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I know he was having a Tiger like season, But I think sometimes when you compare people to Tiger woods, to Tom Brady, to, as a hitter, if, like comparing you to Tony Gwynn, you make these lofty comparisons, Typically they're unfair because, like, the best of the best, they do it over a course. You know, Tiger for a decade kicked everyone's ass. Tom Brady did it for 15, 20 years. Right. Some of these guys, they have such long careers of dominance. And, you know, Scotty's really been doing it coming into this year for like a year and a half at the highest level, which is incredible, which is very, very hard to do with the sport. And if you look historically, a lot of hall of fame golfers just that have had great, long careers take advantage of like, 24 months. And if you look at some major stretches, like guys that have won three or two majors, they usually do it over like two calendar years. And you just never know. Golf's really hard. I mean, at one point in time, you would have thought Rory back in 2014 would have won 10 majors. You would have said the same thing for Jordan Spieth. I'm watching Jordan Spieth yesterday, watching the final round at Memorial. I mean, the guy has got to be the most entertaining golfer of all time. I mean, on any given moment, he can hit someone in the head with a golf ball or have a putt for like a seven footer for Eagle. You have no clue what's coming at any moment. It is the ultimate roller coaster ride. And Scotty Scheffler currently is the Complete opposite. You know exactly what you're getting. He's not only the heavy favorite to win next week at Oakmont, I think I speak for everybody. It'd be shocking if he doesn't win. It really would. He's plus 280. And all we ever say about this sport currently is it's never been deeper. There's never been more talent. We say the same thing about the NBA. And while I'd probably agree in terms of basketball, there probably has never been more individual talent and more skilled guys in the sport. It's not an individual sport. It's a team game. And now with the mercenary kind of element of basketball, you got guys jumping all over the place. So there's no cohesion. With teams, I'd argue, like, top to bottom, there have never been more, I don't know, worse teams, but just more chaotic situations. Even talented teams aren't as good because they haven't played together for long. When I grew up on the NBA, for example, it was like baseball and basketball. You had core groups that played together for a long time, and you got to build cohesion. Where in golf, it doesn't really matter. It's just yourself. You're just playing yourself. And the thing about team sports, like, let's use the basketball analogy, Oklahoma City, they're clearly really good. So when they have one guy has an off night. When you're an elite team, you got other guys to pick you up. We've seen it in college sports forever. Like, it's really easy to go on a run when you have a roster like 2019 LSU football, or those couple years of Georgia football with all the NFL players they had, or Jim Harbaugh's team two years ago at Michigan, or the decade worth of Nick Saban's teams, they were dramatically better than everyone else. And there was maybe a game or two throughout the season where the competition was going to be close to equal we've seen in college basketball for a long time. Some hell this year with Duke, they don't win at all. But it was clear every game they played, except maybe two or three, they were clearly better than the other team. So even if some random shit happens, the margin for error, because we got five guys on the court or 11 guys on the field in football is going to be on my side in golf. There's a huge randomness to the sport, right? What if you're just feeling shitty that day? I was thinking this yesterday when I was recording a podcast on Sunday. I'm like, I don't Think my brain's working. Like, was this podcast the worst podcast I've ever done in my entire life? But, like, it's whatever. We have five, six days a week, doing podcasts every single week, all year long, year after year. It's like, okay, just keep on swinging in golf like you play in these tournaments, as Scotty's doing. You have four days. What if just one day you're just feeling like crap? What if one day, like, the bounces don't go your way, instead of like hitting two yards farther and bouncing five feet away from the hole, it kicks back and you get plugged in the bunker and instead of getting a birdie, you get a double bogey. And that's the reason maybe you don't make the cut. That's just not happening to Scottie Scheffler at all. It's what was so amazing about Tiger woods, which people said forever. His most amazing accomplishment of his career was his consecutive cut streak. He never missed the cut. Why? Because, like, obviously he was the best player. But to me, that spoke. It didn't mean he won every week, because he didn't. I mean, if you're an all time golfer and you're even getting close to winning like 10% of the time, that's an incredible clip. Yet Tigers give a shit factor was really, really high. He took everything really, really seriously. And I would say the same thing about Scottie Scheffler, which early in the year he gave him a little bit of benefit of the doubt because he had the injury to his hand and everything was just a little off. You're like, it's golf. Cut his hand, kind of a freak deal. And then right around the Masters, it felt like, is this going to be Rory's year? He wins a pebble, he wins the players, and then he finally wins the Masters. You're like, is Rory about to have like five or six wins this season and a couple majors and kind of steal the throne back from Scotty? And Scotty, to quote Lee Corso, said, not so fast, my friend. Pump the fucking brakes. Then he goes to the CJ cup in a field that, let's face it, not very good. And you're like, listen, this is a warm up for the PGA Championship. He'll probably win. But even if he doesn't, as long as he gets some good momentum, finishes in the top five, not only does he win, he wins by eight shots. Then he goes to the PGA where he wins by five shots. So in two straight weeks, he wins tournaments by a combined 13 shots. And then he goes to last two weeks ago at the Colonial. Ben Griffin wins, but it's not like Scotty just mailed it in. The craziest part about this guy is like he never just has a random week where he finishes like 35th. He finished fourth that week, then comes into this week, defending champ, no big deal, I'll win easily. And as Jack Nicklaus said is like, yeah, you know, Ben Griffin, Sepstraka, Nick Taylor, nice players, but let's be honest, they're not in Scotty's league. Seb struck one this year. Ben Griffin literally just won last week and he just dismissed them and so does Scotty. Kicked his ass. Even though I actually think Ben Griffin wasn't terrible. Couple wayward shots or he's right there. But what he's doing right now, in an individual sport where you have no one to bail you out, like, if you're just feeling like shit, if you didn't sleep well, if, I don't know, we've all played golf, you just don't have it. I heard Scott Van Pelt say this, I think a couple weeks ago on his podcast. He's like the most impressive thing always was about Tiger is like, he didn't have it every week, but there were some rounds where most guys would have ended up shooting 74, 75, and essentially lost the tournament on like a Thursday or Friday because either they missed the cut or they've been too far back. And Tiger was always able to find like, you know what? I'm not shooting 74 today. I'm going to end up shooting 70. I'm not shooting 76 today, I'm shooting 72. And you just keep kind of your head above water. And Scotty right now has, I mean, Rory at any moment, if you tell me, like on an individual week, mails it in, finishes 35th, like, totally believable. Xander, I'm giving him a little benefit of the doubt this year because of the rib injury. Like, it's kind of a tough injury to play through. He was incredible last year. He's been one of the better players in the world. Clearly not quite himself this year, but. And it's hard, you know, with, with Bryson and Rom not playing with these guys every single week. But what Scotty's doing, like, I, I thought we were obviously witnessing an all time great player, but like the Tiger comparisons, the Jack, like, this is if he goes to win at Oakmont, to have these back to back years of winning at this clip and just kicking the shit out of Everybody, I understand Rory wasn't there last week, but every player other than Rory was trying to beat this guy. And he's just curb stomping the Justin Thomases, the Xander's, like, it's not even close. The Patrick camp lays. These guys are all going to be like on the Ryder cup team with him. And they're just so Jack's taking this, this line of the Ben Griffins, the Sepstraka's aren't in his league. Like, nobody's in his league. Rory turns out not in his league. Like, none of these guys are. So the guys that are right behind him on the Ryder cup list, the Xanders, the Justin Thomases, like, it's not even close. It's not a fair fight. In a sport that, like, there is just some randomness that even if you get hot, you kind of come back to earth. It's pretty crazy to witness. I mean, I'm watching yesterday kicking myself like, why didn't you put an astronomical amount of money on this guy? And every time I talk myself out of it, it's like, ah, this is going to be the week. And then he goes and wins. And speaking of a guy like, you know, did Rory, once he won the Masters, was it cool to just mail it in? Was it like, whatever, none of it actually matters after that. Did he accomplish everything he needed to winning the career grand slam? Did the driver thing really kind of derail him? I don't quite know. But I really believed after the Masters, this guy feels like. And he even said, I'm playing the best golf in my life. Obviously Scotty was not going to go winless on the year, but like the way Scotty had been playing, it's like they're equals. And if anything, in 2025, Rory had been the best player in the world. And then everything that transpired over the last couple weeks is like, this is kind of the reason I like, I enjoy watching him. But I do understand the criticism that like, comes his way over. Like, sometimes you're a front runner. And this is why Morikawa took a lot of crap. It's like you got to handle the good times, like you got to handle the bad times. You know, coaches and players and all these other team sports don't just get to hide when they lose, right? They are forced to kind of to wear it. Jalen Brunson and Tom Thibodeau didn't just not get to speak after they get curb stomped by the Pacers in game six. And in an individual sport that is driven by Four or five guys. I mean, let's face it, the sport of golf is, and its health is really determined right now by Scotty Scheffler, Rory McIlroy and probably Bryson DeChambeau. You could honestly probably cut it off at 3 now. You could factor in Xander and Rom and Justin Thomas and a couple other names. But I mean truly like three guys that truly matter in terms of television ratings, in terms of true interest. And Rory's right at the top. And for him to disappear. About the driver thing, and I don't pretend to have all the answers. Lucas Glover, who has like, like Rocco Media, they do afternoon shows on Sirius xm and he had said last week that some guys put two drivers in their bag because they know the driver they want is probably going to fail. So they give the other one that might also fail and almost like sacrifice it, even though they know knew they were never going to use it. Bottom line, I don't actually care. It doesn't bother me. It's not even that big a deal, clearly the way it's been described. But to just go MIA a couple weeks ago and then when Scotty had the same thing happen to him, and then this week, like, listen, I'm not expecting you to bow at the feet of Jack Nicklaus, but to bow out of the signature event, which a couple years ago Rory was really fighting for all these guys to be involved. And then clearly everything that's transpired over the last 12 plus months, Rory kind of felt like he got backstabbed. So now he's like pushing against, which I also understand too. But Jack had nothing to do with that. To not just call the guy and say, hey, Jack, I'm not going to make your tournament when he has personally helped you strategically and you've talked to him for attacking Gusta over the last couple years, I just thought was kind of an embarrassing look and the type of look for a guy that, and maybe at this point in time he truly doesn't care about any of this stuff and he'll speak because he's playing the Canadian Open this week. I just think some of this stuff is pretty easily avoidable if you're Rory McIlroy and it'll be interesting to watch. Like, does he just mail in the rest of the year? You know, I don't even know what my expectations are for him at Oakmont. You could convince me that he's right there in the mix. And you could also convince me that he's just kind of a non factor and finishes like 28th I think it's one of those that if you told me, like, he got over the mountaintop and he's just cool with it. Totally understandable. And I think it's what we all currently respect the most about Scotty is he has, like, this Tiger, Jordan Brady, like, drive. Ted Scott has been saying it like, it's not about the money. Now, I don't necessarily think, like, Rory's competing for the money either, but, like, Scotty's just completely driven to win golf tournaments. And it was Tiger's greatest quality. It was Tom Brady's greatest quality. It was Michael's greatest quality. When the tournament, when the game started, he was going to do everything humanly and is possible to win, whether it was against a shitty team or whether it was against a really great team. And Tiger was the same way whether it was a major or whether it was some random tourney. And Scotty clearly is bringing that to the table right now. And I think you could question, like, Rory clearly. And listen, he said before it's all about the majors, which I understand, but, like, I don't know if in an individual sport like golf you can truly approach it like that. I do think there's a level of taking, you know, things seriously. And I don't know, I mean, it makes me nervous as a guy who's supported the player over the years. Like, I kind of understand what other people are saying sometimes it's like, why you got, like, live this week they're going to D.C. the Robert Trent Jones Golf Club. And I think Bryson's who is the defending champ next week at the U.S. open. And if his irons are just somewhat on, they're definitely something to keep an eye on this week. He's a good example. He has played really well at in live tournaments. He's won countless, and he takes it really seriously. Like, golf and competing mean a lot to him. Now, you can say whatever you want, you know, about. I like his YouTube stuff. I find it funny. But one thing you know, and this is why Bryson had so much success the last couple years in the majors is like, it means a lot for him to compete. And I think John Rom people started questioning, like, what's kind of going on. And I looked his last two live events, he's finished T7 and fourth. So it shouldn't be shocking that a couple weeks ago at the PGA Championship, he was essentially tied with the back nine to go. Now, it kind of unraveled on in the last three or four holes, but Jon Rahm has had a Lot of success at the U.S. open. He's a former U.S. open champ at Torrey Ponds. To me coming into this at Oakmont, if Jon Rahm plays well this week and you tell me he finishes top four or five in D.C. at live, I will kind of like the momentum and a lot like Bryson. The difference is like whether Bryson finishes second at LIV or eighth at live or whatever, I know when it comes to a major he's going to bring it, especially American majors. The British can be a little weird with the weather situation. So you never know. It can be a little random. But when it comes to the Masters, the PGA Championship and specifically the US Open, which is always going to have a rough problem, something that he is going to have a huge advantage of because of his strength and ability to hit out of it. And one of the big stories at Oakmont is like they're growing the rough into the player. Well, they could be growing into the player. They could be growing away from the player. They could be growing at 8ft tall. It's going to be advantage Bryson every single time hitting into the rough. And what's the reality at a U.S. open? Everyone's going to miss fairways. So Jon Rahm is a good example of like same type deal. Really strong, potent driver of the golf ball. I'm really interested to keep an eye on him this week in D.C. and kind of see how he's trending because if he plays well, listen, I'm hammering Scotty for Oakmont. But to me and Bryson now is an auto hammer, you know, from a gambling perspective when it comes to especially the PGA Championship in the US Open to win in the top five. To me, Jon Rahm, after showing how well he played at the PGA Championship plays well at D.C. i think I'm all over. So listen, if you ever get the chance to go to D.C. if you, if you want to go watch one of these tournaments, obviously they got electric atmospheres. In June you can buy your live tickets and@livegolf.com that's livgolf.com or if you can't make it there, if you, if you don't live out there in D.C. you can follow along. Live will be on Fox Sports. That's Fox Big Fox this weekend. So follow along. The NBA Finals are here and this is your last chance to bet on the NBA until next season. And the DraftKings sportsbook and official sports betting partner of the NBA is pulling out all the stops to make it a finals to remember one team will be crowd the champ and the other will be lost to history. 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Okay, let's go. Mailbag at GoPod. At GoLoop is the Mailbag. Let's fire some questions. Love the pod question in the comment. Curious your thoughts on the resurgence of the mini driver? Are you the type that dabbles with building clubs or testing different lofts, lie angles, different shafts? The answer is no. But to push back on that, I gladly would. We just need to have a club sponsor that wants to dabble or let me dabble. And I gladly would, but as of right now, I don't really. The whole no talking fiasco with Rory is why some detractors are when things are going good, he loves the app, but when things are going bad, he ducks. So what we just talked about. Totally agree. You know, you can't just pump your chest out when things are going well. You got to be there when things are going poorly. In any walk of life, professionally, personally, from people that are married or in serious relationships. You know, it's. Nothing is easier in life when things are going in a positive direction in business, with your kids, with your family. And nothing is more difficult when things are headed in the wrong direction and things get tough because no one wants to deal with it. But part of being a grown up, part of being a professional is handling it. And I would say Rory, for Whatever reason is just kind of ducked lately. It's weird. Golf question idea. What if the PGA Tour let popular YouTube golfers like Rick Shields good, good golf and Grant Horvat play in a non major pro tournament. It would create massive online viewership and interest in the non majors. Your thoughts? I don't know if that's the case because if you let those guys play because of their television deals, they wouldn't let those guys broadcast their rounds on YouTube. So they would be playing just like any other player in the tournament. Now they might get shown a time or two on Thursday and Friday. I'm assuming none of them would make the cut. I mean Wesley Bryant could. The other guys, Grant, none of them could make the cut of an event but they wouldn't be on TV really. So maybe it would help to get some tickets right to for people to purchase tickets at the event. But like the difference of live golf for example and the PGA Tour is Liv has done the Creator Classic and they put it on Grant Horvath's channel. And then they put it on. I think they're putting it on the Brian Bros channel. This next one coming up I would imagine they will eventually put it on Bob Does Sports channel. The PGA Tour did it. They put it on their own channel. They didn't broadcast on those guys channels. So it's like part of utilizing them is you have to utilize them what their strength is, which is their YouTube audience. So I hear what you're saying and I, I understand like Grant has been invited to play at the Barracuda which is in Reno at Old Greenwood, which is a really really hard course. And when he had Scotty Scheffler on, he had mentioned like, you know, I don't really feel comfortable doing it. And Scotty's like you got to take it, just do it. Who cares. And I agree with that but I don't think that's going to add viewership or not in terms of him playing which again no shade to Grant has no chance to make the cut rule changes for the Tour Championship is stupid. Why not go to match play? And it seems it doesn't reward the season long play. So the Tour Championship which changes rules in the middle of a season, which is kind of crazy, it'd be like the NFL in November 1st being like actually we're going to the seventh wild card team no longer is going to exist and we're also going to recede. And winning the division does not guarantee you a spot that would never happen. And that's you Know kind of what the golf world we're in right now, it's kind of just a fly by the seat of your pants. So I'm not surprised though, the staggered start, it can't happen anymore. So if you're going to have the golf playoffs be the last three weeks of the season, in the playoffs, you can get beat, right? The Boston Celtics and the Cleveland Cavaliers were the one and two seed. They got beat, they got told, see, adios, have a good night. The Lakers were the three seed. They got beat in the first round. Part of the playoffs is like, I don't know, you can lose, you know, And I. Last year, the Ravens, they were the number one overall seed hosting the Chiefs, and they lost. So, like, what Scottie Scheffler has done during the season is incredible. But if you're going to have a quote unquote the playoffs, he should be able to lose. The problem with match play is for a television standpoint, having Scotty or Rory get beat in the third round and not make it to the semifinals in the finals is not great for television. It's basically why the match play events have been scrapped. There's a randomness to it. Like Scottie Scheffler in match play can lose to. Let's say there are 50 players, let's say the final 50, you go to match play, right? 25, verse 25. And you just work your way to the champion. He could lose in the first round and he could play well. And some guy just chips in, makes a couple long putts, all of a sudden he's lost. You know, that's the difference. Like yesterday there'd be like a three shot swing or even a two shot swing, right? So one whole Ben Griffin bogeys, Scotty birdies. And it goes from like he's eight under, Ben Griffin seven under. All of a sudden Scotty's nine under and Ben Griffin's six under. It's a two shot swing. One match plays just one hole. So it doesn't. I can get a double bogey, you get a double eagle. Who gives a shit? I just, I just don't think match play is really on the table. I think a bigger issue and a lot of other golf people have talked about this is like, should we try to go to Pebble Beach? Why don't we do the event at pebble beach in the middle of August when it's beautiful? No more Tour Championship in Atlanta. Like, I'd be okay with that. But it feels like for the foreseeable future is where it's going to be was listening to Scotty interview about when they tested the driver and it failed. He said he kind of figured it was coming because I've been using that driver for a year and a half. If players are aware it could be coming, why would they just change out their driver on their one or two tourneys before a major? So that you don't get into a Rory spraying the ball everywhere with a brand new driver. He hasn't broke in yet. Don't know if Rory would have won, but it seems like he could have made it interesting and avoided the situation. That's a good question. Maybe Rory didn't see it coming. I mean, we'll see what his quotes are this week. I would imagine he's going to not want to talk about it, but who knows? I do understand that if like, okay, I see it coming, but I feel really comfortable with this driver that I'm just going to make it where they take it away from me. But I'm with you. Why would you even risk that? Especially if you're for Scotty. The driver is not the most potent club in his bag. Obviously he's a great driver of the pole. But if like he just had to change his irons the week before, it would be a huge story. And that's the equivalent of Rory, who's a dominant driver though golf ball.
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John Middlekauff
I do believe this. You know baseball. I don't watch as much baseball now as I used to. But if I think you cork your bat, I can, I can look at the umpire and have them check your bat, right? If I think you have something in your glove, some sort of substance to help you get spin on the baseball, I can again, I might be screwing up exactly what the rules are. Now, I could have my manager or first base coach or whoever go to the umpire and have them check the pitcher, right? Maybe once a game, twice a game, whatever. And it's why pitchers always get mad when they don't have anything in there. But you never know when it's going to come. If in golf, if there's 150 people in a tournament and they only check 50 of the 150 seems a little random. And I heard a lot of people say, and I do agree, either check everybody or check nobody. You can't just have this randomized event because if it's a random event, how many guys in the tournament then are able to play with a driver that is non conforming. If like, you know, in a baseball game there's no way they're going to check for any sort of substance in my glove as a pitcher. Well, I'm going to put some in there if I know I'm not going to get checked. So imagine some of the golfers that whenever the date passes where they're like, well, no one checked me, I'm good to go. So you just play the driver. That's non conforming if you're playing with it. And again, non conforming. From what I've read, it's like an extra yard. So it's not like the difference of hitting it 300 and 350 yards. But like, this is the problem with golf and kind of the business they're in. There are so many open ended situations. Either draw a line in the sand, do this or that. It's like, yeah, we'll just kind of do this. It's where we get back to, you know, one of the strongest parts about the. Let's use the NFL as an example. Like, there's pretty strong structure. These are the rules. This is what you can do. This is what you can't do. It doesn't mean you agree with everything. Some of the fines are ridiculous, some of the penalties are stupid. But like, it is what it is, right? In golf is like, well, yeah, like you can't really. We kind of have to show up. We don't have to show up. We kind of have to talk to the media. I don't feel like talking to the media. It's like, guys are, can we all move in the same direction? Part of like, you know, a rowboat. You can't have one guy rolling one way and the other guy rolling the other way. Can we all row in the same direction? And I think sometimes in golf like you get all these independent contractors and I heard, I heard Lucas Glover say this as well. He's like, I talk to the media whether I played well or not if I'm asked. And obviously he's not on the level of these guys. But like we're all independent contractors here. So legally, like by the of our, whatever our contracts or deals with the PGA Tour, we don't have to do anything. Like, yeah, well, don't have to do anything. But when you're the star, you're the guy generating all the money and the reason you're the richest guy is because they kind of need you leading the charge. Like, did Tiger always have to talk? Of course not. But did he understand that he was the guy printing the money for everybody and he was the guy benefiting the Most making the most of it on and off the course. So I just think some of these guys kind of get caught up in these like one on one battles with the media or the social media narratives. Like, come on, let's see the bigger picture here, which I understand can be difficult. But Roy's 35 years old. A hidden gem for a Great Golf Weekend. St. George, Utah, between Sand Hollow Entrada in the brand new Black Desert just hosted the PGA and lpga, plus a bunch of other courses. It's awesome. I've heard good things. I mean I saw the Bob Does Sports and Grant and all those guys were there. I've had friends. My brother in law, Matt went on a trip last year to St. George. He went in the summer and it was hot, but he said it was the most beautiful course he's been doing a long time. So I'm with you. I've never been. I always thought when I was scouting, when I was at Fresno State, we played Utah State and that in Utah, driving through Salt Lake and up through Utah, it's in Logan. Utah is some of the most beautiful country in America. It really is. I mean Utah has areas in its state that, you know, everyone's like California, most beautiful state. There are areas in Utah that I would put right there with like Lake Tahoe. I mean it's just, it's just absolutely gorgeous. The drive going to Logan, Utah from Salt Lake City is, is absolutely beautiful. So I don't know exactly where St. George is. I think it is in South Utah. I did watch Mom Mom Talk the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, which I, I don't recommend unless you want to just feel terrible about yourself, like why am I watching this? But somehow I did watch it and in a weird way kind of enjoyed it. But it is, it is beautiful area. It's clean, it's, it's fresh air and obviously great golf. Speaking of Utah, I'm from Salt Lake City and live near Tony Finau. I follow him fairly closely but never get my hopes up on him winning a major, in my opinion. And statistically, his putting is absolutely God awful. Wondering if you've ever noticed this. Also, what do you think stops a golfer of his caliber who clearly needs to fix his putting from simply copying the guys he plays with every week? Tony is a top notch iron player and driver of the golf ball, but he can't putt still. He never tries out a new putter or a putting stroke. I don't get it. Putting is like shooting a free throw. Rhythm and repetition is Finau, the shack of putting. You know, it's funny, I think he splits time between Arizona and Utah. And I see him, I've probably seen him out of TPC Scottsdale, I don't know, 10, 15 times. Sometimes he's with his younger son, who looks like he's got defensive tackle written all over him. And I swear, most times when I see him out there. Now, the pros, there's the driving range where just us normal people hit and they go to the back. And I can always tell, like, Max Homa. You can tell Tony just by their swing, right? You know, 350 yards away. I don't have a great eyesight, but every time I'm out there, Tony's on the putting green, and I've gone where I've hit some balls. You can see Tony back there on the putting green. And then I go play. And by the time I get to the eighth hole at TPC Scottsdale, you can see the. The PGA Tour players putting green where they are, and he's still there, so. And again, this is not. I mean, you can count on two hands how many times I've seen this. But, like, I've seen the guy working on his game. I've said the same thing about Max. Like, even when Max is playing shitty, I've seen him out there practicing for hours. So it's like I couldn't last on a putting green more than 20 minutes. Now, I'm not saying just because, like, of course, he's a pro golfer. My point is, I do think he tries and works on it. Putting is just. I don't know. He just. I think I saw a highlight. Honestly, it looked like AI at Memorial. He putted. He had a birdie, and he put it with one hand. And it wasn't from like a foot away. It was like 25ft. I think sometimes he just. I don't know, you know, part of what Shaq shooting free throws, his hands were so big. So it's like, it's easier for me or you to shoot a basketball because our hands are smaller, right? But for Shaquille o' Neal, the ball felt more like a baseball in his hands, which made some sense. But Rick Barry used to say, hey, I will teach you to shoot underhand. But Shaq didn't want to not look cool. Who knows? Imagine if Shaq was like a 85% free throw shooter. He would have been unstoppable because you couldn't gone to hack Shaq, where I do think putting, like, there are enough guys that just can't really putt for whatever reason. And I don't think it's all just touch or whatever because clearly he has some touch. I don't know, I just Some guys are just bad putters. I'm not a great putter. Maybe there is something in to not having a system. I don't know. You'd have to ask him why some guys are just more serviceable at putting now. Some guys get hot right that aren't good putters but it is clearly has held Tony back from winning a lot more tournaments in his career. Blending Vice's signature dynamic storytelling with the high octane world of sports, Vice Sports brings an exciting and diverse range of programming that goes beyond the game. 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John Middlekauff
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Dan Flores
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John Middlekauff
Listen to the American west with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. What are your thoughts on Brandle Chamblee as a golf media personality? Love him. I think he's in all of sports. He's just in terms of like television analysts, not like a guy that gives opinions like in the sense of, you know, Collins a radio host or a podcast host. I'm talking just a guy that is, you know, on Events, calling them. He's. I think he's the best in the business, any sport, I really do. I think Troy Aikman's got his swag back in football, but I think Brandle's pretty unique and I think sometimes the players shit on him where it's like Brand will just kind of speak. You know, Brando could talk like a normal fan in terms of being critical. Like, that's just not good enough. But he also, like, the dude was on PG Tour for a while. Like, it's not like he's just some random Joe Schmo. It wouldn't be just like me sitting up there at the US Open being like, this guy just can't hit his sand wedges. And the guy would look at me like, fuck, neither can you. You're five handicap. You know, this guy was a PGA Tour player, good player. Piss a lot of people off. I. I thoroughly enjoy him, but he's my type of entertainment. Like, I. I want someone to say what I'm witnessing. Now he can get a little into the weeds, you know, in terms of golf swing and stuff. But like, I think a lot of his opinions over the years, like, I don't agree with him on like, at this point in time, the live stuff, it's like, bro, I do not care. How do you still care this much? But you know the Koepka thing, I remember he used to get in like, why isn't Brooks. Why doesn't he try harder in these major, these non majors? Like, he could have been like an all time great player, win all these majors and then kick ass in a bunch of PGA events. And him and Brooks used to kind of get into it. It's like, I think you kind of need some of that. My job allows me to have a ton of free time, so I try to play every day, whether it's on the course or the range. Currently a 12 handicap. Where. Were there any drills that help you take your game to the next level? Yeah, I mean, you're most people, I would say even I like golf a lot. I haven't played in a couple of weeks, but I don't really do drills. The only time I could ever do a drill would be if I got a lesson. But on my own, I just. One thing I've really tried to work on is play less golf, swing and play more golf. And I did it for the first time last week in Tahoe, and I played my best in a long, long time. I just plan. I didn't think about my golf swing like My hands here, here. Just. Just swing. Swing hard. Now, I'm probably a little better than you, but I think if you have questions, I would get a golf lesson and then he could give you some basic tips that you think about. But for the most part, like, I don't really do drills. I would say if you're a 12 handicap, the quickest way to get better would be to hit fairways. So work on the driver and short game. Like, if you can be a good chipper. Putting is a little random, but, like, if you can give yourself opportunities around the green, you can improve quickly, but you got to hit fairways because it's really hard to score whether you're 2 handicap or whether you're 12 handicap in the fucking trees in the rough. I recently started to get into golf. I'm shooting low to mid 30s. It appears to me it's a very mental sport. What tips would you have or you have heard for a better mental approach to the game? Hoping to shoot plus 18 by the end of the summer. So basically 90, I think. You know, there are strategy stuff that if you watch, like, golf probably more than the other sports. One, most of us aren't playing. Like, once you get to 30, 40, 50 years old, maybe some of you are playing pickup basketball, but no one's playing tackle football. You know, even slow pitch softball is not nearly the same as, like, normal baseball. So golf's the only sport that you could play exactly like the pros. Like, you can go to the courses they play and play their tees. Now, it doesn't mean obviously you're as good as them, but you can play the same game even though it's a little different. They got grandstands and they get kind of bullshit drops, but you know what I mean? I would say two things that, for me, that I do not like core strategy. Like, hey, I want to hit in the middle of the green. Don't take on that bunker. Like, it totally depends on the course you're playing. I have a tendency to hurry, hurry, hurry. That's just my natural personality. Go, go, go. So if I have like a double bogey and I'm playing with it, most people I play with, it's ready golf. Even if you're playing for money every once in a while, you know, obviously if a guy gets a birdie, you give him the tea. But, you know, if you're at the T first, let it rip, keep it moving. It's like sometimes if you're kind of amped up and you haven't, you Just had a shitty hole, let other people hit first. And I saw Rory say this, and I think about this sometimes. He's like, close your mouth and breathe through your nose. It just slows everything down. Because golf is, I think, has the most in common with like baseball and kicking and football is. It's a lot more thinking than it is actual action. So when you get really amped up and the heart, you know, the harder you try at golf, sometimes the worse you can get. So sometimes slowing down because I think our natural reaction. Think about, you know, on a driving range, just say, I give you 20 balls. And I say, here, here's an eight iron. You'll just hit 20 balls. Eight iron. You could bag those out in a couple minutes. Just swing, swing, swing, swing. Well, you don't play golf like that. You know, Jack Nicklaus has always said, like he used to practice, kind of like he played. You hit a shot, take a little time. Some of the great players have said this, though. When you just watch, like these guys on Golf Channel at the, the majors, they're just hitting ball after ball. So it's not totally realistic, but I think sometimes be cognizant of like just rushing, rushing, rushing. You know, slow play is a big deal on the PGA Tour. I think sometimes it's the opposite for the average golfer is they, they, they go too quickly. You know, just take a little. I'm not saying play like Patrick Cantlay, but just take a deep breath. Something I really try to work on. Big fan, newish golfer. I live in Phoenix and mostly only play in Phoenix. At what point do we call out the astronomical prices they charge out here? Or is it simply a supply demand thing that we have to accept? Would love to hear your take on the cost of golf in Arizona compared to elsewhere. Golf's really expensive no matter where you play, right? So if you're playing a quote, unquote, better course, you know, I think the day and age of playing just random public tracks for 20, 30 bucks are really, really hard to find. So, you know, in, in Arizona, a crappy public course cost you like 150 bucks at least during the six months when it's not 115 degrees. You can find cheaper golf when it gets hot, but, you know, just being in Lake Tahoe. It was the second day open of this course called Grays Crossing. It's the one right next to Old Greenwood where they have the PGA event in the fall. And again, they had been closed the entire winter because of this thing called snow. So they opened on Friday we played Sunday. Now it was in pretty damn good shape relative to being shut down because of a harsh winter. Cost $200 a pop. And as the summer months go and it gets sunnier, that course I think charges well over $300. So the round of golf, like I was talking to Maria or she had mentioned this to me yesterday about like they were talking about the prices of housing in like a team meeting or something. And I think it's easy for anyone in the, in the housing world to go like, God, this is what this guy paid in 2016. It's like, this is what this guy paid in 2014. It's like, yeah, it's 20, 25. And the cost of, you name me the neighborhood, that's what it is now. Now maybe with higher interest rates you could lowball the guy for 30, 40, 50 grand. But okay, so it's $900,000 home. Let's say you end up getting it for 850, you can be mad all day long. Well, he only paid 450 for this seven years ago. Well, yeah, he did. If you want to live in that home now, hopefully you can get it for 850. He's still going to make $400,000. You hopefully will too. You just might have to hold on to it for a little longer than he did. Right. And hopefully things go well in that area. And I think at golf people bitch and moan all the time about these prices. And I see it, I mean for four or five months a year at TPC Scottsdale, I mean with taxes and everything, they're charging almost $600, which is fucking insane. I really like the course. I enjoy playing out there now. I pay for it. It's not like they give it to me for free. But I have played out there now for almost three years. Should it be that much? Of course not. But when I go out there in the popular months, it is packed and everyone's paying that. I live next to Greyhawk. It's a little cheaper, maybe after taxes like 550 bucks. Same thing. If you went out there in February or March or November, it is Friday, Saturday, Sunday, jam packed and even the weekdays. Now these are higher end public tracks, but even pick your random public track in just somewhat of a populated area. I think it's going to be very difficult for you not to look at the price and go, let's say, let's say the number is $180 to play the course going, God, this used to be $50. Yeah, did and now it's not. And you look at their T shirt and it's packed. So I'm with you. I think it's, it's the easiest thing to complain about. Like, this is fucking nuts. But people are paying. I see it like, you know, hopefully get a family. You know, I want to join a country club to have a place to go hang out. The prices for where I grew up in like Northern California, places like Olympic Club, Sacramento. I don't even know what the best course would be. It'd be like Del Paso or whatever. But the course my brother belongs to, I think he paid like $5,000 to join. That's what it cost to join the country club he's a member at. You couldn't dream of finding a decent country club around here for under 100 grand. And the cool ones, I mean, are 250 to $500,000. It's like, is this fucking Augusta National? And the answer is no, it's not. But it's like, well, we have a seven year waiting list. So it's like, well, I can complain. Or it's like, well, if you ever want to be part of these, these are the going rates and here's the list. So you want to get in line or you want to bitch and moan about on the sideline? And again, back to my house analogy. I've seen so many people like, I don't want to pay this, I don't want to pay this. Well, then you're not going to buy a house then. Probably. I mean, that's probably what's going to transpire. Because if you're hoping for the days of like 2008 for the house you've been eyeballing, it's like, I'm not spending a million dollars on that. I'm not spending $700,000 that you think it's going to be like 350 grand or that million dollar house one day you're going to look up after disaster and it's going to be $600,000. Probably not going to happen. So I just, I'm done complaining about it. I don't disagree with what you're saying because the numbers are high. But, but we're not going back. I'm not, you know, I wasn't an economics major in college, but I've learned enough over the last decade. Plus, when you hear these people that know what they're talking about, talk about inflation, when inflation slows down, it doesn't mean that the whatever you paying for now that was $40 goes back to $27. It just no longer goes from 40 to 45. So I think the prices are kind of the prices. It's a good topic though. Scotty Scheffler becoming an all time great. Do you believe he will have the longevity with his swing? Every time he swings, it's almost if he's rolling an ankle. By the way, get a hold of Bryson or Grant Horvat for a video sometime. I would love to have Bryson on the pod. I would say the thing with Scotty, he doesn't roll his ankle and his footwork is unconventional, but when you look at Tiger, he was very, very hard on his knees and his back and clearly the car accident in LA had nothing to do with that. But his fused back, his broken, torn ACLs, and part of that was the Navy SEAL stuff. I think Scotty is closer to Phil Mickelson where he's a little more fluid and lumber. You know, Phil's never had an injury. Think about Phil. Doesn't mean he's always played well, but he's never hurt. They're like, oh, Phil's going to be out for eight months. Back injury. If anything, Phil's just battled weight issues but never been hurt. Now, I remember hearing Bones talk about this one time, look at his swing, look how fluid it is. And it's not. He's. Listen, I'm no biomechanic guy, but kind of, right. I think there are elements like, yes, Scotty's feet move weird, but I actually think it's easier on his back. So Scotty stays healthy. Feels like he's going to be closer to 10 majors than he is three or four. A month ago you talked about switching your iron grips from jumbo to standard. We talked briefly about the benefits it would have if you weren't getting around the ball, how the switch turn out. It was great because I. I'm like Jared Goff or Derek Carr, you know, I have smaller hands, so I want to grip. I want to have a weaker grip. So it's much easier for me to get my right hand over. And you know, when you watch Scotty, he grips it a couple times. Xander the same way. It's pretty underrated. How important a good golf grip is. That is one thing. I've watched a lot on YouTube and I've taken it to the range, mess around. When I do grip it correctly and get my right hand farther over on my left hand, I hit the ball much more solid. It feels weird, but it works. And for people with bigger hands, I think it's easier for them just to grip over it. For me with the bigger grips, it's like I can't even get my hand over there. And I just saw it. 76, I wasn't playing the tips, but I was playing really well. I would have, I would have broke 80 from the tips. And to me that's all I'm looking for. If I play the tips, any course. If I break 80, I've played well. And at my point in time in golf, like that's I'm playing golf to have fun and do content eventually. I don't really care about being a scratch golfer. If I'm just a 2, 3, 4, 5 range, you know, when I'm playing a lot, get a little closer. When I'm not be a 5, I'm fine with that. Here's another question about Scotty. I read that only three people have 15 PGA Tour wins and three major championships before the age 29. Tiger, Jack, Scotty, he's clearly an all time talent and he's young. How many majors could he win? Could he ever get to 10? To me, I think 10's I think 10 is kind of the number. And I think if he got to 10, that'd be pretty legendary. I think if he wins at Oakmont, he's in pretty good shape. I mean if he wins at Oakmont, it would feel inevitable that he's going to win the career Grand Slam. Also, why the number of major championship wins by Jack and Tiger so unreachable? Will someone ever get above 10 wins in our lifetime? Well, the level of competition for Jack, I mean three or four top guys, but you know, he came in at Arnold, was older, Lee Trevino was probably his, you would call his rival. You know, Johnny Miller came around in the 70s, I guess Jack won a major in his, in his mid-40s, in the 80s. But even Tiger, I mean he faced Ernie Ells, Vijay Singh, Phil Mickelson, Padra. Harrington got hot there for a while. Retief Goosen, I mean there were some big time players, but I do think the depth of talent and in golf in an individual sport like that's more impressive. If Scottie were to get to 10 majors, it would feel like he's the modern day Jack or Tiger. Now to me he's more Jack than Tiger because Tiger is one of the greatest, most famous marketable individuals ever. And he was much more energetics, probably the wrong way to describe it, boisterous, just magnetic to watch. I mean there was like. Remember when Barry Bonds in the peak of his steroid use would get up to bat and you're just like, he's gonna break Babe Ruth's record. And you would just watch. You know, you could be at a bar and everyone's head would turn. There was an element like that with Tiger, which there just isn't with Scotty and there never will be. But the only way you can kind of create his version is just by beating everyone constantly. And then you just become the story of like, can anyone beat this guy? You just become Goliath and everyone's David. My question is, what happened to a Berg? I was saying it all last year. The next number one golfer seems like he's never in contention anymore. Well, he got injured, then he got surgery, then he gets really hot and he wins Torrey Pines, which I guess was that actually supposed to be Riv? But because of the fires and then he's played pretty shitty. I think he did just shoot yesterday, like 66 at the memorial. His first signs of life in a while. I also think golf's hard, and that's what makes what Scotty's doing so crazy. Sometimes you get injured, you just start playing off. You just start playing and you're a little off. You know, Aberg's never been a great putter, but I don't know. I don't have a great answer for you. They don't show them on TV as much anymore, so it's hard to watch. What's your opinion on the PGA rolling back some of the modern equipment allowed on Tour? I saw a tweet where Nicholas was quoted talking about today's game compared to golf in the past. Roughly 1995. I think I was born in 96. He was talking about how today's balls go further and it forces courses to lengthen, which only does two things, take longer to play and cost more money. He was saying how back in the day, thousands of courses were able to host events compared to today, only a few hundred. And if balls are going one yard further per year, what happens in 40 years? I saw a video where the Patrick Reed saying he'd like to see driver faces go back to smaller, less forgiving irons. I, I, you could argue I'm unbothered by it. Like, I'm fine with where they're going right now because I don't believe that we'll see a guy driving it 390 yards. It's kind of like baseball. Like they've have they kind of peaked on velocity or are we going to see guys throwing 110, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe in 10 years we'll see like seven guys throwing 108, but, I don't know, like, Bryson clearly hits the ball farther than basically everybody. And, you know, Rory's been chilling at whatever, 320, 330 now for a while, and most of the top guys, so I doubt it happens. But if it does, I'm also not going to complain. I don't really care one way or the other. I guess for the health of the professional game, we would bring in a lot more courses if they hit it whatever, 30 yards shorter. So Rory would go from 330 to 305 and the guys in at 300 would go to 270. It would still be a huge advantage for Rory, for Bryson, for Xander. They're never going back to the, you know, old school equipment in the sense of little driver heads, but they could, you know, lighten the potency of the driver for sure. Watching Ben Griffin win the Colonial made me think, why don't more pros wear sunglasses? I might be a sissy because I don't think I'd get comfortable playing a round of golf on a sunny day without shades. Just strikes me as unusual. What's funny is I was on YouTube after the Saturday round finished, and I saw Ben Griffin giving his press conference. And in the press conference, the headline was like, I believe I can take down Scotty. So I was like, I'll force me to click. And I clicked on it. Then he was asked about the sunglasses. Why, essentially what you're saying he wore sunglasses because he had, I guess, holes in his. I might be describing this incorrectly in his retina. And he says he sees floaters. And I was like, what floaters? What does he mean? He says basically black spots. So in. In the middle of the day when the sun's out, he gets blurry vision. He had to have a laser surgery to just make it so it didn't get any worse. And these sunglasses are prescription that help him not see the floaters, essentially. So he's not wearing these strictly because it's sunny outside. He's doing it because of an eye issue that he had. I'm with you. I like wearing. I don't have great vision. And the Polaroid von zippers or whatever golf glasses I wear help me see. I feel like I do think golfers one, they don't need to watch their ball really, like, off the table. Right. The hardest thing ball to see clearly is off the tee. Because if we're 160 in, even if you don't have great vision. You can see where the ball lands. Yet off the tee, if you hit it decently far 250 plus yards, it's easy to like where's my ball? Where these guys? There's a fucking guy there with a flag and you have a caddy. So even if you don't see that, well, who cares? I the reason he wears them is because of the of the eyes Question about Rory faded into irrelevance after the Masters dodging the media. Where's the fight? It's kind of sad because it did feel like honestly, it's a defining moment for Scotty. It was like he said, no, this is not happening on my watch. This ain't Rory's year. Just because last year was my year, it's going to be my year again. That's why I think we respect so much about the best players. I'm not a LeBron James guy, but I do respect how hard he's worked to maintain his level of play. You know, him and Steph Curry playing at such a high level at 37 and 40 years old, like that takes a lot of grind. That takes a lot of inner fire. It's what defined Brady and Tiger and Jordan and Kobe and Scotty has that clearly. So it's what makes us gravitate towards certain individuals is that Quality AI is redefining what's possible for your business. Are you up for the challenge? Microsoft is helping leaders like you get AI ready faster with unified data and simplified platform management, unlocking up to 150% improved output across industries. Leaders are turning to Microsoft AI tools and guidance to rise to the challenge. For the NBA, that means using AI powered insights to deliver more personalized fan experiences. For BMW, it means innovating their development process safely and securely. 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I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
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John Middlekauff
Across the country, cops call this Taser the Revolution.
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Unknown
But not everyone was convinced it was.
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John Middlekauff
That same cops believed everything that Taser told them.
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Unknown
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John Middlekauff
I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really really bad.
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Unknown
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Dan Flores
The American west with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network podcast. Hosted by me writer and historian Dan Flores and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best selling author and Meat Eater founder Stephen Rinella.
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John Middlekauff
I'll correct my kids now and then where they they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves.
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Dan Flores
So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th where we'll delve into stories of the west and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today.
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John Middlekauff
Listen to the American west with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, last question. Quick question. On Ben Griffin, lots have been made that he was broke out on the golf course for two years. During that time, some friends agreed to stake him for two years while he worked his way through to the PGA Tour, either on Corn Ferry or the pga. What type of financial arrangement would be typical in this case? Would they pay his expenses for two years or get a future cut of his earnings, Just a repayment of the money outlaid or something else? We hear this happening a lot in basketball and football pre nil, where the agent would give the player money to work out ahead of the draft tryouts. But how often does this happen in golf? I think it happens a decent amount in, like, music and individual sports, and specifically in golf because, like in baseball, if I'm in the minor leagues, the team's still paying, right? I'm not making much money, but the team's paying for my housing. The team's paying at least giving me a little stipend. Eat. In golf, no one gives you anything. So if you're kind of a nobody and you don't have a club sponsor, a clothing sponsor, you have no cash coming in. So you need some money to be able to survive. So an example is last year, a couple years ago, Doherty, he plays on the Korn Ferry Tour. He actually lives out here in Arizona. I think Riggs at Barstool met him. He was catting at a country club here, Silverleaf, where rom Place and Fino, and they met him. He liked him. They played it. Maybe it was at Mesa Country Club. I forget. And Riggs kind of heard his story and then played with them and realized he was really good. He didn't have any money. And Riggs gave him $50,000 and didn't even say, like, you don't even need to pay me back. Like, I'm just here to help. And Doherty, I think, was one stroke away from getting his PGA Tour card last year. Made hundreds of thousands of dollars last year on the Korn Ferry. So you get examples of someone just giving you 50 grand, 100 grand. Like there's going to be money that's going to go toward your travel and just to help you live. Then there are the cases Finau is going through this or someone. Basically, I will fund your early career for 10% of your earnings in perpetuity. That deal is fucking terrible if you hit it big, because if you become female, I got to pay this guy for the rest of my life at 10%. Some of these deals are Simply like, hey, listen, I'm here to help you out. Send me the bills or here's 100 grand, just pay me back. And typically if I can give you 100 grand, if I'm not taking like a HELOC out against my home or, you know, a second mortgage, which I guess would be a heloc, just selling a bunch of stock to help you out. Are those type people gonna pay you back? So I think if it's a friend doing it, it's like, just start when you make it big. Fucking bring me to some tournaments. Never forget where I was, that that's how. If I knew someone in that situation and could financially help him, I think that'd be pretty cool. Especially if you believed in the player. I think a lot of time it's what you talked about, it's what happens in football and basketball. I'll give you a 200 grand right now. But for the first five years, if you make it, I want 20% of every penny you earn. And sometimes people are so desperate that they do that and it's just, it's a shitty deal. Always. Now you. I think the other person would argue, well, it's like they didn't have anything. Where would they be without me? True. But then it's just simply like a business proposition. And you're, you're, you know, I'll give you a little now for a lot to come. I don't know if that's exactly the definition of loan sharking, but I think there has always been elements of that with, with agents pre nil. And I think in golf sometimes it happens. And listen, if you are young and you don't have any money and you're like, how am I going to pay to do all this? And someone gives you that proposition, you almost have to say yes. And it's like you look back 10 years ago, it's like, I can't just pay you back. You know, it's. I do get it. But usually those people are kind of preying on people. The situations. I. John, I was at this farmer's party probably like three or four years ago with my brother. My brother went to Fresno State and his college roommate is now like, works for one of the biggest almond farmers in America. John Party, the country musician is from Northern California and this farmer knows him. So this farmer, big ego guy, rich guy, threw this party in the Central Valley by Fresno for like invited like 2500 people. And Joan Jett and Jon Pardee played. And then there was an after party. And somehow in this room, my brother John Party and me ended up with like a 12 pack and we're just drinking Coors Light. Just bullshit. With John Party. And John Party told this story about this guy that started this company called Kuyou, which is a really kind of big up. And I don't even think it's up and coming anymore, but it's a hunting company. That they were both from the same hometown. And the guy that started kuyou had played football at UC Davis and told John at one point in time like, listen man, you can't stay here. You need to go to Nashville. And John's like, I can't afford to go there. And I don't know exactly the amount of money the guy gave John, but he gave him thousands of dollars. And he's like, the only reason I moved to Nashville was because Jason, who has since passed away but funded his, his career plight out there. And John loved this guy. And I don't think Jason asked for anything back. And I think sometimes that's the ideal situation. The situation Tony's in are the messy ones. I think you see that a lot in golf and sometimes in basketball too, where you get these guys that fucking prey on you and take advantage of you when you don't even know what the hell's going on. And then they sign these contracts that like, I own you for the rest of my career. It's just, that's crazy. So I appreciate anyone that just, you know, if you have the means, just help someone out and then if that person ends up paying you back, awesome. And if he doesn't, as long as he's like, invites you to shit every once in a while and like, recognizes that he wouldn't have been there without you. And that's a pretty powerful thing to do. And props to everyone who's ever done that the right way and not tried to like blood suck off a little investment. And usually when they do that, they do it to a lot of people and they hope one or two hit and then they, then they profit. So long winded way of saying adios.
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Dan Flores
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John Middlekauff
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Unknown
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John Middlekauff
I get right back there and it's bad.
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Unknown
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Dan Flores
Why is a soap opera western like Yellowstone so wildly successful? The American west with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6, where we'll delve into stories of the west and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today.
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John Middlekauff
Listen to the American west with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Last year, a lot of the problems of the drug war. This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports. This kind of star studded a little bit, man. We met them at their homes, we met them at their recording studios. Stories matter and it brings a face to it. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs Podcast, Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an iHeart podcast.