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Jeremy Hobson
We live in a divided country, and our media couldn't be more polarizing. That's why we started the Middle with Jeremy Hobson. It's about bringing voices not from the extremes, but from the vast middle into the national conversation. Each week we hear from ordinary Americans from all over the country. And when you subscribe to the Middle, you also get an episode each week called One Thing Trump did that focuses on just one item from the avalanche of news. Listen to the Middle with Jeremy Hobson on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Gilbert King
Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley Season one.
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Jeremy Scott
Every time I hear about my dad is, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.
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Gilbert King
I was becoming the bridge between Jeremy Scott and the son he'd never known.
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Jeremy Scott
At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.
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Gilbert King
Listen to new episodes of bone Valley Season 2, starting April 9 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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John Middlecoff
The volume. What is going on, everybody? How are we doing? I thought today we'd do a little, a little golo podcast. We got the Masters right around the corner. It'll be here next week. Very, very fired up. So want to do a little look back at the beginning of the season as we transition? If you're listening to this, the Valero is probably already off and running. Not. I didn't really have any thoughts on that. Hard to gauge, you know, the week before with not that many big names. Kind of a weird field. Obviously. I think, I think I saw a stat. 12 of the last 14 guys to win this tournament had not been in the Masters. So obviously if you win this weekend, you get an auto invite next week, which is, I don't know, kind of a big deal. Akshay Batia did it last year. Has to be pretty cool to get the. To win, make a bunch of money and then be like, hey, you're going to Augusta. So we're going to do a little look back, kind of big picture on the season as we. I mean, once the Masters start, we are in the major season. The PGA is right around the corner. Basically every month we get the pga, the US Open, and the British. And then football is back. So obviously also a Ryder cup season. Big year for a lot of guys, not just on our squad, but some of these Euros, some of the dudes on live, you know, this is, this is when Koepka kind of makes his hay in major season. You know, Bryson is going to be on the Ryder Cup. I think no matter what, I guess he, he could just miss every cut in the majors, which I doubt is going to happen. But I think we're going to start seeing a mixture of those guys, which also factors into next week because Patrick Reed, Sergio, Phil actually is playing really well and is a guy that's won the Masters, I don't know, multiple times. So we will dive into that. Liv basically copied the pga, which I do not blame them, and are doing a creator classic. They're calling it the Duels, though I think their version is might be better and I give them credit for doing a couple of things. So I want to dive into that. And then like we do every week, I will take some of your questions. The easiest way to get in on the show is @golopod. Atgolopod is the Instagram for the golf podcast. So just fire in those DMs at Golopod and get your question answered on the show. But before we dive into some golf, you know, I got to tell you about my friends, my partners and the official ticketing app of this podcast. You know, actually a golf tournament, if one is coming near you, that could be the PGA Tour or live is a sneaky, underrated event. Just to kind of get outside, get some sun, have a couple cocktails. You don't even end up watching that much golf, but it gets you moving around. Maybe Friday, take a half day at work, get out of the office, go hang out, have some pops with a buddy. Cannot recommend it enough. So if you have a golf tournament coming near you at, I would highly recommend going just to hang out, obviously. Baseball, basketball, hockey. We got playoffs starting. You have concerts, you got comedy shows. Easiest ticketing app I've ever used by a country mile. Cannot recommend it enough. Take the guesswork out of buying tickets with game time. Download the GameTime app, create an account and use the code John. That's Johan for $20 off, your first purchase terms, apply again, create an account and redeem the code John. For $20 off, download the GameTime app today. Last minute tickets, lowest prices guaranteed. Well, I think a couple weeks ago when it was announced that Tiger had torn his achilles, Phil is 55 years old. The crew of those two guys, specifically Tiger and Phil, drafted off him carrying the sp. Most of you know, my late youth and high school and college is over and now it's in other people's hands. It's very, very important that the best players play well in the biggest Tournaments and specifically the majors. But part of golf, it's a little like baseball. It's every weekend and guys like Rory and Scotty are going to end up probably playing 20 plus times a year. So it really matters that they're in the mix when they play. And we've been very lucky over the last couple of years. Rory has had a chance to win, I think three of the last eight majors. Think about last year. Xander won two, Scotty won another, and Bryson and Rory dueled it out at the US Open. You can't ask for much more. Golf is better when there is not parity. No different than tennis, an individual sport. And you could argue team sports as well. It's better when everyone is chasing the Yankees and the Dodgers or the Patriots have a dynasty. Or you know, in basketball, when Kevin Durant went to the warriors, everyone wants to see if you can beat him. I'm sorry, like, I don't just believe that. I think the numbers show it's definitely with individual sports. When Federer, when Pete Sampras, when yo Joker, when one of those guys is on top. I almost called him Djokovic. That is his name, Djokovic. I was going to get Nicole Jokic, who had a 60 point triple double last night in a loss, which I have to imagine is the first time in NBA history that's ever happened. But we need Rory and we need Scotty to play well. And I think when you look back over the beginning of the year, this is why I think it's crazy when I hear people saying that Rory is like he just can't get it done in the biggest tournaments. Well, he hasn't lately and I understand he hasn't won a major in 10 years. But if you've watched the sport, you know, for a longer period of time, multiple years, you would be insane to think this guy's never going to win a big tournament, AKA one of the majors. Honestly, I think it's way more likely that he wins multiple majors, winning moving forward than he never wins another one. Now, does that mean he's going to win the Masters in a week? I don't know. We have had a lot of hype on him coming into this tournament and he's underwhelmed and it's happened to him in other majors as well. But I would say over the course of the last couple years, he couldn't have been much closer. I mean, he should have won the Open the year Cam Smith won it. Obviously last year he blew it down the stretch, missing two putts in the last three holes. And he easily could have won at LACC, the U.S. open. What was that, two years ago. And he couldn't make a putt to save his life. But I don't know if he's ever going to win the Masters. If I was a betting man, which I am, I would say yes. Do I plan on putting money on him next week? I do. I think when you watch him play this year, it'd be one thing. It's like, Rory has two wins this year. It's like, what tournaments did he win? It's like the Century. Now, I understand he never goes to Hawaii and the amex, and he ain't playing that either. But I'm just. For hypothetical sake, let's just say those were his two tournament wins. I would not feel the same as winning at pebble beach in inclement weather and winning at the players when half the field had no shot and looked terrible. So, like, I think his form. And then you watch him last week, it's like, first round, it's like, does he even want to be here? Was he. Did he just go to get a couple reps and he's going to kind of like, do a sneaky miss the cut, and then just fly home? It's like, no. He then shot four under, five under, six under the last three days. Now, the one thing that scares you a little bit, and this is what golf has battled for a long time, is we're balls deep now in gambling, so I would like some sort of universal injury report, but that doesn't happen. So you're like, yeah, there's word out on the street that something's up with this guy's knee. You're like, well, then I probably wouldn't have bet money on him over the last month. But you don't know until it's too late. Rory just told us. He's like, yeah, something's up with my elbow. Now, the way he said it is almost like he had a little smile. It's like, is he just messing with everybody? Is he actually good? Is he trying to throw people off the scent? Is he trying to lower the hype going into Augusta? Because for a split second on Sunday, you're like, could Rory win this tournament? Now, he was too far back, and he ended up honestly, wasn't too far. Turned out it wasn't even that close. But he did. He did mention, yeah, something's a little up with my elbow. But then he said his coach was flying out and they were going to dial in the previous week, he had already been to Augusta. I'd be stunned if he's not a major factor now, is he going to win? We talked about this over the last couple weeks. If you bet money on him last year, and you were watching that group when he was playing with Scottie Scheffler and the wind started to pick up and he had no shot, you're like, scottie Scheffler is in a different world. I think as we sit here today, they are. I mean, Rory's obviously been better this year, benefited from not having raviolis and shards of glass in his hands, but I just have a hard time thinking Rory has ever been better at golf than he is right now. And the positive momentum he has, obviously going into the Masters and just the major season in general now, for the first time, and we talked about this last week, was, you know, listen, you have an injury, it throws you off like it's golf. It's kind of like it's baseball. It's a. It's a thinking man sport. And if you get too far away from it, it's a specific skill. If you go two months without hitting a baseball, you don't just hop right back in the batter's box and handle, you know, 100 miles an hour and a big league curve. It takes you some time to get your timing back. Golf is no different. So when you look at Scotty, and I would throw Xander in this as well, when they have injuries and they are not able to play golf, it is a problem. And Xander, that's why he's in this weird category, has a career year, last year, wins multiple majors, Then he gets his rib injury, and it's like, I don't know. It's going to take him some time. Wouldn't shock me if he's fully healthy, that he. He gets back to form here in a couple tournaments and by, like, the US Open and the British, he's a major factor. But Scotty, it was like, I don't know, man. He's not playing terribly, but he doesn't look quite as dominant as he was last year, but kind of understandable. Still a shards of glass in his hand that they were, like, going to slowly take out. And then Sunday happened, and you're like, that's the Scottish Scheffler that I know. That's the guy that beat the shit out of everyone last year and won $65 million playing golf. That's the guy. Now, he ultimately didn't win the tournament because Min Wu Lee got up and down on 18 from the back of the green. But like, that version of that player can beat anyone in the world any given week and probably will if he's going to play like that. And that was like, I was off the Scottie Scheffler scent. I'm like three and a half to one. I understand he dominates at Augusta, but he's not playing that well. And then that happens. And especially on the back nine, he's just birdie, birdie, birdie, and he's just peppering flags. You're like, holy shit, Scotty is coming. You know, it's like that. It's like that jiff when Omar and the wire turns the corner. And I think if you are someone, like, who's going to gamble on this tournament, I don't think it's crazy to have a little Scottie Scheffler exposure. Now. He's got to have a unique career, right? He feels like a guy that's won multiple majors when he's just one. He has won multiple majors, but, like, at a bunch of different venues. Like, this is the only course in which he's won. He has not won the US Open, he has not won the British Open, and he obviously has not won the PGA Championship. Now, granted, last year he was the favorite going in, and he got arrested, kind of threw him off. But certain people are very comfortable certain places. And this is the only major of the year where the course never changes. It's why Phil has been a factor there for a long time. It's why everyone gets bullish. You know, when Tiger is semi healthy that he can win there. You know, Bubba Watson, his guys can go back. Patrick Reed plays well there every single year. Go to his wiki right now. See the last, like, five years, how well Patrick Reed, who has not been that good at golf over the last couple years, plays at Augusta. It's no different than some of us, right? You'll meet a guy, I'm one that when I'm playing well, it's like, oh, this is. Meet my buddy, John Middlekopf. He's a three handicap. Well, yeah, at my home course, when I'm playing a lot and I'm playing well, it's like, yeah, I can shoot, you know, high 70s every round. When I'm playing well, not right now, struggling to break 85, but you take me somewhere else, all of a sudden it's like, well, how this guy just shoot 86? Because that's most. You know, I would say country club golfers. I'm not technically a country club guy. But the point remains. And when you take them away from their home base, anything is possible. That's what separates really good golfers. I have countless friends, especially college guys that played in college, their handicap, it's like they can shoot par anywhere. You can take them to Oakmont, you can take them to pebble beach, you can take them to the local Muni. Their games translate. Most of ours do not. It's no different with some of the guys, like from 50 to 150 on the PGA Tour. You get them at tournaments like the one they just played in Houston or some of these tournaments like in Mexico or. You know, I'm trying to think, early on in the season, certain guys are just comfortable. Certain places, Toasty's really comfortable last week and they feel, you know, just, it just works for their game, especially guys that aren't that accurate off the tee. Some of these courses, like, have big ass fairways. And then you get to the majors, it's like, holy shit, this is a different ball game. And when you don't, when you miss the fairway and you're in rough or your irons are a little off and you're missing greens, all of a sudden, golf becomes really complicated and very, very difficult at the highest level. And Scotty is a guy, when he's on, he's. I mean, again, having Tiger. Having a Tiger season is a lot different than having a Tiger career has a long way to go. But there is no arguing that's one of the great seasons we've ever seen. And the crazy part is, is it's like it almost felt underwhelming because how did he not win more majors? But, but this is a big year. And you know, in a big picture thing, like the one thing now with Scotty, it's like, we know we can win the Masters, and more than likely, if he stays healthy over the next four or five years, he's going to win it again. But like, I think it's pretty important to rattle off one of the other majors. But after you watch him on Sunday, you're like, this guy's going to be a factor. The finals for March Mania are here. And the only thing for sure is it's the last time you can bet on college basketball this season. Get in on all the action expected and unexpected with DraftKings sportsbook. 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Jeremy Hobson
We live in a divided country.
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Gilbert King
I am a lifelong Republican with all.
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Jeremy Hobson
Kinds of different people.
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John Middlecoff
You know, I'm a mother, I'm a grandmother.
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Jeremy Hobson
That's why we started the Middle with Jeremy Hobson. It's about bringing voices not from the extremes, but from the vast middle into the national conversation.
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John Middlecoff
Anna, I'm calling from Las Vegas.
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Jeremy Hobson
Each week we bring together an all star panel. Mark Cuban, so great to have you on the Middle.
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Gilbert King
Thanks for having me.
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John Middlecoff
Jeremy.
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Jeremy Hobson
Neil Degrasse Tyson, welcome to the Middle.
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Jeremy Scott
Thanks for having me.
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Jeremy Hobson
And hear from ordinary Americans from all over the country on the most important, important issues.
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Gilbert King
Hi, my name is Venkat. I'm calling you from Atlanta, Georgia.
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Jeremy Hobson
And when you subscribe to the Middle, you also get an episode each week called One Thing Trump did that focuses on just one item from the avalanche of news.
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Jeremy Scott
We should be examining what our government spends its money on and are these jobs necessary?
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John Middlecoff
And what are we doing here?
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Jeremy Scott
But that doesn't seem to be what we're doing in this situation.
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Jeremy Hobson
Listen to the Middle with Jeremy Hobson on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Gilbert King
Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley Season one.
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John Middlecoff
I just knew him as a kid.
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Gilbert King
Long, silent voices from his past came.
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Jeremy Scott
Forward, and he was just staring at me.
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Gilbert King
And they had secrets of their own to share.
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Jeremy Scott
Gilbert King, I'm the son of Jeremy Lynn Scott.
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Gilbert King
I was no longer just telling the story. I was part of it.
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Jeremy Scott
Every time I hear about my dad is, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.
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Gilbert King
I was becoming the bridge between a killer and the son he'd never known.
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Jeremy Scott
If the cops and everything would have done their job properly. My dad would have been in jail. I would have never existed.
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Gilbert King
I never expected to find myself in this place. Now I need to tell you how I got here.
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Jeremy Scott
At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.
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Gilbert King
Bone Valley Season 2 Jeremy Jeremy, I.
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Jeremy Scott
Want to tell you something.
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Gilbert King
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John Middlecoff
I think a couple other big picture thoughts this season is like couple of the international guys now. Hovland has been in the wilderness for like a year. You win a tournament like, like it's still there. And at any moment, if this guy figures it out, watch the you know what out. So to me, Victor Hovland is a guy who has had a lot of success in majors, who just won a tournament, who's just trying to still figure things out. Like he's got it in him. And I don't know if that's going to come this year in the majors. Maybe it doesn't. Would it shock me if he shoots 80 at the Masters? It would not. Would it also shock me if you look up round one? It's like Victor Hovland just shot five under. It would not either if he is close, which is hard to think that he's not because of the way that he just won, despite what he's saying. Like he just beat Justin Thomas, you know, who is having a fantastic year. I don't know if it's going to be the Masters, but I would keep a close eye on him, especially. I mean, this was a guy two years ago whose odds going into big tournaments would hover from like 17, 18, 19 to 1. And if you start seeing a guy like him at 30, 40, 50 to 1, especially if he has a couple bad tournaments, I would just not be afraid to sprinkle. You know, Max Homa is a guy who last year was leading the Masters, was leading the Masters, who has never played well in majors, and your boy might alive bet him. And then the moment that shot on 12 went into the bush, I looked and I had put a decent amount of money on him. The cash out was basically for like 95% of my bet. And I hit it immediately. It's almost like I beat DraftKings to the punch and I got my money back. And then he double bogeyed that hole and it was over. But, you know, you look at Max this year, he's kind of in shambles. I didn't realize how bad it was going. He's played in seven events, he's missed four of those cuts, and he has zero top 25s. I mean, this was a guy, I would say, 12 months ago who was viewed as one of the better Americans lock Ryder Cup. It felt like type guy for several years moving forward, and someone who had kind of figured it out. And it was just going to be a major problem in the majors after the Masters. And not only did that not happen, he's kind of falling apart. And he's got new clubs, he's got new apparel. I'm a fan of his game, but I don't know, I might have just because I'm a sucker for value. He was 120 to 1 this week at the Valero. 120 to 1. I might have thrown $25 to pay like 3, $300. I'm like, you know, he. Maybe this guy finishes DFL. Maybe Max shoots 78, 75 and doesn't sniff the cut. Or maybe, like, he just, I don't know, is a guy that's won several times on the PGA Tour, just like, figures it out. Once you get to a certain odds and you're a player like that has shown his caliber, it's hard not to just throw like 20 bucks on a guy. It's like, wait, I can just throw 20 bucks on a guy who has won countless times. Again, maybe he sucks. We decided a couple of weeks ago with Hovland. Hovland was proclaiming to everybody, like, I am terrible at golf right now. He was shooting 80, shooting 80. And then all of a sudden, it's like, he wins now, Victor Hovland, when they're both going, right, Victor Hovland's a better player than Max Homa. But still, like, you look at this field, it's not great. I would say one big picture thing for the Ryder cup and just for the majors in general, is Justin Thomas is kind of back. He's not all the way back because he just didn't win a couple weeks ago. And this is a guy that, you know, I think when his career's over, he'll easily have more than 20 plus wins on the PGA Tour. And it wouldn't shock me if he finishes with like three or four majors. He's got two right now, two PGA Championships. But he's a guy that, for some reason, you know, I used to Bet on him in the Masters and he would never play well there. In theory, it should be a good spot for him. You know, a guy that can work the ball both ways. Fantastic short game putting has kind of been his downfall. It's clearly not an easy place to putt. And then when Bones went to his bag, you're like, well, Bones has been there for Phil. Countless wins, this guy's going to know. And it just didn't really go well. But I do think jt, if not the Masters, is just a guy to watch and check the odds out for the majors. Because if you can get JT at like a US Open, at a PGA Championship, even a British Open, if his odds are closer to like 35, 40 to 1 than they were when he was playing at an elite level, like 16 to 1, there's just value there, especially with top tens and top 20. If you can get plus odds on JT ever to top 20 in big tournaments, that to me, is an auto hammer. Anything else? I do think the hard part about this, and we'll dive into live here in a second, is knowing where these live guys stand, right? I mean, I was listening to a podcast today. Phil's been playing really well, and he's 55 years old coming into the Masters. We'll see how he does this week. Down in Florida at Trump, they're playing Doral, but, like, I don't think it's crazy to sprinkle a little money on Phil, but. But the big guys, like Jon Rahm is a guy that feels completely out of sight, out of mind. Like, the difference of Jon Rahm and Bryson feels. Feels dramatic. Like Bryson feels very much in my life. Now, obviously part of that's YouTube. And as someone that watches a lot, if not all of Bryson's YouTube videos, I'll say this. You can't take much away when Bryson's doing the break 50 and they're playing the Reds. Like, I don't really judge his game in that moment though. It usually looks pretty cool because he's hitting like, you know, five irons from 250 yard par fours. When you just watch Bryson go to a random course and try to break the course record, you go, holy shit, this guy's good. And the one thing they say about the Masters is, like, it benefits left handed players or right handed guys with draws. And when you watch Bryson now, if you just. Obviously last couple years, he's played a pretty distinct draw, not just off the tee, but with his irons. When you watch him on these YouTube videos when he's just playing a random course in like Texas, trying to break the course record, you're like, every ball he hits is a draw. And you know, I know a couple years he took a lot of shit because he had said that it was a par 67. And I think he went out and shot like 74. But. And listen, I didn't blame anyone like Bryson. The Master is going to be a weird spot for him. Last year it was not. And he finished tied for sixth. And he was right in the mix over the weekend to win it until he kind of melted down on hole 13 when he chunked that chip and it just kind of fell apart. But I do think if you look back at last year, you go, I don't want to say he's figured it out, but. But he clearly is much more comfortable there and his shot shape really works. So I'm not saying he's going to win the Masters this year, but I think you're a little crazy to not have a little exposure and to think that Bryson can't be a serious. I expect Bryson to be a serious factor in all these tournaments now, the Masters, less than the other three, especially the PGA in the US Open. He is going to be the guy people root for. He's essentially like Bob does Sports Grant, if those guys were good enough to play in majors, everyone would be rooting for them. That is Bryson. He's like a content creator. He has a lot of fans. People just like and enjoy watching him play golf on YouTube. I'm telling you, he is going to have such a home field advantage when he plays in these. In these. The PGA Championship in the US Open, the Masters is a little tempered just because of the way the patrons and the fans. It's just not as crazy of an environment. But I think a lot of people are behind him and I think that really matters for a guy like him, like Koepka. You could be booing Koepka and it wouldn't faze him if he's playing well. Is he playing well? I don't know, but I'm excited to watch that, you know, live. They copied. I watched a couple weeks ago at the Players the Creator Classic that Horvat ended up winning. And listen, I thought it is a good idea. Clearly were a lot of people there. I think approaching it like a normal golf tournament is pretty dumb. You should kind of lean into the craziness. I thought, why didn't you have like Bob does sports commentating? Like, that's what I would have Said, hey, hey, Bob, you take the microphone here and just be crazy. But the Tour, still a little stiff, still a little conservative, is clearly uncomfortable doing that. You know, who is not uncomfortable doing that at all is live. And the difference of their Creator Classic and the PGA Tours Creator Classic is the PGA Tours Creator Classic was just a bunch of dudes playing, which is not a bad.
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Jeremy Scott
I don't.
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John Middlecoff
I'm not saying it's a bad idea. I was entertained. But these, like, part of being at the players or being at Liv is like, you do have the best players in the world right around there and lives like, hey, Dustin Johnson, Cam Smith, Phil Mickelson, all, all you got. You guys are playing. It's a little weird that Bryson's not playing. Maybe because he would want it on his YouTube channel and they're putting it. Here's the thing. The Creator Classic was on Golf Channel. I just go fully on YouTube where there aren't really any rules. You know, on Golf Channel, you're still following some of the FCC rules. It's got an old school feel to it. You know, with a broadcast, you going on Grant Horvat's channel, which, you know, listen, Grant is a rock star right now in the YouTube space. So he doesn't swear. It's not like, you know, if Bob does sports is like the barstool of, of YouTube Golf. I know Foreplay has a YouTube as well, but, you know, Bob, I would say bot. When I think YouTube creators when it comes to golf, I would say Bob and Joey and Fat Perez and Grant are the biggest. Now, you could argue good. Good is huge. You could argue, you know, the Brian Bros. Are big. I watch them. I watch good. I mean, I watch it all. I enjoy YouTube Golf. But I think part of what makes it pretty special, it's kind of raw, you know, and that's kind of what the consumer likes. It's pretty authentic. There aren't really rules behind it. Kind of do whatever you want, though. I would say, you know, Grant kind of hangs his hat like he's not swearing. Like it's, It's. I would say it's much more made for kids. And it's probably no wonder why Grant has a lot of younger fans because their parents feel very comfortable watching it. Like, if I had an 8 year old, would I let him watch Bob? I'd probably be hypocritical because I drop a lot of F bombs as well. But, you know, it's just kind of a different vibe. But bringing Bob to commentate it with all the stars playing. It's gonna get some viral moments, and it's gonna be a really big deal on Grant's channel. Now, there was a report that, that the PGA Tour was not happy with this and reached out to, you know, not just the creators, but, like, you know, Wesley Bryan, I think, made like 900k last year on the PGA Tour and was not happy with him playing in this event. Now, that report came from, like, a live account essentially. So I don't know what to believe or not to believe. I would say this at this point in time. Just, you guys got to figure it out. Like, there's no more banning people. There's no more getting mad at other people for doing things like, this is the wild, wild west. And it's on you to get everyone back on board and figure it out. Like the days of a couple years ago, suspending people for life and kicking them off the Tour, that was proven to be an awful, awful misstep. And if it is true that you are going after and pressuring, you know, the Brian Bros. Or the Horvats or the Bob Does Sports, like, if you do this, you're going to be no longer allowed in any of our sanctioned events in Creator Classics. That would be the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. That would be what you would call awful, awful business. So I hope that they did not do that, because that would be beyond stupid. But overall, I'm pretty excited to watch this live Creator classic here in a couple days.
- [32:25]
Jeremy Hobson
We live in a divided country.
- [32:27]
Gilbert King
I am a lifelong Republican with all.
- [32:30]
Jeremy Hobson
Kinds of different people.
- [32:31]
John Middlecoff
You know, I'm a mother, I'm a grandmother.
- [32:34]
Jeremy Hobson
That's why we started the Middle with Jeremy Hobson. It's about bringing voices not from the extremes, but from the vast middle into the national conversation.
- [32:42]
Jeremy Scott
Anna, I'm calling from Las Vegas.
- [32:44]
Jeremy Hobson
Each week we bring together an all star panel. Mark Cuban, So great to have you on the Middle.
- [32:49]
Gilbert King
Thanks for having me.
- [32:50]
Jeremy Hobson
Jeremy, Neil Degrasse Tyson, welcome to the Middle.
- [32:52]
Jeremy Scott
Thanks for having me.
- [32:53]
Jeremy Hobson
And hear from ordinary Americans from all over the country on the most important issues.
- [32:57]
Gilbert King
Hi, my name is Venkat. I'm calling you from Atlanta, Georgia.
- [33:01]
Jeremy Hobson
And when you subscribe to the Middle, you also get an episode each week called One Thing Trump did that focuses on just one item from the avalanche of news.
- [33:10]
Jeremy Scott
We should be examining what our government spends its money on and are these.
- [33:13]
John Middlecoff
Jobs necessary and what are we doing here?
- [33:15]
Jeremy Scott
But that doesn't seem to be what we're doing in this situation.
- [33:18]
Jeremy Hobson
Listen to the Middle with Jeremy Hobson on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [33:25]
Gilbert King
Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in in Bone Valley season one. I just knew him as a kid. Long, silent voices from his past came.
- [33:38]
Jeremy Scott
Forward and he was just staring at me.
- [33:40]
Gilbert King
And they had secrets of their own to share.
- [33:44]
Jeremy Scott
Gilbert King I'm the son of Jeremy Lynn Scott.
- [33:50]
Gilbert King
I was no longer just telling the story. I was part of it.
- [33:54]
Jeremy Scott
Every time I hear about my dad, it's, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.
- [33:58]
Gilbert King
I was becoming the bridge between a killer and the son he'd never known.
- [34:03]
Jeremy Scott
If the cops and everything would have done the job properly, my dad would have been in jail. I would have never existed.
- [34:08]
Gilbert King
I never expected to find myself in this place. Now I need to tell you how I got here.
- [34:15]
Jeremy Scott
At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.
- [34:18]
Gilbert King
Bone Valley Season 2 Jeremy.
- [34:22]
Jeremy Scott
Jeremy, I want to tell you something.
- [34:24]
Gilbert King
Listen to new episodes of bone Valley Season 2 starting April 9 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear the entire new season ad free with exclusive content starting April 9th, subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcast.
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John Middlecoff
I did want to do this because I got some questions at johnmittlecoff or excuse me, that's my other Instagram handle that we do for three and out fire any question you have in there. This is just easiest way to get the golf questions. Sometimes I see golf questions in my normal Instagram that's just gonna get lost in the shuffle. So if you want to get your questions answered on the Go Low podcast, you have to Instagram or DM me on @goloPod. That's the Instagram. So @goloPod, fire in those DMS. I've been thinking about some bets to make for the Masters. Looking at Minwu Lee off his win, I'm looking to go pretty extreme one way or the other. I think the best bet is probably to take him to top 20, but I'm thinking about taking him to top 10 or taking him to miss the cut completely. Figured maybe he's on his high horse and Augusta gets him. Or with him playing good and having good finishes at Augusta in prior years, he can take the next step. Does either side of that coin speak more than the other? You know what's fascinating about that guy? He swings out of his, you know what off the tee. Like, I don't think you can swing Any harder. There can't be many humans that are playing pro golf non long drive. People that have a faster club head speed and faster ball speed than Minwooly. I mean, there were times where it felt like he was 15, 20 miles an hour higher than Scottie Scheffler. Now the problem with that is sometimes he hits it off the planet as he did, I think what was a whole 16 last week and which made it a tournament because the moment he pumps it in the water, Scotty's putting for eagle. You're like, oh my God, Scotty going to win this? Are they going to get to extra holes? Now here's what Min Lu, Lou Min Wu Lee does well and he's. I find him pretty entertaining. The moment at the end of the tournament when he pretended to do aim point on like a 6 inch putt was funny. Like that. That was, that, that was good. His short game is pretty elite. So it's like if you look at sawgrass, when he falls apart, it's because he gets all over the place off the tee and he's in other fairways. But in sawgrass, like you can't just pump it into another fairway. This is not some resort style course. Like you're in the trees and you're fucked. You're going to get bogeys. I do think Augusta is a little like that. Like you can't just pump it all over the place. You do have to be accurate. Now his short game and his ability to putt, like that's going to translate at, at the Masters. But to me, he's better off. If you tell me he's like leading after two rounds, I'd be like, he could implode. But if he just kind of flies under the radar and there's less pressure on him, I would like him more. So I don't think a top 20 bet is crazy. To me, top 10 feels a little extreme. I would probably do both. I would do a top 20 bet and I would do a miss the cut bet. Mailbag question. If you were to enter into a four man scramble and could assemble the best possible team of current golfers, who would your team be? You were on the team. So essentially you only pick three other dudes. Mine would be Rory, Scotty and J.T. rory for the driving, Scotty for the approaches and J.T. just a big shot maker. Yeah, I think you could go if you just picked random PGA Tour guys. Like, are there other PGA Tour guys playing in the scramble? Because if they're not, I could Just take random dudes that play in PGA Tour events and we would dominate. Now if this was for like a million dollars and you're playing other elite players and you could have the pick of the litter, then it would matter. I think you would go with Rory or Bryson again, I watch the YouTube Golf. Bryson in these environments. Him off the tee is just like automatic draw. I don't think it would be crazy to take Bryson. What if you just went all live? You just went, Bryson, you need an iron player. So you'd go like Terrell Hatton or Joaquin Neiman. And for putting, you chose Cam Smith or Patrick Reed for short game. I don't think you. I think you were underestimating. If you just took any three guys in like the top. Obviously some guys have different strengths, but just, you know, Jake Knapp off the tee bombs it. If you take like JJ Spawn, good iron player, you know, you just went around Russell Henley, good putter, you would win every scramble you ever entered at any course. I might pick like entertaining guys. That's why I would pick like, I might go some live guys like Bryson, Phil and Terrell Haddon. You know, the problem with Rory, Scotty JT would be probably fun. It might be kind of boring. I know you're high on Rory. I think he will undeniably win a major this year. Even with how well he is playing, it's hard for me to think he can win Augusta. The last six majors have all been faders of the ball. Every time Rory deviates From his stock 330 yard draw, he seems to get double crossed. Augusta doesn't set up well for him. Going out of position, missing fairways. It's a course of immense precision and missing in the correct spots. Something I think he's unable to do at a fade bias Augusta National. Given his draw, biased driver. Do you think his play right now can supersede all this? Can he complete the career Grand Slam this season? Also, who are your sleeper picks to top 10 this year? Although it's hard to tell which live golfers are playing well and which one are not. Neiman seems to be an outlier. I would say I kind of like Phil coming into Augusta. I think taking phil to top 10 and 20 is not crazy. Sometimes older guys at this course, he's really comfortable here. He's played well this week. I think he finished like third or fifth last week. Again, it's hard to. Or a couple of weeks ago at live, it's hard to. No, but you just know if Phil's showing Some signs of life. This is a good place, I think. Phil, Patrick Reed, Sergio. Sergio is playing well. Patrick Reed just plays well. I think you're much more likely to bet on those guys who are comfortable at this tournament than like, Joaquin Neiman. As Joaquin Neiman ever had any success. I know everyone's kind of blowing him this year, but I don't even think he's ever been good at a major. I mean, Joaquin Neiman the last, the last five years. Here's what he's done at the Masters. T40, T35, T16, T22. He's actually been pretty good the last couple years. Don't. Okay, don't hate Joaquin Neiman. He has not really had much major success. A lot of cuts, a lot of T30s, T30, T47, T53, T58. Now homo was like that last year and then he played well at the master. So, you know, you never know. I like guys that have had previous success here. I do think between Sergio, Phil and Patrick Reed, One of those three guys is going to finish in the top 10. I don't know which one. Kind of like Phil. Question for the pod. We'll end on this. This is from Zach. If you had won the Masters, what would your champion dinner be? Side note, if you find yourself in Jersey, arguably some of the best golf in the country, I'm a GM at a public golf course in North New Jersey, but can get you pretty much anywhere on in the state. I appreciate that. You know, it's weird. I love food and I probably eat too much of it. I'm trying to work on, you know, lowering the caloric intake. I would not call myself, like, I would say like a, like a foodie. I. I'll try anything. So I'm not like an anti foodie, but I'm definitely not like an elitist when it comes to food. I like a nice steakhouse as much as the next guy. I can also eat Chick Fil A or some hole in the wall Mexican joint like five days a week. If Maria wasn't in my life, I would eat chipotle bowls. I don't know, four times a week for dinner. So Scotty takes some shit for his menu because he goes with sliders and barbecue beans and, you know, just more of a barbecue feel. Like a cookie on warm ice cream or, I mean, a warm cookie on vanilla ice cream. I actually think the Masters dinner is less about, you know, being like some French laundry experience. For those of you that don't know what that is, that's the Gavin Newson restaurant. But the reason it was such a big moment, not because he broke the rules, but because that is like the most famous restaurant in the Napa area. And it's like, you know, thousand dollars a person. Supposed to just be elite food, but it is kind of foofy. Like, when you see pictures, you know, it's just those things that's very expensive. You get tiny little plates, which probably taste incredible. But I think the Masters is more like steak and potatoes and more telling stories and being with the guys. Obviously there are a lot of people in that room. This is not like the 70s or the 80s where guys are probably getting blasted because a large percentage of the guys take it really seriously. And clearly if you had just won it the previous year, like Scotty, like, trying to win it again, couple of the old guys potentially don't care and just there to have some cocktails. But I do think it's less about the food experience, and I could be wrong in more about the. The vibes and the bonding of the people and just telling stories about, I don't know, golf, the tournament life. So I don't think I would overthink it. I would keep it pretty. I wouldn't veer far off to me, some sort of salad. I think I've heard Scotty say you have to include some sort of fish or kind of. If you're going to go red meat, you got to include either chicken, fish, something a little lighter for guys. I might just go give you a nice steak option. Chicken or fish option maybe, you know, with some pasta, a salad, just some. I think it's hard to go wrong. I'm a sucker for, like, crab cakes and calamari, something like that with the appetizer, ice cream sundae or something like that at the end. I don't know. Tiger's a big milkshake guy. Like, some people online make fun of you, but I think some of these people, they try to think that they would go above and beyond. I don't know if that'd be a huge hit. Like, does anyone complain when they go to, I don't know, Fleming's or wherever your steakhouse is? What do you usually get there? Steak, some Mac and cheese or potato, asparagus, salad. I mean, you get the same thing most of the time every time you go. For most of us, the most expensive dinner that we attend is a steakhouse, right? And every time I go to a steakhouse, give or take, I get the same thing, and I usually enjoy it. Yet whenever the Masters menu comes out, which the guy that wins it has to pay for. It's like, God, he's just such a boring. Obviously, if you're just going like chicken tacos or something, that would be stupid. But I think I would just go some greens, a potato ish, something like Mac and cheese, calamari, crab cakes, because I like those. A steak, a chicken or a fish, and an ice cream sundae. And I think most people would be pretty happy. So that that would be my decision over something like trying to act like I'm, you know, Emeril Lagasse here. The Volume.
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Jeremy Hobson
We live in a divided country, and our media couldn't be more polarizing. That's why we started the Middle with Jeremy Hobson. It's about bringing voices, not from the extremes but from the vast middle into the national conversation. Each week we hear from ordinary Americans from all over the country. And when you subscribe to the Middle, you also get an episode each week called One Thing Trump did that focuses on just one item from the avalanche of news. Listen to the Middle with Jeremy Hobson on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [47:25]
Gilbert King
Something unexpected happened after Jeremy Scott confessed to killing Michelle Schofield in Bone Valley Season one.
- [47:32]
Jeremy Scott
Every time I hear about my dad is, oh, he's a killer. He's just straight evil.
- [47:37]
Gilbert King
I was becoming the bridge between Jeremy Scott and the son he'd never known.
- [47:41]
Jeremy Scott
At the end of the day, I'm literally a son of a killer.
- [47:44]
Gilbert King
Listen to new episodes of bone Valley Season 2, starting April 9 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.