Loading summary
Transcript104 lines
- [00:00]
Angela Rai
This is an iHeart podcast.
- [00:05]
Unknown
Time for a sofa upgrade. Visit washablesofas.com and discover Annabe where designer style meets budget friendly prices. With sofas starting at $699, Annabe brings you the ultimate in furniture innovation with a modular design that allows you to rearrange your space effortlessly. Perfect for both small and large spaces, Anime is the only machine washable sofa inside and out. Say goodbye to stains and messes with liquid and stain resistant fabrics that that make cleaning easy. Liquid simply slides right off. Designed for custom comfort, our high resilience foam lets you choose between a sink in feel or a supportive memory foam blend. Plus our pet friendly stain resistant fabrics ensure your sofa stays beautiful for years. Don't compromise quality for price. Visit washablesofas.com to upgrade your living space today with no risk returns and a 30 day money back guarantee. Get up to 60% off plus free shipping and free returns. Shop now at washablesofas.com Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions. Restrictions May apply.
- [01:05]
Sarah Spain
Join iHeartRadio and Sarah Spain in celebrating the one year anniversary of iHeart Women's.
- [01:11]
Angela Rai
Sports with powerful interviews and insider analysis. Our shows have connected fans with the heart of women's Sports. In just one year, the network has.
- [01:18]
Sarah Spain
Launched 15 shows and built a community united by passion podcasts that amplify the voices of women in sports. Thank you for supporting iHeart women's sports.
- [01:28]
Colin Cowherd
And our founding sponsors E L F.
- [01:30]
Angela Rai
Beauty, Capital One and Novartis.
- [01:31]
Sarah Spain
Just open the free iHeart app and search iHeart Women's Sports to listen now.
- [01:36]
Danielle Robay
In 2020, a group of young women found themselves in an AI fueled nightmare.
- [01:42]
Colin Cowherd
Someone was posting photos. It was just me naked. Well, not me, but me with someone else's body parts.
- [01:49]
Danielle Robay
This is Levittown, a new podcast from.
- [01:51]
Colin Cowherd
Iheart podcasts Bloomberg and Kaleidoscope about the.
- [01:54]
Danielle Robay
Rise of deepfake pornography and the battle to stop it. Listen to Levittown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Just like great shoes, great books take you places through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget.
- [02:15]
Angela Rai
I think any good romance, it gives.
- [02:17]
Colin Cowherd
Me this feeling of like butterflies.
- [02:19]
Danielle Robay
I'm Danielle Robaix and this is bookmarked by Reese's Book Club. The new podcast from hello Sunshine and I Heart Podcast where we dive into the stories that shape us on the page and off each week. I'm joined by authors Celebs book talk and more. For conversations that will make you laugh, cry and add way too many books to your TBR pile, listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [02:47]
Colin Cowherd
Thanks for listening to the Heard Podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the herd@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Now, let's get this party started. You're listening to FOX Sports Radio. Here we go. It is a Friday. Oh, and there's already news breaking my coming news. All right. Former Bears coach Dave Wonstadt joins us in an hour. It is another bumpy day. J. Mac for Caleb Williams. So we know in OTAs Ben Johnson got, you know, a little miffed. Couldn't get the play into the huddle. They're asking him to do some different stuff sometimes under center. A lot of those coaches like that. Sean Payton likes that. So are you ready for the new news, J. Mac?
- [03:49]
Sarah Spain
Lay it on me, big guy.
- [03:51]
Colin Cowherd
Okay, so yesterday, three days ago, he struggled. Ben Johnson was furious. Couldn't get the play in and out. Yesterday, struggled with a deep ball. Today, Caleb Williams, two red zone picks, one tip ball, another one horrible pass. So three days in a row, it's gotten a little bumpy for Caleb Williams. So people say. I hear athletes say this. I hear people say that you can't take a lot from camp. You can see red flags, positive, negative. Andrew Luck, Jaden Daniels, first week of camp Commanders Colts. You were hearing glowing reports. Disastrous first dates rarely become great. 30 year marriages. I've interviewed lots of people in my life. Disastrous interviews never become great. Higher. It matters. Sean Payton last year was texting me in August. He's like, Bo Nix. That may take a few starts. Guy's going to be good by October. BO Nix 103 passer rating. You can see good. It can be one of those musical shows. It can be a athlete. It can be an inner. It could be a first date. You can see stuff. What do they say? Men decide in eight seconds. Women decide in eight minutes if they want to spend any time with this person. So Caleb Williams was sold as a generational talent. We were all hoping it would be this generation, right? Like how long do you want us to ask last and, and wait. So remember this? Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson's first year with Jared Goff, let's go back to that. Remember that that Lions Team 2022 was not the roster it is now. The old line wasn't quite set. Jared Goff, first year with Ben Johnson, now the Bears coach, led the NFL, 29 touchdowns, seven picks, seventh and passer rating, sixth and passing yards. And again, that Lions team isn't the one now that's three off seasons ago. The Lions team now, I don't think is as good offensively as the Bears team right now with their personnel. So I feel this quarterbacks in 2025 are a little bit like streaming shows, bro. If you're not getting me by the second episode early, I'm out. Used to be three years. Give Eli Manning three years. Those days are over. Private coaching, seven on seven camps. You can transfer in high school and college to a better place. Those days are over. He's got to be good by late September and early October. And that streaming show, you know it and I know it by the second episode. If you're 8, 10 minutes in and you're like, the writing's bad, it doesn't work, you're on to another streaming show or another service. And so I think you got it. You got to grab people early in this relationship. So Ben Johnson yesterday said it's not as bad as it was reported. But today, seven on seven drills, red zone, two picks. Not good. Here's Ben Johnson. I know some people enjoyed me throwing the first team out of practice.
- [07:02]
Sarah Spain
Not the case.
- [07:03]
Colin Cowherd
We got to end up executing getting in and out of the huddle a certain way and it wasn't that way. And we're learning, we're growing.
- [07:13]
Sarah Spain
You know, there's some things from the.
- [07:14]
Colin Cowherd
Springtime expected to carry over that that was probably one we just don't have any tolerance for anymore. We got too far to go. Yeah, I mean, we've. This is year two generational talent. Hopefully this one OTAs three days at camp, every day at something else. I like him a lot, but the critics make good points. Hero ball runs backwards. A lot of this NFL quarterback stuff is is work ethic and getting in and out of plays and not making big errors. You know, I say this all the time about Mahomes about three times a game. Jaw dropping, 27 drop backs. He's just hitting the drag routes. So Caleb right now struggling with the layup stuff, the easy stuff. Don't throw picks in the red zone. Dirt it. Throw it. You know what they say, red zone. You got to throw it lower out of the end zone right so today, two picks, not great. So yesterday I did a rant and it got a lot of. It was a couple days ago and it got a lot of play. And I, I, I, I, my, my rant was, anytime you talk Michael and LeBron James, and LeBron's been in the news because he hasn't made contact with new Laker market smart guys on vacation, put your phone down. When I go on vacation, I'll run into people. Who's filling in for you? I have no idea. It's not my company. I put my phone down. I move on. I'm going to defend LeBron on that. We should all put our phone downs and disappear when we go on vacation and be with our kids and our families and our wives and our in laws or whatever. So I had this rant that LeBron will never be as beloved as Michael because we went through the Michael journey with him. We saw the Pistons beat him up and he had multiple coaches and we saw the Celtics beat him up and we lived through his journey. He was a college basketball player at Carolina, the great shot against Georgetown. So sports makes you feel something and Michael makes us feel something. And LeBron has been, you know, I called him in my rant the ultimate basketball opportunist. And it was seen as a shot at LeBron. And I want to add clarity, it's not. I would have left Cleveland the first time, too. Seven years couldn't get him an all star. You don't owe your first team that drafts you your entire career. College kids now transfer two or three times. But if I was LeBron, I would have stayed in Miami because of Eric Spoelstra, Mickey Harrison, the owner and Pat Riley. No state tax. It's a winter league, warm weather and the Miami Heat are always in contention for great free agents. I would have stayed there. Now people say, well, LeBron, his heart was in Cleveland. No, it wasn't. He left it a second time. He understood going to Cleveland was good for his brand. He didn't like being a villain. He acknowledged that later. The Sports Illustrated letter and I'm not banging on people who leave Cleveland. Our staff put a list today of people that have left Cleveland. It's a lot of Drew Carey and George Steinbrenner and Steve Harvey and Paul Newman and the Kelsey's and Drew Carey and Logan, Paul and LeBron James. A lot of people leave Cleveland. There's just, you know, there's New York, there's Chicago, in the Midwest, there's la, there's London, there's just There's Cleveland's not a place you have to stay or that is always great for commerce. It's a great place to be born and from. Sometimes it's not a great place in your prime to be living right for your career. So I'm not banging on that. But don't tell me that LeBron. Cleveland's where his heart is. He's not going to retire in Akron. And he left it twice. And the reason he left was time. He wanted to go to la. It was good for his brand and he could play with bigger stars because bigger stars like Luke and AD like to play in Los Angeles. And so I go back to this. Is that the downside? And I speak from experience to bouncing around the country in your career. You know, if anybody's followed me, I. Vegas, Tampa, Portland, Fox, espn. The downside of that is that, that, that, you know, you never live in that cul de sac where your kids grow up and they have lifelong friends. I have to live with that. The upside to moving around a lot, and LeBron has seen this, he's overall played with better teammates. Michael's best teammate, he's got one great one, Scotty Pippen. I mean, LeBron's got D. Wade and Kyrie Irving and Chris Bosh and AD and LeBron's played with more great players. LeBron's been to more finals. LeBron's had fewer long droughts or battles within an organization. He bails for commerce. And that's okay. But my whole point was for athletes, we love the perseverance. There is a beauty in the struggle. They make 30 for 30s on the struggle. They're almost all about somebody overcoming turbulence, chaos, fighting and winning. That's where they make 30 for 30s from. And sports is romanticized. And we've always thought of Michael as part of our sports love story. LeBron has simply been transactional. That's the downside to being the best basketball opportunist ever. You played with better teammates, you made more finals, you made a lot more money, by the way, as a player. But it's hard to fall in love with that. You fall in love with the people in your cul de sac. Same high school, same people you grew up with. Thanksgiving, next door neighbor may just pop into the house with a gift. You don't get that with LeBron and you got it with Michael. And that's really the difference. Okay, so I know you're thinking I'm obsessing about this Caleb Williams stuff, but Jaden Daniels hit Bo. Nick's Hit. I'm going to be all over J.J. mcCarthy. I think Drake Mays hit. I think the J.J. mcCarthy, Caleb Williams stories. If these guys hit and Penix hits, it's a 6 for 6 draft with quarterbacks in the first round. Never happened. And I do think struggling. It's red zone one day, deep balls next day, can't get into a play the next day. It matters. A lot of athletes say, well, you can't take everything or anything from camp. You can take some stuff. I remember last year, J. Mac, Jayden Daniels, I said this five times on the air. I'm like, generally coaches kind of keep quiet to lower expectations on rookies. And we said this four or five times. Dan Quinn, Kingsbury kept coming out publicly and going, this is unbelievable. And this was after like three practices. You can watch those musical shows, the Voice or American Idol years ago. You can see great very quickly. Now it may be hard to tell good to very good or bad to disaster, but you can see awful and you can see great very quickly. And I don't think it takes long on a date or a job interview or for a young quarterback to see trouble. Sean Payton was texting me last year in camp and he was like, kid's going to be good. Said give him a few starts. You know, he's got to get up to the speed. You know, nobody starters don't plan preseason. Can't take a ton for preseason. But he was saying, the kids got it, he's going to be good soon. And by October, Bonix was a really good quarterback.
- [14:47]
Sarah Spain
Yeah, well, it's a perfect seamless move from what Drew Brees look like in the pocket to Bo Nix. Very similar. You know, I look at Jared Goff and then I look at Caleb Williams. Those are two polar opposite quarterbacks. And I just wonder. I'm starting to wonder. And again, I probably shouldn't, but this is you hammering away at Caleb Williams every day. I'm starting to wonder like, you know, Ben Johnson, great offensive mind, we don't know what he's going to be as a head coach. Head coach is a lot more difficult than just being an offensive coordinator. And so far, you know, rocky start. Maybe you're on to something.
- [15:19]
Colin Cowherd
I don't know. It is interesting when a guy comes with a great reputation as a coordinator. Like, like for instance, Kyle Shanahan came in with a great reputation as a coordinator that's usually successful. I mean, Sean McVeigh came in and people were saying this guy's as Sharp is any 30 year old coaching person. In the league, and he was a home run. Now, there are guys, you're not sure how it's going to work, but, I mean, Ben Johnson, we talked about him for two years. We were like, dude, he is. He is calling and dialing up misdirection trick plays. Like he was. He was not your typical offensive coordinator. Like, he was somebody we were sort of mesmerized by. We were mesmerized by Kyle Shanahan, so. And by the way, when Kevin o' Connell got the job in Minnesota, he was called the tall Sean McVay. People said, yeah, he is really sharp. When D' Ameco Ryan's went to Houston, defensive coach, but I can remember making a call to the Niners, and they're like, bro, he moved up our organization in two years. He was our sharpest assistant, first day on the job. So I do think Ben feels like more of a McVeigh, a Shanahan or a Kevin O'. Connell. Zach Taylor wasn't somebody. People said he was bright, but he didn't get all the accolades of Ben Johnson or Kevin O' Connell or Kyle Shanahan. People say, you know, he's McVeigh's guy. But Raheem Morris, people liked him. McVeigh liked him. He didn't get the accolades. Ben's coming in with a lot of momentum.
- [16:52]
Sarah Spain
Yeah, well, one thing we. I totally forgot until you just said it now. So Belichick went from Drew Bled, so successful, to Brady. Similar quarterbacks, big strapping pocket guys, right? Andy Reid goes Donovan McNabb, who was, you know, really, really good quarterback. We forget that. To Patrick Mahomes. Similar, like, can run but can win.
- [17:10]
Colin Cowherd
Even. Alex Smith was a mover.
- [17:11]
Sarah Spain
Alex Smith was a mover. Jared Goff to Caleb Williams, you would agree those are not the same type of quarterbacks. Colin and I just wonder if the learning curve is a little larger for Ben than we thought it might be.
- [17:23]
Colin Cowherd
I think that's a very legitimate and a very good point. It's like going from Matt Ryan to Caleb Williams, Jared Goff to Caleb Williams. It is. It is a total different sensibility. And I do think Andy Reid has mastered and Nick Sirianni has done a good job with this. You have to let athletes be athletes. John Harbaugh has always said there are times Sean McDermott and the offensive coordinators at Buffalo, you got to let Josh Allen be Josh Allen. You cannot have a rigidity with coaching. So it. That's a very, very fair point. The home you've worked so hard for be sure to catch live editions of the Herd, weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, we're Covino and Rich, Fox Sports radio every day 5 to 7pm Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to. And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two hour show. We never get to everything honestly, because this guy is over promising things we never have time for. Yeah, you blubberlip. Blaming me. Well, you know what it's called Over Promise. You should be good at it because you've been overpromising women for years. Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show and we want you to be a part of it. We're going to be talking sports, of course, but we're also going to talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time, it will continue on our after show called Over Promised. Well, if you don't get enough Covino and Rich, make sure you check out Over Promise and also uncensored by the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's gonna be the best after show podcast of all time. There you go. Over promising. And remember, you could see it on YouTube, but definitely. Join us Listen to Over Promised with Covino and rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [19:08]
Unknown
There's nothing like sinking into luxury. At washablesofas.com, you'll find the Annabe sofa which combines ultimate comfort and design at an affordable price. And get this, it's the only sofa that's fully machine washable from top to bottom. Starting at only $699. The stain resistant performance fabric slipcovers and cloud like frame duvet can go straight into your wash. Perfect for anyone with kids, pets or anyone who loves an easy to clean spotless sofa. With a modular design and changeable slipcovers, you can customize your sofa to fit any space and style. Whether you need a single chair, loveseat or a luxuriously large sectional, Annabe has you covered. Visit washablesofas.com to upgrade your home. Right now you can shop up to 60% off store wide with a 30 day money back guarantee. Shop now@washablesofas.com Add a little to your life. Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply who cares about truth.
- [20:08]
Colin Cowherd
When the lies more entertaining.
- [20:10]
Angela Rai
Hey everybody, I'm Angela Rai, co host of Native Lamp Pot with Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillum. Through the lens of politics and culture, we talk with you every week to make sense of this madness. I've been telling Angela I don't even know how to fight back right now. So what I'm focused on is just looking out for ourselves. That's the truth.
- [20:29]
Colin Cowherd
We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country.
- [20:33]
Angela Rai
Rest is certainly a form of self care, but if you are watching your full neighbors starve, not be able to pay bills, your rest is selfish. But the thing is, Angela, this is not the mess we created. So I do understand black folks feeling like, you know what? Y' all got it.
- [20:50]
Sarah Spain
We're like family, but we disagree all the time. All the time. And we love when our listeners chime.
- [20:55]
Angela Rai
In what would happen if we built our own little Wakandan communities in the rural South?
- [21:00]
Colin Cowherd
Tiffany, do not run to no rural South. I don't know what you're on.
- [21:04]
Angela Rai
What our audience is asking is. Okay, fine, you want me to stop resting? What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take action.
- [21:15]
Colin Cowherd
Listen to Nativeland Pod on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome home, y'. All.
- [21:24]
Angela Rai
Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebonae, and every time Tuesday, I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all. Childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles and more. And found the strength to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant, but he wasn't shot on street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal. He was shot in his house, unarmed. Pretty Private isn't just a podcast. It's your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
- [22:30]
Dr. Leitra Tate
Sometimes it's hard to remember, but going.
- [22:32]
Colin Cowherd
Through something like that is a traumatic experience, but it's also not the end of your life.
- [22:38]
Dr. Leitra Tate
That was my dad reminding me and so many others who need to hear it that Our trauma is not our shame to carry and that we have big, bold and beautiful lives to live after what happened to us. I'm your host and co president of this organization, Dr. Leitra Tate. On my new podcast, the Unwanted Sorority, we wade through transformation to peel back healing and reveal what it actually looks like and sounds like in real time. Each week I sit down with people who've lived through harm, carried silence, and are now reshaping the systems that failed us. We're going to talk about the adultification of black girls mothering as resistance and the tools we use for healing. The Unwanted Sorority is a safe space, not a quiet space. So let's lock in. We're moving towards liberation together. Listen to the Unwanted Sorority. New episodes every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [23:33]
Colin Cowherd
Well, fans do it all the time. I understand it when they do. Media does it too often. I don't like it when they do. They pander instead of just saying the truth out loud. Andrew Barry is a very strong, sharp general manager of the Cleveland Browns. I've said before, Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Barry have overcome a lot. I think they're both top 25% of the league at their respective jobs. Andrew smart. And instead of pandering, which the media constantly does with young athletes, Andrew Barry said what Chadour Sanders did getting two speeding tickets as a fifth round draft pick as a quarterback was dumb. Here he is not smart. Just not just not smart. It's not just about, you know, driving a car really fast, but it's about the fact that you can endanger other people. It's about the fact that if a deer or someone, you know, cuts out in front of you like your reaction time, it's just dangerous. And it's not something that we want our guys to be doing. It's not something that they should be doing. And the number one reason is because we don't want some type of catastrophic accident. He's a fifth round pick. They haven't invested anything in him. They could show him the door tomorrow. He's a quarterback. The standards higher. I heard a lot of this, Colin. It's no big deal. I've had a speeding ticket. 34% of American men have been arrested. I'm going to hold my quarterback to a little higher standard than the general public. 74% of Americans are overweight. Should my pro athlete, I mean, bob down the street is, again, there are standards. I need smarter, I need more dedicated, I need more focus than young guys getting Arrested and people overweight. That's the average citizen. Fine. This is not an average position. Quarterbacks don't get sick days. You wake up with a sinus infection, you're out. They do. Grab your helmet, let's go, let's go. Get in the huddle. Hurry up. Two speeding tickets, fifth round quarterback is dumb. You know, speeding ticket becomes not knowing the formation on Sunday. Like, it's just not that difficult. Quarterbacks are supposed to put out fires, not start them. So Andrew Barry is speaking the truth out loud. This I. Whenever I hear this, well, I've done this or I've done that. That's not the standard I'm shooting for. Quarterback, NFL franchise. There's 32 starting jobs in the country. Like, that's it. I mean, teams give you about a year and a half and then move off you. You have to make impressions. So I just appreciate a general manager going to a podium and not pandering. Just call it out. Not good enough. J. Mac with the news. No, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herd line news.
- [26:31]
Sarah Spain
All right, Colin. Jets fans, myself included, breathing a sigh of relief today as Justin Fields is back running. Now he's just jogging here. You can see him with his helmet. This after getting stepped on and getting. Suffering a fractured non big toe injury. Now he is not doing all of the quarterback drills. Did look like he was moving fine there to sign autographs.
- [26:57]
Colin Cowherd
He's fine. I don't.
- [26:59]
Sarah Spain
Listen, it's July. I don't want to see him in action. If the jets have any hope of being competitive and a decent watch, you need Fields under center. Like there's.
- [27:08]
Colin Cowherd
What does their schedule look like? Let's be fair because if you take with Aaron Rodgers, if you extrapolate Justin Fields numbers, last year in Pittsburgh, he only got six starts. He had a pretty good year.
- [27:19]
Sarah Spain
I don't, I don't know.
- [27:21]
Colin Cowherd
I look at this schedule and I think if you look at the jets personnel, there's a lot of winnable games early. It's not a tough schedule. Certainly not a tough schedule in the middle with Atlanta, Miami, Jacksonville, the Saints in New England near the end, you got Cleveland, New England to buy and Carolina. This is a very workable schedule. If. All I'm saying is I like a lot of their players and I like Justin Fields. I don't know if he's a franchise guy, but there'll be no excuses. This is a schedule you can win 10 games. Oh, no question.
- [27:52]
Dr. Leitra Tate
What are you.
- [27:52]
Sarah Spain
What, How. How are you fighting to find me? 10 wins on this schedule, Pittsburgh, that's not a lock. The Steelers have a higher win total than the Jets.
- [28:01]
Colin Cowherd
You get the Steelers at home, I get the Cowboys at home, I get Carolina at home, I get Cleveland at home, I get. I mean these are not formed. They'll be favored in those games.
- [28:15]
Sarah Spain
Potentially they'll be favored in probably five games. Saints, Panthers, they'll be favored in some of those games, but. Right. I don't. Are they going to get swept by the Patriots? Probably. Are they that much better? They struggle with the Patriots last year. Okay. I think the Dolphins are going to be a challenge for them in week. In week four. I don't know, man. If you ask me, Jason, how many wins for the jets this year? I'll go six and 11. Is that reasonable? Are you saying eight?
- [28:44]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah. No, I think there are six, seven win team. I think there's a big chunk of the league, a big chunk of the league that feels like a six or seven win team and I think the jets are in that space. Now.
- [28:55]
Sarah Spain
You. If Garrett Wilson happens to go down or something, you could downshift that by two wins because they're skill. Who. You want to guess who the jets number two receiver is right now? Josh Reynolds, who was in Detroit a few years ago that claimed out more of.
- [29:12]
Colin Cowherd
More of a four. Yeah, yeah.
- [29:13]
Sarah Spain
More of. So that's their number two. They had Devonte Adams last year. There's just not a lot of wiggle room on the outside transition year for my Jets. Let's go to a college football. And your guy, Bill Belichick. Very quiet on the Bill Belichick front lately, Colin. But the six time super bowl champion head coach is planning to build UNC's college program just like an NFL team. Here he is at ACC media day.
- [29:39]
Colin Cowherd
Pro program, practice training, food schemes, terminology. It's all pro program. Not to the extent that we did it in the NFL. There'll be fewer plays, fewer adjustments, but it will be along those lines. And you know, we use what we need. There's some things that we, I don't think we're going to need at this level. And there's other things that we are. Things like that you just have to, you know, take into consideration. But fundamentally we're going to do as much as we can at a pro system. I, I thought he was actually pretty good at media day. I thought he lightened up. I think, you know, it's funny when you watch that and a lot of people didn't like the last documentary on him. They thought Bob Kraft leaked A lot of stuff to make Belichick look bad. But if you go back to Belichick's first three or four years in New England and maybe it was Spygate, Deflategate, all the gates, he was actually pretty funny with the media and I think he's been better with the media on the college campus. I'm really fascinated by this story because we said yesterday, take Clemson out. Everybody on that schedule is in a rebuild or is a five to six win program. Syracuse was good last year, but they lost that quarterback I liked and they lost 15 starters. That schedule is screaming nine, 10 wins. So I can't wait to watch this thing.
- [30:57]
Sarah Spain
Well, okay, so I was doing some research on UNC before this segment and again, what we talked about at the very outset of the show, quarterback coach, symmetry. Belichick thrived with Bledsoe. Then Brady. How did it go with Cam Newton when he was under center for Bill Belichick?
- [31:16]
Colin Cowherd
I would say this, the NFL is not college. The NFL is much more quarterback centric in college. If I have great, I mean George has had great players, is, Georgia had great, Georgia's had one great quarterback in my life, Matt Stafford. They've won a lot of football games with a lot of guys sitting on NFL benches. Alabama's won a lot of national championships. Usc. Tell me all the great USC NFL quarterbacks. Name six, Name four. So Carson Palmer was obviously really gifted. So the college football is about, to me is about the coach and the roster. NFL is about the coach and the quarterback. And so I think Bill, his ability, you know, Carolina's got some money here, so their quarterback is average, which I think would really hurt them in the Big Ten of the sec. But I think an average quarterback, Bill's recruiting, they can win every game except Clemson. They're not ready to beat Clemson. And Clemson's got the best quarterback by a mile in that conference.
- [32:12]
Sarah Spain
Okay, so that's why I brought up quarterback. I, I looked into Giovani Lopez. He's going to be the starter. He was a three star guy in 2022. Colin, he committed to South Alabama.
- [32:25]
Colin Cowherd
Okay.
- [32:26]
Sarah Spain
That was the level he was at three years ago. Now I, I, I haven't seen him, I, I haven't seen the practice footage. But little, little bit of uphill climb for Belichick rolling with Giovanni Lopez when he's got to face Cade Klubnick of Clemson, who's a high school contender and you seem to think his first round potential.
- [32:44]
Colin Cowherd
You know, when Dion went to Colorado, he had his son quarterbacking. So that was an advantage. Belichick doesn't so. But, but I think Belichick has a better overall roster in year one at Carolina than. Than Deion Sanders had at Colorado. I just think, you know, Travis Hunter and, and Shadow or Sanders, it's nice to bring your son along as quarterback. So I think Bill staff is better than Deon's was. I think Bill's roster is better than Dion was year one. But Shador Sanders is better than who they have, you know, taken the.
- [33:14]
Sarah Spain
I'll remind people. I think UNC's in playoff contention all year. I'm just betting on Belichick. That's it. Final story. Colin, not great. Okay. Caitlyn Clark, she's been out of action. People are probably wondering, hey, you guys have really talked less about the WNBA lately. Yeah, cuz Caitlin Clark's hurt. She didn't play last night. They won. But what's more interesting is Clark spoke a little bit about injuries. Being a pro athlete, how's this for a quote, Colin? This is the first time I haven't felt like a young body that can run around and sprint every day and just continue to do that. Being a pro athlete, you really have to take care of both your body and mind. It's been a journey learning about that now. That makes it sound like she's just worn down. Like this is the first time. I can't just run around and be a young person. Well, you're still young, Caitlyn. You're like 24 years old.
- [34:07]
Colin Cowherd
So let's be. You know, it's funny, anytime I talk about the WNBA, I get pushback. And I swear to God, 90% of what I say is positive. And I'll just say this. It's taken the wnba, you know, a couple years to figure out how popular she is. They have one more big move to make as a league. They've got to get better officiating. They guards in the WNBA get attacked. I mean, go look at the number of total players and the number of injured players in the wnba. It's unbelievable. And the NBA, which has better officials, you'll notice this. They, they are more willing to call a quick whistle in the regular season to keep their players healthy for the postseason. They want their stars available for the postseason, then in the postseason, let them play. That makes for good basketball, but they kind of protect their players. Regular season. The WNBA officiates like the NBA does in the postseason. People get knocked to the floor. And I think this is a learning curve. You want your best players healthy for the playoffs. Then you can take the whistle out, have physicality, have some tussles, have some real animosity that makes for very good tv. But over the course of a long regular season, you don't want your players getting beat up. I mean, even in baseball, you manage differently in a playoff series than a regular season in June. So I think the league has got to get better officiating and blow the whistle in the regular season. Protect Angel Reese last night did not play the number of injured WNB again, it's all a learning curve. This league is paying their refs less than college, according to the Washington Post, less than college basketball refs make. That can't be the case.
- [35:56]
Sarah Spain
Colin, I'm sure you know that Caitlin Clark's fever are coming out here to play the Sparks early next month. Within the next, like, 15 days, two weeks. My family, we've inquired about tickets, and now we're holding off to see if Caitlin Clark's gonna be there. I'm not gonna lie. And listen, I know the Sparks are good. They're an attraction. We're interested in the Sparks. But my. My daughter wants to see Caitlin Clark.
- [36:18]
Colin Cowherd
Sure.
- [36:18]
Sarah Spain
You know, so, like, we're not gonna get tickets yet until we find out of Clark's plane. And I'll just say this. In the NFL, they protect the quarterback. And I know fans hate it when you breathe on Mahomes a burrow. Fans hate it, but that is smart. I hate it when it happens, but it is smart. You got it. Like you said, you got to start protecting the moneymakers.
- [36:39]
Colin Cowherd
Yeah, no, no, I remember it was about 10. I was at the other place. It was probably 12 years ago when the NFL came out and got very protective of quarterbacks, and everybody whined and complained about it. And I said, go look at the old Terry Bradshaw films and the old Joe Mona Joe Montana films when these guys were getting grabbed and driven into the turf, it's like, that's not what you want. The bottom line is rules are an insurance policy, and the. And the players are mansions and sports cars. Protect them, get insurance. You want your best players available for longer stretches, especially in playoff basketball. NBA's figured it out. Give Adam Silver credit. They'll blow a quick whistle in the regular season, but we go to the postseason, then I'll deal with animosity, Then I'll deal with the physicality because it's a much shorter, more intense season. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by the herd line. Like I said yesterday on this show. It is time. I'm going to take a little pivot because I think this is Aaron Rodgers last season. I don't want to be negative guys and he threw an interception yesterday and everybody got worked up and I'm going to defend him. And Nick Saban made a veiled reference toward our show as well. That's coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9am.
- [38:00]
Unknown
Pacific Time for a sofa upgrade, visit washablesofas.com and discover Annabe where designer style meets budget friendly prices. With sofas starting at $699, Annabe brings you the ultimate in furniture innovation with a modular design that allows you to rearrange your space effortlessly. Perfect for both small and large spaces, Anibe is the only machine washable sofa inside and out. Say goodbye to stains and messes with liquid and stain resistant fabrics that make cleaning easy. Liquid simply slides right off. Designed for custom comfort, our high resilience foam lets lets you choose between a sink in feel or a supportive memory foam blend. Plus our pet friendly stain resistant fabrics ensure your sofa stays beautiful for years. Don't compromise quality for price. Visit washablesofas.com to upgrade your living space today with no risk returns and a 30 day money back guarantee. Get up to 60% off plus free shipping and free returns. Shop now at washablesofas.com Offers are subject to change and certainly restrictions may apply.
- [39:01]
Colin Cowherd
Who cares about truth when the lies.
- [39:02]
Angela Rai
More entertaining Hey everybody, I'm Angela Rai, co host of Native Lampa with Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillum through the lens of politics and culture. We talk with you every week to make sense of this madness. I've been telling Angela I don't even know how to fight back right now. So what I'm focused on is just looking out for ourselves.
- [39:22]
Colin Cowherd
That's the truth. We're having the same debates that American households are having all over the country.
- [39:26]
Angela Rai
Rest is certainly a form of self care, but if you are watching your full neighbors starve, not be able to pay bills, your rest is selfish. But the thing is Angela, this is not the mess we created. So I do understand black folks feeling like you know what, y' all got it.
- [39:43]
Sarah Spain
We're like family, but we disagree all the time and we love when our listeners chime in what would happen if.
- [39:49]
Angela Rai
We built our own little Wakandan communities in the rural South?
- [39:54]
Colin Cowherd
Tiffany, do not run to no rural South. I don't know what you're on.
- [39:58]
Angela Rai
What our audience is asking is okay fine, you want me to stop resting. What specifically are you asking me to do? Stay informed and take action.
- [40:08]
Colin Cowherd
Listen to Nativeland Pod on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome. Welcome home, y'. All.
- [40:17]
Angela Rai
Welcome to Pretty Private with ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm ebony and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challeng your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all. Childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles and more. And found the strength to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant, but he wasn't shot on a street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal. He was shot in his house, unarmed. Pretty Private isn't just a podcast. It's your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite show.
- [41:22]
Dr. Leitra Tate
Both Sometimes it's hard to remember, but.
- [41:25]
Colin Cowherd
Going through something like that is a.
- [41:27]
Sarah Spain
Traumatic experience, but it's also not the.
- [41:30]
Colin Cowherd
End of your life.
- [41:31]
Dr. Leitra Tate
That was my dad reminding me and so many others who need to hear it that our trauma is not our shame to carry and that we have big, bold and beautiful lives to live after what happened to us. I'm your host and co president of this organization, Dr. Leitra Tate. On my new podcast, the Unwanted Sorority, we wade through transformation to peel back healing and reveal what it actually looks like and sounds like in real time. Each week I sit down with people who've lived through harm, carried silence, and are now reshaping the systems that failed us. We're going to talk about the adultification of black girls mothering as resistance and the tools we use for healing. The Unwanted Sorority is a safe space, not a quiet space. So let's lock in. We're moving towards liberation together. Listen to the Unwanted Sorority. New episodes every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [42:27]
Colin Cowherd
So I'm reading an article this morning and the headline to the article, which I disagree with, is Aaron Rodgers has a lot more to lose with the Steelers than he did with the Jets. And I. I thought a lot about this and I think my opinion that's going to stick is that did the Wizards hurt Michael Jordan's legacy? Did Phoenix, Cleveland Celtics hurt Shaqs? It's not about the ending. Marlon Brando is considered the greatest actor of all time. YouTube him sometime. Fascinating interview. He had three or four atrocious movies. Nobody cares. We judge you in your prime. We judge you at the pinnacle. Not the turbulence and the bumpy ending. Not every Beatles song was great. And we don't talk about the ones that missed. We've never spent a second talking about Tom Cruise in the Mummy. We don't do that. Aaron's prime was 13 years, four MVPs and a super bowl trophy. And he played great. It puts him top 12 all time. Certainly one of the prettiest passers I've ever seen. Up there with Dan Marino, maybe number one or number two. He's a little prickly and independent as a personality. That's okay. Everybody's different. He is one of the most gifted throwers of the football of all time. And he is in a top 12 of all time. I actually prefer him over Brett Favre. Brett Favre is a gunslinger. I don't think he ages well over time. Gunslingers don't work anymore. They become Jameis Winston and he's better than Jameis Winston. But, but Aaron could have played 30 years ago. And Aaron in his prime was great. Now Farve was really good. Being hard to coach, not necessarily reading coverages and just using his talent, I don't think that ages as well today. I think football is much smarter today than it was years ago. So I think much like being in the mob, once you're great, you're a made man now like the mob, it doesn't always end well. But I, I think we have to be fair with Aaron Rodgers. If he goes 7 and 9 in Pittsburgh, he gets hurt in Week 13 or doesn't play particularly well, nobody cares. Go look at Johnny Unitis last team. Go look at Michael Jordan and the Wizards, Akeem, Patrick Ewing, Shaq, it doesn't matter now. Brady, you know, and this is rare, left and was great in Tampa. That sort of adds to Brady's legend. But the truth, was it really Only if you really look at what Tampa did for Brady. It separated him in the was it Brady or Belichick in New England argument. Clearly it was more Brady than Belichick. He won the divorce, he won the argument, but he still would have been the all time greatest quarterback because all of his hardware. So I don't, I mean, Aaron had an interception yesterday. I don't make anything of that and I'm not going to make a lot out of 6 and 11 or 7 and 10. Here's Aaron. Gotta get it out the way. I mean, anybody's watched me practice over the years. You know, you like to try certain throws at certain times. And anybody that's watched me in the games knows them. I've been pretty stellar taking care of the football over the years. It's gonna be a good challenge for me throwing this heat every single day. I look forward to it. But I'm gonna throw some picks. I'm gonna throw some touchdowns, too. Yeah, I just, I don't think if you look at actors, politicians, or like Bernie Sanders in his prime. In Bernie Sanders today, you know, you get to be 75 as a politician. I don't know how judgmental I can get. The same with quarterbacks. Once you get into your 40s, I'm not holding it against you. I mean, I, I, that doesn't mean Matt Stafford wins a Super bowl this year. It can't elevate his legacy. It doesn't mean if Brady's good in Tampa, it can't mean he really definitively won the divorce with Belichick. Yes, there can be more upside, but, but I, I, I, I. It's Marlon Brando, it's the Beatles, it's Tom Cruise in their prime. Best. So, you know, there's been a story this week, J. Mac, and it is very much a Connect the Dot story. Jimmy Sexton, Nick Saban, Jimmy Haslam. And I have said I think Saban will not go to college. But when Greg McElroy and Lane Kiffin, who know him very, very, very well, said there's a lot of talk about him coming back to coaching. I don't think it's college. I discussed it this week. Colleges. Now, the NIL is so expensive, you have to go to your boosters to get 15 to 18 million dollars to pay the players. You're not going to buy out your coach at another 70 million and then pay 75 million to get Saban. Like, it's just the NIL actually helps coaches get two or three more years. You're raising so much money to pay the players. You're not buying out staffs at $70 million, too, and then paying 70 million for the next coach, he's not going to college. Would he take a call and consider the NFL? That's all I've said. Yes. And Saban was on Fox News and could have given an absolutely definitive answer. Instead, he said this. There is no opportunity that I know of right now that I would enhance me to go back to coaching right now. I mean, I'm not hungry right now. I'm not tired right now, but I'm going to eat and sleep later. Right. Yes and no are definitive answers. Absolutely or never are definitive answers. The specificity with that answer was intentional. It was. I mean, if you kind of. Right now. You ever getting divorced. I mean, right now I'm happy with my current wife, you know, that's not the answer you want to hear. It's never. I'm wildly in love right now. It's leaving the door open. And by the way, I can bring up an old Nick Saban press conference from Miami. I could do that. So why don't we do that? Here it is. Well, then I guess I have to say it. I'm not going to be the Alabama coach. I shouldn't even have to comment on this. I think I've said this over and over and over again. There's also not one opening now. Arch Manning, still a college player now. So I'm just saying I thought it was very intentional. There's not a place I'm going to leave for right now. And I don't even think this is an argument like that. That's very open, that's very gray. And he may not take the job. I'm not saying definitively he's going to. I'm saying if Cleveland ends up with the number one pick, if the Saints end up with the number one pick and take Arch Manning, he's coached in Louisiana, he's coached in Ohio. He's taking the call. He may go to Ms. Terry, discuss it for a couple of days. But I. I know what he kind of makes at ESPN. He's gonna make about 30% more or more than that coaching college pro football. He'll take the call. I don't think he's going to college. So, I mean, yes, no, absolutely never. Those are definitive. I'm not tired right now. Means you will probably eventually sleep. Right. Like we all. This isn't. This isn't a reach by me. I thought that was a very intentional answer. And that's okay. You know, I mean, broadcasters have a right to leave anytime they want. Much easier to leave broadcasting jobs. Bill Parcells did that multiple times. Nobody's going to hold it against you. I think Dick Vermeil may have or may have not let. Nobody's holding it against you. You know, you leave a college, you leave a job. But I'm just saying. And there's going to be Jobs, not just random jobs open. Arch Manning going to a place Nick has coached. The Dallas Cowboys could be open. There are years. Last year there was one great job opening and Harbaugh took it. Justin Herbert, L.A. market, decent roster. That was a great job opening. Matt LaFleur to Green Bay, that was a. That's one of the best job openings ever. Aaron Rodgers, well run organization, by the way. When McCarthy took the Cowboys, Dak Prescott closer to his prime, that wasn't a bad job opening. A lot of them are rebuilds. He's not going to a total rebuild. But if he's going to be watching all these college quarterbacks, okay, you tell me, watch that Clemson kid or he watches Arch Manning or he watches Drew allergies. And all of a sudden the Saints or Cleveland can get those guys. He's absolutely taken the call and he's absolutely considering it.
- [51:28]
Sarah Spain
Yeah, Colin, this lines up perfectly with what you like to say. When you get new information, sometimes you change your mind. Right. On athletes, on coaches and openings, I think is the same thing. Nick Saban says he's happy where he's doing right now. And then if you know, Arch Manning lines up to the jets or the Browns or whatever happens, sure, I'm sure he's going to take the call. Now. The real interesting one is what goes on in Dallas. Is that someone Jerry Jones would want to hire. Do you want Saban? Do you want Deion Sanders, who. I personally think Colorado takes a big step back this year. I'm sure Joel Platt knows more. Go ahead.
- [52:07]
Colin Cowherd
So it's interesting Belichick had no interest going west. If you looked at who he interviewed for jobs, it was mostly, you know, he's got a place in like, Jupiter, Florida, Nantucket. Bill didn't want to be out west. Tom Brady, frankly, had told people, you know, he went to Tampa. He considered Miami. Tom didn't really want to go west at the time, which is the kids. Right. He didn't want to go west. So my take is Texas for Saban. I mean, he and his wife, Ms. Terry, they called her, they flew to Austin, Texas, or she did when, Remember, he lost to Auburn. And there was a lot of heat on Saban. And it was like, you guys have Saban. Everybody loses in big rivalries. Michigan 20 point dog just beat Ohio State. Slow down. But it kind of ticked Saban off. He ended up getting a great deal from Alabama to go back. He got somebody to pay off his house. He got a car dealership. He was so ticked off by that. But Texas Saints feel Like, you know, he's got his lake house. I could see that very much with him. Quick private jet from Dallas to his lake house in Georgia. Oh, or New Orleans. That just feels like those fit. He's taken. He's. First of all, he's getting a call. Takes it. I don't know. Okay. Have you heard about this? Last year, Degree changed the formula for their Cool Rush deodorant and their fans rebelled and wanted the old scent back. And Degree Listens. That doesn't happen often. They admitted they effed up and they're bringing back the original Cool Rush scent. They're bringing it back and it's exactly how you remember it. Cool, crisp and fresh. There's a reason it's the number one men's antiperspirant. And it's back in Walmart, Target and other stores now for under four bucks. So try and see what the fuss is about. Head to your local Walmart or Target to try the OG degree cool rush for yourself.
- [53:52]
Sarah Spain
Join iHeartRadio and Sarah Spain in celebrating the one year anniversary of iHeart Women's.
- [53:58]
Angela Rai
Sports with powerful interviews and insider analysis.
- [54:01]
Sarah Spain
Our shows have connected fans with the.
- [54:03]
Angela Rai
Heart of women's Sports.
- [54:04]
Sarah Spain
In just one year, the network has launched 15 shows and built a community united by passion podcasts that amplify the voices of women in sports. Thank you for supporting I Heart Women's.
- [54:14]
Colin Cowherd
Sports and our founding sponsors, Elf Beauty.
- [54:17]
Angela Rai
Capital One and Novartis.
- [54:18]
Sarah Spain
Just open the free iHeart app and search iHeart Women's Sports to listen now.
- [54:23]
Danielle Robay
In 2020, a group of young women found themselves in an AI fueled nightmare.
- [54:29]
Colin Cowherd
Someone was posting photos. It was just me naked. Well, not me, but me with someone else's body parts.
- [54:36]
Danielle Robay
This is Levittown, a new podcast from iHeart podcasts Bloomberg and Kaleidoscope about the rise of deepfake pornography and the battle to stop it. Listen to Levittown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Just like great shoes, great books take you places through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters. And you'll never forget, I think any good romance.
- [55:03]
Angela Rai
It gives me this feeling of like butterflies.
- [55:06]
Danielle Robay
I'm Danielle Robay and this is bookmarked by Reese's Book Club. The new podcast from hello Sunshine and I Heart podcast where we dive into the stories that shape us on the page and off. Each week I'm joined by authors, celebs, book talk stars and more for conversations that will make you laugh, cry, and add way too many books to your TBR pile. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [55:34]
Angela Rai
This is an iHeart podcast.