird layup hole. You know, when you're, when you're from the fairway, obviously with the wind pumping, if you put a little cut spin on it, you could be in the drink. So I understand not taking a little bit more of a higher club, but he hooks it into the, into the, that, that bunker with the tree. He gets a fried egg lie I honestly thought the tournament was over. Then I'm like, he's probably gonna bogey. Fitzpatrick's gonna par. He's gonna have a multiple shot lead going in the last couple holes. And somehow he pulls a par out of his ass because he just hits it on the green and two putts and he's down one going into 17. I mean probably non major, I don't know. The most iconic hole in the PGA Tour in terms of maybe waste management hole 16. But really that hole is because of the stage and the stadium that's built around this. This hole is again a kind of a fake creation, an island green in the middle of the water. But it's just had memorable moments. And he birdies the hole, he drips it right in and the place goes bananas. Then they go to 18 where the irony of these two guys who are battling it out, they would have both not even had to even think about anyone else if they didn't double 18 yesterday. Cam hit it into the water. Now I think kids or someone mentioned on the broadcast that he thought it was a perfect shot. He went to pick up his tea as someone that was gambling on him. And watching yesterday, definitely by the tracer. It didn't look great. So I was pretty nervous. He pulls out driver. I was like, I, I wouldn't have blamed if he went conservative and like went Tiger stinger. He had a 375 yard drive and the pressure that put on Fitzpatrick, especially coming off the birdie, who then just pumps in the pine straw. Now this tournament's weird. These greens are really hard. I didn't think the tournament was over because then Fitzpatrick lays up right in front of the green. I'm like, he could make par. And the shot was clearly pretty hard. It was like 15 mile an hour winds going straight at the flag. You're hitting a sand wedge from what are a lob wedge from 100 yards and he just leaves on the top shelf where he's got a par 100% in the back. And it was just going to come down to once he missed the putt. Could Fitzpatrick make his part putt and he didn't. Cam taps in for the wind. But I, I think what's so cool is like we have such a group at the high end of just elite American golfers. Obviously Scotty, four majors, just an all time great player. Going through it a little bit now for his standards, but his resume is elite. You know, Justin Thomas is. His career is going to end. He'll probably have 20 wins and three or four majors, right? Jordan, speech. Ton of majors, ton of wins. Obviously, Xander Shafley knocked out the majors a couple years ago. A guy that's going to be an all time American. I do think Cam has the talent to be considered in that group. But part of golf is you got to win. Like, this is a team sport. You can't just be Kevin Durant, sign up for the warriors, then all of a sudden you get a couple like, you got to do it yourself. He was our best player at the Ryder Cup. They all the guys said that he was coming in with a bunch of momentum and then was awesome. It definitely wasn't his fault. We got our ass kicked. But you got to win these big tournaments. And several years ago he was. He actually finished second at the Old Course when Cam Smith won and Rory kind of blew it. So he's had. He's played well in the majors. He's top 10 in every major. And I think he's his best finish in the Masters, like seventh. He's finished top five in the other three. So he has been really, really good. He has a 1 up until the end of last year. But you win a tournament like this, it can change your course, you know, the course of your career. And you know, Justin Thomas, lot of emotion, speed, lot of emotion. You know, Rory shows emotion. A lot of these guys, pretty emotional out there, which, which I like. I, I like some juice and energy. Cam Young's the opposite. Like, he shows nothing. You know, Roger Federer, if you ever watched him, and I'm not the biggest tennis guy, but like, when guys like that would play, you'd watch. It never looked like Federer sweated. It's like, is he even sweating? How is he not sweating? Cam Young kind of has that vibe. There is no ebb and flow with his emotion. So once you get over that hump of having the confidence, like, I'm clearly one of the best guys on the PGA Tour and to get that confidence, you got to win some of these tournaments. Now you win them. He has the mental makeup that's going to translate. He is going to be one of the sexiest picks in all the majors at the Masters, at the pga, for sure. The next two majors, a lot of people are going to pick them, and rightfully so, because he's turned into. And they mentioned on the broadcast, not just one of the best putters on the PGA Tour, but the way he does it is unlike anyone else. His caddy, who probably deserves a race, though I'm pretty sure he just won $4 million. Well, Cam did well. If the Caddy gets 10%, just made 400K. So he had pretty good day at the office. Right. So the caddy's well compensated now and probably been well compensated. I mean, he's, he's with a player that's a cash cow, but he does all the green reading. Like he lines them up and tells them where to go. And Brad Faxon, who was on the broadcast, like, yeah, it's pretty unheard of with the top player. Like, no one really does that. And not only does he do it, Cam's turned into one of the best putters in the world. And if you're going to hit the ball like that, one of the problems with a decky, if a decky ever putted like Cam Young is putting right now, he'd win way more. So if you can putt like that and hit it like that, he can get a little squirrely off the tee, which is probably why the US Open, which is several months away, probably not going to hammer Cam on that one. But the Masters, the pj, some of these tournaments where you can spread around a little bit and just let your irons, let the cream rise. He is going to be an auto hammer for a top five, top ten, and a guy to sprinkle the win for sure. So I, I've told this story before, but one of my good buddies, Scotty Raber, plays a lot of golf, or did now lives in Southern California, but when he lived in Northern California was Spencer Levine, longtime tour pro. He's been on the Corn Ferry Tour now for years, just playing, you know, in his early 40s. And he said he played with Cam Young. I don't know if this was like four or five years ago in an event in Chicago. And Spencer's played with Tiger, with Phil, with Ernie. Like, he's played with some of the best guys in the history of the game. I mean, you could argue Tiger and Filler, two of the top five guys. And he played with them on a day in Chicago. I, I think it was raining and winds were blowing like 40 miles an hour. And Cam, I think, shot four or five under. No one else in the field was like sniffing par. He's like, I, I think that was the best ball striking round I've ever seen. And the talent on this guy is beyond immense. And to me, it's always cool when you watch a guy with a ton of talent kind of realize it. Like, listen, I was kind of wrong on my take on Caleb Williams coming into the season, but I'M a talent freak, like ability. Like I watch pro sports for the guys with the ability that the average Joe's don't have. Like, listen, I respect Mac Jones, but I don't watch the NFL football to watch Mac Jones play. And watching Caleb starting to realize that, like you watch Lamar and Josh, once they started figuring it out, you're like, God, this is incredible. Incredible to view. This is what you want to watch, right? And that to me is Cam on a golf course. He just has more talent than basically everyone else on in the tournament beside a couple guys. So if he's going to be on and putt like this, he's got a chance to be easily one of the best players in the world. And that, that was really cool to watch a guy, I mean, he had to grind it out a little bit. Like he was. I mean, I was glued, right? Even the shots, they weren't showing yesterday, I'm looking on my phone like he's pumping the ball into the rough. We got to figure out the driver a little bit. But what did he do today when he had to? He came through 16, right down the dick. 18. Biggest drive of his life. Especially after yesterday. I don't care who you are, if you pump one in the water 24 hours ago, it's got to be in the back of your mind. Didn't even hesitate. Beautiful draw. 375 yards. Now, obviously the fairways are rock hard, but you play a draw when you hit it that long. I mean, that's, that's like a historic drive. Now, it wouldn't have been if he would have screwed up and made a bogey, but it probably would have been more memorable if he would have birdied and walked off the putt. But what a cool moment for the guy and what just a cool moment with those two guys going at it. Ton of respect for Matt Fitzpatrick, who to me feels like a guy from my childhood, like an 80s or 90s golfer, you know, just the way he looks. But he's like morphed his game into this modern day game because he's got to keep up with guys like Cam Young and Rory McElroy and Scotty Scheffler. He's got to hit it hard. So he's kind of swings out of his ass, but he's kind of figured it out. He's notorious for. I think he's, he has logged every shot of his career. I'm not talking on the course, I'm talking the range. Like he has notebooks and information on every shot of his career. So this is a guy, when you talk about like maximizing all your ability, like I said about the Mac Jones thing, I respect the hell out of whether it's football, whether it's basketball, whether it's business, anyone who maximizes the most of their potential, most of us are not the most talented people at what we do. So to maximize our ability in whatever we're doing, it takes a lot of effort, takes a lot of energy. And Matt Fitzpatrick, to me, old school grinder, just a fantastic player. And he was awesome. I mean, the difference today was Cam Young shot 33 on the back and Math Fitzpatrick shot 35. I mean, it's really that simple. Cam Young shot three under on the back and he didn't birdie any of the par fives. So think about that. And one of the par fives, I mean, he hit it 300 plus yard drive right down the middle on 16 and didn't even remotely have a good birdie look, right? So to shoot 30, if you would have told me he's not going to birdie when the, when the back nine started either of the par fives, I would have been like, I need to cash out my bet because he's not going to win this tournament. But that he birdied 17, which I, I said 18 drive. I mean 17. That drippy pot, the place going nuts, chanting, USA. I saw Fitzpatrick had quotes that, he likes it, he enjoys it, it's cool, it's fun. He's like, it wasn't. This wasn't like a vile place like the Ryder Cup. It was just people having good fun. He understands it. He's playing in America against one of our Ryder cup guys who's going to be a Ryder cup, consistent, stalwart. Should be for years to come, you know, and now that he got this monkey off his back, I mean, technically did last year, but in terms of a big tournament, what a cool moment for a guy that honestly feels like he doesn't even care. I mean, he does have a little bit of Scheffler, a little bit of more cow. Like, not much emotion, which for me I don't really love. Like, I'd like a little bit more, but I do love when I, when I bet on you and you come through in a big moment like that. That, that was, that was really, really cool. So congrats on becoming the players champion. Where that list in recent memory is, is Rory twice, Scotty twice, Justin Thomas, like it's the cream of the crop in this tournament. This course, to me, shines like, I love TPC Scottsdale. I play there in theory all the time. I haven't played golf in two months. But it's, it doesn't have that. You can spray the ball around. It's. It's just an easier course. There is something. There's not as many bogeys and doubles on the course now. Part of it, there's not the water. They. They always trim the rough. Like they grew up the rough in the water. Part of what makes a great tournament is variance. It's what's so special about the US Open, right, Because the Masters has variants. But it's typically like, you can eagle 15, you can eagle 13, you could birdie 17, you can birdie 18. Like you can birdie and catch up, but you don't typically see coming down the stretch unless someone, you know, shakes it into the creek. Kind of like Rory did on 13. Occasional water shots on 15. It's not a lot of blow ups. It's usually a guy making a lot of red numbers and chasing someone down and passing them. What makes this tournament so awesome? Unlike all these PGA Tour events. And I know people like to nitpick sawgrass and I think they charge like almost a thousand dollars to play around, which is pretty insane. But I would imagine if we check the T sheet on a random weekend, you know, in, in June or in September, it's probably packed. So people are paying. Like they wouldn't charge it if people didn't pay is the variance in the rounds. Like at any moment the leader, the guy right behind him, could make a birdie. You could have eagle looks on the par 5 or easily you could double a hole in so much. I love the PGA Tour. I watch a ton of these events. Most of these events don't have doubles out there. Like you have to do something catastrophic here. You could just slightly miss in the rough and you're chipping out and then if you up on your approach, all of a sudden you have ten foot bogey putt. And we just don't get that very often. So to me, part of what makes this course so cool is like the amount of crazy numbers that are out there. And I'm not. We'll get to the meltdown here in a second. I'm not talking about getting a quad like Thor on the fourth hole, but at any moment you could have a two shot lead, the guy behind you can birdie and you can bogey and all of a sudden you're tied. And, and I just. For most of these courses now, with the length these guys have, we don't get the variance right. It's kind of like in football turnovers. The cool part about football is you can be at 14 points going in the fourth quarter. All of a sudden you throw a pick six. Like, basically they're a drive away from tying this thing. We were just in complete control. It happens in football all the time. In basketball now, three point shot, it happens all the time, right? And in golf, a lot of these PGA Tour events, like once you get control of some of these courses so easy, it just doesn't happen as much. You basically run guys down. Guys don't implode toward you. And speaking of meltdowns, I said this with Shane Lowry. If you're betting on a guy, a meltdown sucks. If you, obviously, if you know the guy personally or you're a huge fan, it's tough to watch. But if you don't necessarily have a dog in the race and you're just watching to consume, watching someone melt down in golf is fantastic, riveting tv. I mean, the final group today, what did, what did Ludwig shoot today? Ludwig, he shot 76. So they shot 77, 76. Thor, who easy got a root for Blue chipper out of Stanford, I think top five in an event as an amateur. I mean, has a chance he could have won the waste management if he didn't pump it into the water on 17. I mean, he's, he's a big time talent. I, I know some of the guys at Adidas that know him. I mean, he's, he's got a lot of ability. And to watch him get a quad on four was just wow. And I think sometimes when you're playing with a guy, because Ludvig's in complete control. He has a multiple shot lead on hole 11. He's right down the middle of the fairway, par five. He, he's been ball striking like he's Tiger Woods. You're like, this guy, he birdies this hole. He's gonna, he's gonna be 14 under par. He just gotta par in. I mean, who's catching him? And honestly, if that would have. What did Cam Young ended up finishing? He, if he would have birdied 11 and just pardon, he would have won the tournament. And it felt like he was gonna win the tournament until he pumped one in the water and he bogeys the par five. You're like, okay, this thing's interesting. And then he snap hooks his drive on the following hole and doubles the hole. And that is the type stuff again. You know, this happened to Shane Lowry, but Shane Lowry, I think, would be the first to admit I just hit two of the worst shots I've ever hit. Like for the most part on those holes, you know, I, I, on one of the holes, Shane Lowry hit in the water. He was the only guy that hid in the water all week long on this course. Like, the water balls are always available. If you watch this tournament over the last three or four days, guys are pumping in the drink constantly, especially on the par fives, because you can get aggressive, but the wind, you hit a little cut, you don't clear it. All of a sudden you're in the drink. And Ludwig goes bogey double. And he chews himself right out of the, he just implodes. He just imploded. And Kisner said he had two of his worst swings in a 30 minute stretch and it ended his tournament. And I do wonder, like, even if you're a 10 handicap, if you're playing well and you're playing with other people, just one other person, and they're playing really shitty, it's hard to get a vibe. Like if you looked at Fitzpatrick and Cam Young, they were kind of, you know, vibing off each other. It's like both making birdies, both hitting sweet shots, both making big putts, both just balling right. It happened on the par three, I think it was like 13, where they both knocked it within six, seven feet. It's like you just kind of feed off the momentum. It's like in racing, you draft off the guy. And I just think, Ludwig, it's hard to draft off a guy when he gets a quad on hole four and tournament's basically over and he's just kind of in la la land now. He maintained it for several more holes, but to keep that, that focus for another three hours, I'm not absolving him. I don't know why he made a bad swing for a guy that had just been striping the ball, but shot himself right out of the tournament in 30 minute stretch. It's for a guy that felt like, I don't want to say infallible, but it felt like there was no way, at minimum he was going to be in like a, in a playoff. In no circumstance did you see going into the back nine, Ludwig finishing four shots off the lead. It would have been inconceivable. You wouldn't have believed it unless you would have been like, well, does someone go birdie, birdie, eagle, birdie, birdie to finish and just lap him because how is Anyone like how's this possible? And it's possible at TBC Sawgrass because it's got water everywhere and if you make disastrous shots, you're not just on some other fairway, which happens a lot in PGA Tour golf. It happens in a lot of golf that we play. Not there and not really in the Florida swing. That's the one thing that's cool. I've never played golf in Florida, but the lakes are such a big part of their sport. Even the picture of Cam Young teeing off on 18. Did you notice what was like not quite in the middle of the lake, but probably 50ft away from. Sure look like a big alligator to me. Sure look like a massive alligator. My guess is eyeballing it because it was way was like is that thing like ten foot alligator right there? And the answer is probably yeah. I mean they got alligators all over at these lakes. 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Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide. Based on the February 2025 Nielsen report. Okay, a couple other things. Major signs of life. You know, for a guy who'd had a really shitty season and he was, he was for his standards, I mean, atrocious. It felt like Xander shot 85 yesterday, but other than that, he was really good this tournament. I mean he shot 69, 65, 69. If he just, instead of shooting 74, if he just shoots 71, he wins the tournament. If he shoots 72, he's in a playoff. And honestly, to shoot 74 with as bad as he played yesterday was a remarkable accomplishment. So it's, it's nice to see Xander who part of what makes these majors big. I was watching before I went to bed last night, Bryson, and you need your heavy hitters. Scotty was off obviously this week. Relative to his standard, Rory was a non factor. Like this is star driven sport. There's a reason in tennis, Sampras, Agassi, Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, like you're led by Tiger woods, by Phil, by Speed, by Koepka, by Scotty, by Rory. You need those guys carrying the flags. And I'm not saying Xander's on their level, but he's that next tier and you need him in the mix. You can't have a bunch of random guys that the casual fan can't point out of. Let him. Same thing with Justin Thomas, who has the back injury a couple weeks ago at bay Hill. Shoots 79. 79. You're just like, God, this could be a weird start to the season. And he immediately gets it back and he finishes, he finishes the top 10. And he was, he was pretty good the last couple days. He had a triple yesterday where he pumped it into the water like Ludwig all time bad shot. That hole under the trees on hole six, tried to hit driver. I think he double crossed it. I mean, he hit that thing deep into the water. But those two guys important Ryder cup guys important. Just American golfers that should be competitive in the majors in all the big tournaments. And they just kind of flex their muscles this week. Now to me, Scotty, who was way better on the weekend, they showed him a lot on Thursday and Friday. Randall had this take, I think on like Thursday night on the Golf Channel that he's messing with his swing and it's way shorter. So why he's all off. Some other guys on Insta or Twitter were breaking it down. I listen, I, I, I can barely, you know, I just try to hit fairways here. I, I, to pretend to break down someone's golf swing, especially at that level. No fucking clue. Here's what I do know. If you watch him, he is hitting some in especially Thursday and Friday. Some like crazy slices, I wouldn't even call them fades or cuts. They are starting at the left rough and they are ending up in the right rough. And clearly he is battling his driver or was over the course of the last couple rounds or the course of the last couple tournaments. And early in this round he was all over the map and same thing with just his longer woods. I remember watching him at riv, he was doing the same thing. So whatever's going on there, if he can get that figured out, because he was much better on the weekend. He finished 67 71. So he shot five shots, six under over the weekend. Now early on he just, he was 72, 73, just, he was just off. I mean, you're just watching him like this is not the Scottish. And if he can just get that figured out, which I would imagine is gonna be the number one thing he's gonna be working on going to Augusta. But right now, the way he's playing, I couldn't be confident picking him to win Augusta now. Maybe showed some more signs of life before he plays another tournament. But something's just a little off. Again, he's not shot. He's not like, not a factor. But you go from consistently finishing the top 10, winning all these tournaments, it being weird when you finish like fourth to all of a sudden back to back tournaments where you don't crack the top 20. Like, it just, that comes with the territory. And it's also a unique pressure. And I was, I was texting with a buddy the other day, like, everyone's gunning for you, everyone's talking about you. I, I understand. He's super humble guy, super religious guy. He's got a new baby, a second baby coming. I know he's very grounded. Rory says how jealous he is about simple his life is. And I get that. But you can't tell me when you come to these golf tournaments and everyone's looking at you, everyone's anointing you as they're comparing you to Tiger Woods. If you get compared to Tiger woods, that that is a heavy burden to wear. And it's like, oh, he's already won four majors, he wins 10 more. I mean, people are talking like, what's his over under on majors? 10, 11. I mean, the way they talk about him. And I'm guilty too. It's. It's got to just put an immense amount of pressure when you just play and then you're a little off and then you start forcing it. So it's kind of cool. Like part of what makes golf cool is to see guys go through it, to see guys grind it out, right? Golf's weird. You could be really shitty one week and then all of a sudden finish top five. It's kind of like baseball. You cannot have a hit all week and then the next two games you get four home runs. You know, it's like all these guys, the margins are really thin, even for the elite guys like Scotty Scheffler is going to go down as one of the all time greats. But you know, to me, it's why I give Rory a little bit of a pass this week. Because a couple weeks ago at Bay Hill, he was trending. He shot 400 on Friday. He looks pretty good. And who knows, I thought he was going to be a factor that weekend, you know, at the Arnold Palmer. And then the back thing happens, he doesn't show up here till Wednesday. I watched him on Thursday. He was just had no clue where it was going. So I give him a little bit of a pass. Just probably didn't touch a club from having to back out WD for the second time in his career. But it's definitely something to keep an eye on. I think he will be fine by the time we get to the majors, which is really not that far away. We're about a month away from the Masters which is pretty cool. The other thing is Brian Rolapp, the new CEO, talked on Wednesday. He came into the booth on Saturday. My overall take, I. I think he's really impressive. He has a vibe of, like, clearly been trained by the NFL there. There's a corporate feel to him, but there's also, like, a human feel to him. You know, sometimes Raj can feel a little bit robotic, which is somewhat understandable. He's, you know, the CEO or commission of one of the biggest businesses in the world. And he's got 32 billionaires that he answers to, but he also kind of tells them what to do. It's just a unique gig. Golf's a lot different. I mean, this is a niche sport. This isn't football. Never will be. Like Roll up said, there's a $30 billion media market right now, and the NFL is looking to gain 23 to 24 of that. And basketball already has 6 or 7 of that. So where does that leave us? It's. It's a challenge. But I think he understands, and the players is unique. I mean, it's one of the biggest. It's probably the biggest right there with waste, but probably bigger than waste, because football, it's. During the super bowl, you know, tournament of the year. He's got to find a way. I saw a stat on Instagram that. And this is. Makes sense. Ever since 2020, golf has boomed. Recreational golf, 40% growth over the last five years. Anyone knows this. If you go to your shitty course that used to charge 25, it now charges 80. The course that used to charge 100 now charges 250. The course that used to charge 250 now charges 500. And you complain about it. And then you go and they're just packed you. You have young people, old people, women. The growth of women, It's. It's. It's seen a enormous boom in the access to these golf courses, these public courses. They're all. Especially if you live in a big city. And he clearly wants to inject the PGA Tour in the big city. The more people that play golf, the more people that will casually watch the pros. Part of the reason football, basketball, and baseball have always been so big, you go back 50 years, because if I just take a random kid in high school, more than likely he has played one of those three sports in a decent percentage of those guys play one of those sports at least through junior high or high school. And if you play those sports, you're just more invested to the guys who are best at those sports. Like, why did I fall in love with college football in the NFL? I started playing football, right? I, I just, it's like, if you're just, how does a guy do that? And that's why I love pro golf, because I started playing golf when I was young. Why do a lot of people that watch bat or played basketball when they were in high school or college love college basketball or the NBA? Because they played it in basketball is unique because even if you didn't play, you know, in high school, you still could play pickup basketball. I'm a good example. I didn't play high school basketball, but I played pickup basketball all throughout my 20s. So there is a direct correlation of people that will just casually pay attention. And YouTube Golf has exploded. Bob Grant. Good, good. The barstool guys, there was just an avenue. If they could figure this out, they can gain new people and they're just going to be a lot of pressure on roll app to get this right. And I don't have all the answers. I'm glad they said they're going to do events with cuts make them bigger. Not like 50, 70 guys. Make it 100 plus 120 guys have a cut. I think that, I think Tiger's really big on that. Like, that is at the soul of the game you play in an event. If you play shitty, you do not make the weekend. Right. This is not football or basketball. Yeah, he's had a bad game, had a bad week. Like, he's on contract. If you have an awful year in professional golf, you might miss the majority of cuts and make no money. To make money on the course, you have to play. Well, that is not true in any other sport. All these guys that just signed free agent contracts in football, they could all play like this upcoming year. Now, they might not get their entire contract, but all that guaranteed money they're guaranteed to make. There is no such thing in golf. There kind of is now because they give you $500,000 retainer or they've added some stuff since live, but it, it's nothing like these other sports, which I think makes it like so cool. I mean, we had like. I'll just list some names. Son. J.M. jake Knapp, Gary Woodland, Harry Hall, Joel Damon, Cam Davis, Mark Hubbard. I mean, these guys play like crap. They missed the cut. Colin Morco withdrew, doesn't get any money, right? In football or basketball, if I start the game, withdrew on a second hole. If Josh Allen breaks his ankle on the second play of the game, he still gets paid. Colin Morkawa gets no money for this tournament, so I'm fascinated to watch what Roll up does. I think there's a ton of pressure on him and I'm really excited to watch. Today's podcast is brought to you by Ferguson Home. Whether you're a homeowner creating your dream space or a pro managing multiple projects, Ferguson Home is where it all comes together. Ferguson Home is designed for the way you want to shop. 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Discover is accepted at 99 of places that take credit cards nationwide. Based on the February 2025 Nielsen report. Before we get out of here, I'm just going to bang out a couple at golopod. At golopod, we got an Instagram. We're going to do these Instagram questions like we do on the football podcast. Fire in my DMs. Get your questions answered here. This is a question that just pertains to this week. Can you explain your strategy for betting on golf? For example, do you like to bet more top fives, top tens, tournament winners? Can you share experience about betting on players that are not household names, whether they are hot in a tournament or fizzled out? My strategy has been has changed. When I first started doing it, I would bet on guys to win. Obviously I hit cam $100 bet for $3,100. That's very difficult to do. Like you're not going to make a living off betting guys to win a golf tournament. Cam Young took on what, 150 guys this week. This is not football or basketball where if you bet on one of the teams to win, you only have to beat one opponent. In golf, you have to beat the entire field. It is, it is very difficult to do do. The smart way to gamble in golf is to bet top tens and top 20s. The bet on Cam Young, the smart bet would have been to hammer him top 10. You know, calling Morikawa, I know he withdrew, hammer him top 10. And then like part of why I like Cam Young, I think he's an elite talent. He had top 10 in his last couple events. So part of my strategy is I take bigger names who are playing well besides Scotty and Rory. Unless you want to take one of those guys to win in the majors, which is not Crazy. But top tens, when you can get plus 150, plus 200, like when you can get guys like Justin Thomas, Xander Shafley, guys like that at plus 180, plus 202 top 10 and they are playing well. Like you feel pretty good about those. I, I have stopped betting random guys. I don't do that very often. A couple years ago I, Jake Knapp was, I bet him at the Mexico Open. But for the most part my strategy has really turned into take the big boys, take the top 20ish players, the Hideckis, Fitzpatrick. When we get to the majors, Rom, Bryson, Scotty, Rory, Xander and just hammer those guys. Now if you want to take some flyers on like a couple guys top 20 parlays, you can put 20 bucks to win 500 or a thousand, you, you can figure out some of those. But like if you're going to get aggressive to me, bet good players to top 10 with positive odds and if, if you want to like it's fun to bet winners but for every guy that I've hit winning and I've hit four or five over the course of, you know, maybe seven or eight over the course of my career, I've, I've lost a lot and you have to like I had Koepka this week, I had speed this week I had some other guys to win Fleetwood. It's not like Cam Young was the only guy I bet. I've been fitted for a new set of irons. Old club pro recommended regular stiff while another said I'm pushing extra stiff which seems like a big difference. I'm a tall guy, six three, six four with a six iron. My swing speed is around 85 to 87 miles an hour and my average carry is 180 yards. I'm no fitter. I, I would imagine with your swing speed, your distance, a stiff shaft is fine. I, my guess would be extra stiff is not necessary. I, I would go stiff over regular would be my recommendation. Again, not what I do for a living. Don't really know. I have stiff shafts. I swing relatively hard. That's what I would do. Can you give us a walkthrough of your equipment in your bag? I'm a mid handicap exploring new irons. Well a couple years ago it's probably like six or seven. One of the tailor made guys followed me I think on Twitter or Instagram. He was one of their big reps and this is probably like 2018 or 19. And I remember talking to him. He was a big Raider fan and he gave me like a 40% off. Basically promo code for TaylorMade. So I just got a set of. I think they're 790 cavity back irons. You know they were like at the time. I think they're way more expensive now. Someone told me they spent like three grand on a set of irons. Like Jesus. You know, they were like $1400. I got for 600 or whatever. I got really cheap. I've had the same irons forever. I've had the same Vokey Titleist wedges forever. I have multiple putters and I have Callaway woods which I purchased it like the PJ Superstore with some like fitted shafts that I've had for a while. But I'm. I would love a club sponsor here. I would play anything. My buddies and I are going to the PGA Championship this year and spending five days out there, but only going to one round. We're gonna play a couple other days. I know you spent time in Philly. Oh the PGA Championship. Said eronomic. Didn't know if you had course recommendations that are willing to pay 100 to $200. Any suggestions? In these crowded areas it is really hard to find golf courses at 100 bucks. Obviously I haven't played golf there since 2010. 1112 range. I remember West Chester, which I don't know how far away that is from Ironamic. I don't know where you're staying. Used to have some pretty good tracks. My brother came to visit. We played out there. Beautiful country, hilly, nice. Westchester, I think that's the name of the town. Had some really cool tracks. But again I, I don't know the price. When I was with the Eagles, we had a. There was a course in Jersey. I mean it wasn't a great. It was just a solid country club we had access to. I remember we used to play in the off season, me and some of the guys. Do you like betting golf matchups? I started doing that with mixed miss, mixed success. I, I only bet I, I've done it before in the, in the majors where you take like a group of five and you get odds on the guys. I basically just bet. I, I do a lot of top tens and top twenties and parlays type stuff with the top tens and top twenties and then sprinkle on winners. That, that's kind of the. That's what I focus on. I, I don't know. Day one leaders. That's a crapshoot. You know, country of origin, low guy. Like I don't really do that. I've actually Never bet a guy to miss the cut. I, I feel like betting a guy to miss the cuts, like betting an under. Like I don't, I don't really like betting for, you know, people that bet that in basketball, like people to miss or football, people like go three and out. Like that sucks. What do you think is harder to accomplish shooting a 59 in golf or making a 60 yard field goal in an actual game? Well, it's not possible for any normal human being either. So I, I think you're talking alluding to the pros. I would say now that kicking, these guys are kicking like 65 yard field goals. So 60 yard field goal when I in the 90s was a really big deal if you, if you kick, they would punt if the field goal was anything more than like 52 yards. Now it's like 65 yards. Half the teams in the league roll out their guy. So I would say if you're just basing on pro kickers and pro golfers, if we're just going to assume par 72, it's harder to shoot a 59 than it is to kick a 60 yard field goal. My guess would be the majority of guys, there's 32 teams. I would guess more than half teams would be pretty comfortable. Pretty comfortable to be strong but would roll out their kicker. The Jags, the Cowboys, Seattle. I'd have to think I'm out of the kicker mode, but maybe less than 16, but there's definitely 10 plus the teams are trying from 60 yards. So I would say shooting 59 would be harder. That'll do it. Congrats to Cam Young. Congrats to me and what an awesome tournament on kind of a slow weekend as we head into March Madness. Who props to John Calipari who fired from Kentucky, forced out, went to Arkansas, now wins the SEC tournament and has a baller. I think Arkansas is going to be a team that I'm going to root for in the NCAA tournament and St. Mary's like always. But I always root for St. Mary's I always get bounced in the first round. So enjoy the night and we will talk soon again. Subscribe Audio version Go low pod. I think we'll link it to the three and out pod too tomorrow. So see you later.
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