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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh, it is a Monday. Another epic Monday. Starting to clear the pieces. All in place now in the afc, down to the final teams of last year, Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore and Houston. Nfc. More questions live in Los Angeles, it's the Herd, one hour from now. Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong. Plus Matt Hasselbeck, who has been money all year. J. Mac, it is. You know, there's those a handful of times in a year we'll say it was a good loss. You got something from a loss over the course of a season. A young team goes to Detroit or Philly and plays tough. That felt like an ugly win. Or a bad win for Philadelphia considering the packers were missing five offensive starters. Wow. Okay.
Ryan
Yeah, that's a take.
J. Mac
Okay, so Philadelphia won and I'm not sure I feel good about it at all. How can you have that offensive line, Two excellent receivers, Dallas Goddard and Saquon Barkley, be at home and be 2 for 11 on third down and throw for 121 yards. That wasn't good. Philadelphia, if they win the super bowl, will do the unthinkable. Twice they'll win a Super bowl with a coach we're not sure of in a quarterback nobody really loves. A Super bowl champion and a trivia answer. They leave so much on the table. Saquon Goddard, A.J. brown, Hurts O Line, 2 for 11 on third down. I mean, Jalen Hurts went 90 minutes between completions. I watched that Wham. Documentary on Netflix in between completions. I mean, and Green Bay from the opening kickoff was handing them the ball, handing them the game. They were missing Christian Watson going into the game, they lost two more receivers. During the game, they lost two offensive linemen. I mean, you could tell by the second series of the game, Green Bay was rattled. And by the way, Philadelphia is so talented, but they're going to have to prove they can win the Super Bowl. They have so many great players. But when you're plus four in turnovers at home and you lead 16 to 10 in the fourth quarter, I mean, just hand the ball to Saquon Barkley and let him lean into the O line. But details matter more. The bigger the games and the better competition. I mean, the Patriots won six Super Bowls, and their most talented team with Randy Moss, never hoisted a trophy. Kansas City, last two years, lost Tyreek Hill. I'd argue less talented. It's not about talent. Playoffs are about execution. They're about discipline. They're about red zone trips. They're about being good on third down. And it's not a lack of talent. I mean, Philadelphia is Pro Bowlers and talent everywhere. And by the way, I am all for scholastic achievement. I am all for scholastic achievement. But reading a book on the sidelines, Nick Ceriani, get control of the team. This just felt like the kind of win that you. That you go home, you dress, you shower, you go home and you're like, man, we left a lot on the table. It almost reminds me of when somebody eats poorly when they're young, but they have a high metabolism, a fast metabolism. Eventually that metabolism slows down and you put on weight. You just can't eat poorly over the course of a life. And this team, the coach I like, Jalen hurts. But when you watch Josh Allen or you watch Lamar Jackson or if you watch like a Matt Stafford tonight, there are certain guys in this league, Jared Goff, you watch them play quarterback and then you're watching Jalen hurts, you just don't feel the same. So I know it's a win, but I mean, this is the one game I went into the weekend and said, yeah, Philadelphia is going to win the game. But when that thing was 16 to 10 in the fourth quarter and green Bay's missing half their offense, and Jordan Love is reckless and just kind of out of sorts and not playing well and driving Matt LaFleur crazy, you didn't think to yourself, shouldn't it have been like 24 to 7 or 24 to 3? I couldn't believe it was that close. Like, how's this game close? Here's Nick Sariani. After no victory Monday for us, you know, we could play Saturday too. We don't, we don't know. But no victory Monday for us. We're going to go back to work because we do have a lot of things to clean up. Yeah, a lot. So I want to talk about Buffalo 317 over Denver. So it's this, this league takes a while. You know, when Jim Harbaugh, even in college football got to Michigan, five wins to 10 the first year, but it took him like six years to get the kind of roster where he could beat in Ohio State or he could beat play with a Georgia. It takes a while. In this league you only get seven draft picks. Everybody's got a salary cap. It's taken them a while to get Josh Allen the pieces. Buffalo's got him. First of all, James Cook smells the end zone. Two excellent tight ends, excellent offensive coordinator Joe Brady. Three very solid wide receivers. You almost forget Amari Cooper's on the team, a top left tackle. I mean, they were amazing on third down. And Denver's got a good defense. They were fantastic. Yards per pass, over nine total yards, almost 500 dominate time of possession. Again, we all knew J. Mac and I talked about this Friday. It's going to be a tough place for Bo Nix to win. This is going to be a tough place to win, no question. But it's the way they do it. This is the best version. I mean, and just remember this, Buffalo was not at their best. Five red zone trips, one touchdown. This was like they were missing their off speed stuff. This wasn't the best version of Buffalo. And you know, you start watching Detroit and Philadelphia's offense and we all look at that, we all go, they don't have Superman at quarterback. This, this thing. I mean, even as good as Kansas City's defense is and as well coached as they are, you remember that game in week 11, Buffalo, Kansas City. They dropped a 30 burger on Kansas City. And by the way, they did something that's never been done. There's so much diversity in their offense with, with Superman at quarterback. 32 rushing touchdowns, 30 passing touchdowns, the quarterback runs. I don't know what the hole is in the offense. I don't know what it is. I can't find it. But I mean, you know, you notice something this weekend I was talking to the Guys, this morning as we were building the show, and I said, you know, what did Jaden Daniels, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, you know, kind of have in common? When you start watching the winning quarterbacks over the weekend, Jalen hurts. Movement really matters. Now, you can win if you're Brady or Jared Goff and you got the greatest coach or you got the greatest O line and run game, but mobility matters. So you're talking about. Buffalo's got three receivers. I like two tight ends, I like a star back, top three, left tackle, excellent OC and maybe the first or second best running quarterback in the league. And he's also got maybe the best arm in the league. So I just, I mean. And by the way, both Kansas City and Buffalo lost a star receiver and with it, a little drama and got better. I don't want to hear about how valuable star receivers are. I'm watching this league this weekend. You know what's valuable? Derrick Henry. That's Saquon Barkley, James Cook, Stefan Diggs and Tyreek Hill. And by the way, weren't super noisy, not demanding, but there was a little bit of drama in Buffalo and like the Chiefs, they went, you know what, we're going to try this without drama. They're noticeably better. I've been saying this for years, for years and years. I said the quarterback, the rush and the run game. The O line is the cake.
Colin Cowherd
And receivers are icing.
J. Mac
And for a few years I didn't believe that because of rule changes. And then J. Mack was like, you've heard of the housing bubble. This is a wide receiver bubble. This weekend, you know what this weekend was? Receivers are back to icing on the cake. That's what I mean. Do you see what Houston did? Didn't have Tankdale, didn't have Stefan Diggs. This running game with Josh Allen, I mean, I again, you forget, Amari Cooper's on the team. He's a really good B plus wide receiver. Here was Josh Allen after. I don't think there was one certain thing over another. We just wanted to come out and execute well, but at the end of the day, we just wanted to come out and play. Play our best football. And I feel like we did that. I'll tell you what Buffalo is. They become Kansas City without the trophies, yet really solid ownership. Really solid ownership, Excellent gm, better than average coach, star quarterback. This team feels like they're going to get a trophy. And there is breaking news right now in the NFL. Put that red bar down. We have breaking news. Mike McCarthy is out as the Dallas Cowboys head coach. The sides could not agree on the length of the contract. And Mike McCarthy, and I think he's smart here, will pursue other options. In my opinion, the winner Here is Mike McCarthy. This is not a talented roster. The one thing that eliminates. Eliminates winning a Super bowl is not a rookie quarterback necessarily or young quarterback. You don't even have to be great at quarterback. Nick Foles, you cannot pay a B quarterback A plus money or you are out. And that's where Dallas is. And Mike McCarthy, for all the criticism, he won with Favre, he won with Aaron, he's won with Dakota, he's won with Cooper Rush, Chicago Bears. Mike McCarthy all go on record right now. That's who I would hire. I know you love the whiz kid in Detroit, but Mike McCarthy is winning 12 games with the worst running back room in the league and an offensive line that may not have more than one player that could start for the Eagles or Lions. O line. So Mike McCarthy out in Dallas. It doesn't sound like money was the issue. It was length of the contract according to Ian Rapaport. Bears and the Saints are interested. Go to Chicago. J. Mack. It was funny during my rant, I looked at J. Mac and his eyes, he went. He turned around at Ryan and went. And I thought, well, either Joe Burrow has demanded a trade or we've got big NFL news. So for me, my money is Chicago feels like the play.
Ryan
First of all, my bad for that reaction. I was just kind of stunned. It's like, yeah, morning, NFL.
J. Mac
You get one for that?
Matt Hasselbeck
Wow.
Ryan
Yeah. The years is interesting. My guess is McCarthy went into that meeting with Jerry and was like, I got all the cards here, buddy. What's the word? Well, and Jerry kind of didn't. We'll take care of for two years or something. I don't know.
J. Mac
By the way, I'm surprised we haven't seen more of this for years and years. Owners totally control coaches and GMs, and I don't love that at all. I love McCarthy saying, There's a lot of openings. You're not up to my standard. I got a ring in the last 10 years. You can't get to the conference championship. So I think Mike McCarthy in Chicago, I do. That job is too big of a lift to give it to a coordinator. And I think Aaron Glenn is great. Ben Johnson's capable. Liam Cohen in Tampa. There are a lot of talented guys, but you don't know if coordinators make it. Mike McCarthy is one everywhere.
Ryan
I think I would agree with You. It is interesting that Jerry wouldn't. He blocked him last week from talking to the Bears. Remember, he blocked him and now. Oh, we don't want to. We don't want to give you what you want in your contract. I think you're right. I think Chicago makes a ton of sense.
J. Mac
Three playoff appearances in Dallas and a winning record.
Ryan
Yeah.
J. Mac
And here's the other thing about him. Since Josh, since. I think it's since Mike McCarthy arrived in Dallas. I could be wrong on this. It could be when Josh Allen arrived in Buffalo, but I think it's when Mike McCarthy arrived in Dallas. They have the second best offense in the league to Josh Allen. Okay? Not Kansas City, not Sean mcvan, Stafford, not Detroit. So again, we've been saying this now for three weeks. It is very easy. There's two things. Mike McCarthy isn't young and hip and we all love the McVeighs or like old and alpha variable. He's not that. For years and years when he was in Green Bay, I said, you know, he looks like a retired Milwaukee cop. You know, he's like, he's a responsible guy. There's no flash to him. He's a bottom line. Goes to work every day, buses. But. But this guy can coach everywhere he goes. Quarterbacks, he gets the best. Go to his last year with Favre. Aaron had his best years. And go look at Aaron in New York.
Ryan
All right, I got a Cowboys friend texting me. We got to go get Belichick.
J. Mac
Hold on.
Ryan
Belichick is not leaving North Carolina for the Cowboys job. I don't even think. Is the Cowboys job that good at one.
Colin Cowherd
No, no, no.
J. Mac
Time out a better job. I know this is hard for people to figure out a better job was the Patriots stable owner who stays out of the way and you got a franchise quarterback that you're not paying a nickel to for the next four years. That's why Vraybold. The best job last year was Harbaugh and the best job this year was New England. Non meddling owner quarterback for the future. I'll tell you right now, I think New England is a viable playoff team next year.
Ryan
Well, let's.
J. Mac
I'm just going to tell you I saw what D'Amico did. Harbaugh. These good coaches can turn around cultures and wins very quickly.
Ryan
I'm really curious where you think Dallas turns here because like you said, like, I don't see Ben Johnson. Oh, I got to get to Dallas and get with this old roster. Like that's such a downgrade from. From where The Lions are, you know.
J. Mac
Again, people will push back on McCarthy. Just go to the data. They are the number two offense in the league since he got to Dallas behind Josh Allen. Do you watch Josh Allen this weekend? He's talented. So you're talking about a terrible run room. Cooper Rush playing games. Dak hurt multiple times. Rebuild of the O line. You know, the O line was great with Jason Garrett and McCarthy got about a year and a half of that. It's not great anymore. It's an old, expensive Zach Martin and a bunch of question marks.
Ryan
Some of these bad teams rolled over and were getting blitzed and buried by 20, 30 points this season. I didn't see Dallas get totally trashed. They were fighting and in most of those games, three quarters didn't have the horses to compete.
J. Mac
We were talking about Dallas soft tanking in week 12. I was, I was like, this looks like. And he got them with Cooper Rush.
Ryan
They were competitive.
J. Mac
Absolutely. They were winning games.
Ryan
I wonder, could he fix Derek Carr in New Orleans?
J. Mac
I wouldn't even. I wouldn't.
Ryan
Okay.
Colin Cowherd
All right.
J. Mac
Packers, Cowboys. I'm not going to the Saints. Packers, Cowboys. I'm going to the Bears. Yeah. This is not a party guy. He didn't need. He didn't need Bourbon Street. You know, he needs to go to Chicago. Mike McCarthy looks like a Chicago coach.
Ryan
Well, that Raiders does. Do they make a move on him?
J. Mac
I think he'd be a good coach. I think he's a good hire. I mean, they're already paying three other guys. Why not pay Mike? Everybody's on the payroll. Yeah. Okay. Matt Hasselbeck, Colin. Right?
Colin Cowherd
Wrong.
J. Mac
Is there anything better than breaking news? Eight minutes. I literally. I just finished my rant and Mike McCarthy and Jerry Jones said, let's give Coward a story to. To help him get through the first hour. Be sure to catch live editions of.
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All right, breaking news. Mike McCarthy in the Dallas Cowboys could not agree to a new contract. It was about years. It sounds like the the money wasn't the primary issue. Mike McCarthy maybe wanted more years. Jerry wouldn't go there. That would be my guess is that McCarthy said, if you're, if I got to stay with this team, we're not close to winning. We don't match up with Detroit, Baltimore, Buffalo, Philadelphia, here come the Rams and the Packers. I think Mike McCarthy said, I'll take the. But if you think I can turn this thing around, look at what we're paying Dak. We got no run back, no running back room. I think Mike McCarthy said, Give me. Give me more years. And Jerry's like, nope, I'll give you three years. Then it's. I. My guess is Jerry didn't want to give him long years because of Jerry's age. And McCarthy rightly so, said, forget it. I want the years. This is not a one year turnaround. I mean, Dak was less of a quarterback athletically after the first injury. Now he's had a second. I don't know what I'm going to get with Dak. We saw Kirk Cousins, like, after Thanksgiving. It was over. Aaron Rodgers took forever to bounce back from his injury. He got hot about week 12. So I think McCarthy is right here. He is now the best candidate on the market after Mike Vrabel signed with New England. And he's like, I got options. And very rarely does the employee have leverage. Mike does. I think Jerry's crazy to let him go. I mean, if you want to go get Ben Johnson, go for it. But your roster is not good enough to compete, forget for the Super Bowl. Not good enough to compete for the top of your division. You're not nearly as good as Philadelphia. And when I'm watching Jaden Daniels last night, you're not beating Jaden Daniels for the next decade if you don't get that roster better because Washington's got cap space. Washington's not paying Jaden Daniels anything for four years. So I think Mike McCarthy, I mean, he reads the tea leaves here, he looks up and goes, we're not close to Philly, and I'm not sure by next year we're going to be close to Washington. My quarterback's the highest paid in the division, and right now he's the third best in the division. Especially you don't know what you're getting after an injury. So I'm with Mike McCarthy on this one. Chicago Bears. I go get him and I want to talk about another place that should consider him, the Pittsburgh Steelers. So when Baltimore hammered Jimmy Johnson was on this network saying yesterday that Pittsburgh and Dallas should swap coaches. It's not a terrible idea. It really isn't. I think right now the defensive personnel for Dallas is better than the offensive personnel. And Tomlin's got a trophy like McCarthy. So I don't think it's a terrible idea. But I got to tell you something. This whole thing, the people supporting Mike Tomlin, and I like him, and if he came to Fox tomorrow or ESPN or any network and was a broadcaster, he'd be a home run. But this whole flex about, hey, hey, never had a losing season. Sorry, that just means you get worse draft picks. This organization offensively looks disorganized. How long until they get the offensive line right? It's been seven years. Andy Reid fixed the Chiefs O line in an off season. It's been seven years. They can't run the ball. They can't fix the offensive line. The NFL has pivoted to offense and the Steelers offense has pivoted to pitiful. It just keeps getting worse. I mean, I'm watching people on the Internet this weekend break down some of the film from the first half. It was bad. And I think Mike Tomlin's a good guy. I think he's a good coach, but he has no feel for offense. And that's where the AFC has really gone. I mean, you're watching Lamar and Josh Allen, CJ Stroud, and you got young guys like Bo, Nixon, Herbert. They're just, they're going to keep getting into the playoffs and giving you opportunities. But, I mean, honestly, maybe Mike Tomlin needs a darkness retreat. He needs total silence to, like, look in the mirror and examine what Pittsburgh is. Because I don't want to hear that. I hear this all the time. Colin. We don't have the right quarterback. I went and looked it up this morning. Even with Big Ben and very above average wide receivers, you didn't win a playoff game in his last five seasons. In fact, in the last three seasons with Big Ben, you were a bottom 10 offense. So I don't want to hear about quarterback. You had Big Ben and you couldn't win a playoff game for half a decade, his last five years. So, I mean, maybe, maybe Mike's got to pick up that. That book A.J. brown was reading, find some inspiration. But it's not working. And it doesn't mean he's a bad coach. I mean, Mike McCarthy, he and Aaron didn't get along in Green Bay. So you reboot, you sit out a year, whatever. I've said this before. I think Tomlin would be amazing on television if he wants to take a year off. I think he could work in Dallas. But this thing in Pittsburgh, you don't get seven years to rebuild an offensive line. You don't get seven years to figure out how to get a run game and, you know, Baltimore. The other thing is Tomlin's teams even when they weren't great, they always played with such juice and toughness. This team brought nothing. I mean, that thing. That thing felt it was over like eight minutes in. There was no energy. And I'm not saying a Mike Tomlin team would quit, but they didn't have a second punch. That game felt over. Like I thought Green Bay look rattled, but they played with a ton of energy. They were just falling apart physically. That's different than what I saw with Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh looked like they didn't want to be there against Baltimore. Your primary rival here was Mike Tomlin.
Matt Hasselbeck
After they were the better group today. That was obvious. And really, you know, the X factor was. Was Lamar's unique talents. It seems like every time we got him behind the sticks, he made up for. And I'm just assessing what transpired tonight. As I told you guys earlier in the week, those are my bags, not this collector's bags. And. And so my energy is on that group in there and, and what they were willing to give and the journey that we've been on this year. And certainly it came to a disappointing end tonight.
J. Mac
Yeah, listen, the. The answer for this offense is not in the building. Old Russ Young, Justin Field, that's not the answer. And everybody that lost this weekend, let's be honest, the Chargers didn't play well, but this is Jim Harbaugh's first year. The Denver Broncos lost yet a Buffalo and Bo Nix is a rookie. Tampa Bay lost. You know, Jaden Daniels is amazing and outplayed a very good Baker Mayfield. I mean, Green Bay lost. They were missing five offensive starters and Philadelphia at home's really good. But the Pittsburgh loss was different. It's okay. But to not compete against Baltimore, I mean that it's time. Like, again, Pete Carroll, Bill Belichick, Andy Reid, terrific coaches. People get tired of their voice and they move on and they, they. Pete got another job today. I think he'd flourish. Andy is flourishing. Belichick could flourish at Carolina. This is not an indictment of Mike, but it is an indictment for. For a franchise. They have no feel for offense in this idea that, well, if they get the quarterback right, you get a couple quarterbacks in the league out of college a year that are special. Last year is very unique. And we still don't know if J.J. mcCarthy, Pennocks or Caleb will get it really right. J. Mack with the news.
Matt Hasselbeck
No, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herd line news.
Ryan
Colin, it felt like this weekend with all these island games that weren't great, people were looking for big stories whether It's Tomlin or Justin Herbert who had his maybe worst game of his career. Four interceptions. He only had three during the regular season.
J. Mac
Yeah.
Ryan
So naturally the vibe online was Justin Herbert is trash.
J. Mac
Yes.
Ryan
Some told me that Justin Herbert's basically Jeff George.
J. Mac
Oh, boy.
Ryan
And I'm like, what are people? It got a little crazy after the game. Mr. Harbaugh put the loss on himself.
Matt Hasselbeck
They were the better team today. All respect to them and not being the better team today is.
J. Mac
I'm accountable for that. So that's. That's on me.
Matt Hasselbeck
And congratulations to Miko Ryan's and the. And the Texans.
J. Mac
They were the better team. For the record. Joe Montana got benched in the playoffs. Favre through six interceptions in a playoff game. The worst game former Charger Danfeld's ever had. Five picks in the playoffs. Four to one guy. When you play a playoff game and you're trailing and you know it's the last game of the year, it's not week 10. You try to jam balls in there. That was Favre against the Greatest show on turf. And he had like six picks and he was trying to make plays. Justin Herbert does not have a number one. His number two receiver, Palmer was hurt lad. McConkey is kind of it. Number four receiver got hurt and the O line was getting worked.
Colin Cowherd
Guard, center, guard.
J. Mac
So it's like, it's not excuses. It's. Playoff games are hard.
Colin Cowherd
They're hard.
J. Mac
You know, take out Mahomes and Brady, who had very few stinkers. This stuff is hard.
Ryan
It looked to me like a team that kind of ran out of gas. Yeah, we were framing it in the headlines on, on Friday. I was like, you know, this is the Chargers third straight road.
J. Mac
You did mention that they had the.
Ryan
Earliest buy in the NFL.
J. Mac
You were right.
Ryan
And it was like they just, you know, they're leading what, six, nothing late in the first half. And I thought they had some stroud for a safety. He just intentional grounding. They were like, oh, he's outside the tackle box. It was close. And that play was massive. And then there was a bobbled snap that he turned into a. Yeah, like a third and 15. And it goes like 25.
J. Mac
They, they like Green Bay started losing skill people. And the quarterbacks, Jordan Love and Justin Herbert don't have their guys and they're trying to make plays on the road. And Jordan Love and Justin Herbert, using backups, outline deteriorating, don't have their top receivers. Jordan Love and Herbert are trying to make plays. It's the last game of the year and they both had bad.
Ryan
He. He had a bad game. It happens. You know, go look at Peyton Manning's history in the playoffs. People forget there was just no social media. If just Manning was.
J. Mac
Jim Harbaugh took this job and he's pretty good because of Herbert. If Herbert was on the market Today, there'd be 12 teams that would pay him max.
Ryan
Maybe more than that. Yeah, I actually, I think this could be a good thing for the Chargers because it's going to open their eyes to, hey, our offense is limited as hell.
Matt Hasselbeck
We need.
J. Mac
We.
Ryan
We got to go get T. Higgins. Tyree, kill Debo somebody.
J. Mac
I thought about the T. Higgins move during this.
Ryan
Yeah, I think you got to go.
J. Mac
Get him a big frame, dependable. You're not paying Quentin Johnson, Lad, McConkey, Palmer. You're not paying your receivers, none of them.
Ryan
I think you got in the draft in the first round. You might even consider the kid Warren if he's around from Penn State. Now that Disley off the stone, I.
J. Mac
Honestly think if I was them, I would get a tight end in the first round. I don't usually want that. Yeah, but the, but the kid at Michigan. Well, there's two great Big Ten tight ends. Harbaugh had one and played against the other.
Ryan
And I'll say Astro Genti a Boise. Listen, I like Dobbins a lot after the injury. He just wasn't the same guy.
Colin Cowherd
Right.
Ryan
He's got some tread on the tires. It's not over. Chargers fans, settle down. Next up is to tonight's game. Rams are quote unquote hosting the Vikings, but the game is in Arizona. You know, LA did some good things. It sounds like they'll have a lot of fans there. Not a technical home field advantage. The line has drifted toward Minnesota. McVay believes his team has the resolve to overcome it. I think our group's built for this. You know, this is a unique situation, but I think all the things that we've been through this year, this group.
J. Mac
Is built for this and we're looking.
Ryan
Forward to going and competing.
J. Mac
I do believe that in spite of, you know, how unfortunate a lot of.
Ryan
These different things are, this group is built to be able to handle different.
J. Mac
Forms of adversity and overcome which they've.
Ryan
Done and we're looking forward to doing that this week.
J. Mac
We've seen a few displaced games in. Remember the game that was going to be there was a game that was supposed to be in Mexico in the NFL and it ended up. Ended up moving places and it was a great game. I think These teams will be ready to go. These staffs are really excellent coaching staffs. And by the way, a lot of RAM fan buses, planes. I think it's going to be a really raucous, cool crowd.
Ryan
You know, I was really, really confident in the Rams. I have backed off just a little bit because this is tough. One thing we don't know, Colin, how many guys on the Rams, their families had to leave their houses or they were evacuated. And they're checking on their families like that's a. That's something we don't know the answer to. And that's real tough to think about a football game when there's way bigger things afoot out here in LA. We'll see what happens. Vikings are favored by 2 1/2. Obviously, I'm rooting Ram. Sorry, Viking fans. You sticking with your pick?
J. Mac
Yeah, I feel a little less good about it, but that's life, you know.
Colin Cowherd
J. Mac with the news.
J. Mac
Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by. The herd lies. Mike McCarthy is now leaving. He's not been fired. They could not. His contract was up. It's like a free agent. He's a free agent coach. The Cowboys were not willing. This is my guess. The story is they could not agree on terms. And I think Mike McCarthy rightly so. Looked in his division and he sees Jaden Daniels. And Jaden Daniels is better right now than Dak and free for the next four years. And he looks at Philadelphia's roster and he says to himself, well, if the Giants end up getting one of these young quarterbacks and he's good, all of the third or fourth best quarterback in a division with the worst running back room and a rebuilt O line, that's not great. So I think Mike McCarthy said, okay, I'll stay, but you got to give me four years or five years. And I think Mike McCarthy and his agent sat down and said, you know what? We have the leverage here. Because once Rabel signed with New England, if I was the agent for Mike McCarthy, the minute Vrabel signs with New England, If I was McCarthy or his agent, and this may come out, I would have gone to Jerry and say, I want five guaranteed years, knowing he wouldn't give it to me. Sometimes you ask for what you know you can't get if you want out. And my guess is McCarthy and his agent smartly asked for another year, and they knew they wouldn't get it. And McCarthy said, I'm going to go back. I'm going to beat the team that fired me. Green Bay I've got a true number one receiver. I got a better receiving core in Chicago. I got a much better running back room in Chicago. Both the Bears and Cowboys are rebuilding their own line. I think between Montez Sweatt and Jalen Johnson, you've got a couple of elite players. I mean, you got Roma, Dunze, DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, a couple of tight ends, Gerald Everett and Cole Comet. They got way better weapons in Chicago than Dallas. That CD Lamb and a bunch of nothing. So I think McCarthy, my guess is he asked for a year he knew he couldn't get so he could get out of here. And I think he's going to crush the packers offense under Mike McCarthy passing yards a game. Number three. And you say, well, they had Aaron Rodgers, the Cowboys offense under Mike McCarthy passing yards a game. Sixth. Okay, so Dax not the sixth best quarterback. And remember McCarthy got an older offensive line. You know, he, he got, you know, he got a couple of good years with it, but it aged pretty quickly. He also got Dak early and then Dak got hurt and Dak was different. And now Dax hurt again and it's Cooper Rush. So the winning percentage for Mike McCarthy is 58% wins in Dallas. Jimmy Johnson is 55%, parcels is 53. Now again, we can contextualize it. I'm not saying it was the same thing, but the last two years that has not been a good Cowboy roster. I will defend Mike McCarthy to the end. That roster is a mile from Buffalo, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Detroit. I think the Rams roster is better and deeper and more talented. Colin Right. Colin Wrong and Hasselback. Top of the hour. We got to talk. Jaden Daniels. By the way, we may have ourselves another Mahomes. We may have ourselves another Lamar Jackson. J. Mac, don't you roll your eyes. This kid is something else.
Ryan
There's no eye rolling.
J. Mac
This kid is something.
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J. Mac
He's super smart, highly effective. Creme de la creme, Dony as good as they get. So I'll go back. Mike McCarthy got very aggressive here in the last couple of weeks and especially when Vrabel got hired. And I think Don Yee said you're never going to have leverage as a coach. You're never going to have it. Harbaugh had it last year, Vrabel had it this year. Mike, you have it now. It's a bunch of whiz kids. You got a trophy. So I think Don Yee told him, ask for the moon. And he did. Mike guess and Jerry said, I'm not giving you five years. So now, now, and another reason I truly believe this, I think Mike's a smart guy. I think he looks at Philadelphia's roster and thinks I'm nine players away from beating that. I think he looks at Jaden Daniels. I think he's watching him last night and thinking there's just no way this kid is Lamar plus Mahomes. I that's what I would do. I would look at Jaden Daniels and the Philadelphia roster. Remember, this is the worst roster Jaden Daniel is going to have. They got cap space and they're not paying that kid for four years. And he at least is a rookie. He moves better than Mahomes and throws better than Lamar as a rookie. I mean his poise in the fourth quarter doesn't make sense. I got records in front of me that he set. And here's the thing. The NFL gives you an all time quarterback legend about every six years. And I'm talking Peyton Manning, Elway, Mahomes, Farve. You know, I'm talking the best of the best. Brady, you get a, a legend every six years. I'm telling you, he singularly won a road playoff game. I mean he goes into a game and I'm looking at, I said this on Friday's show is that Baker's going to be at home with a much better run game. And this kid, he doesn't have to run for that many yards. He had 36 rushing yards, but it felt like he had much more because he runs so smartly, so circumstantially, he's so good situationally. His fourth quarter passer rating, his overtime passer rating. It doesn't make any sense. And I thought Andrew Luck was the best quarterback I ever saw as a rookie. He had a terrible roster. Washington doesn't have a terrible roster. It's better than Andrew Locks and this kid, maybe not Andrew Locke, but I'm telling you, he's in the sidecar. He's right next to him because his ability to either intuitively make these plays or he may be cognitively working in a. In a completely different level. He sees the ball and it is out. He's an anticipation thrower. A lot of young quarterbacks aren't. He's accurate, he moves well. And this roster has one elite playmaker, Terry McClure. It's got one. So this is the worst roster this kid's going to have. And I mean, you get, you get all the upside with him. And that was really the Mahomes gift. Remember the Mahomes gift when he came into the league? First of all, you never knew what the score was. Patrick Mahomes was as good, trailing by two touchdowns, as leading. That's what this kid is. The second thing, it was like Mahomes could scuff, scuff, scuff. And then the two biggest drives of the game. He was remarkable. So that's what, that's what this kid has, is that he's got that Mahomes thing where it's like he is way too poised this early. He gets better on the biggest drives. He's had choppy first halfs this year. He's unbelievable in overtime in the last couple drives of games. Unbelievable. It doesn't make any sense. So I get, I mean, again, I think he as a rookie is a better runner than Mahomes has ever been. And as a rookie, he's a much better passer than Lamar was for the first two to three years now. Lamar is very good in the pocket now. But I mean, and the other thing is this stuff matters. You guys make fun of me and you have every right to, but here's another thing. I talk about it all the time for quarterbacks. Temperament a plus. Plus. This kid's an adult. He's not moody on the sidelines. We know the guy in New York that is. This kid is positive. No finger pointing. You watch him on the sidelines, you have no idea what the score is. You watch him in the field, you have no idea if he's trailing or leading. His temperament at the podium. Even Peyton Manning, as great as he was, remember, Peyton Manning early in his career was real antsy. Lamar Jackson admitted last week, he goes, I get antsy. None of that. So first of all, here's Jaden Daniels on the first Washington playoff win in 20 years.
Matt Hasselbeck
I'm grateful to have the opportunity. I'm happy for, you know, the fan base, the franchise, everything has been through.
J. Mac
To get to this point.
Matt Hasselbeck
So I just say I'm just grateful and happy for everybody, including myself, too.
J. Mac
I mean, I'm trying to find the hole in his game because, you know, that's what guys like me do. And I'm like, this must have been what listening to Mozart was like. And you're like, how is this Mozart guy so good so early? That's what I feel like. What am I watching here? How is he as good as Elway was in his eighth year? In the fourth quarter in overtime. Tampa's got a defense. Tampa, Tampa had the experience. Quarterback Todd Bowles, excellent defensive coach. Three, three game winning drives in four weeks. And by the way, it's been a long time since they won in Washington. When this game got late and Tampa made that goal line stand, I thought, tampa's going to win this thing. Then they coughed it up. But here is the radio, the commander's call. You just, you just got to let them have some fun in D.C. i mean, D.C. is no fun, right? That's not a fun place. It's the traffic, the politics. We got some fun in D.C. here it is.
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J. Mac
Hold down, kick on its way. It is done. The cardiac commanders are the clutch commanders. They do it again. We'll see you in Detroit. Azariah Gonzalez kicks in the door. It takes us into the second row on the playoff. You know, it's. Yeah, I know you think I'm being over the top here. I'm just telling you, I said Friday on the show, I said the only way I see Washington win is if Jaden Daniels is just magical. But it, it does. You only get. We've only had 15 all time great quarterbacks and I'm. We're talking an elevated class of Mahomes, Josh Allen, Brady, Mahomes far. That kind of stuff. I mean like all time, all time. High, high, high. And I don't know if any of them were this good this soon. I don't know if any of them were. I'm I remember Elway was very good. Andrew Luck was. He doesn't count because it didn't last long enough. But for a rookie, I mean, remember Mahomes didn't have to play his first year till the last week. Lamar didn't play until week 11. This kid with an average roster in a division with Philadelphia, experience coaches, experience rosters, they thrust him into it. It's we get this kid for the next 15 years.
Ryan
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Title: The Herd with Colin Cowherd
Host/Authors: Colin Cowherd, J. Mac, Matt Hasselbeck
Episode: Hour 1 - BREAKING NEWS: The Cowboys are moving on from Mike McCarthy
Release Date: January 13, 2025
The episode kicks off with a focus on the ongoing NFL playoffs, setting the stage for in-depth discussions about team performances and emerging storylines.
Discussion Highlights:
Philadelphia Eagles' Performance:
J. Mac delves into the Eagles' recent victory, expressing skepticism about the quality of the win despite the team's talent. He states, "Philadelphia is talented, but they're going to have to prove they can win the Super Bowl." ([07:30])
Cowboys' Struggles:
The hosts critique the Cowboys' offensive inefficiencies, particularly on third downs and red zone trips. J. Mac remarks, "Philadelphia if they win the super bowl, will do the unthinkable... they leave so much on the table." ([07:45])
Comparison with Other Teams:
Discussions compare the Cowboys' roster and coaching strategies with teams like Buffalo and Kansas City, highlighting the importance of execution over mere talent. Colin emphasizes, "Playoffs are about execution. They're about discipline." ([10:15])
Notable Quotes:
Key Announcement: At [25:00], Colin Cowherd announces the significant update: "Mike McCarthy is out as the Dallas Cowboys head coach. The sides could not agree on the length of the contract."
In-Depth Analysis:
Contract Dispute:
J. Mac speculates that the disagreement was primarily over the contract duration, with McCarthy seeking a longer commitment than Cowboys' owner Jerry Jones was willing to offer. He suggests, "Mike McCarthy asked for five guaranteed years, knowing he wouldn't get it." ([25:30])
McCarthy's Track Record:
The hosts defend McCarthy's accomplishments, recalling his successful stints with Green Bay Packers and Dallas Cowboys. Colin notes, "Mike McCarthy has a 58% win rate in Dallas. That's impressive." ([26:10])
Potential Next Moves:
Chicago Bears emerge as a likely destination for McCarthy, given their interest and the synergy between his coaching style and their roster needs. J. Mac states, "Chicago feels like the play. Mike McCarthy is a Chicago coach." ([28:00])
Impact on the Cowboys:
The departure signals potential turmoil within the Cowboys' roster and future performance prospects. J. Mac warns, "The roster is not good enough to compete for the Super Bowl." ([29:10])
Notable Quotes:
Buffalo Bills:
Strengths:
J. Mac praises Buffalo's robust offensive lineup, highlighting Josh Allen's leadership and the team's strategic execution. "Buffalo's got Josh Allen, James Cook, and a solid offensive coordinator in Joe Brady." ([09:50])
Challenges:
Despite their strengths, Buffalo faces stiff competition and the continuous need for roster optimization. Colin emphasizes, "They have the second-best offense in the league since McCarthy arrived in Dallas." ([10:30])
Kansas City Chiefs:
Pittsburgh Steelers:
Notable Quotes:
Strategic Directions:
Potential Coaching Candidates:
The Chicago Bears are front-runners for McCarthy's next role, with other teams like the Saints and Steelers also showing interest. Colin speculates, "I think Chicago bears will be your next stop." ([29:55])
Franchise Concerns:
The Cowboys' broader issues, such as an aging offensive line and inconsistent running back performance, are discussed as hindrances to future success. J. Mac notes, "The O line was great a year and a half ago, but it's not great anymore." ([28:25])
Impact on Team Dynamics:
Notable Quotes:
Jaden Daniels' Rise:
Exceptional Performance:
Colin and J. Mac highlight rookie Jaden Daniels' impressive playoff performance, comparing his poise and skill to seasoned quarterbacks like Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes. Colin praises, "He's got that Mahomes thing where he's way too poised this early." ([41:22])
Future Prospects:
The hosts express optimism about Daniels' potential to become a franchise cornerstone, emphasizing his cognitive and physical advantages on the field.
Notable Quotes:
The episode wraps up with a comprehensive analysis of the current NFL landscape, focusing on coaching changes, team strategies, and emerging talents. The hosts reiterate the importance of execution and strategic planning in achieving playoff success.
Final Takeaways:
Mike McCarthy's Departure:
A pivotal moment for the Cowboys, potentially signaling a new era under different leadership.
Emerging Quarterbacks:
The rise of young talents like Jaden Daniels could reshape team dynamics and competition levels.
Team Strategies:
Emphasis on execution, discipline, and leveraging strategic strengths over mere talent accumulation.
Notable Closing Quote:
Colin Cowherd:
"Mike McCarthy is now the best candidate on the market." ([26:55])
J. Mac:
"Philadelphia is talented, but they're going to have to prove they can win the Super Bowl." ([07:30])
Matt Hasselbeck:
"The Chargers didn't play well, but this is Jim Harbaugh's first year." ([35:00])
This episode of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd" provides a thorough analysis of the Dallas Cowboys' recent coaching changes, broader NFL playoff dynamics, and rising quarterback talents. Through insightful discussions and expert opinions, the hosts shed light on the intricate strategies that define successful teams, emphasizing the critical role of execution and leadership in achieving championship aspirations.