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- [00:00]
Colin Cowherd
This is Doug Gottlieb from All Ball with Doug Gottlieb. Listen, I'm gonna get serious for a minute. The hate in our country is getting out of control. In fact, it's sadly at an all time high. But it's gonna take all of us to stop it. I mean, we're all on the same team in this country. So let's take a break from our hate so our team can regroup.
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Joy Taylor
We need to take a timeout against hate.
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Colin Cowherd
Visit standuptoallhate.org to help and join me in calling for timeout against hate by following at what's up with Hate or posting the blue square emoji.
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LeVar Arrington
Ah.
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Joy Taylor
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Colin Cowherd
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Nick Wright
We got the table.
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Colin Cowherd
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Tom Brady
Now let's get this party started.
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Colin Cowherd
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. All right, it is a Tuesday, a Tom Brady in one hour, Tuesday live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, thanks for making us part of your day. Nick Wright, Tom Brady, Mark Sanchez, Herd hierarchy in one hour, Full show, Jam stack show so you know Jimmy Johnson, J. Mac was on our show a week ago, and one of the things he said, and this is one of his mantras, is that you lose a lot more games in the NFL than you win. And that was Jameis Winston and Cleveland last night. First downs, Cleveland had more passing. First downs, Cleveland third down, efficiency. Cleveland was better. Fourth down, Cleveland was better Passing yards, Cleveland was better. Possession dominate, time of possession, Cleveland was better. Yeah, they had those pick six things. You lose a lot more games than you win. And Jameis Winston was exhibit A last night. Bo Nix never took a sack. Jameis Winston took a couple of beauties, like really badly timed sacks. Bo Nicks had two picks. One was a deflection, one was like a change of possession downfield, a punt. Jameis had four, two or pick sixes and one in the end zone. So sometimes a quarterback needs to be boring and manage the game. Jameis Winston is never boring. He's Evel Knievel at quarterback. He's a walking bachelor party. He's a parachutist who forgets his parachute. Those skydivers don't last long. Bo Nicks, however, as a rookie had a sense of timing, when to let it loose and when not to. And last night, last night was a shootout. And shootouts happen in the NFL. And Jameis Winston, of his 85 snaps, you went, wow with about a dozen of them and then you went, ugh with about four to five of them. Now, Bo Nicks had just 66 snaps. He had a couple of wows but it was mostly, there we go, add a quarterback. There you go, Slide, get down, get the first down. Again, very few wows, but Bo Nicks didn't really have a. Oh, no. And that's Jameis career. I'd argue Jameis Winston is arguably the most talented quarterback in this league. I would never build around. No, thank you. He would drive you nuts. Also. And I thought this was really telling, and I've said this before, a coaching staff will tell you what they think of your young quarterback by what they allow him to do. It's almost like with your kids, you will tell me how much you trust your kids by what you allow them to do. Sean Payton multiple times with a lead against Miles Garrett in the Cleveland pass rush, Sean Payton allowed Bo Nix multiple times to drop back deep in his end zone. He trusts the kid. That to me, was telling. Jameis Winston's a quarterback with a ton of talent, size, arm. Nobody trusts him. Sean Payton's like, kid, let her rip, go down the field, roll out and Cleveland with a lead. He's a rookie. Nah, it's okay. And to me, that was telling. And everybody keeps asking, well, is Denver for real? Folks, look at the boxes that playoff teams that win games. Check. Head coach, Denver A plus quarterback, capable pass rusher. Nick Bonito. Elite offensive line. PFF. Ranks Denver number two. Weapon. I love. Cortland Sutton, cornerback, best in the league. Every playoff box they check. Coach, quarterback, pass rusher. Weapon. O line, elite corner. Check, check, check, check. I could argue Kansas City didn't have all those boxes checked. Now they've got Mahomes and it's only Bo Nicks. But this was a classic example. This game didn't look anything like Denver thought it was going to look like. And Bo Nicks didn't have a lot of wow, but he didn't have six. What was that? Here's Sean Payton. After some games go maybe in a.
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Tom Brady
Direction you think they're going to go, obviously that one went in a much different direction. It was good to get the win. That's important because we're in this, you know, we're at that time of the season into December here, where all these things matter. And, you know, we were able to do that.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, so if you look at the playoff picture, the Broncos get a buy and then they get a host. Indianapolis, the closest AFC team to them in the playoff hunt. They'll be favored in that game and should be Denver at 8 and 5 week off. Perfect timing off a win, feeling good, hosting an offense that can't Throw the ball with any consistency. Indianapolis, I think Denver wins, goes nine and five. And again, if you ask yourself, are they for real? Do they check the six boxes? They check all of them. Little young at quarterback, but 61 college starts. Makes you feel pretty good about that in the way Peyton lets Bo Nix run around in the end zone. Tells me all I need to know. He trusts him in big spots. Okay, so I said this yesterday. I think J. Mac brought this up. We were talking about, is the Bears a good job? Well, so Kevin Warren, the president. They could have hired Jim Harbaugh last year, but Jim Harbaugh didn't like Kevin Warren. Kevin Warren used to run the Big Ten. They don't like each other. And so that's not going to happen. And you, you know, so you just kind of retain Matt Eberflufs who, you know, came into the season on the hot seat. So hot he's gone. But yesterday Kevin Warren made a pitch that this is a really good job and he may be right.
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Tom Brady
We're going to have plenty of salary cap space. We have a young, talented roster. We have strong draft capital in the upcoming draft. And we have a quarterback in Caleb.
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Colin Cowherd
Williams who's shown he is very special.
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Tom Brady
And in the right environment he can.
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Colin Cowherd
Become even more special than he already has shown.
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Tom Brady
When you look at all of these.
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Colin Cowherd
Elements as we sit here today, we are in a unique situation.
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Tom Brady
This will be the most coveted job in the National Football League this year.
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Colin Cowherd
Now at first I thought, give me a break. McCaskeys never had a 4,000 yard quarterback. And then I started thinking, well, there were questions, questions about the Chargers, but they had the quarterback, right? There were, there were questions for years and years. The Spanos family, ah, they're cheap, chargering. I mean there was a lot of stuff about the Chargers. They moved to la, played in a small stadium. Is it right? And all of a sudden you're like, yeah, they got the coaching staff right, they had the quarterback. So I thought about the job opening. Chicago, the jets, the Saints, probably the Jaguars, the Cowboys. I tend to think the Giants in Cincinnati should retain their coaches. Not sure if they will, but I would. So if you're talking about what did Jim Harbaugh, what was he attracted to? It's quarterback. And the two best would be Chicago and Jacksonville. Now the Jaguars have the younger, richer ownership. That is something. And also the Jaguars play in a much easier division. Whoever gets that Bears job, good luck against Green Bay and Detroit that have stacked, young, ascending rosters. And good luck with Minnesota they may have the best coach in the division, but. But I was thinking about these two jobs in Chicago. If you win. And I think coaches have to have healthy egos. The great ones do. The Sean Payton, the Belichicks, the Vrabels, Andy Reid, you know, I mean, the best coaches, McVeigh, Shanahan. There's a confidence. You know, some will say arrogance, but I think it's a confidence. And here's the thing about Chicago. If you win in Chicago, you're a rock star. Chicago had Oprah and Michael Jordan and Ditka and Mayor Daly and Wrigley Field and Belushi and Farley. Jacksonville, hey, they're opening a Chipotle next Wednesday. I mean, even if you win there, I mean, Jacksonville's where mobsters go to hide. Chicago was the mob. Like, it matters more. Chicago, historically, architecturally, politically, it's big. Chicago is big. Yeah, the division is going to be really tough. But I mean, Trevor Lawrence or Caleb Williams. Trevor Lawrence is on what, his fourth injury? Even when Jacksonville's been good, the whole country's like, can we get back to the Steelers and Patriots and Manning and Brady and winning games Like, Chicago matters. It's dysfunctional. Their politics and their sports are dysfunctional. Their history is fascinating. I just think there's a rock star quality to it. And if you look at what the best coaches generally look at, and this is why the jets job is dicey, not only do you not have a young, ascending quarterback, you've got an old prickly one in Aaron Rodgers who's increasingly expensive. And Dallas, I like Dak, everybody likes Dak. But as the highest paid player, he's a BB plus quarterback. Coming off another injury, I think Chicago is the best job for a lot of reasons. And one of it, coaches have egos. And if you hit it in Chicago, you're big and that matters. There are certain franchises, the late John Madden used to tell our management all the time, certain games sound big. Green Bay against the Niners, who. Who knows who's quarterback? It sounds big. You know, Raven, Steelers, even when Kenny Pickett played, it sounds big. The Bears can't get quarterback, right. If the Bears are playing Green Bay tomorrow, they could be 08. You'd be like, oh, it's the packers and the Bears playing. And I think that stuff matters. And for that I do think. And Caleb Williams and Montez Sweatt, Jaylon Johnson, Keenan Allen, Cole, Comet, DJ Moore. I think it is the best job. I've reconsidered. I mean, also I get Caleb for three more Years minimum on a rookie contract. That matters too. I've already paid Trevor Lawrence and he's expensive. It hasn't lived up to the contract. So. I think the Bears is the best job. J. Mac. Yeah.
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Joy Taylor
I love when you have a good reconsider.
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Colin Cowherd
Why?
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Joy Taylor
I slept on it, especially after I present the facts.
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Colin Cowherd
You did. And I was a little dire and I, you know, it's just been such a mess there. And then I went home and I thought about it and I thought, boom. Check, check, check, check. I like their players. We both like their talent. We both like their tight end receivers. We thought a year ago we thought their tackles were good enough. Now they regress badly under a defensive coach. My guess is if you get the right coach, it's like Denver. By the way, two years ago before Sean Payton got there, we thought the Broncos O line was a good left tackle and nonsense. PFF has it number two. Well, that's Sean Payton. He got at the top 10 last year. Now he's got it to top two. Andy Reid, by the way, is constantly rebuilding the online in Kansas City. They always find a solution by the trading deadline or November. So I kind of think it's the best gig.
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Joy Taylor
So the New Orleans Saints job is open. You know that division is going to be winnable every year because nobody's good. But is there any talent on the Saints compared to the Bears? It's night and day. It's not even close.
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Colin Cowherd
I think the, you know, I would rather have a different ownership group in Chicago, but I don't know. I mean. And also the Bears have again, they've got the 11th pick and if you look at their schedule, they'll probably end up with the eighth or ninth pick. And this draft is considered very top heavy. So that many people are saying there's only about 10 to 12 first round players this year. The Bears will get another one.
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Joy Taylor
I mean, again, Raiders job could be open. I mean, Pierce has got him. He's fighting, they're fighting hard. He just, he seems clueless. Is that a good job compared to the Bears?
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Colin Cowherd
Well, I get, I will. The Raiders is interesting. I get Brock Bowers, who is the best young tight end I've ever seen.
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Joy Taylor
He's a tight end.
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Colin Cowherd
I get Max Crosby, an elite pass rusher and I get Colt Miller at left tackle. So there are three boxes. Star weapon, left tackle, pass rusher. Okay, so I have a new GM who has a history of drafting pretty well. I mean, Harbaugh took over the Chargers, they got some good players. So there's some boxes there I like, but if you don't have a quarterback now, the hit rate for quarterbacks is going up over the last six to seven years. More and more of these guys are not only hitting, but the guys that failed Gino, Darnold, Baker, they're being reborn with better offensive coaching than 10 years ago. So I just think if I have Caleb for four years, I don't have to pay him in this roster. I'm going to deal with the Lions and the Packers. Excellent. That's a better job. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app this podcast is sponsored by PayPal. Now here's the kicker. The PayPal debit card earns you 5% cash back in a monthly category of your Choice. Up to $1,000 of monthly purchases. So groceries, health and beauty, gas, apparel, restaurants. On top of that, you can get cash back offers within the app from brands like Doordash, Instacart, Sephora. This month it's all about that apparel. I got a crazy schedule. I shop online a lot, Snag a suit here or there, fresh gear, 5% cash back adds up fast and signing up is easy. Just Download the new PayPal app to sign up and you're ready to start earning cash back on your everyday purchases. Pay smart. Earn cash back. Enjoy peace of mind with a PayPal debit card. Don't just pay PayPal terms and limits apply. See paypal.com rewardspal Cashback earned as points redeemable for cash and other options on up to $1,000 spend per month. The PayPal Debit MasterCard is issued by the Bancorp Bank N.A. pursuant to license by MasterCard International, Inc. And may be used everywhere MasterCard is accepted. How do you recognize elegant design? It's all about the details and the 2025 Genesis GV70 has athletic lines and a graceful coupe like profile. An artfully crafted SUV down to the smallest detail. An SUV with dynamic design with a premium interior that is both graceful and sporty. The GV70 offers a thrilling performance no matter where you're going. Exciting performance always at your fingertips and with launch control. Enjoy the thrilling power of takeoff. Standard navigation system with a stunning 14.5 high def screen. You're never lost. Unless of course you want to be. An advanced array of cameras and sensors. Never gets tired or distracted, so it always has your back. Standard advanced safety including a segment first center airbag for peace of mind all the time visit Genesis.com to learn more about the GV70. That's Genesis.com the holidays are just around.
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LeVar Arrington
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Nick Wright
Hey, this is Levar Arrington here from up on Game and listen, I want to talk to you about something very serious for a minute, all right? Something personal to me and right now, something that should be personal to you as well. In our country, the hate is at an all time high and it's like we're going backward. The hate is winning. We can't allow that, all right? It's out of control. So many different people, so many different groups are facing too much hate and it's enough. It's time for it to stop. We need to stop, regroup, change the momentum as a team. Because that's what we are. Everyone in this country is on the same team. So let's act like it. And when a team can't get it together, what do you do? You call a timeout. And that's what we need to do. Call a time out against hate. Let's think about what we say and do. And when we see hate, when we see someone doing or saying those things we know are wrong and hateful, we need to call it out. I'ma call it out. You need to do the same thing. Visit standuptolhate.org to help and join me in calling for a timeout against hate by following at what's up with Hate or posting the blue square emoji.
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Tom Brady
Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at the Daily show, which means he's also back in our ears on the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. The Daily show podcast has everything you need to stay on top of today's news and pop culture. You get hilarious satirical takes on entertainment, politics, sports and more from John and the team of correspondents and contributors. The podcast also has content you can't get anywhere else, like extended interviews and a roundup of the weekly headlines. Listen to the Daily Show Ears edition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Colin Cowherd
So Lakers lost again last night and LeBlanc LeBron James since he came into this league, even as a rookie. If you go back to LeBron James rookie year, take away the first two months when he's straight out of high school, he's 18 years old after the first two months from that point forward, he averaged 22 points a game and six and a half assists and finished top 10 in MVP voting. So even his rookie year he was probably 8th, 9th, 10th best player in the NBA and he's been in that top 10 forever. And then there's the last four or five games. So he is in an all time slump and it's his legs. In his last five games he's shooting 39% and on his best nights, LeBron James is a top 10ish player. And Michael Jordan, by the way, at 39 years old, scored 40 points three times. I saw one of those and he had 30 several times. But MJ and LeBron now are defensive liabilities. And if you're talking about the over the course of a season, he is no Longer a top 10 player. And that's the first time in his career I could say that Jokic is Wemby, Giannis, Luca ad, Donovan Mitchell, Jason Tatum, sga, Steph Curry, I think on a, you know. And again they've had five games in seven nights. So the first thing to go is your legs. And that's why he shot an air ball last night that he missed the rim by three feet. And it wasn't short or long, it was to the left. It was bad. So for the first time ever, LeBron does not feel, and this first time in like 20 some years, he does not feel like a top 10 player in the game again. He'll have his nights, he'll have his moments. And we saw that last night and the night before and he'll have his moments. But first time in his career, I do not believe over the course of a season because you can say, well, when he's rested, that's not the NBA regular season. This stuff counts too, not just the playoffs. Here's LeBron after. Is it not that often that you go through, you Know shooting slumps like this, there many things you lean on.
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Nick Wright
To try to get out of it.
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Colin Cowherd
No work. I saw. So he has missed 19 straight three pointers. 19 straight three pointers. J. Mac has never missed 19 straight three pointers. I'm not saying J. Mac's LeBron, I'm saying he's a gunner. But the point is 19 straight is beyond. Look at this one. Look at. Boo. That's brutal. I mean that, that is an 84 mile an hour fastball. I mean, these are bad for LeBron, who's got a pretty nice touch. I'm not knocking him like the guy's been. There's no player in the history of the league that was top 10 in the league for 20 plus years. Kareem's the only one close, but I think, and again, LeBron's going to have a 35 point game at some point during the season. I was at Michael Jordan's last year with the Wizards. I went to one of the games in which he had 40. He was unbelievable. But it's. Michael wasn't playing defense. Michael was inconsistent. Michael didn't get along with teammates. That's why J.J. redick very early in this maiden rookie season of coaching. First game, he handed the keys to ad. He knew who the best player was. And we can go back and forth on who the best Laker player is, but last year we said it past the All Star break, the best player was AD on this team. Now the gap has widened. J. Mac with the news.
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J. Mac
No, no, no, no.
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Nick Wright
Turn on the news.
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Colin Cowherd
This is the Herd.
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Joy Taylor
No, I'm over here. I'm resisting the urge to chime in on LeBron. I'm sure there'll be an opportunity later. Got to defend the king. Let's start with in the NFL with the Eagles in their eighth game winning streak, Colin Jalen Hurts has quietly been phenomenal. Twenty touchdowns, rushing and passing and just two turnovers during that stretch. But weirdly, the ink stained wretches in the media are calling him a game manager. Unbelievable. Partially because he just threw five times in the second half against the Ravens. Nick Sirianni is shutting down that narrative.
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Colin Cowherd
You'll say, well, game manager, that's, that's all bull.
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J. Mac
Like Jalen played an awesome game and.
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Colin Cowherd
His stats are going to say, right, we didn't throw it out. We were 11 and 19. He had 118 yards.
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J. Mac
But that guy made runs when he was, when he needed to make runs, he made good checks. You know, we haven't thrown it a lot in the Fourth quarter in the past month and a half of the season. So, you know, Jalen Stats aren't going to say that, but Jalen deserves, you know, Saquon deserves being a MVP consideration.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, Justin Herbert doesn't put up big numbers because it's a. There's a different way to attack it. I mean, the truth is Brady could have had much better numbers in his career, but they often played with leads in the second half. And so you call a game differently. You're trying to eat the clock and shrink a game. When Tom Brady's 35 and you're thinking, we lead 27, 17, middle third, you're trying to get the clock move down. So, I mean, I, to me, I don't. I've never been a stats guy. Momes is the best quarterback. I think this year, Josh Allen and Lamar look like the better quarterbacks. I don't care much about stats. I know this for Jalen Herz. He and AJ Brown are great together. He helped Saquon Barkley. Nick Sirianni said he, he got some really important checks. That stuff matters. I, I, I. All I know is Herbert and Jaylen Herz are franchise quarterbacks. Joe Burrow's putting up massive numbers because he trails, because he has to. He has no choice. So I don't get too caught up in, you know, like, pass. I always look at sort of completion percentage and passer rating. Can you get to at least 64% completion percentage if you're into the 50s? It scares me. And is your passer rating 98 or above? You're good. So.
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Joy Taylor
So I think the only mistake Sirianni made here was saying, yeah, Jalen deserves MVP consideration. Like, that's, let's not go there. He's not an mvp. The Eagles fun stat. They are last in pass attempts this season. And I know people will say, like, oh, there's a passing league. Just stop. The Eagles know what they are. We're going to run the football on you and just wear you down and then kill you with the play action with A.J. brown. Listen, and when Devonta Smith comes back, good luck guarding both of them.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, I don't know how many pass attempts Jameis Winston had last night, but it had to be closer.
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Joy Taylor
58, I believe.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah. Do you really want that, by the way?
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Joy Taylor
And they were winning late, you know, in the fourth quarter, and he's still chucking and ducking. I don't want that. That's not a pass.
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Colin Cowherd
I don't want Peyton Manning in his prime throwing 58 times I don't want Mahomes doing it with Kansas City's tackles. The bottom line is the Buffalo Bills are a better football team. The less they rely on Josh Allen. I mean, James Cook has changed their offense. They have a home run hitter. For years and years, we were always like, they can't establish a run game, now they have one. So Josh Allen on certain drives can be your number two pitch. So I don't want my quarterback throwing. I mean, Dak Prescott's history. If he throws over 38, he's awful. If he throws like 35 or less, he's pretty good.
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Joy Taylor
Yeah. Isn't it weird how three of the best teams in the league, Buffalo, Detroit and Philadelphia, dominate the line of scrimmage and run the football down your throat? Funny how that works is I'm told it's a passing quarterback league, but this is still one in the trenches. And that's where these three teams are dominating. They're the three best teams in the league, right?
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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Joy Taylor
Look at their running games. You can't stop them. Like, that's, that's what's smart. I, I just don't get it. Next up. Oh, boy. I don't know what Bill Belichick's doing here. And this is a good question for Brady when he comes on later. So Aaron Rodgers is struggling. You and I have called this all season. Belichick, for some reason is defending Aaron Rodgers, saying the 41 year old could easily rebound and have a good year next year. Adding, sometimes one season is just a bump in the road. It's not necessarily the end of the road. Now, obviously Belichick's forgotten more football than you and I know combined. Well, this is insane, Jim.
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Colin Cowherd
I mean, Bill's never had a great sense of offense. We all know that. Matt, Patricia, the offensive coordinator missed, was not a good. I mean, when's the last skill player Belichick drafted? It could be Gronk, I don't know skill player that was a Pro Bowler. So you could say, well, well, this guy Steve Spagnola doesn't know offense. And Bill Belichick does not. He does. He's not his. He's tone deaf to a lot of offense. He reached on draft picks. Offensively, he could not get a wide receiver.
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J. Mac
Right.
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Colin Cowherd
So the idea that I think Bill Belichick is a great coach, he's the best defensive coach ever. I don't want him near my personnel. I don't want him near it. So all these coaches have holes. Jimmie Johnson and Sean Payton and McVay, they know, personnel. A lot of these coaches, like Andy Reid's, like, it's not my thing. And Andy's the best play designer and play caller arguably of my lifetime.
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Joy Taylor
I think the issue is, like, okay, so Belichick's doing a lot of media now, but if he's gonna say nonsense like this because he doesn' want to, like, ruffle feathers, Aaron Rodgers would probably agree. This is the worst season he's had in 15 years, maybe the worst season of his career.
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Colin Cowherd
He's not. He's not a top 18 quarterback.
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Joy Taylor
Colin, they got him. Devonte Adams, and he hasn't done anything with him.
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Colin Cowherd
Zero impact.
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Joy Taylor
So like, like, even Rogers would say that. So why is Belichick saying this? Do you think there's some wacky world where Belichick's like, I think if I take a job.
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Colin Cowherd
No. And this is not a knock on Belichick, but since he's taken the job at espn, this is not a criticism of him. He has been sent. Rex Ryan did this when he first went to espn. They send messages to the league. Bill is constantly sending messages to the league. So Bill would rather coach than do media. And he's doing a fine job. I'm not criticizing him. But Rex Ryan sent a message about a week ago. Damn right I'd take that jets job. That was a message to Woody Johnson. So coaches do this all the time when they get tired of this side of the microphone and want to be on the other side. And I think I would do it too, if I was a football Bill Parcels and who I love, you know, these guys all, Sean Payton was here for a year. I went to dinner with Sean. I'm like, you got a coach. You're good at this stuff. You got a coach. And I knew I was going to lose him 20 times a year. But Belichick needs to be a football coach.
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Joy Taylor
So Belichick using a mic to send a message. When are you going to do that to get us some nice contracts here at Fox?
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Colin Cowherd
That's a different discussion.
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Joy Taylor
Okay, final story is Kirk Cousins. Colin, he is really struggling. Six interceptions in the last three games. He had four against the Chargers. I mean, this is embarrassing. There is chatter about Rookie Michael Penix Jr. You know, maybe taking over. But yesterday the media asked him about it, and Penix said that he believes Cousins will bounce back. Raheem Morris added, the team is sticking with Cousins. They will not turn to Penix. Falcons are five point underdogs in Minnesota. And I should add, I got some numbers here for you. We know The Vikings are one of the number one or two blitz teams in the league. Do you want to know Kirk Cousins numbers under pressure this year? Eight interceptions under pressure, second most in the NFL and under pressure 12 turnover worthy plays according to Pro Football focus. That's top 10 the NFL. This is a recipe for disaster this weekend for Cousins. Colin in Minnesota it's interesting I looked.
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Colin Cowherd
At, I have blazing five this week. I looked, I was struggling to find it. Now underdogs did very well over Thanksgiving. College and pro. A lot of underdogs did well. Go look at the lines this week. I struggled to. I liked every favorite.
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Joy Taylor
You like Minnesota here for the same.
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Colin Cowherd
Reason I, you watch you. I mean it's.
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Joy Taylor
Well the number was four and a half yesterday. I see it's up to five now.
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Colin Cowherd
I guess so that tells you the wise guy. The Sharps went and bet Minnesota.
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Joy Taylor
Yeah, I don't know. You know there's a bunch of guys who claim to be film guys now on social media and you go on there, they're breaking down film. They, they are claiming that Cousins has some kind of injury that's been undisclosed. And if you watch some of the throws it's like is he healthy? I mean Colin, he was not moving against the Chargers. He would rather just throw the ball and it's getting batted down.
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Colin Cowherd
At the last femix he couldn't drive the ball. That was very clear.
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Joy Taylor
And is there, is there a shoulder issue? I don't know. Would you, would you consider turning to Penix?
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Colin Cowherd
Absolutely I would. I have no problem with it if he's ready. Now again this very, very much Lamar Jackson with Joe Flacco. Flacco got old fast. Boom. They put him in. If Penix is showing you at practice he's ready. He may be Jordan Love where he needs another year or something but he played so many snaps at Indiana and Washington I think he's ready to play. And he played in like a pro style offense with Grubb, his offensive coordinator and Kalin DeBoer. So to me Penix was very NFL ready. I said this Bo Nick's, Penix were ready to play. Drake May was not ready to play. He just wasn't ready to play. And I think you've seen that J. Mac with the news. Well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the Herd lie. So I was watching Bo Nicks last night and I got this this morning. Bo nick since week four in the fourth quarter these numbers are incredible. Fourth quarter rookie quarterback 73% completion percentage 111 passer rating, six total touchdowns a pick. So there's two reasons for that. Sean Payton and Bo Nick started 61 college games. If you watch Anthony Richardson of the Colts, who started 13 college games a quarter, as many as Bo Nicks, you can watch Caleb Williams, Drake May and Anthony Richardson. And you can see the babysitting by the coaching staff. Bo Nicks last night with a lead against a good pass, rushes out there slinging it from the end zone. So this is one of these things. Those 61 college starts, it's immeasurable, it's hard to quantify how much it means. It's like when you're a young chef, your first job shouldn't be 6:30-8:30 Saturday night in a busy restaurant, right? Like, like, like when you get your, you go to driver's ed class and the first time you get behind the wheel probably shouldn't be on the autobahn. Like Bo Nicks is ready to play. 61 college starts, SEC, PAC 12, multiple coordinators, multiple coaches, dude is ready to play. And I was watching this last night. If you look at the playoff picture right Now, Denver at 8 and 5 going to a bye week, then the Colts, I think they look like a playoff team. I think you're all asking about Bo Nicks. I watched him last night. Yes, he is still growing, but I think he's fairly close to his ceiling. He's not going to get more athletic, he's not going to get bigger. I think his arm feels better than it was in college. I mean, where's Bo Nicks going to grow? He's going to grow in watching coverages and that part's obvious, but I think he's fairly close to his ceiling. I don't think Caleb's close to a ceiling. I don't think Dre Drake May's remotely close to his ceiling. I think Bo Nicks is closer to after 61 college starts and then three quarters of a season with, you know, Sean Payton, what you're watching, he's, what he's going to get is more refined. His completion percentage will go up. 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Nick Wright
Hey, this is Levar Arrington here from up on Game and listen, I want to talk to you about something very serious for a minute, all right? Something personal to me and right now, something that should be personal to you as well. In our country, the hate is at an all time high and it's like we're going backward. The hate is winning. We can't allow that, all right? It's out of control. So many different people, so many different groups are facing too much hate. And it's enough. It's time for it to stop. We need to stop, regroup, change the momentum as a team, because that's what we are. Everyone in this country is on the same team. So let's act like it. And when a team can't get it together, what do you do? You call a timeout. And that's what we need to do, call a time out against hate. Let's think about what we say and do. And when we see hate, when we see someone doing or saying those things we know are wrong and hateful, we need to call it out. I'ma call it out. You need to do the same thing. Visit standuptoallhate.org to help and join me in calling for a timeout against hate by following at what's up with Hate or posting the blue square emoji.
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Tom Brady
Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at the Daily show, which means he's also back in our ears on the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. The Daily show podcast has everything you need to stay on top of today's news and pop culture. You get hilarious satirical takes on entertainment, politics, sports, and more from John and the team of correspondents and contributors. The podcast also has content you can't get anywhere else, like extended interviews and a roundup of the weekly headlines. Listen to the Daily Show Ears edition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, we move my buddy Nick Wright, co host. First things first, he's crushing it up a little bit today because Tommy Brady, we don't move Nick very much. Tom's in house. You know, I feel bad.
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J. Mac
I don't know. I mean, I. I've been with the company 8 1/2 years. I mean, I don't know who needs to be bumping who, but. But I mean, I'll take it for your guy, Tom Brady. What I will say is this, this could be the start of the greatest 40 minute run in the history of the network.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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J. Mac
I mean you and me together. Then the herd hierarchy long awaited. Then Tom Brady and Colin. I mean, I don't know if this needs to go in the time capsule, but I think so.
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Colin Cowherd
So let's.
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J. Mac
We don't have a lot of time. Let's do it.
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Colin Cowherd
All right, let's start with the Bears. I said earlier today, Jim Harbaugh said I'll take the Chargers job. They have Justin Herbert. Kevin Warren yesterday said it's the best job opening. And I looked at it. I get Caleb Williams, I'm not paying him for four years. DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, Montez Sweat. How would you. I mean, is it the best job?
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J. Mac
Well, it's. Of all the jobs that we expect to come open, like it's certainly better than the jets and Saints jobs which are already open. You know, I love Trevor, but he has underwhelmed. That job should come open. The Bears job is better than that. Before the year there was thought, oh, is Philly or Buffalo going to be open? The answer to those are no, they are not. So take those off the board. Say Dallas comes open. The Bears job is better for everything you said and it's why I understand everyone is going to go after Ben Johnson, but for the Bears in particular, you are pairing an offensive mind with Caleb, which I think they must do. And you are weakening your biggest inter division competition in Detroit. So I think while a guy like Vrabel would be great for Jacksonville if that opens up to add stability, I think Chicago has to go offensive mind and fresh ideas. I love the Ben Johnson idea. If they could get him and if I were Ben Johnson. Of all the jobs that are open or are likely to come open, I certainly think Chicago is the most attractive because I believe in Caleb as much as I ever have.
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Colin Cowherd
So I'm watching in the snow globe and by the way, Buffalo look like they have. They were having the time of their lives. It was like when we were 8 years old and it snowed for the first time. They were out there playing in the backyard, but I noticed Josh Allen on one side and Brock Purdy on the other and I thought you want to pay them about the same. You and I always push back on the old Brockaroo.
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J. Mac
Yeah, we don't get we don't get yelled at as much as we once did. Those people switch over to Blue sky from X. I don't know what happened to him. You just don't hear as much of people. Why won't you give Brock Purdy his respect? And the answer is because Brock Purdy, like a lot of players, not an indictment, is a mirror. He is going to look exactly like the talent around him. And listen, the Niners, when they had five all pros on offense last year, all playing at their apex, Brock Purdy looked excellent. This year, when the Niners don't have the worst skill position in the league, the least talent, it's just league average. He looks league average. Which is why I think it would be insane after this year to pay Brock Purdy. I would certainly want to see him next year win. You know what talent is going to be around him. Was this year the anomaly or was last year the anomaly? I think it is worth noting that in his last 16 games he's 8 and 8. He has as many touchdowns as turnovers. His pass like 16 games. Not a small sample. Starting with that Ravens game last season which ended his MVP candidacy. But Colin, I want to be kind of first to market with this idea and bounce it off you. If the Niners season continues to go the way it does and they end up with a top 10 pick, is it crazy to suggest that they could draft a quarterback? Because I don't think it is. We saw Kyle Shanahan say I have a quarterback that I went to an NFC championship game and a Super bowl with. I think we can do better. And they gave up three first round picks to try to go get that guy. Now the guy was the wrong decision in Trey Lance, but the idea was he clearly thought if we had a mobile run threat quarterback, what this offense could unlock with Shador, Cam, word, Jalen Milroe, all being potential top 10 picks. If the Niners are sitting there, don't have to trade any draft capital to get one of those guys. And then almost assuredly could get a first round pick and then some for a team for Brock Purdy. Is that something that would be crazy? Rather than them as an aging team, an expensive team paying Brock Purdy $55 million a year.
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Colin Cowherd
Who is Shanahan's primary rival in this league? Sean McVay. McVeigh's got.
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J. Mac
What did he do?
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Colin Cowherd
So McVeigh's got an older pocket quarterback. Cam Ward would be a young, inexpensive, big arm, mobile quarterback. How do you catch up to your rival? The Rams are stacked with young defensive talent. The Niners are old. So I can see Shanahan saying, McVay's already got a ring. I'm not rebuilding on this team. Young dynamic quarterbacks shorten rebuilds. I mean, they change things, I think.
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J. Mac
Guys, because you can keep all the talent. And what I thought you were going to say about McVay is what did McVay have the guts to do not with the last pick of the draft, but with the first pick of the draft who had gone to a Super bowl, had an unbelievable season, 2018 said, you know what? We can be better now. There's not a Matt Stafford out there for them. I understand that. If this 5 and 7 turns into 6 and 11 and the 8th pick of the draft, I think that possibility has to be open for them.
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Colin Cowherd
Yep. No, I think, okay, I want to end with this. The Chiefs have the worst point differential for any 11 and one team ever. Offensive tackle worries me. I do like Isaiah Pacheco returning. They're not as good defensively now. I will say Burrow's got a bad defense. So does Lamar. I think that the NFC actually at the top. Detroit and Philly are kind of impressive. Buffalo's good, but it's, you know, we don't know. You have to acknowledge the margins are like this. They're like paper Finn with this Chiefs team, right?
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J. Mac
No, I don't have to acknowledge anything. And what I do have to do is force America to take, you know, take on a go on a trip with me a year ago because everyone's trying to act like this. Oh, this year is different. You realize if the Chiefs lost every game on the rest of their schedule, they would finish 116 last year. They actually did finish 116 last year. Mahomes numbers were worse. The offense was worse. They actually looked vulnerable. And then we saw what happened. Everyone is trying to retcon scenarios where the pass didn't actually happen and where this season they're like, well, they could have lost that game. They could have lost that game. But they didn't. And listen, unlike the Niners, who dealt with significant injuries and fell apart, the Chiefs by the fourth game of the season were without wide receiver, one wide receiver, two running back, one tight end, three, four and five, their number two corner. They're now without their kicker. They have beaten four of the five playoff teams they played. The one they didn't play, it's a two point game with two minutes left before Josh makes that amazing play. Credit to him. And everyone's like, oh, I'm worried about Mahomes had the worst six game stretch of his career. They have dealt with crippling injuries. Those guys are coming back and they're 11. One left tackle is a real concern, which is why they signed D.J. humphries who was a Pro Bowler two years ago. He will be the starter this coming weekend when they play the Chargers. I just, it is. This is what happened last season. Last season the entire media, except for, you know, a select few of us, really just me said this is the year to get the Chiefs. This is the year they don't have the magic.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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J. Mac
They then were underdogs in three straight playoff games, won the Super Bowl.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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J. Mac
And the whole media in unison said, I will never make that mistake again. Now they're 11 and 1 and people are like, nah, they're not that good. They're making the exact same mistake. So I would ask you because I know you have to go, but you're about to have Tom on because the Chiefs just broke a record. Most consecutive victories in one score games. 15.
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Colin Cowherd
Yeah.
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J. Mac
That record was held by the 0304 Patriots. Tom Brady, obviously his first back to back Super Bowl. His only back to back Super Bowl. Ask him. Hey Tommy, were you guys just lucky or maybe did you know how to win? And maybe is that having the best coaching quarterback thing pretty damn valuable? My guess is you'll say that, you know, they knew what they were doing. But maybe he'll say it's just luck. You know, it's just luck. Just a lot, you know, it's an oblong ball and weird things happen. Yeah, I think that's what it'll say.
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Colin Cowherd
I think winning close games is like winning at poker, which you're great at, which is there are sometimes the luck of the draw. But over the course of an extended amount of time on the table, skill and intelligence and efficiency wins. It's got a poker. You know, sometimes the fumble goes your way, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes the cards don't. But we have to go. Got 10 seconds.
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J. Mac
These other like the Lions are getting more injured. The Chiefs are getting healthier. Getting Pacheco back, getting Hollywood Brown back. The best team in the league by a mile. People will agree.
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Colin Cowherd
Well, mile is a lot. Mile is a lot.
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J. Mac
The best team by a mile. By a mile.
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Colin Cowherd
Nick's gone. Brady's next. Hour two in LA. This podcast is sponsored by PayPal. Now here's the kicker. The PayPal debit card earns you 5% cash back in a monthly category of your Choice. Up to $1,000 of monthly purchases. So groceries, health and beauty, gas, apparel restaurants. On top of that, you can get cash back offers within the app from brands like Doordash, Instacart, Sephora. This month it's all about that apparel. I got a crazy schedule. I shop online a lot. Snag a suit here or there, fresh gear, 5% cash back adds up fast and signing up is easy. Just Download the new PayPal app to sign up and you're ready to start earning cash back on your everyday purchases. Pay smart, Earn cash back. Enjoy peace of mind with a PayPal debit card. Don't just pay PayPal terms apply. See PayPal app cash back earned as points you can redeem for cash and other options. This card issued by the Bancorp and a person went to license by MasterCard.
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Tom Brady
International, Inc. Catch Jon Stewart back in action on the Daily show and in your ears with the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. From his hilarious satirical takes on today's politics and entertainment to the unique voices of correspondents and contributors, it's your perfect companion to stay on top of what's happening now. Plus, you'll get special content just for podcast listeners like in depth interviews and a roundup of the week's top headlines. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Colin Cowherd
It's hard to read the news these days without asking yourself, how did we get here? Fiasco is a history podcast from the co creators of Slow Burn. In our first season, Bush v. Gore, we examine an unmistakable turning point in American politics. The 2000 election, which resulted in a high stakes stalemate, ended with one of the most controversial rulings in Supreme Court history. So if you're trying to make sense of the present moment, check out Fiasco, Bush v. Gore. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. The forces shaping markets and the economy are often hiding behind a blur of numbers. So that's why we created the Big Take from Bloomberg Podcasts to give you the context you need to make sense of it all.
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J. Mac
Every day in just 15 minutes, we.
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Colin Cowherd
Dive into one global business story that matters. You'll hear from Bloomberg journalists like Matt Levine. A lot of this meme stock stuff is, I think, embarrassing to the SEC. Follow the Big Take podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen. Hey, it's Mike and Ian. We're the hosts of how to do everything from NPR's wait, wait, don't Tell Me. Each week we take your questions and find someone much smarter than us to answer them. Questions like, how do you survive the Bermuda Triangle? How do you find a date inside the Bermuda Triangle? We can't help you, but we will.
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Joy Taylor
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