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All right, welcome to Hoops Tonight, here At the volume. Happy Friday, everybody. Hope all of you guys are having an incredible week. Have a jam packed show for you guys Today we're going to be diving into some more trade deadline stories. So obviously some of the dust has settled from the Giannis pseudo trade request that went down on Wednesday. The trade request that wasn't a trade request. But I want to dig into some additional angles, especially with teams like Minnesota and New York. And I also want to dig back into the Golden State angle and why I understand some of the hesitation from Giannis. Specifically want to talk about the rumored pivot for Golden State surrounding Andrew Wiggins and Anthony Davis. And then at the tail end of the show, I want to talk a little bit about some of the rumors surrounding DeAndre Hunter and what he could do if he were moved to the Los Angeles Lakers and some of my concerns about that potential deal. You guys know the drill before we get started. Subscribe to the Hoops Tonight YouTube channel so you don't miss any more of our videos. Make sure you like this video. That helps us a lot over on YouTube. And then last but not least, if you want to get mailbag questions into our mailbag, we already did a weekly mailbag this week, but we'll be doing getting back to them on Friday starting next week. If you want to get questions in for that, just drop them in the YouTube comments. All right, Mailbag with a colon. Write your question that helps me sort them out in the comments and we'll get to them in our mailbags throughout the remainder of the season. All right, let's talk some basketball. So with the Giannis trade saga, bear with me. I'm feeling a little under the weather, so I'm having a little trouble talking today. But there's three additional angles that I want to get into. First is the idea of Minnesota and New York and the idea of them potentially achieving the draft compensation they need via moving important role players. So these two teams popped up in the shams reporting that came from ESPN the other night. So we can acknowledge, first of all, like, why teams like Golden State and Miami are more immediately appealing in this sort of discussion because they just have draft picks that they can throw onto the table. Right. And, and Miami in particular also has the means with which to potentially achieve more draft compensation through some of their higher level role players. Right. So that's why they're in the position that they're in Minnesota and New York. Neither of them have anywhere near enough draft compensation to get into this discussion. Right. So after doing more digging it appears that they are looking at multi trade scenarios or multi team constructs within a single trade that involve using guys like Jaden McDaniels or maybe a Mikhail Bridges or an OG Anunoby to bring in the necessary draft compensation to facilitate a deal for Giannis. This is where this type of trade can get super complicated and very risky. Now I will say between those two teams, I think it makes more sense for New York than it does for Minnesota and we'll get into why in just a minute. But with both constructs you'd basically have to bring back at least three first round picks and that would be tough to do for either team. It's difficult to imagine a scenario where the draft compensation you get for a McHale or for a Jaden McDaniels is also enough to get you Giannis and 10A right. There's a little bit of a disconnect there. Like would you have to move multiple high level role players? Like would Minnesota have to flip Dante DiVincenzo to get additional draft compensation or would New York have to do something similar with like a Mitchell Robinson or something to get enough draft compensation? It just gets complicated. So I think based on that fact alone, it's somewhat unlikely still for both of these teams. But as a thought exercise kind of similar, remember when we talked about the J dub for Trey Murphy thing this earlier this week, I meant that more as a thought exercise surrounding archetypes of players like would a guy like Trey Murphy fit Shea better necessarily than a J Dub. It was just a thought exercise. Similarly, if we can just pretend that New York and Minnesota can get the amount of first round draft compensation that they need to get Giannis, does it make sense as a thought exercise for these teams to break up the construct of their team to chase Giannis? So let's start with Minnesota and that's the team in particular that I hate this idea for. So let's again pretend that you're able to get this deal done just by moving Jaden McDaniels for picks, then rerouting salary and those picks to Milwaukee for Giannis, which again I think is pretty unlikely. You might have to trade a Dante DiVincenzo or a NAS Reed as well to get additional draft compensation to actually win that type of bidding war. But let's say it's just Jaden McDaniels, he's a 25 year old who's played in 70 plus games four years in a row, played in 82 games last year, has only missed two games this season and is having an absurd career year. He's shooting 44% from three. He's had 1120 point games this year. He's one of the best perimeter defenders in the league, just all around one of the best role players in the entire NBA. After you get a like once you move on from Jaden and Ant, the rest of the roster is a little bit on the older side. Rudy Gobert's 33, Julius Randall is 31, Dante even Chenzo's even in his late 20s. Now you move Jaden, you bring back a 31 year old Giannis who's been having injury issues right now. To be clear, Ant and Giannis is a monster duo. I definitely think they'd be at least a little better in the short term. I'm a big believer in do not overthink things when it comes to talent upgrades like this is not trading important role players for an older Russell Westbrook. Like that wasn't a bad deal just because they sent out good role players. It was a bad deal cause they sent out good role players in a first round draft pick for a player that was a star that was incapable of producing like a star. Like that was the problem with the Russell Westbrook trade, right? Giannis is still a bonafide top tier superstar and his game compliments Antwell. They'd be great together. But in that event, even though you would be better in the short term, your chances of sustainability greatly diminished. We've talked about this concept a lot this week. When you've got a young superstar superstar in his mid-20s, early 20s, you're looking for sustainable success so that you don't have a guy get into his late 20s and start asking for trades or seeking a pathway through free agency to find greener pastures. You want to have sustainable success. Jaden McDaniels is the closest thing on that Minnesota roster to a guy that you feel certain can be in the trenches with Ant winning high level playoff games for at least the next half decade. Everyone else on that list, Giannis included, is a question mark. I don't necessarily see Rudy Gobert being the foundational piece for a championship contender at 38 or Julius Randall at 36 or even Dante DiVincenzo at 33. But I feel pretty good about Jaden McDaniels being a dude who can be a running mate with Ant for at least the next five years. Trading for Giannis now could very well be the thing that has you trading Anthony Edwards in a few years because Gobert goes down a level and Giannis goes down a level or has some injury issues and suddenly you got Ant alongside a bunch of really old NBA players that are underachieving in a Western Conference with OKC in San Antonio that are having sustainable success. And now all of a sudden you're shipping Anthony Edwards off and you're stuck in purgatory. If you're Minnesota, that's the risk. And then as soon as you have to start including additional guys, like if you do trade Dante, you suddenly have an extremely weak guard core after Anthony Edwards. And it's already a weak guard core after Anthony Edwards. If you trade Nas Reed, all of a sudden your front court depth disappears or some of the lineup versatility you have building lineups around a center that can shoot threes. Like there is a a lot of potential downfalls that come with that kind of move for a short term upside at almost certainly a sacrifice of your long term sustainability. And you guys know how I feel about Minnesota. I like this Timberwolves team because Ant has gotten so much better, because Jada McDaniel's having a career year on offense, because Rudy Gobert is catching and finishing around the basket better than ever. I view them as a top tier contender. I know Oklahoma City's dealing with a bunch of injuries and obviously when A.J. mitchell and J Dub are out, they struggle to generate offense when Shay's off the floor. But I've completely changed my opinion about the Minnesota Oklahoma City matchup compared to how I felt after the postseason last year. They've had a. They've had enough internal improvement that I actually think they have a real shot to beat Oklahoma City even just within this season as currently constructed. Even if they don't even make a smaller trade for like a Kobe White as a guard or for some sort of role player upgrade somewhere on the roster. Like I really like this Timberwolves team and I think they have some sustainability. So I don't love the idea like all you need is Baron J to hit and you know, like if just Baron J hits him. Jaden and Ant are a pretty strong foundation three, four years from now after some of these guys age out. Like they have some possibility for sustainability as is. So I don't like the risk reward proposition. I don't think it's just you add Giannis and then it's happily ever after from there. There's a short term risk in the form of lost depth and a long term risk in the loss of sustainability. So I do not like this for Minnesota at all. I'm super excited to tell you guys about our partnership with Viori. Those of you guys who are familiar with Vuori have noticed I've been wearing it on the show a ton over the last few years. It's become a workhorse for me. 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